State of the State
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State of the State

Blucifer grades the big four! The Nuggets, Avs, Broncos, and Rockies get Blucifer grades from Ryan and Kyle for ownership, coaching, and rosters. 

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[00:00:00] It's time for our first annual State of the State

[00:00:06] Because we're in a state not in a union which is made up of multiple states

[00:00:13] Because we're in Colorado, which is a state and

[00:00:16] We have four teams and we're going to talk about the state of them

[00:00:21] Dan

[00:00:22] Play our state of the state music

[00:00:26] Welcome in to another episode of the Blucifer Brothers

[00:00:34] I'm your host Kyle Poland, joined as always by my brother Ryan

[00:00:40] Poland is his name as well because we're related

[00:00:44] We are talking Colorado sports which we do every week, but this week

[00:00:49] It's important with three press conferences today

[00:00:53] We had the Avs having a season wrap-up, the Nuggets having a season wrap-up and

[00:00:59] the Broncos having a press conference post like rookie mini camp and

[00:01:05] OTAs and

[00:01:08] The Rockies lost again, which is a press conference of sorts. We thought we'd do kind of a state of

[00:01:16] the state

[00:01:17] It's not a union

[00:01:19] But it is a state and that state is Colorado and we thought we'd see where the

[00:01:25] sports are and

[00:01:28] To help keep ourselves

[00:01:30] Kind of structured and on track

[00:01:33] We're gonna go through ownership

[00:01:37] coaching and roster and we're gonna give them each a letter grade and

[00:01:42] Kind of go through briefly why we think that and we're gonna go

[00:01:49] Nuggets Avs

[00:01:51] Broncos Rockies

[00:01:56] Those that's kind of a general layout Ryan does that sound good to you? It sounds great. I

[00:02:04] You know, I haven't announced anything obviously

[00:02:08] But I will be coming for governor polis's job. So I look forward to giving an actual state of the state job

[00:02:15] speech here soon, but

[00:02:17] Until then I guess this will do I

[00:02:21] Could not wait to

[00:02:24] hear

[00:02:25] Your state of the state and it's just about Denver sports

[00:02:30] Like what about the homelessness and the crime and you're just like

[00:02:34] So Christian Brown as I was saying

[00:02:38] Kyle Clark before I was so rudely interrupted. You're what's next buddy. You're

[00:02:48] Yeah

[00:02:50] So let's get into it with the nuggets. Let's start at the top

[00:02:54] ownership here

[00:02:55] I am going to give the ownership a solid C minus

[00:03:00] I

[00:03:01] Think that it was positive today

[00:03:04] This is the night obviously Josh Cronke said when you have

[00:03:09] Yokich you are in your championship window. We are willing to spend we are willing to do that

[00:03:16] They have not shown to being willing to spend on a practice facility

[00:03:20] They for the longest time were not willing to spend on their own g-league team

[00:03:25] they were

[00:03:28] Notoriously

[00:03:30] Have been cheap about allowing fans of Colorado to watch this team. I think

[00:03:37] the Cronkies are

[00:03:41] Going to be giving the exact same amount of effort once Nikola Yokich is gone and

[00:03:49] That is going to show and

[00:03:52] I think that it's helpful that

[00:03:56] Josh really loves basketball

[00:04:00] And so it won't become totally forgotten, but this was not a well-run team

[00:04:08] under the Cronkies for a large portion and

[00:04:11] I think they've just kind of been

[00:04:15] douchey

[00:04:16] Throughout the whole process

[00:04:18] I

[00:04:20] Think they trust Calvin Booth. So I like that. I don't want a Jerry Jones owner, which is gonna be kind of a theme in my

[00:04:30] Ownership you don't see them making big statements or being you know, like the center of attention type the crunk

[00:04:36] They stay out of the news. They do do a good job of that. They're not they're not typically saying anything dumb

[00:04:42] And that's actually very

[00:04:44] It's it's an interesting point with the Cronkies that we can just talk about in general

[00:04:49] They're very influential in these leagues

[00:04:51] Like I mean that guy literally built the NFL facility next to the Rams

[00:04:56] So like it's not just the NBA like they are very

[00:05:01] Influential when Stan Cronkies says something in these owners meetings like other owners listen

[00:05:05] so I do think that that can't be underestimated, but I do agree with you in general that

[00:05:11] For our entire lifetime. They've been cheap as hell. Like they have not been invested in the grave in the in the team

[00:05:17] I

[00:05:18] Personally am gonna give them a B

[00:05:21] And this is a lot like a B that I would get in high school

[00:05:25] You don't deserve it, but you got lucky and you're pretty talented at one thing

[00:05:31] You know, you got Nicole Yookich. So you're gonna get a B

[00:05:35] So I agree with everything that you said. I don't really disagree with anything

[00:05:40] I'm just more lenient on them because we have a banner hanging in the rafters. So

[00:05:45] They get a pass on my on my front

[00:05:50] All right

[00:05:51] Let's move into coaching

[00:05:53] so

[00:05:55] We have time to ask this question

[00:05:58] We had the first time

[00:06:00] where

[00:06:01] Mike Malone it only he only got a year and now we have

[00:06:08] Him to his credit

[00:06:10] He kind of jumped in front of the bus

[00:06:12] He was like, did we look he's like I thought we looked dog-tired

[00:06:15] At the end in the second half of game seven and he's like, I think that's why we lost and he's like

[00:06:20] Could you put that on me pushing?

[00:06:23] The team too much during the regular season. He's like absolutely he's like and that's on me

[00:06:30] He's like and I should have tried to integrate the rookies more and try to get them on the same page with

[00:06:37] The starters and I didn't do a good enough job with that. What's your grade? I love his accountability

[00:06:42] I love his in-game adjustments. I don't think Peyton Watson was ready for that Tim Rolls series

[00:06:48] I'm giving him a solid a-minus. I think he is

[00:06:52] Absolutely perfect for Jokic and it can't be understated

[00:06:56] because Jokic is never gonna light anybody up and

[00:07:00] He we talked about it during the championship run

[00:07:03] He's kind of the swag and

[00:07:05] Kind of the shit talker and the horror was the brass

[00:07:09] Where was it then? What do you mean? That's that the swag was exactly what we were missing. Where was I?

[00:07:17] Don't think we were missing swag. I think we were missing legs

[00:07:20] No, which I think he took accountability for but I think that's gonna be

[00:07:25] Anthony Edwards punked us in a game seven on our own Carl Anthony Towns and Rudy go bear punked us in a game

[00:07:31] I was gonna say Anthony Edwards played like crap. I'm not I'm not here to

[00:07:38] Listen I I think that Michael Malone is a very good basketball coach

[00:07:42] I think he's excellent at most of the things you have to be really good at to be a good

[00:07:49] NBA coach which is mostly managing a locker room like

[00:07:54] Your in-game adjustments like those things happen obviously

[00:07:57] But he literally has a bench full of assistants that mostly do that stuff

[00:08:01] so he is there sort of as a figurehead people managing and he's good at that but I

[00:08:10] With this roster. I don't think that you can

[00:08:15] Excuse and walk away from the fact that he played Justin Holliday as much as he did and didn't give Peyton Watson any

[00:08:21] minutes like

[00:08:23] if if Peyton Watson is the future which

[00:08:27] He seemingly is of like that role-playing situation then you have to

[00:08:34] You have to be able to

[00:08:38] give those people actual minutes and games that matter and

[00:08:42] When you're I just don't understand that well

[00:08:46] I'm being a little prisoner at the moment because I don't understand being

[00:08:50] Getting picked apart in the second half like you were in that Minnesota series and not looking at Peyton Watson on the bench

[00:08:56] at home and

[00:08:57] Saying maybe I give this guy five minutes to run around out there and maybe get a block like we needed

[00:09:04] Anything we needed energy and he just didn't look at it. So I

[00:09:08] I'm going to give him a C-plus

[00:09:13] I

[00:09:17] don't I'm I

[00:09:20] Just don't know if his

[00:09:23] the management is is

[00:09:26] Where it needs to be I honestly think excuse me everyone we're gonna pause the podcast

[00:09:31] Ryan is down in Denver and his lovely new home. I am here with Dan

[00:09:37] But I need to get in a car and go down there and fight Ryan

[00:09:42] Because he just gave Cronkia B and said you have Jokic. That's good. You know who Jokic fucking loves

[00:09:50] Mike Malone

[00:09:51] The lowest is a B

[00:09:54] Coach hold on that doesn't mean he's a good owner, but you gave him a B

[00:10:01] He's the owners the person was like I don't like

[00:10:05] Jokic

[00:10:06] I'm just saying like Cronkia has such little to do with any of the day-to-day that

[00:10:12] It's hard to judge him on anything other than the result and the result was a championship last year

[00:10:17] I have Michael hold on. Hey, we had a fucking practice facility. Oh

[00:10:23] my god

[00:10:25] It's just like it's the same shit who cares. It does not matter if they have a practice facility. What does matter is

[00:10:32] Can the coach actually make an adjustment during a series or is it the player?

[00:10:38] Is it the fact that he has the best player that we've maybe ever seen?

[00:10:43] Well, we've definitely ever seen but he's probably a top five player in the NBA who is a court general and

[00:10:51] You're telling me that you're gonna give his coach credit for Nikola liking him

[00:10:58] If you're Nikola Jokic isn't the whole point of Michael Malone's existence to get the fuck out of your way. Oh

[00:11:06] They there's a lot of coaches who don't do well with Nikola Jokic

[00:11:13] Yeah, sure, but that's it doesn't mean he's a good coach. You're you're talking about two different things

[00:11:19] I'm saying he's a great people manager and you're saying he's a great said was most of being an NBA coach

[00:11:25] Yeah, but yeah, I don't think he managed the people well who did he?

[00:11:32] Do you think that we've managed do you think that we manage the playoffs? Well, I don't think that any coach makes a difference

[00:11:42] That's I disagree

[00:11:45] Justin Holliday didn't play bad

[00:11:47] We're not gonna skate. I'm not saying you did holiday. No, I'm not saying that I'm just saying you have to you have to you can't

[00:11:55] When your backs against the wall like that Peyton, it's not like Peyton Watson wasn't playing

[00:12:01] Like the guy played consistent minutes all year and then sat the bench

[00:12:07] for Minnesota when what we needed was somebody long and

[00:12:12] Somebody to bother shots and he's great. I

[00:12:18] Don't I'm not disagreeing with you that yes Peyton Watson has weaknesses

[00:12:22] I'm just saying like when you're in that situation, you need to be I

[00:12:27] Just think that his mindset of I don't trust this young guy. Fuck this young guy. I can't play him

[00:12:33] I don't trust him. I don't trust him. I don't trust him has been bitten us many times

[00:12:38] He used it we used to be furious when he wouldn't play MPJ

[00:12:41] like this is not a

[00:12:44] It's not like I'm bringing up something because of this season like I've always been frustrated by his rotations

[00:12:50] I've always been frustrated by the tab fact that he didn't trust people. He didn't trust Christian Brown last year

[00:12:56] He didn't play him for essentially the whole first half of the season and then gave him minutes towards the end and then Christian

[00:13:03] Earned those minutes in the playoffs where he gave him chances did Peyton Watson get those chances?

[00:13:09] I don't think he did

[00:13:09] I don't think he got the same shake that Christian Brown did and I do think that Malone is to blame somewhat for that. I

[00:13:18] Think he did get those chances and I do think Peyton Watson was the leak to Gilbert arenas

[00:13:23] And I think that's why we didn't see him

[00:13:26] That's my conspiracy theory take and every time that I've questioned a Malone rotation

[00:13:33] I remember sitting in the stands with you and being like this is absolute BS

[00:13:38] Why are we not playing MPJ more and then MPJ came out and was like, oh

[00:13:43] I'm actually really banged up. I appreciate him alone. That's me heel

[00:13:47] I was like, thank you and he's in front of it. I was about to say the only the

[00:13:53] Malone saving grace. I'm definitely being hard on Malone. I'm not disagreeing with you there but

[00:13:59] His only saving grace is potentially that there's an injury that we just don't know about like

[00:14:05] Because it was that weird that it's like it

[00:14:09] Peyton Watson got shit on

[00:14:11] By Anthony Edwards when he played I'm not I don't I wouldn't have put him on it. Oh

[00:14:16] I like put it on every time just saying

[00:14:20] Justin Holliday came in and cash threes and Peyton Watson wasn't doing now and if you can't pay to Watson on

[00:14:27] Listen you can't be lecturing me about

[00:14:30] Benching Justin Holliday. I said at the beginning of the year that he was going to be one of our most important playoff pieces

[00:14:36] So don't come at me about my Justin Holliday. I'm not I'm not saying I'm saying take Reggie

[00:14:42] Reggie's take Reggie's minutes take Reggie's minutes. I know I'm not worried about the rotations

[00:14:49] They were big as hell. Reggie didn't play. I'm just saying like take anybody's minutes. It doesn't matter

[00:14:55] I'd take Mike's minutes in game seven sit his ass down like I don't I am not

[00:15:01] Yeah, but I'm just saying like there are lineups that you can play both of them together

[00:15:04] and I think in that series you kind of needed it when McDaniels is busting your ass and cat is busting your

[00:15:10] Ass and you need to be switchable on to aunt like maybe you need the long defender

[00:15:15] Who's sitting on your fucking bench who averaged a block and a half a game?

[00:15:20] When he got more than ten minutes like what are we doing? Maybe that might be a good thing from the locker room

[00:15:27] After yokich gives you commercials and we'll play you more Peyton. How about that? I also

[00:15:34] think that he was

[00:15:37] Handcuffed by Strother's injury they talked about it today. They said it was more of an MRI or a MCL strain

[00:15:45] Which is like a little bit more

[00:15:48] Serious and a little bit more dicey cuz I think straw did you just say Strother?

[00:15:52] Yeah, Strother was the guy we needed cuz rather was cooking early. Are you crazy?

[00:15:58] Okay, let's just transition into the roster. Well, we're talking about it already. Yeah, like what do you mean?

[00:16:07] For me alone have I talked you up to a C plus can I get a C plus?

[00:16:13] well

[00:16:17] Yeah, it was a C plus to begin with okay, I

[00:16:21] I really I I did really want to give him the same grade as the owners, but it felt boring

[00:16:28] Give them the same so I

[00:16:31] Think they both get a B. Sure. Okay. I mean I think I think I should turn her it up here

[00:16:36] You know, I think they actually got

[00:16:39] Well, but I think they got lucky. I think Malone if you give Malone a

[00:16:44] Non you Nicole a yokich roster. He's not doing shit with it. He we have we have evidence

[00:16:50] Yeah, that's decent roster in Sacramento because we have Nicole a yokich

[00:16:56] But he he had he was a coach in Sacramento

[00:16:59] Yeah, and all the players loved him Rudy gay just went on and talked about he resigned to play for Malone

[00:17:05] And doesn't mean he's a good coach. He was good. That doesn't mean they're headed in the right direction

[00:17:10] Actually might be in the opposite it might mean the opposite if that many players like you

[00:17:16] I think I'm just saying not everybody's leaving Miami. Not everybody's leaving Miami and

[00:17:23] San Antonio and singing popovich and spolsters praises

[00:17:27] Like some people have a bad time there

[00:17:31] Yeah, I

[00:17:33] Mean I just think

[00:17:36] Right now the Denver thing is new enough and

[00:17:39] It's not like we are a destination in the way that San Antonio and Miami were but let's get into the roster

[00:17:48] San Antonio

[00:17:51] San Antonio fans listen

[00:17:56] Texas no state income and you can't deny with Duncan Manu and Tony they got a lot of role players then it's a different

[00:18:04] Financial situation than it is now as far as like you could be a

[00:18:09] Middle player and make middle money. Whereas now it's like you either make an absolute shit ton or nothing. Thanks Chris Paul

[00:18:18] But

[00:18:20] Yeah, as far as our roster I

[00:18:24] Give our roster

[00:18:27] I'm gonna give it a B plus

[00:18:31] I

[00:18:32] think our

[00:18:34] Starters when healthy are still unbelievable and can still figure a lot of things out. I

[00:18:41] Think you can't be you talked about avoiding the prisoner of the moment. I think you can't judge Jamal Murray

[00:18:49] Based off the fact that he got locked up for long stretches on one leg

[00:18:54] Like that's him on one leg the best defensive team in the NBA right like KCP was clearly

[00:19:01] very hurt

[00:19:02] In this series and then I think the thing that keeps me from rating it higher is

[00:19:12] Really Reggie Jackson, I understand that we got him and the reason we got him last year

[00:19:19] Was because there was obviously a wink-wink deal with his agent that says we're going to resign you

[00:19:26] We're gonna guarantee that we're gonna do that because there's absolutely no reason after the performance he had

[00:19:32] Last year admittedly in a hard, you know situation coming in late in the season to pay him money and not Jeff Green

[00:19:41] There's no reason to do that

[00:19:43] so

[00:19:45] Unless I think Peyton Watson is gonna be really good that

[00:19:49] Absolutely killed us

[00:19:52] And I don't think there was a little bit of the Calvin booth playing money ball where he was like

[00:19:58] I'm gonna trade away the veteran you have to play the young guy. Yeah, and Malone said bet I won't

[00:20:06] But well, I think that he said just sit on the bench sit on the red

[00:20:12] Regular season. Yeah, Reggie Jackson

[00:20:16] Absolutely killed us and that's not Reggie Jackson's fault. Reggie Jackson is an older point guard

[00:20:23] He's a smaller point guard

[00:20:25] Everything in the history of the NBA has said that those guys don't age

[00:20:29] Well, we saw it even with Lillard this year in the Bucks

[00:20:33] He is obviously much better than I ever was but

[00:20:38] Reggie was never gonna be the microwave cooker

[00:20:41] That we needed off that bench. And if he's not that to me, that's the miscalculation you made

[00:20:50] With this roster and that's where you need to improve the most I

[00:20:54] 100% agree with you. I give the roster an a-minus because Nikola Jokic is such an a plus plus plus plus plus plus

[00:21:01] Plus plus plus plus that it just doesn't matter

[00:21:04] But Jamal Murray and him's fit is beautiful and fun to watch. I don't talk about Jamal Murray right now, but

[00:21:12] The

[00:21:14] the the Nikola the sorry the backup point guard Reggie Jackson problem is

[00:21:21] really an interesting one because

[00:21:23] I agree with you that we need scoring off the bench unit

[00:21:26] But I actually think that it's there and Reggie was trying to be that microwave scorer

[00:21:32] Like he thought he needed to create that on his own when really we create that that when that bench unit starts rolling

[00:21:38] They play a very similar style to the starters

[00:21:42] They just do it worse because Nikola is not on the floor

[00:21:45] so like the ball pops and it moves and they're cutting a lot like

[00:21:50] That was not the offense from Reggie Jackson had the ball it was like he dribbles down

[00:21:54] He drives that he kicks out to the corner. It's like the Earl Boykins offense like

[00:22:00] it just didn't work and

[00:22:04] Obviously like he's on the tail end of his career and

[00:22:08] It is what it is, but it's definitely the part of the roster that needs the most improvement

[00:22:12] I also think when we go back to the prisoner of the moment thing

[00:22:16] Everybody's talking about backup center and I agree we need a serviceable backup center like we we can't pay DJ

[00:22:22] to literally not play

[00:22:24] And not even be able to play in these

[00:22:29] Against it essentially like the one matchup where we would need DJ to play he couldn't play

[00:22:35] So that's that's kind of not great news

[00:22:39] But I also think like when I'm looking at this next series when I watch that first game of the Mav series

[00:22:45] I'm looking at that like

[00:22:47] What is that big man gonna do that? We're hypothetically paying

[00:22:51] when we

[00:22:52] When we face the Mavs like it's really we're talking about that big man for one team and one matchup

[00:22:59] And I agree like we just need somebody serviceable where Nikola could take a night off and literally not play and we could be fine

[00:23:06] but I

[00:23:08] do think we

[00:23:09] You know to me and I

[00:23:11] Don't want to get too much into this because I don't know enough about this draft class, but to me it's almost worth spending

[00:23:18] a draft pick on a

[00:23:20] Like one of these just huge guys and be like you're gonna run out there for five minutes and play some defense

[00:23:27] Like have fun buddy

[00:23:29] This is gonna be fine for you

[00:23:31] And as opposed to going out in the free agent market and sort of like overpaying for that that would worry me

[00:23:38] I think yeah, we go out and get somebody overqualified

[00:23:41] I don't like that

[00:23:43] No, they're not gonna be happy one and two

[00:23:48] I agree with you if you can get I

[00:23:52] Either one of those positions if you can get someone on the cheap

[00:23:56] The I've seen Andre Drummond throw floated a lot then sure

[00:24:00] Right, but if not, I agree with you you go young let them learn under him and

[00:24:07] We've seen that a lot

[00:24:10] Looking at the Mavs they just have young

[00:24:13] Athletic bodies out there and they say Luca's gonna put you in a good spot to do stuff and

[00:24:20] I would rather have a seven-day veteran guard

[00:24:25] Than a veteran center, and I think they're easier to find honestly. Yeah, like that's crazy to say but like

[00:24:32] We could go pick up Monte Morris from the wolves right now

[00:24:35] Like he doesn't play for them like I would have I would have liked Monte more than I like

[00:24:41] Reggie

[00:24:42] That's you know, that's weird to say because I think Monte is a way less talented player at both of their peaks

[00:24:48] But he's just he fits our system much better. So yeah, so I think

[00:24:54] We're both in agreement

[00:24:56] we need a bench that can eat more minutes during the regular season and

[00:25:01] We need guys who are an option to play five minutes and that's the improvement

[00:25:08] And then you hope you get injury luck and you hope those things and so part of this era of NBA we're in

[00:25:15] Yes, totally and I think part of this really does boil down to just the fact that like at a certain point

[00:25:23] That's just aging into the NBA

[00:25:26] Like our guys just get a year older and you get a lot better in that next year and

[00:25:30] Like Peyton Watson is gonna be better than he was

[00:25:34] This next year than he was last year. That's just hopefully the natural progression of really talented players

[00:25:40] so I

[00:25:42] I think it's it's an interesting

[00:25:46] It's an interesting time because I actually think this offseason is sort of underrated in terms of how important it is

[00:25:52] Like I think the the status of the dynasty may depend on

[00:25:58] this offseason

[00:26:00] In turn and I wanted I wanted to say that I think it's a theme that I took from

[00:26:06] the Avs runs and the Nuggets run is

[00:26:11] You it almost makes you appreciate the magic of those championship years for both teams more

[00:26:18] Because you realize you're like hey we had moments this year

[00:26:22] That were unbelievable

[00:26:24] But I don't think we ever fully felt it the same way for both teams in the way that when the Avs won the cup

[00:26:32] I was like we're winning the cup. I was like we are winning the cup. I don't care about the slump

[00:26:37] I don't care about anything when we lock in we're winning the cup and same thing for the Nuggets. I was like we

[00:26:45] Nuggets it was harder because I have so much history of failure

[00:26:49] But it was still like

[00:26:52] Nug life is always hard to get over. Yeah, we're gonna win. It's a lifelong disease. Trust me

[00:26:58] Oh it is but so it almost makes me appreciate the magic

[00:27:04] That it almost takes as far as you need some breaks

[00:27:07] You need to stay healthy you need to not do drugs in your hotel room right before game six

[00:27:13] You just you know small things that come up

[00:27:19] If I can't say I I was about to defend Val. Oh my

[00:27:29] But he was playing I guess to close. Why not celebrate I guess

[00:27:35] But I

[00:27:36] Guess to close here. I still feel the best if you told me a

[00:27:43] Colorado team is going to win a championship in five years and it's only one of them

[00:27:48] I would pick the Nuggets. I

[00:27:52] Was texting with a friend of the pod today Dez

[00:27:56] shout out Dez loyal listener, we'll see if she actually is and

[00:28:01] She'll text me

[00:28:05] But I said

[00:28:08] Today like it's hard for me to get too pissed off at the Nuggets because I do feel like this was really like

[00:28:16] It was such high-level basketball it felt a lot like a final series

[00:28:23] Honestly, so I think you know, it's it's disappointing obviously and I'm not happy about it, but it is also like

[00:28:30] If you would have told us when we got those season tickets however many years ago that we would have one banner

[00:28:37] We would have taken it

[00:28:39] You know, I was texting with another friend of the pod Scott today and I was like, you know

[00:28:46] I'm greedy like I'm pissed off because I'm greedy now. I want more

[00:28:51] And he said you've always been that way. So

[00:28:55] Shout out Scott. All right, let's move into our second team

[00:29:00] And I think this team is the second most likely and in the second best spot the Colorado Avalanche

[00:29:06] Ownership I would give them the same grade here

[00:29:10] I think

[00:29:12] Not not a whole lot to talk about they're owned by the same team or same people I think that the Cronkies have

[00:29:21] Shown the same amount of interest

[00:29:24] Except that Josh doesn't like the hockey as much as basketball was and so I was gonna say Lee were spot

[00:29:30] I would give you were gonna plus. Yeah

[00:29:33] Yeah, sure. That sounds good to me

[00:29:36] I

[00:29:38] Think they

[00:29:41] The

[00:29:43] Absor it's a slightly lower grade for me because if they're gonna make cuts if they're gonna get cheap on us

[00:29:49] They're gonna get cheap on the abs because Josh loves basketball like he I

[00:29:54] Listen to the him go on Michael Porter jr's podcast and he just I mean he loves basketball

[00:30:00] So yeah, it's they're gonna get cheap on the abs if they do and obviously the NHL is just a

[00:30:06] It's a less valued league. So makes sense for them to do that. But

[00:30:10] It does suck if you're an Atom's fan

[00:30:13] Yeah, all right

[00:30:16] Let's get into coaching also altitude like we can't bring that up enough when we talk about the Cronkies

[00:30:22] They suck. They're just terrible. Yeah

[00:30:27] All right coaching so

[00:30:30] You're not gonna get me to say anything bad about Jared. He is the most handsome man in the world

[00:30:37] A plus a he's an a plus

[00:30:40] Coaching

[00:30:43] C- oh

[00:30:45] No, you are no no how I am flipped like this

[00:30:53] This is what's wild to me allow me to make my case and then you can come in and you can end us on a

[00:30:59] More positive note here

[00:31:00] I honestly think I might have to mute you because I've worried that this is gonna be a how I met your mother

[00:31:06] moment when the glass shatters and like the attractiveness has been

[00:31:11] Clouding my vision of his actual coaching prowess

[00:31:15] And I don't want I don't need that to be ruined

[00:31:18] It's really the only positive part about this this Colorado sports team right now is just looking at Jared

[00:31:25] so

[00:31:27] It's kind of like what you were saying about Malone

[00:31:33] Except it's McKinnon and McCarr

[00:31:37] When is my guy just schemed up or like fired up a second line or a fourth line and

[00:31:45] It just kind of appears like he's like well, we have McCarran McKinnon. So

[00:31:51] They're pretty good

[00:31:53] Like we talked about it going into game six and I was like we can't get McKinnon loose. We can't get him going

[00:32:01] That's on a coach

[00:32:03] that's on a coach to

[00:32:05] Either

[00:32:07] you come out in a press conference and it cuz I do think McKinnon is the kind of guy that you can talk stuff to and

[00:32:14] He'll be like I'll take that and I will fire me up

[00:32:19] Like I think it's I think it's okay to say

[00:32:23] Heading into game six you go. Well, maybe McKinnon's probably been about

[00:32:28] the third or fourth best player in the series and we're gonna have a tough time if he's

[00:32:33] the third or fourth best player and

[00:32:35] Then McKinnon comes out with his hair on fire in game six

[00:32:40] He flips you off the whole game probably but that's kind of your job as the coach to your point

[00:32:45] You I just don't think you don't think Malone could have done that with Murray

[00:32:50] No, I think Murray's leg was screwed

[00:32:55] So I just don't think that he makes

[00:33:01] People better

[00:33:02] Than what they would be otherwise and he is the perfect

[00:33:07] Kind of players coach in terms of he never gets too high. He never gets too low, right?

[00:33:14] Like I can't even picture him giving a Mike Malone press conference where Mike Malone was like

[00:33:20] Well, we aren't playing championship basketball. Like he said that multiple times during the playoffs. He was pissed during the Lakers season

[00:33:28] Like series sometimes and he will call guys out and he'll say hey, you know what?

[00:33:33] This wasn't good enough tonight and I was pissed and you see him rage timeout and we laugh about it in our section

[00:33:40] I never see him just being like

[00:33:45] Well, you know what?

[00:33:47] McKinnon sucked tonight. McCarr sucked tonight

[00:33:50] and so

[00:33:52] The team's probably gonna follow those two guys

[00:33:54] So, you know that's just when they play like a bunch of hands each other though, that's like

[00:34:00] Nobody nobody in hockey really does that it's all

[00:34:04] All the boys in the locker room

[00:34:06] They really we just stuck together and it's all next man up

[00:34:10] and if you don't say us eight times it doesn't really count as a press conference and

[00:34:16] You don't I'm not saying there's not positives to being a even keel

[00:34:22] Kind of just like hey, we don't need to panic. We don't need to do whatever but

[00:34:27] Because there are some times where Mike have you thought about what how calming it would be to just look into his eyes now

[00:34:34] they put

[00:34:35] Listen, I just don't think he adds a lot at this point and

[00:34:41] I can't think of a game

[00:34:46] That I go he won that for us either. He got the guy fired up or he got in the

[00:34:53] The officials or he gotten that you know, like probably a line change. He made a good adjustment

[00:34:59] I can't think of one and

[00:35:02] I think this team needs more than that. I can't imagine needing more than Jared

[00:35:09] Will agree to disagree. What's your grade for Jared?

[00:35:13] A-plus I already gave it. Oh my god. I thought you were me

[00:35:17] That's a patently ridiculous

[00:35:20] Alright, let's get into the roster

[00:35:25] Can't go lower than a B for a roster that has McKinnon and McCarr

[00:35:33] Generational talent I will say unless they change that rule

[00:35:42] Sackett should start cheating

[00:35:44] Do what the lightning do do what the Knights did start cheating

[00:35:50] Put those guys on injured reserve

[00:35:53] Sign guys in head into the playoffs heavy

[00:35:57] I

[00:35:58] think we've also been a little too focused on

[00:36:04] Finding guys to fit in with our top lines rather than just saying

[00:36:10] hey, this guy can run a third line and

[00:36:14] I

[00:36:16] Didn't feel at any point during this playoffs like ah, we're really threatening out there

[00:36:22] With this second or third line and I brought it up during the season. I was concerned about all season

[00:36:28] So that to me is where we need to improve

[00:36:31] The beauty of having generational talents

[00:36:35] Isn't putting all the pieces around them. It's that you go

[00:36:40] Hey, we can put three decent skaters around those two guys and that line is gonna score

[00:36:48] because

[00:36:49] they are gonna score and

[00:36:51] We can thus use more capital to be deeper and to just wear you and grind you and now all of a sudden

[00:36:59] If you don't have a ton of defensemen you have to

[00:37:04] Run them longer against the second and they don't get to rest

[00:37:07] So now mckinnon speed is coming down at you now

[00:37:11] McCarr is coming at you and you don't just get to be fresh because you were like

[00:37:15] Well, we had Joe fucking schmo over here and so I could sleep when mckinnon was off the ice, right?

[00:37:23] so depth to me is is the answer here and

[00:37:28] kind of looking at lower down the lines and

[00:37:31] guys who are

[00:37:33] Kind of coming in with the attitude. It felt like on the Stanley Cup team those third and fourth line guys. I

[00:37:41] Feel like they got in fights with the first and second line guys in practice and they were like pussy

[00:37:48] They're like that's we'll score on you. I don't do shit like I really makes teams better

[00:37:54] Yeah, I think you're you're spot-on in terms of like that top line doesn't need anything

[00:37:59] Like you could put you could put you and I skating with McCarr and mckinnon and we'd probably score a goal

[00:38:04] Like we're not gonna make it to the blue line, but no and I will die the first check I take

[00:38:10] They'll be like well the homicide really got you down. I'm not taking a check

[00:38:16] I'm laying down before a check comes like I'm not that's crazy talk

[00:38:23] I was it distracting when you heard Kyle and Ryan crying

[00:38:30] We're waving to the bench

[00:38:32] I

[00:38:33] Come on come on

[00:38:36] Granny style skating

[00:38:41] It's the first time that anybody has ever missed eight shifts in a row in a hockey game

[00:38:48] They seem to just be weeping oh

[00:38:52] openly

[00:38:53] but I

[00:38:55] Want a line I want physicality this team needs physicality and I think you find that on those third and fourth line guys

[00:39:03] You need somebody

[00:39:05] It's not even that the top line isn't physical because they are but it's not really with their bodies

[00:39:11] They're just so fast that they just can

[00:39:14] skate with you for the entire length of the rink like it's it's not a

[00:39:19] There they're putting a lot of pressure on you, but it's not

[00:39:23] Physical pressure I want somebody to go lean on a motherfucker in front of the net for

[00:39:29] six minutes of

[00:39:31] Real time for those back to be able to hold the puck in

[00:39:34] How many times did it feel like the puck was in our end all the time against the Stars and not necessarily?

[00:39:40] Super threatening but just you couldn't get it out. You couldn't get it out

[00:39:44] You couldn't get it out and that's how the ads used to feel where it was just like you're under pressure all the time

[00:39:51] When you look at these teams too

[00:39:52] They're just bigger than us like a lot of these lines are just straight-up physically bigger than us

[00:39:58] so I think that's the type of depth I'd be looking at and

[00:40:03] But Joe Sackett is fine great general manager

[00:40:07] needs to bring in

[00:40:10] Claude Lemieux as a consultant for the third and fourth lines. He'll be like Claude. Who do you like?

[00:40:17] Probably like ah, this guy's gonna dig a puck out in the corner

[00:40:21] Sackett can find a skater and a really skilled player

[00:40:25] Claude will find a guy who will drop gloves and who will

[00:40:30] Who's willing to die to hold a puck in with 17 minutes left in the second period of a Tuesday game in February?

[00:40:38] He's gonna take that blocked shot off the skate

[00:40:42] Yeah, and skate with his cracked ankle for five and a half minutes of ice time. Yeah

[00:40:49] What's your overall grade for the roster? I'm giving it a B

[00:40:54] I'll go P plus. Yeah, that feels Kail is so good

[00:41:00] Like when that top line is humming

[00:41:02] We also didn't mention in this whole thing that we haven't had our captain who's been on our payroll this entire time

[00:41:09] Yeah, and probably is never gonna play competitive hockey again. I think he has a press conference coming up

[00:41:14] No, he went out today and he said if he was gonna retire he would have dressed nicer

[00:41:19] So the the saga continues

[00:41:23] We still will pay him

[00:41:25] Yeah, I mean that's that's brutal like it that is a huge huge

[00:41:31] Burden right now. So it's honestly pretty incredible that the team looks as good as they do with that

[00:41:39] salary cap

[00:41:41] Yeah being what it is

[00:41:43] And it's not really his fault. I'm not blaming Gabe. No, no, no, no, no

[00:41:47] I hope he comes back and proves me wrong

[00:41:52] For sure, all right, let's move along we've got the Broncos up next

[00:41:59] Who are the third most likely to win a championship only because we have the Rockies

[00:42:04] Not cuz they're close

[00:42:06] I'm interested. This to me is the most owners interesting ownership group. I

[00:42:14] Think I'm gonna give them a B plus. I

[00:42:17] Think they're the best ownership group because they're insanely rich. I haven't heard him say anything

[00:42:27] Exceptionally wild

[00:42:29] Like they don't go on a weekly

[00:42:32] Hit with Schlereth and Evans talking about the starting quarterback a la Jerry Jones and

[00:42:40] They're not actively a human pile of excrement like Dan Snyder. So

[00:42:47] I think that's good. And I think that they've invested in obviously facilities

[00:42:53] You know, they've paid Peyton who I think is a good mind still

[00:43:01] Not George to be clear Sean

[00:43:04] So okay give them that and that's kind of all I can do

[00:43:09] No, give me a break. Okay. I honestly I think I'm the most I think I'm the most frustrated by this ownership group

[00:43:16] I haven't decided if it's gonna be a C minus or D plus

[00:43:20] But they paid Russell Wilson sight unseen

[00:43:25] Immediately after they took over the team without him playing a single game

[00:43:29] They gave him that contract in training camp, which was this ownership group. That was the general manager though

[00:43:36] Then they got cucked by the oh, I'm bringing him up next. They got cucked by the brain of Pat Bolan

[00:43:45] By retaining the guy that the previous ownership group had George Peyton

[00:43:52] They retained him after they took over the team

[00:43:57] and

[00:43:58] So this whole Russell Wilson saga, they don't get out of that

[00:44:02] That was under their watch like you made this team what it is right now

[00:44:07] And so you don't get a pass on that. I don't care how rich you are. I don't care how

[00:44:12] Nice you seem first of all, you got rich from Walmart. So like that seems like a bad place to get rich from

[00:44:20] But that's pretty much every honor

[00:44:22] Also condoleezza rice is a war criminal

[00:44:26] and I

[00:44:28] Mean need to cut that and Lewis Hamilton hasn't won a race in years

[00:44:35] Yeah, so I just don't know if I

[00:44:40] I just don't think that they should get a get a pass here

[00:44:44] I think that this they they have spent money where they have made mistakes

[00:44:49] But that is honestly, it's it's Monfort behavior like

[00:44:54] The Monfort spend money. They just do it incredibly poorly

[00:44:59] So until you can prove to me that you're spending money on the right things. I'm not gonna give you a good grade here

[00:45:05] You've talked me into lowering it

[00:45:08] Because you are correct, I don't think that the

[00:45:13] Russell Wilson

[00:45:15] signing is on them, but I think retaining George Payton after that and

[00:45:20] Allowing him to draft this year and do the trade deadline and then keeping him right now. I

[00:45:26] Think that's inexcusable

[00:45:29] We're gonna get bow nicks like bone nicks is on their head now

[00:45:33] Yes, and I think that's okay that's you talk to me it I'm lowering hiring because we thought we were gonna get Aaron Rogers

[00:45:42] see

[00:45:43] see

[00:45:45] See for me final for you. See minus or D plus

[00:45:51] I'm gonna go D plus just cuz I hate Russell Wilson so much. Yeah. Yeah. All right coach

[00:45:59] Man

[00:46:01] Mixed bag here

[00:46:05] Sean I

[00:46:08] Think had some moments

[00:46:11] During the season where I was like, wow. He is

[00:46:15] Really?

[00:46:16] making

[00:46:17] pie out of poo here

[00:46:21] But I

[00:46:23] Do think he has a huge ego. I think

[00:46:27] He has proved to be

[00:46:32] Maybe not the best

[00:46:34] Maybe could take a page out of Mike Malone's book as far as dealing with players

[00:46:41] Here in Denver or out of Jared's book, honestly, yeah, he just needs to chill like it's do less

[00:46:48] that is true a

[00:46:50] Jared Bednar press conference from Sean Payton would not hurt him

[00:46:55] I thought he did a good job today. He talked about he said hey Corlyn Sutton's a worker

[00:47:01] I I know he's a great player. He's a great leader

[00:47:03] So I'm not worried about that right like don't throw gasoline on that. Don't do any of that, but there were too many times

[00:47:12] Where he was trying to make himself the main character

[00:47:16] Be it before the season when he was just crapping on Nathaniel Hackett

[00:47:23] Be it when he was lighting up

[00:47:29] You know the team and everyone and taking no accountability for his own mistakes and being a coward

[00:47:36] for some of the losses

[00:47:40] So

[00:47:42] Schematically, I would give Peyton

[00:47:46] like a b-plus

[00:47:48] Management wise and like locker room

[00:47:54] See

[00:47:55] So I'm gonna go

[00:47:57] be minus be minus for Peyton

[00:48:01] I think he's and that I do think there's a chance that if this bone nicks thing goes a little sideways. I

[00:48:09] Think there's a chance we see some real ugly Kurt

[00:48:14] Napoleon bone apart little guys stuff and

[00:48:17] It is

[00:48:21] That's the worst-case scenario because you are paying him so much money and you've given him so much power

[00:48:27] We talked about it after the draft drafting bone nicks is saying

[00:48:32] Sean Peyton is running this for all intents and purposes

[00:48:35] He's the most powerful person in the room as far as the ownership hierarchy goes

[00:48:41] So yeah, I'd give him a B minus what do you think I can't believe you're gonna give him a B minus after he japted

[00:48:50] bone X

[00:48:53] It's just I don't know enough I hate bone a

[00:48:57] Yeah, and while you were talking I was almost tempted to give him an incomplete

[00:49:03] Because I just feel like his like that roster was so bad

[00:49:08] And yeah, like all the arrogant stuff like makes me mad when you're losing

[00:49:14] But if if they win a bunch of games, it's gonna be really fun when he goes out and talk shit to everybody. Yeah

[00:49:21] so I

[00:49:23] I'm tempted by an incomplete

[00:49:27] So I

[00:49:31] It's weird if I had to give him but if I had to give them a grade the short it would be really low

[00:49:40] Yeah, I mean if I had to give him one I'd probably give him a C minus

[00:49:44] Okay, because I just don't think that that bone X decision was good and I think the way that he handled last season was terrible

[00:49:52] And that's partly just his personality and I think he was doing it on purpose like he yeah

[00:49:58] I think he hated everybody when that preseason stuff came out was like

[00:50:02] I know Sean Peyton and Sean Peyton does not do anything by accident

[00:50:06] So he knew exactly what he was doing when he said that shit to USA Today like he he knew what he was doing so

[00:50:14] But it didn't work so I

[00:50:17] well, I guess it did work and if his goal was to lose a bunch of money and lose a bunch of games and

[00:50:24] Make Russell Wilson disappear. But yeah, it's I don't hate your point of like the incomplete as far as like

[00:50:32] It was so obvious he did not believe in Russell Wilson and openly hated him that

[00:50:40] Like

[00:50:41] It makes me like him more. Yeah, I was surprised you were so low on him, but I don't think we've seen

[00:50:49] the

[00:50:51] He was just such an asshole about it

[00:50:53] Yeah

[00:50:53] Like he was he was so he had some Lance Armstrong behavior while he was doping there where it was like do you have

[00:51:00] Say that like Jesus dude, like we all know you are getting away with some heinous things behind the scenes here

[00:51:07] But like yeah, you don't know that we're wrong when we know you were right

[00:51:14] You don't have to get mad at us for asking questions about whether you hate Russell Wilson when you

[00:51:19] Definitely hate Russell Wilson when you were a teacher says I hate Russell Wilson

[00:51:24] I think it's reasonable to ask about your t-shirt

[00:51:28] When Lance Armstrong is riding away from the most doped up peloton in world history

[00:51:33] He's getting upset that people are asking him if he's doing drugs. It's like wow

[00:51:37] I mean you did do the thing so I don't know Sean

[00:51:45] All right roster

[00:51:49] This is I

[00:51:52] Would give this roster an F

[00:51:55] But I'm reserving that for the Rockies in a sneak preview and

[00:52:00] They're

[00:52:02] Just having Pat Surtain on this roster

[00:52:05] Makes it better than the Rockies. So I'm gonna give it a D minus

[00:52:11] They have gotten rid of a lot of good players

[00:52:16] We still have Garrett Bowles. We have bone nicks. I

[00:52:21] Saw today and I unironically started laughing so that I didn't start crying

[00:52:29] because

[00:52:30] Brian Edwards who God bless him. He does a great job. I interned under him at the fan. He's a good guy

[00:52:38] He's at KOA now

[00:52:39] So he's just reporting on the quarterback situation and he was doing it in an irony free

[00:52:47] Very straight reporter way, but he was like I thought Bo Nicks overall was good

[00:52:54] He did have some missed throws, but I thought he was overall good. Ah

[00:53:00] Zach Wilson was the most

[00:53:03] erratic of the

[00:53:05] And he's like Stidham made some great checkdowns

[00:53:10] I'm like, oh

[00:53:13] Jesus

[00:53:14] Like it was the funniest breakdown of just like the three

[00:53:19] Stooges that we're gonna have I think that's what we should call them and throughout training camp

[00:53:26] We should just Dan get the three stooges music so we can just get a do

[00:53:36] There's Zach out there today, oh he was really getting after it

[00:53:45] Yeah

[00:53:47] It's it's like they're both trying to kick each other in the butt poke each other in the eyes

[00:53:52] It's it'd be so funny if we weren't trying to win games

[00:53:57] So yeah, we're not trying to win games well, I want us to win games

[00:54:02] I'm giving this roster enough. I don't actually think that this roster is better than the Rockies roster

[00:54:09] They're just more games of the Rockies. So we're inundated by the suck all the time

[00:54:15] We're not inundated by the suck of the Broncos for as long of a time

[00:54:20] Okay, but so I think that's certain is the best at his position

[00:54:24] There is absolutely no one on the Rockies who is the best at their position

[00:54:30] But there are not even top ten players on the roster of the Broncos

[00:54:35] Like if we go top to bottom the bottom player on the

[00:54:40] The active roster for the Broncos is way worse than the bottom player for the Rockies on their roster Drew Sanders

[00:54:50] Tearing his ACL is also

[00:54:52] Just objectively terrible after we

[00:54:56] Traded away our one milk check to get him more reps

[00:55:01] so now I think that this I

[00:55:03] Honestly think that this might be the start of a curse

[00:55:07] I

[00:55:08] Don't know what we did to be fair except bring Russell Wilson

[00:55:13] Yeah, the curse might be the curse of Russell Wilson. I'll put we yeah

[00:55:18] We can we should make a t-shirt or something. I heard that's how all these podcasts make money. I

[00:55:24] Like that DMV are I know you're still listening. Yeah

[00:55:33] I

[00:55:38] Like for God's sake I just don't in the Rockies were kind of a feeder podcast

[00:55:43] You know, they just take our good ideas and feed them up to the majors

[00:55:51] Yeah, this roster sucks I'm giving them an F and I'm really not looking forward to this year

[00:55:56] I'm I am looking forward to being a closet Dolphins fan the whole time though. I mean

[00:56:02] Honestly, I don't care if you root for both teams. I just want you to root for the Broncos

[00:56:08] Yeah, I mean I want good things. I'm gonna talk myself into bone X somehow

[00:56:13] God, I can't wait to talk myself into bone X and predict us to win ten games. I can't wait for that to happen

[00:56:19] We all know that Raiders do it Ryan

[00:56:28] I haven't I haven't done my oh man, that's you there's

[00:56:33] Yeah

[00:56:35] Yeah, we'll see what happens and that's gonna be the other thing that makes it hard to

[00:56:42] Like grade Peyton because you're gonna be like well, we're worse than this team at every position

[00:56:47] So we should lose so if we lose by seven does that mean he's doing a great job

[00:56:54] Because we probably should have lost by 21. I don't know. I don't think that makes it hard though. I think it's

[00:57:01] I'm not sure it's that hard to analyze. I think that when

[00:57:06] When you draft bone next when you take that swing you're graded now on bone X so

[00:57:11] He

[00:57:13] He as you mentioned makes so much money that we're not gonna be able to pin that solely on him

[00:57:19] And Peyton will lose his job. I predict after the next year when bone X looks like shit in the last six games of

[00:57:26] the year

[00:57:28] Peyton will happily hand that

[00:57:31] chalice over to

[00:57:33] To Peyton and he will get it's so hard at their last names Sean will fire the GM

[00:57:40] I guess is what I'm saying. Yeah, so

[00:57:44] All right

[00:57:44] I I just I think that that's that's not gonna turn out well for him

[00:57:48] If you told me that one of these teams won a championship and it was the Denver Broncos I

[00:57:54] would

[00:57:56] faint in the next five years like I would literally faint and

[00:58:01] Then I'd get so excited because that means we have like bone X is dirty

[00:58:06] It means he's really good the next only way

[00:58:11] No, I think I I think you could be a little bit more glass half full about it

[00:58:15] Because think about how bad the Rams were before they won that Super Bowl

[00:58:19] Like the NFL if you do say f them picks like the Rams did and we already did so we kind of with the Rams

[00:58:26] We're in a Super Bowl two years before with golf, right and he peed down his leg against Belichick

[00:58:32] But yeah, but like they have talent before I

[00:58:38] Guess they were terrible that year before yeah, but I don't know

[00:58:41] I just think the NFL does turn around quickly if you can draft

[00:58:45] Well, that's the key is like can you pick up cheap good players that Matt then you can develop like and we just have

[00:58:52] Shown zero way to do that. Like the last time we won a championship was was Peyton Manning's corpse

[00:58:58] so we haven't developed anybody in a

[00:59:00] Decade or more. Yeah, it's pretty bad

[00:59:04] All right. Let's get to the sad sack team of the franchise

[00:59:09] our

[00:59:12] Littlest littlest brother the Colorado Rockies

[00:59:17] This isn't gonna take me along

[00:59:21] The ownership is an F. Okay, they're the worst owners

[00:59:26] We've gone over it many times

[00:59:28] They

[00:59:30] Just hire yes men from within because anyone with half a brain can tell that they are functional morons and

[00:59:38] so

[00:59:39] Their only interview question is do you think I'm the stupidest person on earth and if the person says yes

[00:59:46] They don't hire them and if the person says maybe they get a second interview and if the person says no

[00:59:54] Instantly hired and that's how we've hired our last general managers and

[01:00:00] Surprisingly, it's not working out. So yeah, this ownership group is shit. I hope they sell the team

[01:00:07] Montfort sucks

[01:00:09] Yeah

[01:00:11] It's it's an F for me as well. However, I will give the caveat that they get a B plus as

[01:00:18] Real estate developers. Oh which is their actual gig

[01:00:22] And the I personally hate McGregor Square and that they're tearing down that jazz club

[01:00:29] I think they're real pieces of shit

[01:00:32] and making my city look like

[01:00:35] fucking Dallas

[01:00:38] But yeah, they're terrible at owning a baseball team. They've never been good at it and they never will be good at it

[01:00:45] They will only luck into success. So they're also never gonna sell the team. So we're just doomed

[01:00:52] I

[01:00:53] Just wanted to give you a shout out for working in a dig at Dallas. I like that from you

[01:01:00] F you Dallas how dare you be in the Western Conference finals in both sports

[01:01:06] Screw you

[01:01:07] Okay, who are you? Who are you reading? Who are you rooting for in that Western Conference series by the way, just give me your

[01:01:15] Everyone to step on a Lego and

[01:01:17] Not be able to play

[01:01:20] He texted a

[01:01:22] Group chat that I'm in who asked me how I felt about the series that I said that nobody wins

[01:01:28] I hope nobody wins

[01:01:32] All right

[01:01:34] This one is the hardest one to analyze for me

[01:01:39] coach or manager as

[01:01:41] They're called here

[01:01:44] I'm not gonna be good or not to go first our toll team sucks

[01:01:49] Do you want me to go first? Yeah, sure go first. He gets an F to what the whole franchise sucks

[01:01:56] He he pinch ran

[01:02:03] The guy isn't the it starts at the top and it trickles all the way down

[01:02:08] This is truly Reaganomics of a franchise

[01:02:11] the idiocy is just it must be contagious in that building because

[01:02:15] It is I went to a homecoming there and trust me I felt dumber afterwards

[01:02:21] You're probably right. Okay, I'm going with you on F

[01:02:25] Because if you had other options other than the Rockies

[01:02:30] Like who's that the Savannah bananas being a general manager being the manager for them has to be better

[01:02:37] Than being the Rockies like well blood boy doesn't have a personality though

[01:02:42] He can't be it Savannah's too fun for him he'd have to like no I think that would be great

[01:02:47] What if bud black was just like played it straight like and he just was fucking mad

[01:02:53] Well, you're game

[01:02:55] You wouldn't be playing

[01:02:57] Be like I don't get the joke

[01:02:59] Will you just swing and then and then they could put a banana peel out there and he would be running to try

[01:03:06] To stop them and slip on the banana peel every game

[01:03:10] So yeah, you're right anyone who would willingly work for Monfort

[01:03:16] Must have no other options in life

[01:03:18] like

[01:03:20] Truly down on your luck sort of situation

[01:03:23] Or he has the best work-life balance because he's like dude. I the greatest job in sports

[01:03:29] He's like I just like it every day in the dugout

[01:03:33] It's like being a college coach for an athletic director that doesn't care except you get paid MLB money

[01:03:39] like

[01:03:41] There there's no oversight. I want to see his credit card bills

[01:03:45] I want to see his expense a lot of shooters Ryan those hotel bars are not safe

[01:03:52] Because if you had a hundred and sixty two games

[01:03:58] With this team you can't be sober for it. There's no way

[01:04:03] And then the roster is it f-

[01:04:07] It's absolute trash

[01:04:14] Yeah, we're unbelievably bad I don't get super excited about anybody

[01:04:22] I'm starting to talk myself into Gombor. I'm

[01:04:26] Kind of starting to feel a little sort of way

[01:04:31] Not that he's actually gonna be good here

[01:04:34] But like I might get excited about him on the Yankees or Red Sox in a few years in the playoffs

[01:04:39] It'd be like hey, we used to have him

[01:04:42] And that sort of away. So yeah

[01:04:47] This team's a dumpster fire

[01:04:51] Yeah, my my favorite player unfortunately has been sent down due to knee

[01:04:58] Inflammation in Nolan Ryan or what? What's his name Nolan Jones?

[01:05:04] Nolan is

[01:05:06] Fuck it. Mothra probably did try to hire Nolan Ryan

[01:05:11] He's like I heard of this pictures Nolan Ryan this guy really throws heat. I was watching some film on him the other day

[01:05:20] Nolan loves to strike out and I love to bet on it

[01:05:24] So that's why he's my favorite player and he's

[01:05:28] Yeah, I just looked it up. He was in triple-a. I hadn't seen him on the roster

[01:05:32] so I hadn't been betting on any Rockies games and I

[01:05:37] Just saw that his rehab was halted due to right knee soreness

[01:05:40] So I don't know if he's gonna be making a back up swinging big and missing you'll love to see it

[01:05:47] All right, that's the podcast

[01:05:49] I

[01:05:52] Hopefully we brought some joy

[01:05:54] This was like the actual start state of the union where we got like

[01:05:58] Rackets applause throughout this and it was actually like two and a half hours long and then there would be like we would

[01:06:06] Food me I think with some of our statements

[01:06:11] Here

[01:06:13] But you know what

[01:06:16] Shoot or shoot

[01:06:18] And I hope that we brought a little joy

[01:06:21] into this dark time as a

[01:06:24] Colorado sports fan and know that we're gonna get through it together and

[01:06:30] This is we have two really good teams sports fans and we have two really

[01:06:35] Funnily bad teams and one of them plays in a beautiful stadium where you can go for really cheap. So

[01:06:43] Buck up you could live in Dallas

[01:06:46] And your life would be way worse so

[01:06:51] be thankful that you live in beautiful, Colorado and

[01:06:56] We'll talk to you next week

[01:06:58] Except if you're from Dallas and you live in Denver. Don't be thankful. We hate you go home

[01:07:05] fine

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