Rookie Hype

[00:00:00] The Blucifer Brothers are back. We're talking Broncos mini camp. Then we're talking about our top five rookies. I'm giving it to Ryan Mylist and he's saying if there's any that I missed most fun rookie seasons in Colorado sports history during my 36 years of life.

[00:00:19] Plus what does Chris Stapps think of Putin? We won't be talking about that. Dan play that funky music. All right. We are here. Last night, the Denver Nuggets were NBA champions, but it's a beautiful Monday

[00:00:42] night. We are going to go through the Broncos mini camp and we're talking exciting rookies, the most exciting rookies in our lifetime in Denver sports in honor of Bo Nix. Uh, I'm excited for the show. Well, in honor of the discourse.

[00:01:02] Uh, the man you heard incredulous as always to my left, but now right to my left, not through a screen. Uh, my brother Ryan, Ryan, how are you doing, buddy? Uh, we're doing great. Um, you know, headed to the land of our enemy Nasrid tomorrow.

[00:01:20] Um, but other than that, uh, you know, it should be a good trip. I, I don't actually hold any L well towards the Timberwolves. Uh, I'll tell you who does Adam silver. Why is that?

[00:01:34] Like he's like, we could add a Luca and Yokech and then Yokech could have beaten them and then we could actually had more than one competitive NBA finals game. Yeah. He said, Hey Anthony, can you tell me if you're going to poop your pants

[00:01:47] in the next round, if you're going to take out a marketable, uh, star. Thank you. Um, it was tough for me, but no, I'm doing well. Great. I have, I have been consuming a lot of Broncos content.

[00:01:59] I was going to bring it up and we have been warp speed and I think we're both on the same page. Tell me how you went into it. I see obviously the discourse. I went into it with hate in my heart. I, I tried.

[00:02:15] I, I said to myself, I was like, okay, don't be married to our takes. Right? Like it's annoying when personalities get married to a take looking at you, Nick. Right. Uh, and so you just keep saying a negative thing because you've said it in the past, right.

[00:02:28] And you don't accept reality. So I was like, you know what? Maybe Dan's right. Maybe I just need to go in and like, why not be excited, right? Like let's get excited. And then I see what we're trying to get excited about.

[00:02:47] I'm like, ah, I'm not getting excited yet. I'm not any less excited to be clear, but I'm not anymore. Why not? Because I mean, it's not like I've seen him be bad against live defense. Hold on. Okay. He looks fine throwing against no defensive linemen's two

[00:03:03] uncovered wide receivers. I thought that looked fine, but I'm not excited about it, but I'm not going to hold it against him that he hit Gorland sudden in the hands. Unguarded. That's the drill. Yeah. Right. But I guess my, to make it really a pointed question, I

[00:03:18] listened to a lot of things as we, as we referenced. Uh, I was really, I was, I was in the takes. I was, I was listening to a lot of people make a lot of takes and it seems like the consensus in the Broncos podcast community is that

[00:03:36] he should be our starter week one. And I am here to tell you that that might be the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard in my life. They, the amount of rookie quarterbacks who succeed when they're just thrown to

[00:03:55] the wolves in their first, in their first season with an offensive lie that is terrible. The list is zero. There are no successful quarterbacks like that. You literally have to develop. So if, and everybody agrees that Stidham has looked better in mini camp.

[00:04:14] Everybody's like, actually, you know, who looks pretty good is Karen Stidham. So start him. What are we talking about? Start the guy who has actual NFL experience, let him get destroyed by the offensive line in the first six weeks. He's going to get hurt.

[00:04:34] This offensive line is terrible. There's no way that anybody's going to stay healthy. And then we can naturally go into the Bonyx era, which will also be bad. Yeah. I haven't picked up every year. I pick up the Warren Sharp, a longtime listener of the pod know that

[00:04:52] I love a Warren Sharp as an NFL analyst. I thought you were going to say Warren Sharp is a long time listener of the pod, which is also true. Right. Of course. Uh, he, I haven't picked up his book yet, uh, but he always finds,

[00:05:05] you know, like these stats that when he says them, you're like, of course that makes sense, but I wouldn't have thought to like delve into that. He's the David Foster Wallace of, uh, NFL stats. If I had to guess the statistics for starting a rookie quarterback

[00:05:24] with a first year starting center, I would predict they're not good because that means the other guy doesn't know when the blitz is coming and the guy who's supposed to be audibling to tell him the blitz is coming also doesn't know the blitz is coming.

[00:05:40] I feel like an underrated part of a rookie quarterback would have been having cushion Barry and being like, Hey, he knows the room. He knows the offense. He knows the things maybe we'll say, Hey, we're going to pay you a little

[00:05:54] bit more than we think you're worth because we're going to put a little extra on you protection wise, but I agree with you, Ryan. How do you feel about the smoke? Get him murdered. How do you feel about the smoke being blown up your ass though?

[00:06:09] Like it's not, it's not just that they're coming out there and saying like, Hey, you know, it's going to be a jerk. Like every rookie is, is, uh, you know, there's a development process that happens. They're not saying they're not tempering expectations.

[00:06:27] Nobody's like, Oh, you know, he's looked okay. Sean Payton is out there showing his ass for the guy. Like, Hey, you know, I see a lot of comparisons between him and drill. Like, what are you talking about?

[00:06:42] You know who else hit guys right in the hands when there were no defenders and no defensive linemen right over the middle drew breeze. And you know, a bow did today, the same thing. All right. So thus far I would say they look similar.

[00:06:54] And he's, he's, I mean, I don't think I, I pray that Sean Payton has the balls enough to start Stidham because that contract should give you that freedom. I was going to say after the draft too, to protect the guy that you are. You have to protect this.

[00:07:19] Like if you are actually going to drink the Kool-Aid that Bowdix is good, you should be rooting for Stidham to be the starter week one. Because you're, I think that's a key point. You want even that you don't believe in Bowdix.

[00:07:32] It's if you do believe in Bowdix, you want him on the Jordan love train rather than the I see ghosts say I'm darn old train. Right? Like you've got one Q3. QB3 is I see ghost. You want him to turn out Zach Wilson.

[00:07:46] You throw him out there week one. Zach Wilson that was Ryan did not mean that that way. You leave our mom alone. All right. This is absolutely out of control. She's single and, and could, you know, I mean, if you

[00:08:02] wanted to contribute to a house, she would appreciate it. You've got the money. Come on. She's a, she's like Gilmore's mom is what she is. She's very kind lady. So I think that's a good distinction that Bowdix is.

[00:08:26] Bowdix is even if you're rooting for him, you shouldn't want him to start. Um, but what do you think Broncos fans are going to accept that? So here I have, is anybody smart in this town? Okay.

[00:08:42] I kind of think Broncos media is kind of how Lakers media is. They're so used to winning, right? Like think about, you know, even the, even, you know, people older than us, you could have been, you know, you could be in your forties and you were 13 in

[00:09:04] your prime formative years when John Elway helicoptered and we've basically been competitive since then, right? Like there had been a down year here and there never like this prolonged incompetence, right. Um, under Boland sense since that day, right?

[00:09:22] You can never say, I'm not sure we have a good plan. It's almost like there were. Yeah. There might be injuries, there might be things, right? But it, it wasn't, you know, um, prolonged incompetence. So I think it's like the Lakers media talks themselves into last summer.

[00:09:44] Uh, you know what guys we played the closest sweep and NBA history. And you know who we got? Gabe Vincent, who the smartest team in the NBA who constantly finds value said, I still away go game.

[00:10:02] Also you're going to have to go through the nuggets and you just watched the nuggets abuse him in every cross-patch. And I think that's Broncos media and how it operates. They always view themselves as we are a successful franchise and you

[00:10:19] have to come to terms with the fact that we are not that anymore. And it doesn't bring joy to say that, but well, and that's my point. When it's prolonged, they have this on a draft. Like honestly though, even the, even the success that we've had was based

[00:10:37] on the fact that we got Peyton Manning to choose us like that was not in choice that, but that was that nobody, nobody was looking at that. Like, Oh, what a groundbreaking decision. The best thing we did after that.

[00:10:51] Like the second best decision the franchise has made is draft von Miller after he got caught smoking that bong. And we were like, you'll fit right in dude. Don't worry about it. Come on down. Yeah, no, that, but I also thought we kind of, um, for sure, but

[00:11:09] I'm not giving Peyton anything. He, he literally earned this job because we thought that we were going to get Aaron Rodgers. Everybody is here. Everybody is here because we thought we were going to get Aaron Rodgers. The Waltons are here because of that.

[00:11:26] The coach is here because, well, not this coach, the previous coach was here because of that. Russell Wilson is here, but was here because of that. Everything is a ripple effect from that decision. And well, but so what I'm saying is, is under Bowlin, I think John

[00:11:44] Elway was empowered to be, and some of it was Peyton Manning was really good at recruiting as well. So I don't want to not give him some credit as well, but Elway was crazy aggressive, like he was out there and he was like F them picks before

[00:11:59] the Rams were F them picks, right? He was like, Hey, I'll take, uh, to leave. Uh, I don't think we're going to find a third rounder. That's as good as him. You can have it like, Hey, we're going to do this, you know, like,

[00:12:13] so I do think that we were a competently run organization beyond, like they made some smart building around Peyton decisions that showed when Peyton's arm left his body and that's when we won the Superbowl, right? Well, the defense was elite. Yeah.

[00:12:27] But the, which was a John Elway build around after the Superbowl, there were how competent organizations work. They see a weakness and they say, Hey, we can fix this. There were five weaknesses. There were five weaknesses then there are 12 now. The whole roster is a weakness.

[00:12:44] There isn't a strong part, so there's nothing, there's no foundation to build upon. CB one. And that's why, like, if, if Peyton really wanted to save his job, if, if he's worried about his job security at all, he will sit next.

[00:13:02] He will call Sean Peyton and be like, you're not starting him because you want to just delay. Like if you're not sure that he's good. If you're not positive that you're going to be proven right, you have to just say, let's see him in week eight.

[00:13:19] Let's give him a bit more weeks. I think George is thinking about his next GM job. Well, and George, and let's- Because when Sean drafted Bo Nix- That's, that's what I was going to say. I mean, this guy was castrated from the beginning.

[00:13:30] Like he is, he hasn't had anything. He's been a John Elway figurehead up there since Sean Peyton got hired. So- The biggest, the biggest mistake he's made is not doing, letting Sean Peyton just tell him what to say.

[00:13:42] Like, cause his opinion comes out sometimes and then you're like, wait, that's not what we did at all. Aren't you supposed to be in charge of that? How come we didn't do it? You said you wanted to do. You're the general manager. Yeah.

[00:13:53] Um, uh, Cortland Sutton, he did report to mini camp. He said he felt like he'd proved his point, uh, that he was disgruntled. I, I don't know that's how that works. If you're like, Hey man, you know how we get- Christmas week off. I'm not coming in.

[00:14:14] And then you come in the first day after Christmas vacation, you're like, prove them, show them. Yeah. It was like, Hey man, you're going to start getting fined. Uh, if you don't go to these, Oh, I'll show up. Don't worry about it though. Yeah.

[00:14:29] That just means you didn't go to optional work days. That that's not impressive. I don't think that they were, uh, blown away by his, uh, tactics. I'm if I'm being honest as a person who was sometimes the best runner on

[00:14:46] their high school team, a lot of those optional practices, I did not show up. I was going to go for my run, but I'm not, no need to see it. If I was Cortland Sutton looking at that wide receiver room, I'd be like, I'm going to learn what.

[00:15:03] And that's kind of how I felt in high school. I'm going to show up and you guys are going to be like, I'm going to go for 20 minutes. Yeah. And at a 12 minute pace, that's that's our wide receiver room.

[00:15:16] Well, I think they're getting bossed on the way to that run. I don't even know if they're making it to practice. It's a, uh, which is also something people forget that we, uh, who are the, who's the quarterback going to throw to who are they going to,

[00:15:32] Tim Patrick? I heard good things about him straight knee injuries. I would say the science does not speak highly of that. Hey man, as a person recovering from a knee injury myself, getting back

[00:15:46] into a, you know, a little bit of a shape here, I don't want to brag or anything, but, uh, I, uh, dance. We're not doing that. All right. Off of just one, uh, off of just one knee injury. I think, you know, Tim can come back.

[00:16:06] I believe in Tim. Okay. I want to believe in Tim. I love Tim. Like he was making so many BS catches. Can we also, do you want, do you want to resign Courtland Sutton?

[00:16:19] If we're being honest, like, I mean, I think it depends on what it looks like. What do you mean? We're going to overpay him. Paying him like a, like true, like top 10 wide receiver in the NFL. Cause he's not gonna have to. That's what, that's what the whole.

[00:16:38] Okay. It feels like there's three in the top 10 every year in the draft. That's what I think that market is too deep. I think it's like point guards. You can be a really good point guard in the NBA, but there's a lot of them

[00:16:49] who are, you're like, ah, you're not quite good enough to start, but I would love having you on my team off the bench. I think there's a lot of those. I think it's the best point. And I hope it's what they're telling him.

[00:17:00] Like it's honestly the first time that I've ever felt any little bit of faith in the front office, that they're not just like bending over and taking whatever Courtland Sutton is going to demand from them, like, which I love Courtland Sutton.

[00:17:12] Like I'm not opposed to resigning Courtland Sutton, but you have to, uh, you have to be willing to just be like, I don't actually think you're worth that. So I'm not going to pay you that. Right? No, this, this is a guy. It was, yeah.

[00:17:26] It's, it's an unfortunate part of football where I don't feel like you get to accept that the quarterback position. Um, like you don't get to build the same relationship as you do in like baseball or a, um, basketball where the careers are a little longer.

[00:17:42] Like it's the reality that like after a second contract, you probably don't want them back if you're smart. But he's also like that's any position, sadly, maybe tackles and he's defensive maybe. But he's also like still good enough to go be competitive, but he only has

[00:18:00] probably three of those years left and we're going to suck for three years. Like, so let him go. I kind of feel the same way as I felt with Vaughn Miller. Like I loved our time here. We're going to suck.

[00:18:12] Like, I understand if he, if we overpaid him, but it doesn't seem like we're going to do that. So like go get fair market value on a team that's actually good. Go sign with the bills. I don't hate the Broncos, um, bring it back until the trade deadline.

[00:18:29] Cause I think what you said, I think reality is going to come hit. And then I think there might be a team. Why do you need the trade deadline? Is one team that's desperate. You can get whatever the market is right now.

[00:18:43] You can get that at the trade deadline. Can you sign him and then trade him? But say that the Rams are all of a sudden like, Oh dang, we think we can actually beat the 49ers. We think we can go F them picks.

[00:18:55] We'll give you a second rounder for quite a while. Can you sign and trade? Hmm. Uh, yeah, I think everything in the, cause I think franchise tag people, I think you can trade them. It's just the team knows like we have to negotiate with them, but in the

[00:19:09] NFL so often those trade deadline things are we're trying to win a title this year and it's better if you. You can't resign with us. Cause if we do win the title, we're going to have a lot of guys wanting money.

[00:19:21] So it's going to be great that we don't have to give you any, uh, come win this Superbowl dog. Um, so I, yeah. Which I would love for something. Yes. Yes. Um, only other thing it feels like, uh, the pecking order of our team

[00:19:39] goes Sean Payton, Pat Sertane now. It feels like every other story I've seen has been about like Pat Sertane, like Pat Sertane, you know, said nice things about Bo Nicks. Then there was Pat Sertane talking about him not being listed as the like

[00:19:54] number one overall corner and both questions he's handled perfectly. Like he's been a true pro. He's like, I didn't have the season I wanted to have last year. He's like, I want to be setting records. I want to be doing all these things.

[00:20:09] So do I have that belief? Yes. Do I, am I mad about it? No, I need to go out and make the plays. I need to be a part of team success. And then Bo Nicks, he gave a BS quote. Like Talib was talking about.

[00:20:22] I have a lot of, I have, well, I don't have a lot, but I have some Pat Sertane rookie cards that are pretty nice and I'm very excited about his career trajectory because he's saying all the right things. He is actually phenomenal to watch.

[00:20:39] Like he truly jumps off the screen when you, when you really can just actually see like a little bit of the all 22 on the broadcast. Even when they'll show him against Devante. And you're just like, God, I mean, both those guys are freaks.

[00:20:55] Like you're like, you're both so big and you shouldn't be able to move like how you two are. The way that he moves in reaction to another human being is baffling. Like I don't, I, it is like, it's champ Bailey.

[00:21:10] That's the only person that I can, I mean, it, we've got lucky to watch champ Bailey play for the Broncos for all those years, but it's the only person that I think is even remotely close to watching

[00:21:24] Sertane move because you were just like, Oh, that side of the field is not a worry. Like you could throw over there if you want to. Good luck. Like it's, it's, it's a luxury to have. And it's crazy how much the defense sucks despite that being the case.

[00:21:44] That's what I was going to go with a generational talent. One, I don't think I've ever seen a good team in which maybe the Jacksonville Jaguars with Blake Bortles are the only team I can think of where you go, Oh, the first person that everyone wants

[00:22:01] to talk to is their cornerback. I think that's usually not a recipe for success. Jalen Ramsey. Remember when you had him and Bouye? They should have beaten the Patriots, but that Jags team was filthy. Bordled it up. Yeah.

[00:22:14] Um, and I also want to caution in the spirit of. To be clear, we are from Colorado. We're Denver based podcasts. We are, we like, we are Dolphins fans. We like when hometown teams do good. We are not so married to these takes.

[00:22:40] We are not so that I will not be happy if the Broncos win week one, I'll be thrilled. I'll be a little bit. No, not week one last year when they were going on there with his phone. It was good.

[00:22:52] I will all have a little egg on my face and I will be a little bit. Oh, I'll just be so happy. I, it'll be fine. Who are we playing week one? Ah, I think someone better than a good idea on that. Yeah.

[00:23:05] Um, but I do think, uh, that it's important for people to win the training camp, which is the next time we'll be seeing these guys is remember this is not like back in the day where people were trying to talk themselves into the Trevor

[00:23:25] Simeon or drew lock because they were like, Oh, good Lord. Okay. Uh, I'll finish this and then we should talk about the information we just saw. But speaking of Seattle, uh, who's our week one opponent? Dan, the man just informed us the, um, Seattle. Yeah.

[00:23:49] It's like when we were talking about, uh, Paxton Lynch or Trevor Simeon, um, everyone was like, well, Hey, you know, this defense is so dominant. It's tough to look good out there. Right? Like, and it was reasonable.

[00:24:04] You had Chris Harris on the backside, but you still had Vaughn. You still had, um, you know, a lot of really high level players, Justin Simmons, like you had guys out there, right? That is not the case here. Like they're pushing Alex Singleton as like, Oh, he's the

[00:24:21] shot collar down and like great milk check is our guy. This is going to be awful. Like we don't have a lot of talent on that defensive side of the ball, and I think people are going to be surprised with

[00:24:37] how little the playbook changes this year because I think some of what Sean Payton was doing, he's always loved runs. He's always loved a short pass game, but you also, you can't get up and down with this defense. You will get smoked. They're going to stop nobody.

[00:24:54] You have to do a little ball control with this. It's like, when you see Bo Nicks have a good day, don't poop your pants because he just, they told him, they were like, we've gotten rid of all the talent besides certain

[00:25:09] they're going to put certain in red Jersey. Russell Wilson. Don't throw that way. Russell Wilson looked good sometimes. Yeah. Like it's like we've all had, it's like Justin Simmons was back. It's like we've all had collective amnesia though. Yep.

[00:25:24] Like this team was not good last year and they didn't do anything to improve it and we're expecting results better than what it was last. Like what I just don't, I literally don't understand what I'm missing. I listened to probably three and a half hours of podcast

[00:25:43] today, Kyle. Yeah. And nobody said anything that was like, they're also going to suck like they were giving, they were giving fair takes about, Oh, Bo Nicks did this in practice and this and this, but they're comparing Bo Nicks to Jared Stidham and, uh, Zach Wilson. Yeah. So,

[00:26:07] and he's out there against and they're not, and they're not just like, they're not like, Oh, he looked amazing. They're like, yeah, you looked okay. I think it's going to be okay. Yeah. Nobody's, nobody's losing their mind, which says everything.

[00:26:24] You, this is going to be maybe worse than last year. It's going to be more painful for a lot of Broncos fans unless you come to a realization that this team is going to suck really quickly. Yeah.

[00:26:36] Um, the also we should just go over the fact to reiterate it and then we can move on to our favorite rookies. Um, or actually I wanted to ask you the Sean Payton, Payton media blitz that's continued.

[00:26:51] I didn't want to get your take on that after this, but, uh, it is malpractice to start Bo Nicks on the road in Seattle. That is one of the toughest places to play opening week. And you've got a veteran coach with defensive talent who's just

[00:27:07] had all off season to cook and show you just weird stuff that Bo Nicks has never seen. I don't care if you gave him five days worth of stuff and he kind of remembered half of it and you were amazed. Like, I don't care about that.

[00:27:21] You are going to be peeing down your leg in that stadium. That's malpractice to start him on the road. I, I couldn't agree more. I couldn't agree more. I don't understand why any rookie quarterback starts week one anymore. There, there's literally nothing good to learn from that.

[00:27:41] The only franchise that's had a good quarterback for the past 20 years always drafts one about three years early and lets them sit while everyone in the league is like, is this guy going to have a stroke from all the stress

[00:27:54] of sitting there and learning from one of the best ever do it? And we all can't figure it out that this is a good way to do things. And if, and if Stidham is as good of a guy as it's

[00:28:07] reported that he is like let him sit behind him. It's not like he's going to blow him away with talent, but at least he's competent. Listen, they didn't send the president or the grand ruler of Russia into the nuclear power plant in Chernobyl. All right.

[00:28:26] It was some guy making 50 bucks an hour and that's Jared Stidham. Okay. Yeah. That's, Hey man. Oh, we're not quite sure what's going on with the reactor. Can you go check it out? Why doesn't Bo check it out? No, no, no. Aye, aye, aye. Value.

[00:28:44] Oh, Bo doesn't have clearance to go all the way down to the reactor. If he could, he would love to. Yeah. His card doesn't have access. Yeah. That last door is really tricky. Yeah. Go on ahead though. Why is it green in here? No reason, dude.

[00:29:02] Just keep walking. Keep waiting. Yeah. Okay. Sean Payton final topic. I think he's been probably outside of Bo Nix, the most dominant and for people wanting more Bo Nix talks, I think he'll come up in our rookie like in relation to that.

[00:29:23] So we'll get not in our rankings to be clear. He's not in my top five of rookies I've been most excited about. But Sean Payton, there was an article written and I like Trey Rank. I don't have anything against him. I think he's totally fine.

[00:29:41] Good old Troy and me. We're fast pals. But there was an article that was like, it's noticeable. Sean Payton is so much more likeable, so much more charismatic than last year. And I'm like, yeah, because last year he had to

[00:30:00] come to you after he'd messed up game management and pooped another game down his leg. When we get beat by the Seahawks by 20, I bet a lot of charisma is gone when you have to ask him questions about was that the way the play

[00:30:15] was drawn up when Stidham tripped over his shoelaces and then threw it Brian greasy style over his head. No look into the waiting arms of the Seattle players. Was that how that was meant to go? I don't think he's going to have a charismatic answer, right?

[00:30:36] He was being super charismatic before the season last year. Oh, he was being charismatic. He was talking. He was in USA today. I'm not a part. He was in USA today saying, I don't know who drew up this office, but we're not going to be doing

[00:30:53] anything close to that. This guy is. I only had one draw. He is at least 30 draws in my playbook. He's actually the worst. It's it's not shocking that Condoleezza Rice would hire this sort of person. Only a war criminal could torture us like this. Truly it is.

[00:31:16] It's something that I am not sure anybody will ever fathom the fact that we gave this guy whatever it is, $35 million to coach the team for the next 10 years. The fact that they could hand the keys to this guy. I mean, no, you're 100% right.

[00:31:37] And it's to your point about amnesia for these Braggos fans. Don't remember him seeming super smart and a savior last year at this time. This is the same stuff. If people were talking about the fucking Super Bowl, Kyle, we were having a Super Bowl conversation.

[00:31:56] You said they were going to go 12 and four. I'm pretty sure I said 11 and six with the seven game schedule, but it's regrettable. I really got hyped up. I we don't have a bottom 10 strength of schedule. It's tough for me to find anything to be super

[00:32:14] positive about here. So, yeah, the Sean Payton. Where are they coming from though, Kyle? Where are these people coming? What are they watching? What are they consuming that is giving outside of just Sean Payton literally spewing bullshit? I just don't understand where it's coming from.

[00:32:33] Here it's what I said earlier. This is 100% my theory. I think Braggos fans are Lakers fans. And so they've not known incompetence. That is so frustrating. And they just are used to like, oh, hey, we were having a tough time there for a while being incompetent.

[00:32:49] We got Peyton Manning, right? Like that's the Lakers. Oh, we were doing a bunch of stupid stuff. Everyone requested a trade here actually. Like you don't have to be and we were going to make me be a Dolphins fan again. A fan.

[00:33:03] And so those people, they don't, they haven't experienced being this franchise. Like when we were growing up, it was the Browns. We're the Browns. Like we're the Browns from when we were kids. Well, the Browns are still the Browns, but they made the playoffs.

[00:33:26] I'd have rather been them than us. I'll tell you that. They have Deshaun Watson. Nobody would rather be. Yeah, that's, that's not true. Also, they're going to be an in-season hard knocks. Could you imagine being the Browns PR person being like, are you shitting me?

[00:33:50] You have got, they resigned that the day that that was announced. Like, nope, I can't do this. I mean, I watched him be in press conferences, but you could only ask me to do so much here. Uh, going to the whole AFC North for the in-season.

[00:34:08] Oh, uh, I beg of you only show Deshaun Watson on massage tables. The funniest thing you can do is just meanwhile, while Lamar prepares for battle, let's see how Deshaun gets ready. Oh Lord. Oh, it's true. He's fully in jeans. Yeah. Oh, the massage table.

[00:34:41] We, uh, we actually instituted this silence of the lambs procedure. Now when Deshaun is getting treatment, we're not making fun of any of the women who were assaulted by Deshaun were, were merely making fun of the fact that he's definitely a predator and he shouldn't be in

[00:34:57] the league. Yeah. Yeah. We're on the, we're, uh, we're, we're not on your side. Yeah. Yeah. We're not having fun with you. We're having fun at you and you're a real piece of shit. Correct. Uh, he goes in the not sportate just genuine. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:35:16] He's in there in my hall of fame with Dwight Howard. It's like, Oh no, I genuinely don't like you. Yeah. I like you're not fun to watch and you're a really bad person. Yeah. So let's transition to something happier here. We wanted to go through our rookie

[00:35:33] rankings in honor of the Bonix hype. As you pointed out, Ryan, this is not, uh, in honor of Bonix. We have not raised our hype level, um, at all. Uh, but we did want to go through the happy, happy memories. Um, in some cases of mine, they're

[00:35:49] not happy memories, but I just can't deny that I was so unbelievably excited. And the other thing that I do want to say to Broncos fans is this is part of being a fan, like part of being a fan is the journey of

[00:36:08] like, Oh, Murray and Yogic aren't the best tandem in the league yet, but holy shit. Did they just mess up the Celtics or, you know, like you see these spurts and then you see games where Yogic would shoot the ball three times and you'd be like, for

[00:36:25] fucking Christ. Yeah, I lost, I lost a lot of money in those two years where he would just not shoot the ball. You that's part of the process. And so don't think that don't like find something here. Like Ryan said, watch Pat Sartain and be like, Oh, okay.

[00:36:42] Devante got him on that last year. Now he's locking his ass up. I was lucky enough to go to a game even last year when I wasn't a fan yet because of he who shall not be named and I wore my Pat Sartain

[00:36:58] jersey and I watched Pat Sartain. Dan was there. I had a great time. It was wonderful. There is like I'm rooting for Troy Franklin. I want to be excited about Troy Franklin, the Oregon wide receiver coming in. I want to be excited about Bo Nicks.

[00:37:15] Why do you want to be excited about him, Kyle? I because he's fast as hell. And, you know, it's easy to get sucked into people who are really fast and have quick feet. Their highlight tapes just look cooler. I'm sorry. Where did he go to school? Oregon.

[00:37:31] Yeah, he was there with Bo. Oh, with Bo. Yeah. They were homies. But I was excited. I want to be excited about players. And I think that it's important to on this podcast. We're going to be honest with you. We're not going to blow smoke up

[00:37:47] your ass and tell you the you know, like every Bo Nicks is the second coming of Jesus Christ. Right. But I am actively looking for things to enjoy along this journey rather than just be here and be like, we're not going to win the Super Bowl.

[00:38:04] Yeah, I did. So are 31 other teams. You can still have fun memories. I had a great time when we ruined Josh Dabbs' run there for the Vikings. It led to more victories that I didn't appreciate. That's such a great way to think about it, too,

[00:38:19] because I think you really just have to accept that this is going to be like a six and 12 season and just say and just say, you know. We're we're happy with that. Yeah, six and 11 would be a win. Well, yeah, yeah, whatever. Right. They haven't gone to 18 yet.

[00:38:39] No, good. I was trying to make it year round, but the NBA is trying to cut game. It was like perfect. We can start in August. But all right, without further ado, how do you want to do it?

[00:38:52] Do you want me to give you all five of mine? Do you want me to start at five and count down? I think I just I think I want to react to your five because I don't think I have there's controversial numbers. There's controversial ones in here.

[00:39:07] Give me so I'll give you my five. Give me five through one, and then I'll see if I disagree or well, I'm going to disagree, but I'll see where I think your mistakes may be. OK, there are no mistakes to be clear here.

[00:39:20] Don't tweet at us with your with your list. In my opinion, there will be a mistake. But it's all how people perceive it. Right. Everybody else can keep their opinion to themselves. We're not here to we're not here to be.

[00:39:31] It's totally fine to say, oh, I was really excited about this person. Don't be that guy who comes into the conversation and be like, yeah, I didn't like that. Yeah, you're an idiot. Cool, man. We were just talking about this movie.

[00:39:43] I don't know how to transition out of that now. Talking to you, Dad's at the barbecue. But my number five controversial. But. No, I can't do that. I'm going Nate McKinnon, number five. I didn't have as much personal connection with the Avs at that time.

[00:40:04] And they had been so bad. Right. And hockey is probably the sport that I have. Like some of the least emotional connection with. And that's weird because I remember the sack. I remember the Bork thing being a very cool moment.

[00:40:21] And all three of us were together to watch us win the most recent Cup. And that was a great time. But like the grind of the season, I make no mistake that. I mean, there's a reason we have Dom on. Right.

[00:40:33] Like he is a he's a sicko for the NHL, like how we're a sicko for NBA. Like we are watching a Wednesday night game and like, yep, this is a great time. So it was very apparent early on that he was unreal and he goes into the.

[00:40:51] Even if I, I will, I'm not going to sit here and say I knew Nate McKinnon would one day be the best player in hockey. You did just say that before, though. Yeah, earlier, but that's fine. They.

[00:41:07] But he was unbelievably fun to watch in flashes because he's so fast. So like sometimes where they couldn't hold him or mug him or any of this, he was like, what's happening to Caitlin Clark is bad.

[00:41:21] You should have seen what these guys were trying to do to Nate McKinnon to keep him from embarrassing them. We're here if you thought that that was a flagrant foul on Caitlin Clark. You should come watch Kyle and I play one on one.

[00:41:34] Because some of the things that I do to this man to keep him from scoring a basket are flagrant twos, if that's a flagrant one. I mean, that's not a foul. If you're calling that on our one on once, I don't know.

[00:41:51] I mean, I guess you've got soft on me. I probably have. But McKinnon super fun to watch any notes on him being a five. I think it's totally reasonable if you're a bigger ad fan for you to be really unbelievably exciting.

[00:42:06] Our lifetime, though, I'm struggling to really think about it. Like I haven't really gone back and truly looked at everybody who has been a rookie. But and you might be right. I mean, he was exciting and he's so exciting now that

[00:42:25] when you look at his career in general, I think it's hard to hard to really argue with that. And to be clear with people, I'm merely talking about their rookie year. Right. I'm not saying their career. No one was sitting there like, Yoke, this rookie year.

[00:42:41] Right. Like, obviously, I'm most excited about him right now. It's trying to think of who the first nugget is going to be. So I'm excited to see who's next. I only have one on my list. OK, so who's for four for me?

[00:42:57] Oh, is this going to be it is now? I gave Ryan a warning about this one because I knew he had a moment because we argued about it throughout. Ryan was really into Bill Belichick's Hobbit friend, McDaniel here. And he ran this man out of town.

[00:43:19] Ryan loved it and said, yes, this is exactly the right move. Why would we ever want people with talent on our team? Ryan didn't say any of that. But I am going with Jay Cutler. He was a high draft pick. He had diabetes. He had undiagnosed diabetes.

[00:43:38] Yeah. Rookie year. That makes him more relatable, not less. That makes him like him more. That's not a negative in my book, Ryan. I mean, his stats are pretty unbelievable. Well, and he just had those moments where

[00:43:57] and it went both ways, which is kind of a fun rookie place to be in. There would be sometimes Jay Cutler would escape like three things, get his feet set, look right at it. Bullet that bitch. And, you know, this camera is panning.

[00:44:17] And I was like, that's a touchdown. Go ahead then and just put it in the middle linebacker's chest. And I'd be like, well, I know you looked so confident. Like, you know, normally rookie picks like that. They're like running and kind of flailing off balance.

[00:44:33] He set his feet, looked at that middle linebacker and said, my arm is strong enough to throw through you. Get out the way. He's like, you can have this pick, but you're going to be out for the game with broken ribs. So we'll see who wins this one.

[00:44:49] And then some of the times, obviously, some of the passes he made, there were there was this feeling of like, hey, if we can get him to stop throwing it to the middle linebacker and when you're a rookie, it's kind of OK that some of those moments happen

[00:45:04] because you're like, oh, of course, every rookie throws picks and misreads and does whatever. This arm talent is unbelievable. And so I was really excited for him. And obviously he overtook, overtook Jake the Snake here. But it was a fun and electric run that my guy had there

[00:45:28] that was unfortunately the first victim of Bill Belichick's real genius, which was having inbred nitwits for assisting coaches and then getting them hired by the rest of the AFC. I have I have the hard time with this one, if I'm being honest.

[00:45:49] You didn't like Jay, like his rookie year. Weren't you excited about that? No. Dandy, he has some swag to him, too. No, I don't think I was excited. I really like Jake Plummer, too. So I like the snake. Yeah. You're not wrong.

[00:46:04] I was I remember being a little upset that I don't have loyalty to Jake Snake there and I and I hated how fat Jay Cutler's face was. Yeah. I mean, that guy, nobody has ever looked. It was like when Bryson was fat. He just won the PGA championship.

[00:46:24] But when Bryson was really putting on weight, you just wanted to punch him. Like he just looked like he looked exactly like your washed up high school quarterback. I think this is you as a runner talking right now because you have always been insanely in shape and skinny.

[00:46:44] But the rest of us have not been that way. And sometimes when we see someone, maybe a little husky, a.k.a. Nicole Jokic, maybe we like that guy and I like it. I mean, that guy fucks up all the athletic guys.

[00:47:00] Yeah. Tom Brady out here being like, if you eat an avocado on Sunday, it's a sin. And then we had smoking Jay over here. It kind of felt good. I liked it. Well, some other people I thought about for this one, Jamal Murray

[00:47:17] and the other one I thought about for the Nuggets that I'm ashamed to admit. So I kept it off my top five. But we're in a safe place here so I can tell you. I was real excited about Emmanuel Moody. Yeah, I was excited as rookie year.

[00:47:32] I got off the train very quickly. But Moody was just like all the he was the classic. Like he's a big guard. Like he's super athletic. I remember well, figure out how to play best. I remember disagreeing with you at the time.

[00:47:49] Yeah, it was I think I was at Emmanuel Moody's first game. Yeah. And I remember heckling him that game. That's that's terrible. You probably are the reason he wasn't good. I take it back. Emmanuel was great. He was on a road for darkness.

[00:48:04] Let me tell you and tell Ryan once again intervened. First, he supported the Hobbit. Now he was actually first person pooping on this man's career. Who's your next person? All right. Number three, Todd Helton. We were at the game where he made his first rookie appearance

[00:48:24] and it was so perfect. You had him and Walker. Walker was still on the team. It really felt like a passing of the torch. And he knocked in a single in the clutch, which I just recently took Boaty to his first Rockies game.

[00:48:39] And I can tell you, we don't have anyone who knocks people in the clutch. If there's someone on second, go get a beer, because we'll we'll figure out a way to get two outs here soon. But Helton, it was so obvious he was unreal good as a hitter.

[00:48:58] And I couldn't be more happy that he's in the Hall of Fame where he belongs, because this was a guy who was not like he wasn't built to be a home run, you know, like champion king, whatever. It's that he was flirting with 400 all the time

[00:49:14] because this guy just got pure ass contact all the time. And then obviously we got to have O7 with him, which was a great, you know, except for the Red Sox would have been the Ray Bork run. Right. Like seeing Todd Helton touch that thing.

[00:49:33] We'd be living off that still as Rocks fans. We wouldn't be mad right now that we suck. People would be like, remember that time when Todd Helton cried and gave the greatest speech in sports history and Scott Van Pilt, he would have left with him live on air.

[00:49:47] That was unbelievable. Ninety lives. Oh, Todd would have been solo cup and wine for decades. Yes, as he should have been. Other Rockies I thought about, I thought about Tullo, Tullo came out the gates really hot and then had injuries.

[00:50:06] But I didn't have the same moments with him as a rookie. It just felt like he was really good and the team sucked. Yeah. Aeronado, I don't remember a rookie year being super pumped about him. It was a little later, like in there. And then Matt Holliday.

[00:50:25] I remember that once again being a little time to develop there. So those were my kind of Rockies that I thought about young. By the way, I'm officially. Tovar. I'm in on my guy. I wasn't even mad that what's the name?

[00:50:44] I think we'll be Dan of our number one prospect that we just brought up. Starts with an A, but he's batting 143 in the majors or too much for him right now. Like it is really bad. It's not a rookie year.

[00:50:56] I'll remember. I think we'll be able to give. But I saw Tovar. I think we'll be able to give Tovar. No, I'm going to mispronounce his name. It's been good for rookies. Tovar. When I saw he was 24, I was three heels.

[00:51:08] I think we'll be able to give him to the Cardinals. Oh, my God. If we pay him, if we pay him like 34, 35 million dollars, I think they'll take him off our hands. Yeah, we can bring Nolan back. It'll be awesome.

[00:51:24] Yeah, that guy is not going to be on our roster in two years. I guarantee you. No, I can still enjoy him now, though. He's he's cooking. He's the most enjoyable. I don't think you can. I can. It's the only way.

[00:51:36] By the way, I take back any negative thing I've said about a Rockies viewing experience because going with a kid is amazing. Bodie went to his first one. It's outdoor. No one goes. So Bodie could roam the hall, the row as he needed.

[00:51:55] We went down early because 640 just go early parents. There's a playground there. There's a special kids like menu place where you can just go through, get kid size portions. Dinger get to meet Dinger. Bodie was a big Dinger guy. Got him a dinosaur.

[00:52:13] Yeah. Like saw him once during warm ups. Asked about him until the third inning was like, hey, where's this Dinger fellow? When is he going to come back? Right. Enjoys a Dinger more than a Rocky. Yeah. Which which is surprising to me.

[00:52:29] I'll be interested to see his first CU game with Chip. The mascot, because I think Buffalo is another fun one. And Chip with his face just looks fun, looks friendly as a buffalo. Not trying to look scary.

[00:52:41] But I think an outdoor experience with the mascot was much better than an indoor experience. Also, good Lord, do the pirates of them suck. A side here for parent corner real quick. Shout out Bill Simmons. So the rules are it's third inning through middle of the fourth. Right.

[00:53:01] So my mom, who works there this summer, some games she had got us to get. She said, hey, here are the kid friendly things to do. She correctly told us third inning. We're getting there. The guy's like, oh, just so you know, Dinger, he said fourth inning.

[00:53:20] He's over there. I was like, oh, I was like, that's what my mom told me. It's like third inning. He's like, yeah, fourth inning. Emphasizes it again. So we say perfect. We were going to go like middle of the second to get in line because my mom had

[00:53:35] warned us that the line gets long. Right. And but we're like, oh, after the second, we'll go. The pirates and Rockies were just hitting into double plays out here while we're getting stressed in line, because also the Rockies people are

[00:53:51] coming up because they know that the parent is going to be furious who doesn't get a picture with thinner Dinger, who just stood in this line. And they're like two more outs to you. Yeah, I'm watching on the TV. I couldn't be more stressed.

[00:54:05] I've never rooted for more full counts and everything because Boaty's got to go. Correct. They pull him hard. They got one family. They've right. What's he doing? Like, yeah, that was weird, too. But whatever they they the family. There's two families in front of us.

[00:54:28] They're going to let us go. The guys like, oh, yeah, you're good. Then two families up. They start asking for all sorts of stuff from Dinger. I'm like, bro. This is I was this is a 40 year old drunk man in a suit. We do not need his autograph.

[00:54:44] What are we doing? I was just listening to Larry David talk about when if you have like a dinner reservation and somebody sitting in your table and you know they're sitting in your table, do you go and say something to them like, hey,

[00:54:59] you know, you're not ordering anything like let's wrap this up. Look, it's it's my turn to eat. And he was like, well, I can't do that. But curb your enthusiasm. Larry could do that. But curb your enthusiasm.

[00:55:13] Kyle could have gone up to that family and been like, hey, all right. The dinosaurs had enough. Like, yeah, you don't need this many pictures. How many pictures do you need? But Dinger was coming through the line.

[00:55:25] He did a good job and it ended up we ended up getting a great picture. So Mom was thrilled. We were we were great. But shout out Rockies games with kids. But those were my Rockies nominees. I don't have any other ones as far as that.

[00:55:38] I forgot we were doing this list. Yeah. Number two, we have a little personal connection here. So it bumps it for me. I know I said I'm not a diehard fan, but to me, this guy's rookie year includes the playoffs.

[00:55:54] Kale McCarr, number two, came in and was awesome right away in the playoffs. So it's like normally with rookies, there's like this progression of where like Nate McKinnon is awesome. But what does he look like in a playoff series? Then he makes a playoff series.

[00:56:11] Then, you know, you run up against the veteran team and you're like, OK, he didn't quite have it. But did he show me enough that he's going to figure it out or not? Right. Kale was like, hey, we're in the playoffs.

[00:56:21] And he was like, yeah, that's no problem. I'll just fuck everyone up. And it was like, oh, I think he's pretty good. And I'll never forget the quote. I was like, dude, this kale guy. And you go, you were working at DU at the time.

[00:56:35] And you said, Kyle, DU has multiple players who are going to get drafted in the NHL. And we looked like kids out there. You said he single handedly beat us. It was frozen for or championship game. Well, frozen for. Kept me from probably getting a ring, honestly,

[00:56:52] because whoever won that game was probably going to win the national title. And he I will say there was a question of what I thought was a questionable call. Granted, I knew basically nothing at the time. But I remember being at my desk streaming the game.

[00:57:09] And there was a penalty that they called on to use guy. He checked him in the middle of the ice. And his head may have been down, but, you know, keep your head on a swivel. You know, so I don't understand. Did that affect kale?

[00:57:27] Because I know they scored it. They scored on the power play. No, I mean, they scored up. No, no, no. Well, yes. They scored on that power play and then they eliminated DU. And I was very upset. And I remember them, you know, being at all the Colorado

[00:57:46] media being like, oh, this guy's going to be great for the apps. And I was kind of like, you know what? Fuck this guy. Yeah. I I don't really. Good for me right now. Yeah. You know what? Like, I don't care how good this guy is.

[00:58:03] I don't think I'm going to like this guy. And let me tell you, I love Kail McCarr. I mean, I that guy is I mean, he's first of all, listen, I'm not completely not like you could really hate a lot of people.

[00:58:18] I don't think you could hate Kail McCarr. No, like he's he doesn't. He's just a guy. He is just a dude. So I don't think that anybody can hate that guy. I was going to say, by the time you had told me about it,

[00:58:31] you seem to be like he was. Well, I think there were, you know what I mean? There were a couple of playoff games where I was like, I mean, the whole scouting report around his around that frozen for game was like this defenseman is not.

[00:58:49] If we score a goal, it'll be great because of that one guy. So I think I think it's a fair ranking, even though I am a little bitter and he did end up winning that national title. I wasn't as invested in the D.U.

[00:59:05] hockey team, so it didn't hurt me as much. I would like an apology if I'm being honest, and I think I deserve one. We'll have him on. But we'll see. You know, yeah. Tweet at him, Dan. At Kail McCarr. That's why I love it. Yeah.

[00:59:24] My number one is Carmelo Anthony. He thought it was going to be Lenis. Didn't have obviously the career with the nuggets that I wanted and all of the feelings that people have towards his departure and subsequent lying about it repeatedly on podcasts is all very fair.

[00:59:43] All I know is Armstrong stretching him. He put his nuts on LeBron's head multiple times in clutch situations, and it was awesome. I'll never forget that first year was awesome. He beat twice. I never for he was awesome. Never for he was like eight and one versus him

[01:00:03] for in the beginning of their careers in Denver. Like it was messing him up that first time, too. He hit LeBron with a dirty ass crossover into the fastest. When you're talking about just a rookie year, I can appreciate Carmelo in the clutch over LeBron's face.

[01:00:21] And I was like, we have a guy. And obviously, those powder blues by it's biased. I'm biased because the Nuggets are my favorite team. So it was probably going to be another player. No, I actually don't think that this is that contra. And number two is that

[01:00:39] the drought that had happened where we never had a guy that you were like, this guy could be the best scorer in the league. I don't think he ever became that. I know there's a lot of revisionist history about his New York years.

[01:00:53] Kevin Durant was much better than him. Yeah. But well, but it was reasonable his rookie year to say we could win a title with this guy if he, you know, like progress all this stuff, like the flashes he'd shown. We should have won the playoffs.

[01:01:09] We should have won it. We should have won it on. But it's fine. It's a two to two with Kobe. Yeah. It and every referee. But that's fine. But so I just had an unbelievable time watching him. I felt like there were

[01:01:32] there were moments where he was infuriating, but there were moments where it was just like, holy hell. He just dropped all of these points. And he was a rookie. Now, nobody was mad at his 30 percent usage rate when he was a rookie

[01:01:45] because we sucked and it was like, no one was mad at him until he forced his way out and then has spent all the years post retirement being like, oh, they actually told me they were going to rebuild.

[01:01:57] So, oh, that's why we took Omlee veterans back for you. You idiot. Like, no, like, come on. Yeah, he's he's got some self discovery to do on that front. But I don't think that this is even that controversial.

[01:02:13] No, now that I'm thinking about it, I wasn't here for John Elway. That that I think was the one that I was going to bring up. John Elway is the one that I was like, maybe he belongs in that McKinnon spot.

[01:02:23] But like, I just wasn't alive for his rookie. He also forced his way here and then he wasn't that good for a while. Right. Like his whole career arc was like the way people describe his athleticism, it kind of sounds my homesy where you're like,

[01:02:38] how did the dude that shiz? But it was it sounds like he also had a roster similar to what we currently have. And so whenever you scored, it was kind of like, how did he do that?

[01:02:49] That guy has a cigarette in his mouth as he's running the route. Are you saying Bo Nix is John Elway? I am not saying that because he didn't make my list. I think I just said the talent around John Elway was similar

[01:03:02] to the talent that's going to be around Bo Nix. Oh, Dan, we'll have to check the tape. We're going to get similar results. We'll have to check the tape. That's my final opinion. I think the similarities between them are that there was a dearth

[01:03:14] of talent around them on the offensive side. But that's that's my list. Any? I thought about Jamal Murray, but I don't remember. And it's knowing Jamal Murray's game now, it makes total sense. But Jamal Murray is just like a really crafty, like shifty.

[01:03:36] And yes, he absolutely had like dunks at Kentucky. He had moments. But it wasn't like we were getting some high flying. Just like, holy hell. And I hated Kentucky. Those were the prime Cal. Hate Kentucky years. So it was hard for me to play as excited.

[01:03:59] And he missed his first like 37 shots in the league. I forget exactly what the number was, but it was bad. So rookie year wise, I wouldn't put him. And what are we eight years in? We're still dealing with the streakiness. So, yeah, yeah.

[01:04:17] It happens to the best of us, baby. So that's my list. Any any other people that you'd like to honorable mention or people that stuck out to you as like, oh, that was fun. I thought about Jerry Judy, honestly, because we were so hyped about Jerry

[01:04:36] Judy watching him run around cones was still those fight to this day. I mean, you pull up a Jerry Judy hype video. He was running routes in Highlands Ranch. I remember that during probably about this time. He's running routes in the cul-de-sac. I'm like, oh my God.

[01:04:55] Hoodie Mellow at Lifetime and Jerry Judy, orange cones are the same person. You're like, it's not actual the sport they get paid to play. But man, you look good doing this part of it. Yeah. Yeah. I really I'm.

[01:05:12] It's crazy because we've never really had that high of draft picks. Like Mellow is really the only true blue blood draft pick where you were like, we cannot mess this up and outside of Baby Bo Nicks, which is hard to think about.

[01:05:29] It's also really hard to think about those to have a fun rookie year because no, it's not wide receiver. I was a quarterback. Vaughn Miller. Yeah. No, a quarterback. But I'm saying like Vaughn Miller even his rookie year. It doesn't stand out in my top five.

[01:05:45] I remember being excited about the draft pick. And there were definitely. It was just like, oh that'll be fun in two years. You have to get strong in the trenches. You have to do all that.

[01:05:53] So for people with the Vaughn Miller thing, that's kind of why it was for me. There was no more fun season than the Super Bowl year with Vaughn Miller because he literally just ruined every team's game plan. And then. We made a lot of money off of it.

[01:06:12] Anonymously said that he was trying to put his nuts on Tom Brady's forehead every time he sacked him, which was awesome. So that's I guess that's our message is find joy in your sports. Don't search for the sadness. We can make criticisms. Be Dolphins fans.

[01:06:32] That's not anywhere what we said. We didn't say that at all. You said find joy. I didn't know. Where are you finding joy in this team? I will go over it next week, but I there was my first time where I thought,

[01:06:49] okay, Mike, you'll call me your house. Oh, really? Yeah. I'll talk to you about it next week. We'll get in there. But thank you for listening. This has been the Blues for Brothers podcast. We are a local Denver podcast. Congrats to the Celtics for winning the title.

[01:07:07] We'll be back next year. Not congrats. And negative congrats. I hate all the Celtics. Ask Chris about Christoph's about Putin. Bye. Blues for Brothers is a Crab Shell media podcast.