The Brothers kick off with a quick Nuggets chat, break down the very exciting Jets game, and look ahead to the divisional rivalry game at home this week vs. the Raiders. Make sure to catch their best bets of the week at the end of the pod!
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[00:00:01] Do you know what it's like to really hate someone? I mean, really hate them. With a passion, a fury, a vengeance. You know what I'm talking about? Well, these guys do. You gotta come on.
[00:00:17] The Raiders and Broncos. They can't stand each other. Like good hates evil. And evil hates good.
[00:00:27] They share players and coaches. Now tell me that don't breed contempt. What if you yard sale some old drawings to a neighbor up the street and they turned out to beat the Finchies? You hate his guts, right? You're damn right you would. And we're just talking about some ink on paper. Now what if the stakes were playoffs, championships, respect, huh? Now you don't just hate them all. You wanna hit them. You wanna bury them in the turf. You wanna move them.
[00:00:58] You wanna say, I like your teeth. Especially the ones scattered around the 20 yard line. You want their mamas to say, Oh no, that's not my child. My child has a face. Well, that's what's going on here tonight. There are Raiders. There are Broncos. There's an enclosed face. There's piles and piles of hate. And there's you. So I ask you, are you ready for some football? Well, are you pumped? Welcome in. Thank you, Samuel L. Jackson. Getting us pumped up.
[00:01:37] We're 500, Ryan. I'm tired of these snakes on my...
[00:01:43] Take them to London.
[00:01:45] Alright. Take them to London. Get out of the United States. That's how bad the Jets were.
[00:01:49] It's been nothing but good vibes, Ryan, since we last spoke.
[00:01:53] How have you been doing?
[00:01:55] We, uh... Dan had to go visit Mickey Mouse last week.
[00:02:00] Um, so...
[00:02:02] I guess maybe, you know, we took a week off.
[00:02:05] We still posted the pics out there.
[00:02:06] But how have you been?
[00:02:08] Since we last talked, the Broncos are winning.
[00:02:12] The Nuggets have reported for camp.
[00:02:13] Everything's looking great.
[00:02:14] Yeah, it's a good time to be a Denver sports fan.
[00:02:18] Um, I don't know.
[00:02:20] Dan sent something in the Instagram chat that, uh, made me wonder if I was still allowed to
[00:02:26] be a Broncos fan.
[00:02:27] It seemed to be throwing shade at my brief hiatus as a Dolphins fan.
[00:02:33] Wow.
[00:02:33] Uh, a man just saying that people were gonna start hopping on the bandwagon, which is just
[00:02:39] classic Denver hopium.
[00:02:41] Like, who's gonna, who's gonna be hopping on this bandwagon?
[00:02:47] Um, but, you know, other than that, uh, other than getting some shade from my own podcast
[00:02:55] brethren, uh, things have been going well.
[00:02:58] The Abu Dhabi slash opening training camp vibes, Ryan, are immaculate.
[00:03:05] Uh, obviously we're gonna get into the Broncos here, but I do quickly want to touch on these
[00:03:09] Nuggets.
[00:03:10] I'm glad you brought them up.
[00:03:11] Uh, I, uh, Dan, if you could mark this in the podcast and mark me down as a 10 out of
[00:03:18] 10 on the Russell Westbrook train, uh, we can keep track of this throughout the year.
[00:03:22] Right now, um, it's, it's burgeoning on an 11.
[00:03:26] Um, I, I'm like a middle school boy at a dance with a girl just minor grinding.
[00:03:32] Just, oh wow.
[00:03:33] It's poking through the jeans.
[00:03:35] Oh wow.
[00:03:35] I'm gonna have to tuck it up here soon.
[00:03:37] Yeah, you got a full tuck into the waistband.
[00:03:40] Goodness gracious.
[00:03:42] I am excited out here.
[00:03:44] What do you think the floor of that number is gonna be?
[00:03:47] If you had to predict what the floor of the Russell Westbrook experience is gonna be for you
[00:03:51] personally.
[00:03:52] This is not, you know, for writ large Nuggets Nation.
[00:03:55] Yeah.
[00:03:55] For you personally, what do you think that floor is gonna be?
[00:03:58] Cause I think, I think that, that range would be interesting.
[00:04:01] I think, I think it could go down, I think the only way it could go below a five would
[00:04:06] be playoffs.
[00:04:07] Yeah.
[00:04:08] Like, he'd have to F us in a playoff game that like was really important, like knocked
[00:04:14] us out or something.
[00:04:15] Right?
[00:04:15] Like it'd have to be that kind of a thing.
[00:04:17] Um, because like Russ is gonna have some bad shooting games and Russ is gonna have some
[00:04:22] overaggressive games.
[00:04:24] And that's just part of the process.
[00:04:26] But I also think there's gonna be about five games this season that we lost last year because
[00:04:32] no one gave a shit that Russ is just gonna come in and be like, I am absolutely furious
[00:04:38] and I have no idea why.
[00:04:39] And he's gonna single-handedly make the second unit good.
[00:04:44] Yeah.
[00:04:44] And, um, I think the style of play, the way Malone is attacking him, uh, like Pete Westbrook
[00:04:51] was talking about, like, he's been having to do a lot of like off-ball stuff.
[00:04:55] Like he played with Harden and those guys.
[00:04:57] And he's like, that's not really my strength.
[00:04:58] Like I'm, you know, trying to, I've, you know, I'm a downhill player and I think the
[00:05:04] Nuggets are just like, yeah, do that, dude.
[00:05:06] That's fine.
[00:05:07] Go downhill.
[00:05:08] Yeah.
[00:05:08] If you want to shoot 20 times when Jokic and Murray are off the floor, chuck them up,
[00:05:14] dude.
[00:05:14] Don't shoot threes.
[00:05:15] We were letting Reggie Jackson do that.
[00:05:17] Don't shoot threes.
[00:05:18] Don't shoot threes, Russ.
[00:05:19] I'm telling you don't shoot threes.
[00:05:21] But, yeah.
[00:05:22] Everything else, like go at it, dog.
[00:05:24] Yep.
[00:05:24] I was watching some, uh, I got fed some Instagram reel today about, and it was two, it was from
[00:05:31] a player podcast and whatever player it was, I think it was Teague maybe, was telling the
[00:05:37] story about being on the, uh, uh, the D Rose.
[00:05:43] No, the D Rose 50 piece in Minnesota.
[00:05:46] And he's talking about how everybody's crying and like, you know, it's this big emotional
[00:05:52] moment because it was like his first return back to like, oh, I'm, I'm good again.
[00:05:56] I still have this in me, you know?
[00:05:58] Yeah.
[00:05:58] And I really hope that Russ gets a moment in Denver, you know, maybe raising a banner
[00:06:04] where, you know, the team is so excited for him because I think that that he can play
[00:06:10] that role and we, we missed vets like Jeff Green and we missed these guys and we immediately
[00:06:17] replaced them with Russell Westbrook and Dario Saric.
[00:06:22] And I think Dario Saric is going to be maybe the one that I'm standing for a little bit too
[00:06:27] hard because I think he's going to need it first of all, but he is going to be, I think, extremely
[00:06:33] likable on this team.
[00:06:34] Yes.
[00:06:35] I think Saric is fine.
[00:06:36] I think, uh, I think Jokic kind of gets a white European players pass on our team.
[00:06:42] Uh, also you have to remember, this is the fan base at large that, uh, once, uh, gave a
[00:06:47] participation clap to Plumlee after he air balled a free throw, but booed Will Barton.
[00:06:52] Uh, so, um, I think Russ is going to need more support and let me tell you, 372 is going
[00:06:59] to be a safe zone for you.
[00:07:00] Well, I'm, I'm not telling, I'm not saying that I'm going to not support Russ, but
[00:07:04] I'm saying you, you, I actually think I, and I, I think that they're going to be good
[00:07:10] together.
[00:07:11] Yes.
[00:07:11] Like Dario can slow key shoot the ball.
[00:07:15] So I, I am really excited about that potential, uh, opportunity.
[00:07:21] It's the perfect balance, right?
[00:07:22] You have some guys who know how to play and know how to get like manufacture points, get
[00:07:28] looks.
[00:07:28] And then you just have young players who will be athletic and will not be sad to be out
[00:07:33] there and let those guys like tell them what to do.
[00:07:35] If I brought a camel into this room right now, would you ride it?
[00:07:38] Yeah, of course, dude.
[00:07:40] I would, I would ride a camel.
[00:07:42] I would, I've been liking those videos too.
[00:07:45] Um, Katie Winsch had a great thing.
[00:07:47] Yeah, no, no, no.
[00:07:48] It would be a little unsettling, I think.
[00:07:50] But Katie Winsch had a great thing at the team dinner.
[00:07:51] DJ getting on a, DJ getting on a camel.
[00:07:55] I'm just, that's what I'm saying.
[00:07:57] Do they, is it like a horse where they make, they've got like a really beefy camel?
[00:08:01] I think camels are pretty big, but I don't know.
[00:08:03] I mean, they're huge, but.
[00:08:04] Interact with us, let us know.
[00:08:05] Anyway, Nuggets vibes insanely high.
[00:08:08] I think it's going to be super fun.
[00:08:09] I also have liked seeing some, uh, Murray knocking down some shots in the, this scrimmage.
[00:08:14] If, I don't know about you, I, I understand it's just scrimmage.
[00:08:18] I understand it's preseason.
[00:08:19] I understand there's lifetime mellow.
[00:08:21] There's all these off-season videos that happen.
[00:08:23] Listen, I needed to see a little bit of that and it makes me feel better.
[00:08:28] So I'm going to choose to, uh, let myself feel better about it.
[00:08:31] I was, I was actually thinking about this today.
[00:08:33] And I think Murray is one of the few type of people that will sign the extension and play better.
[00:08:41] Yeah.
[00:08:41] Because he doesn't have to think about it as opposed to having like a slump and being like,
[00:08:46] well, I got paid.
[00:08:46] So like, I think he's going to be like, okay, people don't think I deserve this money.
[00:08:51] Let me go show you how much I did deserve this money.
[00:08:54] Yeah.
[00:08:54] So I'm, I'm, I'm optim, I'm cautiously optimistic.
[00:08:58] I'm in, I'm in on the, uh.
[00:09:00] He also threw down in one of the videos that I saw, which made me very, and he was like explosive, explosive.
[00:09:08] Yeah.
[00:09:09] Uh, and I'm hoping that Jim or Russ brings a little bit of that out of him.
[00:09:13] Yeah.
[00:09:14] I also think that they're, uh, they're preparing to, uh, there's been talk of MPJ and then we
[00:09:22] can get into the Broncos, uh, thrilling victory, um, and upcoming game.
[00:09:27] Um, but MPJ bulking up and them saying they're going to use them before to me, that says we're
[00:09:35] going to play small ball.
[00:09:36] We're going to play Saric at five, which he's done a lot.
[00:09:38] Like he's guarded Jokic at five, right?
[00:09:41] And then he's our backup five.
[00:09:43] You have Saric at five, you have Porter at four, and then you have P Watt, you have Russ,
[00:09:50] like, and then Strother or Brown, whoever, no, Braun, he hasn't, he plays better with that.
[00:09:57] Um, they, whichever, you know, the other one is, and you kind of look at it and you're
[00:10:02] like, this just kind of makes sense, dude.
[00:10:04] Like you got shooting with Saric, um, like shooting with MPJ, shooting with either one,
[00:10:12] um, Strother probably more.
[00:10:14] So, but then you just have a Russ just flying.
[00:10:19] I mean.
[00:10:20] At the basket.
[00:10:21] We really should move on, but the reason not to go small is probably the Timberwolves and
[00:10:27] they just traded the reason not to go small.
[00:10:30] So.
[00:10:30] We have, we should touch on that quickly.
[00:10:32] We haven't been able to record something since then.
[00:10:35] Um, it, it was a matter of time that Timberwolves had to do it for the long-term health of their
[00:10:41] team, but this is the classic move where you hope that.
[00:10:45] Are you sure?
[00:10:45] For Tim Conley's sake.
[00:10:48] Well.
[00:10:48] You hope that he got the approval from him because this is the classic small market to
[00:10:56] mid-market team thing where you can either be stupid and pay the luxury tax and then the
[00:11:02] guy leaves anyway and you're so.
[00:11:05] They have to pay Randall too.
[00:11:07] And then the guy goes, well, the Randall's one year.
[00:11:11] But you just gave away cap for a year of Randall?
[00:11:14] Well, and DiVincenzo.
[00:11:16] Um, but, and DiVincenzo's not bad by the way.
[00:11:20] No, he's really good.
[00:11:21] I think there's a lot of overlap, um, with his skillset, but he's a much better shooter
[00:11:26] than like Jaden McDaniels and some of those guys who the Nuggets were not guarding by the
[00:11:30] end of that series.
[00:11:31] Right?
[00:11:31] Like if you don't guard Dante DiVincenzo, he shot 40% from three last year.
[00:11:35] He was awesome on the Bucs championship team.
[00:11:38] Yep.
[00:11:39] So.
[00:11:39] Yeah.
[00:11:40] Um, but it, it feels like, like you said, the short term day got worse.
[00:11:47] Um, and.
[00:11:48] Well, they're, they're just, they're a lot better of a matchup for the Nuggets specifically.
[00:11:54] I don't know that their team, I think the Randall thing is going to be interesting, but I'm not
[00:11:58] scared of them as much anymore.
[00:11:59] Like their problem for Jokic was they had so many bodies to throw at him and they just
[00:12:05] got rid of one.
[00:12:06] So it's, you, Jokic is going to bust them up a gun this year, which is like, we can talk
[00:12:14] about more about his, uh, beard and, uh, his, yeah, he's, I, I'm just very excited for the
[00:12:22] season.
[00:12:23] I think this team is going to be very fun.
[00:12:25] Yep.
[00:12:25] It feels like we have a little edge back.
[00:12:27] Um, and Malone says wasn't there.
[00:12:29] Yeah.
[00:12:30] So.
[00:12:30] And I think that's good.
[00:12:32] Um, speaking of getting our edge back, 10, nine AFC football, Ryan, uh, the Broncos,
[00:12:43] uh, one of my picks was Jets minus seven and a half.
[00:12:46] Um, I thought this was a terrible matchup.
[00:12:49] Obviously, uh, uh, Singleton, uh, or I'm sorry, not Singleton.
[00:12:54] Um, what is his name?
[00:12:58] Uh, middle linebacker was our, was our mic.
[00:13:01] Um, and, uh, he tore his ACL and kept playing versus the Bucs.
[00:13:06] Which is wildly impressive.
[00:13:08] Yeah.
[00:13:08] Oh, was that Alex Singleton?
[00:13:10] Yeah.
[00:13:10] Alex Singleton.
[00:13:11] Sorry.
[00:13:11] Um, and so I thought that, I thought the Jets defense looked good.
[00:13:16] They just had, they've, the offense has been starting to turn up a little bit.
[00:13:19] We don't really have a pass rush.
[00:13:21] We don't have McGlinchey.
[00:13:23] Like there were a lot of things focused on this and it was in pretty much everyone's
[00:13:29] teaser, which I did stay away from, uh, the Chiefs Jets teaser, which everyone in America
[00:13:34] had.
[00:13:36] Um, but teasers are getting slaughtered this year, by the way.
[00:13:40] Yeah.
[00:13:41] Unless you're just taking underdogs six points and you're just teasing them up.
[00:13:45] They're outright winning.
[00:13:46] You should be taking the money line.
[00:13:49] Yeah.
[00:13:49] This was another one of underdog by six or more points that won outright.
[00:13:54] I think there's something like almost 60% this year.
[00:13:57] Can I share something with the podcast?
[00:13:59] You sure can.
[00:14:00] So I made a wager live on the Broncos when, uh, I can't remember.
[00:14:08] They must, I think the Jets must've just scored their touchdown and the Broncos were plus 470
[00:14:14] and I made like a not insignificant.
[00:14:17] It was going to pay out like $500 or something.
[00:14:22] Um, and I felt pretty good about the bet, but really the reason I made it is like, I
[00:14:26] think we're going to score here.
[00:14:28] And so I, I'm going to get a better value here and I'll cash it out.
[00:14:33] And so they score and we're up.
[00:14:36] I think it was this, the score that put us up and, uh, there weren't, there were only
[00:14:40] two.
[00:14:41] Yeah.
[00:14:41] I was like, yeah, it had to be.
[00:14:42] And we missed the final kick.
[00:14:44] So it wasn't that.
[00:14:46] So, uh, we score and it's 10, nine.
[00:14:50] And I'm like, absolutely no shot.
[00:14:52] The Broncos win this game.
[00:14:54] Cash that puppy out for about half of what I should have made.
[00:14:58] Uh, so when is a, when is a win?
[00:15:00] It is, but it hurt.
[00:15:01] Yeah.
[00:15:02] Uh, so those are the ones that, that do.
[00:15:04] Yeah.
[00:15:05] Um, so I guess going through that one, how good do you think legitimately this Broncos
[00:15:15] defenses versus it was weather and the jets are worse than we thought?
[00:15:20] What, what kind of combination do you play there?
[00:15:23] It's both end, but I think the defense is definitely good.
[00:15:27] Uh, there's, you, you can't do that to this many teams.
[00:15:35] Like even the teams that have beat us, you know, it's not been necessarily, I think the
[00:15:41] defense has gotten tired more than they've, uh, played poorly.
[00:15:46] You know, it's not, it's, it's because we don't have any offensive production.
[00:15:51] The Steelers game is the only game that still pisses me off with what the defense did.
[00:15:53] They didn't give up tons of points still in it, but just the soft coverage and the easy
[00:15:59] things they were giving up.
[00:16:00] But it seems like that's a game plan thing almost.
[00:16:03] Yeah.
[00:16:03] Not the players.
[00:16:04] Yeah.
[00:16:04] So I think there's more talent on that side of the ball than we thought there was to begin
[00:16:08] the year.
[00:16:09] And I think it's, they're not going to be a top 10 defense.
[00:16:13] Like, I don't think that that's the case, but I think that they're pretty good and they'll
[00:16:18] keep us in games if Bo Nix allows them to.
[00:16:21] Um, so the, I would say my two biggest surprise Broncos thus far would both be on the defense.
[00:16:29] And the first is obviously he's been getting a lot more, um, publicity of Riley Moss, uh,
[00:16:36] the rookie cornerback.
[00:16:37] Um, but the best player on our defense has been Zach Allen and it's not particularly close.
[00:16:44] And I think he's like a top five interior defensive lineman.
[00:16:48] Like he was wrecking the shit out of games.
[00:16:50] Like he'll crush the run and then he's getting insane pressure up the middle too.
[00:16:55] And like, he was in Roger's face.
[00:16:59] I was going to take him again to have a sack.
[00:17:02] I bet on it two weeks ago is one of my best bets.
[00:17:04] But the lot, the player props for the defense aren't out yet.
[00:17:09] So, but that is a, just a free, I mean, because he's an interior lineman, his odds are out of
[00:17:16] whack, but like he's going to get pressure.
[00:17:19] He's going to be there.
[00:17:21] And his line was 0.25.
[00:17:24] So even if he gets half a sack, it's like, and it feels like money because there's not as
[00:17:30] much talent, especially with like Browning's been banged up.
[00:17:33] Um, it feels like all of our schemes and blitzes or stuff are like, can we get Zach Allen one
[00:17:39] on one?
[00:17:40] Yeah.
[00:17:40] And we don't care if our linebacker gets home or whoever.
[00:17:43] It's just like, Hey, can we have one lineman trying to block Zach Allen?
[00:17:47] Uh, cause I bet he's going to just do some unholy things to that man.
[00:17:51] So I think those are the two things that coming into the season, maybe I underestimated Zach
[00:17:55] Allen was like pretty meh the first like five, six weeks of last year.
[00:18:01] And then he came on at the end.
[00:18:03] Um, and man, this year he is unreal.
[00:18:09] And then Riley Moss, he had the one pass interference in the end zone, which wasn't like a wild,
[00:18:15] dumb pass interference.
[00:18:16] Like he was genuinely coming back on the ball.
[00:18:18] He got there a little early.
[00:18:19] Like it's whatever in today's NFL, honestly.
[00:18:23] Um, and so I, I can't find a lot of mistakes for him.
[00:18:29] And that was one of the things that we harped on in the preseason was like, okay, we have
[00:18:33] certain, but like, who else are we putting a corner?
[00:18:36] They're going to throw all over and everyone throws at Riley because that's what you still
[00:18:42] should do.
[00:18:43] Yeah.
[00:18:43] And he has been great over there.
[00:18:46] And I worry about a rookie wall.
[00:18:49] I worry about, you know, obviously what the, what that looks like is more and more people
[00:18:53] get tape on you and kind of your tendencies to the corner and all that, but he's been awesome.
[00:18:58] And I wish I would have seen, um, and, and maybe he did it during the season.
[00:19:03] I think he did, but I saw this past week, the, uh, it was before the jets game, but they
[00:19:11] were like, he was talking about the Vikings be like, well, how would you, you know, do
[00:19:15] you think you can guard Justin Jefferson?
[00:19:16] And he's like, does he bleed red?
[00:19:18] He's like, I bleed red.
[00:19:19] He's like, so he's like, I don't care if he's, he's like, yeah, he's great.
[00:19:22] He's like, but I can cover anybody.
[00:19:24] Like, he's like, I'm going to go out there and I'm going to go after him.
[00:19:27] Like he may be me.
[00:19:29] I may be him.
[00:19:30] Somebody, but I'm scared of Justin Jefferson.
[00:19:32] And I was like, wish I would have seen this because, uh, anyone who's like, yeah, I'm
[00:19:38] not scared of probably the best wide receivers in the league.
[00:19:40] You can be our number two corner.
[00:19:43] You're, if you're not scared of Justin Jefferson, you're certainly, uh, not afraid of Alan Lazard.
[00:19:50] Uh, out there, you're not like, oh man, that guy.
[00:19:55] It's not an easy job though, which to your point about the rookie wall, like he might hit
[00:20:00] that a little bit harder because he's got PS2 on the other side.
[00:20:03] And it's like, you're just going to get targeted.
[00:20:06] Like if they find that thing that you're not good at, you better get good at it quick because
[00:20:11] they're going to exploit the shit out of it.
[00:20:13] So it's, uh, I think the defense is, it's going to have its ups and downs, right?
[00:20:22] Like I don't think that we have enough talent that this is sustainable, um, on a week to
[00:20:27] week basis where we can be counting on this lockdown defense.
[00:20:31] I think we can count on it this weekend.
[00:20:34] Um, but yeah.
[00:20:37] Yeah.
[00:20:38] Say what you will about Aaron Rodgers, but Gardner Minshew, I do think is worse than him.
[00:20:42] I do think Gardner is worse.
[00:20:45] Um, that weather did look, it like almost wasn't coming through.
[00:20:50] It looked awful.
[00:20:51] Cause it wasn't, cause you know, like sometimes you can see the flags whipping and they're
[00:20:56] like Sala looked like he had been to Diddy's house.
[00:21:01] His head was so slick.
[00:21:04] It was, I mean, it was, uh, it looked very surprising news will be coming in the fourth.
[00:21:20] So that's, uh, maybe breaking news there from you, right?
[00:21:23] Um, but yeah, I mean, but you know what I mean?
[00:21:27] Like there's sometimes where you can like see the weather so terribly and it didn't look
[00:21:32] like the wind was so bad, but, or that like the rain was like sleeting or the snow was
[00:21:38] kind of, but like both quarterbacks couldn't hold on to the ball.
[00:21:43] Like they were both just looking at their hands on the sideline, just like what the, like.
[00:21:50] Can you imagine if it wasn't Aaron?
[00:21:52] I had this thought during the game.
[00:21:53] Could you imagine if it wasn't Aaron Rodgers on the other side, what Denver would be saying
[00:21:58] about Bo Nix?
[00:21:59] They'd be like, his hands are too small.
[00:22:02] He can't grip the ball.
[00:22:03] Well, but like you had one of the greatest quarterbacks in the world on the other side
[00:22:07] also doing just insanely dumb stuff on a regular basis.
[00:22:12] So it, that tells you how bad it was.
[00:22:15] And Bo Nix is so lucky that he got to play that game against Aaron Rodgers as opposed to
[00:22:21] say Gardner Minshew.
[00:22:23] Yeah.
[00:22:23] Yeah.
[00:22:23] Yeah.
[00:22:24] You do that against Gardner and everyone's like, I don't care what the weather is.
[00:22:27] You gotta throw more negative seven yards.
[00:22:29] Yeah.
[00:22:30] Yeah.
[00:22:30] Um, got his first touchdown.
[00:22:32] Um, pass.
[00:22:34] Uh, it was a great catch by Corlin Sutton.
[00:22:36] Uh, he definitely put that thing too high, but that's fine.
[00:22:40] Um, if you're going to miss miss high, uh, especially if you've had two red zone interceptions.
[00:22:45] Um, so I don't mind that.
[00:22:47] Uh, the last thing I think to just in the recap, before we look ahead is Javante in the
[00:22:55] second half, it was very weird because the Broncos like just, it was pure depression.
[00:23:02] Like it didn't look like we were going to be able to run past anything.
[00:23:06] Right.
[00:23:07] Um, but all of a sudden in that second half, Javante got going and like, there were some
[00:23:14] times where he was carrying guys again, like, and where it was like, Oh, okay.
[00:23:19] He's got that little burst through the hole where you're like, Oh shit.
[00:23:23] He's already got four yards.
[00:23:24] Like, you know, and now he's dragging somebody for three.
[00:23:26] Um, so encouraging sign for him.
[00:23:32] How, uh, from the Russell Wilson 10 out of 10 enthusiasm that I have, he's back.
[00:23:39] Russell Westbrook.
[00:23:40] Russell Westbrook.
[00:23:41] Yes.
[00:23:42] Good Lord.
[00:23:43] You're right there.
[00:23:45] Mr. Westbrook.
[00:23:46] I apologize.
[00:23:47] Um, they, but from that level of enthusiasm to Russell Wilson, um, one out of 10, uh, where,
[00:23:57] where are you in the Javante Williams is back a little bit.
[00:23:59] Cause he's going to be featured with, um, the injuries that have happened to the backfield.
[00:24:04] Like there's not, it's him and McLarkin.
[00:24:08] Like there's not a lot of other options here.
[00:24:11] Yeah.
[00:24:12] I, I'm not necessarily buying that hype.
[00:24:14] Um, I think that that jets front seven is our front five is not very good.
[00:24:22] Um, so I am not buying it necessarily.
[00:24:28] And I don't think this week is going to be a good week to be testing any of our theories
[00:24:33] out, but hopefully he just looks more healthy, right?
[00:24:38] Like that's really the bottom line and what you're saying.
[00:24:41] And I think that can be transferable.
[00:24:45] It's just like, again, is it a week to week thing?
[00:24:48] Like, I don't think so.
[00:24:49] I don't think he's going to be a 90, 80 yard guy every week.
[00:24:53] Like that doesn't seem right.
[00:24:55] It feels, it just felt like it was a good checklist for Javante, right?
[00:24:58] Like it was like, this was the first time I feel like since he's come back from the ACL
[00:25:02] that I was like, Javante is seeking contact when like, he's not like, oh, I'm going to
[00:25:08] try to juke and avoid everybody.
[00:25:10] He's like, you're sauce gardener.
[00:25:11] I'm running your ass over you.
[00:25:13] Like the quickest path to the end zone is straight, sir.
[00:25:17] Like it felt like that.
[00:25:19] And so that's got to feel good to check a box.
[00:25:21] Even if, like you said, I tend to agree with you.
[00:25:23] I'm not like a 10 out of 10.
[00:25:24] And Javante's back to that kind of all almost, you know, like, I can't remember if he went
[00:25:29] to the pro bowl, but, or like, but like he was an unbelievable talent, right?
[00:25:34] I'm not saying, I don't think he's that, but getting that checklist there and having that
[00:25:39] as a threat, especially late in games, when it feels like, like you said, we're going to
[00:25:43] be on a run the ball, time control, defensive struggles.
[00:25:49] Once again, that, that feels like an asset to me.
[00:25:53] Yeah.
[00:25:54] It's not going to be your Peyton Manning 41, 45 games.
[00:25:59] I don't think we have that.
[00:26:00] Your, your pipe dream from the preseason of the fun goes off.
[00:26:06] It's long gone.
[00:26:08] No, no, no, no.
[00:26:12] Speaking of this week, we've got, we played the clip in the opening.
[00:26:19] It's Raiders week.
[00:26:21] It doesn't feel like it means as much as it used to be.
[00:26:25] Yeah.
[00:26:26] But like.
[00:26:26] It'd be like the whole week on the radio.
[00:26:28] I still don't like the Raiders.
[00:26:31] And it still bothers me that they've beaten us eight straight times.
[00:26:34] And that during that time, they haven't been that good.
[00:26:40] And right now they kind of seem like they're a dumpster fire.
[00:26:44] Devontae Adams, tons of trade rumors.
[00:26:47] It kind of appears that he might've been who Coach Pierce was talking about when he was
[00:26:53] talking about business decisions being made.
[00:26:56] Coach Pierce wouldn't refer to him by his name.
[00:27:00] He said number 17 isn't out there.
[00:27:05] Michael Mayer, who's very important for them in the blocking game.
[00:27:08] They're double tight end.
[00:27:09] He's still away from the team for personal reasons.
[00:27:12] Max Crosby hasn't practiced yet.
[00:27:14] They still, they think he'll be able to try to give it a go.
[00:27:17] But I mean, not bad ankle that anything to try to slow him down versus our tackles is going
[00:27:24] to be great.
[00:27:24] Um, so it does feel like everything's setting up here.
[00:27:30] This line opened at one and a half.
[00:27:32] It's climbing to two and a half and it's juiced right now.
[00:27:34] Um, minus 120 when we started recording this podcast.
[00:27:38] Um, so kind of what are your thoughts here?
[00:27:41] I mean, the Raiders looked, uh, pretty inept, uh, in victory.
[00:27:46] Kind of like the Broncos, I guess it was two, two bad teams getting a victory there.
[00:27:51] But, um, it feels like this is almost too easy for the Broncos.
[00:27:58] Uh, which is weird to say about a team that we were thinking was going to be hard to find
[00:28:04] a way for us to win games.
[00:28:05] But what are kind of your thoughts coming into this?
[00:28:08] And is this a trap kind of watch out game if you're the Broncos?
[00:28:12] Um, it's definitely a watch out game.
[00:28:16] Uh, particularly I think because Pierce has that like rally the troops kind of feel to him.
[00:28:24] He's such, he had that last year, like when he took the team over.
[00:28:28] And I think potentially he's got a little bit of like, it's just us now.
[00:28:32] Like it's everybody who believes type of vibe to him.
[00:28:36] Uh, and they came in and didn't they beat the Chiefs like twice at home in the last two years?
[00:28:42] Like they, it's nice that the Broncos are at home, but it's also, it's not a guarantee with this, uh, Raiders team.
[00:28:50] So I think that there's a pretty big talent discrepancy.
[00:28:55] And I think that the Denver crowd is going to be pumped up.
[00:29:00] They're wearing those throwback jerseys.
[00:29:02] Like it's going to be good.
[00:29:04] Yeah.
[00:29:04] It's going to be a good vibe.
[00:29:06] And I'm hoping that that is enough to beat a bad team.
[00:29:11] And if it's not, Broncos country is going to be pissed.
[00:29:17] I don't think we'll be.
[00:29:18] Back on Travis Hunter watch, baby.
[00:29:20] I don't think we'll be surprised, right?
[00:29:22] Like I wouldn't be surprised if they dropped this game.
[00:29:24] I mean, listen, everything, if, if I believed in this Broncos team,
[00:29:32] nothing could keep me from the bank getting less than a field goal against Gardner Minshew on the road with no Devontae Adams.
[00:29:42] I haven't even called my bank.
[00:29:45] Like this is still scary for us because the, when you don't have a solid offense,
[00:29:54] the margins are always going to be small.
[00:29:56] It's like the Steelers, like the Steelers can beat anyone with their defense.
[00:30:01] But they're never going to just have those games like teams like the Bills get or teams like the Ravens get where it's like,
[00:30:07] hey, our offense just came when it was clicking today.
[00:30:10] Even the Lions, we saw that with them.
[00:30:12] Like our offense was clicking today.
[00:30:15] Sorry about it.
[00:30:15] Like we're just going to beat your ass today.
[00:30:18] There were a couple of those early games last week.
[00:30:21] Yeah.
[00:30:21] Where you could turn the TV, like I've got the two TVs rolling.
[00:30:24] I've got the four box going.
[00:30:26] I've got really got three TVs going.
[00:30:29] But you can discard a couple of those games early.
[00:30:33] It's like 18-0 with 10 minutes to go in the first quarter.
[00:30:37] Like, wow, what happened?
[00:30:38] Like how did they, these other games I feel like just started.
[00:30:42] Like what did you guys do?
[00:30:45] So I think this game has potential for that.
[00:30:50] Yeah.
[00:30:50] Where the Broncos come out and Bo Nix throws a bomb and we get a defensive touchdown and it's 14-0 with, you know, a couple.
[00:31:00] And that's a big lead against a bad team.
[00:31:04] And the Broncos know that.
[00:31:07] So I don't, I have not placed a wager on the game.
[00:31:14] All three of my best bets for later in the podcast are also going to be about the Broncos game.
[00:31:20] I'm going to stay on theme.
[00:31:24] But I don't, I'm not picking the side on any of those bets.
[00:31:27] Yeah.
[00:31:28] One of them will tell you how I'm leaning.
[00:31:30] Yeah.
[00:31:32] I will say if Crosby plays, our tight ends suck.
[00:31:38] Just leave them in.
[00:31:40] They'll put an extra tackle out there for them.
[00:31:42] The only way this game gets wrecked is if Max Crosby wrecks it.
[00:31:47] Like the Raiders secondary is bad.
[00:31:49] They don't have great linebackers.
[00:31:51] Like they don't have a lot of talent everywhere else.
[00:31:53] Their defense is built around the fact that their defensive line is going to get pressure and mess you up.
[00:31:59] And then they have like some athletes, some opportunistic guys back there.
[00:32:02] But like they were giving up some de-hum long plays in the secondary last week.
[00:32:12] Like they're not good back there.
[00:32:15] And so this is an opportunity I think for Bo Nix to.
[00:32:18] We just don't have any wide receivers, Kyle.
[00:32:21] Yeah.
[00:32:22] There's nobody out there.
[00:32:23] There's nobody out there that can catch a ball outside of Sutton.
[00:32:26] I'm just telling you this is the team that's stupid enough to fall for the play action stuff or lose discipline deep on Mims.
[00:32:34] Like there's going to be a time where whether we complete it or not,
[00:32:38] they are going to show a graphic of one of our wide receivers running five yards behind the safety.
[00:32:43] Do you think Nix can make the ball look like a punt so Mims might catch it?
[00:32:50] My goodness.
[00:32:53] Well, one would hope.
[00:32:57] But yeah, I mean I also think you can run on this Raiders team too.
[00:33:00] Yeah.
[00:33:00] Like that's just –
[00:33:01] It's all of the Broncos offense.
[00:33:04] The whole thing revolves around there being a run attack.
[00:33:08] And they haven't been able to run the ball.
[00:33:11] Yeah.
[00:33:11] At least in the first half of any of these games so far.
[00:33:14] So I also –
[00:33:16] That's why it's been tough sledding.
[00:33:17] I don't want to step on any of your picks if they're there.
[00:33:20] But let me tell you, Minshew hasn't thrown one of his bad picks yet.
[00:33:29] Oh.
[00:33:30] And Minshew is going to throw a bad pick here soon.
[00:33:33] Yeah.
[00:33:33] It's like what we said before the Tampa Bay game about Baker.
[00:33:37] We were like he's feeling it like he's like I've been too good, too good, too good.
[00:33:43] He's going to throw one here.
[00:33:44] Yeah.
[00:33:44] So, you know.
[00:33:47] Yeah.
[00:33:48] I think that they –
[00:33:50] Especially when one half of the field is just – it's a no-go zone.
[00:33:54] Yeah.
[00:33:54] Like when you're looking at the line from the quarterback position, the number one thing I bet they're –
[00:34:01] well, they're probably doing a bunch of things.
[00:34:02] But they are checking where number two is on the field and saying, all right, well, I can't throw there.
[00:34:08] Especially with no Devontae.
[00:34:09] Yeah.
[00:34:09] Like obviously there was the viral clip of Devontae being like not yet, not yet.
[00:34:14] Like, you know, after he caught the game winner against us.
[00:34:16] But like with no Devontae, like –
[00:34:20] Dude, Myers, I hope you had fun last year.
[00:34:23] All right.
[00:34:24] I did want to ask one question there because in the lone kind of impressive win that they had where they came back down 10,
[00:34:32] Brock Bowers just absolutely obliterated the Ravens, who in theory should be equipped because they have Kyle Hamilton,
[00:34:42] but didn't seem equipped for him.
[00:34:45] Would you just use Sertain on him?
[00:34:48] Because it feels to me like there's some moments where you're just going to be like, hey, Brock Bowers is the biggest weapon out here.
[00:34:56] And we don't have great coverage linebackers or great –
[00:35:02] I think if –
[00:35:03] Simmons isn't here anymore, obviously.
[00:35:05] You know, that kind of stuff.
[00:35:06] I think it's one of those things where you sort of wait and the game dictates it.
[00:35:10] You're definitely having the conversation of like, hey, if we have to do this, this is what it's going to look like.
[00:35:15] But I think you let Bowers beat you a couple times because he's not –
[00:35:20] I mean, you don't know for sure what he's capable of on a game-to-game basis.
[00:35:25] For sure.
[00:35:26] He did wreck the Ravens.
[00:35:28] God, he messed them up.
[00:35:30] But if he's doing that, you just put Sertain –
[00:35:32] You say, okay, too.
[00:35:34] Yeah.
[00:35:35] That's your guy.
[00:35:36] Yeah.
[00:35:36] Brock, I hope you had fun.
[00:35:38] Yeah.
[00:35:38] And let Jacoby Myers get loose.
[00:35:41] Like, see if they can do that.
[00:35:42] Well, now, I mean, Riley's –
[00:35:44] He's not a small corner either.
[00:35:46] You know what I mean?
[00:35:46] Like, we don't have Hobbit out there like we did last year.
[00:35:50] Well, they don't have a –
[00:35:50] Where Jacoby was just putting –
[00:35:52] Yeah.
[00:35:52] You know, he's just catching it over his head.
[00:35:54] Like, a big brother bullying a little brother, like, just holding the ball up there.
[00:35:58] Like, it was ridiculous.
[00:35:59] It was really bad.
[00:36:01] I'd kind of forgotten that that was that game.
[00:36:03] Yeah.
[00:36:04] I have nightmares about Jacoby Myers.
[00:36:07] How many yards did he have?
[00:36:09] Like, 250 or something?
[00:36:11] It was stupid against us.
[00:36:13] Yeah.
[00:36:14] But it does feel like there's very limited weapons.
[00:36:18] Obviously, Zemir White, he's banged up as well in this.
[00:36:22] They just had a card that they just brought in.
[00:36:25] He showed up on the injury report today.
[00:36:27] Like, this just feels like a game where, like you said, the fans are pumped up.
[00:36:35] You're wearing the good jerseys.
[00:36:36] Just come out and jump on this team a little bit.
[00:36:39] And it'll probably be an ugly second half, like you said.
[00:36:42] Yeah.
[00:36:42] Like, don't be surprised if it's 14-0 and ends up 21-3.
[00:36:46] Like, this game total is 35 and a half.
[00:36:49] Like, Vegas is not expecting points here.
[00:36:53] No.
[00:36:54] And a lot of that is neither one of these teams has shown any ability to get explosive plays.
[00:36:59] Yeah.
[00:36:59] But, yeah.
[00:37:02] I think it's a definite play from ahead.
[00:37:05] Make Gardner and Jacoby beat you.
[00:37:08] And you should be okay.
[00:37:11] So, I know you're not taking a side for your three best bets.
[00:37:19] But let's get a score prediction out there for the good people.
[00:37:23] I am going to say Broncos 23.
[00:37:31] Whoa.
[00:37:33] Raiders 7.
[00:37:37] Okay.
[00:37:39] I'm going to go 13-7.
[00:37:42] Broncos.
[00:37:43] I may have given them too many field goals.
[00:37:46] I was trying to think.
[00:37:47] I was like, 23?
[00:37:48] Holy shit.
[00:37:49] We must be scoring two defensive touchdowns.
[00:37:53] All right.
[00:37:58] So, Zach Allen, strip Zach, fumble touchdown.
[00:38:00] This is not the Von Miller defense out here, Kyle.
[00:38:04] What is happening?
[00:38:06] God, I miss those guys.
[00:38:08] As much as I think about Jacoby Myers torching us, I think about the no-fly zone just as often.
[00:38:13] And it's much happier, members.
[00:38:18] But, all right.
[00:38:19] Speaking of bets, let's just get into it.
[00:38:23] I can...
[00:38:24] Well, let me go first because I have one that just ties in perfectly to what you were just talking about.
[00:38:30] Okay.
[00:38:30] So, I have an alternate team total here.
[00:38:33] Okay.
[00:38:35] And I took the Las Vegas Raiders under 14.5 points.
[00:38:40] Okay.
[00:38:41] That is plus 136.
[00:38:44] You want to talk about calling the bank, Kyle.
[00:38:47] Oh, 14.5?
[00:38:49] You're telling me the Raiders are going to score 17?
[00:38:52] What are they going to...
[00:38:53] How are they going to get there?
[00:38:54] I wish I hadn't seen some of these Bo Nix interceptions.
[00:38:58] Yeah.
[00:38:58] That's the only way.
[00:38:59] That's the only reason I think it's plus money and that it can be done.
[00:39:06] But, I am going to go in a similar way a little bit more plus.
[00:39:17] I really like the Broncos here.
[00:39:19] I think this is the...
[00:39:22] This is the like...
[00:39:23] Oh, okay.
[00:39:24] The Raiders are a really, really bad team.
[00:39:26] That Baltimore game was just BS.
[00:39:28] Those games happen all the time.
[00:39:31] I forget who it was who beat the Colts when the Colts were supposed to be good with Phillip Rivers week one.
[00:39:38] And then they went 1-15.
[00:39:41] Sometimes just a bad team.
[00:39:43] It happens to it.
[00:39:44] They get a win.
[00:39:45] So, I'm taking alternate spread.
[00:39:48] I will tease the...
[00:39:49] I will take the Broncos up to minus 6.5.
[00:39:53] And that will get me to plus 164.
[00:39:57] If you're a real man, you can take a minus 9.5.
[00:40:00] But I don't disagree.
[00:40:02] I want it under a touchdown because of our offensive struggles that we've detailed here.
[00:40:08] But I think this is a Broncos touchdown win here.
[00:40:11] Also, it should go...
[00:40:13] So, we meant to touch on this earlier.
[00:40:15] But every week I've picked the Broncos.
[00:40:18] They've lost.
[00:40:18] And every week I've picked against the Broncos.
[00:40:20] They have won.
[00:40:21] So, this is the litmus test for this.
[00:40:23] If the Broncos lose this game, I will never pick the Broncos to win a game the rest of the season.
[00:40:28] That is my promise to the podcast.
[00:40:31] I'll still give honest analysis so you can tell when I would pick the Broncos.
[00:40:36] But I will do my part as a fan if they lose this game.
[00:40:40] But I think they're alright here.
[00:40:42] The kids are alright.
[00:40:45] Yeah.
[00:40:46] I mean, I don't disagree with you.
[00:40:48] You know I'm...
[00:40:50] I like the under a touchdown.
[00:40:54] But if you had some real cojones, nine and a half is just sitting right there for you.
[00:41:00] I am going to go back to the well here.
[00:41:04] It's probably been my favorite bet of the Broncos season.
[00:41:08] And I'm going to take Bo Nix to have over longest rush ten and a half yards.
[00:41:14] It's...
[00:41:15] He ran for ten tantalizing yards last week, which was a devastating loss for me.
[00:41:22] But he loves to scramble.
[00:41:25] And, you know, if Crosby is out there, he might have to.
[00:41:33] And it's just a great...
[00:41:34] Like, we're going to be in third down and long.
[00:41:37] You know we are.
[00:41:38] So, I just think it's...
[00:41:40] To get to the sticks.
[00:41:41] Yes, exactly.
[00:41:41] And he will take a hit.
[00:41:43] He'll do some dumb shit to get there.
[00:41:44] So, I...
[00:41:46] He's fired up.
[00:41:47] He's putting the ball out in front.
[00:41:48] Yeah, yeah.
[00:41:48] He's doing stuff.
[00:41:50] He's doing a lot out there.
[00:41:53] So, it is minus 115.
[00:41:57] Yeah, I like it.
[00:41:57] You're paying a little bit of juice, but...
[00:41:59] I think it's fine.
[00:42:00] Yeah.
[00:42:00] Also, it bears repeating that this Raiders team is kind of stupid on defense.
[00:42:08] So, there's a good chance that someone will go to a wrong spot and just leave a wide open gap or something.
[00:42:15] I've watched some of the game tonight, the Bucs-Atlanta game on the, like, all 22 version on next gen.
[00:42:24] I was enjoying that.
[00:42:25] And...
[00:42:26] Oh, I was really enjoying it, too.
[00:42:28] And there was a scramble by Baker that was just, like, 25 yards down.
[00:42:34] And he was...
[00:42:34] It was like the Madden play that you used to be able to run with Michael Vick, where you just ran everybody through the other side of the field and just...
[00:42:41] Rolled out.
[00:42:42] ...torched everybody on the other side.
[00:42:44] But it was, like, exactly that.
[00:42:46] And I could just see something like that opening up for next year.
[00:42:50] Yeah, yeah.
[00:42:50] They do do a lot of rollouts with him, a lot of stuff like that, where I think there's run options.
[00:42:55] You know, they want to give him the opportunity.
[00:42:57] I don't hate it at all.
[00:42:59] My next one, really my last two.
[00:43:03] They're ugly, but the time has come, Ryan, for me to fade Patrick Mahomes.
[00:43:13] As I do every year.
[00:43:17] Unsuccessfully.
[00:43:18] Yeah, I was going to say.
[00:43:19] This might be the...
[00:43:20] Listeners should know.
[00:43:22] It's usually unsuccessfully.
[00:43:25] This Chiefs team sucks.
[00:43:27] Like, they're not good.
[00:43:30] They could be winless right now, and they just lost their only wide receiver who's consistent at all.
[00:43:36] They still are relying on a guy that got off waivers in Kareem Hunt at running back.
[00:43:45] I just...
[00:43:47] I think anything over a field goal against an NFL team not named, like, the Titans right now.
[00:43:56] Eh, I don't know.
[00:43:58] I think I'd take the Red Rocket for this.
[00:44:00] Like, they can't score.
[00:44:04] Like, they're getting five and a half.
[00:44:05] Thanks for saying that.
[00:44:07] Yeah.
[00:44:07] That means a lot considering I started Andy Dalton.
[00:44:09] Yeah, I love that.
[00:44:11] I love that, dude.
[00:44:12] Hey, you know what?
[00:44:13] I think he could have even more points, right?
[00:44:15] Thanks.
[00:44:16] I'm counting on it.
[00:44:18] Yeah.
[00:44:18] Throw for a 500 piece, Andy hit...
[00:44:21] Yeah.
[00:44:22] And four touchdowns.
[00:44:24] But no picks.
[00:44:28] Yeah, I just think that five and a half for this Chiefs team is too much.
[00:44:33] So, I'm going to take the Saints.
[00:44:35] The Saints, obviously, they lost a heartbreaker.
[00:44:37] I think their defense...
[00:44:38] The Saints' defense is unreal good.
[00:44:40] I think the Saints are kind of good.
[00:44:42] Yeah.
[00:44:42] And I think that...
[00:44:44] This is probably one where if you're betting this in real life, you should put some on the money line for the Saints.
[00:44:49] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:44:50] I mean, it falls in that zone of the five and a half, six and a half.
[00:44:55] And let me double check here.
[00:44:58] It is minus 105 for plus five and a half.
[00:45:03] And money line, if you want to sprinkle it, plus 205.
[00:45:08] So, yeah.
[00:45:10] But, yeah.
[00:45:11] I think the Chiefs shouldn't be favored by this much versus any team that has won a game in the NFL.
[00:45:16] They don't have any skill position outside of Kelsey.
[00:45:18] No.
[00:45:19] So, I think that's a great pick.
[00:45:22] Are the Chiefs at home?
[00:45:23] They're at home.
[00:45:24] Yeah.
[00:45:24] And it's Monday night.
[00:45:26] Yeah.
[00:45:26] That's why it's five and a half.
[00:45:28] But I agree with you.
[00:45:29] I actually...
[00:45:30] I think there's a real money line play there.
[00:45:32] Yeah.
[00:45:35] And they can't let that get to six, right?
[00:45:38] Because then you could tease it.
[00:45:41] Yeah.
[00:45:42] If that gets into the teaser zone...
[00:45:43] I think this is going to be a pro-Joe game.
[00:45:45] Yeah.
[00:45:46] Yeah.
[00:45:46] There's going to be a lot of people trying to get healthy from the weekend on Chiefs money line,
[00:45:52] parlays, Chiefs teasers.
[00:45:54] Oh, I'll just throw the Chiefs in.
[00:45:55] And pros are going to be sitting here going,
[00:45:57] why on earth would we give this team that we just watched do what they've done versus like the Falcons?
[00:46:06] It might be good, by the way.
[00:46:09] I like it.
[00:46:10] I think that's a good play.
[00:46:11] Yeah.
[00:46:12] You hinted at my next and last play.
[00:46:17] But I'm going to take Gardner Minshew to throw a pick here.
[00:46:20] It's beautiful.
[00:46:21] It's minus 135.
[00:46:23] You're paying juice, but it is well worth it.
[00:46:26] But I think you could probably parlay these two quarterbacks together to each throw a pick.
[00:46:34] They're both about the same price.
[00:46:36] The Knicks is like minus 130.
[00:46:41] But yeah, everything we've already talked about with this team.
[00:46:44] I think all signs are pointed in the wrong direction.
[00:46:48] I could honestly see this, like it being one of those really stupid interceptions where it like bounces off somebody's face mask and like the classic Dan's hit him in the wrong spot.
[00:46:58] I just like wasn't like hits the guy in the side of the helmet like a middle schooler.
[00:47:04] So yeah, I could see something stupid happening here.
[00:47:08] I also think Gardner is like insanely accurate and insanely good.
[00:47:14] If you don't pressure him and you let him make his like first or second read, I think once it gets beyond that or if Zach Allen is barreling down upon him, we saw Kirk Cousins for his lone interception that looked like it was going to lose them the game.
[00:47:32] It was just pressure up the middle.
[00:47:34] And so he was like, ah, crap, and threw it right to a linebacker.
[00:47:38] And I think with this too high, if you can get pressure up the middle, these quarterbacks can't see well.
[00:47:45] They can't and there's a lot of like panic.
[00:47:48] And so I love a Gardner-Mitchell pick.
[00:47:51] My last one, we're staying ugly here.
[00:47:55] We're taking the team that blew it last week versus 90-year-old Joe Flacco.
[00:48:04] We're taking the Pittsburgh Steelers.
[00:48:07] Minus one and a half at home versus the Cowboys.
[00:48:10] No Lawrence.
[00:48:11] Minus one and a half.
[00:48:12] No Lawrence, no Michael Parsons.
[00:48:14] Whoa.
[00:48:16] This Cowboys defense is really bad.
[00:48:19] Like that Thursday night game, they made Daniel Jones look pretty good.
[00:48:24] And they couldn't stop anything.
[00:48:28] And I just think that Tomlin's really good in these spots.
[00:48:35] Tomlin less than two points.
[00:48:37] All this kind of stuff.
[00:48:40] It's prime time Sunday night.
[00:48:42] It's going to be a crazy crowd.
[00:48:44] I just think the Steelers are the player.
[00:48:46] And I think the Cowboys are really banged up.
[00:48:48] And this is a really bad time for them to have to play a really good defense.
[00:48:54] Who's not going to let CeeDee Lamb cook?
[00:48:57] The Giants couldn't guard him.
[00:49:00] You're laying two and a half with Justin Fields, though.
[00:49:03] I'm not laying two and a half.
[00:49:04] It's one and a half.
[00:49:05] One and a half.
[00:49:06] Whatever.
[00:49:09] I feel pretty good about it.
[00:49:12] That one is minus 115.
[00:49:15] It's climbing, baby.
[00:49:17] Yeah.
[00:49:18] That is ugly.
[00:49:19] You advertised it correctly.
[00:49:21] Your last two are just ugly.
[00:49:23] Yeah.
[00:49:24] And I think...
[00:49:25] And probably correct.
[00:49:26] I mean, often the ugliest thing is the right thing.
[00:49:29] It's a stock market, right?
[00:49:31] Everyone watched this team lose to Joe Flacco after they just got hyped up all with their 3-0 start.
[00:49:38] The Cowboys are a pretty public team.
[00:49:41] This is where you take Mike Tomlin.
[00:49:44] Yeah.
[00:49:45] I mean, this Cowboys team...
[00:49:47] I agree with you that the Cowboys team is bad.
[00:49:50] And you're right.
[00:49:52] You just have to swallow the pill sometimes that when two bad teams play each other, the worst team will often get their ass kicked.
[00:49:59] So, you're probably right.
[00:50:01] But I might find a prop way to attack that same sort of line of thinking as opposed to laying the...
[00:50:10] That's the thing with the Steelers.
[00:50:11] They're so hard to figure out because their offense consists of just banging their head against the wall and then 50-yard bombs.
[00:50:20] But you never know who they're going to be, too.
[00:50:21] Yeah.
[00:50:22] Like...
[00:50:22] Longest completion.
[00:50:24] Yeah.
[00:50:25] ...wise.
[00:50:26] You know?
[00:50:27] Yeah.
[00:50:27] I was also just thinking about betting against the Dallas offense.
[00:50:31] Like, that's really, I think, how you make money.
[00:50:34] Yeah.
[00:50:34] Unders are pretty good.
[00:50:35] Unders on that Dallas.
[00:50:36] And it's 43 and a half.
[00:50:37] So, it's not, you know, Dallas is...
[00:50:39] Well, and just like, okay, what is CeeDee Lamb's over-under?
[00:50:43] Yeah.
[00:50:44] Like, that's probably the most public number total or public total in terms of a player prop.
[00:50:50] So, there's...
[00:50:52] Yeah.
[00:50:53] I agree with the fundamentals.
[00:50:55] Yeah.
[00:50:55] So, look at that.
[00:50:58] We're going to go 6-0.
[00:50:59] I feel like there's a lot of agreement there.
[00:51:00] Look at us.
[00:51:00] We're going to go 6-0, which is just a brilliant thing.
[00:51:03] Yeah.
[00:51:04] I'm happy to see it.
[00:51:06] Anything else you wanted to get off your chest before we get out of here?
[00:51:12] Have you watched any baseball?
[00:51:14] No, I've watched not a second of postseason baseball.
[00:51:18] Yeah.
[00:51:19] I...
[00:51:20] A lot of day games here early on.
[00:51:23] And I am with the schools.
[00:51:27] So, I can't quite get there for that.
[00:51:32] I'm sure I'll get sucked in here.
[00:51:34] But I...
[00:51:34] Dan's been texting.
[00:51:35] It's been...
[00:51:36] It sounds like it's been really good.
[00:51:37] I know there was another come from behind three-run blast from the Mets today.
[00:51:42] Like...
[00:51:42] I watched a little bit of that game.
[00:51:43] I missed the actual home run.
[00:51:46] Or the Pete Alonso home run.
[00:51:48] But...
[00:51:48] Yeah.
[00:51:49] I don't know.
[00:51:50] It's starting to heat up.
[00:51:53] Like, October feels like the month where the sports really start to come back into full swing.
[00:52:00] I'm going to miss golf.
[00:52:02] I don't know if you watched any of the...
[00:52:04] I'm sure you didn't.
[00:52:06] Ryan, I can barely watch NFL football games with one toddler.
[00:52:14] It's getting dicey out here.
[00:52:17] Yeah.
[00:52:18] Well...
[00:52:19] It was dicey for me, too.
[00:52:23] I got back from late brunch and really had to rush to get the TV set up.
[00:52:31] Stressful.
[00:52:32] In a way that was...
[00:52:33] Yeah.
[00:52:35] ...appropriate for the viewing experience I was hoping to get.
[00:52:38] Yeah.
[00:52:38] So, I understand that.
[00:52:40] It's...
[00:52:40] We all have our struggles.
[00:52:42] Yeah.
[00:52:42] You have some late-running brunches.
[00:52:44] I have a three-year-old terrorist that runs around for him.
[00:52:48] We all have our cross to bear.
[00:52:50] Yeah.
[00:52:50] You know?
[00:52:52] And that's...
[00:52:53] What's important is that we're in it together.
[00:52:55] Yeah.
[00:52:56] And if you want to be in it with us, then subscribe and like and five stars, please, on the podcast.
[00:53:02] We would appreciate that.
[00:53:04] We're getting into Nuggets season.
[00:53:06] Like you said, heart of the season.
[00:53:07] I think it's going to be a fun time to be with the podcast.
[00:53:10] It's going to be a fun season with the Avs, with the Nuggets, with all that coming up.
[00:53:14] How many games do you think...
[00:53:16] For those of you who don't know, we have season tickets.
[00:53:18] How many games do you think you're going to make it to this year?
[00:53:22] That is very up in the air.
[00:53:25] Fifteen.
[00:53:27] I think it's a good over-under number to set.
[00:53:30] I think that's wise.
[00:53:32] Yeah.
[00:53:34] But, well, time will tell.
[00:53:39] Yeah.
[00:53:41] But...
[00:53:42] What do you think we should set my over-under at?
[00:53:45] Ten.
[00:53:46] It's going to be lower than last year.
[00:53:48] Ten.
[00:53:50] I'm over ten.
[00:53:51] No, I don't.
[00:53:53] Ten in the first month?
[00:53:55] Nah, nah, nah.
[00:53:57] I mean, we just see where life takes you.
[00:54:01] You don't know how these brunches are going to work out for you.
[00:54:03] We don't know.
[00:54:04] We could go right into seven o'clock.
[00:54:06] Who are we to say?
[00:54:10] Yeah.
[00:54:10] I'm not as close, so it is going to be a little bit trickier.
[00:54:13] Yeah.
[00:54:14] It's not literally a walk, so...
[00:54:17] Yeah.
[00:54:18] It could be.
[00:54:19] It's a longer walk, though.
[00:54:22] It would be an insane walk.
[00:54:25] All right.
[00:54:26] For real this time, we're going to wrap up the podcast.
[00:54:30] One more thing.
[00:54:31] Thanks to our super producer, Tan the Man.
[00:54:33] And thanks to Russell Westbrook.
[00:54:36] And thanks to Nikola Jokic.
[00:54:38] And thanks to Pat Sertain.
[00:54:42] And thanks to Corlin Sutton.
[00:54:44] And thanks to Zach Allen.
[00:54:46] Thanks to Eduardo Nahara.
[00:54:50] And Ryan Bowen.
[00:54:52] We'll talk to you next week.
[00:54:55] Bye.
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