The Brothers talk about the current state and issues with modern American basketball development. Will the Broncos move up in the draft? Should they? Finally, they have a nit to pick about a certain major podcast All Defense draft.
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[00:00:00] We are here and it is a draft episode here. We're talking mock draft for the Denver Broncos.
[00:00:06] We're talking about why all the American players suck in the draft in basketball.
[00:00:11] We're talking about why the Nuggets players did not get drafted to all defensive teams on many national podcasts.
[00:00:19] All that and more booing coming up next.
[00:00:25] Damn, play that funky.
[00:00:26] Cheers.
[00:00:32] Alright, coming to you on a chilly Tuesday night here in the Denver.
[00:00:36] It is the Blucifer Brothers. I am Kyle Pond.
[00:00:38] Join us always by my brother Ryan Pond.
[00:00:41] We are here in Colorado home of the first place.
[00:00:47] Denver Nuggets of the almost sweet 16 Colorado Buffaloes of the nearly round of 32 CSU.
[00:00:56] And the sweet 16 CSU women along with the in the hunt for the one Colorado Avalanche out there as well.
[00:01:08] So it's a good day to be a Colorado sports fan. Ryan, how are you doing after this crazy weekend? March madness?
[00:01:16] All that could jazz. How are you doing buddy?
[00:01:19] I'm feeling rejuvenated.
[00:01:21] Yeah, how do a nice trip out west saw some sunshine at a heroin drive on I 70 during a blizzard to get back to Colorado before work on Monday morning and yeah, but we you never feel more alive than when you have a near death experience on I 70.
[00:01:44] I don't know anything about near death experiences on I 70, but I have seen my child almost fall off a counter and I feel like that's about the same.
[00:02:00] Body is getting to a level of coordination confidence that does not match his actual coordination.
[00:02:06] So he is attempting wild things on a near daily basis, Ryan and so that's really the blood pressure inducing thing in my house you have the hairpin turns of I 70 blind.
[00:02:19] I just have body being like daddy jump and then just jump off of things no that's that's caches jeans right there.
[00:02:29] Yeah, I pull in behavior no joke on the earthbound creatures that's for sure.
[00:02:35] I went to the grand canyon and looked at the so fee a couple times while we were there it's like I don't even like being 15 feet away from that.
[00:02:48] I was going to say I hope you kept a reasonable distance for the adrient.
[00:02:53] There was no way I mean there are some pictures where it looks like I'm close to the edge but let me tell you it is very safe distance.
[00:03:03] And honestly that's good.
[00:03:06] I gave Sophia a couple of school dicks I said hey, you be careful of it.
[00:03:11] Daddy while she's 45 feet from the ledger but I'm not.
[00:03:16] You could never be too close honestly that's that's a true caring partner right there.
[00:03:23] And that's great work by you.
[00:03:25] I do the same thing to Kesha when she's on the second floor at malls.
[00:03:30] Oh, it's that we both just out here looking for it.
[00:03:34] Yeah, we're both just looking out for our partners.
[00:03:37] What a what a champion brother ship we have.
[00:03:40] It's a thing so but somebody's got to know it.
[00:03:43] Yeah, we are as everyone knows huge nuggets fans huge basketball fans and so I wanted to get through in a timely manner.
[00:03:55] I watched an inordinate amount of March madness.
[00:03:59] I gambled I made money I came I saw a conquered.
[00:04:05] But there is no better display Ryan.
[00:04:12] And I thought this could be an interesting conversation because silver has come out talking about like hey these players overseas come in more ready to play like all of our coaches are not happy with our development program and it's so apparent in college.
[00:04:31] Like these are not thinking offices or anything resembling this like I'll give you a few examples.
[00:04:43] So one I thrilling see you victory in the first round right but before the game is tied they are up three.
[00:04:55] Why on earth when there is the one player for Florida who has been unreal hot why would you not be picking him up at mid court and go oh if he goes by and shoots a two we'll just keep making free throws it's fine or you could
[00:05:10] do what you did which is go under the screen and allow him to walk into a three like on some level see you as not a dumb team.
[00:05:24] And there's a lot of like senior guys and you know this is not a like super freshman team.
[00:05:29] And so it's not it's like really an indictment of college basketball and then also I was pretty heavily invested.
[00:05:38] Well I just want to give one more example that I think relates to the nuggets so homes for Dayton I was pretty invested in Dayton in the first round and they did a thrilling 24 to four run after being down 17 points with about seven minutes
[00:05:54] to come back and win but homes is going to be an NBA player he's unreal us of your gambling weekend that sounds like it sounds like you got a really I mean not only a winning weekend but also a thrilling winning weekend is really more than you can ask for from that sort of situation.
[00:06:11] Let's just say grand can you was very kind to us.
[00:06:15] I was in dance all the states I was in two states that did not allow gambling so I did not gamble and dive on these games it's an outreach but
[00:06:26] so this day game they have an NBA prospective forward and Nevada is who they're playing and they just had to double it every time otherwise he was just going to go in there and score.
[00:06:37] But these guys would be so impatient in the post and it strikes out to me because obviously I've seen teams really try to deny a post entry to you.
[00:06:46] And I'm like you have six extra seconds on the shot clock and the nuggets will stand there for five seconds and be like now we're getting this into the post like this is fine this is going to the post but these guys they like look for a second and they're like hey I suck at basketball let's swing them all away from the rest of from our only good player and miss match on.
[00:07:06] This team like there's just no thinking no smart offenses no good innovation.
[00:07:12] I came away from this opening weekend Ryan feeling worse about the American development system than I have in like a really long time and you and I have been strong proponents of probesk ball and not as much so for me to even like be shocked by the quality of play.
[00:07:34] Was something I wasn't surprised why wasn't ready for ahead in the weekend but I'm curious to see kind of what you think is going on is it transfer portal is it a you is it you know kind of get your take on what this system is because there's no world in which this is good.
[00:07:57] No it's not sustainable and the real problem here is that the NCAA is slowly just becoming defunct I mean I'm going to go on a little bit of attention here and then I really want to go back to your point because I think there are a couple interesting things that we can talk about the development system but the NCAA like this is the cash cow for the true NCAA system like when you're talking about the NCAA the organization and not necessarily like.
[00:08:26] What everybody says when they say NCAA when a football championship trophy is raised that is not an NCAA trophy. That is the FCS like that is not NCAA money that's not even an NCAA championship the March madness is now both on the men's and the women's side they finally realized after being literally dragged to that realization by the women in college basketball so good for them.
[00:08:55] But this this is like that it's a true existential crisis for the NCAA and they have to treat it as such and like when silver is talking about this it's not that it just goes down to the.
[00:09:13] The NBA teams like I don't even blame these college coaches because you're getting these kids for maybe a year if they're good like you're maybe getting them and it's not even a year it's like the NCAA or it's like college football where these guys leave during the in the middle of the semester they're not worried about finishing their classes they're going to train for the draft like that is what they're there to do so these coaches are given their one hand tied back in terms of development then you can.
[00:09:43] And I don't know if you can't tell a player now because if they've signed this big NIL the other that's like a person in the NBA locker room looking at the guy who is making 30 million dollars on the bench and being like why are you here.
[00:09:56] Like if you're paying them if you're putting these and you know funds towards the towards those players you have to give them differential treatment and that's the name of the game right now in the NCAA.
[00:10:11] These coaches are being handed a product in terms of the player right like we're just talking about them as an on the court product their hand at a product that is underdeveloped there they've been the best player on their team their entire career and I'm not saying anything that I know for real like I see it anecdotally but I've also listen to a ton of NBA players talk about this like it is it is out there in the ether right now and I think everybody is sort of.
[00:10:41] Coming to this realization at the same time that this product is actually not very good and is flawed and I think it's it's hard to for me to blame a college coach in that situation.
[00:10:55] So it's really yeah I think it's really down to those AAU coaches who are because if you're not the better on your AAU well and if you're not the best player on your AAU team you probably transfer to a player to a team that either A
[00:11:11] you could be the best player or B had a player so dynamic or players so dynamic that you are going to win a ton of games and get noticed because that is what that that is what the those whole tournaments are built around trust me I've seen the invoices like they're incredibly expensive for coaches to get the booklets for their incredibly expensive to gain that access to the film all of those things are it's an ecosystem that is built to identify and
[00:11:41] and not develop that talent you're only identifying you're just you're just looking at the court and saying that guys could have basketball and it doesn't really matter if he has any of those requisite skills that we're talking about those European players coming with.
[00:11:55] Okay so I'm interested here because I think I agree with you about who is to blame I think we have NCAA coaches I think we have AAU system as a whole also so does AAU coaches are criminal like I had a coach.
[00:12:11] Literally AAU and I literally learned nothing from that guy he was a moron and you know he was just along for the ride and you know you practice maybe once a week and then you go to these tournaments and use the role of ball out there and you can't run offense because you practice maybe I maybe had practiced twice with everybody before I went to these tournaments
[00:12:39] so it's a trash ego. Dr. I was busted by OJ male. Oh I never played OJ male it's worse than that do you remember Taylor King right he played at Duke for a year and they transfer to Villanova but he was like pretty hyped up at Duke he's a big white guy and he could shoot the hell out of the ball six eight so before I begin this story
[00:13:03] I don't want people to get hyped up and think that I played Taylor King I did not however I did lose by 50 points to a team that then Taylor Kings team beat by 60 points in the following game
[00:13:17] and these guys were doing windmills in warm ups like I was just like I'm just not getting dunked on I was like I'm gonna wrap somebody up and bring them back down the gravity if they go up and try to windmill on me.
[00:13:29] Like that was all I was worried about winning was not part of the equation but so I grew through the AU is not a good system and these things are becoming more and more predatory in terms of they're getting more and more into the youth system at a younger and younger age
[00:13:47] and becoming the norm at a younger and younger age very similar to so many youth sports where they're selling the parents on a dream of your kid is super special and they're so good.
[00:13:57] And so for yes their job is to identify talent but also their job is to print money and by getting Joe Shmo idiots to coach them that are just happy to be associated
[00:14:11] and then getting these parents to pay an absorbent fee to enter the tournament and to travel and all that kind of stuff.
[00:14:21] Like there's no reason that that's the way it should be but I tend to throw a little more of the blame pie and maybe it's because I just watched these games
[00:14:35] but these college coaches suck right they are absolute butt cheeks like coach Cal he's had I don't care if you've had it wouldn't take you or I nine months Ryan to tell our guys hey when we're on offense let's face our basket all the time and try to be within shooting range for as long of an amount of time as you can.
[00:14:59] Like I can't tell you how many offenses Ryan I looked at the shot clock I go oh there's 10 seconds they haven't faced their own basket.
[00:15:09] Like they're just doing three man weave away from the basket and not running anything intelligent so like yes I agree and I think regulating the youth system while important is a pretty hard to do.
[00:15:28] Pretty hard thing now that we've let it get so big and sprawling whereas these college coaches can we just not have total morons in charge of these things like well some of these guys Ryan they don't have any idea what they're doing.
[00:15:47] I'm not I don't disagree with you I mean I you know I 100% agree with you I've been calling out that five man weave at the top and they keep it along it's horrible.
[00:15:57] They take two dribbles and then hand the ball to somebody else at 30 feet from the basket like what the fuck you didn't set the screen like there was no action there.
[00:16:08] And so it's just it is incredibly frustrating to watch however it's a lot like getting mad at like oh we have all these terrible presidents when like the way that we select a president is not really conducive
[00:16:25] to actually being able to do the job like these college coaches are not selected for their basketball knowledge.
[00:16:32] They're marketers like these people are their recruiters they're marketing to the kids and they're marketing to the school and it is it is not based on any basketball merit at all which is much different obviously than the NBA coaches and sometimes you get a coach who's good at both
[00:16:52] and then they have wild success like or they surround themselves with if you're a good recruiter they surround themselves with people that know basketball.
[00:17:02] That's the part that makes me mad is that these guys hire you know their cow I'm sure that bench is full of his friends
[00:17:11] and people that he's known for a long time and it's like will you hire like a 27 year old smart kid like find the next Eric's Bolstra and hire that guy like I'm
[00:17:23] I mean find some guy that has to go to brain cells and and rub them together find him and he'll be an improvement over whatever Kentucky was running.
[00:17:34] I was looking at KU when they were blowing the game to Samford and like the first half hey they can't guard Abrams at the post.
[00:17:44] That's like when the heat could not guard Aaron Gordon in the post because they were trying to cover up other things.
[00:17:50] Yo getcha in the next just went to that the whole first quarter they're like we're just gonna get you stuck and we're gonna go there every time
[00:17:57] and our players are smart enough to know that.
[00:18:00] These other things college kids are it's such dumb basketball and it's not just it used to be like okay Cal is a moron of a coach
[00:18:11] but we can watch some pretty beautiful mid major basketball because these guys know anymore even the mid majors are trash and just running down.
[00:18:21] Let's transfer for the stuff to like that that's talent being on the transfer portal getting a full ride them promising them like hey you're gonna be able to run our offense
[00:18:31] and then I'm getting there and being like oh you can't actually run an offense because nobody's ever taught you to do that.
[00:18:37] Like some of this stuff I think is truly fundamental like what you're talking about is the coaches fault right like if you're a good enough coach
[00:18:45] you should be able to install an offense in for a division one program in it off season like that should not be that difficult.
[00:18:54] If you're doing your job well but the problem is that now they have to be that that's that time is spent recruiting they're not at practice.
[00:19:03] Like they're gone because they have to be at all these freaking a a you turn of it's like it is such a crazy cycle that we're in and it's really bad for development obviously like
[00:19:15] but everybody is incentivized to fix the problems that we're talking about but it'll never happen because there's two stupid to figure it out they're too inept like they won't get out of their own way.
[00:19:26] Yeah, it's a really bad thing and I was talking about as well like just the emphasis on the amount of games I was like and I was talking about a hypothetical world in which
[00:19:41] Cody enjoys basketball to not worry people I will not force him to play basketball or any of that's already forcing him.
[00:19:48] He's just a kid he's lifting weights he's jumping he's talking about jumping off the things he was having him do box jumps.
[00:19:55] Yeah, he is he is going to mess up the two year olds.
[00:19:59] No but like in a hypothetical world I'm like dude I think I would just keep him out of the AU circuit and I would be like
[00:20:10] dude we're just going to have a team that you play with and we'll do local tournaments and we're going to practice a bunch
[00:20:19] and like we're just going to work on skills we're going to learn a lot of things well of scrimmages well of all these kind of things
[00:20:25] but we're not going to play all these stupid games with no preparation and with you guys not practicing what to look for
[00:20:36] like what it makes me think of which is weird because I am by no means a math kid nor have I ever been but it's like
[00:20:43] it's the difference between knowing a math concept and just memorizing your times tables
[00:20:52] like the kid who knows why three times three equals nine is much better off than the kid who just memorized three times
[00:21:00] three times three equals nine they're both going to get the answer right in first grade but going forward
[00:21:06] the other kid is going to have an easier time transmitting the concepts and all that stuff
[00:21:12] US basketball players know that scoring is good and then not letting the other team score is bad
[00:21:19] they don't understand how though they're just like well I'm more athletic and you're like well but what about when you're not
[00:21:26] well but I am like it's so it's so bad to like really you want to have this kind of idea of
[00:21:37] here's how we can try to win and here's what that looks like and I don't think it's coincident that more and more
[00:21:44] foreign players are being superstars but also stepping into superstar role player roles because they can think the game
[00:21:51] and go hey this is what this team needs this is what they're getting me for I'm going to do that
[00:21:57] and you don't have to hold their hand and be like hey dude you jump really high we've like you to jump
[00:22:04] near the rim and get the dunks like you don't have to do that for them they're like I understand
[00:22:10] let's wrap this up with a I think this is an interesting I just saw something I think it's like
[00:22:19] what seven months until until the summer Olympics so let's wrap this up by at like do you think
[00:22:29] that the team USA is going to win gold in Paris in 2024 yeah I don't need it I don't know I
[00:22:35] don't know who I would bet on right now but it's I don't think it's going to be the US
[00:22:39] it's just it's indicative that we have undeniably the most talent like we will have the most
[00:22:47] talented team in that tournament it's not going to be close and some of those a you games it's clear
[00:22:52] that there's more talent on the floor like they're talent on the floor in some of those a you games is
[00:22:58] insane it's a sign how good those people are but they don't learn to play together
[00:23:03] and so they're not like it takes a special type of person to be able to figure that out
[00:23:10] later yeah and when you see it happen right but it's it takes a long time in the league to get
[00:23:17] that which is why seeing people succeed early in the league is so impressive yeah
[00:23:24] yeah and honestly it's only superstars that do that like yeah really it's only superstars
[00:23:32] that come in and look amazing in their rookie year yeah now it's which is the only role to your
[00:23:39] white that they've known so it makes sense the area of that or you don't know how to play a role
[00:23:44] and don't know how to fit in I guess and I guess the last thing I would say in terms of
[00:23:49] like potential hope for March madness because I do think we both I mean we both love it right
[00:23:55] like yeah it's basketball at its purest form there's a ton of it like the tournament is such a fun
[00:24:01] environment we've gone to games before they're super fun to go to but I think
[00:24:06] the only hope here is that NIL does change this a little bit I think that is gonna flatten out
[00:24:13] but some of these guys are going to be able to make real money by staying in the NBA
[00:24:20] and it's not gonna be the superstars like they're still gonna be one and done but those
[00:24:24] role guys that we're talking about I do think that there's potential that this NIL money
[00:24:30] comes big enough where they're not giving up that much by staying and for going the rookie minimum
[00:24:39] like potentially they could actually make more staying in school so I think that is the hope
[00:24:46] and I don't think it's gonna happen but if you're an optimist that's what you're looking at
[00:24:52] and hoping is gonna be the savior.
[00:24:56] Alright let's go from that from draft to draft let's go to the mock draft here
[00:25:03] the mock drafts are starting to solidify Sean Payton is once again for a guy who talked
[00:25:10] a bunch of stuff to the jets about having all their guys on video this man has not turned down
[00:25:17] an interview all off season if he's out there he is in front of the camera so he's been
[00:25:23] giving a lot of interviews he talks about the Broncos had a private workout with J.J.
[00:25:29] and you know he was really selling that he's selling the processing speed all that kind of jazz
[00:25:36] so right now Ryan I just wanted to get your take right now I'm using NFL mock draft database
[00:25:47] which just combines all the mock drafts out there and the most common one without a trade
[00:25:55] is Bonyx from Oregon 23 obviously we saw him mess up CU but not really he just handed it
[00:26:06] to the running backs and they ran for 30 yards of carry what I guess are your Bonyx takes
[00:26:14] and then the other report that's been out there is that the fourth pick has a huge for sale sign on it
[00:26:25] the idea being that you know there's going to be you can guarantee yourself McCarthy Nix or maybe Daniels
[00:26:38] if someone has a stroke which the commanders are involved so that's always possible
[00:26:46] I guess like what do you think about I know it was leaked a lot that the Broncos were willing to be aggressive
[00:26:53] willing to move does Bonyx excite you enough to say sit at 12 young man or are you like
[00:27:03] who would have to be available I guess at four for you to think that that's worth sacrificing
[00:27:09] will probably be a first round pick next year you know it'd be a steep race nobody
[00:27:14] I mean Marvin Harrison Jr. is supposedly like a generational one see for
[00:27:19] but we don't have anybody to throw them the ball so that seems a little
[00:27:23] wasteful putting a cart before the horse so I
[00:27:27] I don't know man like none of these quarterbacks excite me as much as Justin Fields would have
[00:27:33] and we could have gotten him for like a third round or so like I
[00:27:38] I just don't I don't know enough and honestly nobody does like these guys
[00:27:46] hit it like a 40% rate so like we're throwing darts right like this is I
[00:27:55] Bonyx is fine can I tell you why I don't like Bonyx and why I would genuinely be
[00:28:01] bombed yeah this man ran from the SEC like Bonyx was never like oh he's really
[00:28:09] really cookin when he was at Auburn and he was surrounded by not the best talent
[00:28:14] by far not the most speed on the field all the time
[00:28:19] and he was a middle of old road quarterback right like he was okay I
[00:28:26] think he has the build he has some certain things but to me it's all SEC
[00:28:32] athletes up here dog and I think Bonyx is gonna be trash
[00:28:37] and so I think to rehash what I said last episode I
[00:28:44] think that if you do not believe that you are getting at least a chance
[00:28:49] to your point no one knows but I will put it at 5%
[00:28:57] that Bonyx is a good NFL quarterback starting he might be a pretty good backup
[00:29:03] but I don't think that's what you're going for it 12
[00:29:08] that's brutal for the 12th pick if you're a decent backup quarter that's brutal
[00:29:14] 5% like that's 5% he's an actual like good starting in a fun quarterback that's where I put it
[00:29:21] and you know I've seen all the stuff to your point like there's processing speed
[00:29:26] there there's you know getting the ball out quick
[00:29:31] but to your point we've seen really talented
[00:29:41] quarterbacks get ruined by playing behind just trash lines with no weapons
[00:29:48] and then you know to borrow from Sam Darnold they start seeing ghosts out there
[00:29:53] and that's top of the line quarterbacks
[00:29:58] the Broncos have third pick talent like we should be where the patriots are
[00:30:09] but we pulled a rabbit foot out of our high-stepping gluteus maximus with Russ for a few
[00:30:19] weeks and went on win streak's were 12 but this roster is terrible
[00:30:23] and so to me I'm like if he comes to Denver not only do I not love him as a prospect
[00:30:29] but even if he has the potential to flourish with who with what
[00:30:36] like it's going to be really bad I think
[00:30:40] and you have a coach who's not used to losing
[00:30:44] and so he'll be in a mood out there with you too
[00:30:48] Not only have we shown a capability as an organization
[00:30:54] to screw up the draft on the offensive side of the ball in just
[00:30:58] and literally an unbelievable amount of ways
[00:31:03] I mean I was as high as anybody on Jerry Judy
[00:31:06] like but we haven't drafted a quarterback who's been good since
[00:31:16] John L. Wei
[00:31:19] well I and he really forced his way into us
[00:31:25] yeah multiple just like John Spitt doing in Denver for 40 years
[00:31:32] multiple probals J Cutler is out there
[00:31:37] we did draft we didn't keep him but we did have smoking J
[00:31:42] who technically had a long career as a starter
[00:31:45] which is more than I think we'll say for both
[00:31:47] is what I think of J Cutler's arm talent versus bone X
[00:31:52] in general in general we've shown zero propensity
[00:31:56] for being good at this and this new regime has done some wildly confusing things
[00:32:02] including giving Russell Wilson the contract extension before we'd seen him play it down
[00:32:07] which were now paying off so like why am I trusting them to do anything correct
[00:32:13] which is why I have always been a proponent for taking the known commodity
[00:32:17] like I am not saying Justin Fields is going to be awesome
[00:32:21] but I am saying that I know what he is and he doesn't suck
[00:32:24] like I know that he doesn't suck at everything about football
[00:32:29] I'm not sure that that's true about anybody in this draft
[00:32:33] like everybody's super stoked on Caleb Williams
[00:32:37] but it's not like we've never seen a number one pick go bust
[00:32:42] so I just I think drafting a quarterback is in general
[00:32:47] just a crap shoot and so I would much rather have the known commodity
[00:32:53] and I this team is going to be really hard to root for
[00:32:58] I think I just think that this is this has disaster written all over it
[00:33:03] so it's not inspiring not what you'd like to see coming into draft day
[00:33:11] no and I think a lot of Broncos fans they know that this team is kind of a tanking team
[00:33:18] so now they've kind of adopted that but they think that we're going to need a prospect
[00:33:23] like a team that tank last year but they forgot we didn't tank last year
[00:33:28] so you and I were screaming offload Simmons offload all these pieces that they handed up offloading anyway
[00:33:36] and we said just try them try them try them you know boom boom
[00:33:41] and get worse and lose and try to get one of these prospects and nope no no
[00:33:48] so when Justin Fields is starting and Russell Wilson is sitting on the bench
[00:33:54] and the Steelers win 12 games next year I am going to be losing my mind on this podcast
[00:34:02] you do not Kyle I'm telling you you do not want to be a part of it
[00:34:06] like I I think for everybody's sake you by yourself and let you go I'm just gonna say how about them Steelers
[00:34:14] I just I don't know man it nothing they've done has made sense to me
[00:34:23] so I just I I'm so down on the prospect of this draft being inspiring
[00:34:29] I do want to throw out there like if Jane think Daniel is there for I would
[00:34:37] I would move for Jane I'd move for Jane I've heard nothing about Peyton liking him
[00:34:42] so I don't think that's likely or the or maybe the Broncos he's so likely to be gone
[00:34:48] but in the world where they take Drake man to with the commanders
[00:34:53] and then for some reason the Patriots fall in love with JJ
[00:34:58] if he's there for and you're like hey Cardinals come on home
[00:35:04] we'll give you some first rounders for Jade I think you absolutely move heaven and earth for that
[00:35:11] and to be clear I think you stood him this year still until he inevitably hurts himself
[00:35:18] probably punching himself in the genitals or something
[00:35:21] you should go and you're going to stand up
[00:35:25] I still don't I wouldn't throw any developing quarterback behind this team
[00:35:30] I want to do it you do whoever is not someone we care about
[00:35:35] it's they're gonna get more back
[00:35:40] like it's going to be so bad can I even go back to be a dolphin fan
[00:35:47] all right come on in come on in the waters are fine
[00:35:51] but so we so talk to me about why jaden maybe your mad is as high on him as I am
[00:36:00] I just see the physical tools and to me he has the most of them
[00:36:05] yeah I mean and he's just a reality gives you a mobility thing that we've seen
[00:36:11] is such a cheat code if you have a smart offensive mind
[00:36:15] here's here's a take I think you would take a year
[00:36:18] that's why I'm like dude just lose for a year who cares
[00:36:21] and then you can sell and get back
[00:36:25] take a sort of a more shopping in my own head is that maybe Sean Peyton has just washed
[00:36:33] and it doesn't matter
[00:36:35] like it's possible that he's just not good at this anymore
[00:36:39] and we gave him a huge contract because he has a resume that is impressive
[00:36:46] and I liked what he did in in New Orleans I loved watching those saints team with
[00:36:51] truebie breeze and Michael Thomas and you know it was awesome
[00:36:55] with true breeze is the keyword there it's yeah
[00:36:58] it is the keyword and exactly what I was gonna say like we've never seen this guy
[00:37:03] do anything like what is before him at the Broncos
[00:37:07] and I honestly don't think he's up for the job
[00:37:10] I watching Jared Stidem is a young man's game
[00:37:14] all right you cannot be at an advanced age with potential hard issues
[00:37:18] and watch Jared Stidem play quarterback for me
[00:37:20] I just don't talk good I don't know that we can
[00:37:24] I think that's really at the core of why I'm so down on all of the decisions
[00:37:32] is that I think they could even potentially make the right decision
[00:37:35] and Peyton would screw it up so yeah
[00:37:40] that is really why I'm down on Jordan Daniels
[00:37:44] because I think he would be awesome and I'm just not sure he should come down to it
[00:37:48] like I think that's better for Jackson
[00:37:52] I want I think that's Levar Jackson going to Cleveland
[00:37:56] like it's
[00:37:59] I think oh god
[00:38:01] I was listening to something today
[00:38:03] they brought up the fact that Lamar Jackson just had that qualifying offer
[00:38:07] could you imagine if we just wouldn't have signed Russell Wilson
[00:38:10] and could have made the Mar Jackson a qualifying offer
[00:38:13] when he was playing contract chicken with the Ravens
[00:38:17] just like little opportunities that just are best
[00:38:21] you know so some may argue not even little ones
[00:38:25] but you just think
[00:38:27] but D are you are you fully bought in on Peyton like are you
[00:38:32] I'm not totally bought in on Peyton like I said
[00:38:34] I mean I think I was as big of a critic on the show of him last year
[00:38:38] is anyone in so far as I thought there were moments where he was really smart
[00:38:42] and how he attacked
[00:38:43] but I thought that was more prevalent in the running game
[00:38:46] and I thought he was more focused on being negative about Russ
[00:38:53] than trying to be creative in any way
[00:38:56] and we saw this offense a lot of times when just Russ scrambled up the middle
[00:39:01] and took off
[00:39:03] and or through little dump offs
[00:39:05] that was like the most effective it was
[00:39:07] as far as like consistently moving the ball
[00:39:10] and that's obviously off script stuff
[00:39:12] rather than
[00:39:14] you know play design
[00:39:16] which you could argue
[00:39:18] hey Russ was so bad and so limiting
[00:39:20] that he couldn't design some of the plays he wants to maybe right
[00:39:24] but I don't think did owner bone X is going to unlock this
[00:39:29] un-untapped potential
[00:39:32] that Russell Wilson just couldn't access
[00:39:35] like both of them sucked too
[00:39:37] yeah
[00:39:40] you know
[00:39:42] all right so it feels like now we've full thoroughly bombed ourselves out
[00:39:46] so I want to go to something that doesn't bomb us out
[00:39:49] but keeping on the draft theme and development all those kind of things
[00:39:54] I wanted to touch on Bill Simmons, Ryan or Sillow
[00:39:57] lovely podcast every Sunday
[00:39:59] Bill Simmons podcast
[00:40:01] a little indie podcast hope we make hope it makes it
[00:40:04] I think those guys are really doing something good out there
[00:40:07] so if you haven't heard of him check them out
[00:40:09] subscribe
[00:40:11] but
[00:40:13] I'm really be driving some traffic there way
[00:40:16] yeah and honestly
[00:40:17] it Bill wants to come on to reciprocate the favor
[00:40:20] that's we would be fine
[00:40:22] it's fine
[00:40:23] well depending on the dates really
[00:40:25] we've got to get stuff going
[00:40:27] we'll see what can happen
[00:40:28] Bodie might be jumping off a cliff at that point
[00:40:30] all they do
[00:40:32] be on guard at that
[00:40:33] good lord
[00:40:34] that's an uncle intervention
[00:40:36] that would help so yeah
[00:40:38] we need it soon
[00:40:41] but they were having
[00:40:44] and I thought it was interesting
[00:40:46] they were having a lead wide
[00:40:49] they said hey let's just take all defensive teams
[00:40:52] so you're just focused on defense
[00:40:54] they had a sixth man
[00:40:55] they had two guards
[00:40:58] two forwards
[00:40:59] a center, a sixth man
[00:41:00] and one white guy
[00:41:01] and there were zero nuggets drafted Ryan
[00:41:05] it's kind of wild
[00:41:09] so the usual suspects were
[00:41:12] six man, you had Jonathan Isaac
[00:41:15] you had Jalen Sugs in there
[00:41:17] you have Yannis in there
[00:41:19] you have Rudy in there
[00:41:22] you have Victor Webbingyama in there
[00:41:25] Drew Holiday is great
[00:41:28] so Derek White
[00:41:31] there are some good names in there
[00:41:33] but Shay
[00:41:35] Gillesau Alexander
[00:41:37] not great
[00:41:39] and they had an under 20-minute game guy
[00:41:43] who had to be your sixth man
[00:41:45] the fact that Peyton Watson
[00:41:47] received no love
[00:41:49] in that
[00:41:50] is wild to me
[00:41:52] it feels like
[00:41:54] between Aaron Gordon
[00:41:56] KCP
[00:41:57] and Peyton Watson
[00:42:00] that's the most switchable three
[00:42:03] that you could have
[00:42:05] Peyton has been overpowered
[00:42:07] and KCP there are some guys
[00:42:08] that are just too tall
[00:42:10] but KCP still has given Durant
[00:42:12] the business
[00:42:13] he's still had great possessions
[00:42:14] against LeBron
[00:42:15] like he has such quick hands
[00:42:17] and so good
[00:42:18] so I just don't understand it
[00:42:20] I think they're really insanely good
[00:42:23] and very underrated as players
[00:42:25] and I know I went off
[00:42:26] on a last podcast about
[00:42:28] how they're not appreciated as a whole
[00:42:29] but just their defense to me
[00:42:31] is very underrated
[00:42:33] so I wanted to get your take on
[00:42:35] where you kind of think
[00:42:37] those three specifically
[00:42:39] because those were who came to my mind
[00:42:40] as if I was going to nominate guys
[00:42:42] based off those categories
[00:42:44] those would be my three
[00:42:45] that I would be like
[00:42:46] hey think about including them
[00:42:49] I think you're missing one
[00:42:51] who I'll get to
[00:42:52] but I
[00:42:55] KCP to me
[00:42:57] is the top of that barrel
[00:42:59] like he the stuff that he does
[00:43:01] to chase people around
[00:43:03] it's honestly like
[00:43:05] I think it's
[00:43:07] because Yokech has been seen
[00:43:09] as like the non-defensive superstar
[00:43:12] and it's honestly something
[00:43:14] that like if you're watching the games
[00:43:16] you know better by now
[00:43:18] because he's really good on defense
[00:43:20] I mean he's not really good
[00:43:21] but when he tries
[00:43:22] he's really good
[00:43:23] and I was going to say
[00:43:24] he's not dead
[00:43:26] I'll get to that
[00:43:27] but when
[00:43:28] I guess when we're talking about
[00:43:29] like true defensive
[00:43:31] prowess
[00:43:32] like I think KCP is the person
[00:43:33] that gets the most overlooked
[00:43:35] and I think it's a team-wide thing
[00:43:36] because they assume
[00:43:37] Yokech doesn't play defense
[00:43:38] so they assume
[00:43:39] the team doesn't play defense
[00:43:41] and KCP is not lighting up
[00:43:42] the scoreboard
[00:43:43] and anything other than
[00:43:44] corner three
[00:43:45] so it's like
[00:43:46] he's not getting
[00:43:47] appreciated in the same way
[00:43:48] as somebody who's
[00:43:49] got that little bit of
[00:43:50] awesome
[00:43:51] offensive game to them
[00:43:52] and not to say
[00:43:53] that he doesn't
[00:43:54] definitely does
[00:43:55] but it's just not
[00:43:56] we don't need it that much
[00:43:58] you know
[00:43:59] like KCP could go get 25
[00:44:01] if he was on the wizards
[00:44:02] right now
[00:44:03] but he doesn't have to
[00:44:05] on the nuggets
[00:44:06] so he doesn't
[00:44:07] then I would go AG
[00:44:11] obviously
[00:44:12] like AG's role
[00:44:15] on the nuggets
[00:44:16] is he's the most
[00:44:17] underrated player
[00:44:18] and I think he might be
[00:44:19] the most important
[00:44:20] outside of Yokech
[00:44:21] and Murray
[00:44:22] on the team
[00:44:23] just to the overall
[00:44:24] chemistry
[00:44:25] like the role that he plays
[00:44:26] offensively
[00:44:27] the screen setting
[00:44:28] obviously
[00:44:29] the dunker spot
[00:44:30] stuff is insane
[00:44:31] him playing
[00:44:32] five
[00:44:33] I think in these
[00:44:34] clutch moments is also
[00:44:35] huge
[00:44:36] he can guard one
[00:44:37] through five
[00:44:38] you can't really ask
[00:44:39] for anything more
[00:44:41] Peyton Watson
[00:44:42] couldn't agree more
[00:44:43] the last ten games
[00:44:44] in particular
[00:44:45] like I think he had five
[00:44:46] or six blocks
[00:44:47] the other night
[00:44:48] and some of them were
[00:44:50] emphatic
[00:44:51] like
[00:44:52] and he really enjoys
[00:44:53] playing defense
[00:44:54] which is fun to watch
[00:44:55] the other two
[00:44:56] were more
[00:44:57] like subtle
[00:44:58] than how they're
[00:44:59] they're almost a little
[00:45:00] bit more savvy
[00:45:01] and they're older
[00:45:02] right
[00:45:03] they're both still super
[00:45:04] athletes
[00:45:05] but they're just older
[00:45:06] and Peyton Watson
[00:45:07] is just like
[00:45:08] I could get beat by you
[00:45:09] but I'm going to
[00:45:10] wreck your shot
[00:45:11] from a spot
[00:45:12] that you never
[00:45:13] could think
[00:45:14] that I could get
[00:45:15] to your shot
[00:45:16] but I'm still going to get there
[00:45:17] it's just like
[00:45:18] he's the only
[00:45:19] wow factor defender
[00:45:20] so I agree with you
[00:45:22] I think he should have
[00:45:23] gotten more
[00:45:24] looks in this draft
[00:45:25] I do think that it's
[00:45:26] just new
[00:45:27] so like
[00:45:28] I don't know
[00:45:30] I think it'll come
[00:45:32] the last person
[00:45:34] who I would throw in
[00:45:36] is just the white guy
[00:45:37] Christian
[00:45:38] Christian is a decent
[00:45:40] defender when he tried
[00:45:42] he is super
[00:45:43] size-limited
[00:45:44] but he has some
[00:45:45] sneaky Alex Caruso
[00:45:47] moments
[00:45:48] where he's just
[00:45:49] in the right spot
[00:45:51] and he'll step into a
[00:45:52] passing lane
[00:45:53] or he has
[00:45:55] clutch defense
[00:45:56] written all over him
[00:45:57] and that's the last part
[00:45:59] of this that I do want
[00:46:00] to just approve my point
[00:46:02] about the Nuggets
[00:46:03] defensive prowess
[00:46:05] so when you
[00:46:08] just look at
[00:46:09] defensive rating
[00:46:10] the Nuggets are really good
[00:46:12] they're actually
[00:46:13] better than they were
[00:46:14] last year
[00:46:15] but when you look
[00:46:17] at clutch defensive rating
[00:46:18] the Nuggets are
[00:46:20] fourth in the NBA
[00:46:21] and the teams in front of them
[00:46:23] are the nicks, the magic
[00:46:25] and the bulls
[00:46:26] so you're talking about
[00:46:27] teams that aren't
[00:46:28] necessarily
[00:46:29] might be playing in
[00:46:30] close games
[00:46:31] but they might not matter
[00:46:32] them
[00:46:33] like the bulls are a bad team
[00:46:35] you know
[00:46:36] like they're not winning
[00:46:37] a lot of games
[00:46:38] and so I think
[00:46:39] you know
[00:46:40] they're better than
[00:46:41] the Celtics
[00:46:42] in clutch defensive
[00:46:43] games
[00:46:44] so I think
[00:46:45] don't we know
[00:46:46] yeah
[00:46:47] there's
[00:46:48] a
[00:46:49] yeah
[00:46:50] that's just wonderful
[00:46:52] so I think they're
[00:46:54] there's just sort of
[00:46:56] a disconnect
[00:46:57] from the reputation
[00:46:58] and what's actually
[00:46:59] happening on the floor
[00:47:00] and I think that
[00:47:02] is the reason for
[00:47:04] that sort of dynamic
[00:47:05] but it is super
[00:47:07] frustrating
[00:47:08] because they're awesome
[00:47:10] and when we
[00:47:11] I mean we watch them
[00:47:12] every night
[00:47:13] like they
[00:47:14] are really awesome
[00:47:15] and I think
[00:47:16] the thing
[00:47:17] is the stuff
[00:47:18] that they do
[00:47:19] is glue
[00:47:20] stuff
[00:47:21] for the offense
[00:47:22] yeah
[00:47:23] it's great
[00:47:24] individual
[00:47:25] effort
[00:47:26] and AG
[00:47:27] is
[00:47:28] to your point
[00:47:29] I think he's
[00:47:30] the most
[00:47:31] switchable
[00:47:32] playoff guy
[00:47:33] he's
[00:47:34] taking that mantle
[00:47:35] from Dremond
[00:47:36] of
[00:47:37] like
[00:47:38] oh we need to
[00:47:39] cool down
[00:47:40] this guy
[00:47:41] like
[00:47:42] they'll be a
[00:47:43] great
[00:47:45] guard
[00:47:46] like
[00:47:47] and you know
[00:47:48] like then he might
[00:47:49] guard
[00:47:50] Carl Anthony
[00:47:51] Towns
[00:47:52] like you don't
[00:47:53] I mean
[00:47:54] like probably not in that
[00:47:55] order but
[00:47:56] you get the idea right
[00:47:57] like
[00:47:58] he has
[00:48:00] insane versatility
[00:48:01] of the kind of players
[00:48:02] he can do
[00:48:03] but I wanted to get
[00:48:04] your take
[00:48:06] last year at this time
[00:48:07] we were having
[00:48:08] the nuggets
[00:48:09] giving exactly
[00:48:10] 0F
[00:48:11] because they already
[00:48:12] give a lot of Fs
[00:48:13] because they're
[00:48:15] still very
[00:48:17] close to the thunder
[00:48:20] and even
[00:48:21] the tumble still
[00:48:22] with two
[00:48:24] left
[00:48:25] so I guess
[00:48:29] my question is
[00:48:31] how excited were you
[00:48:35] because to me
[00:48:36] this was an
[00:48:37] underrated storyline
[00:48:38] that the nuggets
[00:48:39] snuck rest
[00:48:40] this last week
[00:48:41] where they've
[00:48:43] they've
[00:48:44] rested
[00:48:45] Jamal
[00:48:46] they've rested
[00:48:47] A.G.
[00:48:48] They got
[00:48:49] Yoke
[00:48:50] a game
[00:48:51] like
[00:48:52] they stolen some
[00:48:53] games here of rest
[00:48:54] because
[00:48:55] they're playing
[00:48:56] in such bad teams
[00:48:57] who are also
[00:48:58] resting
[00:48:59] everybody
[00:49:00] that they're just
[00:49:01] oh it's fine
[00:49:02] we'll still win
[00:49:03] and they did
[00:49:04] right
[00:49:05] in both cases
[00:49:06] so they've
[00:49:07] kept their
[00:49:08] winning streak
[00:49:09] but they've
[00:49:10] made it
[00:49:11] so
[00:49:12] gotten
[00:49:13] some maintenance
[00:49:14] rest
[00:49:15] not to say that
[00:49:16] Jamal's
[00:49:17] ankle isn't
[00:49:18] a thing
[00:49:19] or a shin
[00:49:20] splin's
[00:49:21] aren't a thing
[00:49:22] but like
[00:49:23] Yoke
[00:49:24] could play
[00:49:25] if he needed to
[00:49:26] but we didn't need him
[00:49:27] to
[00:49:28] against Portland
[00:49:29] and so he didn't
[00:49:30] right
[00:49:31] like
[00:49:32] and I think
[00:49:33] that was a part
[00:49:34] of the nuggets
[00:49:35] playoff
[00:49:36] last year
[00:49:37] was being able
[00:49:38] to be kind of fresh
[00:49:40] but
[00:49:41] how
[00:49:42] excited
[00:49:43] were you this week
[00:49:44] because I think
[00:49:45] when you
[00:49:46] look at the
[00:49:47] standings
[00:49:48] you're like
[00:49:49] yeah, you beat
[00:49:50] two pretty bad teams
[00:49:51] in
[00:49:52] Portland
[00:49:53] and Memphis
[00:49:54] one of them
[00:49:55] at home
[00:49:56] but
[00:49:57] when you look
[00:49:58] back at the rest
[00:49:59] that they stole here
[00:50:00] I think this may be
[00:50:01] kind of a big
[00:50:02] moment
[00:50:03] in the season
[00:50:04] I'm curious
[00:50:05] on your take
[00:50:06] on that
[00:50:07] that's my
[00:50:08] own
[00:50:13] I think
[00:50:15] I think
[00:50:16] we're going to be
[00:50:17] so much
[00:50:18] better off
[00:50:19] for it.
[00:50:20] I couldn't agree
[00:50:21] more
[00:50:22] and I love the take
[00:50:23] I think
[00:50:25] it's
[00:50:27] exactly what you're
[00:50:28] talking about
[00:50:29] it's almost like
[00:50:30] you're not
[00:50:31] giving an
[00:50:32] F
[00:50:33] but you still
[00:50:34] win the game
[00:50:35] and I think
[00:50:37] it's
[00:50:40] that you had the
[00:50:42] simultaneous rest
[00:50:43] by the stars
[00:50:44] and you had the
[00:50:45] simultaneous
[00:50:46] like
[00:50:47] increase
[00:50:48] in effort
[00:50:49] and productivity
[00:50:50] of the bench
[00:50:51] and
[00:50:52] I don't know
[00:50:53] if they're
[00:50:54] correlated
[00:50:55] like it's hard to say
[00:50:56] that
[00:50:57] from the outside
[00:50:58] you don't know
[00:50:59] whether
[00:51:00] Malone saw
[00:51:01] something
[00:51:02] and was
[00:51:03] like these guys
[00:51:04] just need minutes
[00:51:05] but
[00:51:06] they're
[00:51:09] going to see the
[00:51:10] dynamic of those
[00:51:11] bench guys
[00:51:12] and all of
[00:51:13] I think
[00:51:14] all of those guys
[00:51:15] and this is
[00:51:16] the brilliance
[00:51:17] of Michael Malone
[00:51:18] like
[00:51:19] this is what he
[00:51:20] probably deserves
[00:51:21] the most
[00:51:22] credit for this season
[00:51:23] is that
[00:51:24] all of those guys
[00:51:25] feel
[00:51:26] like they're fighting
[00:51:27] for playoff
[00:51:28] minutes
[00:51:29] even if in his head
[00:51:30] he knows
[00:51:31] exactly
[00:51:32] what that rotation
[00:51:33] is going to look
[00:51:34] like
[00:51:35] you're going to
[00:51:36] get a
[00:51:37] little bit
[00:51:38] in the
[00:51:39] game
[00:51:40] and a big
[00:51:41] moment
[00:51:42] in a game
[00:51:43] against the
[00:51:44] suns
[00:51:45] in the second round
[00:51:46] like
[00:51:47] if we need a
[00:51:48] three
[00:51:49] and everybody
[00:51:50] is
[00:51:51] shooting
[00:51:52] and not
[00:51:53] giving effort
[00:51:54] like
[00:51:55] you're coming in.
[00:51:56] So I think
[00:51:57] that is
[00:51:58] it's
[00:51:59] true
[00:52:00] veteran stuff
[00:52:01] and I think
[00:52:02] it's
[00:52:03] perfectly time
[00:52:04] for the
[00:52:05] game
[00:52:06] and I think
[00:52:07] it's
[00:52:08] really
[00:52:09] great.
[00:52:10] It's
[00:52:11] really
[00:52:12] great.
[00:52:13] Yeah.
[00:52:14] Yeah.
[00:52:15] Can't say enough
[00:52:16] about it.
[00:52:17] Hopefully,
[00:52:18] if you take a game
[00:52:19] over the suns here
[00:52:20] tomorrow night
[00:52:22] it
[00:52:23] truly becomes
[00:52:24] a
[00:52:25] wild run
[00:52:26] that you can go on
[00:52:27] there with some
[00:52:28] of the opponents
[00:52:29] down the stretch.
[00:52:30] But
[00:52:31] I mean
[00:52:32] they're
[00:52:33] going to be
[00:52:34] in the
[00:52:36] game.
[00:52:37] I don't know what the
[00:52:38] record is since they all
[00:52:39] start break, but I think
[00:52:40] they only have two
[00:52:41] losses.
[00:52:42] Yeah.
[00:52:43] They've
[00:52:44] lost to a
[00:52:45] kairi left handed
[00:52:46] floater and
[00:52:47] to an
[00:52:48] overtime game
[00:52:49] to the suns.
[00:52:50] And which
[00:52:51] Durant
[00:52:52] hit a tying
[00:52:53] three after the
[00:52:54] nuggets slept walk
[00:52:55] through the
[00:52:56] most of the game.
[00:52:57] They're still
[00:52:58] three
[00:52:59] there.
[00:53:00] They're still
[00:53:01] three after the
[00:53:02] last game.
[00:53:03] So that's all I
[00:53:04] have.
[00:53:05] We'll be back
[00:53:06] next week.
[00:53:07] I'm going to
[00:53:08] continue watching these
[00:53:09] terrible college games,
[00:53:10] right?
[00:53:11] I'll report back.
[00:53:12] We call reports
[00:53:13] from Cal.
[00:53:14] And
[00:53:15] I'll probably be
[00:53:16] joining you in that
[00:53:17] game.
[00:53:18] Oh God.
[00:53:19] Ryan.
[00:53:20] It's
[00:53:21] warm down here,
[00:53:22] but there's room.
[00:53:23] So come on a board
[00:53:24] and then we'd be
[00:53:25] remiss if we didn't
[00:53:26] say
[00:53:27] Lady Buffalo's
[00:53:29] game.
[00:53:30] Let's go get
[00:53:31] Caitlin Clark.
[00:53:32] All right.
[00:53:33] Even though the
[00:53:34] referees are going to be
[00:53:35] against you,
[00:53:36] even though ESPN is
[00:53:37] going to give you no
[00:53:38] coverage,
[00:53:39] even though they're
[00:53:40] going to give you
[00:53:41] no love,
[00:53:42] it's us versus
[00:53:43] the world.
[00:53:44] And you know what?
[00:53:45] It's always been that
[00:53:46] way, ladies.
[00:53:47] All right.
[00:53:48] So let's go out there
[00:53:49] and let's get a big W.
[00:53:50] I love it.
[00:53:51] So excited to watch
[00:53:52] see you in this
[00:53:53] basketball.
[00:53:54] They're
[00:53:55] fun team to watch.
[00:53:56] And
[00:53:58] congrats to both CSU
[00:54:00] and Siemens teams on good
[00:54:02] seasons.
[00:54:03] Siemens right there with
[00:54:04] Marquette and got some
[00:54:05] wide open threes to win
[00:54:06] that game,
[00:54:07] but they're in college.
[00:54:08] So they break the hell out
[00:54:09] of them.
[00:54:10] So that's fine.
[00:54:12] But
[00:54:13] anything else to add,
[00:54:14] Ryan?
[00:54:15] The pro just got
[00:54:16] broken up by their
[00:54:17] girlfriend or had a big
[00:54:19] test the next day.
[00:54:20] It's so stupid.
[00:54:22] These kids are
[00:54:23] 18.
[00:54:24] Real bad.
[00:54:26] Real bad.
[00:54:27] The problem with
[00:54:28] Siemens is they aren't
[00:54:29] so most won't believe it.
[00:54:30] Oh, no, I don't
[00:54:33] have anything else.
[00:54:35] All right.
[00:54:36] Well, the next week
[00:54:37] I think by the time
[00:54:39] we record next week,
[00:54:42] we might be able to start
[00:54:43] getting into some
[00:54:44] playoff preview stuff
[00:54:46] for both hockey and
[00:54:48] for NBA.
[00:54:50] So I'm excited
[00:54:51] for this part of the season.
[00:54:54] You got to be a real
[00:54:55] NBA head to care about
[00:54:56] this so we can
[00:54:57] think we're at the
[00:54:58] end of the podcast.
[00:54:59] But do you think that
[00:55:00] the rockets are going
[00:55:01] to catch either
[00:55:02] the Lakers or the
[00:55:03] Warriors for that last
[00:55:04] playoff spot?
[00:55:05] I kind of think
[00:55:06] that they are.
[00:55:08] Yeah.
[00:55:09] I don't really
[00:55:10] have to back right now,
[00:55:11] dude.
[00:55:12] Oh, I agree.
[00:55:13] I just feel like
[00:55:15] this rocket thing has
[00:55:16] come back down to it.
[00:55:17] There's no way
[00:55:18] that this good without
[00:55:19] singing.
[00:55:20] There's no world.
[00:55:21] It's fun.
[00:55:23] Jay-Lidgrain looks like
[00:55:25] obviously I need to
[00:55:27] speak to you about
[00:55:28] sevens.
[00:55:29] He was like,
[00:55:30] I'm not going to say
[00:55:31] Michael Jordan
[00:55:32] and then he just said
[00:55:33] Michael Jordan.
[00:55:34] So it's,
[00:55:35] I mean,
[00:55:36] it is absurd.
[00:55:37] But yeah.
[00:55:38] Yeah.
[00:55:39] Don't believe it.
[00:55:40] So no,
[00:55:41] I sadly don't watch
[00:55:43] it instead of watching
[00:55:45] the magic.
[00:55:46] So,
[00:55:47] I'm afraid of
[00:55:48] him.
[00:55:49] Um,
[00:55:50] all right.
[00:55:51] Well,
[00:55:52] thank you
[00:55:53] to our Super Producer
[00:55:54] Dan.
[00:55:55] He's doing this on the
[00:55:56] road in Utah.
[00:55:57] So what a stud to him.
[00:55:58] And we will talk
[00:56:00] to you next week.
[00:56:01] Go nuggets,
[00:56:02] go abs,
[00:56:03] go lady buffs.
[00:56:04] Buddy.
[00:56:05] Go on.