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[00:01:24] We got Jake Worthington here. We were just chatting about the big night last night. Marty Stewart

[00:01:30] kind of gave you the surprise of your life it sounds like if you want to talk about the

[00:01:34] operate and all that and what it means to you. Real cool moment we captured. If people haven't

[00:01:38] seen it, it's on our Instagram and Twitter and whiskyriff.com of course.

[00:01:43] Yep. Whiskyriff was kind enough to video that moment. Man, I mean it's everything new guy like me,

[00:01:52] you know, I mean there's only two stages in this world that ever I ever, you know when you're worth

[00:02:00] it down, you play the rhyming auditorium or the opera or the Houston rodeo and I got to do one of

[00:02:11] those things last night. You know with just some of the most incredible musicians on planet

[00:02:20] that was you know shit man I didn't think everything nothing like that ever happened to me,

[00:02:27] you know. I mean I'm so used to playing songs and music people don't want to hear

[00:02:34] you know. And so that was you know what man I've I've sat and I'll try to figure out what song I was

[00:02:46] going to write or sing or you know I still I can't put it in words and I couldn't find it any words

[00:02:55] in the moment but you know my little brother I think. I'll say in that video we all posted and

[00:03:01] man I've watched quite a few whiskyriff podcasts and I've watched a lot of everything else share

[00:03:10] man and I know you all like to listen to music and I know you all respect and appreciate it

[00:03:17] and I'm grateful that there's something like a whisky riff out there spreading spreading good news.

[00:03:24] I'd love to hear that. Appreciate it. Yeah absolutely. So how did you kind of get your starting

[00:03:30] country music and what kind of brought you into this world, this kind of neo-traditional sound that

[00:03:36] is quite frankly pretty rare in the industry right now just like straight out of the 90s

[00:03:42] essentially it's kind of the vibe I get from a lot of your music just real true blue country music.

[00:03:48] How do you kind of get started in that? What kind of is kept your heart in traditional country music

[00:03:54] versus kind of adapting to some of the more pop sensibilities that might make you more popular,

[00:04:00] might get you on a radio a little bit more like you said you're not used to people wanting to listen

[00:04:04] to your music so kind of what it's kept you stubborn in that sense.

[00:04:10] Man I mean it's my experience has been a combative effort every step of the way.

[00:04:19] I never thought man I just wanted to make country music, when I did that voice stuff

[00:04:26] I was having to figure out how I'm going to sing a real country song on TV. I know that term is

[00:04:31] so used and maybe not always understood you know I think real country music is something that

[00:04:42] comes from your heart and sounds country. You know you ain't nothing you got to, I personally don't

[00:04:51] believe you anything you gotta tell somebody y'all you just do it and you know

[00:04:59] man since I was 12 or 13 years old I was probably 13 years old when I learned

[00:05:06] you know when I got my first real guitar and I was gonna learn you know how I'm gonna figure this

[00:05:13] shit out and I still am trying to you know I'm still trying to figure it out but you know my

[00:05:21] granddad he was my papa I call him papa guitar you know every Christmas he pulled out he pulled

[00:05:29] out his fender like it was a down you know he had a fender acoustic guitar and I've got it now

[00:05:36] you know when he pulled it out like it was a got like it was a deGaum you know

[00:05:48] 1940s Martin or something you know what I mean I get a word of appreciating good things I

[00:05:58] appreciate that fender guitar and I appreciate my papa singing me a song that a grown man

[00:06:06] would understand you know and for me being a kid you know Christmas time we're singing bottle

[00:06:12] let me down you know that was that was my childhood and so you know I could not something

[00:06:21] I googled her or you know don't get me wrong I have taken advantage of of I mean we live in the

[00:06:31] generation where we can find all of it anything that ever was somebody went and posted that

[00:06:41] shit somewhere and we can find it and you know I'd be a liar if I said that none of that had any

[00:06:49] didn't have no influence on me you know there's so many shows that I wish I could have witnessed

[00:06:57] an experience but I never did and early on in my you know getting in the bare joints and really like

[00:07:06] you know getting in a band and get a band together and I'm gonna do this for a living early on

[00:07:13] and that I got to work I got to work some dates with Darryl Singletary and and that's that's

[00:07:21] the greatest singer who ever sang a country song that I personally witnessed and maybe it

[00:07:34] wasn't just his records that made him special you know it was it was it was what he did and who he

[00:07:41] was but in his singing obviously but man I'm pleased sitting there in this we sit there in

[00:07:48] Mace, Enselin and south, south of Houston and you know it's just the club it's a beer joint

[00:07:55] in Houston you know a club consists of some type of dance floor two to three bars and a stage

[00:08:06] in some places to sit you know but I was we got to watch Darryl Singletary play live with

[00:08:15] with a pretty sure six piece man Fiddling steel no keys no nothing you know just Fiddling

[00:08:25] steel and his bass man feel fried Ricky playing guitar, Tyler Hall playing steel and a guy named Andy

[00:08:34] Barnard playing Fiddle I can't remember the drummer's name but I felt like I was

[00:08:42] I watched that sound check and me my band did at the time and it was like holy cow this is what

[00:08:52] country music sounds like it can be done and you know that was a big motivator for me to try

[00:09:00] to find a way to be able to sing country songs that I love and that I understand and that I believe

[00:09:11] and do them well but do it with a band you know that it could it's not just it's not something that

[00:09:18] happened in the in the 70s and 80s and the 90s it's something that's going on right now

[00:09:23] and and it's happening in so many ways and more ways than just that I'm a part of you know

[00:09:33] so many of these catch right now that are getting elevated off for lack of better terms

[00:09:41] are making their own music and and and that's pretty inspiring for people like you whiskey

[00:09:48] riff to get behind that and y'all got a y'all got a pretty strong pull on that road you know

[00:09:55] people listening we love we love when we heard that hear that stuff uh Joshua Ray Walker

[00:10:01] was one guy that talked about his uh gauging his Spotify plays based on when we put him in play

[00:10:08] listen so when we hear that stuff for an artist we really like I think it's always like a really

[00:10:13] satisfying moment for us crazy job looking up Darryl when you were talking because I was like how long

[00:10:18] ago did he pass away to five years over five years ago last song he sang like this for good to

[00:10:24] choose the last song he sang was that a club and and uh Lafayette Louisiana Cowboys I worked at

[00:10:31] joint had me some fun there but the last song he sang was Old Byland the paycheck so you know

[00:10:40] and of course you know but I didn't mean it rough you no no that's uh that's awesome yeah

[00:10:48] it's crazy like how fast time goes I know we we covered it when it happened and obviously a lot

[00:10:54] of songs of his are on the our new music around many country playlist as well I want to ask you about

[00:11:00] Ronnie Dutt brother sorry go have a say such an underrated 90s country artist you know he's never

[00:11:05] like listed when you hear like you know people rattle off George straight and Reba and you know

[00:11:11] Tracy Lawrence and not in a like but Darryl Snails Harry man so many good songs great voice great

[00:11:16] country voice yeah you're right you know I think that I mean obviously George straights came

[00:11:26] like I love Reba you know I love Reba uh Alan Jackson you have a better umphyrsial love you too

[00:11:33] you seem like the type of guy she would love well I can't wait to meet her if that opportunity ever

[00:11:39] arises I will I make sure not say no student you know I'll see that for the podcast yeah you know what

[00:11:52] I mean I was gonna ask about Ronnie Dunne real quick too because some of the names West brought up

[00:11:58] you were on his album right I forgot which song that was pop was the whiskey or no no no sorry

[00:12:05] sorry that that was earnest um you were on a hundred proof neon for honky talk town yeah Ronnie done

[00:12:13] in 2022 we've had Ronnie on uh I think twice twice so I mean one of the coolest dudes ever um

[00:12:24] yeah let me know obviously we grew up on his music he's exactly is he exactly like that in

[00:12:29] person and working with him and because he just came off as like the coolest dude ever when we talk to

[00:12:34] him he has he has been for me you know uh that that whole thing come about because you know being

[00:12:43] signed here at Big Glow they do the hardy does this hicks take records all right when that record was

[00:12:49] getting put together I was just signing paperwork and of course that opportunity came and and I'd be

[00:12:57] idiot say no we cut a song with jack o and Ronnie sang on it called Jones and Ernest wrote that song too

[00:13:07] and uh uh that led on to to get in and be on Ronnie's records I was sitting at Seth England's house

[00:13:19] and Travis Carter and Troy Johnson were with where with me and Ronnie had reached out to Travis and

[00:13:29] said something about you know how we we want that Jake kid to hang on this record

[00:13:35] and I said hey man you tell Ronnie I'd just say when and he said tomorrow like six o'clock

[00:13:41] you'll be there by God we will which Steve Mark Antonio's house there was the engineer on that record

[00:13:47] and I'm oddly enough got to work with Steve Mark Antonio years ago years ago for uh or you know

[00:13:57] a project I never never seen a lot of day but uh you know it was really really cool to walk in

[00:14:06] that room and be needed and uh you know somebody like me don't experience that all the time

[00:14:13] and uh or if not if not needed wanted you know and so I was uh you know what it's saying

[00:14:24] the vocals in a in a closet and uh had Ronnie the I mean Ronnie Donne is without a doubt one of

[00:14:36] I mean the standalone vocal nothing sounds probably done yeah I don't believe a word until you

[00:14:45] till you hear everybody dancing and and uh you know to have him be hearing him in the cans like that

[00:14:53] and no that was that that's a whole lot different than hearing him on truck speakers and singing to him

[00:15:00] you know what I mean and uh so Ronnie's just continuing to be nothing but supported the man

[00:15:11] it's uh you know I got word for yeah I think when we first sat him on the podcast if I remember right

[00:15:19] we asked him you know who are some of the young cats that he's like really listening to now and

[00:15:25] he was singing your praises and this was probably two or three years ago maybe even uh so he was saying

[00:15:32] he Jake Worlington is you don't mind out of Texas great great country voice you know

[00:15:38] right now I'm talking and he was Jake Worlington got a listen tool man yeah um so he he's been singing

[00:15:45] your praises for a while and obviously it's showing a more ways than one what was that

[00:15:52] did he lie or is he telling the truth he's telling the truth he could say anything he wants

[00:15:58] also just with your music it's refreshing I mean we the like the um the start of whiskey ref

[00:16:06] and then the growth but like we kind of had that start the music was in a weird spot at that time

[00:16:12] except like seven eight years ago it was a lot of the Florida Georgia line it was a lot of that

[00:16:17] and then we've just seen that kind of and Wes and I like I was born in the late 80s as was Wes like

[00:16:24] so it's we grew up in like 90s country and then it's it's that like grow up in the 90s country

[00:16:29] that's current because you're kidding you're listening to it you're getting into it but then as you

[00:16:33] get older you appreciate it more you start going back and go okay let me listen to the stuff

[00:16:36] before I was born even the stuff from the you know the murals the murals of the world and stuff

[00:16:42] so then we see these cycles right yeah well we see these cycles right and it's so when we start

[00:16:48] hearing people like yourself even Luke Holmes like for being as big as he is it's like it still has

[00:16:52] some of that sound of the of the 90s of the early 2000s even I mean it's like refreshing because

[00:16:59] we're inundated with just emails and songs and playlists and this and we're and it's like so much

[00:17:04] of it's bad and the so much of it now is like through TikTok and this and that and um so it's like

[00:17:10] yeah you get older you go oh this reminds me of this young guy like yourself singing songs that

[00:17:15] remind me of when I got into country music when I was you know seven eight nine ten years old

[00:17:21] listening to it at the house so it is refreshing for for people like us because you can get really

[00:17:26] jaded and with the industry with the kind of politics of you know PR and perhaps that we don't

[00:17:32] really fuck with luckily but yeah no so absolutely like he knew what he was talking about

[00:17:40] Ronnie did I should say well man you know what only thing I ever wanted to do you know that

[00:17:51] moment when I watched Darryl sing every minute the feeling that you just articulated is the same

[00:17:57] feeling that I had and uh man I mean to think that my music does that for somebody you know it

[00:18:13] feels familiar sounds like country music to them the way that they first with the way that they hear

[00:18:19] it heard it to me that's that's a pretty damn good that's a pretty damn good thing and

[00:18:26] yeah so that's it's a hell of a compliment and I man I you know I'm not the only one that was

[00:18:33] involved in that I wrote the songs and sang them but you know there are so many people involved

[00:18:40] in making making all that happen in a time where where that seems to be a hard thing to do you know

[00:18:49] what's authentic it's authentic too I've meant to add I think some people are going to try now more so

[00:18:56] we've I mean they're already doing it like certain artists may not try to get into that maybe

[00:19:01] they're not gonna do a whole album that sounds like 90s or little older old school but let me just

[00:19:07] try a song here there to kind of see like how oh people look when it's like it's not authentic if

[00:19:12] it's just you're just doing it for like a thing for like a song or a single for a tic-tock

[00:19:17] yeah but for you it's like I mean anybody who listens to his podcast and just hearing you kind

[00:19:22] of just talk about what life and music it's it's pretty obvious it's 100% authentic and that's

[00:19:28] what we're all about here so you're not kind of fool anybody that's your music well I'm grateful

[00:19:38] that there's an opportunity to man I'm grateful that something like Whiskey Rift exists you know

[00:19:49] the podcast thing and grant I've taken advantage of being able to have the access to

[00:19:58] so you know podcast as we live in this time and hearing how somebody thinks

[00:20:04] in real time you know that's what a gift that is to us but these you know as far as me doing it's been

[00:20:14] them I know not a lot of it but I I'm grateful I'm really grateful I'm sorry I ain't got the

[00:20:25] better words for it no no no I mean I pre I you probably already thanks us more than anybody

[00:20:31] that's in a good way and a good way so I mean that means a lot to us because sometimes

[00:20:38] it's a lonely business it's like you get focused on numbers and money and and and growing

[00:20:44] and and keeping the lights on and adding team members and but then keeping that north star of

[00:20:50] what are we about what do we care about obviously the music and and and and lifestyle about doors

[00:20:56] and stuff like that we care about so you know people like yourself make this a lot easier

[00:21:02] and even like some of the fan questions that came in you know it's like we always ask these

[00:21:08] you know we before the podcast like fan questions and years were kind of all over the place in a

[00:21:12] good way people seem to be really kind of just resonating with your music and it's I think it has

[00:21:18] to do with some of this stuff you talk about like you mentioned or we mentioned earnest a couple

[00:21:21] times like Ernest is a super unique guy we've had him on full of cell you know you're working with

[00:21:28] you're open no no no you're opening shows for him right and how how's that been like that

[00:21:37] that guy's got kind of all over the place now and and people are working with him he's all

[00:21:42] over the place but he's right down the middle in one way and that's on the song you know that

[00:21:47] that there's two kind of riders in this world and I know what kind of rider Ernest is and

[00:21:56] you know I think country music's lucky to have him yes he writes different kinds of songs

[00:22:02] maybe not all of them are saying it on obviously you know but the one the pop goes to whiskey

[00:22:09] yeah you know I mean ain't like I don't drink whiskey and ain't like I don't smoke and

[00:22:17] and ain't like I I think that everybody's experienced some sort of

[00:22:25] songs are supposed to be related and if that's a relative that's a win but it's here with

[00:22:34] damn fun singing all you know I just believe in our Ernest I believe in I personally believe in

[00:22:43] what he stands for and that's that's the song at the end of the day that's the song

[00:22:51] yeah if you get his background too we talked about it on the show right was I think but

[00:22:56] it's like you can put all that aside and then when you start to see some of the stuff he's put out

[00:23:02] or some of the collapse he's done or some of this stuff he's written it's like you can say

[00:23:06] anything you want but that's legit you know country you know so it's one of those type of things

[00:23:12] it's that it's authentic yeah exactly him yeah in which it's authentic everybody else you know

[00:23:25] and don't do you ever get annoyed is there like a this in general mainstream country like

[00:23:30] sometimes or not even mentioned there's older songs and it's like

[00:23:35] there's like so many segments of fans in country like some are so phrasey about like everything has to

[00:23:43] be so traditional like it's like we love you know Chadah Hootie for Alan Jackson we love that song

[00:23:49] we make a lot of jokes and like in a good way about it we we love that song and

[00:23:53] um promoted in different ways meme or whatever it's like like obviously Alan wouldn't say yeah

[00:24:00] this is the best written song ever written like it's a fun like feel good feel good it's not

[00:24:07] like every artist is gonna have though so it's like you can't just be like no it has everything has to

[00:24:13] be like this depressing slow like you can have that you have this fun shit and be like Alan Jackson

[00:24:20] who's barely ever had a co-writer in his career my all-time favorite is Alan so it's like yeah

[00:24:26] every artist has that but when people complain about a certain artist getting bigger and kind of

[00:24:32] maybe releasing a song a little like that that's maybe gonna go to radio it's like

[00:24:38] like relax it's one song to young artists it's like do you kind of do you sense that a little bit

[00:24:43] when you're on Twitter and some of this stuff and you know what man and I do not mean to say this like

[00:24:52] like as if I'm not paying attention or trying to be caught up or or just you know appreciate

[00:25:00] what's going on but I also wrapped up in my own bullshit it's hard to worry about other people's

[00:25:07] you know uh I mean good for you good for you that's it good for you well I mean not so much

[00:25:15] you know sometimes that's a hell of a day you know yeah but not being on Twitter I'm saying not

[00:25:21] being on Twitter I'm envious not reading the comments well you know I get on there sometimes but

[00:25:28] you know my phone yeah you want to my you know I forgets my passwords worse than I do you know

[00:25:36] so some days I can sign into that sound of a bitch and then some day the you know but I mean you

[00:25:42] know what I like what I get the most out of the social media world these days in my opinion I'm seeing more

[00:25:48] and more stuff that I would look for you know I'm seeing more and more country music and like

[00:25:56] what the hell is a problem with that you know I think that's a great I think it's a great thing

[00:26:01] yeah I think I don't you know I was 17 trying to put a record out I was

[00:26:08] one of years old trying to put a record out never did I put a piece out and I'm proud of the work

[00:26:15] that I did in the past but you know everybody's got their own obstacles I just when it comes to this

[00:26:23] stuff you know this ain't a hobby you know this ain't a rotten zones and singing them and getting

[00:26:33] the chance to record and prestigious studios and all that that's you know that's that that's

[00:26:41] always been out of my hands it's never been in my hands never had the money for it anyways but

[00:26:46] the songs you know you can write those anywhere you know but they got a concrete same place you know

[00:26:55] and I just I ain't nothing you got to tell somebody you is yeah I love that I love that

[00:27:04] did have a fan question here uh your go-to drink and hangover cure if you have one

[00:27:12] what's my hangover cure or any of your go-to drink if you have one

[00:27:16] I probably know drinking last night you know a lot of doubt it did

[00:27:28] realistically speaking water man you know a lot of sleeping waters yeah that's the lady's side

[00:27:38] of me you know it's hard you know when I was coming into this stuff you know it's really easy to

[00:27:46] drink beer at the end of the time of the day and get some stuff done but that next morning when

[00:27:51] you got to be up early after three or four of them nights it's not always easy to obtain

[00:27:57] you know oh yeah I like I like to have a good time you know so it ain't like I know myself

[00:28:06] nice but I you know I like a bloody Mary if I'm at the airport and I'm yeah you know

[00:28:13] going somewhere in the morning I like a bloody Mary hair of the dog is the quickest way for me to

[00:28:19] fix it I mean maybe it'll be a problem later but you just yeah I'm actually up to that

[00:28:26] but it's not how early you wake up if you wake up and even then you know it's not time it's it

[00:28:32] makes sense right if you're if you're up and going at 12 o'clock before an noon and stuff you know

[00:28:39] that's that's you got to hair the dog you better be off yeah you better be uh

[00:28:49] gotta be off you know I always thought I always heard my house told about drinking like

[00:28:55] if the name stopping you from getting your work and your job done successfully

[00:29:01] yeah you know not no worry about it but alcoholics and alcoholics but it gets a great

[00:29:11] I love it that's funny real quick before we let you go here um so you're all we mentioned

[00:29:18] earners you're opening some shows for him in the fall you're also gonna open for Laney Wilson at Red

[00:29:22] Rocks which is awesome um you know what's that yeah you got any thoughts on how it's pretty awesome

[00:29:28] yeah I do you know uh I don't know what I don't uh you know that's such a

[00:29:37] life-changing event as much like I'd you know confirm you the power of some power of the power

[00:29:46] of some is far exceeds anything I could ever imagine and you know uh Laney has all

[00:29:57] been really kind to me and and uh I'm grateful to to get to be a part of the show that she's got

[00:30:07] going on um let first off and foremost and then secondly to get to play over him like the Red Rocks

[00:30:14] you know um you know for me my my damn ass if you played the Pasadena rodeo and and if Gilles

[00:30:22] was still around that would have been a place to have played and then like uh the Hustor rodeo

[00:30:27] and then the Opera and Rhyman like that was it the Rhyman and the Hustor rodeo the Opera and

[00:30:33] the Hustor rodeo those are the stages that I grew up knowing like if you just worked the damn that

[00:30:40] you worked that really um but I also heard about these prestigious beer joints and taxes and dance halls

[00:30:50] that you know you could also maybe it wasn't in the headlines you know seeing in or whatever the hell

[00:30:58] but it was important and and you wasn't getting in the rooms unless you was worth a damn

[00:31:03] and I've gotten to see a few of those but not all and uh and I look forward to you know

[00:31:12] getting to experience those things but I believe the same moment is that happened that happened

[00:31:19] you know there or this is important as any of the places I've named but like to play Red Rocks

[00:31:29] you know that's that's a that's a level up that's totally different from here. This is this is

[00:31:35] actually perfect because my wife's been annoying me she loves Laney we love in Colorado and uh

[00:31:42] she's like she's I didn't even know she's it's a September show I think right? She says uh

[00:31:48] September yeah so we got some time but my wife's been bugging me about it bugging me I hadn't

[00:31:54] even realized that you were kind of the opener so I think now is the we're gonna have to maybe reach

[00:32:00] out to the new team a little bit get this situation so we can make it out there. We've been there

[00:32:05] like crazy enough my wife and I and my dog we've gone there multiple times just living out here

[00:32:11] it's not too far of a it's like an hour drive from where I live but it uh you can just go there

[00:32:18] I don't know if you know like when there's not concerts playing because it's just such a beautiful

[00:32:21] area people go hiking people work out on the stairs kids go there like great views all this cool

[00:32:28] shit you can do with there's yeah well it's just like open it's just like a park uh but then when

[00:32:32] it's a concert it's a little different um so we've done that multiple times but I haven't yet seen

[00:32:37] like a country you know concert there will we share some videos of Zach Bryan there and

[00:32:41] Rose Wussy God when I think that Wes that was in like the winter or closer to the winter last year

[00:32:47] and it was snowing like crazy but it created this awesome environment where you see the red like

[00:32:52] the literal red rocks and like people are all singing a hug in and wearing winter clothes and

[00:32:56] you're yeah and that it's very hard yeah it's very hard to kind of and it's like

[00:33:02] it's like just one like just straight up bleachers it's just like boom like like this it's like

[00:33:09] there's no venue like that man but I'll tell you uh the van der Schaum

[00:33:14] we'll be reaching out we'll be reaching out oh my god I hope you do if there's any

[00:33:21] or if we're due for a date night like that we're due for dating and I like to

[00:33:25] hook it up I'll do it if I don't have an over and to do it I'll call Laney and we'll we'll say if

[00:33:31] she'll do it that's what I like I love that we've had Laney on two or three times of the podcast

[00:33:37] she's a she's a friend of the show yeah honestly one of the one of the only like

[00:33:44] she's the real huge I mean she was so into it like drinking bourbon at two o'clock like we're just

[00:33:49] like yes because sometimes people think it's going to be like a real

[00:33:53] I think I was for losing the end dog yeah you can get some if you want to lose the end and I

[00:33:59] don't care the next morning you know what I mean yeah sometimes people I think like

[00:34:06] arenas familiar with the podcast world and I think they're gonna come out here and it's

[00:34:09] gonna be a traditional interview and then they get on and me and Wes are standing here

[00:34:17] but drinking and they're like oh shit like should I should I have you're honestly you're

[00:34:22] dipping over here so I'll be appreciate but like you know people are just like oh shit like I

[00:34:26] thought this was like no this isn't a fucking cookie cutter interview what are you thinking you

[00:34:32] know album like no we don't do that okay we're hanging out I hear you know what I mean but

[00:34:40] that's been so good for you know I think it's been great for the culture I think it's been great

[00:34:46] for country music you know the bullshit and and do not bullshit you know cutting the shit is what

[00:34:54] you know shooting a shit that's nice and art that a lot of people have forgotten about yeah I mean

[00:35:04] I just think in general for for the music too like from your side it's like I just

[00:35:11] like we got pro-chalix sports a little bit like people like opinions right you would never watch

[00:35:17] this yeah but but in music or traditionally country music media like for the most part

[00:35:24] like nobody would really have an opinion it would just be very like we cover everything we cover

[00:35:30] everything top 30 on the radio and that's what we do and it's like oh no we can cover Texas

[00:35:35] guys that aren't on the radio we can cover this and that and and that's when we really felt like

[00:35:41] I don't know like way more excited about what we were doing because it was working which was obviously

[00:35:46] important as far as like to engage in traffic but it was also authentic to us because when we

[00:35:52] should when we hit off on the on the pod or whatever it's like that's what we're going to listen to

[00:35:58] people like yourself or you know there's whiskey Myers like there's so many different types of

[00:36:02] sounds out there they really don't get promoted um we've been talking I mean we were

[00:36:10] been we've been listening to him for years and then he just signs a record deal with dig out and

[00:36:15] you know he skies a limit for that dude and but it's like we've been we've been covering him for years

[00:36:21] you know yeah well he's good I think a lot of people I think a lot of people that was in that

[00:36:30] isn't in the industry watch watch all stuff we all pay attention to it not I'm not gonna lie about

[00:36:36] that we watch it man and and and and not only that the I mean who I can't imagine that all these

[00:36:44] people that that are in the music industry aren't country music fans you know we're all fans first

[00:36:51] and at some point you know I mean I would think I've met I've met people that labels not yours

[00:36:58] I will disagree they don't they don't even know you well you wouldn't believe it you we can

[00:37:05] talk about it off camera but you wouldn't believe it dude some of the people at other labels that

[00:37:09] we've met and you say Sturgial Simpson or Tyler chillers they they literally look at you like

[00:37:14] you're an alien they have no idea who you're talking about oh that's concerning a little bit

[00:37:20] that's a little concern everybody's in their own world brother you know everybody is I think part of

[00:37:27] the part of the experience is is not paying attention to the rest of the world and just

[00:37:36] and just uh doing you and sometimes that can be that can come across like you don't know what's

[00:37:44] going on but like do we really ever yeah I wasn't referring to an artist I was referring to like

[00:37:51] people kind of telling us what to say to an artist like the PR people yeah when they

[00:37:57] they're telling us like the questions to ask on a podcast and then I would like

[00:38:02] like up on it you don't even know anything about country music so I would try to like

[00:38:06] make them look you know by asking him questions about like other country artists yeah they're just

[00:38:11] like they have no clue so it's like if you're running if your job is to run a country artist

[00:38:15] is like image or whatever and you don't know other that's you're not doing your job in my opinion

[00:38:21] um as an artist I'm totally like like a like a culture wall like that guy's on a on a ranch in

[00:38:28] Texas or Canada and he's not listening to anything I don't even know guy has electricity

[00:38:33] he won't even go on Joe you won't go on Joe Rogan's podcast he doesn't do interviews Joe Rogan the

[00:38:38] biggest podcast in the world bigger than the center night live bigger than anything that he could

[00:38:41] put his music out to nine you know no but I think eventually culture will we'll we'll do it I think

[00:38:48] he'll I look forward to you know I think that's part of the people want to know him okay

[00:38:58] yeah and and what's wrong with it with somebody keeping closed I mean like I know it makes

[00:39:04] us so much more interesting correct you know I mean you don't I mean I grew up wondering what it

[00:39:11] was like to hang out with George straight I still don't know you know and I still wonder I think

[00:39:17] that's part of me and you know podcast are as as beneficial as they are the opposite sometimes

[00:39:28] you know but I think that uh you know I can't say that I think that there's something wrong with

[00:39:37] the way that guy's thinking over that because I don't you're sitting here talking about him

[00:39:42] right I mean that's a dream podcast right Wes what is it George ran a forge

[00:39:47] George straight George George straight on a porch

[00:39:50] seven or eight years to Keela yeah all right we that's good oh I love it yeah we have it at the

[00:39:57] house so it's so smooth oh yeah what was I don't know Randy Rogers uh was it Randy

[00:40:05] Randy and we had funny Randy and we the off story where like pronounced the rosé they call

[00:40:11] their rosé yeah then he said rosé and he just walked away or something he looked like cool as hell

[00:40:17] like cool as hell I think Randy went up to him and was like hey George I really love your rosé

[00:40:21] tequila and he was just like straight faced it's Rosa and then just walked away but like

[00:40:29] fucking with them because they're not messing with them not being a dick he was just messing with

[00:40:34] yeah I mean but you know anybody gets bad I say about that dude try to know he was

[00:40:41] he just seems like a Ronnie Delby talking about earlier that's what the image I have of

[00:40:46] George like they say don't be your heroes but I I'm so confident if you meet George he's that guy

[00:40:52] like he's the guy you think he is smooth as silk wait wait steady floats Wade said he just

[00:40:58] yeah yeah like he doesn't walk it kind of floats I bet you know I've I've never got to meet him

[00:41:06] I've you know there's some beer joints that I've played were like you know Leroy the bus driver

[00:41:13] there's a place called the cotton club where you can if anytime going there watch watch

[00:41:19] bubble cocks in the can hardly play boys play and Leroy is the drummer yeah but he's bus

[00:41:27] he's the bus driver for George straight well like somebody like Abe manual fiddle player

[00:41:34] played for Haggard and everybody Cajun Cajun Cat Abe manual and he's got a brother

[00:41:43] oh god god he plays for straight right now plays the kooza guitar for straight right now I can't

[00:41:48] I can't for the life of me remember his name and I'm gonna get in trouble with that but

[00:41:54] we'll be saying in a top in this beer joint you know one of the greatest fiddle players that you know

[00:42:04] played yeah just hanging out beer joint you run into it's a he was it yeah I was going to

[00:42:10] place it's your manual yeah buddy yeah buddy yeah

[00:42:18] buddy that's a that's on a guitar playing so s o b but that's it that's right yeah I could play

[00:42:28] a you know I just wrote here in stores about those kind of people most kind of people were like

[00:42:36] people I look forward to meeting growing up because you got to get to one of those ball I don't

[00:42:42] like I don't know if you're a golfer or not I don't know if you're a golfer or not but like

[00:42:46] do you hear me yep yep my hearing oh yeah I don't know if you were a golfer but I was like

[00:42:52] George's that golf thing we were just talking about so I was like you got to find a way to get

[00:42:56] into that next year whenever the next one is he listens to your music he's gonna let you

[00:43:01] you're invited I can promise you that well you know I don't I think it's kind of crazy to think

[00:43:10] he'd be listening to anything I ever done you know I'm listening to what he's already dead you know

[00:43:19] I don't know I was surprising sometimes like I don't know what interview was with Alan Jackson

[00:43:24] not that long ago and he was talking about like what he listened soon it's or even Timmer grime

[00:43:30] think like when when an artist like that from that kind of genre from that time frame 90s on

[00:43:38] they have like kids then they start like the kids kind of help I feel like craft they get older

[00:43:43] they're teenagers they're older so maybe they're hanging out with their kids on a holiday

[00:43:48] whatever at the house and they start playing the newer stuff then I think those guys go oh yeah

[00:43:54] okay and then that's how they kind of get into it that's a kind of like a theory I have but

[00:43:58] because I don't know if the like as Alan Jackson sitting there on Spotify probably not I think

[00:44:03] Ronnie Dunn Ronnie Dunn's daughter played him Cody Johnson oh yeah he was like oh cowboy from

[00:44:10] Texas like you got to hear this Cody Johnson guy and his daughter showed him and he became my

[00:44:18] first Cody Johnson concert I was just talking about this today I was in high school in the

[00:44:23] Port Texas the way of this thing called Sylvie's Festival he was opening up for for Kevin Fowler

[00:44:31] this is before I was on divorce or any of that shit it's like a I might have just had my

[00:44:36] drivers license or something you know I'm like 16 years old but he was open up for Kevin Fowler and

[00:44:43] nobody you know he was new and he wasn't he'd already been around but he was new and uh

[00:44:52] Kevin Fowler I mean I don't know if you're been to a Kevin Fowler show but if you ain't never

[00:44:58] been to a Kevin Fowler show you need to go it's one of the best I mean he's a livin walking giant

[00:45:07] anyways Cody opened up for him right there in my hometown show where they used to show their

[00:45:12] animals for the F and Fade livestock show you know it was right there off the beach and uh

[00:45:18] in the port of Houston not like palm trees and shit I'm talking just man made beach with

[00:45:25] with shipping containers out there in the water you know and here you can catch good fish on food not

[00:45:31] malibu yeah love port Texas you know uh but man I'll never forget that concert watching that

[00:45:43] that stage you know that's him and meach festival such a you know you played that or the

[00:45:47] the past scene in rodeo and that's like you know whoever was on that stage was important man we

[00:45:53] went home and after that show and and listen it was Cody Johnson put out that different a different

[00:46:00] there's a record called a different uh a different time or I think or different subs it had

[00:46:07] dominant in my pocket you all right yeah I love that song a different day different day a different

[00:46:15] day Zane Williams wrote wrote down in my pocket and uh I mean that was huge and that was huge for us

[00:46:24] and uh uh uh demo Jesse Rob Jr. was a local rider out of Texas that that Cody come up with and

[00:46:34] and he had cuts on that record and he's continued to have cuts on all of Cody's records and

[00:46:39] and to me that's uh that's a that's a testament to who that guy is in the kind of music they make

[00:46:46] and and what they're about you know and uh it don't matter who you are it's about the song

[00:46:50] and yeah and for me to experience a Cody Johnson uprise just in Texas and not even know

[00:46:57] what was happening he was well you're next I think you're next I think you're the next the next one

[00:47:03] I will be proud I will be proud to share the stage I will be proud to uh I'm

[00:47:14] I'm saying the hobby you know that as this ain't something I just do for fun you know it's

[00:47:19] all I know and and those guys are the same way yeah and then uh and so many of us are

[00:47:28] um and that people like like yourself for them support us by sharing our stories and our songs it

[00:47:36] means a lot awesome last last thing before we leave you go and the stay-offers they're gonna have

[00:47:41] a question if you off the off the recording but the new album every obviously we kind of

[00:47:46] talked about it a little bit but just in general with the with the tours and what the fans have to

[00:47:51] look forward to the rest of the year um new album has been awesome streaming it like crazy and

[00:48:00] we're posting a lot about it but just kind of what's your your thoughts about the rest of the

[00:48:04] year and kind of like the initial reaction from the fans on your uh on your debut album there

[00:48:12] you know what uh wait we're gonna give them something to dance to something to drink to something to

[00:48:17] cry to and uh something to enjoy I hope you know I'm I'm gonna you know my situation at the moment

[00:48:27] you know it's it's a it's a brand new these are new waters for me uh I've never

[00:48:33] be called I've not put a record together until now and let alone be proud of the songs that we cut

[00:48:41] be proud of what I got there and singing do do something with the label with with the conglomerate

[00:48:48] with with with with the team and people and all that all that good stuff that we all know makes the

[00:48:54] world turn uh I can I'm proud I'm proud of what we did and you know uh I played I played hundreds of

[00:49:03] nights a lot more than that but uh you know there's nobody to listen to it or there wasn't there

[00:49:12] or what you know nothing but a chance that maybe I'll do something you know I was saying something

[00:49:18] that uh that might strike a strike a chord with somebody but you know now it's we've got

[00:49:25] music out now now people have something to on and uh I don't think I don't think the delivery

[00:49:33] changes at all I think just now we're gonna keep playing themselves and and right you know

[00:49:40] what we might be playing who knows little we haven't been in by September you know or October

[00:49:46] the later on in the year you know song gear road every day yeah and a lot of songs don't

[00:49:52] a lot of songs don't get road there's a lot of days nothing happens and uh you know you just can't

[00:50:00] think about that you know so we're gonna play country music we make country music I've seen

[00:50:04] country music and that's exactly what you're gonna hear when you come out see this

[00:50:15] yeah

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[00:50:27] or if you're tailgating right now all those cars doubling as kitchens and living rooms are on auto

[00:50:32] trader too are you working out and listening to this ad at the same time well multitasking pro cars

[00:50:38] like the ones in the gym parking lot are for sale on auto trader new cars use cars electric cars

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