In this episode of the OutThere Colorado Podcast, Spencer and Seth chat about annoying things people do on the ski slopes, a photography exhibit you won't want to miss, new 'dark sky' parks, can't-miss mountain town meals, and more.
[00:00:08] Welcome to the OutThere Colorado Podcast. I'm Spencer McKee, here with Seth Boster. Hello, hello, hello. And once again, we've got some fun and exciting Colorado-themed stories to chat about with you today. We got all sorts of things from ice racing, we got some dark sky stuff, we got some food recommendations, so everyone always loves those. It's always food recommendations with us. I know, people like food. Everyone eats, right? We're talking a little John Fielder.
[00:00:38] We are. Maybe, yeah, some John Fielder stuff. Legend. The man who met the legend. Legendary photographer. Rest in peace, John Fielder. Indeed. Indeed. Yeah, great, great photographer. One of the best to ever, ever be in Colorado, for sure. No doubt. But the first thing chatting about today, had a little piece that we published on the OutThere Colorado website this week talking about annoying skier behavior. Oh yeah, we all know them. Yeah, right? A piece is titled, The 14 Most Annoying People You'll Encounter at Colorado.
[00:01:08] Colorado's Resorts. And yeah, so thought that'd be an interesting topic to start off the day. I'm just going to share one of mine just to kind of get us started and fitting because it happens at the start of the ski day. But I dubbed this person the human traffic cone. I'm reading. I got it pulled up right now, buddy.
[00:01:29] Basically, this is the person who decides that they want to save spots for their friends in a parking lot as everyone is trying to get to the ski resort. And they decide they're just going to stand in the vacant spots and just be like, I'm waiting on friends. Who knows when they'll arrive? They're probably an hour and a half away in I-70 traffic. But it doesn't matter. This person's still going to do that. So yeah, Seth, what do you got? That's a top-
[00:01:57] I'm going through your list right now. I'm trying to see what I identify most. Yeah. The need for speed person, for sure. Yeah, need for speed person. Just because, I mean, as I'm going through this list and again, just kind of looking at what I connect with. You know, I mean, one thing is being annoying. And being, you know, the speed demon is being annoying, but also risking being dangerous, to be clear here.
[00:02:20] You know what I mean? Like, there's being annoying, and there's a lot of that, but there's also being just dangerous. Yeah. And that's got to be up there for me, man, you know? The need for speed person is the person going too fast down the mountain, right? Of course, we're all annoyed by the person going too slow, too. Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. But more annoyed, maybe more terrified by the person going too fast. And yeah, whether there's control there or not, you know, it's like there's designated spots where you're allowed to ski fast.
[00:02:49] So go there if you are skiing fast. But, I mean, I moved out to Colorado 10 years ago and honestly learned to ski pretty much then. And I remember how terrifying it was whenever you'd be, like, trying to get your stuff together on the slopes after a fall, just to get, like, blasted by by someone speeding by. In the same vein, too, the people who spray you while you're down. I see that annoying. I see that annoying. Granted, I'm guilty of trying to spray friends before.
[00:03:16] There's a great slow motion video of me trying to spray a friend and falling and him capturing that. So a little bit of instant karma there for me. I got to call out the growing influencers, man. The selfies. The mid-run selfies, dude. Yeah, the wannabe influencer. Not big on that. Yeah, and, I mean, I think that's one of those things where, like, especially if you're not going to the ski resorts all the time, you want to capture that moment. You want to share it with your friends and family.
[00:03:45] Show them how great of a day you had. Yep. And, obviously, nothing wrong with that. The way it's described in this piece is that person who tends to really take it up a level with, like, you know, the multiple GoPros and the selfie stick. That's the big one for me is the selfie stick. When they're swinging that thing around. While they're going. While they're going. And clearly, they're looking up at the selfie stick instead of looking at what's ahead of them. Yeah. Or in a lift line with the selfie stick. Like, I've been hit by selfie sticks multiple times on lift lines.
[00:04:15] It's slightly annoying. Yeah. Right? You know, it's just one of those things that puts me a little bit on edge. Get the picture at the top of the run. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Right? I hear you when you say, you know, everyone wants to capture that memory. Of course. Yeah. I don't. I never. I've never not taken a photo on the mountain when I'm skiing. Yeah, you should. You should. But not while we're. Not while you're going down. Not putting other people at risk. Right? Yeah. One of the ones. So, this is one of my top pet peeves. It happens at the climbing gym a lot, too, for whatever reason.
[00:04:46] But the, like, self-proclaimed expert. Right? Someone. The unsolicited advice. Unsolicited advice. When you're just, like, especially at the climbing gym. For sure. Sitting there trying to figure out a bouldering problem. And then someone with no context of the situation, you know, they come up and they're like, here's how I did it and why I'm the best climber here. Yep. Same thing goes with the ski resorts. It's, you tend to get those people on the lift that are like, that just can't stop, you know, talking about all the awesome stuff they can do. Yep.
[00:05:16] Name dropping the people they've skied with, the places they've been. Yep. Pointing out errors. From people below being like, oh, that guy's carves would look better if he did this and this and this, you know? Yep. It's like, you know, just chill. Like, I'm not going up to the ski. And your average person isn't necessarily going up to the ski mountains to really improve their abilities, right? Like, there's lessons for that. There's online videos for that. They're just up there for a good day. Yep. But the abilities they have to use, so to speak.
[00:05:43] I'm very uncomfortable with, like, with suggesting anything what people should do outside. So, yeah. Like, my mind is going to non-ski, but, like, last summer. Was that last summer or two summers ago? Going up the backside of Pikes Peak, Devil's Playground, right? And we just had the idea of Devil's Playground, no summit, right? And it was like, I don't know, probably noon or one or so up in Devil's Playground.
[00:06:12] We needed to turn back, obviously. And here comes this guy coming up. How much farther is the summit? You know, and you could just tell not prepared. And even in those situations, I hate to be like, don't go, man, you know? But, like, there's, like, a situation where it's like, where he's like, well, are you guys going? And I was like, oh, heck no. It's way too late to try to push for the summit. The storms are coming in, man. No way. We don't have enough water. You can be subtle with the advice. That was my subtle way of being like, come on down, brother.
[00:06:42] And that's nice and courteous. And he's kind of, like, you know, soliciting some advice later in a way. Right. Yeah, it's that unsolicited advice. Right. Sorry to get off on a tangent, but that's, yeah. Oh, yeah. Every time it gets me. The other thing, too, and another thing I've been guilty of, probably, but the mid-run group hang, where people just kind of sit in the middle of a run and just hang out. It's like, I mean, as long as they're in a visible spot, you know, it's like, okay, no harm done.
[00:07:11] But whenever they're doing it, like, under a, kind of under a little jump or, like, around a turn or, like, in a very inconvenient spot. Yep. That's when it gets very annoying. I see you're the surprised lift bar putter downer. Oh, yeah. Hot topic in Colorado these days, too, with all these falls from lifts. Yeah, yeah. Real talk.
[00:07:30] But, yeah, apparently, so, and I've never skied in Europe, but apparently in Europe, putting the lift bar down is, like, essentially mandated, from what I understand, at some of these resorts where you'll get lifties yelling at you if you don't put the bar down. Mm-hmm. So there might be a little bit of a cultural difference there, too, where you have some international skiers coming to Colorado and just assuming everyone's prepared for that bar.
[00:07:52] But the number of times I've been hit in the helmet with the bar coming down is I'm trying to get situated on the lift or my ski poles get, you know, almost knocked out of my hand by this bar coming down. Very annoying. And it, I mean, put the bar down. It's safer, right? But, yeah, say bar, just like Seth. Right there. Do exactly as Seth does. Bar. Bar. Should have started the podcast with that. Bar. Bar.
[00:08:18] Also, the free concert person, the people that are skiing with a speaker going down. That's what I was going to say next. Yeah, it goes the same with the, you know, being on the trail and it's like, obviously, we all have different music tastes, you know, and hearing some LMFAO or whatever blasting out of someone's speakers as they're going down the slopes. Am I the only one who listens to Rocky Mountain High when I ski? I don't. On low? I don't, but that sounds like a great decision.
[00:08:45] Did I just like expose myself to a bunch of criticism on that one? I think everyone already knows you're fully committed. Just one time. In Colorado here, Seth. Just one time. Just one run through John Denver's. I've got some of those, the helmet, the little speakers for the helmet, and they work pretty well. I think the brand that has Alec, I want to say. There's another one that has Bigfoot on it that you can find at REI. Yeah.
[00:09:10] But those work pretty well, and they connect to your phone, and they're not in your ear, so you can still hear things going on around you. Yep. Yeah, I don't listen to music. I listen to John Denver as I'm going, to be clear. I don't listen to music when I'm skiing. Yeah, it's pretty much if I remember to charge my headphones, I'll throw something on. But man, it will ruin some songs for you.
[00:09:35] I had a really bad wipeout one time and fractured a rib, and some moguls over on Breck's peak ten. It was low lighting. It was the end of the day. Legs are tired, and you couldn't see all the bumps that I should have seen. And yeah, just kind of got launched off one, landed it, launched off another, and then fell right on my ribs. And I just remember the music that was playing. It was just in my head. And I still haven't been able to listen to that song.
[00:10:04] It's like my bad luck song. I'm not even going to name it. Your bad omen. Just because it brings bad vibes. The song that shall not be spoken. Yeah, and I just remember laying on the ground when totally knocked out of me for minutes, probably, as my friends below are looking at me. I'm trying to give them a thumbs up. Yeah, I remember that song just playing on blast and not being able to move very well. And I'm just like, ah. Sorry, buddy. Sorry, buddy. Got to get out of here. But yeah, so hey, that's some annoying slope behaviors to avoid.
[00:10:34] Yes. Yeah, if you think of something we didn't mention there, let us know. Shoot us an email at info at outtherecolorado.com. Bar. But yeah, so Seth, what do you got? Seth, Seth is all the more in-depth reporting. I'm over here just complaining about people on the ski slopes. But Seth, you had some interesting stuff going out recently, one of which was the Dark Sky Initiative. Oh, yeah. So everyone loves escaping into nature, and obviously limited light pollution makes those stars more visible.
[00:11:04] So this Dark Sky Initiative is related to that. Tell us about it, Seth. So yeah, Colorado Parks and Wildlife recently announced they were going to be pursuing this status, this international dark sky park status for a dozen parks in the state. And I bet we as Coloradans, we're all pretty aware of this designation by now. You know, Great Sand Dunes has a lot of buzz for it. Black Canyon of the Gunnison. Black Canyon of the Gunnison. Westcliff.
[00:11:34] So towns and parks and open spaces. Yeah. There's something like a couple dozen. We chatted about this a few weeks ago. Oh, that's right. Because, yeah, the state just got its 12th park in, what was it? Over by Browns Canyon National. Over by Buena Vista. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So there's, you know, there's a pretty strict set of requirements to achieve this status that gets all laid out in an application.
[00:12:00] You know, there's equipment for light monitoring and there's pledges for continued light monitoring and education and infrastructure removal slash addition. You know, all that kind of stuff goes with it. And so, yeah, it's been a big push for Governor Polis. A couple years ago, he signed a bill kind of celebrating the approach to the status.
[00:12:25] Quote-unquote inherent to the character and allure of the state called light pollution a growing problem. And very much this thought of the status good for rural tourism. Yeah. You know, just when people hear about a stargazing, a great stargazing opportunity brings more people than maybe we would even think. Like I went to a fluorescent, fluorescent, is that how you pronounce? It's fluorescent, by the way. I always say fluorescent. Yeah. That's how I've heard it. Yeah. Fossil beds. Let us know, everyone. Very cool.
[00:12:54] All you folks. Petrified redwoods out there. All you folks listening in fluorescent, let us know. But, yeah, like, it was like a star party, as they call it, you know, some Friday night. And I think there was like 60 people there. Dang. Yeah. That's a pretty good turnout. So, anyway. Yeah. Yeah. These 12 state parks being Crawford, 11 Mile, also kind of around Florissant. Yeah.
[00:13:19] Elkhead Reservoir, Golden Gate Canyon, Highline Lake, John Martin Reservoir, Mueller State Park, Rifle Gap, State Forest State Park, Steamboat Lake, Staunton State Park, and Trinidad Lake. Nice. Those are the 12. Going for it. Add some appeal to the state parks. You know, it always shocks me how much state parks tend to get overlooked by everybody.
[00:13:43] Like, we have so many great state parks here, but instead you kind of see people, you know, fixated on the 14ers or more of these, like, little ski towns. Yeah. I mean, obviously the, what is it, the Keep Colorado Wild Pass or whatever that was that was added to the license registration process recently where it's like 29 bucks for annual state park. A season pass. Yeah. Whereas, like, a day pass getting in is, like, anywhere from 10 to 12 bucks, I think, these days. Yeah. These places. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:14:12] So, that gets automatically added to every Colorado driver's license now unless they opt out. So, maybe that brings more people. But, yeah. I mean, maybe. It's funny you say that because I'm waiting to get the visitation report for the past year. So, yeah. Maybe next week we'll be talking about that. Yeah. I'd be curious to see if there's an uptake there. I know it's steadily dropped since COVID, since 2020. Yeah. Coming back to a baseline. Yeah. That would make sense. It's kind of every activity has kind of done that, too, in terms of outdoor recreation.
[00:14:42] Yeah. It is interesting, though, because there are definitely certain activities that really cater to state parks, like boating. It's where our water is. Yeah. Our state parks are water. Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah. In terms of, like, trails and stuff, I feel like people overlook them. Like, we don't really hear much about, in terms of, like, all of our reader emails and stuff. We don't really get many questions about the state parks. So, definitely should not be skipped.
[00:15:04] It's good for, you know, I've always thought, like, you know, like if there's families or, you know, people with young kids that just kind of want some security, want your signs on well-defined trails, you know, state parks are good for that. Yeah. And, like, even, you know, we're both here in Colorado Springs, like, Cheyenne Mountain State Park, I don't see many people at all. Never. Yeah. And at the same time, at North Cheyenne Canyon Park, it's busting at the seams. Yeah.
[00:15:34] You know what I mean? I mean, I think it is that, like, $10 entry fee. But that's that. I mean, if you're paying $29 on your license already, you might as well take advantage of it. Also, in the region, Mueller State Park, especially in the fall, I mean, it's a must. Yeah. Must go in the fall. Known for those colors. And it's on the way to Cripple Creek area, too, which is another nice little fall environment to explore. State Forest and State Forest State Park in the northwest corner of the state should be on people's bucket list.
[00:16:03] State Forest State Park. Have you been? I have not been. It gets called. It's huge, though, right? Yeah. It's the biggest one, yeah. Are you looking up the numbers? Yeah, 71,000 acres. It gets called, like, the mini Rocky Mountain National Park. And it lives up to the name. I mean, the mountains in there, the Never Summers. You see the Medicine Bows in there. The Noku Crags are these gorgeous formations that you see in there. It is a sprawling, wild place. Decent chance to see moose.
[00:16:30] It's where moose were first introduced in the state back in the 70s in that area. Oh, wow. So they very much roam State Forest State Park. These photos are absolutely beautiful. Yeah, and for reference, that's about a quarter of the size of Rocky Mountain National Park, too. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, that probably puts it, I would venture to say, bigger than at least one or two of our national parks here. Probably. In mind. Probably. Great camping. Yurts. They're really well known for the yurts, you know? Oh, nice. Go with your buddies and go get a yurt. Yeah, there's just gorgeous high alpine lakes in there.
[00:17:01] And you probably miss out on a lot of the crowds, like you said. I don't think we've ever got a single question ever in the Out There Colorado email about State Forest State Park. Yeah. They tend to be like Mueller is one where we do get, and Golden Gate, we get questions. Golden Gate is also super cool. Yeah. Yeah, accessible. That's the word, you know, that I was kind of, about the appeal of some of these places, you know? I think that's it. I think you can feel safe in a state park. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, there's rangers. I think that's good for people, you know?
[00:17:29] And still get some of that lack of crowds that you might also see on BLM land or on National Forest land, but with a little bit of that, like, signage that helps, those amenities that help. Also, Front Range-ish. Well, no, Front Range, for sure. I don't know why I said ish. Staunton State Park, you know, around Conifer. That's a big, wild place that, gosh, a few years, three, four years ago, they opened kind of a new trailhead that gets you closer to the postcard image there, which is, is it Elk? Elk Falls?
[00:17:59] The big waterfall? Yeah, I think you're right. It's called the tallest waterfall closest to Denver, I think is how people refer to it. I think you're right. But that's a great hike. Dang. That's a great hike. Elk Falls. Also, Roxborough State Park. I haven't been there. That's on my list, though. But it looks like it's, you know, it's like Garden of the Gods. Denver's Garden of the Gods. Yeah. Yeah, very cool. It's kind of like a mix between the Boulder Flatirons with how those rocks are kind of shaped by that uplift. Yeah, I'm with you. Pretty cool.
[00:18:29] It's interesting how overlooked the state parks get. Maybe more people will see with dark skies, right? Yeah, state parks, very overlooked. But if you're looking to skip the crowds and a little bit of the chaos of some of these more populated areas, yeah, check them out. I mean, yeah, I always think about Cheyenne Mountain because, like, I mean, the second most iconic mountain in the Pikes Peak region. No one there. No one there. Yeah, I did that. There's a 15 and a half mile trail or something like that to the summit round trip. Dixon Trail. Dixon Trail. It's really cool. You go past an aircraft crash site that's up there. Yeah.
[00:18:59] And there's, like, a whole little memorial there and, like, some signage that explains about that and provides some information about that. Then there's an old cabin there that was one of the first, like, homesteaders in the area. Yeah. And there's, like, this little ridge you can climb around on. I think it's called, like, Dragon's Tail Ridge or something like that. Yeah. Very cool, though. And, I mean, I probably encountered throughout that day. It takes a lot longer, that trail specifically. That's a big boy hike. It's vertical. It takes a lot longer than you'd expect. Massive Aspen Grove at the top, too. Yeah.
[00:19:29] Massive Aspen. Yeah. It would be a great place for fall. But, yeah, I would, I mean, I probably saw, you know, less than 10 people on that trail the whole day. And I was probably on that trail for, you know, six hours or something. Yep. I packed for running. And then quickly discovered I was not feeling it on a 96-degree day. I do hear about people running. That's a good big-time challenge. Oh, yeah. This is great running at Cheyenne Mountain State Park. A lot of the state parks have great running.
[00:19:58] But, yeah. So, yeah. There you go. Add some of those to your bucket list. Yeah. Always coming in with some recommendations, aren't we, buddy? State Forest State Park with the big recommendation. I'm serious. Bucket list, man. It's bucket list worthy for sure. I need to check that one out. Yep. So, next thing, kind of also related to bucket list stuff. Mountaintown Meals, specifically looking at resort towns and some popular food that you can get at resorts.
[00:20:28] And I'm going to get this right. So, one of our riders, Piper Russell, was covering this topic earlier this week. And he was basically looking at a few of the must-try Mountaintown Meals around ski resorts in Colorado. And forgive me for a second here. Pull that up. Pull this up to make sure I get this right. Right.
[00:20:58] So, in my mind, immediately went to, I kind of do this feature every now and then where I, like, call around asking locals, like, how to hit some of these destinations. And there's definitely food involved there. Oh, yeah. I got some local tips along with this. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I've got a couple of my favorites as well. One of them that was on this list was also one of my favorites. And for some reason, our internet doesn't want to pull this up. Maybe I better try. Oh, wait. Here we go. Here we go. Slowly but surely. Really.
[00:21:24] And this time, Seth will go back to singing his Christmas song. And everyone will tune out. What are some of your favorites? One of my favorites. Yeah. While we're waiting, while this is pulling up. Yeah. One place that I always recommend and everyone's like, yo, this place is great. Definitely going to be back is Prosset in Frisco. It's not really exactly. I've heard you talking about this one. Yeah. They got to start paying you, I feel like. Right. Yeah.
[00:21:52] No, it's in Frisco, right? Which is just kind of a Summit County hub for all those resorts up there. So it's not on a ski resort per se. But Prosset is essentially it's right on their main street. They have a wide variety of sausages that are available. And it's like this Bavarian, like German-themed restaurant. They do liters of beer that you can get. That's cool.
[00:22:20] And you can get like your, and it's all like this like German beer that you can't really find. They have it on draft there. You probably can't find it many other places in Colorado. Yeah. And then there's a little antique store right next, right next door, which is also very cool to, cool to check out. I might've mentioned it before, but I found a little map there that was like a Conoco map from like 1937 of Colorado. And it was like 30 bucks and bought that.
[00:22:46] It's really cool because it has like all the state before like I-70 and I-25 and just all these old roads. All right. So yeah, this, going back to this, the must eat meals at ski lodges around Colorado. So basically this comes from a ski magazine report on must eat meals around the US. Two of those meals were at Colorado resorts.
[00:23:13] One of them is the Bacon Bloody Mary and barbecue at- I don't know. Arapahoe Basin. Oh, oh, yeah. Of course. The Bacon Bloody. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. And they're saying to get this from the Mid Mountain Lodge, the Black Mountain Lodge. Got it. Yeah. You know, it's like kind of like up that first lift there. Have surrounded by great views too. So definitely a good spot to get lunch during a ski day.
[00:23:41] And that Bacon Bloody Mary is definitely among the best blood days I've had in Colorado. And I think you can- No better way to end the day, right? Yeah. Right. Or start the day. Drink responsibly though. But I think you can also get a side- I think it's called a sidecar. Sidecar. Oh, yeah. Multiple uses in the- Little beer. In the world of alcohol. But yeah, a little beer. It's a little Coors Light. It used to be a dollar to add it onto your bloody.
[00:24:07] So you get a bloody and then a little like eight ounce Coors Light to wash it down. Inflation. Yeah. Inflation. Who knows how much? It might still be a dollar. It might be 50 cents. I haven't been to A-Base in this season. I haven't either. We were up there for doing the Via Ferrata project recently for- I remember that. For one of the Out There Colorado clients. And yeah, very cool Via Ferrata up there in the summer. Yeah. Yeah, I've done it twice now. And both times were very enjoyable. Great views in that area. A-Basin will always be one of my favorite resorts.
[00:24:36] It was pretty much the resort where I started learning how to ski years ago. And yeah, back when it was on the Epic Pass. So- Yeah. That's a nice crash course into skiing at A-Basin. Yeah, my buddy was pretty much like, we can go up and do this two or three days. And he's like, expert level skier, right? And he's like, we'll do this two or three days. And then you're just going to follow me down the mountain. So he helped me for like two or three days. And it worked out fine. And then I was just following him down the mountain. So my form is awful.
[00:25:06] Yeah. But- I learned at Crested Butte of all places. Yeah, Crested Butte. Also an expert level resort compared to some of these other options. I was about to say no place to learn, but I wouldn't want to say that. But there are probably better places. It's a crash course. Sometimes like crash course is important. Very literally. Very literally. Speaking of Crested Butte, got to be the Slogar. Oh, Slogar. I mean, if we're talking restaurants, I mean, that was my proud discovery of 2024 was the Slogar. For sure.
[00:25:36] Fried chicken dinner at the Slogar. It's delicious. And family style sides. Family style, yeah. Also not on the mountain, though. That's in the town of Crested Butte, right? Yeah. But definitely one to add to this. Which is how a lot of my, what comes to my mind, I have a lot of off the mountain stuff. Yeah. But this is all on the mountain that we're talking about. Yeah. I will say, like, I generally don't eat on the mountain because I'm like, yeah. Dude, I like you never do. Yeah. It's just, it can be expensive. So it's not for everyone. But those who are, here you go.
[00:26:04] Oh, and the second recommendation, so not far from Arapahoe Basin, is Loveland Ski Areas Ptarmigan Roost Cafe. Yeah. Green Chili Dogs is the mini item. So also very Colorado style, you know, green chili dogs. I'll go for that. I like it. Green chili hot dogs in there. Probably reasonable, too, if it's a hot dog. Good old Loveland. Yeah. They won't jack you at Loveland. Yeah.
[00:26:29] So those are the two great ski hill meals. Ski hill meals. Ski hill meals. You know what I'm saying. Those are the two great ones that were pointed out by Ski Magazine as a must-try meals. Okay. But yeah, I mean, no shortage of good food. So around Loveland, another fairly recent discovery, but right off the interstate in Georgetown, Cooper's on the Creek. Cooper's on the Creek. It's like the first thing you see when you exit into Georgetown.
[00:26:59] It is super tasty. Really? Yeah. Well, we were just talking about Georgetown a little bit, which I guess we have several things to talk about Georgetown here in a second. It's featured primarily today. Yeah. Gonella Pass Brewery just closed. So another brewery that was beloved. Bites the Dust in Colorado. It was a 4.7 star rated brewery. Hundreds of reviews. Did it overlook the lake? Is that the one that overlooked the lake? Do you know what I'm talking about? I'd never been there.
[00:27:29] So essentially there were two breweries in Georgetown. Gonella Pass Brewing Company and now the one remaining company after February 2nd, I believe is Gonella's last day, will be Cabin Creek Brewing. Also, it was voted the best new brewery in Colorado in 2020 with 4.5 stars on Google reviews. So there is still a good option in Georgetown there. But yeah, the scary trend of just the craft brewing industry kind of getting hit hard.
[00:27:58] Got a news release last week from the Colorado Beverage Coalition that reported 41 brewery closures in 2024. 41? Dang, statewide. And how many opened? I'm sure that number's out there too. I'm not sure. So there's always that. Give and take, right? But yeah, just a hard, we've talked about this. Tough year for... Yeah. Which is why we're here with some recommendations, right? Get people going to... It's a pretty nationwide struggle too. No doubt.
[00:28:24] There was some reporting from Gazette's Stephanie Earls about this a couple weeks ago. But 2024 was the first year since the early 2000s when brewery closings nationwide outpaced openings. I did come by that. Yeah. Yeah. It says 335 breweries opened in 2024. What, 399 called it quits. Dang. And so you said 41 in Colorado.
[00:28:54] So that's a significant amount of those breweries that closed being in Colorado. Proud brewery state. Yeah. Yeah. Basically, the punchline of that report was that breweries opening up in kind of more mature markets are having a harder time. Whereas if a brewery is able to open up in a town with no breweries, then it's a little bit easier for them to hang on. But yeah.
[00:29:17] I mean, and reasons for those closures were essentially cited as basically the costs are going up, prices are going up for the beer that gets served to the consumer, right? And then that essentially has people either go into breweries less or they're just not going at all. So, and it is true. Like I paid, still in the mix of dry January at this point. Hanging strong. Yeah. Hanging strong.
[00:29:46] But a couple more days to go. Yeah. A couple more days. We can make it. We can make it. It was over at Seven's Gate Tap Room down in old Carrhouse City area. Love that place. Yeah. It's a great place. And they always have a $5 beer on tap, which is great unless you're doing dry January and have to stay to the non-alcoholic beers. But yeah. Love that place. It's owned by Cerberus, I believe. Right? Same family. Yeah. And you can get all the food there.
[00:30:15] And they're like, do you want the 12 ounce or the 16 ounce? There were two options. And I'm like, I don't know. For some reason, I was still like, I guess I'll pay a dollar more for the 16 ounce beer. I don't know why I did that. You know, like it's, I guess, a little bit more of non-alcoholic beer. But either way, got the non-alcoholic beer and it was $8 for the 16 ounce can of non-alcoholic beer. Which again, it is kind of a specialty thing. But it's on par with their other prices, which are very standard.
[00:30:44] I mean, I think Sevens Gate's relatively affordable when it comes to craft beer. I definitely remember the $5 pints. I mean, you know, gosh, I love, shout out Fossil Brewery here in Colorado Springs. Yeah, Fossil. Hides out and I really like Fossil. But yeah, I remember $5 pints there. And, you know, times are the times, that's all right. But I think, I remember remembering like in Fort Collins, you know, which kind of gets called the beer capital. Yeah. I reported on the industry there like, I don't know, four or five years ago.
[00:31:13] I don't know, something like that. And what I kept hearing was like, it's getting really saturated. And the simple way of describing it is competition, right? It's just hotly competitive. And one of the things I hadn't thought about that I kept hearing from people is, I mean, the taps. Getting into a restaurant's, getting on the restaurant's taps, you know, is a very coveted thing. Getting in restaurants is a very coveted thing. That makes sense. And that's harder and harder to do, right? Just more competition, yeah.
[00:31:43] So the small guys have a tough time breaking in. Yeah, got to be a hard industry to break into, for sure. Yeah, and I mean, I think honestly, like one of the things that I do kind of like that's popped up recently is kind of the craft brewery, like memberships. Where everywhere, like if you're going to be a regular at a craft brewery. Get a mug? Yeah, they all sell their like mug club type of thing. And usually that comes with like, so I'm a mug club member at Urban Animal, right? Gotcha. Okay. Which I've mentioned a few times. A proud member. Proud member.
[00:32:13] And yeah, I love the beer. So I was like, I'm going to have to get the membership because it comes with an extra four ounces per pour or four to six ounces per pour. That can go a long way, yeah. You get free crawlers every month. Wow. Which are valued at like, I think they sell them at like 14, 15 bucks. Yeah. And then you get, they do member days where member fills are like five bucks, I think, on Tuesdays. And there's like a happy hour.
[00:32:38] So like, still possible to go to craft breweries and save money, but you kind of got to find a program like that. Yeah. The crowd, I think it was like 200, I want to say like 220 for the year, but the crawlers alone would be like 300. So it kind of pays for itself in that regard. But yeah, I mean, that might be the strategy moving forward is the beer membership. Incentives. Yeah. Incentives. Do you got any one last food or food stop in ski country? Ooh.
[00:33:08] I was going to throw one out. Yeah, throw it out. Trying to remember what, how old it just turned. Yeah. 50 years. In Frisco. You threw out a Frisco recommendation. I guess I'm throwing out a Frisco recommendation. The Moose Jaw. Oh yeah. Classic. Moose Jaw. Just turned 50 years last year. And that place still has a good like, kind of like a divey vibe in a sense. Big time. Like, yeah. Yeah. You know what I learned? They did a recent music video in there of a hit song. Sky High Colorado.
[00:33:39] What is that song? I don't know. I'm looking it up. When I taste tequila. Country song? Oh no, you keep singing. It's entertaining. They did the music video. All right, here we go. Is it called Tequila by Dan and Shay? Yes. There we go. I don't know these things. Shot. Let's see how many views this has. Let's see. I have not heard it. They have 1.8 million. I bet you've heard it. I've never even heard it. It has 156 million views. Yeah. You've probably been sitting in Urban Animal and it comes on every now and then. I don't know.
[00:34:08] It's not really the Urban Animal vibe, but I wish we could play it. If you were a Texas Roadhouse, it's played at your Texas Roadhouse probably a few times. All right. I'll listen to Dan. It's a country song. I've never even heard of Dan and Shay. Apparently 1.8 million people are subscribing to them on YouTube. They made a hit. Thanks in part to the Moose Jaw. Yeah. That's awesome. I think you see parts of Hoosier Pass in that music video. I'm about to watch this video real quick. That's crazy. Yeah. I got to meet Mama Moose and she was like, there was kind of an older lady who started the whole thing.
[00:34:39] Really neat story. I wrote about it. But yeah, she was like, they did a music video in here. Did you know that? I was like, no. That's so funny. She's like, it was about tequila. This is the place to do that. This is the place. Is it the pool hall scene? Yeah. Is that the, yeah, I'm watching it right now. There we go. Let's see if these guys have any connection to Colorado. This is what we like about the podcast format and the help of Google. But you don't necessarily go to Relieve the Music Video.
[00:35:07] You go for the chili, red chili. Red chili, okay. It's just the burger and just the local vibe for sure. Just, you know. Huh. Well, everything else changes around there. The moose jaw stays the same for sure. The jaw. Love that place. Well, there we go. A recommendation from Seth. One of the people in the know. We've always got our recommendations, don't we, bud? All Colorado travel. Oh yeah. What do we got here next? Maybe we go to one of these news stories.
[00:35:37] Yeah. So this was an interesting story. Covered it this morning, actually. But kind of, you know, a message for people to be careful when they're driving around Colorado during winter conditions. So obviously we had some sub-freezing temperatures pretty recently. And this report was from the Summit County Sheriff's Office.
[00:36:02] Basically, a mother hadn't heard from her son in a few days. And she knew that he was planning to travel from Idaho Springs to Florissant. Yeah. And lost contact with him. So... Or it might have been Idaho. I think that was a typo in the report. But yeah. So Idaho to Florissant. Lost contact with him. But then she decided to check his Apple AirTag location. So there was an AirTag on his car.
[00:36:30] And it showed that his vehicle was stopped along Highway 9 in Summit County, Colorado. So she relayed this information to local deputies. The deputies were able to track that vehicle down. And they found it not running. So the car was turned off. And it was totally frosted over. For the most part, at least. And there was one small little hole in the frost in the window that allowed them to kind of peer inside of this vehicle. They found...
[00:36:59] Or they saw the back of a man's head in that vehicle appearing to be shivering. Right? And at this time, it's like negative six degrees. So very, very cold in Colorado. And in this part of Colorado. They essentially get into the vehicle. The man is not responsive. So the deputies essentially spent their time warming him up while they waited for EMS services to arrive. And then he was transported to a hospital.
[00:37:29] They didn't really give any additional information about his condition. But, I mean, it sounds like he was at least alive. And honestly, probably not alive for much longer in that type of a scenario. Just, you know, if you're in a car in frigid conditions, you know. It's like, and the car's not on. You're as susceptible to those temperatures as you would be otherwise. So, yeah. An important reminder to make sure you always have your survival gear,
[00:37:58] your winter-themed survival gear, we'll call it, in your car while you're traveling around the state. The vehicle was also found, so it was on the side of the road, but it had also been blocked in by snowplow snow. So, like, a bunch of snow had been pushed up against it, too. So maybe potentially preventing even getting out of the vehicle. You know, that could be a scenario. Where if you can't open your door, you can't get out of the vehicle. Maybe you don't have connection. But, yeah, some of those items, you know, a wool blanket is going to be a crucial one in this scenario.
[00:38:27] Just something that can keep you warm, extra layers. Yeah, and, I mean, it's a scary situation. One of those terrible reminders, yeah. Yeah, thankfully, it sounds like kind of a best-case scenario. We found it at the right time and hopefully got the carry needed. But, yeah, so also in news, Seth, you want to chat about John Fielder, or at least the latest project involving John Fielder. Yeah, so the History Colorado Center is doing, like,
[00:38:55] I think it's a five-year run of rotating exhibits from the legendary nature photographer. And so they did one. And this is all on the heels of him donating his life's work, like thousands of pictures after his death in 2023, after his battle with cancer. He donated all of his work to the public domain. And History Colorado is kind of the steward of that collection. And they're doing, like I said, this run of galleries for him.
[00:39:22] And the first one was what you'd expect, all these spectacular mountain scenes, right? And the second one is probably not what you would expect. What is it, Seth? It is showcasing the eastern plains. Ooh. Yeah. No one ever talks about the eastern plains. Even less than state parks. They talk about it. Yeah. It's funny. I have some stories planned for Lamar. I'm going to be going to Lamar pretty soon. And I just learned that they call them, or at least some of them, call themselves Lamartians.
[00:39:54] I was like, you've got to be kidding. I like it. That's the best thing I've heard since the Manitoids of Manitou Springs. I like that, too. And what is it, the Hell's Minions of Boulder? Oh. Or Satan's Minions? The Running Club. Yeah, the Satan's Minions. The Satan's Minions of Boulder. Yeah. It got me thinking, gosh, yeah, what are some other stuff out there? We need a cool little name for our group here. Well, count me a fielder, right? I'm a big fan of John Fielder. I was fortunate to get to know him throughout his life, and just really appreciated his view of Colorado. Yeah, and how many photos did he donate again? Thousands. I can't remember.
[00:40:24] I think tens of thousands. Yeah, I think it was tens of thousands. And they're free for any sort of use, I think, right? Yep. Even commercial use. Even commercial, yeah. But yeah, every inch of Colorado, almost, it feels like. Yeah, well, I was looking back. He took pride. He would always say he covered. He traveled in some way or another, whether it was on foot or snowmobile or on llama, right? He'd have pack llamas carry his stuff with him deep into wilderness. Oh, yeah. That's how it's cool.
[00:40:53] Or by raft or whatever. He always said he covered every square inch of Colorado. Yeah. I believe it. Well, and it sounds almost hard to believe, but when you see these photos, and you see this massive collection, which you can find online pretty easily. Yeah, it is. Like, anything in Colorado that you can come up with. I would sometimes challenge him. Has he been here? He's been there, yeah. Yeah. I would sometimes challenge him because I'd do something on what I thought was a fairly obscure place. Do I suppose you have any photos? Yeah, of course.
[00:41:24] Including the Pawnee Buttes. The Pawnee Buttes. That's the two big, like, buttes out there. Yeah, yeah. He loved the Pawnee Buttes. Really? Yeah. Why was that? Because I'm trying to remember what he would tell me, but very quiet, very still, very surprising, and colorful. I mean, he definitely thought of the plains as, like, very colorful. Really? Where people maybe wouldn't think of that. Yeah. He saw a lot of color in the plains with the way the shadows were, with the vegetation out there,
[00:41:53] the flowers that maybe people don't talk as much about on the eastern plains, the way the sun, you know, rises and sets, and the colors it casts on the plains. You can all see it, of course, at the History of Colorado exhibit. But, yeah. You ever been out to the Pawnee Buttes? No, I have not. It's a bit of a wild chase trying to find them, and then they just pop up. Yeah, I always... On a series of dirt roads. I always have, like, the occasional, like, inspiration to go out to eastern plains for something, like the dinosaur tracks out by Lamar.
[00:42:23] Oh, yeah. Or one of them. Yep. But for some reason, I just... The drive, I'm just like, eh. I can't get motivated. It reminds me of Indiana too much, I think. Driving through cornfields. You gotta go see the tarantulas. Oh, yeah, the tarantulas. Also Lamar. You know, I'm always, like... I've always, like, found the plains... What's the way to put this? I always feel kind of... It's, like, kind of eerie. Yeah, I could see that. Kind of, like, has a ghost town vibe, I would imagine, in some places, too. Almost, like, how I think I'd feel, like,
[00:42:52] if I was just out in the middle of the ocean. Hmm. You know? Like, just wide openness, you know? Yeah, yeah. I don't know. Just forever stretching through. And I think about, like, man, like, when the pioneers were crossing. That's probably exactly what it was like. You know, crossing the ocean and not knowing where the heck you were gonna end up, right? Yeah. And then you just see Pike's Peak just towering. Yeah. But, yeah, it's still hundreds of miles away. Right. That thought always occurs to me. A hundred miles away. That must have been, like,
[00:43:23] coming out here just not knowing where the hell you could be going. Yeah, and what waited for you. Maybe you had some news from a year ago. Yeah. You know? But Fielder found it beautiful, anyway. Yeah. Yeah, what's the ghost town out there that was the historic... Was it Deerfield? Oh, yeah. Is that what it's called? Deerfield? Yeah. Coming up on Black History Month very much applies there. Yeah. That settlement. Yeah. From black individuals and families who built up Deerfield.
[00:43:51] That's a neat place to pull off and see. There's still structures existing of that. Yeah, and they're talking about making it more official as a stop, right? I think they had a plan at least. Putting it in the national park system. Yeah. Put it in the national park system. I forgot about that. Yeah. Very cool. Over by... Over toward Greeley-ish? I've been there. I've written about Deerfield. Oh, yeah. 30 miles east of Greeley. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
[00:44:15] Yeah, so formed under the desire of Oliver Toussaint Jackson. There you go. Yeah. That was his name. Yeah. But his desire to create a colony for African-American homesteaders. Yeah. Right. So... Mm-hmm. To own land and build wealth. Yeah. Yeah. Now it goes down. There are... Yeah, like you said, there are a lot of buildings that are still standing. So that'll be cool if they, you know, get a Colorado ghost town in the National Park Registry.
[00:44:43] I don't think there is that I can think of. Maybe... It'd probably have to be either St. Elmo or Animus Forks if either of those are designated as such, but... Well, then there's like a historic landmark, right? And on that same wavelength, along that same stretch of history, there was Lincoln Hills. Oh, yeah. In the mountains. That's a great slice of black history in Colorado as well. Tell us about this. The paradise... Gosh, I'm jogging my memory now. The paradise that was built there. Located in Gilpin County.
[00:45:14] Yeah. Gosh. You pulling stuff up on it? There again, I've written about it, but it's just been a while. Here's a quote from CBS News that kind of might capture this. It says, Lincoln Hills was built to be a bright light during a very dark time, a place for black people to escape from the misery of life back home in the 1920s.
[00:45:38] And there was big name artists, traveling musicians who stayed there, you know, who faced racism and segregation in Denver. You know, they play in Denver and they wouldn't be welcomed anywhere else. And so they'd go stay in Lincoln Hills. Dang. Yep. Well, yeah, and this says, same CBS article about this is talking about how present the Ku Klux Klan was in Denver politics at the time. Big time.
[00:46:06] So, yeah, Lincoln Hills was created as a recreational area for black people who were... I think people all too often forget. I mean, 1920s, I mean, the statehouse was reportedly majority KKK. Yeah. I mean, Senator KKK, mayor KKK, you know, racism. It was rampant. It was rampant. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:46:34] People, you know, Colorado was built as this union state, free state, but that definitely did not mean it was free. That's for sure. Dang. And these places definitely tell that story, you know? Yeah. This says, I mean, to put it in perspective, same CBS report, says it was the only African American resort owned and operated by black people west of the Mississippi. Yeah. So, at the time. So... And the lodge is still there. Winx Lodge. And there's definitely still descendants.
[00:47:03] You know, I remember meeting Judge... Who was that? Judge Gary Jackson. That's right. He definitely maintains the history there and continues the story of Lincoln Hills, runs deep in his family's history. Dang. His family cabin. Are you able to go visit this place still? I am not sure about that, man. There's been a non-profit that's done youth camps there over the years. I'm definitely recalling that.
[00:47:33] And it's Gilpin County, I want to say, right? Yeah, it is Gilpin. In the mountains around Gilpin County. Beautiful. Yeah, beautiful area. Lincoln Hills the Beautiful. That was one of the advertisements of the day back in the 1920s. Yeah, here's a 2022 report from Westward that says a black billionaire is buying up much of the property for a fly fishing club and potential for an invitation-only future. So, yeah. Interesting. Interesting. There's a lot of that. Yeah. That's a great history. Yeah.
[00:48:03] Never know what we might run into. We get food. We get outdoors. We get history. Yeah, I feel like not a lot of people know about the KKK involvement in Denver politics. There's pictures of... That should be talked about more. There's that 1922, that huge march down Larimer Street, white hoods en masse. You know, some of this history is just in very plain view that maybe some people don't like
[00:48:32] looking to, but I would say that's probably important. Yeah. Definitely something to not forget here. Moving on to another topic, another thing to do, which, Seth, I didn't give you a heads up about this one. That's all right. Rainbow Falls. So, I think you were right about this. Are you aware of this topic? The frozen getting to go see it? Yeah, yeah.
[00:48:58] So, a unique waterfall in the Colorado Springs area called Rainbow Falls, which is located right on the side of Highway 24 near Manitou Springs or in Manitou Springs, was previously referred to a lot as Graffiti Falls because a lot of people over decades were at least adding a lot of graffiti to this waterfall scene, and there's some cement in that area, so that's mostly what they're... There's like a little bridge and stuff.
[00:49:28] That's mostly what was being spray painted, and it was honestly like... You go down there, and it looked... It was very colorful. It was like an explosion of color. Mm-hmm. But the city or the town of Manitou, city of Manitou, has since tried to clean up that area and make it... Kind of give it a return to that more natural feel, and as far as I've heard, they've been very successful with removing that graffiti and kind of removing that stereotype of that spot.
[00:49:57] But one result of that vandalism that had taken place over the years was kind of, you know, the falls got kind of locked down in a sense, especially with COVID, you know, maybe that was a factor too, but they've been relatively hard to visit over recent years. Like, you got to go during a certain time. It's a very short walk from a small parking lot, but you got to go during a certain time, and then during the winter, it's generally closed, right? Mm-hmm.
[00:50:23] But that won't be the case here for two weekends, and do you have those dates pulled up, Seth? Witness the falls transformed into a glittering cascade of ice, a rare chance to marvel at a frozen masterpiece. So goes the billing from El Paso County. That's the land manager. You can read about this coming up. February 15th, February 22, those Saturdays. Again, you can find information on the county website about parking off US-24 there, and
[00:50:52] then you got to catch a ride down, shuttle ride down. I think parking is going to be 20 bucks a vehicle, it looks like. Yeah, and that's from the 101 Higginbotham Road. Higginbotham. What is that? Serpentine Drive, I think, that comes from Manitou up to the highway, pretty much, up to 24. Yeah, is that what it's off of? I think so. Can you park up there during this time, or do you have to go park it? I think this is where... During winter, it's gated. It's closed. Oh, so you can... Rainbow Falls. Yeah.
[00:51:22] So you have to take this shuttle. Yeah, that's what they're... Higginbotham Road. And this started, this arrangement, you know, the other little saga with Rainbow Falls was the county reporting rockfall that made them nervous about letting cars back there for, gosh, for a couple of years, right? It was closed even in the summer. Yeah. And so last summer, I think they finally debuted this arrangement where they're still uncomfortable lifting the gate for cars, but they're wanting people to park at this off-site place and then take the shuttle ride down.
[00:51:51] They're still calling it short-term, you know, this arrangement, a short-term. Yeah. But yeah, this is, as the county puts it, kind of a rare chance to see it in its frozen form. Yeah. That's awesome. And it is one of those waterfalls. It's just like picturesque waterfall. Like it's got that free-falling nature. It's big too. I don't know, probably 60 feet tall or whatever it is. Yeah, it's a beautiful waterfall.
[00:52:15] Interesting because when you're looking at this waterfall, you can kind of see both an amazing natural landscape in the box kind of canyon that it sets in. And then there's also this man-made marvel as well. Like the bridge. Yeah, the bridge. Yeah. That's a very historic element in engineering history, this bridge that supports the highway. Yeah. 24, of course. But it kind of spans right over it as well. And so I've always just got it.
[00:52:43] It was a kind of a quirky contrast. Nice juxtaposition. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, no, it's cool. And if I remember correctly too, which is not me encouraging or endorsing this by any means, but there used to be like some climbing holds on that bridge. Really? Like it was actually, I think it was actually featured on, I want to say mountainproject.com maybe, or it was one of the climbing sites where they actually had like the beta for the route essentially and like the rating and stuff. And yeah, it was just like a... Wow. Yeah.
[00:53:13] We'll talk about ideas that are maybe bad ideas. Speaking of that, I've always, I, you know, sometimes I can't help but wonder, especially like we were just talking about Uray Ice Park last podcast and knowing about Manitou in the winter and how quiet it is and how closed a lot of the shops are. Yeah. My mind has definitely thought of like ice climbing back in there. Oh, right. Rainbow Falls. Oh, Rainbow Falls. That was immediately, whenever I was like frozen waterfall, I was immediately
[00:53:42] like, I wonder if people sneak on there in ice climb. Not that you should. Yeah. Obviously. We're throwing out a lot of bad ideas. Yeah. Do not, do not. But you know what I'm saying? Like trespassing. Canyon walls. Again, I mean, you're talking about a lot of complexities, first of all, with terrain. Second of all, and definitely not least of all, water. Yeah. I don't pretend to know any of those, those complexities. Yeah. But you know what I mean? And I haven't been back there in a while to know what the terrain, i.e. the rock walls,
[00:54:11] look like back there. But my mind has definitely gone there, you know? Yeah. And I'm looking, yeah, right. Could that be an interesting venue, you know? It'd be cool if the city did some sort of like a sanctioned ice climbing. That's what I'm saying. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm saying for sure. There'd have to be an organized, formal arrangement to it. But I've always wondered about that back in there. Yeah. And I'm looking at some photos of it. It looks like part of the, it looks like some of the water flow is still running.
[00:54:39] And I don't know when these photos were taken and what point in the winter, but. It would for sure be very beginner. Yeah. It looks, it looks like some water flow is running still. Yeah. Though too. So, I don't know. Yeah. Could be. Yeah. Could be. Either way. I'm not endorsing anything either. I'm just saying. Look, look into, look into going and visiting. Yeah. Very unique chance. It's the only two weekends that it will be open for the winter this year. February 15th, February 22nd. And then I think it usually is like June to September is the season. Yeah. Otherwise. Yeah. Yeah. On the weekends, I believe.
[00:55:09] Yeah. I think it is limited to the weekends. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, it's a 20 minute stop, you know, like it's, if you're going into Manitou, add it to your list of things to do and budget, you know, 20, 30 minutes for it. So it's a very short walk on a paved, I believe paved or a gravel route to, to the falls. So, but yeah, I think that about covers it. Yeah. That covers it for today. We do have an exciting thing we can maybe chat about next week. Ooh, a little tease.
[00:55:39] Endangered places. Yes. We'll fill you all in next week. Yeah. New list. We should do teasers like this. We should do teasers. It's embargoed information. So we can't talk about it yet, but we can talk about it then. Yes. New endangered places in Colorado coming next week. But yeah, that's about it for us today. So until next time, I'm Spencer. I'm Seth. And we will see you out there. Find a new way to do the tagline every time.
[00:56:08] We will see you out there.