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[00:02:12] See this we saw it come across our deaths. Like he said, the names on their turnpike

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[00:02:26] listeners in Man-Royne to be a part of it for sure in a band from Lubbock, Texas you

[00:02:31] know what I mean to especially in part of a music festival out there in California like

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[00:02:49] Do you have a turn down a lot of festivals? Is that like a thing you said it comes across

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[00:03:00] anything yeah why not how does that work?

[00:03:03] It used to be I meant that more time in cheek we used to be that way where we went

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[00:03:17] you guys got an offer to play this really dope festival and we're just like like let's

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[00:03:26] It feels like festivals in general are just as fun for the artists, the acts, the bands

[00:03:32] just as fun as them for you know people coming through because we get to see other shows

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[00:03:53] and then going out to California where it feels good and then just that whole Americana

[00:03:59] diversity um that's happening out there it's pretty great.

[00:04:03] Yeah we'll have a we'll have like a merged head there for the people that are gone so hopefully

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[00:04:38] Um I'm speaking of kind of earlier in the year and some of the stuff you've done uh Luke

[00:04:45] Holmes I think is done a really good job for being as massive he is in the mainstream

[00:04:49] kind of taking acts even he just announced some new ones for his upcoming leg but you guys

[00:04:55] were with him and he Wilson really green Brent Cobb.

[00:04:59] I was almost worked on North American leg of his 2023 World Tour.

[00:05:03] What was that like working with him and that kind of size of those crowds being on the

[00:05:10] road out there with Luke?

[00:05:13] It was uh cheerly amazing and that's learned so much it also went by like this you know

[00:05:20] it's like we started off in Cowboy Stadium on March 25th which for us was like you know

[00:05:25] we could have ended the tour there too that's that's like just getting across up a

[00:05:28] lot.

[00:05:29] Yeah that's amazing.

[00:05:30] I don't feel like a hundred thousand how many people fit in there?

[00:05:33] What the stage I guess you got to kind of remove some maybe but yeah I think that the

[00:05:36] cap was like at 60k or something like that I think the placeholds like 100 or whatever

[00:05:42] but um has that had that many Cowboys fans shut up to Sam's watch?

[00:05:46] I don't know.

[00:05:48] It was everything's every year.

[00:05:50] Everything's every year.

[00:05:51] Every every every year is their year right it's the yeah.

[00:05:55] Great probably did like a hundred thousand there no maybe in my raw.

[00:06:00] She got man I had nice idea.

[00:06:02] Well I think I think he did because he had the circle stage in the middle.

[00:06:06] I don't know.

[00:06:07] Yeah.

[00:06:08] Yeah it's all good.

[00:06:11] But that's for the tour started off and over the course of I mean 17 dates and X amount

[00:06:18] of weeks or whatever but over 17 weekends kind of got to know Luke and their camp you

[00:06:23] know a lot more and the band is really good guys and their whole team and really kind

[00:06:29] of us.

[00:06:30] We try to do our part and we play 25 minutes and just get people excited to see Lanywell

[00:06:34] soon you know what I mean?

[00:06:36] Just kind of get to befriend everybody slowly but surely and just learn from each other

[00:06:42] because everyone's out there doing the same thing and obviously people are further along

[00:06:46] and at different opportunities and stuff.

[00:06:47] And so anytime that we got a moment to hang out with Luke and think of that nature he

[00:06:53] was always very me cool.

[00:06:57] Give you give you a all of this time I mean I mean that there was a couple moments where

[00:07:02] I had a accident to meet my brother or something and I was like hey man this guy's this is

[00:07:08] my brother to be the CPA dude like he encouraged me to like not be a CPA until like do this

[00:07:13] and I'm like in the middle tell him this you know stories just go get him dude and I'm

[00:07:17] like alright.

[00:07:18] I hate to be that guy.

[00:07:19] Yeah and he talked to him for like I mean almost 10 minutes and just he's just that kind

[00:07:26] of guy you know I mean it's a totally grateful that we had the opportunity and you know

[00:07:31] it was a challenge as far as playing it's not we get 25 minutes so you get like 5 or 6

[00:07:37] 5 to 7 songs or something to try to make a splash but like I said our job is to get people

[00:07:43] excited and ready for works coming up next and to show what we do you know so it was truly

[00:07:48] a grand opportunity and all the while we're doing our North American tour as well so

[00:07:54] it's kind of the best of both world men it's been a and here we are in August already

[00:07:58] it's like where did it go you know yeah what's it like crap in a set list for like 25 minutes

[00:08:04] are you mixing it up a lot each night or you kind of just running with your same 5 6 7 songs.

[00:08:11] We changed it up quite a bit almost like we can I mean we had some songs that just seem

[00:08:15] to be good openers and stuff and how we want to close the show but just I mean it's

[00:08:20] it's really challenging man I mean it's like how do you how do you make a lasting impression

[00:08:25] you get I mean it's 25 minutes you know usually but like I said I want to discount that

[00:08:31] you know I mean I feel like we gave it our best and try to be creative and I felt like

[00:08:34] it was good we already knew that you know Luke's Luke's got the heaters too you know

[00:08:38] like it's it's high energy stuff and you know there's half of our set you know is the lonely

[00:08:45] the sad songs the stuff you know easy on the ears heavy on the heart as we say so we kind

[00:08:51] of knew into it just like let's 25 minutes let's let's throw some heaters it's the summer

[00:08:57] people are out there on the drink beer jump around a little bit so we kind of start off

[00:09:01] with that and then just saw everywhere through the country as we were going you know what

[00:09:06] worked you know what didn't in Chicago at soldier field we played a see on three pounds

[00:09:12] Chicago yeah and just just just to give it to the crowd but yeah we take it to your question

[00:09:19] or just yeah how does that what is that works I think it's great for like the highlight

[00:09:25] when he has a bunch of like the artist he picked or who if you're going to cover a song

[00:09:31] like that in a city like Chicago where what's that both used to were we found whiskey

[00:09:35] riffing came from you have to like run it by anybody performing after you like hey

[00:09:42] were were you planning on doing this because we say the cups won a game and you wanted

[00:09:46] to sing go cups go I don't know if you've been a really field ever but if the cup is

[00:09:50] when they take this song call go cups go from back in the day so like you want to do something

[00:09:54] like that but there's a couple artists after you you got to be like hey hey by the way and

[00:09:58] they're like I was going to do it is that ever happened or no I never thought of that

[00:10:02] that's it's been done to us so many times we're like oh shit we got to play we can't

[00:10:06] play country roots and not all the way it is so it's like and then that ephemism

[00:10:11] that's better to ask for forgiveness than permission I guess or it's easier to so it's like

[00:10:15] I mean yeah but also your point I never even considered to ask I didn't either I'm

[00:10:22] nobody else but I'm blanking West we did an article maybe it was like a historical post

[00:10:27] from back in the day but somebody opened to piss off their opener they saying the

[00:10:31] openers George Jones was opening for Buck Owens I believe while back obviously and

[00:10:40] wanted to headline and Buck was like get the hell out of here what do you mean you want

[00:10:45] a headline like I you open up I go on afterwards like that's how it is shut up so George

[00:10:52] was like I'm gonna learn his entire set and I'm gonna go out there and sing every one of his songs

[00:10:57] and that's what he did yeah that was the last time he opened up for Buck Owens

[00:11:04] that is do you that that's a legend and expert legendary story though I believe Tracy Lawrence

[00:11:11] told that story on Justin Moore's podcast I was looking for so shut up Justin Moore's podcast

[00:11:18] oh yeah he's not your body pal so yeah go on learn a Luke's whole set and then just

[00:11:26] well apparently really George Jones regretted it according to this article title of ours but yeah

[00:11:34] yeah I guess you guys got to make sure don't don't pull that I guess but you also opened a few

[00:11:42] shows for for one of the I mean I think a lot of people would put them on the Mount Rushmore

[00:11:48] of country music Willie Nelson did you get the chance to get to know him at all or if not even just

[00:11:55] saying hello like what did that feel like there was your first time meeting Willie I don't know if it

[00:11:59] wasn't at those are first time meeting him we absolutely respected you know their privacy and you

[00:12:06] know his age and wellness and all that stuff and so we were pretty much the rule of thumb was like

[00:12:13] don't don't get near and don't touch him but I guess it worked out because we got to meet him second

[00:12:23] to last show before the tour was over if we can or something and I don't remember him sit I was

[00:12:30] kind of like in shock when it's happening it's like one of those things that could go back and be

[00:12:34] like dang it dude like he you weren't as present as you could have been you know but I was just in shock

[00:12:39] oh towards us and he sticks his hand at us and shakes our hand I don't think he said anything

[00:12:45] but his expression in his face were like like nice to meet you and like thank you for being here

[00:12:51] you know I mean it's like we're like like can this is going on you know like in Oracle or something

[00:12:56] you know just came with some weird dog didn't even say anything and we're just

[00:13:01] that's great for you yeah yeah that truly you know as far as me personal and I'm sure you I'm not

[00:13:10] sure how you feel it's like getting to meet him or even to get to play on the same stage as him

[00:13:15] dude he was walking on and he embodied us to come up and sing every night like something but I

[00:13:21] remember until you know I'm not usual Lord willing it's like it's one of those things I was

[00:13:25] hoping would happen you know in our career at some point and I'm not sure who was uh you know

[00:13:32] reading my diary or whatever anything like that but it became the past man and so yeah

[00:13:38] and God bless Willie D's he's still doing it man his set still dope and he's playing the song

[00:13:43] from the heart and soul and you're remember a like a cool anecdote kind of goes with this the first

[00:13:50] show a second show we did with them was in Dallas, Texas and all of our family and stuff came out

[00:13:56] and stuff and like my my uncles and aunts my feels and Diaz from far west Texas came out and they

[00:14:02] were like I got to have moment with them and they were like we always wondered if uh you whatever

[00:14:08] if Willie would ever sing a duet with you but then like that was something I was always thinking about

[00:14:13] at home and then here we are come watching you and you're on the same stage with them and you're

[00:14:16] singing the bgb's like to the crowd and it's just like it's just like creating those moments that

[00:14:22] you remember forever you know that are really special I think that's what Willie has attached to

[00:14:26] his name like Willie Nelson and family you know it feels like a family thing and I remember crying

[00:14:33] after hearing it we play uh always on my mind just what's he called when it happens to you don't have a

[00:14:40] it was like a response or reaction and I can contain it it was like and well is it due to

[00:14:46] the fact that you started oh yeah he's in the crazy thing is um man he's he's dotted on stage

[00:14:53] he's he's up there he's playing trigger uh his guitar yeah I mean it's it sounds so iconic

[00:15:00] because it's it's plugged in it's got some sort of pickup that gives it a little bit of distortion

[00:15:04] just the hint of it and either way it's it's iconic it sounds fantastic he's over there just

[00:15:10] playing jazzy uh his son Micah accompanies him as well and you know they're playing off back and forth

[00:15:17] and it's it's easily the coolest campfire I've ever been to that's what it felt like like in Dallas

[00:15:23] 20,000 people um but no one's saying a peep everyone's listening uh and it was yeah just

[00:15:31] sitting down like a campfire and it was something I'll never forget either so killing that's

[00:15:38] the kind of artist like different as said way until like I think we had a question from like your

[00:15:42] craziest concert moment from a fan but there's certain names where like if they're playing and people

[00:15:48] are being loud and weird and like it's a certain song it's willy and I was like focused

[00:15:54] I'm like I can't imagine some of the clips we've shared of at concerts where it's like you know

[00:15:58] people are fighting and drunk and this guy gets hit and whatever they're throwing stuff it's like

[00:16:03] with willy I just gotta imagine everybody goes in there and it's just like this aura of like

[00:16:07] all right be on your best behavior I hope that was the case but with you guys in general with

[00:16:12] your with your kind of growing success and everything and these massive shows and your personal shows

[00:16:17] and you had any crazy moments because there was a lot of stuff going on recently about people throwing

[00:16:22] stuff and been in the news um if that's always happened I find it a little weird by the way I'm like

[00:16:28] we've always like seen that people send a stuff and then all of a sudden this year because like

[00:16:32] Taylor Swift got something thrown at her every time you were like so yeah I'm just like so

[00:16:38] but I remember seeing a lot of this that stuff been countryed from from years ago we posted but

[00:16:42] when you guys had any bad where you're like holy shit this is this is rony this is a little

[00:16:48] weren't expecting this or better bad

[00:16:51] but it's really impressive what was an occasion most more recently was uh whenever

[00:16:59] back in 2021 we played at nutty brown amphitheater and off it's no longer there they turned

[00:17:03] it to an hd parking lot but uh it was a historic venue there in Texas and it was like post-COVID

[00:17:10] and stuff and I was like seated kind of show or whatever but yeah people would stand up and you know

[00:17:18] we're feeling it especially during the song you'd play a devil off my back which is kind of angsty

[00:17:22] and stuff and uh there's a part we haven't played it in a while but like we play it and I would just

[00:17:28] diamond the cord and kind of just sit there and that's the band's Q waiting like when are we going

[00:17:33] to come back in but I never I never like sing the part or something I got lost in the sauce if

[00:17:38] they say and I'm just kind of dude we're hanging on this fucking moment and it keeps going and

[00:17:45] no one knows where it's gonna go because they're waiting on me and I think I'm waiting on then

[00:17:49] but then all of a sudden I think people out there in the crowd you didn't know it was going on

[00:17:53] the songs like they're waiting for the the like the course to get out yeah that's what it was

[00:17:57] fiddle solo so like all of a sudden people started fighting there was a fight in the crowd

[00:18:03] during that moment I think and I would attribute part of that fight to towards my fall I guess

[00:18:09] because it went on so long that I guess people were just like give it to me right

[00:18:14] and you're giving me a grip and don't knock out the end so much like the music that is

[00:18:20] prepared it always happens when you're like in a in a venue with too many people and then someone

[00:18:27] is you know getting back to their spot after getting a beer and someone just elbow someone

[00:18:32] and it's late at night and then they elbow harder and you're like hey that was my girl and then

[00:18:36] it just comes back and then boom you have a fight right so it's I feel like with every

[00:18:42] large gathering like that um to a certain extent it's it's gonna happen at one point or another

[00:18:49] especially when it's hot in the summer it's usually rare that it doesn't happen that our show is

[00:18:54] off and you know I mean we're pretty pretty chill pretty tame sing love songs we're all about you

[00:19:00] know love each other all that stuff so it's it is uncommon you know what I mean it's not like a

[00:19:05] go-to flat-land show if you want to get a beer throwing that to your getting to a fist fight but

[00:19:09] I know all these happened dude yeah and just let me go ahead start out that no I just like we've

[00:19:16] shared so many of these as like Sturgels covering uh I'm blanking on it but like a very like

[00:19:21] emotional song at one country years ago and small venue and people started fighting and he

[00:19:25] like stops to treat like how the fuck are you gonna fight when I'm singing this song maybe jump

[00:19:30] on Brian maybe he was covering yeah I don't it was what it was it was it was I think it was a cover

[00:19:35] for sure and it was like you see it you're just like whoa and then your the whole elbow thing that's

[00:19:40] so true like yeah we're pat like past the age where you know you're going to the bars you guys

[00:19:47] are just like the douchey guys walking by and doing the old but I'm looking back at like going

[00:19:52] to Cubs games in Chicago and stuff and people are drunk by off their ass by 11 o'clock

[00:19:58] morning but because the game starts at 120 and you're just like that whole like oh I'm not going

[00:20:04] to move I'm gonna like stiffen up when you're trying to get by my my seats right there then it's like

[00:20:10] and then now with college football starting and uh in the NFL we were already getting some

[00:20:15] there's people in the preseason of football getting in brawl who we posted some articles so it's

[00:20:21] just they say fuck there guys I don't know it doesn't remind me of one story uh from the

[00:20:27] lute tour we're in Edmonton Canada which I've never been there I don't know much about it uh but

[00:20:33] it's very far north I heard there's a lot of like oil or rigors a lot of wilderness people like

[00:20:39] the burly guy yeah their tough man and uh I did see a couple fights I've been to pit right and uh

[00:20:46] and it's so far north that towards the end of Luke set the sun is still up so you can see everything

[00:20:51] and it's like 10 pm and everyone's been on it for a while right and uh I think he's uh he's singing

[00:21:02] long neck ice cold beer long neck ice cold beer no but why and uh and once out of the stadium just like

[00:21:10] cheers during this low part you kind of look over there and someone is uh someone's you know going

[00:21:16] on a knee to uh propose they propose during that song which is hilarious for one uh the people

[00:21:24] fighting in front of me they look they stop fighting and then they look for a second and then they

[00:21:30] stop fighting just because of that certain just like these people are the wall is bro

[00:21:37] people that's a lot of deep north yeah of course we have like but I just feel like there's tough

[00:21:43] towns uh Pittsburgh was another tough town you just a good blue collar town where uh we're sitting

[00:21:48] side on side stage and people are just jumping over just in these side stage and security's taken

[00:21:55] home and uh but I mean it's it's high energy stuff over uh and in Luke's you know set um but yeah

[00:22:02] I feel like there's always gonna be that luckily there's luckily there's you know guys like

[00:22:10] can and if you have security guards instead of kind of just sweeping away it's like I would

[00:22:15] imagine 99.99% of people are not trying to get no flab when they go out there and you know

[00:22:20] yeah yeah like I said boozing for three hours before show starts or however it gets

[00:22:25] the new federal concert and you're getting drunk and you're having a good time you spend money

[00:22:30] and all this stuff maybe you had to get a babysitter whatever you have a kid

[00:22:35] it's like to know that route it's just like crazy to me and maybe I'm just like

[00:22:39] if you're like an old soul now I'm old there's five but I can't pull out

[00:22:42] I'm so I backed out during an Allen Jackson concert once like I didn't even make it to Allen

[00:22:47] it was Chris Young who was there was a middle per Josh turn oh yeah Josh Turner yeah

[00:22:54] and I blacked out in the middle of Josh Turner didn't even see how get to the stage

[00:22:59] and it's just like I don't even know if I've seen Allen's then so it was like yeah it'll probably

[00:23:05] be like the biggest regret about life at some point hey was was was Josh Turner playing long black

[00:23:11] train you just blacked out there and well I'm black out train and it was I mean we were I was like

[00:23:18] 21 or something 22 this would be for it was here if yeah yeah yeah long before that and like

[00:23:24] I don't it's just like you know so it's like what do you you look back on that and what are you

[00:23:27] doing and I imagine there's a lot of people who are kind of me at that age and you know

[00:23:32] 15 years later you're kind of well yeah there's what were you described you know something comes

[00:23:40] to mind of like going to a concert and I used to feel it but there's still sometimes like

[00:23:46] a going to room I had a conversation with our bus driver one time with like I used to go

[00:23:50] into like a restaurant take anything of what we do out of this like oh someone recognized you

[00:23:57] or knows you're anything I don't know if that has any effect on it or where but I just

[00:24:01] I used to like be afraid of like going in social settings at social anxiety and now I just

[00:24:07] I don't know I just see us all as human beings like I think the writing songs are playing on stage

[00:24:11] and realizing that oh people fill these emotions too like we're all the same you know it means like

[00:24:15] I don't have that fear anymore more times than not but I think that they're you know there are some

[00:24:22] social anxiety plates apart both go people out in the crowd you know like oh man like I'm in

[00:24:29] this big thing when really it should feel like we're all together we're all together you know

[00:24:33] there should be no division you know what I mean but those other substances getting away and stuff

[00:24:38] and you kind of lose sight of all that stuff and so instead of happening but I don't know that's one

[00:24:43] thing I want to try to be as frontman on stage like making people feel comfortable hey man have a

[00:24:49] good time don't get don't get your ass kicked or someone don't kick someone else's ass let's just

[00:24:54] let's try to make it through this thing you know without a story like that or whatever but

[00:24:59] all right I don't know that kind of came to mom when you're saying that um if that's it

[00:25:04] I'm talking about it. What is it different from like a private show we were talking a little bit

[00:25:08] before we got on about you guys doing a private show and and Steve's neck of the woods and like

[00:25:12] we've talked with you know a bunch of different artists about private shows here and there like park

[00:25:16] and McCallum and I imagine sometimes it's like weird because people just like are like who's

[00:25:22] what's going on over there there there's like a full band and it's like I don't maybe they're not

[00:25:26] familiar with the music or maybe it's a corporate event where it's like we actually mean Steve wants

[00:25:32] to see whiskey Myers not want to see we went with whiskey Myers to a Miller Miller light like corporate

[00:25:38] event and nobody in the room was like who is everyone in the room was like who is this what's going on

[00:25:44] and we're like guys Cody can and singing a fucking acoustic show shut your mouth and pay attention

[00:25:50] and nobody there was like they just couldn't care less. It has like 25 year old girls at work there

[00:25:54] they're just like talking about their plans for after they leave the office like you could just

[00:25:58] feel it I was like come on. He's like he's singing stone and you're just like come on people

[00:26:04] where's your soul um if you had like what's it like how does that differ obviously you played

[00:26:09] major stadium was played with Willie you know your own massive tours that you guys sell out and then

[00:26:16] how does that kind of like the opposite end of the spectrum. Like like playing and people talking

[00:26:22] like you're saying or like just kind of like not being attuned to what what's going on again. Yeah

[00:26:26] just like the private show when somebody books you at like a you know their own kind of event

[00:26:31] that's a separate thing that's not open to the public but kind of what's that experience like

[00:26:36] sure yeah uh another story comes to mind the guy that made this new record that we're

[00:26:43] released in later this year since the white baker he was telling me that he played an

[00:26:47] event for some mega corporation Microsoft Apple somebody and he he it was a breakfast event

[00:26:53] or something and they didn't play very well to be there and he said same thing no one it's

[00:27:00] he might as well have been invisible or something word no it's less than comfortable and at that

[00:27:05] point yeah it's like you almost like you're in a bad dream or something but it's like he's like hey dude

[00:27:09] I played my songs and sang the best I could and and maybe you don't do the small top thing in

[00:27:15] between maybe you're just like whatever but he's like they still you know paid me to be there so

[00:27:20] I give my best but you're right there is a I I still try to figure out how to do those uh

[00:27:26] private events can't be strange but like like we just played one literally just lost speaking on

[00:27:32] tandem uh for the second time we got it last year it's on this amazing property it's literally a

[00:27:39] homestead the project's called the homestead and really nice people up there that are

[00:27:44] like their dream and they they invited us to come out there and play a show and

[00:27:50] the same thing you're talking about no one knows who we are no one I mean they know who we are but

[00:27:54] everybody else and it's like and you kind of get those insecure feelings do they care whatever

[00:27:59] it's like hey dude they're we're here to deploy our songs into they they asked us to be here so

[00:28:05] like I'm pointing to these people and everyone else I think it's just the matter of like

[00:28:11] trying to put it in peoples and their terms like someone that why should I listen to you guy

[00:28:16] that's you know don't be preached at or is it like hey man this hey guy that's like stirring your

[00:28:21] Cheerios over there during the breakfast gig the song is about uh that feeling or whatever and

[00:28:26] they might be more inclined to listen but uh yeah sometimes those private shows feel like you're on

[00:28:31] a different planet but I just there's something within me being optimistic looking at the glass

[00:28:36] half full of like there's gotta be a way to make this thing feel like a party you know what I mean

[00:28:41] and I don't think it's something we keep trying to scratch the itch or figure out maybe maybe

[00:28:46] we book you for something whiskey rift does one day and then hey pay you better than you've

[00:28:51] been paid for one of those things and then we make sure we bring the energy and it's just

[00:28:59] well yeah because we all like love your music and know you guys versus google or somewhere without

[00:29:05] the show now man that'd be awesome but definitely we've got to be a lot of fun and I mean I better

[00:29:11] just sounds uncomfortable yeah I would be so but everybody has to be jack through the roof like

[00:29:17] everybody's gotta be like ripping shots like okay here they come to guys like let's go let's play

[00:29:22] there's no we're not we're not doing cheerios

[00:29:26] and now do that be a lot fun that there's a concept that kind of comes to mind of like

[00:29:31] that I read I learned about in the book of like either married to your audience or you're dating

[00:29:36] them and in the scenarios but like this is a private if it's flatline cabri sold out show

[00:29:42] we're married to audience man I can go out there and play my kazoo for the first song if I want to

[00:29:46] because people are there to see us but it's like and then you know the dating your audience scenario

[00:29:51] it's like do you walk into someone maybe don't know and give them a big kiss on the cheek or do you

[00:29:55] say hello you know and shake their hand and like I think there's a process in these social you

[00:30:01] know interactions that were all involved in that I think add up to something like hey I

[00:30:06] care that you're here thank you for being here below this is who I am like it's a

[00:30:10] it's a respect thing I guess yeah it's like reading someone else like close down to it how do

[00:30:15] you have fun on a first day you know I guess talking but when it comes to a show I guess only

[00:30:21] one person's really talking you know the yeah or saying anything you know they're listening so

[00:30:27] it's like how do you read the room you know and just kind of dig into your bag of trip

[00:30:32] tricks you know right yeah for me weird for for us to I met did you sit in the back of the classroom

[00:30:40] that couldn't be a good time for you guys that sat in the back of the classroom growing up

[00:30:45] it's pretty ironic how we made it to the probably cloud out so I guess you know this is a humor but

[00:30:52] at the end of the day like we were talking about full circle being kind to another respects

[00:30:55] each other making each other feel welcome and if people receive that and they do and if they don't

[00:31:00] then I've also heard like a 3% of people will never like you no matter what you do so it's like

[00:31:08] there is a greater whole you know a good out there that's put take more of our attention span yeah

[00:31:14] yeah right you mentioned a new album kind of in passing at that last one what do you guys got

[00:31:22] cooking this the rest of the I know a new single coming out secondly tomorrow it'll be it'll be

[00:31:27] out once this podcast goes live so we're looking at a new album like what's what's what's what we

[00:31:34] got going on here yeah we have a new album in the in our back pocket we're gonna put it out later

[00:31:40] this year can't stay exactly just when at the moment because I don't know I should know this but

[00:31:45] I don't but it's gonna be we have three we have obviously you coming out on August 25th and then

[00:31:53] that third single it's gonna drop later in September and then we hope to put out the record sometime

[00:31:58] between now for the years over so um it always this whole everything we're doing man plan shows

[00:32:08] we can get lost in the touring aspect and like who we played with all this stuff and then there's

[00:32:13] the making of the music and getting in the studio and birthing it and all that stuff which is

[00:32:18] it's like the most important part but it also less it's so small and the span of time as far as

[00:32:25] like we were in the studio for two weeks uh in Austin earlier in March and it's like everything

[00:32:32] hinges upon is built upon that but no one ever gets to see it but luckily for you know everyone

[00:32:37] out there's listening to their fans and stuff we had to you know document documentarians are

[00:32:43] going to call them they don't think they they they recorded the whole process and everything all

[00:32:48] of our all of our shenanigans the ups and downs highs and lows just having a good time there wasn't

[00:32:53] any lows but no I can't thank you Vinnie it was it was a great process two weeks of just living

[00:32:59] at the studio um and just steam what these songs could be um not really even overthinking too much

[00:33:06] and that's how music should be I feel like it's uh it was a good time but and like you said something

[00:33:13] in our back pocket and uh kind of you just waiting to wait in the play for everyone yeah man

[00:33:19] awesome what's it like they're over when you're ready yeah yeah we have right man yeah all right for

[00:33:25] sure now uh we have we can give you a pinky something you can do a pinky promise over the phone

[00:33:30] can't share it to anybody but uh you can send you a preview before it comes out for sure oh yeah

[00:33:36] for sure um and then right before we let you go one fan question kind of just go back to kind of

[00:33:41] just uh the uh the drinking stuff because fans always want to know hangover cures do you have a

[00:33:48] ritual pre-show or do you have like a go-to drink and and then if you if you kind of over serve

[00:33:53] yourself so to speak do you guys have a a hangover cure before you guys hit the hit the next show

[00:33:59] I hit the road again so so wait you said first a pre-reach ritual

[00:34:07] they have a ritual or a or a go-to drink for a show and then if if you kind of do it too

[00:34:12] you have a few too many do you have a hangover cure we usually do a shot at Keela or some kind of spirit

[00:34:19] I mean spent to Keela lately uh just before the show not everyone yet it's kind of it's it's

[00:34:26] all right you know it's cleaner and it's kind of a stand-up I guess but uh we uh we do that for

[00:34:32] the show a sale of prayer even before all that stuff starts like our piano player Adam G

[00:34:39] I just discounted he does a lot more than play piano he plays the last step but

[00:34:44] he's using the backlamps breathing dude just yeah 15 minutes whim Hof breathing I would say

[00:34:51] before the show just whim Hof yeah yeah brother just you know getting I got a ice barrel back here

[00:34:58] hi that's dope man I wish they could one of these days maybe we can bring that to you

[00:35:02] out on the road so it's like just your clothes you're wearing this up and you know then what's that

[00:35:10] no I go you bring one of those on the road I'm like you guys are very close you're gonna have

[00:35:14] your whole your whole your whole your whole your whole bus with a spa and a sauna and uh

[00:35:23] yeah dude we'll make sure and let you know the passcode so you can come on

[00:35:29] yeah dude so we like try to raise our uh you know just at least me personally try to breathe

[00:35:35] you know get yourself up to snuff and feel good and then we usually say a little prayer take a shot

[00:35:42] eela uh Jason Yuji says the prayer just pretty much more or less like you know hey let's all be

[00:35:50] we're all there for each other let's all be present on stage let's have a good time and read

[00:35:54] Dylan our guitar player will be like we usually break it out one two three you know whatever it

[00:35:59] might be 90% of the time it's loose and colorful which we got from a john mayor documentary

[00:36:05] the john mayor trio yeah loose and colorful so we'll say something that's like hey like this is

[00:36:09] what we're gonna do on stage just be loose because of full and then play the show and if we do

[00:36:14] have too much uh yeah what is it what's your name over gravity sleep that's usually the best

[00:36:23] just to sleep through it but if I can't um like probably like a workout of some sort or uh

[00:36:34] yeah a workout of some sort catch it catch a w for the day um and just or just uh sit outside in

[00:36:40] the summer and just sweat or uh that sounds like the two things you don't want to do is be in the sun

[00:36:46] and the y'all hot it's kind of like yeah I think sitting out with the sun and sweating it out

[00:36:51] and breathing like two things yeah crazy but letting that stuff get out of you and then

[00:36:56] if you actually hear the dog kind of trick you know I do think that does help but they say it's not

[00:37:01] the way it's a short term it is uh when speaking of whim off though I would say like from experience

[00:37:09] just if you if you did have access to a sauna and then from there you go to an ice bath I mean

[00:37:16] you're you're a new you're a new man like a little brook's and dog brand new man starts playing

[00:37:20] just through the evidence yes I like a cold shower nice cold ice cold shower little hair of the dog

[00:37:30] maybe ice cold shower bear yeah you hear the dog yeah I had an ice cold shower again that sounds really

[00:37:36] stuff it is whim off over here climbing a mountain barefoot you know we can we can take a cold shower

[00:37:43] I think guys great yeah right oh yeah but uh no guys we love you love the music love you guys uh

[00:37:50] been so nice to us and cool with us and can't wait to share the new stuff and obviously this Friday too

[00:37:55] as well big big music date is Friday with the firm pie can zap and you guys with a new single and

[00:38:01] um look can't wait to share it stay safe out there and again I'm really excited to be able to

[00:38:07] have you on again so appreciate the time boys hey thank you for the kind words and for you know always

[00:38:13] uh sharing our music to a lot of people out there that never heard it and thank you for your time

[00:38:18] as well you know you guys are in Wisconsin Colorado national Tennessee but glad we can

[00:38:23] put it because it's about music and live man so until next time you guys take care absolutely cheers guys