Brought to you by our friends at Field & Stream Music Fest, Larry Fleet joins the podcast to talk about songwriting and penning his #1 hit for Morgan Wallen and Eric Church "Man Made A Bar," being a dad, launching his own podcast 'Highway Feet,' being friends with professional golfer John Daly, playing Field & Stream Music Fest next month, his favorite outdoor activities and much more.
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[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, welcome back to another episode of Whiskey Riff Raff.
[00:01:07] [SPEAKER_02]: We are here backstage at the Grand Ole Opry with Mr. Larry Fleet.
[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I have to say that you are one of the most underrated artists to me.
[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Not because you don't have any commercial success but I just feel like your voice
[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_02]: alone should be bigger, it should make you bigger than you are.
[00:01:20] [SPEAKER_02]: But also your songwriting is so creative that like when people talk about underrated
[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_02]: artists I think of you first.
[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Why don't you go shout that from the rooftop?
[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Let everybody know.
[00:01:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I do alright.
[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, sometimes you see people doing things and as an artist or just a
[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_04]: competitive person I'm like dang man, I've done pretty good.
[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Like I never get nominated for anything or you know nothing like that but you know what?
[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I pay my bills and I do alright.
[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_04]: So it's a...
[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_04]: I never cared really about being like the most famous person because I like going to
[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Cracker Barrel and nobody knows who I am.
[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_04]: There's pros and cons too I guess but thanks for saying that.
[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Well yeah, Whiskey Riff is a big fan of yours and so we anytime we can we try
[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_01]: to support you.
[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_01]: We've also caught wind of your own podcast.
[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_01]: So right now you're on our podcast but you have your own podcast Highway Feet with
[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Larry Fleet, that's correct.
[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_01]: What made you do that and what's that experience been like so far having a podcast?
[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Well it kind of started from just sitting around talking to people and then
[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_04]: telling stories about on the road and I'll say man, you know, the craziest
[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_04]: stuff, like the most unbelievable things happen to us and so we tell these
[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_04]: stories and then it's like man, you want to start a podcast and let kind of
[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_04]: everybody else hear these stories.
[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_04]: So you know, it's kind of the same way whenever I started singing and playing
[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_04]: music enough people told me hey, you're pretty good, you ought to give this,
[00:02:58] [SPEAKER_04]: you know, do a chance and I believed it after a while.
[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_04]: So same thing happened with podcasts, enough people said you should do it
[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_04]: but I guess I believed it and I was like well okay so all this stuff and
[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_04]: man, my bass player, Crazy Legs, he's on there with me and he's a
[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_04]: great character in himself and then my buddy Les who we've been friends
[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_04]: forever, he works for me too.
[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_04]: We just have a ton of stories and we started doing that and Highway Feet was
[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_04]: a song that me and Jamie Johnson wrote a long time ago and I just thought
[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_04]: it was a cool thing so put it together and people are actually listening in.
[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_04]: We're seeing the numbers growing pretty good so enough people want to hear
[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_04]: our stupidity and you know, it's working out and we're meeting people
[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_04]: on the road and they're like man, I love that podcast so it's working but it just
[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_04]: kind of came out of people wanting to hear stories and we just thought well,
[00:03:52] [SPEAKER_04]: alright and honestly I thought I could use it as a promotional tool to kind
[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_04]: of say hey, we're going to be playing wherever and so that kind of
[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_04]: you know, all of it put together was the reason why we did it but we're
[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_04]: actually having a lot of fun here.
[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_04]: It's pretty good times.
[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like it's the perfect platform for a country artist or any artist
[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_02]: because you have so many stories on the road.
[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just like if you were my favorite artist, I want to hear everything.
[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Just all the backstage stories and everything and not every artist shares
[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_02]: that much.
[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a cool way to see it.
[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we talked a lot about before everything really took off.
[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_04]: We were in my Dodge pickup truck pulling a U-Haul trailer for a long time
[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_04]: and then went to an RV and for quite a few years we rode around.
[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I drove the RV for thousands and thousands of miles every year.
[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_04]: So we tell our stories on that level which you deal with a lot worse things,
[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_04]: a lot more crap at that level than what we do now.
[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_04]: We still deal with a lot of stuff.
[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_04]: So there's a lot of funny things and crazy things that are happening
[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_04]: there and some of it is just conspiracy theories.
[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_01]: It can be whatever.
[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_01]: We were talking about a little bit before we got started recording.
[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, if you're talking, we might as well mention it,
[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_01]: we were talking about corn, right?
[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Corn conspiracies before we got started initially.
[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's, you know, I just got back from Europe a couple of days ago
[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_04]: and they had, I got one of those double-decker buses.
[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_04]: So they had a TV in my little bedroom and it didn't have like cable on it
[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_04]: like mine does here, but it had like pre-programmed movies in it.
[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Most of them were in different languages and I can't read fast enough
[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_04]: to try to think about what's going on.
[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_04]: But there was one that wasn't in English and I was like,
[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_04]: it was all about the food grade stuff and everything's made from corn
[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_04]: and I was like, I'm really dove in.
[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, conspiracies, like they're trying to kill me.
[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_04]: The corn industry, like it was, I called my wife, I was like,
[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_04]: can you believe what's going on?
[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_04]: And so yeah, it's been a long night.
[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Might pop up on your own podcast.
[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, for sure.
[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we're going down that one for sure.
[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'll be tuning in to listen to that.
[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_02]: One of the episodes that I was also saw on there was John Daley says,
[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm coachable and I went over here and played college golf.
[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_02]: So we have to hear your story about John Daley.
[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't going to mention that.
[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I would go around just promoting this stuff.
[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, yeah, you should.
[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm terrible at golf, but I got to be friends with John Daley
[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_04]: and just throughout the years.
[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_04]: He's always wanting to play.
[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I told him a hundred times, I'm terrible.
[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I'm a terrible golfer, but I got to play with you.
[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_04]: So we were flying back one day and my phone rings and it is John Daley.
[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_04]: He calls me a lot.
[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_04]: And my wife's like, answer it.
[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_04]: It was a FaceTime thing.
[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm on the plane.
[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_04]: You couldn't hear it.
[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_04]: So I'll call you back.
[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_04]: And all I heard was three o'clock Sunday, tomorrow, whatever.
[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, OK.
[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_04]: And then I called him back and said, let's go play golf.
[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_04]: I said, I go out there and I'm hitting it and shaking it over here.
[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_04]: And finally he was like telling me what to do with my hands.
[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_04]: And so got me where I was driving pretty straight.
[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_04]: And then by the end of the day, he said, you know what?
[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_04]: You're coachable.
[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_04]: He said, give me two years and I can make a golfer out of you.
[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Just two years, you know, I can be on tour.
[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, he thought I'd do pretty good, which I think as a compliment.
[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I just went for the first time and it's actually a lot harder than I ever anticipated or expected.
[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I will say I think 18 holes should be illegal.
[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Not only.
[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Not only.
[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't hear about that.
[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Then walk in the course.
[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Golf all day.
[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So have a personal trainer or personal coach and John Daly.
[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_01]: That would be pretty sweet.
[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_04]: So he's got the coolest golf cart to fight this like it's like a model A or some like some old Mercedes.
[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_04]: And he's got like one of those horns on the outside.
[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, oh yeah.
[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, and he's he's a character man.
[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if you hung out with him less, but I love it.
[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_04]: He's a good dude, good heart and can drive the ball.
[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Like people were lining up on the golf course just to watch him hit the ball.
[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_04]: It's pretty cool.
[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_04]: So that's well.
[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we obviously want to talk to you a little bit about music.
[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And I thought it was such a cool thing that your debut project was stack of records, which you've talked about a lot is inspired by a stack of records.
[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_01]: So the name there lines up exactly with how it came to be.
[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Can you speak on like that?
[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_01]: That was an actual physical stack of records that you still have.
[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_01]: That inspired that first project.
[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it came from.
[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_04]: So my parents had like this radio, this hall, and these phone speakers on the front of it.
[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Like in a mouse, get in the house one time and eat all the phone off.
[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_04]: But it had a record player on top and it had like this little cabinet underneath.
[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_04]: And it was just full of records.
[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_04]: So my mom was like the rocker.
[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I love like Ozzy Osbourne and stuff like that.
[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_04]: But her first concert was like Willie Nelson.
[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_04]: So she was very all over the place, you know, Pink Floyd and stuff like that.
[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I was joking around.
[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, I'm pretty sure my mom smoked weed back then.
[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_04]: So you had like a very wide range.
[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_04]: So as a kid, I would go up and I thought it was really cool to take that record out, put it on the turntable.
[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_04]: So I would just sit and listen to music and I can hear each instrument so I could learn how to play the songs.
[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And so I would do that and listen to records.
[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Then my dad had, he loved like Marshall Tucker and Hank Jr.
[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_04]: He had like every Hank Jr. record, Hank Jr.
[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_04]: And he was really, you know, Merle Haggard and stuff.
[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_04]: So he was big into Southern rock and country.
[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And then I had a neighbor across the road, Kevin.
[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_04]: He was the same age.
[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_04]: He was like a year older than me, but we would ride four wheelers and stuff together.
[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_04]: I'd go to his house every day after school.
[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_04]: We'd ride four wheelers and I'd go in and his mom was like,
[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, I heard you've been playing music.
[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_04]: She said, I got something to listen to.
[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_04]: She gave me an Otis Redmond album.
[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_04]: So I went back and listened to that and I was like, whoa.
[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_04]: And then I found Temptations and all the soul stuff and Ray Charles and stuff.
[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_04]: And my granddad gave me a John Berry record or Chuck Berry.
[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, John Berry.
[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, so I had this huge range of music that I was into.
[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_04]: And as I got older, I got into, you know, like Allman Brothers and stuff like that.
[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_04]: So when I first started playing bars, I kind of had like almost an Allman Brothers tribute band.
[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_04]: We just like jammed, drank beer, hang out.
[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_04]: And it was really cool.
[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_04]: So I was inspired by so many things.
[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_04]: But Willie Nelson was a big one when it came to like Redheaded Stranger and things like that was what made me want to write songs and tell stories.
[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_04]: And so but then, you know, I got into, like I said, Allman Brothers or even Dave Matthews and stuff like that.
[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_04]: And watching how people craft a song.
[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_04]: So I was into not just listening to music, but figuring out what they were doing.
[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_04]: And then I still last night I set up and watched a whole bunch of stuff on Blackberry Smoke and I was like, yeah.
[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_04]: And so I do it now.
[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I get inspiration.
[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Even when I'm on the road, I've just been out in Morgan Walling for two weeks in Europe.
[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I watch him every night.
[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_04]: We play together and stuff.
[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_04]: But I'm watching what they're doing.
[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_04]: I've been out with Willie Nelson and everybody and I watch how they interact with the crowd or what their fan base looks like or whatever.
[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_04]: And I just learn from people even now.
[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_04]: And so the Stacker Records album came from me growing up on Stacker Records.
[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_04]: And so every little song on there is pulled from a different thing.
[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_04]: They're soulful stuff.
[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_04]: They're very country things.
[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_04]: There's very singer songwriter storytelling things.
[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_04]: So that record is still close to me.
[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I love that one because I wrote every song on it and I wrote it to be that where it was every song was a little different.
[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_04]: And so I kind of crafted that way.
[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_04]: But it's still, I guess, one of the most requested albums that I have.
[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_04]: So I mean, I've got three or four of them out there, but that one we get the most songs requested from that record.
[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_02]: And being a songwriter, I have so many questions.
[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_02]: How did you even realize you could write a song?
[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Where did that start?
[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, that wasn't very good.
[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_04]: But it was started when I was in probably high school or so.
[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I used to write in elementary school, they would be like, you know, write poems so you could write poems.
[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And if they were good enough, you can get it published in a book.
[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_04]: And I got my first song published when I was in third or fourth grade or something like that.
[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_04]: And so I just liked it and thought it was cool.
[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_04]: And I guess I got an act for making things rhyme, I guess.
[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_04]: So I kept at it.
[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_04]: And then as I learned to play music early on, I got tired after 10 years of playing everybody else's songs.
[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I just wanted to write my own thing.
[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_04]: So I started writing my own songs in high school and they were garbage and they were terrible.
[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_04]: But like, and they were bad for a long time.
[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_04]: But enough of you buddies were like, man, that's good.
[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, you sit around and play something in the garage that you wrote.
[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_04]: And enough buddies say, that's pretty good.
[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_04]: You got to give for it.
[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_04]: So then you just keep writing, keep writing.
[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_04]: And it was an outlet for me to kind of whatever was on my mind.
[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_04]: So I would write those and then finally got brave enough to go out to a writer's realm and just got my feelings hurt.
[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm out there in my place, you know, this song is so good, I'm playing it.
[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_04]: And then this dude comes up and says, I wrote this for Hank Jr.
[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like, I'm terrible. I'm a terrible songwriter.
[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_04]: But again, that made me want to be better.
[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_04]: So I learned how they craft things.
[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's still my favorite thing to do, write songs.
[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And when you get on a good one, your hair stand up and it's like, oh, there's nothing better when you land a hook just right.
[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Or if you write something somebody else could do it.
[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_04]: That's a huge honor to me is hearing something on the radio or whatever that you've written for somebody else.
[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_04]: So that's where my heart is.
[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I love playing live shows, but writing a song is where it's at for me.
[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's one of my biggest questions about songwriting is, you know, you're married, but you can write a heartbreak song and either you'll cut it or someone else will cut it.
[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_02]: How do you get in the headspace to write about something like that when that isn't necessarily your current situation?
[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm a title guy. So like in my phone is just hundreds of song titles.
[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_04]: And some days I sit down, I'll just be picking on the guitar.
[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_04]: This feels like man made a bar or whatever.
[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's like so you kind of certain things I hear feels like a certain vibe to me or a title.
[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And so then I can have my heart broke just like anybody else.
[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_04]: So I know how to write that. I don't drink anymore, but I drink for a long time.
[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_04]: And it was a rowdy day for a very long time.
[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_04]: So I know what it's like to write a beer drinking song.
[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_04]: So I've lived it. That's the only way I know how to write a song is if I've lived it.
[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_04]: If I don't know anything about it, I can't write about it.
[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Do you find it difficult to write, well, I guess perform or even cut songs about drinking if you don't drink anymore?
[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_04]: No.
[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Because I love when people show up and they're drunk.
[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they're having a good time.
[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_04]: And I know exactly what they're doing because I'm like and I want to help them along.
[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, so there's a time and place for everything.
[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, it didn't bother me at all.
[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_04]: And people sit around drinking. I never went to rehab.
[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I just decided one day I was getting to a point where it hurt so bad to get drunk.
[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, I can't do this no more.
[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_04]: And then a lot of other things started happening and having kids and stuff.
[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, I didn't get time for this.
[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't have the urge to drink anymore.
[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_04]: I just quit caring about it. It wasn't fun to me anymore.
[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_04]: So that's why I quit.
[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, there's a lot of people that show up and they work hard all week.
[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_04]: And Friday night, they're going to turn loose because it's the weekend.
[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, and I've got a song for it.
[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean? It's called Quitting Ain't Working.
[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, and so I know how to honky tonk the best of them.
[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_04]: And I know how to do that.
[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_04]: And I can sing it and it's still fun.
[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_04]: And I like to watch other people have a good time.
[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_04]: That's why they're there is to have fun and tell you so.
[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_01]: We've got a couple of questions about some of your specific songs.
[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_01]: My personal favorite of yours is Things I Take for Granted.
[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Was there a certain moment that inspired that song?
[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Or was that one that kind of like over the years has slowly built itself up?
[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_04]: That was in the moment.
[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I wrote two songs that day, that one and Man Made a Bar from Morgan Air Church.
[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_04]: And so that was a good day.
[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_04]: But that morning we wrote Man Made a Bar.
[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_04]: And then I went to do sound check.
[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_04]: We were in what's called Arkansas, somewhere out there.
[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_04]: And we're playing at the theater or something.
[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I went in to do sound check and I was just standing out talking to my buddies in the parking lot.
[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, man, it's the days like these that I miss my family.
[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Like being out here at the time I just had one bus and there's just a bunch of dudes piled on it.
[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_04]: My family couldn't come out with me.
[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm like, man, it's the little things I miss the most.
[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, you know, throwing football with my boy or tucking the kids in at night.
[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Or a lot of different things, but little things that you just take for granted.
[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_04]: And then I was like, man, Things I Take for Granted sounds like a good song title.
[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_04]: So we went in and started writing it.
[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_04]: That's when like three kids and three green lights in a row and things like, yeah, it's just little things you just take for granted every day.
[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_04]: So to me, it felt like a good song and a strong song title.
[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_04]: But, yeah, we wrote both of those songs that day and probably two hours, you know, an hour or a piece, something like that.
[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_04]: And both of them in the point radio.
[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was joking like, I could use about 13 more days like that.
[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_04]: We'll finally get that pull.
[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's how it came about.
[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And when it comes to Man Made a Bar, how do you choose what songs are for you and what songs you allow others to have?
[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, most songs are for me because I write them that way.
[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_04]: It's something that I just want to write.
[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_04]: But Man Made a Bar was going to be mine too.
[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_04]: But Morgan could take a song and, you know, he needed two songs to finish his record and hit me up and was like, hey, you got anything?
[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_04]: I said, yeah, I got one. I got a couple.
[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_04]: And I actually sent both Things I Take for Grant and that one.
[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And Morgan had sent a couple to me.
[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_04]: He's like, man, that feels like that feels like you.
[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I sent him Man Made a Bar and he said, this is great.
[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_04]: I said, if you want it, you can have it. If not, I'm going to do it.
[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, whatever you want to do.
[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_04]: He said, OK. And then like a week later, he called me and said, hey, I cut that song.
[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, great. Cool.
[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_04]: And then talked to my producer and he was like, hey, I don't think we're going to put it out.
[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_04]: It's the most country thing on the record.
[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, it doesn't really fit with everything.
[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, great, you've already recorded it.
[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_04]: I'll just take it and I'll sing it.
[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_04]: And then it's quicker.
[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_04]: And then Morgan called me a day or two later and said, hey, I got an Eric Churstis singing with me too.
[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, well, it's definitely going on the record.
[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_04]: You got an Eric singing.
[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_04]: So and then, you know, it come out and it was so happy.
[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_04]: If you get a 36 song record that comes out, you don't want to be number 35 or six because nobody's probably going to hear it.
[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's number three or four, something like that on the track listing.
[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_04]: So worked out great and ended up on radio.
[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_04]: That's the first number one I've written to somebody.
[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_04]: So worked out pretty good.
[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_04]: But that one, I mean, I don't know.
[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I've got a lot of songs and a lot of people and I can write more.
[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_04]: So if somebody wants one of my songs, good, have it and I'll go write another one.
[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_04]: That one is it fit him.
[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_04]: And then there's a lot of irony things that happened around that, too.
[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_04]: But, you know, with him and Eric both owning bars and stuff now and throwing a chair off of Eric's.
[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_04]: It was sitting at number two on the charts and whatever all that happened, I was like, Morgan, come on.
[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_04]: But there's a lot went around it.
[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_04]: But it worked and it fit him.
[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's what he liked and thought was great.
[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_04]: So and Eric loved it, too.
[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_04]: So at the time, I didn't realize how good it was.
[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_04]: And then hearing them on it, I was like, well, it makes sense.
[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_04]: It ended up where it needs to be.
[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like songs will end up where they need to be.
[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_04]: And everything happens the way it's supposed to happen.
[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_04]: So that's what's supposed to happen.
[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I've heard that song a hundred times.
[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_02]: And now it actually makes sense that you wrote it.
[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I can hear you.
[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_02]: And after I listened to your newest album, French Bottom today, I was like, I can definitely hear you in that song.
[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I could imagine you singing to it.
[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_04]: You have to hear the demo of it.
[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I do it different than what he does.
[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_04]: But he did his thing.
[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_04]: It sounds great.
[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, I mean, I wrote it like I would play it.
[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_04]: That's kind of my thing.
[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not good at writing songs for people.
[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I just write songs.
[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_04]: And if it ends up with somebody, it ends up with them.
[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, I've been lucky enough to have a few end up with different people.
[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_04]: But that was definitely the biggest one.
[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_04]: And it worked out.
[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_04]: But I would have kept myself, too.
[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like we can't talk to you about talking about your biggest song that not someone else got, but you cut, where I found God.
[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_02]: When people think of Larry Flay, they think of that song.
[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_02]: And I was fortunate enough to see you at the Ryman, which was crazy.
[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Seeing that, how do you feel like that song has just changed your life?
[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Did you know it was going to do that when you wrote it?
[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't have a record deal when I wrote it.
[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_04]: And there's another really big artist and he wanted so he took it and had on hold for a year.
[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_04]: And then I messed around that record deal.
[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, hey, I don't want this song.
[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Like if he's not going to do it, then I feel like there's something there.
[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_04]: And me and my buddies would always round around and listen to the demo of me singing it when we're going Dutch hunting or whatever.
[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_04]: And enough guys that they got it.
[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_04]: They were like me.
[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_04]: They were like, dude, this song is amazing.
[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't know it was that good.
[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_04]: And I knew it was a good song.
[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I felt like I could feel it, but I didn't know it was going to react the way it did.
[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, then I get the song back and we recorded it and they shelved it.
[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_04]: It didn't go out on the first.
[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_04]: The working hard project was first thing I did with them out.
[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_04]: They didn't go out.
[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_04]: They just put the eight songs in.
[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_04]: We'll figure out something to do with it.
[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I was like, hey, why don't we put this song on Good Friday?
[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_04]: And so on 2020, we didn't know that the world was going to shut down.
[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_04]: But the way it happened and already did a little video and everything for it.
[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_04]: And then whenever it dropped, then COVID hit.
[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_04]: So everybody was, I guess, home watching YouTube.
[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_04]: It kind of blew up.
[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, then radio station started playing it.
[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'll say, then we got something here.
[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_04]: And then that's ended up being my first song on radio.
[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_04]: And it has grown and it still grows.
[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_04]: People are just now finding that song.
[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like, that thing's been out for four years.
[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's like they're still just finding it.
[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_04]: And then we go to Europe and me and Morgan sing it together every night.
[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_04]: And in front of 15, 20,000 people.
[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_04]: So then there's a lot of people in different countries have never heard the song.
[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_04]: They get to see it with just me and him.
[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm playing guitar and that's it.
[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_04]: And so it has been the song that, yeah, it's made my career.
[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's been the foundation, which that's a really good foundation to stand on.
[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_04]: And so we got that.
[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_04]: But I mean, people, they relate to it because, you know, it was I've heard this is kind of crazy,
[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_04]: but there was a couple of people that have been have died in like car wrecks and they show up
[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_04]: and they'd be like, that was the song was on repeat when they found them, which is kind of crazy.
[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_04]: But it's like you hear that pretty heavy.
[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_04]: But at the same time, like, wow, that's something there.
[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Then it's been played at funerals.
[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_04]: It's been played in churches and it's been played all over the world.
[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_04]: So I love that that is the song that people know me for.
[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Just like Morgan said, I think it's one of the best written songs I've ever heard.
[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_04]: And so that is what people know me for good.
[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm pretty proud of that one.
[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Can you share who had it on hold?
[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Luke Bryan had it on hold.
[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_04]: And one of those things, I've got songs on hold that I've never even heard before.
[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_04]: So I don't know if you ever heard the song or not.
[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_04]: They just called and said, hey, they got on hold for him.
[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_04]: And there was a couple other people that's walking up to time to he ended up with it.
[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_04]: And then at the time, I was like, man, that'd be great because I could use some tires on my truck.
[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_04]: And I mean, you know, before that.
[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_04]: But, you know, it didn't work out.
[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_04]: And thank God it didn't because we've been in a different situation.
[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I'd probably just be a songwriter and that'd be it right now.
[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_04]: But that is what boosted my career.
[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_04]: It took me from selling 50 to 100 tickets tonight to selling 1000 plus or whatever.
[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_04]: And so that is that's the song that people never before.
[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's what they never for forever.
[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Then I'm OK with it.
[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Which obviously, you know, people are going to know you on stage.
[00:26:32] But then there's also another form of you that your family knows like your dad.
[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Right. So how is that affected?
[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, your country music career, has that changed your writing process or timewise?
[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure things look a lot different now.
[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Right. Yeah.
[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_04]: The. Well, yeah, the songwriting is getting even better and more powerful because now I've gotten a little older and I have a family.
[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, little boys just turned five, little girls three.
[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's like. So I write songs about everyday life with them.
[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And then there's so many other people that have little kids to or they've had kids that are now grown or you're about to have kids.
[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_04]: So I got I got the Willie Nelson fan base.
[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, you know, they're little kids, the grandparents, you know.
[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_04]: And so, yeah, it's the words and these define me.
[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_04]: So it's kind of I am, you know, a dad.
[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_04]: And so they don't know that they get they don't have an idea of what I actually did.
[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_04]: They just think it's cool.
[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_04]: We get to go on stage and we're riding around in buses and we're playing shows and people are clapping.
[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_04]: They just come on stage and dance around. They think everybody's cheering for them.
[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_04]: And they are. But it's like they don't it didn't quite register what what it is, you know.
[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_04]: And so they just get to come and have fun with me and I get to see that.
[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_04]: And so I write songs about it and I write I write songs for them.
[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I got, you know, plenty of kids songs I've been writing just to sing with them.
[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, and so I mean, my whole way of thinking is way different than it was, you know, five or six, 10 years ago.
[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Whatever it was back then was beer drinking and raising hell and honky tonking.
[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_04]: And then now it's like, well, I'm an old man.
[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like, you know, because we got these these kids that are young and they'll wear you out.
[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I just write things that take a break.
[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I write these things that people relate to because they get that was if you're looking at families,
[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_04]: that is kind of the biggest chunk of it is hardworking family type crowds and they show up with their kids and stuff.
[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_04]: And I love it because lots of town people well all the time people talk to me like then I can bring my kids to your show.
[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_04]: And we're not, you know, cussing and smashing beers and getting crazy like it is a well as Joe and say it's a family friendly show, but it's still sexy.
[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_04]: So that's what we're going after is a safe place for me to bring kids and you to have fun with your kids.
[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_04]: The kids, you know, five or six years old, they can play with my kids.
[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, like we're going to make it the best first concert for a kid.
[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, and so that is the stuff I'm trying to write is to make it where it's a safe place for everybody to come listen.
[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that was a scare.
[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_04]: So the.
[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't really honestly know what happened.
[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_04]: We were in Oregon and we were getting ready to leave there and go somewhere and we were leaving the parking lot.
[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_04]: And so my bus is here and my band bus is right here.
[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_04]: And then the red play strays, they were right beside us and we were all just kind of hanging out.
[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_04]: And all of a sudden you see this smoke cloud come out behind the band bus.
[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, it's on fire.
[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think the driver hit there's like an emergency button you can hit and it's a fire extinguisher and just chase the motor.
[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, so if there was a motor fire, hit this button and it just it's like taking 10 fire extinguishers and just bust them.
[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_04]: So of course we draw a crowd, you know, it's embarrassing.
[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_04]: And the drivers are like, I didn't do it.
[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_04]: She totally did it.
[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_04]: We were like, OK, we don't know.
[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_04]: We didn't want to call her out.
[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_04]: But yes, she hit it.
[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_04]: And so that was the bus fire.
[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I don't think it actually caught on fire.
[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Then she just hit the button and we ended up with whatever is in the fire extinguisher.
[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_04]: I have no idea.
[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_04]: But there's some sort of power.
[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_04]: And it was everywhere.
[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, you know, like a crown singing like it was just stuff.
[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, when it blows up, it's like a 20 yard thing.
[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it blew stuff everywhere.
[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_04]: But that's a bus fire.
[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess better than an actual fire.
[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_04]: So we drove out of there.
[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_04]: So that was good.
[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. And I mean, stuff like that's going to happen out on the road, I'm sure all the time.
[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And you've got a pretty exciting event coming up on the road, the Field and Stream Music Festival,
[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_01]: October 4th through the 6th.
[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_01]: In Williamsboro, South Carolina?
[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that an event that you've had circled on the calendar for a while?
[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we've had that.
[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_04]: I guess it's a brand new thing.
[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, that came about, I don't know, a couple months ago.
[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_04]: My manager's over here looking at Facebook or something.
[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know how long ago that we've had that, but it's been a few months or something.
[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think it's going to be really fun.
[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_04]: And I've been seeing pictures of where it's at.
[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_04]: It's beautiful.
[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_04]: So it's going to be a really cool spot.
[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, I'm pumped up by it.
[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_02]: They have a lot of other things besides music like excursions for off-roading, fishing.
[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Really?
[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. So are there any of those outdoor activities that you like doing as well?
[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Everything you just said.
[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm an outdoors guy, you know.
[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I think they sent me this hat the other day.
[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's pretty cool.
[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, hunting, fishing, riding four wheelers, all that.
[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_04]: It deals with being outside.
[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_04]: I just ordered a new War Eagle boat the other day.
[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_04]: So pretty pumped about to keep that in and buy one.
[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_04]: And so anything on the water, in the woods, being outside.
[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_04]: That is what we're about.
[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Kids are too.
[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_04]: My little boy's got a four-wheeler.
[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_04]: He loves hunting, fishing with me and stuff.
[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Little girl.
[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_04]: She's in dresses and stuff.
[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_04]: She's the girl, but she still likes riding four-wheelers with her daddy and stuff.
[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_04]: So when it comes to killing a deer, I'm not sure she's there yet.
[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_04]: But that is what I grew up on.
[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's what makes me happy.
[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's where I find God.
[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_04]: All that stuff came from being in a deer stand, you know, hay fields and just being outside.
[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_04]: That's kind of where I find God.
[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Not to fill a title, but that's literally where I find God.
[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_04]: That's where I talk to, you know, praying and all that stuff is outside.
[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_04]: And so yeah, I'm all about that.
[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Were you a field and stream person before Eric Church and Morgan Wallen?
[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, being able to take over the field and stream?
[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm big into any conservation stuff.
[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_04]: But also I have all the magazines, stacks of them, and have looked at them since I was a kid.
[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And we were reading and up trying to be the best deer hunter, best fisherman we could be.
[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_04]: We watched all the shows growing up.
[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, it's like a new thing to me.
[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I've lived it for a long time.
[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's wrap up by doing Rappifier that is brought to you by Bell and Dream Music Festival.
[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Great choice on the hat.
[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they need to be included there.
[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_01]: It lacks a thing, I don't know.
[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_02]: First question is what is your favorite outdoor activity?
[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_02]: What do you guys like to do?
[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, duck hunting is by far my favorite, but here in Turkey, I like to be a speedhunter in general.
[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Fill in the blank, sad country songs and blank make me happy.
[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Sad country songs and babies.
[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_04]: You can't be mad at a baby.
[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Who is your favorite artist?
[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I know you mentioned a bunch, but who is the first one that comes to mind?
[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's a hard one.
[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_04]: We don't want to get you in trouble.
[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_04]: No, mine is always going to be Orga.
[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, Murl Haggard is probably right at the top.
[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Not a bad answer.
[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_01]: What's something that's on your bucket list, career-wise or just personal life?
[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I mean, it's two different things.
[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_04]: But career-wise, I want to headline an arena.
[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I want to be one place with as many people as I can or headline Red Rocks or something big.
[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I've got to do the rhyming and that's been cool.
[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_04]: And then, I don't know, as far as personal goes,
[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_04]: just raising up good kids that ain't brats.
[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_04]: That's what we're all hooked for.
[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_04]: We try to do the best we can and give them things you didn't have.
[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_04]: But we'll just talk about it some way or the other.
[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_04]: You don't want to be brats.
[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Try to raise good kids.
[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_04]: That's what I'm strapped for.
[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_02]: What is your favorite sad country song?
[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Shoot.
[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Probably Whiskey Ball Bounce.
[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_04]: It was pretty sad.
[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was a good one.
[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_01]: What about a Go Shoot karaoke song that you can bust out?
[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, Let Her Cry, who you can both finish.
[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Great one.
[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_02]: And then last one is what are you doing when you're not playing music?
[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I'm way over here.
[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I work out, you know, my health nut, clearly.
[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_04]: And so, you know, we like to work out.
[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_04]: And I like to just be at my house because I'm not there a whole lot.
[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_04]: And so when I'm home, I like to be home and go out.
[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I got property stuff.
[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_04]: So I spent all day yesterday getting deer blinds ready and stuff like that.
[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_04]: So working on my property and hunting and just being around my house.
[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I call that enjoying my wrench.
[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.
[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, thank you so much for your time.
[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you to FilmStream for promoting this podcast today.
[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_02]: And I look forward to seeing you perform at that festival coming up.
[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be good.
[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Thanks for having me.
[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Thanks so much.
[00:37:12] Thank you.