We're Back For The Big Game

[00:00:00] At long last, The Blucifer Brothers have returned, just in time for the Super Bowl. Dan, play that funky music. Welcome in, welcome in, after an extended hiatus. There, we had, Dan had some complications from, he had

[00:00:29] excessively large gonads that he had to get reduced, and so producer Dan has been laid up. So his testes are now only slightly larger than the average man, as opposed to carrying around two bowling balls that he was before. So it's good to be back. I believe they're still cantaloupe-sized. Oh, yeah. Mostly they just took the density out of them. The size, nothing they could do about that.

[00:00:59] They just injected Ozempic right into his testicles. And just like that, we're off, folks. I am Kyle Pullen, joined as always by my brother Ryan Pullen. And we are, of course, produced by Dan the Man, our super producer here. We got a good show for you. We will be talking about more than Dan's genitalia. We'll be talking about...

[00:01:26] I can't guarantee that I will do that. How can we tie Luka Doncic and Anthony Davis to Dan's genitalia? We're going to be talking NBA trade deadline. That doesn't sound like it'd be very funny. Anthony Nuggets, five-game win streak. That's a lot of weight. Yeah. And then we're going to get into the Super Bowl bets. Last year, we made 100 Super Bowl bets.

[00:01:56] And it was too many. It was too many. It became cumbersome near the end. So we're going to just kind of talk through the game, see how we think it's going to go, and then try to create the perfect parlay. So we're going to have the perfect Blues for Brothers parlay. But first, we've got to go over this NBA trade deadline. First things first, Ryan, the Nuggets did nothing at the

[00:02:20] trade deadline. I think I'm kind of okay with it based off of the deals and what was out there. Valanchunas, it could have been something, I guess, to get him. But it feels weird when your number one hole is backup center, because a backup center in the

[00:02:47] playoff series is just always going to get taken advantage of, and you just don't really want them out there. So we're just going to stagger Aaron Gordon a lot more in the playoffs and not do it. Yeah. I would have much rather seen them take a swing at a wing as opposed to a backup center. It just feels like the price is a little too high, right? Yeah. And we honestly don't really have the capital to make that sort of deal. No.

[00:03:15] So when I see that DeAndre Hunter deal, I'm like, man. That was the one that I looked at, and I was like, we don't have those two pieces. I would have done that in a heartbeat if I was in Nuggets, but we don't have anything that's comparable. Nope. Nope. You have to give up Christian, or you have to give up Strother, or you have to give up pieces that aren't like, oh, this is 31-year-old George Niang. We were trying to trade Zeke Najee and Jalen Pickett. Yeah.

[00:03:43] It was not, I don't even know that for sure, but it was not a king's ransom that we were willing to give up here. Like, you're happy with the core, and the core stays the same, and you see what you can do. And I agree. Like, I mean, judging from the last couple of games, what, we're on a five-game winning streak as we talked tonight? And it seems like the team is kind of what it is right now, and if this doesn't work,

[00:04:12] then I think this summer could get busy. Yeah. But... I think that's pretty reasonable. I think, obviously, like you said, the summer, like, you can't do anything at this trade deadline with Aaron Gordon, with Jamal Murray. Not that Aaron Gordon was in any talks or anything, but, you know, it was basically, you could do Porter and try to get someone huge.

[00:04:38] But as soon as it became clear that Fox wasn't coming, then that's kind of the only player that you think about that for. Like, you're not doing Porter for, like, Jimmy Butler to be unhappy. You're not doing it for... I mean, they would have offered us Luka Doncic, I suppose. But... Yeah. It would have been a better deal. We could have given them a better deal for... Yeah. We could... We would have thrown in Zeke in a couple seconds.

[00:05:08] Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, we would have sweetened that pot for you nice. Yeah. No problemo. But... No, I think it's... It shows that there's both confidence in the roster, which is warranted because it's... They've been pretty good. We're third in the West now. Like, I think we're going to end up being the number two seed in the West. And I think... The Grizzlies look pretty good.

[00:05:33] I think that we are probably still the second best team in the West behind the Thunder pretty solidly at this point. But in a playoff series, I don't know what I would do there. Like, I... Yeah. So, I think you look around the landscape and you're... They're... The difference between the Thunder and the sixth team in the West is probably not as big

[00:06:02] as it's been in years past in terms of the best team in the West and the sixth best team in the West. Right. But the... So, that kind of just allows for you to stand pat and see where the chips lay. Like, there isn't going to be a series again, and I say this every year as we approach the playoffs, like, we have the best player on the floor. By a lot, by the way. Yeah. Like, I've been...

[00:06:31] I've started watching... You know, my NBA has really picked up, like, not just Nuggets. I think this is the most... Like, I don't think I've missed a Nuggets game in terms of, like, even if I've missed, like, the first half, I'll go back and re-watch it. But I've started watching another NBA, and you're just like, oh, wow. Like, you think about, like, Paolo and Franz and guys like that that you're like, oh, my gosh.

[00:06:57] And then you realize, like, oh, Franz just kind of didn't show up that much in that Orlando game. Yeah. Like, you look his eye on the first night, and you're like, man, that guy didn't do anything. And then the second night, he shows up. And so, you just kind of forget, like, oh, yeah, our guy just is going to get 30. Like, his worst game of the season was that Knicks game. And he still had 20-some, like, 10 and 7.

[00:07:23] You know, like, he played terrible by Nikola Jokic standards. And it was still a line that other teams would kill for their superstar to average for the whole year. Like, if you just told them they were going to score, they were going to give them that production every game, they'd be like, oh, my God, thank you. The last thing I'll say about Jokic in particular, because he's just been otherworldly. Like, again, I'm going to say that his MVP odds are off again.

[00:07:50] Shea is sort of, like, taking it over, and they're sort of ignoring this run by the Nuggets so far. So, if you haven't yet, maybe time to dip your toe in that market. And then the other thing I'll say is that he raises the ceiling of everybody around him in a way that is not quantifiable. Like, Russell Westbrook looks incredible. Yeah. And that is Jokic.

[00:08:17] And when you're talking about a buyout, potentially, of Bruce Brown, now we're getting tasty. Yeah. Bruce Brown buyout is unbelievable. I mean, I think it's going to happen. And it's just whether he chooses to come to the Nuggets. So, it's... I don't know. I thought that I would be more upset that we didn't do anything.

[00:08:45] I sort of expected us not to do anything. And I thought it was going to make me angry because I don't want to waste any special Jokic years. But I don't think that this is wasting one. Um, because I think they have a legitimate chance to do something pretty, uh, competitive in the playoffs, at least. Yeah. And it feels like maybe the Celtics are a little bit...

[00:09:11] Like, they're running into some of the stuff the Nuggets had, where it's like, hey, I'm feeling a little extra tired now. Like, it's not... This is hard. Yeah. Like, um... And they had the Olympics, too. It wasn't just the title. Like, Tatum and Brown were... Well, Tatum didn't play much. Uh, but... No, I guess Brown wasn't there. Yeah. Um, and Derek White. But Derek White. Yeah, played a lot. He's tired, too. He looks like shit.

[00:09:39] Although he did light somebody up the other night. Yeah. But... That Philly comeback. No, they've been... But, like, you know, it's not... It's not... I don't think they're going to take a walk. I think the Cavs have a much better opportunity to beat them than any team in the East had last year. Yeah. And the Cavs clearly believe that. That's why you trade for Hunter, to your point. And the Knicks. You need a big wing.

[00:10:09] The Knicks look unbelievable, too. Yeah. The Knicks are weird in terms of some games I watch them. And I'm like, oh my god. And then I'll, like, be scrolling and I'll be like, wait, they're down 10 to the Raptors? Like, they're just weird in terms of, like, it feels very streaky with their offense. That I worry about that a little bit in the playoffs. But to your point, they're still better than they were last year. Yeah.

[00:10:38] By far. And Cat's been... Yeah. Great. So, I assume... We haven't officially talked about it. We've texted. But I assume we're on the same page. This Mavs GM, Nico Harrison, is a full-blown moron. Right? There's... I've taken it all the way the other way. I think it's a great trade. I hope you're kidding. Yeah, yeah.

[00:11:08] Oh, my god. No, I think it's going to go down as one of the dumbest trades of all time. It's... There's just no possible way that you can talk me into... Like, AD is old. He's injured. He doesn't seem to love to play basketball. And yes, now he can play the four, hypothetically. But he is not... He's not a generational player.

[00:11:35] AD is a really, really, really, really, really good basketball player. But he's not generational. Luka is a generational talent who is not yet in his prime. Most people win championships when they're 28, 29, 30. Like, that's when they win. That's when you get it all put together. This guy is, what, 27? 27? I don't know how old he is. Luka? Yeah. I think he might be younger than that.

[00:12:04] I think Luka might be 25 years old. But... He's 25. Oh, my god. So, he's... You're trading away a 25-year-old superstar who took you to the fucking finals last year. Who just bought a $15 million house. Like, clearly loved it there. Like, no drama, no talk of him leaving. It really... Like, I don't...

[00:12:28] I hate to make the analogy, but it would be like if the Nuggets traded Jokic. Yeah. Because he was a little bit fat sometimes. Yeah. And we were just like... What? It'd be like if he traded them Jokic for Kyrie Irving. And we were like, you know... This is a win-now move. Speed. Speed wins championships. Yeah. Like, what are you talking about? It's just insane. The other thing that I...

[00:12:56] The fact that he wanted it to be a secret, I think, is the most damning thing in this whole... Like, I understand why, in the hypothetical sense that you want to keep Luka potentially, I understand why you wouldn't want to piss him off and be like, yeah, we're trying to trade you and let that get out. But also... Like, there are a lot of teams picking up...

[00:13:24] The Thunder have a million first-round picks. Literally a metric shit-ton of first-round picks. You got one pick. Like, Rudy Gobert went for four first-round picks and you got one. You got one. Yeah. Like, it is malpractice. And I realize it's sort of like when your buddy makes just an unbelievably stupid fantasy trade.

[00:13:52] But the commissioner's like, he's allowed to be dumb. Like, it's not collusion. He's just allowed to be stupid. The fact that the Lakers locked into this shit is... I mean, I want to root for Luka. I hope he doesn't re-sign with them. That's the most unbelievable turn to this is that he's just like, nah, I'm going to go to Denver actually. They're trading Jamal this summer. They got knocked down in the first round. So, yeah, I'm out of here.

[00:14:20] Like, can you imagine if that happens? Or if he goes anywhere but LA this summer? I just... It doesn't make any sense. No. It's pretty insane. The only thing that's been positive as a Nuggets fan that's come out of this... One, I think Dallas had a chance to be insanely good for a very long time. And was built to kind of give the Nuggets matchup problems.

[00:14:49] Which is the thing that people also aren't talking about. Is that they have P.J. Washington. Who was, by the way, playing awesome in Luka's absence. Like, he was having some 30-point games. He was really looking good offensively. You have P.J. Washington. You have Gafford. You also have Lively. Like, so you're like, oh, what does AD do? Oh, my God. God, he's so mobile. He's so good at protecting the rim. He's so, you know, such an athletic guy.

[00:15:18] You just have three younger, healthier versions of that. Now, does AD give you a different element offensively? Obviously. But, like, you know why you didn't need that? Because you had fucking Luka Doncic. So, you didn't need that. And that guy, you can't front him in the post. You can't take... Like, you just are like, yep, he's going to get the ball. And he, in every playoff series, it's not like he had one good run.

[00:15:47] He, with not nearly as good of a team, absolutely almost dog-walked the Clippers by himself. Like, he was unreal against Kawhi and Paul George when they were still good. Anthony Edwards and his reaction when he got traded, when he's like, he beat me. Like, and you know how Anthony Edwards feels about himself. So, that's like the biggest compliment he could give anybody. And he's like, man, that's tough.

[00:16:15] Like, it's nobody. And I don't... And it's wild how much consensus there is about how stupid this is. I haven't seen anybody zag on this in a real way and be like, oh, you know, I think AD might... You know, he's turning a corner health-wise. The only thing... And, oh, AD and Kyrie together. You are going to... What the fuck are you talking about? Is this 2009? Like, what are you talking about? They're both old.

[00:16:45] What is going on? The part that I didn't even think about was last night on TNT, they were doing the pregame thing. And one, those guys, they were like, oh, I mean, you know, the Mavs, this is for the next two years deal. And I'm like, yeah, but you're never going to win. Like, Chuck came and was like, they're not better than the Thunder. He's like, I don't think I'd take them against Thunder. And then the other...

[00:17:14] So then they go out to the reporter and she's like, yep, when Dallas comes home, just hoping that everyone treats everyone with respect when they come home. I'm like, oh, I didn't even think about that. They're going to boo the shit out of Anthony Davis, a famously fragile mental player. The moment he has a game in which Jokic or some big just messes him up. They are going to absolutely murder him.

[00:17:43] And he's not ready for that. Like, it is going to be bad. And so... No, it... And then you're going to get into the Kyrie Irving show when they don't do well. I saw some ESPN headline that they were hiring extra security for the home opener. It's unbelievable. We got to get to the... It's going to be... It's tomorrow. Against the Rockets. Oh, my God. Unbelievable, dude.

[00:18:11] Dallas is four and a half points. What is going on? The Rockets must be missing some people. Also, Dallas did weirdly on that game just mess up Boston. In Boston, it's kind of... Clay just went off and they just kind of gave him the business. But the funniest thing and the only thing that brought me joy from this was... Because we were all trying to figure out what would happen.

[00:18:38] And then I started finding stories about the Mavs GM. That, like, he was the Nike executive that accidentally presented the same PowerPoint that was Kevin Durant's to Steph Curry. And, like, called him Seth the whole time. And then his first year as a GM, he let Jalen Brunson go. So, and now he's lost Doncic. This guy is failing upwards on a level that's honestly inspiring.

[00:19:06] Like, he is so dumb. And he just keeps getting jobs. The fact that these owners let this happen, though, is like... You have to ask a follow-up question. Like, if you're enamored with Anthony Davis, I wonder if the owners knew that he made one phone call. Like, or did he present this as, like, we've got this great trade offer. You're not going to fucking believe it.

[00:19:33] We can get Anthony Davis, two other shitty Lakers, and one first-round pick for Luka. Yeah. I mean, it does feel like there was some... I don't know. I guess it's your job. Like, go ahead. Instead of being like, what, have you made another call? Yeah. No, it does feel like there was a weird culture shift. Because they were talking about how they were, like, firing the Luka, like, the strength and conditioning long-time coaches to, like, try to inspire him. And Luka was just like, they fire all the guys I like.

[00:20:04] And I'm like, I don't think that's how that works. Like, hey, Ryan, you know how you like all these people? We're going to try to get you to work harder for this company by firing all your friends. That video that they... What? That has been going around of the guy putting... Or taking the beer out of Luka's hands when they made the finals. Like... Yeah. It might have been over then, honestly. Like, I'm shocked.

[00:20:32] Looking back on it now, knowing what we know, Luka should have beat the shit out of that man. Oh. Like, there should have been hands thrown. 100%. Yeah. Yeah. But Nuggets, I think... It's a business, I guess. It's a good... Yeah. I think Nuggets... I think good. Porter... Quickly, this little Porter run. I want to get to this. Do you think this is...

[00:21:00] We've seen Porter have stretches before where he's very hot. I don't think I can remember a stretch in Nuggets... In this Nuggets team's memory. Where Jokic was consciously looking for him. Like, when Jokic comes down on the fast break, he's like... Is Christian open for dunk? No? Okay. Run, dribble handoff with Porter. Like, that's...

[00:21:28] Like, he is trying to get him points. And in that way, it's getting him going. And then Porter... He's getting some guys' points. Christian talked about it in his postgame. Where, like... They're playing so hard over him. There was one time when... It was against the Pelicans. But he came off a screen. And three guys looked at him. And we just threw it for a dunk. Like, it was like some Jokic stuff. Where, like... Just by being you on the floor...

[00:21:58] Sometimes you just get people open shots. Because the defense is just like... No, not him! And so... It does feel like... Maybe with, like... Gordon needing rest the one game. Murray needing rest. Russ is out. Payton... Like, it just feels like maybe there's been some, like... Chemistry. Where we've talked about on the show... Like, people forget now. Like... Jokic used to not like going to Jamal Murray's side. On the dribble handoff. He would always go to Gary Harris.

[00:22:27] Because he knew him. Like... Jokic likes the familiarity. And likes to know that you're going to make the right play if he gives you the ball. And it feels like right now, he... More than ever, there's like... The other times Porter went off, it just felt like... Well, he got open shots in transition. Or like, you know, people did stupid double teams on Jokic right there. Like, but now it feels like we are actively trying to create offense with him.

[00:22:55] And in a much better way than it was in the beginning of the season where it was really awkward. And it was like one-on-one stuff. And we talked about that. It feels like we're like, no, no, no. The threat of you and the three, we're going to run you off picks. And if guys are playing high side, then you can dive to the rim. And you're 6'10". Like, we think you can probably finish some of those. And it feels like Porter is really feeling unlocked. And that, to me, has been the most encouraging sign, if that's true.

[00:23:23] Because now at this point, the Murray-Jokic thing is always going to be there. But if there's some things where we can take some reps and take some things off of Murray's plate and run some offense, you know, get Porter some easy things, get some easy things there, I think that makes us pretty dangerous as an offensive unit. Which has been clear. I mean, we've been scoring a lot of points. Yeah.

[00:23:52] It feels sustainable in a way that it hasn't ever felt. Which I think is to your point in that it's deliberate. Like, it doesn't feel forced. It doesn't feel like he's just got hot for a quarter. Like, pretty often. And to be honest, I was pretty tempted to bet on this. And I'm glad I didn't in any of these games. But he would sometimes go off in the first half and then disappear. Yeah.

[00:24:20] And he literally wouldn't score in the second half. It was one of our least favorite bets, but most profitable bets to make from Ball Arena. It's tough. And that has not been the case. Like, he's almost caught more fire in the second half. Which, I mean, honestly, like, I was explaining it to somebody last night. My buddy who went to the game, and he doesn't, he's not a big NBA guy.

[00:24:47] And I was like, what people forget sometimes is that this guy was, like, the number one recruit. Like, everybody was, like, it was on, across the board, everybody said, this is the guy. And he's playing with a brace on his leg that nobody has ever played competitive basketball or NBA basketball with. Like, he's a fucking medical miracle. And the fact that he is doing this at all is impressive.

[00:25:18] Made even more impressive by the fact that now it seems, I mean, we're not out of the woods. And we don't need him to score 30 points every night. What we do need is that when these opportunities present themselves and when it's, there will be playoff games where we need him to be able to run this action and hit a three. And for him to have the confidence to do that is, building these reps seems very valuable.

[00:25:49] Yeah. And it's, to your point, it's, the types of plays that we're running for him feel replicable in terms of, it just puts a lot of pressure on you as a defense. Like, we can run this in the first eight seconds here and then say,

[00:26:09] oh, like, we, we now have 16 seconds and you just had to work so hard and you're probably closing out on a disadvantage for a Murray or Jokic with the ball attacking you in a close to four on three situation. Like, that's enough, dude. Like, it just takes out a lot of the energy that you have from Jamal Murray having to have some guy

[00:26:38] all over him, whatever, get the pick, work really hard. You know, like, it just makes the game really effortless for those guys. And I don't think that's a coincidence that we've seen that kind of going off. When it comes to the playoffs, what do you think our starting five is? And then we can move into the Super Bowl. Do you think, what do you think it looks like? DeAndre Jordan.

[00:27:08] Correct. One for one. Nicole Jokic, Jamal Murray, Mike Porter Jr., Aaron Gordon, Christian Brown. That's my prediction as well. I think, Russ, it's not his fault that he got hurt. And I don't even think that Christian will get it back right away. Like, I could absolutely see Malone saying, like, you don't lose your spot due to injury. Like, you were playing an unbelievable way. Like, we're going to give you a shot. And I think that's fine.

[00:27:35] But I just think, overall, it's going to end up to where... It's matchup dependent a little bit. I will say that. Yeah, Russ is better against a quick guard. I could see them, depending on the series and depending on the matchup, I could see them putting in Russ. And Christian was great off the bench. Like, it really didn't seem to affect him that much. And I kind of wonder whether Russ being off the bench would affect him more. So... Right. I don't know. It'll be interesting. I do agree.

[00:28:04] I think Russ will come back and start at least a little bit. Or Christian will take a couple game break. Like, I kind of hope that happens. We need to experiment with some of this stuff. Because, like, these bench guys have been kind of impressive the last two games. Well, it's been kind of weird in terms of... If you look at, like, games missed for, like, rotation players, I bet the Nuggets are up there. Right? As far as, like, Gordon's missed a lot of time. Then Murray was out for a while.

[00:28:34] The terrifying part of that... Now Watson and Russ have been out for a while. Jokic missed a lot of times or two. They showed this stat the other day during a national broadcast. And it's probably changed now. But we weren't in the top three. And I can't remember who was number one or what the order was. But Memphis and Oklahoma City were both in the top three. So if you'd like to be terrified... Chet's missed a bunch and Jaws missed.

[00:29:03] Yeah, that Memphis team is really interesting. Yeah, let's talk about the Super Bowl. Yeah. Yeah, there'll be plenty of time for this kind of... I don't want to talk about Memphis. Yeah. But... Good job, Nuggets. We'll say that. Yeah. And on to the Super Bowl. All right, Ryan. Eagles, Chiefs. This is the... I hope they both step on a Lego Super Bowl.

[00:29:34] That everyone was not cheering for. Who are you going to be cheering for? I think we should... I'm going to be cheering for whatever helps our parlay that we come up with during this show. So I genuinely... I don't... Philly fans have soured me so much on them through the Jokic and Embiid and just all that stuff. Like...

[00:30:03] I just... I can't. Like, I can't be like, oh my god, this is great. So... It's a rare thing for Philly to be America's team. Because it seems like everybody's sort of coalesced around, like, I don't want to see a three-peat for Mahomes. And... But cheering for Philly, just like, give me a break. Absolutely not. So I will also be cheering for my wallet.

[00:30:33] But I kind of... I low-key will be cheering a little bit for the Chiefs. Just because I think I would rather see greatness than see Philly win a title. God. Yeah. And Mahomes and Andy Reid are so good. It would be... It's different because I feel like Brady had almost felt fluky because he was such like a... I mean, he's like fat and out of shape from Michigan and then like turns into God.

[00:31:02] Whereas Patrick Mahomes is sort of always supposed to be good. And Andy Reid is just this fat, lovable, hamburger-eating trash monster. So, I don't know. I couldn't believe when this line opened, though. What was it when it opened? It's moved around so much. Yeah. It was minus two to minus one and a half. Then it got down to minus one. It's back to one and a half.

[00:31:31] I just assumed the Eagles would be favored. Like, the Eagles are loaded. And I think that Mina Kimes was who I saw, and I'm sure other people have said it. But if you just look at the roster, the Eagles are better. But the two things that matter the most, it seems, in Super Bowls and when you come down to the playoffs is quarterbacks and coaching.

[00:31:57] And Spagnola, Reid, and Mahomes are unbelievable. They'd be the first three picks in that draft. Yeah. So, it's like, is that enough to overcome all of this stuff? I kind of think if it is close, the Chiefs are going to win. You kind of think that? Or a shit ton of history and evidence tells you that? The second one.

[00:32:29] But if you told me one team blew out the other, I'd be like, oh, the Chiefs. I'd be like, oh, I'm putting a lot of money on the Eagles. Like, I'd be like, the Eagles blew them out. Like, the talent was just too much. They, you know, it was a revenge game. It was all the things, whatever they were. They couldn't figure it out. And, you know, they ran out of gas. Like, so, that's what makes this game hard for me as far as, like, handicapping it or figuring it out is because.

[00:32:57] So, I guess, going to you, what do you think? Do you think this is going to be a close game? Yeah. I think this is likely a field goal game. Well, then do we make our first leg of our parlay the Chiefs? Minus one and a half? No. Because I just agree.

[00:33:23] I mean, obviously, I agree with you that the Eagles have more talent because that's objectively true, right? Like, you can't really argue that point. Right. So, I would be terrified to be a Chiefs pregame better. Because, so, I guess the first thing that you're asking yourself as the Chiefs is how are we going to stop Saquon Barkley?

[00:33:49] And they have an unbelievable defensive mind in charge of that in Steve Spags. And it's possible that they could do that. But what I, the question I would ask is, what the fuck do you think these other teams have been doing every week? Do you not think that their goal has been to stop Saquon Barkley?

[00:34:18] Like, the Commanders gave up an 80-yard touchdown run on the first play. Like, what do you think that they're doing? So, the Eagles' strength of schedule has been terrible. They've only played four top 12 DVOA defenses the whole season, including the playoffs. Like, so, this is kind of, for me... How many did the Chiefs play?

[00:34:49] The, I mean, that's a great question. Well, they had to be up there because their schedule was brutal. Defensively? I mean, we were up there. Played us twice. I don't know. And then they played the Ravens. They played, like... So, my point is, I think that the strategy that Spags and them are going to use is going to be a little bit better just because of the talent base. Like, Chris Jones is really good.

[00:35:18] So, that's... I wanted to ask you that first. So, I think... Are we just saying we're not quite confident enough to start our parlay off with the game? Okay. The money line is not good. No good. I would love, then, can I interest you in a... No, any player to rush for 100 yards. No. We're not doing that.

[00:35:48] Are you crazy? Who's getting it? Saquon Barkley. I saw... He's the first one to have a prop over 100 yards in, like, the last 20 years. It doesn't happen. Yeah. The only thing that scares me is Hurts. Just kind of taking off and... No. What scares me is Saquon ripping an 80-yard touchdown run. I mean, that also... The first quarter and then being like, well, that sucks. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:36:16] That was a cool play, but that felt terrible in my heart. No. Here, I'll throw out a couple things to you. Yeah. Yeah. Tell me where you're... What are you looking at? So, there were a couple things. Well, I've got some just regular props that I'll throw at you. So, I build these, you know, sort of off of how I think the game is going to go. Yep.

[00:36:38] I do think that Spags is probably going to be able to slow down Saquon Barkley enough in the first half. Okay? So, I think that they're going to have to pass a little bit in the first half. More than people are expecting for the Eagles offense. I'm also kind of expecting a low scoring, at least first quarter. All of these first quarters are typically low scoring. Yep.

[00:37:08] I am anticipating a Chiefs comeback win. It's just like, we have to be anticipating that at this point. Like, we... And the Eagles are a very good first half team. So, the script sort of fits what we typically... Like, I love Eagles, Chiefs, halftime, full-time bet. I don't know what the odds are off the top of my head. But here, I'll just throw a couple things at you.

[00:37:36] So, A.J. Brown, first quarter receiving yards, 10 plus, is minus 125. First quarter, 10 plus. He catches... He catches... He has 10 receiving yards in the first quarter. One ball. Seems pretty good. I'll let you chew on it. Yeah, I like it. I like it. Xavier Worthy, over 15 yards rushing. Plus 223.

[00:38:05] Yeah, I don't love it. Why not? It just feels like the cat's out of the bag with the Xavier Worthy stuff. It's rushing, though. I agree with you that he's... I know. But they've kind of... I feel like they've used it a little bit. Now, obviously, now they have more wide receivers back. You can't sit on it as much. All right. And all it takes is one. You're not wrong there. But I'm just worried about... Well, if he gets a carry and it's a positive yard carry, it's probably going to go for 15 yards. Yeah. I'm just worried about the one that doesn't.

[00:38:35] And he gets negative seven because he's 113 pounds. Ah, you're actually... That's a very good... Carl. You know what? I'm going to cross it out. You talked me out of it. This is why we do these calls, Kyle. Yeah. All right. I've got another one. Okay. Saquon, over 25 and a half yards longest rush. Plus 110. This has got to be one of the most public bets in the world. Yeah.

[00:39:02] But you just can't watch this man break 35, 40 yard runs every single game and say that he's not going to do it again. And you said 25 and a half? 25 and a half is all we need. What's the odds? He's hesitant. Plus 110. Plus 11. Plus 11. Well, it just goes against... My hot take was going to be that Saquon's played some just absolute dogshit defenses. And...

[00:39:32] I think that's a terrible take. But, I mean, you're kind of talking me into like, how do you feel the dumbest? You feel the dumbest by being like, I bet against Patrick Mahomes and he has the ball. There's two minutes left. F me. And just being like, I'm taking all the Saquon unders. And then you just watch him triple hurdle and like jump off of guys' helmets and fucking float through the air.

[00:39:59] It is not fun to bet against Saquon Barkley. That's not fun. And I'm looking for fun and winning money. So, you seem hesitant. 25 and a half. No, no, no. You're kind of talking me into it. All right. We'll leave it on there. Hey, Saquon's going to cook. I've got a whole list here we can just... So, I've also got over two and a half fourth down conversions by either team. That's plus 120. Over two and a half? Two and a half.

[00:40:31] Dude, you're talking tush push? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I mean, anything under two yards. I think both teams will be very aggressive with it. Two and a half is nothing. I think there's going to be for sure one in the first half. And then you feel great about there being two in the second, as long as the game is close. Yep. Which I think it will be. Yeah, I don't hate that. Can I get your take on one quickly? Yeah. To see if we can throw it in there.

[00:40:59] Obviously, I don't want to have in our parlay a touchdown score for Saquon at minus 185. I think he'll probably score, but why risk it? What about Kareem Hunt at plus 145? He's kind of sneakily been their number one back this whole playoff run. And he's kind of sneakily had the juice. He's scored in, what, the last two games, I think? Yeah. It just kind of feels like there's some juice there and there's some breakaway potential.

[00:41:29] And it just feels like the only reason he's below Travis Kelsey is pedigree of Travis Kelsey. Not like actual this year playoff production. And Swifty's betting for the first time. Yeah. So, I just wrote it down. I like that. I don't know if it's parlay worthy because I think we should really try to win this. And I think that's a little long shotty for a parlay, I think. Plus 145? 145?

[00:41:59] Well, I've got a parlay that I think you're going to like. And we could add that to the parlay and it would be, it'd make it even juicier. But I've got one more for you. There you go. A.J. Brown, longest catch, over 25 and a half yards, minus 115. I think A.J. Brown is going to have a potentially large game.

[00:42:27] It does feel like the only thing that can stop A.J. Brown from having a game is Jalen Hurts. Right? Right. And the last time we saw him, Jalen Hurts absolutely smoked to them. Like, even in that losing effort, Jalen Hurts was... He was unbelievable. People were talking about him maybe winning the Super Bowl MVP as a loser.

[00:42:57] Like, he was that good rushing in. It's one of the better performances. A lot of people have been saying this on podcasts, but it's like one of the better quarterback performances in a Super Bowl ever. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, he was unreal. And a big part of that is the Chiefs just play a lot of man traditionally. And Jalen Hurts is just markedly better against man. So they're going to either have to get a little bit out of their tendencies or hope that they can lock up.

[00:43:27] I also think that this is a game where, like, the Chiefs defense is really just, like, thinking field goals. They're like, field goals and we get a turnover or two. Like, just don't let them in the end zone. We need to make sure that... There's no way we're going to get them three and out. We need to make sure these fourth downs are going to be fourth and fours instead of fourth and ones. And, like, they're probably going to just go 30 to 30 more than we would like. That's fine. Stop them.

[00:43:58] Get a pick or two. Make a fumble. And then just field goals. Field goals, field goals, field goals. So I like the A.J. Brown. Unbelievable in terms of not turning the ball over. A lot of times I'm looking at, like, interception or fumbles or defensive props in that way. But I just don't trust either. I think those are wide betting opportunities depending on how the game is going. But I just don't see it being one of those games where it's going to be like, oh, they threw three picks combined. And I just don't see it going that way.

[00:44:27] I don't know if you disagree. No, I agree. The only thing is that, I mean, the Eagles have had a turnover machine up their ass the whole playoffs. I mean, they started off versus the Packers and the guy just fumbles the kickoff. But the Eagles haven't or the Chiefs haven't given the ball away. No, no, no, no. I mean, it's... I don't think they turned the ball over yet. No, no, no. I think it was an experience.

[00:44:54] And you have to think, like, both those games were in terrible weather. Like, this is inside a dome. Like, and remember that Green Bay game, by the way? Yes, it was cold. Yes, it was brutal. But this offense didn't look like what it did against, you know, the... No, but Green Bay is really good. Yeah. Like, that was the good team they played. And that offense could be stopped there, right?

[00:45:25] Yeah. A couple more for you here. These are... I couldn't decide which one of these I liked more. I think I'd love them both, potentially. But Philly over one and a half rushing touchdowns is minus 105. Between a Tush Push and Saquon, like... Yep, that feels great. Seems right. And then Kansas City. This one shocked me. Kansas City over one and a half rushing touchdowns is plus 225.

[00:45:57] They do so much trickery and weird pitch shit back there. Like, I don't know. I was surprised it was that big of a difference between Philly and Kansas City. I don't know what your thoughts are there. Yeah. I think that makes a lot of sense. Sounds like you like Philly. I'm so back and forth, man. I just... I feel like either way you bet in this game, you're going to feel stupid in the end.

[00:46:25] Because you're either going to be like... I bet against Mahomes with... When he's three points or less favorite. And he is undefeated in the playoffs as that. Even when he's down in the fourth quarter by a touchdown or less, this guy has a positive winning percentage in the playoffs. Dude, this is a live betting goldmine. I'm just praying that it does exactly what I want it to do and that Philly jumps out to an early lead. And I will just be...

[00:46:54] I'm going to be mortgaging your house on the Chiefs. Always a fun one. Where is your title, by the way? I think... Well, you know, we don't get into that here, right? What about opening kickoff to be a touchback or fair catch? Feels like it always is in the Super Bowl. Yeah. You're in a dome. What are the odds? Minus 220. It just feels like it can add a little something to our parlay.

[00:47:23] Can we same-game parlay that? I think so. Some of the props, they won't let you same-game parlay. I'll try to put it with something. I've got a couple more here. No, it can't be parlayed. You're right. Jalen Hurts over 40 rushing yards. Minus 105. It feels like maybe the Eagles played a little possum with the Commanders, with Jalen Hurts's.

[00:47:53] Well, and his knee has had two weeks now. Oh, agreed. But I'm just saying, he looked a little more spry than I thought he'd be out there against the Commanders. Like, you know. Yeah. And I think that they're going to be in a position where, again, I think that Spags is going to have a pretty decent game plan for Saquon. They're going to have to be passing the ball, which means that Jalen is going to be under pressure.

[00:48:23] And Jalen is probably going to have to use his legs more than he would like and more than he typically does. Because it's the Super Bowl and it doesn't matter. You just try to win the game. And I have a parlay that I've put together. It's the only parlay that I've put together. But I have one more prop that's a part of the parlay that I think is my favorite prop on the board right now. Okay. Are you ready?

[00:48:52] I'm ready for it. It's Chris Jones over a quarter of a sack plus 111. Okay. I like that. I was looking at the sack market. I think that makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Straight up the middle, baby. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and they throw them all over the place. Like, they'll move them around. And, like, I think they're going to play guys close to the line of scrimmage.

[00:49:21] And they're going to show some weird zone blitzes. They're going to show some stuff. So, like, it's not like you can just say, well, hold on. The Eagles line is really good. Yeah. They're going to fool them at one point. Or, like, they're going to have to try to be blocking a safety. And all of a sudden, Chris Jones is one-on-one. And that's a tough time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't hate that at all. So, hold on.

[00:49:48] I'm just going to see if I can add this anytime touchdown to this parlay real quick. So, here's the parlay. Oh, baby. You're going to like this, I think. Yeah. Kansas City plus seven and a half. Yeah. The over 39 and a half. Okay.

[00:50:18] Chris Jones to have a sack. Yeah. And Kareem Hunt anytime touchdown. Great. It's plus 460. Kind of think we might have done it. Without the Kareem Hunt touchdown, it's plus 170. That's what I had built out. I think the Kareem Hunt one stays in. I want to go to the podcast with it. I don't want to, you know.

[00:50:46] But I feel pretty good about Kareem getting in there. What if we take out the Chiefs? Oh, dude. This is it. Kareem Hunt anytime touchdown. This is it for so many reasons. Kareem Hunt anytime touchdown. Chris Jones to have a sack over 39 and a half, which is an alternate line. I mean, I think they're going to score 40 points, right? Yeah. Even in a low-scoring game, they're going to score 40. They're scoring 40. Yeah. That's plus 420.

[00:51:19] The 420 Blucifer Brothers parlayer, Ian? I don't know. I think it's kind of speaking to us. That sounds like clickbait worthy. They'd die. If Dan can't come up with a graphic for the 420 Blucifer Brothers parlayer, I'm just saying. I love that. I love it, Ryan. I couldn't love it anymore. I can't believe it's plus 420, honestly.

[00:51:49] It's a sign, Ryan. It's a sign from the gods above that this is meant to be. Are we too confident in Chris Jones getting a sack? It's the riskiest part for sure, but I just... Jalen Carter is actually better odds, believe it or not. I do believe it. That guy is terrifying. Do you see when he knocked the commander's guy unconscious? No, he's plus 123. The other guy is plus 111.

[00:52:19] Oh. Yeah. The only thing is I think the Eagles are going to play pretty straight up. Yeah, and it's Mahomes too. And I think outside is where you can hurt the Chiefs more than inside. Yeah. But, yeah, I think the plus 420 parlay is our move, Ryan. But just for fun, let's say score and who we think is going to win, and then we can get up out of here.

[00:52:50] Should we recap it for the people? Yes. Kareem Pun, Indycon, touchdown. Bang. Over 39 and a half. Bang. And... Chris Jones. Chris Jones to have a sack. Quarter of a sack. No, it's a A sack. A sack. Okay, great. Love that. You can't parlay the half a sack, unfortunately. That's fine. If you're going to bet it straight up, definitely look for the over-under market

[00:53:18] instead of the full sack, though. Yeah. Because it's worth paying a little bit to get the half a sack. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's great. You get there at the same time. Whatever, yeah. If we get half a sack hosed on this parlay, this might be the last episode of the podcast. Triumphant return, triumphant conclusion. Back for one night only. I also like the under in the first half. It's 23 and a half. Yeah.

[00:53:47] I like that. I just... I think I like the under for the whole game. So, that makes sense to me as far as what you're saying. First quarter is typically pretty low scoring. Are we too confident in 39 and a half? No, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. If anything, that's why the 23 and a half scares me. It's all the... Like, we've talked about it with some of our other ones, right? Like, it's AJ Brown catching one and just being gone. Yeah.

[00:54:17] It's Xavier Worthy just being gone. It's Jalen Hurts taking off. It's Saquon taking off. It's like a blown coverage with Bateman. Like, there's just a lot of things where you're just like, good Lord. Like, this could be bad. Yeah, a lot of big play potential. Yeah. And so, both these defenses are good, but like, these are just... Yeah.

[00:54:44] If I had to say, though, gun to my head, I'd take Chiefs 24-21. We're squeaking the over there. Sure. I'm going to take Chiefs 31-28. God. 31-28, what a game. Yeah, I think it's going to be fun. Yeah. Well...

[00:55:13] I think Saquon, I do... I'm not going to bet on this because I think the odds are just out of whack. Yeah. But I might bet on Saquon to have like 180 yards or something stupid. Like, I think he... I think that he could have just an unbelievable game. Yeah. Hey, listen. Feels possible. Anything is possible with Saquon this year.

[00:55:43] If you're betting this game pre-game, you must have just like an unbelievable hunch. I just don't know how anybody can be like, oh, this is perfect. I'm going to take this. Yeah. Yeah. If you're from Philly and Kansas City, I get it. But outside of like being a fan of the team, I just... I don't know. It's terrifying. Yeah. It's... Yeah.

[00:56:11] You're definitely going to bet on the Chiefs by the time the game rolls around. I will not be putting anything on the outcome of this game. Well... What's your favorite product? That's incorrect. I'll probably put something on it. But the 420 parlay, Ryan. The 420 parlay is great. If you're looking for something to where you're like, listen, I just want to get a little something down pre-game.

[00:56:35] I think you could do worse than your 10 and a half A.J. Brown first quarter yards. Oh, yeah. You just cash that and then you just live betting with that the rest of the game. Um... I was going to say, if I had to... If I had to recommend like a way to build your night with some betting, I would take that A.J. Brown first quarter yards. I'd take Eagles at the half. Just Moneyline.

[00:57:05] And then I'd take, uh... Maybe A.J. Brown longest catch over 25 and a half too. Because that could be like his first catch. And then you're catching both of them at the same time. That's exciting. And then maybe, uh... Chris Jones over a quarter of a sack. And then have the 420 parlay is like your snack on top of that. I think you'd do worse. I think you'd do worse. Also, everyone just be careful with Saquon.

[00:57:34] Just be careful with him. Yeah. On both sides, by the way. Yeah, for real. If you're super confident, he's going to suck. That's a wild position. And if you're like, he's going to have 5 million yards like he did against the Commanders. Well, this isn't the Commanders. I do think a little bit of live betting that I've been taking advantage of with Saquon. He often scores. He's not a bad first touchdown.

[00:58:03] I think those odds actually are still pretty good. Is he's like plus 475 or something to be the first touchdown scorer? Yeah, the first one is never... You never get too bad of odds. When he's that to have an anytime touchdown, to get those odds to be first kind of seems like a bargain. Yeah. I probably will play some money on that.

[00:58:24] But the other thing I was going to say is when he does routinely score early in the game, you can get him to have another touchdown, sometimes at like plus 400. So, something to consider if he does score in the first quarter and it seems like it's going to be a shootout. He's had two touchdowns, I think, in the last three games or something.

[00:58:53] It's not too shabby. Not too shabby. It's going to be fun, I think. Yeah. It's going to be a fun game. I'm looking forward to it. The Bluesford brothers will be together. So, until Dan has to go do laundry, which usually happens about three minutes into the game and then he's pretty locked into that. I'm going to go with Dan to do laundry this time. Wow. He's going to be the laundry brothers. That'll be good.

[00:59:25] But thank you for listening. Back to the first episode. After this, we're going to be into the home stretch. We're going to have some All-Star stuff. Go Team Chuck. We're going. For that. And we're not going. Allow me to squelch that immediately. Well, if somebody will send us, we'll go. Even then, it'd be tough for me to ball. Nah, man. You'd be fine.

[00:59:55] But yeah. I'll deal with all this stuff. It feels good to be back with the fellas. Thanks for listening to the episode. And subscribe. Leave us a review. And we promise that. Five stars. Five stars. We're going to record after this one. Unless we get hosed on a Chris Jones sack. Yeah. If it's a quarter. If he ends the game with a half sack. I don't know what I'll do.

[01:00:25] Pray for us. Yeah. It's going to be a. It'll be fun to be back on a regular cadence. As the Nuggets season sort of ramps up. Nothing but a good time. All right. Fight another championship in our future. God. I couldn't handle myself. All right. Well. We'll talk to you next week. Good luck with your Super Bowl bets. And. Go Nuggets. Vamos Nuggets. Bye.

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