Sterling Elza

[00:00:14] Welcome to another episode of Whiskey Riff Raff. We're here with Red Dirt artist and songwriter

[00:00:19] Sterling Elza. And I met you a couple years ago at a festival.

[00:00:22] Yeah, in Idaho.

[00:00:23] Yes, in Idaho. And I remember like you were with your friend and I was working the Whiskey

[00:00:28] Riff tent and your friend came by and was like, oh yeah, he's an artist. And I was like,

[00:00:31] oh cool. And then I just kept saying your name pop up after that. So it's been a wild couple years

[00:00:36] for you.

[00:00:37] No, I met so many people at that festival that I still talk to like weekly.

[00:00:42] Really?

[00:00:42] Yeah, that was, I had so much fun up there. And I haven't been back since, but I need to

[00:00:47] get back up there.

[00:00:48] And we were just talking about that you're from Texas. So, you know, you're probably spending

[00:00:52] a lot of time in Nashville and probably all over the country a lot right now. How do you

[00:00:56] think being from Texas really influences you and your career and your spot in the industry?

[00:01:01] It's different for sure, because you come here and you get into a room to write with people

[00:01:06] and, you know, they're a little more weary about what kind of song is going to get written

[00:01:11] that day or whatever. But no, and Texas, you know, hates on Nashville a lot. And I don't

[00:01:18] personally. I've met so many people up here and written so many songs up here and there's

[00:01:23] just so much good that can come out of this town if you get with the right group. Now,

[00:01:27] granted, there's going to be people, you know, that'll write a pop country song, but it's

[00:01:31] still fun. You know, I enjoy being up here. There's a lot of stuff to do.

[00:01:34] And we know that, you know, you started music at a very young age.

[00:01:37] Yeah. From what I understand, five years old.

[00:01:40] Yeah. So do you have like, what's the earliest memory that you have associated with like getting

[00:01:45] into music?

[00:01:45] My first memory, I actually was at a Motley Crue concert.

[00:01:50] Okay.

[00:01:50] That's like my first memory. This, for some reason, this old lady was in the men's bathroom

[00:01:56] in Oklahoma City at this Motley Crue concert. She like picked me up and put me on her shoulders

[00:02:00] and was carrying me around the concourse saying, this kid's the future. Cause I was like eight at a

[00:02:05] Motley Crue concert, but that's kind of my first music related one. But other than that,

[00:02:10] yeah, I started playing guitar when I was young, but I would never practice ever. I would just go

[00:02:14] to my one 30 minute lesson a week and forget about it for the rest. But yeah, I picked it back up and

[00:02:20] really kind of started giving a shit like my freshman year of high school.

[00:02:24] And is it true that you come from a family that loves music as well or has music in their blood?

[00:02:30] Yeah. My mom grew up like singing in the choir and playing guitar and stuff. Um, but my dad,

[00:02:36] I think knows more about music than anybody I've ever met in my entire life. And yeah,

[00:02:41] they just kind of took me to concerts growing up and just, I was always around it. So

[00:02:45] what a Motley Crue, you said you were eight?

[00:02:49] Yeah. At the oldest, I think I was eight probably.

[00:02:52] So, I mean, what other concerts were you getting, getting taken to? I almost said drag

[00:02:55] to, but that wouldn't be, that wouldn't be the right way.

[00:02:56] Yeah. No, I loved it. Um, we've seen Guns N' Roses more times than I can count. Foo Fighters,

[00:03:03] just kind of that whole era is what my dad loves. So that's what I grew up on and was,

[00:03:08] you know, going to those shows and stuff a lot when I was young. But you're like,

[00:03:11] I saw Garth Brooks in Tulsa and can hardly remember it because I was so young, but no,

[00:03:16] we were just always going to shows, Vegas, wherever else, just always around it.

[00:03:22] Do you, uh, do you know if there was a specific moment or if there was just something that really

[00:03:27] inspired you to pursue a career rather than just love music?

[00:03:30] Yeah, actually. So I was living in Florida playing tennis and, um, I was on my way back

[00:03:36] to my dorm one day and, uh, I heard, I had it on like a Tyler Childers radio. And for some reason,

[00:03:42] February 28th by Coe popped up and I was like, Oh shit, I've never heard anything like that.

[00:03:47] That is what I want to do. And then, yeah, I kind of just started hating tennis and then COVID came

[00:03:54] and gave me a reason to move back home. And I started taking guitar lessons from, uh, Parker

[00:03:59] McCollum's brother, Tyler. And, uh, yeah, just kind of got into it and I was like, I might as well give

[00:04:04] it a shot. And here we are. So you, you played tennis at the IMG Academy, right? So that means

[00:04:11] that you're pretty good at tennis, right? I guess I was all right. Okay. What made you hate it then?

[00:04:15] Yeah. I just played for so long. I think like when I quit, I was like 15 years deep and just

[00:04:22] over it. At some point it probably starts to feel like a job, right? It does for sure. And I've

[00:04:27] really tried to remember that and not like try my best to make sure music never turns into that

[00:04:34] for me. And so far it hasn't, you know, we're having so much more fun than you could ever have

[00:04:38] on a tennis court. Besides like that life lesson that you're taking away from it, any, uh, connection

[00:04:44] with like playing competitive tennis versus now you're being at, you're competitive in the music

[00:04:49] industry, right? So did you, you have any like learning lessons as far as like, well, I'm glad

[00:04:54] that I played tennis. Cause now I'm better equipped to handle this. Yeah. One thing about tennis is it's

[00:04:59] just you just by yourself. So, you know, doing music, you're by yourself driving or, you know,

[00:05:06] up on stage playing, whether you're with your band or by yourself. So yeah, I'm sure there's some

[00:05:12] sort of connection there that's helped me out a lot. I haven't, you know, put it together yet,

[00:05:16] but. And this is your first album that you just put out, uh, Simpler Days. Um, what was it like

[00:05:21] recording your first album? It was cool. And we did it pretty untraditional. We just did it in,

[00:05:28] um, my guitar players, like spare bedroom at his house. And, uh, you know, we came up here and,

[00:05:34] uh, memories I think was the only song on the record that we did like in a studio. And we did that,

[00:05:39] um, with the guy named Jordan Terrell here, but, uh, yeah, it was awesome. You know, I just felt like

[00:05:45] we got to do exactly what we wanted to do. And the song sounded exactly how we wanted them to. We

[00:05:49] didn't, you know, have anybody crossing us on that. So I don't know. I'm glad people like it. Cause

[00:05:54] we're just kind of messing around and. And how old are you? I'm 20. 20. Okay. So who do you have

[00:06:00] in like your close circle that you look co to for career advice? So I think kind of my best,

[00:06:08] my best advice guy right now is Zach Foster. Uh, he used to play for Pecos on the rooftops and he's

[00:06:13] in my camp now, but, uh, you know, he's just been on the road for so long. He's played the arenas and

[00:06:18] he's played the small bars. So he's seen everything. So there's, he's always got something

[00:06:23] to say and he's helped me out a lot, but all the guys in the band, you know, I've been on the road

[00:06:28] for years and a lot longer than I have. So they all, we can all kind of come together and,

[00:06:34] you know, figure things out. Yeah. I feel like it's easy to like,

[00:06:36] just want to say like your parents, but it's probably a completely new world to them too.

[00:06:40] So it's like, you need someone who's in the industry who actually understands it a little

[00:06:44] different. You know, they can, they can give me a little advice, but more than anything,

[00:06:47] they just think it's cool. And with simpler days, uh, there's a song on there with

[00:06:52] tree oak revival called throwaway. Yeah. Uh, how did that come to be? Did,

[00:06:57] is that something where you approach them to ask them to be featured?

[00:07:00] Yeah. So the week that I recorded the acoustic version of throwaway, which was the first song I put

[00:07:06] out was when I figured out who tree yoke was. So I don't even remember when it was,

[00:07:10] but like probably a year and a half later, um, we were just kind of messing around and I had met

[00:07:15] the tree yoke guys like a month or two before that in, uh, actually in new Braunfels where I live now.

[00:07:20] And, um, I just, I texted Sam one day and I was, I don't even remember how I got his number,

[00:07:25] but I did somehow. And I texted him and I was like, Hey man, um, would love to get you on this song.

[00:07:31] Let me know what you think. Like we're obviously going to redo the whole thing. And, uh, he said,

[00:07:36] yes, like immediately. And I was like, Holy shit. Well, all right, here we go. And, uh, yeah,

[00:07:41] I did a first version of it and we, uh, we had some issues on the production side and I ended up

[00:07:47] having to redo it, but everybody was so busy. I couldn't get Sam back into the studio. So I had to

[00:07:52] take his original vocal and throw it onto the second song and just it, luckily it worked, but

[00:07:57] yeah, no, he wouldn't even let me give me, give him gas money for it. It's such a good dude. I love

[00:08:03] that guy. And that must be cool. That, that probably gives you the sense of you're doing

[00:08:06] something that right. If you ask Trudy Oak, uh, sorry, Trudy Oak revival, um, to be on a song

[00:08:13] and they're like, yeah, no problem at all. We can, we can do that. Right. That gives you like,

[00:08:17] okay, I must be, I must be doing something. So no, it definitely gave me a lot of confidence.

[00:08:21] And I definitely think that song helped us skip a lot of steps too. You know, it kind of

[00:08:26] not put us front and center, but it put us front and center and gave us a chance to,

[00:08:30] you know, really get our feet under us. And yeah, I think the timing of it was perfect because they

[00:08:34] were blowing up last year or yeah, I guess it was last year slash the beginning of this year.

[00:08:39] And yeah, they would just want, everyone wanted new music and it just came at the perfect time.

[00:08:43] Yeah. That, and it's weird. That song had its big moment like three months ago.

[00:08:48] Okay. And I, I think one of my buddies posted a Tik TOK and it got like 600,000 views and people

[00:08:54] just kind of ran with it there. And, um, but yeah, it was funny. It's big moment was like a

[00:08:59] year and a half after we dropped it. So it's weird how social media works out. And, um, you know,

[00:09:06] you, Treaty Oak, you mentioned Coe, even Parker. Parker's a little, I want to say is a little

[00:09:10] different, but how would you classify your genre of music? You guys are all kind of similar.

[00:09:15] I don't even know. People ask me that all the time and it's just the easiest thing to say is

[00:09:20] country rock, but really the only thing that keeps us any sort of country or Texas is that I wear boots

[00:09:27] and jeans and playing acoustic guitar. But, uh, no, I mean, a lot of my songwriting influence comes

[00:09:32] from, you know, like the old Texas guys, Josh Abbott, Randy Rogers, that, that era guys. And, um,

[00:09:38] no, I really don't know how to answer that question. I never do.

[00:09:41] Well, we know that your, uh, album peaked in the, on the rock charts and you're talking to Motley

[00:09:47] Crew and these other rock, rock giants. Right. So you probably don't mind that, you know,

[00:09:51] you can be classified as rock and, but you can also be fit underneath the category of country too.

[00:09:56] Exactly. Yeah. And I think one of the main reasons we've even kept ourselves in the country

[00:10:02] conversation at all is so we can play the Texas bars, you know, they're not booking rock groups,

[00:10:07] but they'll book a red dirt guy. So whatever they need to call us, let us play and be a part of it.

[00:10:13] We're fine with that. And you're talking about, you know, a Tik TOK getting 600,000, uh, views.

[00:10:18] Like when you look at your streaming numbers, obviously those are phenomenal. Or is that

[00:10:22] sometimes hard to fathom? Like you look at that, like there's that many people out there listening

[00:10:26] to this. It is. And it's so new and such a recent thing that it doesn't really make sense

[00:10:31] quite yet, but yeah, just seeing the numbers go up every day and people texting me and they're like,

[00:10:36] Oh, did you see how much it went up today? And it's like, Oh yeah, I'm looking. I check it

[00:10:41] every morning when I wake up. We've got here that you've had more than 25 million streams since

[00:10:45] August. Yeah. Like, do you, do you feel that, uh, connection with fans whenever you go and play

[00:10:50] live like that? It becomes clear, like, wow. Okay. This is, it's clear that people are listening.

[00:10:55] Yeah, for sure. And it's just like every show, more people are there that know the words than there

[00:11:00] were the weekend before. And I don't know, people have, people just care a lot. And that's wild to

[00:11:05] me. You know, they'll come up and say, man, this song helped me get through, you know,

[00:11:09] whatever happened. It's just like, really wrote that my parents' basement, but no, I love that.

[00:11:15] That's, that's the coolest part about it for me. So, and next week, uh, your song has been getting a

[00:11:20] lot of traction, uh, specifically on Tik TOK. Yeah. So obviously you're a younger artist and more

[00:11:26] young artists are using, uh, and utilizing Tik TOK, uh, to kind of grow their brand. Um, what is it like

[00:11:31] for you to see a song kind of get a traction on a social media site, right? Yeah, it's cool. And it's

[00:11:37] cool to see what people come up with and post videos about, but, uh, like, I think my, my biggest

[00:11:43] thing about Tik TOK this whole time is I've never wanted to be seen as like a Tik TOK artist, you

[00:11:49] know, because I just feel like there's so much, I guess, hate that surrounds that. But, um, no, I feel

[00:11:55] like we've, we've tried our best staying away from that, just being on the road and playing shows every

[00:11:59] weekend, but no, it's cool. I love seeing all the videos and you know, it's funny cause people think I

[00:12:04] don't look at them. I do. I'll just get on my phone and scroll through them for hours. I feel like

[00:12:09] luckily the landscape has kind of changed where it's like in 2020. And if you were posting music

[00:12:13] on Tik TOK, you're a Tik TOK artist and now everyone's doing it because you have to now, you have to

[00:12:18] stay relevant. You have to gain traction, but it's like, not this, like there are no more like Tik TOK

[00:12:23] only. Yeah. And everybody that's doing it now is on the road playing shows. So playing a lot of shows

[00:12:29] in Texas, is there a certain venue that you love playing all the time? The blue light, blue light

[00:12:34] in Lubbock, Texas. That is my favorite venue in the world. Um, we just had a William Clark green on.

[00:12:40] I think he called himself a blue light rat, like him and his friends. They were like blue light rats.

[00:12:45] No, that is my favorite venue. And they just redid it, made the stage a whole bunch bigger

[00:12:49] and added a green room in the back. So it's even better now than it was, but no, from,

[00:12:54] I remember I've never been so nervous to play anywhere in my life than I was the first time I

[00:12:59] played the blue light. I opened for Palmer Anthony and, um, yeah, but no, that's my favorite place.

[00:13:05] And we've played a couple others that I love like John T floors, uh, down in San Antonio and blue

[00:13:11] lights, the winner for sure. Um, is there a venue that you've played so far that you absolutely love

[00:13:17] probably outside of Texas, or maybe just like a peak moment that you've had since your career has

[00:13:22] really started? I think the coolest one for me so far was actually at John T floors with Cody West.

[00:13:29] Okay, cool. Cody's one of my favorite artists and I I've ended up getting close to that whole camp.

[00:13:35] And, but yeah, John T floors down the road from my house, one of the coolest venues in Texas,

[00:13:40] they still have a sign outside that says Willie Nelson every Saturday night. So yeah. And the best

[00:13:46] tamales I've ever had. I see it like whenever anyone's posting that's in Texas, like they always post

[00:13:52] like, Oh, I'm playing a show here, but I never really viewed it as like a place I need to go visit.

[00:13:57] Yeah. Cause like there's canes I need to go visit. Like there's certain venues I need to go hit,

[00:14:01] but that wasn't on my list, but I might need to add it now. Yeah, no, that one's cool. They have

[00:14:05] indoor and outdoor. So yeah, it's super cool. Low ceilings inside. They have boots hanging from

[00:14:10] the ceiling. So it's cool. And this might be somewhat of a simple question, but what would you say

[00:14:16] maybe drives you as an artist? Obviously you want to have success, but whenever you pick up a guitar

[00:14:22] whenever you get up on stage, like what's, what's that motivating factor for you that keeps you going?

[00:14:27] Yeah. I mean, I, I just, I love writing songs with my buddies and I love that, you know, music is

[00:14:33] something you can do and hang out with all of your friends all the time and also get stuff done.

[00:14:37] But there's, there's not a more fun thing in the world than playing shows to me. Yeah. I love that

[00:14:44] so much. Yeah. A lot of guys, you'll see them up on stage and they're not smiling and we're smiling

[00:14:49] and, you know, messing with each other and just, just having a good time. But no, I think the shows

[00:14:54] are really what, you know, pushes me to, to keep doing everything. It's just so much fun.

[00:15:00] And I want to give you a chance to talk about hunting a little bit. We were talking to Aaron

[00:15:04] out there and he was saying that you're really into hunting. Is there a certain kind or a certain area

[00:15:09] you like to go visit? I love hunting at my ranch in Oklahoma. Yeah. Um, I've been going out there

[00:15:15] my whole life and it's been in our family for like the last hundred years or something. And, uh, no,

[00:15:21] I love going out there. If I ever, you know, get overwhelmed or start freaking out or whatever,

[00:15:25] I'll just run up there and disappear for a couple of days and hang out with my parents and take a

[00:15:30] couple of buddies or something. But, but yeah, that's kind of, that's kind of my home base. That's

[00:15:35] where, that's where I like to hunt, but I've hunted all over. And do you have any crazy

[00:15:38] stories you can share? Oh, let me think. I feel like I definitely should.

[00:15:44] Let's come back to that one. I'll, I'll keep thanking while I'm sitting here.

[00:15:48] Okay. Well, my last real question is, is that this is possible that this is,

[00:15:51] you know, someone's first introduction to you. They might have not even heard one of your songs

[00:15:55] before. So what song would you send them to and like, what's something that they should know about

[00:16:00] you if this is like their very first introduction to you? Okay. Um, well, my favorite song on the album

[00:16:06] is next week, which I think is everybody else's favorite too. But yeah. And that song's funny.

[00:16:11] We, um, I think I wrote it like four weeks before the album had to be turned in. So it was right at

[00:16:17] the buzzer. I feel like that happens a lot more often than not. Those are always the best ones.

[00:16:21] Those are always the best ones. Um, cause I, I wasn't even planning for it to be on this album. I was

[00:16:27] going to save it either for the deluxe or the next album. And I just ended up throwing it right on at

[00:16:32] the end. The label was like, you have to put that song out. And I was like, you're not going to have

[00:16:36] to fight me on it. But, um, one thing people should know about me. I don't know. I feel like

[00:16:41] I'm not that interesting. That's not true. All right. Well then for now, we'll, uh, switch into

[00:16:47] some rapid fire questions. All right. So who is your favorite artist?

[00:16:51] Mmm. Tough. I'll go Nirvana. Okay. Oh, wow. Okay. That was, I didn't expect it. Well,

[00:16:55] I guess I should have expected that one. Yeah. Fitting. That's on me. Um, what is your favorite food?

[00:17:00] Steak. Any sides? I know sides can be important. Big Mac and cheese guy.

[00:17:04] What about a place that you order your steak from? Like are you a Texas Roadhouse guy?

[00:17:10] I do love Texas Roadhouse, but Outback is my go-to and Outback gets hated on. I like Outback.

[00:17:16] But great steak, great Mac and cheese and anything you could ever want.

[00:17:21] In the same way that you stand up for Outback, I stand up for Chili's. So I love Chili's.

[00:17:25] Chili's is great. I love Chili's. We eat that so much on the road. It's kind of bad.

[00:17:29] Do you prefer studio recordings or live performances?

[00:17:33] Live.

[00:17:34] Live? Is it for what reason?

[00:17:36] I just think kind of, you know, whenever you're in the studio, I feel like it, the emotion can kind

[00:17:42] of get lost and stuff. But, you know, you're standing there looking at however many people,

[00:17:47] I just feel like the energy's there and I'm a big live guy.

[00:17:51] What's your daily driver? The vehicle gets you around town?

[00:17:54] I have a Ford Raptor.

[00:17:56] Ford Raptor.

[00:17:57] Yep.

[00:17:57] Okay.

[00:17:57] Yep. It always has the check engine light on.

[00:18:01] What are you driving when you're on the road? Like on the, like in touring?

[00:18:05] So I traded my Raptor in for a Sprinter van and I dailied that for like eight months and

[00:18:11] I got so sick of it. So now I have my Raptor and my Sprinter.

[00:18:15] Okay.

[00:18:16] So I have both, but yeah, Sprinter on the road.

[00:18:18] What is your favorite sad country song?

[00:18:21] Oh, three wooden crosses.

[00:18:23] Okay. I feel like we don't get that answer nearly as often, but that's a great one.

[00:18:27] Yeah. I love Randy Travis. That's my go. I love George Strait, but Randy Travis is hard

[00:18:33] to beat for me.

[00:18:34] Yeah.

[00:18:34] What's your go-to karaoke song?

[00:18:36] Something to Talk About by Coe Wetzel. I've sang that an embarrassing amount of times.

[00:18:41] Have you opened up for Coe?

[00:18:42] I haven't.

[00:18:43] Okay.

[00:18:43] I haven't.

[00:18:44] Probably.

[00:18:45] Soon though.

[00:18:45] Yeah.

[00:18:45] I'm not allowed to say anything yet, but we've got a fun one coming up.

[00:18:49] Okay.

[00:18:50] What are you doing when you're not playing music or writing music?

[00:18:53] Usually I'm just trying to sleep off all the driving I've done that week. So I spend a lot

[00:18:59] of time just hanging out on the couch, watching movies. But yeah, we drive so much and that'll

[00:19:04] take it right out of you.

[00:19:06] Whenever you're driving podcast music, what are you usually listening to?

[00:19:10] If I'm by myself, I'll go podcast because I feel like I'm on a group call. But no, I

[00:19:16] hate making the guys listen to podcasts.

[00:19:18] Well, that's the only bad part. Throw on a road trip podcast and you're like, everybody shut

[00:19:22] up. Don't say anything.

[00:19:23] Right. Exactly.

[00:19:24] And the van is constantly so loud.

[00:19:26] Though the Whiskey Riff Raff podcast is a great podcast.

[00:19:29] That's right. If you need a road trip podcast, this is the one.

[00:19:32] Exactly. Last one, Sad Country Songs and Blank Make Me Happy.

[00:19:37] Dogs. I feel like that's the only acceptable answer besides beer maybe, but dogs make me

[00:19:44] way happier.

[00:19:45] Alcohol is the common answer, but dogs is a great one.

[00:19:50] Just to circle back, any crazy hunting stories or anything else that people should know about

[00:19:55] you?

[00:19:55] I'm trying to think.

[00:19:56] To buy you some time if you need it.

[00:19:59] Yeah.

[00:19:59] I go duck hunting every year, opening day in Kentucky. That's where I'm from.

[00:20:04] Okay. Nice.

[00:20:04] And I can't tell you how many times we've gotten to the boat ramp and the boat just doesn't

[00:20:10] work.

[00:20:10] And for some reason, we don't ever think to test it out before. It basically just sits

[00:20:15] there all year until that day, opening day.

[00:20:17] Okay. So yeah, I can't tell you how many times we've drifted off into the water at four

[00:20:21] o'clock in the morning and just stuff.

[00:20:24] We've had to call people. We've had to wave people down. People think we're just waving

[00:20:28] at them.

[00:20:28] Y'all need to get some paddles or something.

[00:20:30] A paddle, I think, is on board.

[00:20:32] Yeah. I think my wildest hunting related story is I was in South Africa and we were on our way

[00:20:41] back to the airport and we were so late already because I'm always late everywhere I have to go.

[00:20:46] And I was going through security and I didn't realize that I had some empty shell casings in

[00:20:52] my backpack and they hated that. Yeah. They had me pulled off in another room and I just knew for a

[00:20:59] fact that I was going to end up in a South African prison. And I don't know if you get out of those.

[00:21:03] No five less for sure.

[00:21:05] Yeah, exactly. But no, they ended up letting me through and yeah, I was so mad. But yeah,

[00:21:12] they let me through. I took my shell case and so I was kind of upset.

[00:21:15] Last last thing is you have your deluxe album coming out in January. Is that correct?

[00:21:20] Yep.

[00:21:20] What can we look forward to on that?

[00:21:22] I think we've got either four or five new ones coming. Maybe some features,

[00:21:29] maybe some new features as well. Because I love features that's so underutilized in Texas.

[00:21:35] Which I don't get. I want to make songs with all my buddies and people that I don't even know. So

[00:21:41] yeah, definitely some features. Definitely kind of on the same wavelength as the album though. Still

[00:21:47] upbeat and a little raunchy.

[00:21:50] That's what I was thinking about when you said that you texted Sam from Trudy Oak that

[00:21:55] there's not a lot of collaborations on songs. I can't remember the last time Coe had someone on his

[00:22:01] music. Well, I guess it's not true. He had the Jesse Murphy, but that was like a second version

[00:22:05] of it. It wasn't even like the main, main song. But like, I feel like they don't really collaborate

[00:22:09] all that much when they're all like besties.

[00:22:12] Exactly. Yeah. And yeah, it's hard to sync up schedules and get it done, but it's doable.

[00:22:18] Yeah.

[00:22:18] And I love the idea of that. So I think that's something people can look forward to for kind

[00:22:24] of the rest of my career is songs with all my buddies.

[00:22:27] Awesome. Well, thank you so much for being here. We're looking forward to the deluxe album.

[00:22:32] So yeah, so am I. Best of luck with everything.

[00:22:35] Thank you very much.