Invasive species that clones itself; Historic structure in trouble; Extended closure at stunning lake; & More

[00:00:04] Welcome to another episode of the OutThere Colorado Podcast. Technically this is our midweek format, I think, where we're going to be talking about more news. We'll probably put it out on Friday though, so kind of got messed up by my trip. But once again, I'm Spencer, here with Seth. We got Tim over there in the booth doing the audio and the video for today. And yeah, once again, a lot of interesting news to talk about.

[00:00:27] So including a cloning creature. Yeah, yeah. Curious to hear more about this. Not the Aspen tree. Yeah, not the Aspen. I started digging into that one and I was like, whoa, this is very interesting, much more interesting than I thought it'd be. But yeah, first off, I want to give a shout out to the, to Awi Sushi Express. Was it Awi Sushi Express? I had lunch over there downtown. Very quick sushi. And it was, it was good. I've heard. Yeah, it was a great deal. It's gonna be my new lunch spot in downtown Colorado Springs.

[00:00:53] It was a quick little go, quick get for sushi. Yeah, good prices too. So wanted to give him a shout out. Probably after we record this, I'm gonna be popping over there and giving him a sushi roll and some rice for like 10 bucks. It's gonna be great. I just want to say Spencer was on the show yesterday talking about how he's going to be eating chicken and rice after feasting in Greece for a week or so.

[00:01:15] So I was looking at the other spots downtown and I was like, I was like, you know what? All of these, I'm going to be consuming like, like 1500 calories for lunch. Not be a good idea. Let's try this sushi place out. I was impressed. Cool. Nice little like light atmosphere in there too. Like, yeah, very good for like just a quick lunch. Like grab and go. Good little niche they're filling it seems like. Like lunch sushi. Yeah, I like it.

[00:01:41] Yeah. You see a slice for 20s kind of getting a spot downtown. Saw that. Yeah. I think that could be a hit. Cause I think slice for 20. Is it slice for 20 or slice for 20? Slice for 20, right? I probably messed that up. Sorry if you're listening slicers. But yeah, like, cause I like just getting slices. Yeah. I think that's, yeah, that seems like it's, especially when it's like creative slices that they have, you know, it's for everyone outside of Colorado Springs listening.

[00:02:07] One of the most popular pizza places in Colorado Springs, um, beloved by, by many locals here. But yeah, it sounds like the one that's going in downtown is going to be more like a grab and go situation. So yeah. Makes sense. Yeah. I like that concept. Like get like two different, totally different slices and just, that's your lunch. Yeah. Um, let's get into the news though. That's enough about Colorado Springs. Yeah. Um, I'm getting hungry.

[00:02:30] What do we got here? Um, so, uh, so, uh, uh, first off, uh, both of us have written about this, uh, but a very popular lake area outside of Crested Butte, uh, is going to be closed for like over a year. It sounds like, um, Lake Irwin. So one of the most beautiful mountain scenes, uh, in the state with a lake there and just beautiful backdrop, a popular camping site.

[00:02:54] Basically, uh, the U S forward service is going to be having a, uh, a major, major overhaul construction project of this area. They're calling it a full demolition and reconstruction. And describing it as a modernization as well. Yeah. Um, all the facilities at this area are, uh, were essentially were built in the 1960s and they said it exceeded their useful life. So, uh, they'll be, uh, adding some tripling the parking capacity, which is pretty significant.

[00:03:22] Well, it's not just adding parking, it's tripling the parking capacity. You show you how popular spots got in recent years. Yeah. No doubt. A campground, but also very popular for people getting on a kayak or a paddleboard, what have you. Yeah. And that's, that's important to note too, because, uh, the closure periods, which I'm about to get into here, they vary depending on the campground or, or the day use, but yeah, they're going to be adding new campsites too. I think eight new campsites, then there'll be 40 there. Um, so pretty significant stuff going on at Lake Irwin.

[00:03:52] Um, basically, uh, the camping there, and this is at like 10,000 something feet of elevation, I believe, uh, yeah, 10,200 feet of elevation. So, uh, pretty high elevation, um, in terms of a camping area. Uh, but yeah, the, uh, campground will close on September 8th this year, uh, which apparently is its regular closing date, uh, for the season. Um, but it won't be opening again until the spring of 2028.

[00:04:17] Meanwhile, the day use area are going to stay open through the end of the year, but then be closed to the entirety of 2027. So. Yep. Yep. No going for 2027. Right now it looks like a grand opening might happen in June of 2028 is what they're thinking. So, uh, something to, uh, keep in mind. Sounds like, I mean, a pretty significant upgrade. Um, I'm sure that's a spot where, I mean, just with the view alone in the social media slash Instagram era, I'm sure people have happened to turn on to that spot at a higher rate.

[00:04:45] And you know, this will be, uh, this, uh, saying this will, will be no news to people familiar with camping in Crested Butte. Um, but the popular refrain in so many places in Colorado, but seemingly especially in Crested Butte is have a plan B for camping, right?

[00:05:05] So people might remember back in the COVID-19 pandemic Crested Butte, like so many places, deluge of camping that led to the forest service really revising how they manage camping in the area on those many forest service roads close to town. So it's all, uh, primarily designated dispersed, right? Since 2021, I want to say where it's like 200 plus sites first come first serve.

[00:05:32] Um, but as people know, if you're going on a weekend, good luck, right? Uh, you could be driving a while looking for a spot. Um, in the case of Lake Irwin, I think this is important context when it comes to reserved campgrounds close to town. Um, those appear to be extremely limited.

[00:05:52] If I'm right in thinking slash seeing on recreation.gov, it's Lake Irwin and OB Joyful close to town as far as reservable campgrounds close to town. Um, so a closure of that campground could add to that squeeze. Um, so people really need to be aware of a lot of tips that are listed on Crested Butte Mountain Bike Association. Uh, their website has great details about camping, uh, in the area.

[00:06:21] Lots of tips on there, where to go, uh, how to approach camping, when to go, right? Might be a good thing to consult maybe more than ever. Well, and if I remember correctly too, there's an interesting dynamic with Crested Butte where you're not only competing against other campers to find a spot, but you're also competing against some of the town's residents to find a camping spot because a lot of those, uh, seasonal workers, uh, housing is very limited. And I remember there were some headlines.

[00:06:47] I want to say it was from the Colorado Sun a few years ago where they were looking at just how limited housing was and, um, how a lot of workers in town turned to camping and campsites to, to be able to live in that area. Yeah. I see that in other, I see that in other mountain towns for sure. I know that that's happening in Crested. Yeah. So that, that squeeze could be, uh, further squeezed, uh, by that campground closure is, is what I'm thinking. 40 sites. I don't know. Some people might think that's not that much. Seeming to be 40 sites.

[00:07:17] 32 right now. Right. 32 right now. Um, but yeah, I mean, that's, that's kind of a big piece of the pie as far as camping goes. How many are overjoyful? I didn't see it. But that's a good question. Again, I know, um, uh, I think they refer to 208 first come first serve sites across, like these drainages that we know around Crested. It was like 30 OB Joyful. So, I mean, you're talking to, uh, like you said, a decent chunk of the pie about to be shut down for a year.

[00:07:47] Um, yeah. Think about. Think about. Something to think about. Maybe go on a week. Yeah. Who needs to work? Right. Well, I mean, or just, you know, get the Starlink and work from the road. There you go. You and your Starlink. When is Starlink going to sponsor this? Dude, my, that would, uh. You've been pumping up stuff. It works well, man. It actually works. It's a product that works well. And I'm a fan of products that work well and get the job done. But Spencer's a tech guy. Is that a way out of your tech?

[00:08:15] I enjoy, I enjoy, I used to be more so. Um, but, uh, yeah, I, I enjoy my tech. I'm going to get the topper on the, on the Jeep here in a couple days really now. It's probably installing it sometime next week. So at that point, I'll be able to take the Starlink out, have the sleep in the truck bed and just peace out. It'll be nice. So you heard it here first folks. We might not be recording much anymore. He's going to be out on the road.

[00:08:42] Or I got to go find you to record. I got to go find you to do these things. Throw you my GPS coordinates and let you track me down. Um, let's get into some updates about, um, Ben's old fort. So you, you, you, you've been doing some pretty significant reporting on this and, uh, for people not familiar with this, it's a replication of a famous training post there along the Santa Fe trail. Um, and, uh, yeah, pretty cool spot. If you like history for sure. Yeah.

[00:09:12] Yeah. Very cool. Very cool spot. Very, very significant. To the state's fabric. I would say, put it this way. When Ben's old fort rose in 1833, like you said, there along the Santa Fe trail would go on to host travelers, uh, trappers, uh, tribal people really becoming this cultural crossroads there in the 1830s.

[00:09:40] At that time, if you were looking at maps in Colorado, while the mapping of Colorado was very much still in the works, you saw like three, you saw like three landmarks, Pikes Peak, Longs Peak, and Ben's fort. It was that significant. It was that significant. Put it that way in perspective, right? To just, to just kind of paint the picture of how, um, notable this place is on Colorado's landscape. Right.

[00:10:03] Um, so by 1921, uh, I should say before closed for people unfamiliar, quick little crash course on the history there. Um, this trading post goes until after the American Mexican war right there beside the Arkansas river that represented the old national border. I think that's such a thing to see there. No, it's so cool. Just so cool to me. Um, the place was abandoned.

[00:10:28] The place was abandoned shortly thereafter the Mexican American war, um, over the decades fell into ruin pretty much by 1921. Along came the great flood, uh, wiped out, uh, what remained of that place. The decades give way to stewardship and thoughts of what can we do to kind of honor this historic site? Uh, National Park Service comes along and rebuild and builds this replica for it. In 1976. Recent years. Recent years.

[00:10:58] Um, it has become more and more abundantly clear of how perhaps shoddy that construction was. Uh, put it this way this year, Colorado Preservation Inc. Uh, put it in its endangered places list, um, and kind of laid out all this different material that's been used over the years. Um, that's in various states of decay.

[00:11:23] National Park Service reports over the past 30 years, spending like $15 million, over $15 million on like ad hoc repairs until 2024. When my understanding is a major snowstorm, uh, rendered really big structural flaws in the experience ever since at Ben's old fort has really changed. A lot of areas are closed off due to safety issues. Yeah. Due to safety issues. Fear of it collapsing. Right.

[00:11:52] Um, so that kind of puts in to context where we are now, uh, recently, uh, recently tuned into, uh, uh, uh, Lahana tourism board, um, meeting where people gathered and heard a presentation about, uh, about four early concepts. National Park Service is referring to these as early concepts. Nothing definitive as far as designs go in what things could be in the future.

[00:12:19] But the only thing that seems certain as far as the future of Ben's old fort is that things are going to change. Um, um, one option is a major rehabilitation or rebuild again of Ben's old fort. Um, if you listen to the superintendent talk during this meeting, you definitely get the sense of how expensive that would be.

[00:12:46] They're estimating, I think, between 20 and 30 million for such a project like that. Um, and the superintendent also added that doing that would greatly limit the kind of resources and improvements that they could put into operations of that place. So listed as an option to be clear.

[00:13:05] The other options range from, and people can see these options and concepts on a webpage that's open right now, taking comments through October. Um, but the other concepts kind of range from partially, um, maintaining some of the building and activating more of the landscape in a way with exhibits and trails and interpretive signs.

[00:13:34] The other three kind of range in variety of what that would be, you know, um, and one of those options is a complete tear down of Ben's old fort as well. Where maybe the footprint, the historic footprint would be memorialized, if you will, would be marked in a way again, kind of more so showcasing the landscape though. So without the structure with these other concepts. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:14:00] Um, it also has to be said, um, if it was reconstructed, the superintendent, um, sort of indicated that it would be, um, altered, altered slash compromised because of modern materials that would be needed to bring this thing, essentially, uh, to make it safe and visitable, if you will. Right.

[00:14:25] So that's, um, important in the sense of what has always been the draw to Ben's old fort. This feeling of time travel, right? This feeling of you're back there in 1830s between these adobe walls, um, that pioneers and fur trappers and tribal people occupied for so long.

[00:14:46] Um, and it's very clear to me that locally there in and around Lana, there's a lot of concern that that could be gone, that that kind of structure and that kind of relic, um, might not be there in the future. Right. So, um, again, this tourism board meeting that I tuned into, you kind of heard those concerns, right? Um, you heard questions about could ownership change, uh, from the national park service to something maybe more local.

[00:15:13] Um, I mentioned Colorado Preservation Inc. listing this as an endangered place. Uh, that's an organization, um, tied to history of Colorado, tied to the state. Maybe there's some collaboration there. It sounds like collaboration is ongoing there, um, with the state in terms of what the future could look like there. Um, but lots of big questions about, like I said, an integral part of Colorado history.

[00:15:42] Um, and what that future looks like, that's what's being discussed right now. Like I said, National Park Service has this project webpage open. Concepts can be viewed there, early concepts. And they just want to know, you know, what maybe the, it's been around for 50 years now. And what could the next 50 years look like? That's kind of the big question. The big question right now. Big questions indeed. Yeah. Yeah. So here's a quick trivia question for you though.

[00:16:09] Before Ben's old fort was recreated in 1976, there was already a Vince Fort replica in Colorado. You know where it is? Really? Really? No. Yeah. So. I did not know. People of Morrison, Colorado might be familiar with the Fort Restaurant. The restaurant. The restaurant. That's right. I did know that. Originally created with the idea that it would be a living history museum between 1961 and 1963.

[00:16:34] It is inspired by and, you know, looks like Vince Fort. Now it's a restaurant today. So pretty interesting stuff. So if you want to, if you want to maybe check out another aspect or another representation of Ben's old fort, you can head on to that restaurant. And I think if I remember correctly, they've got some pretty wild things on the menu. Like a lot of like Colorado cuisine, you know, they got like bison elk and some pretty creative dishes if I remember, if I remember correctly.

[00:17:04] So definitely, definitely something to check out up in Morrison. Very Colorado restaurant. That might be one of the like most Colorado restaurants that you can find. Yeah. And it speaks also to just how significant this place has been in our conscience that here on the Front Range. Another sort of replica. I might have, I want to correct myself. I might have mentioned those cost estimates of a major rehab or a rebuild.

[00:17:31] That's listed, they're estimated between 30 and 40 million. You said 23, so even a little bit more expensive. Yeah. 30 to 40 million for a project like that. So. Big task. Big task. And I will certainly be following along with it. It's got to be said too. I mean, how important that place is to local economies there in Southeast Colorado. How important that piece of history, tourism is.

[00:17:59] I mean, if you look at top, top attractions of Southeast Colorado or even of the Eastern Plains region as an entirety, Benzold Fort pops up as often in the first one or two things. So, yeah. They've tracked a 1.1 million in economic impact annually on local communities around there. So. Yeah, man. Yeah, man.

[00:18:21] I'll definitely be following along with how things progress at Benzold Fort. 50 years later since that reconstruction. A lot of concerns. A lot of concerns about that structure. I mean, you know, the superintendent mentioned the way he put it was every time there's like a major rainstorm or a major snowstorm. He's kind of nervous about how that building is going to react. Just how susceptible it is to moisture. Yeah.

[00:18:49] Got a tree in my backyard that I do the same thing with. I'm like, is this the time when it comes down? It's going to snap. Yeah. Let's talk about something else. All right. Let's move along to a headline I was writing on yesterday. And the more I dug into it, the more just unbelievable it sounds. Or it sounds.

[00:19:12] So there's an invasive species in Colorado that can clone itself to the point where up to 500,000 members of this species can inhabit a single square meter of space. It is called the New Zealand mud snail. And it was recently detected at Carter Lake in Larimer County. It's been found in like 40 plus bodies of water around Colorado.

[00:19:36] But these little things are these little tiny snails that are like smaller than a grain of rice almost. The photo I used shows a penny on a rock. And then there's like 100 or like probably 40 of these snails kind of around the penny. They're very, very tiny. But basically, it's an invasive species. It's a nuisance species. All of these, whenever this species is invasive, it's almost entirely a female population.

[00:20:05] And these females can clone themselves asexually to where they can just mass produce offspring and have these rapid infestations that form. When you find native species, there are some males that exist. I think one breakdown I saw was like 5% males, 95% females in these groups. So the species itself is capable of producing sexually.

[00:20:26] But whenever you have these invasive species in America, I believe it was first discovered in America or North America in the 1980s in Idaho and Montana. It's generally entirely a female population that's just cloning itself to reproduce. And it just all of a sudden pops up and spreads. But yeah, these are around Colorado. So something to watch out for and keep in mind.

[00:20:48] Anytime you're on a Colorado body of water, you got to make sure that you are draining and washing and drying whatever water gear you're using before you take it somewhere else. And if you look up photos of these things, like they're so small, you could see that on a piece of gear and just think it's a speck of dirt. Maybe. Yeah. I saw one site describe them as like the size of a grain of sand at times.

[00:21:12] So extremely tiny, extremely hard to detect just with, you know, with a casual eye. So very important that you are following those best practices to limit the spread of the species. Basically, they outcompete the local, the native species in the water. So it can be detrimental there. With a lot of these species, too, there can be issues with like water infrastructure. If you get the infestation, like a pipe or something like that. Yeah. I think that's a big difference. Yeah.

[00:21:40] And I didn't see that specifically related to the New Zealand mud snail when I was digging into it. Heck of a lot. It's to cover a pipe. I mean, 500,000 in a one meter space, like one square meter space. So you got to think about that. Like, you know, a meter is like possibly three feet. So just like, here, let's see. How many, how many, what's, how's a meter compared to a yard? Chat. Chat. Not the most famous.

[00:22:08] Not the most famous cloning species in Colorado. Of course. It's not the most famous. It's not the most famous cloning species in Colorado. It is not. You know what that is. Yes. The species we talked about a lot. You mentioned it earlier in the episode. Sorry. Sorry. Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. But yeah. The quaking aspen. The quaking aspen. Our favorite tree of fall. The way that we see those is. Thanks to them. Sometimes cited as the largest organism on the planet. Yeah.

[00:22:38] So I think there's something floating in some ocean somewhere that they think is bigger than the aspen in terms of size and mass. A whale of some sort? It's like this giant blob of just, you know, you look at it and be like, this is like a layer of foam. But apparently that is a giant organism as well. So. But yeah. The aspen. Which there's debate, right? What's the. Where's that aspen grove? Is it? Pando. Is it Pando? Pando. Yeah. And Utah. And Utah. Well, what's the one in Colorado where there's debate over whether or not? Off Kevlar. Off Kevlar. Kevlar, yeah.

[00:23:07] Like Off Kevlar Pass. Yeah, I mean, Pando in Utah gets called the biggest just because that's, you know, that's the only place where like a concerted research effort was done. Yeah. Just how big it was, you know. It is. Obviously, it's huge. But yeah, I've heard scientists say like if such research was taken to Kevlar Pass, they might discover. Even bigger. A bigger clone on. The cool thing when it comes to aspen's whenever I'm thinking about it is how they're also

[00:23:34] interconnected on the ground to where if like one portion of the organism is struggling, they can divert resources, nutrient resources to that portion of the struggling area. And now like you look at it or not you, but like your average person, right, looks at it and they're just like, here's a forest. Little did you know the trees over here are helping to support the trees over here. Totally. Because these trees over here realize that the trees over here need some help, which is wild when you start thinking about how that works. Kind of poetic, isn't it? For our society. I would agree.

[00:24:02] I've heard it put, I mean, the best way to describe it, I think to describe it is like your hand. This is the organism. The palm. The palm. And these are the trees. Much more than five. Much more than five out there. But it gets the point across anyway. And yeah, you're like, yeah. My understanding is like you can tell who's all related based on the same pigment of green or yellow. The same pigment of the bark.

[00:24:30] I mean, that's how you can tell what the clones are. They look cool. Fall is about to be here too. Faster than we know it. Yeah, I got some candy corn. Yeah, I got some candy corn at the store yesterday. Just went for it. Just went for it. I don't think I've ever purchased candy corn in my life. I'm not going to lie. Really? Have you had some? Candy corn. It is. I'm going to fill these mugs with you. Every time I have it, I'm like, all right. That's all right. That's good enough. That's good enough. It's pretty sweet. Yeah. We might need to do a Halloween candy ranking here at some point. Ooh.

[00:25:00] I can do it right now. Rising up my rankings these days is high-chew. High-chew. Yeah. I like those high-chews, man. You know those little fruit things? Yeah, those are good. Those are good. Came by some at the airport not too long ago, and ever since I've like, when the gab was good. I don't eat much candy is my problem. Like, my favorite's Snickers with almonds. It's a – that's probably my favorite candy bar. It's pretty fringe. Snickers with almonds. Is it good? Try it. I respect that. Try it. I respect it. No, I like them.

[00:25:28] If I do get candy, it's often chocolate or Sour Patch Kids. I like those, but that's my, like, hiking candy, right? Yeah. Yeah. I don't really sit around and eat the Sour Patch Kids. I do love, man, dark chocolate and caramel. Anything with dark chocolate and caramel, that's my jam. I love those Reese's almonds that are out this morning. The dryness continues around Colorado, too. He's talking about fall, right? Yeah. And how we were talking a few weeks ago with how it might impact some fall colors.

[00:25:58] We'll know more when we get there. Maybe a little bit of an earlier showing than what we're expecting. Most recently, though, Cherry Creek Reservoir announced – or at least Colorado Parks and Wildlife announced Cherry Creek Reservoir was three inches away from shutting down. So at least shutting down the boat ramps. Yeah. Once that water drops to a level where they're just not usable again. Right now, 90.78%. Oh, well, so last week, 90.78% of the state was in drought.

[00:26:28] Currently, as of date of release today, 90.34%. So very, very slight improvement there. If for anyone wondering what all this rain has meant, it's pretty dang hard to make up for the long dry snow. Yeah, and I'll be curious to see the numbers next week, too. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I was in Greece. I didn't even see the rain. I heard about the rain. But apparently it was very wet a couple of weeks here. Yeah. Oh, yeah, dude. It's been like clockwork, at least here on the front range,

[00:26:56] between Denver and Colorado Springs just seemingly every afternoon. I think we're going to climb Pikes Peak this weekend. So I'm curious to see what the weather looks like day of and see how quickly we need to be off the run. For sure, I think. Yeah. As far as fall colors, man, I was told toward the end of July, it might not take too much as far as their response to be somewhat. Oh, okay.

[00:27:24] As far as if we got some rains through August, our time frames that we would expect for fall colors around the state could be pretty dang close to what you typically expect. And we're getting that rain. I think I did see, I forget who it was. I want to say it was one of the nine news guys, maybe, talking about how that later summer rain is most important as well to kind of echo what you're saying there. Yeah. As far as aspen goes? As far as fall colors go. Yeah. Right, right, right. As falls.

[00:27:54] Maybe it will be normal. It sounds like. Originally, if it were to stay as dry, that can trigger that early switch. But yeah, maybe if these fall colors hang around, it'll be normal. There is one. So I got one last thing I want to talk about today. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. This video went viral recently. And essentially, it shows people shooting each other with bows and arrows, right? And they have a little like pad on the end. And it's like paintball meets dodgeball.

[00:28:22] People are like ducking behind like little bunkers and stuff and trying to hit the other team. Like, yeah, like toy bow and arrows. But I mean, legit, like these things are flying. I mean, when you first said it, I was like, this is. Intense. And they're wearing face masks. This is Hunger Games. Yeah. It feels a little bit like that. I mean, and it looked really fun. And I saw the viral video and I was like, wow, that's so cool. And then flash forward a couple days later, one of my friends from Indiana had seen the viral video too.

[00:28:50] And they were like, hey, have you gone here yet? And then I like clicked into the profile. It's a Sherwood Showdown in Colorado Springs. Oh, that is cool. Yeah. This place that's been getting a ton of attention online. And yeah, essentially you like book it for you and your friends for like a 15-minute safety course and then like an hour of gameplay. And you're like behind paintball bunkers shooting bows and arrows. Is it bows and arrows when there's multiple bows and arrows? I bet you it's bows and arrows. Shooting bows and arrows at people, yeah. So we're like talking medieval paintball.

[00:29:20] Yeah, yeah. It looks very cool. And you're like trying to, it's kind of like dodgeball where you're like picking stuff up from the ground. Yeah. Like another arrow, like once you shoot it, someone that can pick it up and then shoot it back at you. But yeah, Sherwood Showdown in Colorado Springs. I haven't seen anything like it before. Looks awesome. Like I'm like, we need to plan a team building activity. Yeah. Sherwood. For like Sherwood Forest. I recalling that's like in Robin Hood, isn't it? Yeah. Probably right outside of Nottingham,

[00:29:49] which I have been to the Robin Hood pub in Nottingham, England. That would be the place to shoot 7,000 arrows. Yeah. It looks awesome though. So people listening, if you've seen the video and just kind of thought it was cool and liked the video and then moved on with your day like I did, it's in Colorado and you can go to it. Seems great for like a corporate work activity or like just to hang out with your friends or bachelor party activity. I bet it gets competitive. They have leagues too, which I mean,

[00:30:17] I would want to go and just watch that. I would want to go and just catch the arrow shot. Right. I wonder if that counts. A little more. A little more. Yeah. Yeah. You'd have to think that that would make it not count, right? Because if you catch a dodgeball in Dodgeball, they're out. Yeah. The shooters. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. Cool. I have to look that up. So yeah. Shout out Sherwood Showdown. Throw on some Lord of the Rings. Right. Showdown.

[00:30:45] That would be awesome if you could request certain music. Yeah. I've been watching Game of Thrones lately. Oh, yeah? For a second time through. Yeah. Have you watched the House of Dragons? I did watch the House of Dragons. Thoughts? I liked it. Yeah. I thought it was fine. A little bit, maybe a little bit darker than Game of Thrones. I feel like all the characters are bad characters in a way. Yeah. I don't want to give any spoilers to people, but it feels like everyone is like, they have like negative qualities, whereas I guess like in Game of Thrones, you've got like,

[00:31:15] you know, like people can root for like Jon Snow. He's like a nice guy. Yeah. He's like the only best guy. Right. Or what's his name? Gingery. Right? Yeah. Or Podrick. Yeah. That's another nice guy. Speaking of bad guys, good guys, I'm streaming Sopranos. I'm streaming Sopranos for the first time. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Four episodes in. So, he's got a lot to go there. Yeah. I think, okay, we're talking about TV shows.

[00:31:45] Probably about time. Get out of here. Yeah. I guess until next time, I'm Spencer. And we'll see you out there. Bye.