Colby Acuff

[00:00:14] Welcome back to another episode of Whiskey Riff Raff. I'm Shelby. And my name's Quinn, and we're excited for this episode. This is a cool one that we got to talk to Colby Acuff. Which you've known him. We get into that a little bit, but you've known him for a while, right? Yeah. We were like Instagram friends first, just because I was working at Whiskey Riff and liked his music right when he came out. So then I had an early connection, and then I just keep running into him everywhere I go.

[00:00:41] He's a good social media follow. I follow him on all the platforms and things like that. Puts out some good little thoughts and tidbits here and there. Especially on Twitter. Yes. I love when artists are interactive on Twitter. I feel like it just makes it so much more interesting. But yeah, this is an interview that we've been looking forward to for a while. But obviously, with these new intros, we're going to get into the interview here in just a bit. But we wanted to first talk a little bit, not necessarily about us, but some things that are going on with Whiskey Riff.

[00:01:09] And I'm a writer, so I actually had a part in some of these stories that we were going to talk about. Yeah. Now that's one of the things we're doing is a little bit of a recap, right? Yeah. I want to go over some of the top stories. And people under every single Instagram, Facebook post, doesn't matter what the article is, people will comment, who cares? That is just like a number one comment, not even just for Whiskey Riff, for anything. People are like, who cares?

[00:01:37] But it's just like, these top stories are based on numbers, on what people read, interacted with the most. What people might care about, it seems like. And some of this is a bit controversial. One thing that people say they don't care about, although a lot of people do care about, is Riley Green and Megan Maroney. Yes. Rumored to be dating.

[00:01:59] It's been cool to see, like, I'm envisioning people in their basement with the, like, red lines and the, you know, the tacks trying to place things in here and there and figure out where it all connects. Which we're, we've done a little bit of that, I think, covering some of the stories. Which is crazy, because, like, about a year ago, Megan Maroney had, like, a secret man and, like, you could only see the side profile and everyone was like, it's Riley Green. So we had an article come out, like, about a year ago, like, saying maybe it is that. You're saying we called it.

[00:02:29] We called it a year ago. Not me. Mary Claire, specifically. Yes. Called it. One of our writers called it. But now it's coming full circle. And, you know, it seems to be true. We're not 100% certain, but there are some good. I saw that one of the main pieces of evidence is that someone's dog follows another person. Is that true? Am I making that up? Riley Green's dog is somewhat a public figure now. Okay. And he has been commenting on Megan Maroney's post.

[00:02:58] That's all we need to see. Yeah. And also she was seen wearing his cowboy hat, maybe. Also, I've heard from some semi-reliable sources in my life that it is true. Gotcha. Okay. I'm like, I mean, I'm here for it. They're both very attractive people. It makes sense. I'm hearing that Whiskey Riff reported it first. Yes. And that we're still sticking with our sources and saying that this is true. Yes, definitely. That's interesting. Okay. Well, any other thoughts on the romance? Something that you wouldn't mind to see, I guess, right?

[00:03:28] No, I mean, I feel like public dating relationships can be very messy. So I hope that's not the case because they both, well, especially Megan Maroney is known for writing about her relationships and her bad relationships. So I wonder how this will end or maybe- Maybe it flourishes and it works out fine. If it doesn't, maybe there's a- Great album out there. A breakup record out there.

[00:03:54] And speaking of breakup records, someone who has perfected that art is none other than Taylor Swift. I know that mentioning Taylor Swift can be a little controversial in the country music scene, right? I don't feel anything necessarily, no hatred towards Taylor Swift. So I don't want the Swifties to turn on us by any means. Would you consider yourself a Swiftie? I very much love Taylor Swift's music. However, her fan base makes it hard- Be careful. To- Makes it hard to like her.

[00:04:24] Okay. Like they are very divisive and very passionate, which I love her music. I've loved her music from the beginning and I still do. Went to the Aera store. Mm-hmm. However, they're passionate and- They are. And have very strong opinions. That's a good way to describe them, the Swifties. And I covered something that happened, I guess, earlier this week where Morgan Wallen announced his I'm the Problem tour. Mm-hmm. And my mind immediately went to Taylor Swift's song.

[00:04:53] And I'm saying that as someone who is just like aware of Taylor Swift, potentially listens to some of her songs, but I'm not queuing her up by any means, right? But I even immediately thought I'm the problem tour. Like, and then I thought of the antihero. It's me. Hi. I'm the problem. It's me. Yeah. Now, if I butcher that, I apologize. But, so I was like, you know, there's got to be Swifties that are upset about this. Sure enough, there were. Yeah. And I mean, Morgan Wallen has had that like teaser of that song.

[00:05:21] Like, I guess I'm the problem for, I mean, probably months, I guess. I think it was January of 2024. Because the song that he put out was, I guess. Yeah. And then I'm the Problem is another one of the lyrics in it. I think that song is going to be a part of his forthcoming album that will be of the same name, I believe. So, it's not anything new. But the, it seemed like the announcement of the tour only made the Swifties realize, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[00:05:52] Now, does Taylor Swift own the rights to the phrase, I'm the problem? Definitely not. No, he's not. Definitely not. And I feel like that's something we probably should ask a songwriter, especially like we just interviewed Colby Acuff, about how hard it is to like be 100% original as well. It's like you can accidentally like copy people all the time. I've heard like a lot of artists talk about, you know, they won't even realize where their inspiration comes from sometimes and they'll accidentally copy people. Yeah.

[00:06:21] Only when like they show it to someone else, they're like, hey, this sounds a lot like this. Yes. But I feel like in this case, the two are so far apart that it's just ridiculous. And that's why the Swifties get a bad rap. Yeah. I don't think Morgan Wallen was sitting around thinking, man, how could I upset, you know, one of the most passionate, as you said, you described them earlier, most passionate, loyal fan bases in all of music. I don't think it was that kind of situation. So, but lo and behold, it didn't matter.

[00:06:50] The Swifties got a little bit upset about it. But like, I'm not as brave as you. I'm not going to sit here and even call them any names and label them because I've, not that I've had a, you know, crossings with Swifties in the past, but long story short, I once worked with someone who I believe quit their job because they found out I liked John Mayer and they liked Taylor Swift. That's actually insane. I don't want to get into the whole story. That's actually insane. That's just, it's just. But again, that furthers the point of why Swifties get a bad rap.

[00:07:20] He or she may or may not have, but the timing of them finding out that I was listening to John Mayer and them telling me that they liked Taylor Swift and them putting their two weeks in shortly after is suspicious to say the least. Very interesting. Yes. I do have to ask, do you have any concerts coming up on your list, on your radar? You know, that's a good question. I have looked into some concerts that are at the pinnacle, the new music venue that's supposed

[00:07:50] to be opening up, hopefully. I mean, fingers crossed. Yes. Because it looks like it's still an active construction site. But Casey Musgraves is, I think, one of the first artists that's going to be there. I would not mind to see Casey Musgraves. Um, but I, past that, I haven't. Now's the time of the year where I really do start to look and see. What's going on. What's going to happen, who's playing where. Um, so undoubtedly I will be attending some concerts, but I don't have anything locked in at the moment. Okay. But what about you?

[00:08:17] Um, the first, I think three I have like in the next month or so are Willow Avalon at Exit Inn next Friday. Have you heard of her? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'm interested to see her live because I hear she's fantastic and I love, like I love everything she does on socials. So it'll be cool to see. I'm going to Fort Worth to see Alan Jackson. Oh. And Zach Top and Megan Maroney are opening up. No kidding. So it's going to be a great show. Zach Top and Alan Jackson are in the same room together? Right. That'll be crazy.

[00:08:46] I can't wait until there's a picture of them side by side. And then third one. That's a great show. That's a great lineup. Yeah. The third one actually is at the Pinnacle and it's Turnpike. Turnpike, yeah. Turnpike. So I think I'm going to go to, those might be my first three. I always get like last minute invites to some that I might just squeeze in, but those are mine planned. And what's a song that you've been listening to a lot? Is it anything leading up to those concerts? You know, I always kind of have Alan Jackson on repeat, but I'm like, let me look and see like what I've been playing a lot.

[00:09:16] Actually, I was just in Mexico and I've been playing a lot of Flatland's new Spanish song. It's kind of sad, but it has like a very like, it's not, the words are sad. The song is about like the last words, but the melody's a little bit happier. So I've been listening to that a lot. I've been listening to a lot of Red Clay Strays. Of course. So I really like them. And the song that I keep going back to is Want to Be Loved. Okay. Yeah. Just a great song. Yeah. Class. It's like not, I mean, not a classic.

[00:09:46] I've been around that long. Yeah. But like hard to. It should be a classic. Yeah. Hard to argue with that one. And as far as like the, you know, the spotlight on Brandon Coleman's vocals, I feel like that's just one of the best, one of the best Red Clay Stray songs that are out right now. Yeah. Shout out to them. One more question is Ty Myers just dropped a new album. Have you listened to him much? I have not. Okay. So he's only 17 and girls on TikTok like would die for this.

[00:10:14] I want to say man, but he's 17. So he's like not a man. But I've met him. Be careful, yeah. I've met him and he's just like a sweet, nice, normal guy. And his music is just blowing up. So I was just, I was intrigued to see if you had any thoughts, but you're going to have to give him a listen. I don't have any Ty Myers thoughts, but I can promise you that I will next time we record the podcast. So ask him again and I will have some thoughts. Yeah. All right. Sounds good. Well, with that, let's introduce Colby Acuff and this episode of Whiskey Riff Raff.

[00:10:43] Long history to go over. We have a lot to dive into, so I'm excited. I'm happy to be here. Very happy. Quinn, you probably didn't see it, but I made a TikTok while I was getting ready for today about kind of, there's a lot of things that me and Colby have in common and over the last couple of years have kind of talked about and ran into each other a lot. So back in 2021, I heard his song, If I Were the Devil, and I got him on the podcast with Steven West. Like 2022? Mm-hmm. Yeah. And then kind of sent you some merch.

[00:11:12] That day that we got on the podcast was a crazy day for me. I was like a collector of GMC envoys. It was like my first car. I had an 04 Envoy, and then my second car was an 05. And that day, I was driving home to do the podcast. And a rod slipped in my engine, and my car just like blew up basically. Oh my gosh.

[00:11:39] So I just got out of the car, and I called my dad, and I was like, hey, my engine just broke down. And I'm like, I was probably like four or five blocks from my house. So I just hoofed it home. So when we got on, like the first five seconds or 10 seconds of that podcast, I'm like, hey guys, just happy to be here. I left my car in the middle of the street. Oh my gosh. I just took off. You're like, I have to make this podcast. Yeah, it was very important.

[00:12:07] Well, thanks for the dedication to the Whiskey Reference podcast. Anytime. Everything was fine today, right? Getting here. Yeah, it was a breeze today. Okay, good. And now I have a lot better truck. Yeah. Nice. Still a better start. Still the same kind of truck? No, now I drive a Tundra. Okay. Yeah. But if I could get my hands on an 04 Envoy, I'd be super in. Happy. Yeah. And then we invited you to come back on the podcast in 2023, which was going to be a surprise to you because that's when Cleto was also on and invited you to your

[00:12:37] Grand Ole Opry debut. Correct. Yeah. So that was another big one. And then at your Grand Ole Opry debut, Jamie Johnson walks in while I'm interviewing you and surprised us both. And I think I got the whole thing on video of him just walking in and giving Colby a little pep talk before. Yes. Definitely a cool moment. Well, that one was interesting too because Jamie, we were doing our interview just like this kind of and someone's knocking on the door.

[00:13:02] I'm like, one second, you know, we're doing this thing and it's like the door opens to Jamie Johnson. The last person I would have expected. Like a dumbass. Just like a little starstruck. Wasn't expecting it. And yeah, it was really cool. I mean, he didn't acknowledge me. Not that he needed to, but I was just like, oh wow. So this is happening. But what I'm hearing though is that things are, exciting things are destined to happen whenever you're on the Whiskey Riff Ref podcast. Correct. You know, in association with Whiskey Riff in any way.

[00:13:32] So we don't, I don't think we have any surprises planned. Not today. Not today. None of these were planned. We can't roll anything out. We can't roll anything out. Yeah. None of them were ever planned. And then one other thing that I don't think this wasn't like a lucky thing or anything, but I saw you open up for Flatland at the Ryman and I saw you sing American Son, which was right after your dad had passed. And that was a week after my stepdad had passed. That's right.

[00:13:58] So it was just like another thing just, and then we're both Green Bay Packers fans. Yeah. Go Pack Go. Always. Always have a lot to talk about. Yes. And that jacket, I already said it, but. Thank you. Incredible. I had to wear it. Intentional selection, I would assume. Yes. Definitely. And it's cold outside. I'm a Minnesota Vikings fan, so I'll just stay out of the sports conversations. I can't talk about it. But one of the, one of a Minnesota Packer or Minnesota Vikings fan who doesn't mind the Packers, which is pretty rare. So. I never minded the Vikings until this year. Oh no. Okay. Well, maybe we'll get into that.

[00:14:27] Or the Lions for that matter. The Lions never cared about until this year. I don't know. I mean, I'm happy for the NFC North. Yeah. It's finally strong. And I will even say to all those Bears fans out there, the Bears are better than you think. What's funny is Stephen West, one's a Vikings fan and one's a Bears fan. So. Yeah. It's just all. The Bears are in a lot better shape than they think. Mm-hmm. I think so too. And you could be a Giants fan. Yes. Or a Jets fan. Could be in a lot worse shape. That's for sure. Exactly. All right.

[00:14:56] Let's dive into some music. Yeah. Yeah. So I had read that you previously said your exposure to good songwriting at a young age is what made you value songwriting so much. Was that something that you set out to make happen? Or was it something that you kind of noticed retroactively when you looked back? Well, I think I was lucky in the fact that I was... Because, I mean, when you're a kid, you just... An environment of whatever is being played.

[00:15:24] Like, you know, at some point in your life, you only know nursery rhymes. Yeah. Like, those are your favorite songs. So for me, I think it was just a lot of, like, my parents liked good music. And they were playing a lot of good music around me. And so, yeah. Like, I mean, when you're exposed to Willie and Waylon and, like, Flat and Scruggs Bluegrass and...

[00:15:50] I mean, even, like, you know, from my mom, she would play a lot of, like, Elton John and the Eagles and stuff. You know, really great songwriting. When you're exposed to that at, like, six years old, that's what the expectation is. Yeah. For me, at least, whenever I listen to a song. Well, you can tell. Like, anytime that I listen to any of your music, you know, I can tell that the lyrics are really driving what you're doing. And so I mean that because I'm jealous, like, of songwriters. I think it's a really... I'm a writer but not a songwriter.

[00:16:18] So I know that each song can almost be, like, its own little puzzle that you have to figure out how to put it together. Yeah. I mean, it'll drive you insane. Like, I just... So I go through these weird songwriting spurts. And some guys, I mean, like, the songwriters, you know, they can just write and write and write and it's just, like, second nature. And I'm not like that. I mean, I'll write...

[00:16:44] Like, okay, the last three weeks, I've written 16 songs in probably the last 21, 25 days. Wow. Like, I've been in a lot. Yeah. I've been writing two a day, three a day sometimes. I've been in the rooms. I've been doing the thing. The prior five months to that, I was in gridlock. I had no idea what I was doing. Interesting. And it's like, it drives you nuts because every time I picked up the guitar, I hated what I was playing. And it could have been a...

[00:17:10] I could have a great melody that I really thought was great and could not come up with a single word. Like, writer retreats with people? I just did my very first one and it was... We did a duck hunt in Arkansas and then also did, like, some writing. We wrote, like, two and a half songs and shot a bunch of ducks. So, it was super fun. Right up my alley.

[00:17:36] Whenever I think of ducks or birds, I think of the bird dog song. Oh, boy. Yeah. Yeah, we did a little songwriters round because we were lucky enough to have the Grove Hunting Club kind of host us for this duck hunt. And so, we played, we did, like, a writer's round. Me, Ben Roberts, and Mark Chandler were the ones down there and did a little round for all the members down there. I played Boy and a Bird Dog down there. It was quite the hit for them.

[00:18:05] Nice setting for something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Which, I know back in August you released American Son. One thing that really stood out to me whenever I listened to that, I'm the type of person that likes to listen to an album front to back. Now, I don't know. Some artists might not feel like that's how, you know, people are consuming music still nowadays, but I still try to give the artists the time that, you know, they deserve because I know it takes a ton of time for an artist like yourself to put together an album.

[00:18:32] So, a lot of the times it's just one or two songs maybe that people listen to, right? I just, I don't know why I'm making this about myself, but I like to listen to it all the way through and just, you know, see what songs stand out to me. And one thing that stood out to me about American Son is maybe, I don't know if it was done intentionally, I guess that's my question, is the juxtaposition of that first song, Nightmare, and the last song, American Son. There's a lot of energy with Nightmare, a little bit more somber tone with American Son.

[00:19:00] Is that something that you like set out to do? Or is that just kind of how the album, you know, works itself into what it is? So, I mean, unfortunately, I feel like this is going to be a little bit of a lackluster answer. But for that specific album, when I wrote American Son, I was like, well, I don't know where this is going to be in that track list, but this is definitely the title.

[00:19:27] So, I wrote it, and then I was like, I just don't think that the first song on a record should be necessarily slow. I've always liked, whether it's a live show or whatever, I've always liked to have come out strong in the beginning. So, I don't know, I wrote that song, though, and I was like, I just want it to be me acoustic. It was the last song I got to play for my dad, like just sitting down and played it for him. And I just, I knew that that's what I wanted it to be.

[00:19:57] Because to me, that's what the record was. And, you know, also, I will say, you should make it about you. That's why we make the records. You know, we make them for the listener. And I'm an album artist. You know, I always have been. I mean, singles are, singles are the business, right? But albums are, I mean, I make a record every year for me. So, I can go back and look and be like, oh yeah, this was the catalyst of that year that I did.

[00:20:24] And it's like, I can always remember how I felt when I wrote those songs and whatnot. But ultimately, I put them out for people to listen to. And, you know, it is for the listener to hopefully kind of feel a similar way that, you know, if you can find something in those songs, then I did my job. And talking about the energy at the beginning of like an album, you also begin your show with, last time I saw you was Welcome to Tom's. Yeah. Do you still open the show with that? We do, yeah.

[00:20:51] This year, we got, I mean, the last two years touring, I mean, we've been grinding for sure. Yeah. And Tom's has been a great opener for us. This year we have, yeah, we have four different sets. Okay. So, it's kind of a new thing that we've done. I mean, we've put songs in, but we usually have like a standard set. But this year we're going to switch it up. I mean, we got 66 songs. So, it's hard to pick, you know.

[00:21:20] And we normally do like a two-hour live show for our headline stuff. Yeah. And so, I think this year we're going to try and maybe get that to a 90-minute and then we'll have four different sets. Okay. And go from there. I still have yet to see an actual Colby Acuff show. You gotta come. It's good. I've only seen you open. We're at festivals. I mean, and it's good too. Yeah. I will say we've been really lucky that whenever we're opening or whenever we're on a festival, they've always been great bills. Mm-hmm. So, I mean, you know. Yeah. It's always a good place to go.

[00:21:49] And your new record, you have – I've seen a lot on Twitter about you talking about it and it being a concept record. Mm-hmm. Can you – do you have any ideas of what the themes going on are? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, I'd love to talk about it. So, yeah. Definitely for anybody who's wondering, definitely new music. If nothing has changed, it'll be a new record. Our sixth album will come out sometime this year. And I think as of right now, I'm recording it in March.

[00:22:18] Nice. Yeah. Soon. And it'll come out soon after we get done with it. But, yeah. I think, you know, kind of what I've been calling it is American Son. That is a representation of a very hard year for me. And a lot of the songs are pretty brutal. And there's a lot of, like, sharp edges on that record.

[00:22:47] And I think I got a little lost in the brutality is kind of what I've been calling it. And something my producer told me, he was like, remember when you used to write, like, funny stuff? Because I do have a lot of, like, funny, quirky songs, you know. And I was like, yeah, I do kind of remember what that was like, you know. And he's like, oh, right, some of that. And so, well, then also, actually, I'm going to backtrack now. Here we go.

[00:23:17] How we kind of got to it was there was the concept of, hey, why don't we go ask people what they want to listen to? Because I feel like a lot of things are, a lot of people are sitting in a room trying to guess what everybody wants or, like, how people are feeling. But it's very rare that people go out and actually talk to the fan or the consumer and see what they want.

[00:23:45] So we went out and did 30 interviews and we had, like, a list of questions and we just recorded it all on a tape recorder. So there's no, like, video. We didn't have, like, a camera in their face. Some people, you know, that don't react well to that stuff. And, yeah, we just asked them, you know, questions about them, a little bit about music and tried to get some stories that then we could turn into songs. And then have, like, this concept record that is truly, like, for people that we talked to. How did you pick the 30 people to interview?

[00:24:15] I mean, just, like, walking down the street. Really? Just walking to a church, walking to a bar, walking to a restaurant, whatever. I mean, and we met some amazing people. And it felt really good to talk to people, actually, and, you know, feel out what they think. And so then out of that kind of came to, like, hey, remember when you used to write fun songs and blah, blah, blah.

[00:24:39] So kind of what we're going for on this one is a celebration of people and life and kind of the, you know, there's going to be, there'll be your classic Colby Acuff sad songs in there. But we're trying to go for something that's a little bit more, like, uplifting for people, too. Exciting. And were you the one going around with the tape recorder and asking people these questions? Me and my producer. Okay. So would anybody, like, say, oh, my gosh, it's Colby Acuff? No, that's the best part. That's the best part, dude. Nobody knew.

[00:25:09] I mean, it's... Did you ever explain, like, hey, I'm a country music artist, this is what I'm doing? Yeah, I mean, we told them what it was. In fact, one of the only people that turned us down was a guy in a record store who owned a record store. Oh, wow. And we walked in and we were like, hey, man, like, we're just interviewing people for this thing. And we didn't even get to the part where we're like, oh, yeah, we're, you know, making an album. So he's like, nah, not today. I'm not doing it today. Ironic. Yeah. I know. And disappointing. Well, you know, I mean, I get it.

[00:25:39] I mean, I totally get it. I mean, anyone could turn you down for, like, any reason. Like, they're busy or, like, you know, like, if you said at a restaurant, like, they're eating or, like, you know, something like that. But it's just, like, that's why country music kind of gets the rep it does for, like, oh, labels and oh, this. But it's, like, that's the perfect example of why people think that. Well, yeah. I mean, all I've ever wanted, and it's, like, I think it's my bio, which is kind of cliche, but it's, like, I write honest songs so I can give them to you. Like, that's all I've ever really wanted to do.

[00:26:10] And I think there's – what I found through these interviews is that a lot of people in the best way possible are exactly the same. Like, everyone has their own unique experiences with life, and that is yours. But most of the time how people feel, like, the outcome, the output of life is generally people want the same things.

[00:26:31] And, you know, people all are looking to have value of some kind within whatever community that they're in, and they want to feel loved and happy and supported. And, you know, it's what everybody wants. It's not like – and I'm shocked that I was surprised almost. I almost thought that we might find a bunch of sadness. Yeah. And that was not even anywhere to be found. It's, like – and they always say, like, most people are good and, like, you know, it's just the bad things that get highlighted.

[00:27:00] But I feel like you have to constantly remind yourself that because of how much the negative stuff is just in your face all the time. Yeah. We had no idea what to expect. And what we found was, like – I mean, it was – it almost became a joke. Yeah. Where it was like, okay, this question has 100% the same answer rate. Yeah. So, like, everybody that we would ask – like, we had one where it was like, you know, what would you do if you won the lottery?

[00:27:28] Every single person, very first thing they said was, I buy a house. I buy a house. That's what you're in my mind for. Exactly. I buy a house. I buy a house. And the haves and the have-nots all said I'd buy a house because – and then, like, to me, that just means, wow, are we really to the point where buying a house is winning the lottery? I mean, the odds of you winning the lottery are so low. Is that really where we are? So, like, those are, like, the analytical takeaways for then the music, right?

[00:27:56] Once – it's a simple answer, but it creates a great song. And I would assume, you know, this process that you're going through for this album, it just seems like it would take longer to write songs? Or has it actually been easier because it's almost like, okay, we have all this information as inspiration and now I can just work off of it? It was harder to switch gears.

[00:28:18] But once I switched gears – you know, it was the same thing for American Son because the previous record of that was Western White Pines, which I love that record. And that record was about me, where I'm from, you know, kind of my bag, kind of my experience through life. And I was like, man, it's going to be hard to beat that one. It's going to be hard to not write that record again, which I don't want to do ever.

[00:28:45] And, you know, for that I kind of had to kill Western White Pines in my brain and go in and I went down that – kind of that darker rabbit hole that I was going through. Personally, I decided to share that with everybody, which was really healing for me. So then for this, it's like, well, I got to come back. I got to dig my way out of the rabbit hole a little bit.

[00:29:06] But – and so once I switched gears to going back to kind of more of like the – almost like some of the stuff I wrote in the If I Were the Devil record. Like the start in the mornings and the quirkier kind of like – not funny, but they're cleverly quippy and celebrating people as individuals kind of. Are any of the new songs about one person's specific story? Okay. I'm like, that would be crazy to me. It's just like I got interviewed and now there's a song about me that like –

[00:29:36] That's just like – You know, that's a hard thing to do. Oh, I'm sure. That's the hardest way to write. It's way easier. Like A Cherokee Rose, you know, we just made that up. And that's actually the easiest way to tell like a very specific story song. Got it. Is kind of just like – for me at least. If it's so – I don't ever want to put someone in a position where they share something with me and then it comes out and they're like, come on, man. You know, if it's like too personal. Yeah.

[00:30:03] But it's like general kind of vibes and like energy of people I guess in like the weirdest artsy way to say that. But you talk to somebody – for example, maybe they're a little bit younger and they don't really know. They don't have like a ton of life experience but they're so hopeful but they're also a little bit scared of the future and stuff. Like that's a whole person and that's a lot of people that you can write something around, you know.

[00:30:32] So something to that effect. And you mentioned that sometimes in songwriting you have to block out certain parts. Is it like a checklist almost? It's like I've already covered this part of my life or I don't want to share anything else? Or is this concept album more just calling for you to be more specific with certain things? It's kind of more like – and I hate to be this vague with it but it's kind of just like is this good or bad? And sometimes I'll write something and I'm like, God, that is shitty.

[00:31:00] And it's like, man, that's – you know, that doesn't have – the easiest way for me to describe music is to describe it in like terms of magic. So I love like bar magic, like magicians and shit. So like here's your card, that stuff. I don't know any magic tricks. So all I want to see is my card. And I just want to see people do card tricks all day.

[00:31:23] And for us, you know, like artists and songwriters, sometimes we get a little lost like in the trick, in the prestige of the thing. And so that's why, you know, magicians end up like trying to escape out of ice blocks after like 36 hours of being frozen or that kind of stuff. It goes to a place that is so extreme in magic. And most people that watch magic don't want to see someone almost die in an ice block. They just want to see their card. Yeah.

[00:31:49] You know, and so somewhere in between those two things, there's a great prestige and, you know, it can please a lot of people. And that's kind of where I want my songwriting to be in essence. Can you share any – like what's the worst song that you ever wrote that comes to mind? Was there anything that like stands out? The thing is, normally when I write songs that are bad, I don't finish them. That's fair. Like I can't – it's just control, delete. Because I have a rule and I call it like burning.

[00:32:19] So like I don't want to burn a melody and I don't want to burn a good phrase and I don't want to burn a chord progression that's cool. Like because if I associate it with whatever that is and it's really bad, then I'll never write it again. Yeah, I get to that. Yeah, so if I get to that point, I just kind of throw it away. Are there any keywords that usually come up and you're like, oh, this is not good because of this word? See, I'm big – like I mean I don't know. I would say I'm an artsier artist for sure. But I still like cliches. I mean I think cliches are there for a reason.

[00:32:48] And if you can twist a cliche a little bit, then, you know, people usually understand it. So I try – I mean I try to avoid certain things for sure. But I think sayings and metaphors and things like that. But I will say that like for this project, I've tried to keep it in the present as much as possible. So like describing someone's day has been kind of like a big thing.

[00:33:17] Like just putting somebody in the moment in that day and trying to describe that situation without, you know, trying to leave that presentness. And that's kind of maybe been a bullet point for me that I've – it's a checklist thing for me on this one. Trying to keep that in check. You mentioned magic. Have you been to House of Cards here in Nashville? Yes. So I'm a big House of Cards guy. Really? And I didn't even know about it. My manager told me about it. And I took my fiance there on a date about a year ago I'd imagine.

[00:33:46] Maybe we went there for our anniversary. But, man, it's cool. Have you guys been? I haven't. So – I only went when I was visiting Nashville like 2016. But I'm supposed to take my roommate for his birthday like next month. So I'm excited. You got to go. Okay. Unless you don't like magic. Then it's great. No, I like magic just as much as the next person. So I think that would be good. Okay. So it's super rad. I mean it's – I don't know. I mean it's kind of a secret thing. It's below the Johnny Cash Museum. Oh, really? Okay. And then they have like all this up-close magic.

[00:34:15] And then you go to a show at the end and they have like five-star dining and all this stuff. Yeah, it's really cool. I will look into it. Yeah, it's nice. It's kind of like a – Date night. Yeah. Okay, perfect. Valentine's Day coming up. Suit and tie kind of place. Gotcha. Black tie event. But it's awesome. Yeah. I was excited. Shout out House of Cards, I guess. Yes. Go there. Also, you mentioned the lottery. Do you ever play the lottery? No. But I do like to gamble. I love sports gambling and craps.

[00:34:45] Those are my two. What is your sports bet app of choice? I use FanDuel. I use FanDuel. I had a great year. I crushed. I made money on touchdowns this year and it was awesome. There's nothing like crafting an anytime touchdown bet on a Sunday morning. I hit five anytime touchdown defense bets. Oh, wow. Plus 800. Yeah. Okay. Oh my gosh. Yeah. We had a good year. Maybe you could start the Colby Acuff sports book.

[00:35:14] Sounds like you got something going here. That seems like I start losing money. We're waiting for those locks on Sunday mornings. That's the only way I can actually watch games that aren't Packers games. Like, I need the sports betting just so I actually pay attention otherwise. Well, yeah. Not to mention, I mean, like, what was I in? I was in two fantasy leagues, sports betting. But I will say, since the Packers lost, I've been kind of just, I'm out. Yeah.

[00:35:38] And now, especially with the way the Super Bowl is playing out, I am not in. Who do you want to win? You don't care. That's kind of how I feel too. I guess the Eagles. I've written a lot about people just being like, I might not even watch the Super Bowl. And I doubt that. Like, I even said that. I think at some point it's like, I'm probably going to watch the Super Bowl. But I'm not going to be locked into the Super Bowl, I don't think. Well, I had such a good sports year for a little bit.

[00:36:07] But my Vandals lost. My Dogs lost. Green Bay lost. Mariners never had a shot. It just all went downhill. And then I just, I got sad. And I'm like, I'm done. One of our writers, Andrew, had this question that we were going to end with. But I feel like it's perfect for now. Would you rather go to every Packers game and then always lose or never be able to watch a game? But they win, like, every Super Bowl. Oh, man.

[00:36:34] Man, I've never been to a game at Lambeau. So would I rather be? Have you been to Lambeau Field? Yes. We played Green Bay this last year. And it was awesome. Yes, I was at that. As I was saying, I've never been to a Packers game at Lambeau. But I've been to Titans versus the Packers. And that was fun. A couple years back, I went to Lambeau for a Vikings game. And it was, I think, Kirk Cousins tested positive for COVID, like, maybe three days before. I remember this. And so they just got smacked. I mean, it wasn't even close.

[00:37:04] But I still had the time in my life. So don't tell other Minnesota. Well, I guess this is on the podcast. Yeah. It's a little too late for that. But I would have to root. I'm just thinking of every Jets fan right now, how miserable they are. Yeah. I would have to say I would rather them win. Yeah. I think so, too. Mostly, yeah. I think Tucker Craft would kill me if I said otherwise. Fair. And the Vandals, that's Idaho. Yeah. Okay. That's like...

[00:37:33] For those that might not know. Yeah. I bleed black and gold. Yeah. I honestly never heard of them until you. Well, it's FCS, you know. FCS. But it's out there. Like, we don't have... Idaho doesn't have, like, a professional team. And I don't even want to talk about Boise State. So... Fair. So, Idaho... And me and my whole band went to University of Idaho. Okay. That's, like, where we built everything. And my very first record, Life of Rolling Stone, there's a track on there called The Moscow

[00:38:01] Drinking Team, which ended up becoming, like, University of Idaho's little anthem, drinking anthem thing. And they played at the games and stuff. Nice. And I got... Yeah. I mean, I got close with the program and everything. Is there an NIL collective at the University of Idaho? Could you put on some sort of benefit concert for the vandals on behalf of them? Yeah. So, right now, we're putting together a little package for... I'm donating... Oh, wow.

[00:38:27] ...sign guitar, tickets, a flyaway, an autographed photo. I'm donating a bunch of stuff for the scholarship auction that's coming up here soon. And actually, I'm really grateful. This year, I won an alumni award. It's called the Bold and the Brave Award at University of Idaho. So, I'll be going to that May 8th, accepting that little award there in Moscow. So... Well, we definitely need the details on that. That's something that Quinn would write about in a heartbeat. Yeah.

[00:38:55] I mean, dude, anything that'll help Idaho vandals, I'm in. I've already... You know, I've always said I've done what I can to raise awareness for the Idaho vandals. Yes. Because we need it. I've only been to Idaho... I guess I've been twice, but only for festivals. So, I don't actually get experience Idaho. All I know are potatoes. Yeah. And I feel like even that... I've never been to Idaho either, but that's kind of an overblown... Like, potatoes aren't a huge deal in Idaho, or is it...

[00:39:24] Well, they are, but they're a big deal in southern Idaho. Yeah. Okay. So, like... I mean... You're from northern Idaho, or is it? Yeah. So, I'm, like, from the panhandle. Yeah. I grew up, like, two hours south of the Canadian border. Okay. And, I mean, I'm pretty close to being Canadian. Like, I grew up... I'd believe you was a American Canadian. ...duck hunting in Canada when I was a kid, and, I mean, we're... A lot of people are dual citizens up there, and... But northern Idaho and southern Idaho is kind of like the difference between, like, West

[00:39:53] Virginia and Virginia. Mm-hmm. If you know what I'm talking about. If not, then, you know. But it's getting better. Northern Idaho is traditionally, like, a mill town, like a lumber mill town. It became a tourist town in the last 10 years, and so now it's a night and day from when I was a kid. What's something, you know, that people should know about Idaho, you know, minus the potatoes connection that we already covered? Um...

[00:40:23] You know, most people would say the one... Like, most people would be like, it sucks, don't go there. Because, obviously... It's a town... Or it's a... Idaho is bigger than a lot of states. A lot of... I mean, all those western states are so big. I mean, from tip to tip, it's like a 14-hour drive. Mm-hmm. It's not just like... I guess you don't think about that. Yeah. No. I mean, side to side. Yeah. Like, especially in the panhandle, it's like a couple hours where I'm from.

[00:40:51] But the Rockies go through the whole state. Um... It's... The whole state has 2 million people in it. It's a giant, small town. And people... People know about it now. So people are going there. You can't stop that. Um... And the one thing I would say about it is, you know, if you want to move there, if you want to go there, just please pick up your shit. Don't litter. Treat it well. Because there's not many states left that have that much national forest, that much public

[00:41:19] land, that much freedom to go, you know, do whatever you want. And just treat it better than you found it. Because it... It can get out of hand over there. Yeah. I wonder how that's all going to change over the next 10 years with, like, Yellowstone kind of blowing up Montana, Wyoming. I feel like that whole area is going to change so much in the next, like, 10 years. It's been happening for a long time. And it's... It's not like... I don't know. I mean, there's a lot of factors that go into it. And it's been happening probably since...

[00:41:48] Really since the 70s, honestly. There's just been a couple... It all is based on the real estate market. If the real estate market's going good, it's growing. But then we've got a couple crashes that stalled that. But, like, my hometown when I was growing up, Coeur d'Alene, was probably 40 to 50,000. And now it's 85, 90. Okay. So it's doubled. Yeah. That's crazy. Is that where you would have been a stockbroker? Or you would have been somewhere else? Oh, yeah.

[00:42:18] No, I mean... Because I had read that that's, like... Yeah. That's what you were... I mean, that was my initial job offer. But I had, like, my real estate license. Okay. And I've worked a lot of jobs. And I was a fly fishing guide for three years. And, yeah. I've always wanted a hobby to be a career. Yeah. Yeah. I've always wanted to do something I love. And I've been able to make that work always, which is lucky. And of all the careers, maybe besides the country music one, what do you think you would have done the best at? Would it have been...

[00:42:48] Would you have been a great stockbroker? Would you have been, you know, a world-famous fly fishing guide, you think, if you stuck with that? I mean, world-famous, I don't know. But I would have been... I was good at my job. Yeah. I mean, I'm not going to lie. I'm a pretty damn good fly fisherman. I mean, duck hunting and fly fishing and country music, or I would say more songwriting, are pretty much three things. The only three things that I've ever really been worth a damn at. And I get obsessive about things.

[00:43:16] So if it's not the best, then it's not good enough. And those three things, I'm all in on those. So I think if I would have stuck with fly fishing, you know, I would have been great at that. But I had an econ degree, and I love economics. Economics is kind of a hobby of mine. But... Sports betting. Sports betting, that kind of stuff. Analytics, you know. But I just don't think I would have... I wouldn't have loved it, you know.

[00:43:42] And with songwriting, you've put out an album every year the last six years. If you want to produce the best product, are you not going to keep up with that trend if it's not the best? Or is your plan to kind of continue to do one album a year? If the music suffers, it's not worth it. And I am not a person that would put out something that I didn't love. Yeah. You know?

[00:44:09] Because, like, once again, it's got to be exactly what I want it to be, in an essence. Um... Now, that being said, it doesn't always have to be the most highbrow thing of all time. But it's got to be what it needs to be, more, you know, more or less. Um... And so, yeah. I mean, I hope I can always do that. Um... A lot of it comes down to me writing. Um... I... You know, it's... And it's...

[00:44:38] This isn't a pride thing or an ego thing. I just... I don't... I've never done an outside cut. Um... And of the 66 songs I have out, I've solo written 58 of them. Oh, wow. And that's something for me. And once again, it's a catalyst of my year. So... It's kind of like, that's the therapy that I need. And I write that. And then that I can share it with people. And if they feel the same way, then they connect. Um... And so hopefully that never goes away. Hopefully I always have something to write about.

[00:45:08] Um... But if I ever get there, then... Yeah. Maybe not. Last question before we dive into some rapid fire. Mm-hmm. You mentioned your girlfriend. Mm-hmm. Um... You have been dating a long time. I don't feel like you're very open about your relationship on socials or anything. You said fiancé, right? Yeah. Okay. I wanted to say that, but I wasn't positive. That's what you said. And you had told me that you were going to propose. I was like, I'm not going to screw that up if you hadn't. No, I did. I did. So... Okay. Okay. So you're engaged. Mm-hmm. Congrats. Yeah. Thank you.

[00:45:37] I think a lot of fans would be interested in knowing your love story, how long you guys been together, where you guys met, all the details. Yeah. It's not that I'm... I say this a lot and she... It's not that I'm private. It's just that my... Like, my socials are... Mm-hmm. They're a tool. Mm-hmm. It's a business profile, you know? And I know that people... Like, I posted about our engagement and stuff, you know? So, like, I'm not super private about that. Yeah. But for the most part, like, I'm...

[00:46:06] It's a business. Yeah. You know? So it's... And we play a hundred-something shows a year and put out a record. There's a lot of things to post about. But yeah, I'm more than willing to talk about it. We've been together for seven years. Finally proposed. Long time. Yeah, yeah. She was... It was... She was ready. It was time. Yeah. And... But, you know, I mean, we moved three times in that. And kind of when I moved down here, she's a teacher and she had a great job up in our... Or my hometown. She's from Idaho as well.

[00:46:37] And I kind of was like, hey, this is... If you're going to make a selfish choice like I am right now, this is kind of your time to, I guess, evaluate me and see if it's worth moving. And that's totally up to you. I just... I have to take this. I'm never... You know, this is the opportunity I've been waiting for. And so she was like, that's a no-brainer. I'll move down because you're awesome. She decided that it was... I was worth, you know, the time.

[00:47:07] And so she came down and in my brain, I was like, if she moves, obviously we're getting married. And she's been with me. We got together my... End of my junior year at college. And we've lived together ever since, pretty much. I mean, it's been seven years of, you know, being together. She was with me when I was a broke trout bum and when I got a record deal and through everything. So, you know, I owe her a lot.

[00:47:37] That's the best. And Quinn just got married this last year. Do you have any advice for Colby? I'm in no place to give marriage advice. I've been married since September of 24, so... It's longer than me. Just say yes, honey. Yeah. Pretty good at that. That's what I've been told and I've continued to do that. It works out pretty good. Yeah. She's great because, I mean, I think she grounds me really well and I can get...

[00:48:04] I spin and spiral pretty easy as far as just, like, jumping down these rabbit holes that I get into. And she's supportive, but she also knows when telling me to pay attention and, like, hey, you're losing track of whatever the hell you think you're doing. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. That's nice. That's nice. And, like, I feel like I love watching, like, NFL players, too. Like, when their spouses have been with them since school, it's just fun to watch the evolution.

[00:48:28] Well, I mean, I was, you know, probably prime suspect for somebody who my friends probably never thought I would have a girlfriend or be married. And then once I got locked in, I mean, it was... That's it. That's all I've done. Yeah. So... Okay. All right. Let's dive into some rapid fire. First one is, what are your 2025 predictions? For me? For anything. Oh, boy. Oh, God. 2025.

[00:48:57] Sports betting-wise, I mean, Chiefs, Super Bowl, probably just lock that in. Seems like that's where everything's heading, but... I don't want to make that bet, but it seems like that's the bet to make. I think it's a ref Super Bowl. Ooh! Bills got robbed. Anyway, so... I would say... Yeah, 2025 predictions. Let's go with... I'm going to put out a record. That's 100%. Packers are going to win the Super Bowl next year, for sure.

[00:49:26] Especially if we get a receiving core. I'm going to go with... Man, this is a tough one. Those are two good ones. I don't want any big, lofty ones, you know? I don't know. I kind of like big, lofty ones. What we're doing is we're asking every artist this, and then we're all going to compile all their 2025 predictions. Got you. So... Well, I would say then... Yeah, I mean, I'm going to put out a record.

[00:49:55] Packers are going to win the Super Bowl in 2026, but they're going to win out in the 2025 season. Mariners are going to go to... Yeah, to hell with it. Mariners are going to the World Series. The Vandals are going to win the FCS Championship here in Nashville is where it's going to be played. And I think I'm going to have a hell of a year. I'm excited about it. Awesome. What song do you have on repeat right now?

[00:50:29] This is going to sound really weird. Right now, I've been listening to a lot of Counting Crows, and I've been listening a lot to Accidentally in Love from the Shrek 2 soundtrack. Oh, yeah. Great song. That song rips, but... Shrek 2 in general rips as well. Just to put that out there. Yeah, Mr. Jones, the Accidentally in Love song. I mean, I don't know. I've just been listening to a lot of Counting Crows lately. Was it because you watched Shrek 2?

[00:50:55] No, it was because we were at rehearsals for a tour, and I just broke into Accidentally in Love, and we played it as a band. And then I was like, dude, that song is so good. It is so good. So then I listened to that, and then I was like, dude, Counting Crows are awesome. And it reminded me of my childhood, so I started listening to them. I only ever listen to them when they come on shuffle, but I love them. You already mentioned fly fishing and duck hunting, but is there anything else besides that in country music that you're oddly obsessed with?

[00:51:25] Oh, I mean, for sure. Another thing about me, like, I'm a guy's guy, to a T, almost like kind of, you know, to a fault. But I love, like, just dudes being dudes songs. Like, for example, something like a Luke Combs, like When It Rains of Pores. Like, that song is just that guy. It's just Luke being a dude, like, describing dude things. So kind of anything that's, like, kind of in that dude core vibe is cool for me.

[00:51:55] Your go-to hangover cure. Oh, God. I have a lot of them. My number one hangover cure is don't drink. But I will say, if I do, it's going to be vitamins 100% over and over. That's made the biggest difference, especially since I turned 28. That was a totally different kettle of fish as well. But it's like D3K2. It's electrolytes. It's magnesium.

[00:52:24] And I mean, just anything I can get my hand on. Name something that's overrated. The Vikings. Dang it. Okay. Well, I'll accept that. Name something that's underrated. I think as of recently, I'm a big ketchup fan. I'm going to go with ketchup. I think ketchup is vastly underrated.

[00:52:51] And also, another thing for being overrated, Nashville hot chicken. Oh. I kind of agree on that one, too. And I agree with ketchup. I'm obsessed with ketchup. I have multiple drunk videos of me. You know those, like, Costco-sized ketchup things? Mm-hmm. I'm known to put my mouth under those. Oh, ketchup. I want they're twice drunk. Yeah. I love ketchup. I love ketchup. I was a ketchup kid. And, like, I'm a hot sauce guy, too. But the hot sauce phase is big right now. And, you know, the Nashville hot chicken thing is cool.

[00:53:20] But when I'm playing in Iowa and, like, any place I go now has a Nashville hot chicken sandwich. Mm-hmm. And it's just cayenne, guys. It's not like it's very dimensional. Cocktail sauce? Big fan. I like cocktail sauce. Underrated condiment. There's a big debate back home. Uh-oh. Especially in the band because we're from all over the state. Mm-hmm. So there's these things called steak fingers or finger steaks, depending on where you're from.

[00:53:49] And they're just breaded pieces of steak and they're fried. I'd probably like those. They're really good. But in that debate in Idaho, some people think you serve it with cocktail sauce. And then we have this whole other thing over there called fry sauce, which is a massive deal, which is just mayonnaise and ketchup together. Okay. But we call it fry sauce. And so do you serve it with fry sauce or cocktail sauce? What's your pick? Fry sauce. Okay. But I do like cocktail sauce. All right.

[00:54:17] Do you have any embarrassing onstage moments? Oh, God. Maybe. I'm trying to think of one that's a real singer. We had one recently where it was our very first show of this year opening for Muscadine in Columbus. And we had a banjo feedback, super hardcore, in the beginning of When I See You Again, which is like a very somber song. Yeah. And so I was like, I just started singing. It was like, what? And you're like, what? I had to restart.

[00:54:47] But that really isn't like so embarrassing for me. I've had a couple of times where I've probably been a little, I've been drunk on stage before where it's like, I probably shouldn't have said that or done this or whatever. I mean, we haven't seen anything. Otherwise, you probably would have wrote about it. I know. It's been, I've kept it pretty low key. Yeah. I've been good. Try to keep it professional, you know? Fair. Well, I'll ask a very unprofessional question next then. Perfect. What is the largest animal you could take 1v1 in a fight? Okay.

[00:55:16] I like this question a lot. Mostly because I have a very similar question. Okay. I would say the biggest animal that I could take on 1v1 with 100% certainty that I would win is a dog. Okay. One dog. Any size dog? Like Great Dane? Untrained too, right? Because I mean, you see these videos of dogs, you know. Yeah, it's got to be wilder than hell, right? I was just in Mexico. Wild dogs everywhere. Yeah. I mean, sure.

[00:55:41] Because the biggest dog is still going to be like maybe up to my body weight, maybe pound for pound. I mean, they're going to be way stronger. Up to 100 pound dog, 100%. Down from there, I don't know. But I usually have this question for people because we have a huge problem back home with moose. And moose are like the North Idaho hippopotamus. They kill a lot of people. And they're huge, you know? And so I always ask people like, how many, you have no weapons, right?

[00:56:09] It's just how many people in hand-to-hand combat do you think it would take to take down a moose? I was thinking, envisioning that they would be similar to be taken down like an ATT, I think, from Star Wars. Yeah. Where like you kind of have to work together to get the legs first. It's a lot of course. But I don't think one person per leg would be enough. Really? I always say 30. Yeah. What? Because probably in the first like... Two or three are going down.

[00:56:38] Oh, off the bat. Yeah. When it starts, it's going to be heinous. We're on the same page here, yeah. Yeah. I was going to say probably 20 people. Because if it was like... I don't understand how large a moose is then. I was not. I mean, their legs to their... Just their legs are about seven feet. Yeah. Okay, yeah. I had no idea. They're huge. I heard they were huge. I just never envisioned that big. I've had a lot of close calls with moose. They're very scary. And... But yeah, like... If someone came to me and said, okay, how many people do you want for this?

[00:57:08] Not this... If it was real, I'd be like at least 30. Mm-hmm. Because that's 100%. Mm-hmm. It's a good answer. Yeah. It's a very strange question. Before... Well, before I knew how big they were, I was going to say like four, but definitely not now. No, you need more than four. I was thinking one per leg. Okay. Last question. What is your ideal dive bar meal? So you pick one shot, one beer, and one bar food. Okay, yeah. That's easy. Melo Light for the beer.

[00:57:35] The shot is going to be a tequila, not gold. It's got to be some kind of clear tequila. And then the bar food. I mean, I... I mean, it's pretty hard to beat like a bologna sandwich or a burger. Pretty in on that. Or wings. God, I love wings. Got to pick one? I know. Fine, I'll go wings because I feel like that's the move. Good bar food. Yeah. For sure.

[00:58:04] Well, that's it. We're looking forward to some new music this year. Me too. Definitely, yeah. And if you're ever in a moose fight, just call me. You'll be one of my 30. Yeah, okay. Perfect. And go Paco. Go Paco, as always.