Tuned In ft. Tony V

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[00:01:18] if you're listening right now, if you've ever touched a dial on FM Radio in Denver. I know

[00:01:25] you know the voice that you're about to hear. It's an honor man. I got Tony V and Mr.

[00:01:30] Radio himself. All I lay was going down everybody. That's my alter ego chewy man. Yeah, you

[00:01:36] know true. How you doing bro? I'm doing good. Wraffy. Thank you for having me on show.

[00:01:40] I really appreciate that man. Mad love. How's your mental? How's my mental? Oh man.

[00:01:47] I'm exhausted and you know we you and I had a little bit of a conversation before the show

[00:01:51] started but I'm exhausted but I'm excited. I love coming into work every day. I love what I do

[00:01:59] as far as radio is concerned, but days can be long and not only that, I think it's because of

[00:02:05] what I do and what's on my plate. But and I don't mean to come off negative in the beginning.

[00:02:11] When you say you're tired, oh man. It's tired. No it is it's exhausting but I'm gonna

[00:02:17] gratifying place right now. Yeah, but I'm tired. Look at these bad. If you're watching, listen

[00:02:22] if you're listening, you can't. But if you're watching, you see these bags under my,

[00:02:25] these are this is luggage famed. You could fill these bad boys. Oh, I earn those bro.

[00:02:29] He earn those bags. That's why I said question because you know often we'd be like how

[00:02:34] you doing everybody's on it? Yeah, we're cool. Yes, how's your mental? You got to think about

[00:02:38] that. Well, you know, and that's the thing and what I've noticed on social media too, especially

[00:02:41] for men a lot of people don't understand because there's this stigma where we're supposed to

[00:02:46] be hardcore. We're supposed to take in everything and not show emotion right? We're just supposed

[00:02:53] to be whatever we are from a macho standpoint and you know from my Latino friends out there

[00:02:58] in machizimo, right? We don't let anything get to us but I'm glad you did ask that because

[00:03:04] you know, mental is a big issue especially for men because a lot of men do go through it

[00:03:07] and we don't show it. Yeah, it's real man. It's real. Alright, so there are a million in

[00:03:12] one people that obviously know who I'm talking to but those that do not know keep just doing

[00:03:16] brief introduction. Let them know who Tony V is. Um wow, geez, well, I've been in the business

[00:03:22] for about going a little over 30 years. It's gonna be 30 years this year when it hits

[00:03:28] October. If we're here that long, anyway, that's an inside joke that radio keeps know about

[00:03:33] right now. You'll know soon enough. Anyway, so on that note, it's been an amazing career.

[00:03:39] I started out at KDKO working for Dr. Dadio. Um, if you are aware of, you know, Colorado

[00:03:47] streets in Omaha city then you know of, I always knew him as brother Jeff X. He was a big

[00:03:52] mentor to me and he did over nights and he did the quiet storm and I had many talks with

[00:03:58] him and he just, he was a good mentor. He taught me radio. He taught me, uh, taught

[00:04:03] me what it was to be, you know, part of my manhood came from just having conversations with

[00:04:09] him because of who he was as a man. And getting my start with Dr. Dadio and working in the

[00:04:14] five points and, uh, you know, just being able to do community R and B radio. Like that

[00:04:19] was, that was big for me and to come from that and to get where I'm at right now. It's been

[00:04:23] a long, uh, fun career. But from KDKO I went to KS 104, which got bought out by 107 in

[00:04:30] two different companies, Western cities to, uh, company called Jefferson Public Communications

[00:04:34] and I ended up working there, uh, which got bought out by Lincoln financial media 25 years,

[00:04:39] 25 years for that company as far as KS 105 was concerned. And then I actually left,

[00:04:46] man, I, uh, my contract expired and I'm one of the few DJs who was able to just walk

[00:04:52] away and say that I wasn't going to resign and I was going to go in a different direction.

[00:04:57] I didn't think that I was going to come back to radio. Yeah. But I kind of took the Tom Brady route,

[00:05:01] it was a 90 day hiatus and then, uh, you know, got called back to get on the field and came back

[00:05:06] and it was, it was really cool. It was really cool to come work for a company like Max Media,

[00:05:11] Jammin, one one five and flow one oh seven one mornings on jammin afternoons at flow and to call this

[00:05:17] place home and to work with people like, um, my dude Daniel Chav, you know, um, calm on the ones

[00:05:22] and twos right now and Sean and Jeff and Slim and Kathy Jay coming back and all these people here.

[00:05:28] It, uh, it definitely brought me back to where I started. Yeah. Family type radio and that's what KDKO

[00:05:34] was. So everything is come full circle to be here today. Absolutely. Yeah. It's been cool, man. That's

[00:05:39] dope, man. Um, a lot of people that know my story know that Dr. Dario and KDK, KDKO and brother Jeff,

[00:05:44] they're my inspirations for even doing this right now. Oh, oh, we're on the same fridge, right?

[00:05:48] So it's the same trajectory. Let's go. You say that, man. So like, you know, obviously I've been

[00:05:51] following you and your journey and everything as well and just watching radio, bro. Like it is what

[00:05:56] you just said, I always fell in love with the community aspect of radio. Yeah. The localized aspect,

[00:06:03] especially right now where everything being sold everywhere we can consume content media all day

[00:06:08] but it's like what's happening in my city right in front of me around me and hearing that from

[00:06:14] familiar voices and just having that vibe. I think that's something that you've been able to carry

[00:06:18] out throughout these 30 plus if you hear that long years, man. I could be your dad. I'm just saying.

[00:06:26] No, no, I'm joking. I'm joking. I've been with my wife. We got to be your uncle. Yeah. But

[00:06:34] just talking about that, man, just kind of carrying that weight and going through those different

[00:06:38] transitions and you know, the radio industry moves so fast, pacing one day is this format? Yeah.

[00:06:43] And it's another like you said, this station gets bought by this station gets bought by. Yeah.

[00:06:46] Talk about that a little bit. So from a transition standpoint, I will say I was lucky to work at KS1075

[00:06:53] same format for 25 years. That was amazing in itself and you know, there's always highs and lows

[00:06:59] as far as the career is concerned and KDKO not necessarily a format change but definitely a transition

[00:07:09] from AM radio, community family radio to corporate radio, which is a little bit different when it comes

[00:07:14] to things that you have a pulse on in the community and things that you can connect with as opposed

[00:07:22] to corporate. We got to make money has its time to money when a core community radio you can go out

[00:07:28] and virtually just do the things that connect and help people in need who listen to you and the platform

[00:07:38] is amazing because and you can still do it in corporate radio. But there's always, hey how do we

[00:07:44] make money from this? How do we attach this to money? And I came from the Westwood projects I lived

[00:07:48] in the Southside and for me one of the things that I took out of radio was that this was a God

[00:07:55] giving platform. I'm not I'm not better than anybody. I'm not anyone who is more educated than

[00:08:01] anybody. I felt like God gave me a platform and what can you do besides entertaining that is

[00:08:08] positive that can give back? And so KS1075 was an awesome opportunity to take some of the things

[00:08:17] I got from KDKO and start a food drive, the toy drive that we did and give back really because

[00:08:23] knowing where I came from it was really all about giving back and I know that's kind of a side story

[00:08:28] but that is one of the positive things that we were able to transition and it really I got to a point

[00:08:35] where I was trusted. I had to earn the trust of corporate yeah and the suits of okay it doesn't

[00:08:43] matter how much money we make but because you're giving back and you're creating relationships

[00:08:48] you're creating lifetime listeners people that are going to tune in and the money's going to come

[00:08:53] down the road you're you're developing those community relationships where you can go out and

[00:08:59] you know they're just going to know you not just from a giving back standpoint but now we can

[00:09:04] also do business with you as well so those those go hand in hand but for me my most favorite part was

[00:09:10] the giving back part. And then getting here coming back to it was full circle for community because

[00:09:15] guys like Sean and Jeff let's give back what can we do to give back? Of course there's always

[00:09:18] that money that you got to keep your lights on right? Got to get paid, got to feed your kids

[00:09:22] but for them to allow me to even have my 20th annual Thanksgiving food drive that was huge I didn't

[00:09:26] know if I was going to make it to 20 but we did it and that's huge because I came from

[00:09:34] going to food pantries. I came from going to a Catholic church where I got a president I was like

[00:09:41] nine years old and I got a gift at 14 year old boy on it. They didn't know who I was somebody

[00:09:46] donated and it was a sweater that didn't fit me but those things resonated with me as a kid

[00:09:51] so that if I had the opportunity and it's crazy because in the beginning when you first start

[00:09:55] radio I'll just say this quickly oh party party party me baby everybody look at you kind of feel

[00:10:01] yourself and thank God for my wife because she's like oh no we're not doing this. We're not doing

[00:10:06] this we're going to reel you in you're not going to be that guy and you know a lot of times as

[00:10:11] a growing man you think oh I'm making my own decisions sometimes you get caught up everybody can

[00:10:15] get caught up you get caught up in the limelight you get caught up in making more money and you think

[00:10:19] that you can do it forever yeah doesn't work that way I promise you it does not work that way

[00:10:25] some people will find themselves working until they die if they don't do it right you know what I mean

[00:10:30] so long story short I'm thankful that I had a wife to help me reel it in and help me realize

[00:10:36] what can we do with this platform how can we not only build a brand but also help the community

[00:10:43] in the process and I had a few mentors that you know Bob call for Lincoln financial media

[00:10:50] and Jefferson pilot great mentor you know shot at the cat columns being able to work with Larry

[00:10:54] Kendall and Kathy yeah those guys were amazing they had a great morning show so to be able to

[00:10:58] piggybacken we had a great team you know from Jones to the morning show to me to our night slim slim

[00:11:06] was doing nights at the time yeah and we were in what was called a hey day of hip hop area but to be

[00:11:11] able to connect with people like that's important and if you have a company or you have somebody

[00:11:15] that allows you to do that that's where you can build the relationships and that's where you can

[00:11:19] break bread absolutely I couldn't agree with more man and I think it's you know I often say it's

[00:11:24] the purpose over the profit and that's kind of been my struggle with corporate media and just

[00:11:30] you know the radio industry and just the way things are structured because I'm such a purpose driven

[00:11:36] person and so when you find opportunities where you can combine both that's perfect because like

[00:11:40] you said you do have to keep the lights on yeah but it's is you get consumed by that beast in many

[00:11:46] ways oh it's suck it's suck because you could be giving of yourself and you could tirelessly give

[00:11:52] everything and end up with you know personally it feels like you get nothing and you are doing a

[00:11:58] good deed right people remember that but it's not putting money in your pocket yeah it's like well

[00:12:03] shoot I don't have any gas money because I gave my shirt off my back to somebody or I did this

[00:12:07] event and put everything into it yeah and I didn't get anything in return yeah and but one day

[00:12:12] you got you just gotta keep pushing the grind because it'll come back to you absolutely when I'm a

[00:12:16] kid when I was a kid I thought man I'm never gonna get out of here I am always gonna be here and a lot

[00:12:21] of it is you know this a lot of it's putting in the work yeah you can be thankful for everything

[00:12:26] and everybody around you who support you and and help you get uh to where you're going by you know

[00:12:32] little stepping stones and or throwing you a bone or whatever but you ultimately do the work

[00:12:37] you are the grinder that's a big fact yeah so I do want to talk more about radio but I want to rewind

[00:12:42] a little bit because you hit on a couple things man just talking about just your upbringing and

[00:12:46] your childhood and where you come from like you definitely have certain morals and principles

[00:12:50] that you stand on and I had to come from somewhere so if you could just talk about oh yeah

[00:12:54] shout out to my mom and dad our first and foremost you know god yeah we can't be here can't do this

[00:13:00] without god and a lot of people beg to differ on your beliefs or whatever and you know I don't care

[00:13:05] I know that I have a personal relationship I know that I can get in his own when it comes to god

[00:13:10] and I know that my prayers have been answered miracles have been performed for me so first and

[00:13:14] foremost mom and dad um I actually came here when I was three months old I came from Texas and my

[00:13:20] mom and dad brought me and I'm gonna I'm not gonna go into too much detail but they're really

[00:13:24] my aunt and uncle okay my mom died when I was three months old and my dad I'm the youngest out

[00:13:29] of six kids and my mom and dad have had another childhoods my sister and I they're my family they're

[00:13:36] my mom and dad my sisters my sister and I that opportunity and them coming here and you know

[00:13:43] laying the foundation and you know a lot of it's the way that you're raised you're fortunate to have

[00:13:47] two parents um and they've been together forever they're actually staying with me right now my dad's

[00:13:53] got the cancer situation going a lot a lot of people know about that yeah you know we're trying to

[00:13:57] help him get through and you know just be comfortable but without mom and dad without parental support

[00:14:04] um you know it's hard it's very difficult and salute to one parent people you know whether

[00:14:11] you're a mom raising kids or a dad raising kids on your own salute to you because it is difficult

[00:14:17] it is hard with two people doing it so when you have a missing parent and you miss that balance

[00:14:22] it is very difficult so shout out to you for making it work and that's another thing that's another

[00:14:25] reason we give back another reason that we volunteer and we coach the world needs father figures

[00:14:31] you know what I mean and that's big for us me and my son a lot of people that I work with if we can

[00:14:36] have a lot more father figures out in the community um we can help raise uh and bring up better men

[00:14:43] absolutely when it comes to that so you know big ups in my pops for for being that um number one

[00:14:49] the foundation of being a rock so yeah man absolutely the world needs more father figures that's for sure

[00:14:54] bro that's a fact man cool man so breathing along we fast for it right so we got platforms like

[00:15:00] we're on right now the connect we're podcasting we're on YouTube there's social media everything is

[00:15:06] just moving man there's spotify this game is changing drastically and fast then we got terrestrial FM

[00:15:13] radio you know you read these things every day oh yo radio is dying blah blah boom boom you hear

[00:15:22] all these different things but as someone that's been in this industry and seeing every you know

[00:15:28] peak and turn where are we right now in your opinion in the world of terrestrial radio and where do

[00:15:34] you think it's going it is crazy because you said terrestrial radio like you know if you're making

[00:15:40] that reference then we're already looked at as dinosaurs right we're already look at as oh it's

[00:15:45] about to go extinct there's there's this pre notion that it's going to be gone I mean you said in

[00:15:51] the beginning of the of the introducing this next topic and so here's my take on it I think

[00:15:59] it all comes down to the person right if you grew up in a time and you go back to your life

[00:16:08] on memories of when you were a teenager and a young adult there are a ton of memories that have

[00:16:17] music and entertainment that are connected to that yes and if you hear a song especially on one

[00:16:24] of our stations it always takes you back to a moment and there are a ton of people there are

[00:16:32] millions of people who are my age a little bit older and and a little bit younger who are still

[00:16:38] attached to a time when old school hip hop and throwback hip hop and even old school R&B

[00:16:45] still makes a difference so I believe that it's not a matter of what people think about the

[00:16:52] business I think it's the individual we get stuck in habits we get stuck in in our when in certain

[00:16:58] ways the way that we do things right and some people get stuck in errors and genres if you will

[00:17:05] so the people listening to us right now at Jammin and Flow they have habits of turning on the radio

[00:17:14] yeah so as long as they're around and as long as we continue to play what we play radio can be

[00:17:19] around for 20 30 40 years now these young kids the newer kids my my kids my grandkids your future

[00:17:28] kids couple generations down the road things have changed talk about the Spotify's the YouTube's

[00:17:34] of the world the TikToks that audience is obviously searching for something else yeah for sure when

[00:17:40] it comes to radio it is not so much in the interest radio falls in one of those places where it's

[00:17:47] just another outlet and if it happened to turn it on or tune in now for me as as a as someone

[00:17:54] who loves music and loves radio if I hear something on TikTok right here's something on Spotify

[00:17:59] or see something on TV and I or underground music right grab a lot of people who continue to make

[00:18:05] music that is considered underground because it hasn't gone commercial yet when it hits the radio

[00:18:10] oh I don't know what oh they're playing that yeah I get more excited hearing on radio station

[00:18:15] than I would on Spotify that's real because I feel like someone has taken the time to recognize

[00:18:19] that and throw that on the radio so to answer your question I know it was kind of long and I felt

[00:18:24] like I had a paint this picture there are people out there who listen to radio by habit so as

[00:18:30] long as they continue to do that and we have a platform and a genre of music that affects them

[00:18:36] and entertains them then they'll still be there for sure when that goes I'm basically saying like

[00:18:42] when the older generation start to die off it'll start changing and who knows what's going to

[00:18:49] happen as far as music is concerned talk radio I don't know I think that is still huge I feel like

[00:18:56] we're still in a place where we can be around for a while but as far as the younger music right now

[00:19:02] the younger the newer hip hop and the newer pop radio that you're listening to the younger generation

[00:19:07] is looking for other places as far as those outlets are concerned I agree with that man you

[00:19:11] said something important so the nostalgia piece of it right I spoke on this before it's

[00:19:16] you know I'm a millennial right so my son my oldest son is 16 so I hear what he hears

[00:19:23] the CVDCs whatever I personally have no interest in being like the tick-tock guy you know

[00:19:30] I have like you said I have emotional ties to radio and certain music right it's just

[00:19:35] that trigger something in me is the nostalgia piece so I still enjoy radio because I think back

[00:19:41] in the music that you're playing all that you're connected yes so I think in general society kind of

[00:19:46] has this thing where we feel like we have to appeal to what's next all the time of course and I don't

[00:19:52] think that's good because it becomes a toxic mentality because you start to ignore the people that

[00:19:57] are still here so speaking as a millennial there's a whole pocket of us that whether it's radio

[00:20:04] whether it's new media whatever it's kind of breezed over yeah because you either go like the

[00:20:08] super classic nostalgic era or what's new and it's like yo like we listen to 50 cent young GZ

[00:20:14] you know that's classic to us right because that's what I was listening to in high school yep

[00:20:18] and that's radio that's these different platforms right so I agree man I don't think it goes

[00:20:23] anywhere from that standpoint but it also has to do with the music being played of course of course

[00:20:29] I don't think like classic hip hop R&B ever really goes anywhere you know what I mean because

[00:20:35] of like you said as I'm aging into this platform still right but I do see the way media is being

[00:20:41] consumed and that's why I refer to it as terrestrial because radio in other formats still exist I'll

[00:20:46] listen to radio via Apple music I listen to radio via YouTube too so I don't think radio dies I just

[00:20:53] think the way it's consumed might drastically start to but is it the same it's not the same

[00:21:00] it's not the same no it's not the same but I think we live in a society now especially pre-COVID

[00:21:05] where you know you might not like if I tell my son get in the car right now and turn to you know

[00:21:10] one or seven one he's going how how do I do that you know what I mean like what do you mean

[00:21:14] you got the ox or what exactly what is that what are you talking about so I think that's kind of

[00:21:20] what we are forming into those that know no right but when you got Alexa home systems and all

[00:21:25] that and it's just like you'll play one or seven one you're just sitting at the crib I think that's

[00:21:30] kind of where we are today you know what I mean well you know when it comes to music like I raised

[00:21:34] my key I felt like I raised my kids to like the old school and Mike the stuff that I like because

[00:21:38] they they still listen to it they know that there were pioneers and a lot of music today still

[00:21:45] has that evolution that same sound or and you hear in remixes or pre-makes of songs where

[00:21:50] and and you could educate people like oh that came from there you know P. Diddy cut this but it

[00:21:55] really came back from the O.J.'s what that came back from the 70s what what are you talking about

[00:22:00] then you have that conversation which is great but then you also have you know I can say

[00:22:04] I'm raising my kids right in the sense of music but my grandkids oh pop that's trash

[00:22:08] yeah wait a minute wait a minute that's trash yeah a little checker little checkers have got what

[00:22:12] we're talking about and tech is cool I and this to me as a hip hop head I have evolved you have to

[00:22:19] you sit down with the kids and your kids and you talk about music you see what they like and that

[00:22:24] keeps you in the know of what's going on you're doing a great job the same way right you said it

[00:22:29] earlier one thing I will say is when it comes to media and how we consume it now social media

[00:22:34] and media kind of mess us up yeah because there's so much hitting us at the same time right we're getting

[00:22:39] hit left and right our attention span has gone away and for the younger kids if TikTok is not

[00:22:46] planning it's not a hit it has nothing to do with someone's personal feelings anymore I feel like

[00:22:51] we're lost it's popular you if you flip the dial on a couple stations right next to us yeah they

[00:22:57] they're playing what TikTok is dictating yeah right and I'll say what I conversation one time

[00:23:03] with this kid and he walked up to me goes you know my dad full right and his dad didn't know me right

[00:23:08] his little kid and you know I hooked him up some passes to going to Holland House and he goes you

[00:23:12] want to talk and I'm like yeah I'm gonna take I just jumped on right I'm pretty excited and

[00:23:16] and by the way I'm not a TikTok or either I got like 200 followers right and at the time I have

[00:23:21] like 50 followers right so he looks at my TikTok because I think he's gonna follow Ryan he goes

[00:23:25] dang you ain't even famous fool oh my I was embarrassed but it was the funniest thing at the same time

[00:23:31] my son was there and a couple other people they all busted out laughing I was like uh my Facebook

[00:23:36] I got 180 thousand Facebook like they don't what he's talking about and that you know like my

[00:23:41] social media platform is becoming dinosaur right yeah Instagram uh are you on Instagram or

[00:23:46] no Snapchat fool Snapchat and TikTok fool yeah and like you know it was crazy because this kid

[00:23:50] was telling me I go so you do you approach women or people that you're interested in hanging out

[00:23:56] with and go talk to them and have conversations he goes nah I just asked for their Snapchat fool

[00:24:02] yeah I was like what like that's how people communicate now right communication has changed you go to

[00:24:07] restaurants it's not just the music it's not just how we consume people do this the whole time for sure

[00:24:13] you can see a couple and you're like are they texting each other are they looking at something else

[00:24:19] where's the communication I promise you I challenge you do it watch how many people are looking down

[00:24:24] at their phones when they're together we are getting lost in the world of communication and it's

[00:24:30] affecting everything it is man I think that's where radio and essence no matter how you consume it

[00:24:35] I think that's where radio kind of is that band-aid because it's the soul you know what I mean like

[00:24:41] if I had to just put it in one word that soul is missing right now and also on top of that just

[00:24:47] programmatic music and just anything right now it's kind of needed that's all go to a playlist or

[00:24:53] all listen to radio for that reason because there is so much all the time I'm like damn I get overwhelmed

[00:24:58] bro I don't know what to listen to today or where to listen to it at yeah let me just turn on the

[00:25:02] radio real quick and you know hear Tony V talk because you're actual human and then here's some music

[00:25:08] right you know what I mean like this oh this is what he likes or something like that that programming of

[00:25:14] you know this is a human giving you soul in real time it's a type of interaction is you can't

[00:25:21] you can't mimic that man AI is coming too so now if you hear it on Spotify you're gonna hear maybe

[00:25:27] this sexy woman or this cool sounding dude and they're not even real it's literally how are you

[00:25:33] it's not even sound it sounds real yeah like it sounds real now and I'm like oh well this is a

[00:25:38] perfect time to get out because the robots are coming they're taking our ish you know what I'm saying

[00:25:43] they're here man and you know what's funny is you said something that you talk about like having

[00:25:46] that that connection and earlier in the before we even got on the program you said is there anything

[00:25:51] that you want to plug I just realized I do want to plug something I want to plug my tick talk follow me

[00:25:56] I'm not famous fool all right there you go there you go but I will say this and this is something for

[00:26:02] the locals and it's gonna come here in the next couple weeks any local legends who have had

[00:26:09] who've done music and have never been recognized back in the day when I was at the other radio station

[00:26:14] the KS1075s of the world um please get at me the apostles of the world the doos mobs of the world

[00:26:22] resting piece famed but Adub if you're out there we're gonna do something special we already

[00:26:26] started doing it with dank one I put signs card of Melissa Luhon um we're gonna we're gonna start

[00:26:31] doing something on flow for the local Denver legends got it and show them some love

[00:26:37] and I think that's needed to recognize because they did put in a lot of work and I think a lot

[00:26:42] of people were trying to make Denver kind of an LA hub or a Texas hub or a New York hub when it

[00:26:48] came to music and corporate didn't want them to do that corporate didn't care about that because

[00:26:54] corporate we only play hits and we're here to make money we're gonna do something special

[00:26:59] and there they're a lot of interstate Ike you know um there's some OGs out there who has some

[00:27:05] really good music that was I thought at the time was radio worthy but we couldn't do anything

[00:27:10] about it and now we can do a little something about it perfect man that's perfect we'll go

[00:27:14] ahead and wrap up the last thing if you can uh I just say if you can go back and talk to your

[00:27:19] younger self but I'm gonna put it like this because you are OG in the game you're still in the game

[00:27:24] you know what I mean yeah right now there's somebody out there that is listening that might be

[00:27:27] younger and they're like you know I still want to be in broadcasting I still want to do radio

[00:27:31] like forget what y'all are saying this is still my passion we'll be some advice for them

[00:27:35] I say go for it um I think this this business and what we're doing right now whether it's podcasting

[00:27:41] whether it's radio uh any uh entertainment form that you desire do it it there's a lot of things

[00:27:48] that it does for you personally yeah it builds confidence it makes you more self aware you pay

[00:27:54] attention to what's going on uh your opinions and who you are are valuable and if you can create a

[00:27:59] platform to do that that's amazing but also be responsible with that platform and I always say this

[00:28:06] if you ever ever get to a spot where you are able to affect and be positive with people

[00:28:14] use that platform in a positive way and give back find a way to give back find a way to help

[00:28:19] people out find a way to look out for a community and I promise it goes a long way people will never

[00:28:25] forget you and you're doing God's work yeah that's real plug your TikTok one more time man

[00:28:31] I don't even know I remember I think it's at Tony Vizzle that follow me on TikTok okay I'm good on

[00:28:37] Instagram I'm good on Facebook I'm okay I'll snapchat I don't really care about snapchat but

[00:28:42] just follow me on TikTok right yeah I want to be able to go alive because I heard it like you can

[00:28:47] you can make money yeah yeah you can make money yeah we're gonna get some he TikTok but I need like

[00:28:52] I think I need a thousand or ten thousand followers I think I'm like a two ninety seven but I'm

[00:28:56] like you bro I'm like I jump on I'll check some stuff yeah you know I just it is I mean I got

[00:29:01] I got I've had one and I don't know really the actual layout of TikTok is overwhelming for me

[00:29:07] but that's a whole different conversation but I just started just putting my stuff on there I'm

[00:29:10] like I'm everywhere anyway but I can't be like the TikTok right but you know clips of this will

[00:29:16] be on TikTok TikTok and all that we'll tag you we'll get we'll get your TikTok game up bro let's do

[00:29:20] it man let's get each other's TikTok game up bro well man Tony V appreciate you brother thank you

[00:29:25] I appreciate you as well I'm graffiti out