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[00:00:00] Welcome to another episode of The Blucifer Brothers
[00:00:03] The Broncos did dumb things
[00:00:06] The Nuggets did smart things
[00:00:09] Are we stuck in Groundhog Day?
[00:00:13] Dan, play that funky music
[00:00:16] It is beautiful here
[00:00:23] In a land of clean water
[00:00:25] Not that dirty tap water
[00:00:27] That they tried to feed Jamal Murray
[00:00:29] To bring him down
[00:00:31] But nothing would keep the Nuggets away from him
[00:00:33] Keep the Nuggets away from 3-0 victory
[00:00:36] The Broncos got their man
[00:00:38] In bow-nicks
[00:00:39] Ryan, it's been a whirlwind
[00:00:41] We're broadcasting during the Aves game
[00:00:44] Which is inevitably going to lead to some guttural sounds
[00:00:48] During this podcast
[00:00:49] But we've decided to risk it for the listeners
[00:00:52] So the Aves are currently losing 2-1 at home
[00:00:56] So just to give the listeners an insight into our process
[00:01:00] But Ryan, how does this whirlwind of a 2 days find you?
[00:01:05] Yeah, it's been fun sports
[00:01:12] Nothing really to complain about
[00:01:15] I think... well there's lots to complain about
[00:01:18] And I think I will throughout the podcast
[00:01:20] But there are lots of interesting things going on
[00:01:25] Which is always exciting
[00:01:27] This is sort of the last... it's like the death rattle
[00:01:30] Of the sports season
[00:01:32] You know, it's the last time where you have really all sports operating on a real level
[00:01:39] Until really September
[00:01:41] So enjoy it while it lasts people
[00:01:44] Because outside of the Olympics it's going to be a quiet summer
[00:01:48] Yes, absolutely
[00:01:50] Important to be appreciative that at least we had a lot going on
[00:01:57] Some good, some bad
[00:01:59] So I wanted to start with the Broncos draft
[00:02:03] The people on this podcast know how I feel about Bonix
[00:02:07] They know how Ryan feels about Bonix
[00:02:09] You were not high on Bonix
[00:02:12] Bonix is two months younger than Zach Wilson
[00:02:18] We got two vats in the room
[00:02:20] We got two vats in the room
[00:02:23] We have the oldest quarterback room in the AFC West
[00:02:28] What's not to be excited about
[00:02:31] When you're right, you're right
[00:02:34] But I'm curious I guess where you swayed at all
[00:02:41] I saw a lot of media personalities talking about
[00:02:46] You know after listening to Sean Payton about seeing some stuff
[00:02:50] They really do like the pic
[00:02:52] And if you like the guy, go get your guy
[00:02:55] Something you were talking about
[00:02:57] I said that on the last podcast
[00:02:59] I said if you like the guy, go get your guy
[00:03:01] Rate your excitement here on a scale of 1 to 10
[00:03:07] My excitement is at a 2
[00:03:12] Tell me what excitement means
[00:03:15] Like I'm excited for this year
[00:03:17] I'm excited for the next five years
[00:03:19] For the Bonix era
[00:03:21] You think that this draft pic will be a meaningful moment in the Broncos franchise
[00:03:26] In a positive way
[00:03:27] There is no Bonix era
[00:03:29] This is a fraud
[00:03:32] There is nothing resembling a Bonix era
[00:03:37] You're right to frame it that way
[00:03:40] Because we just spent whatever top 15 pic on him
[00:03:44] And it's quarterback so it's a value position
[00:03:46] You're right to frame it that way
[00:03:48] But that is not what's going to happen
[00:03:50] Bonix does not have the talent to make that happen
[00:03:53] So I'm disappointed
[00:03:59] I feel very strongly in my heart of hearts
[00:04:03] As a person who watches football
[00:04:05] That I'm right on this
[00:04:08] I'm also willing to be wrong
[00:04:12] I kind of hope I am
[00:04:13] I'd be thrilled to be wrong
[00:04:14] I kind of hope I am
[00:04:15] I feel like I'm going to get attacked on this
[00:04:18] Like Dave Chappelle was attacked when he went on Saturday Night Live after Trump was elected
[00:04:24] And said, I'm going to give him a chance
[00:04:27] I feel like Dave Chappelle at that moment where he was like
[00:04:30] I'm going to give him a chance
[00:04:31] And then 30 seconds later
[00:04:33] Trump did something wild
[00:04:34] And Chappelle was like, alright, well, I tried
[00:04:37] That's how I'm going to treat the Bonix era of Broncos football
[00:04:41] Like the second he throws some crazy inaccurate ball downfield
[00:04:47] I'm going to be like, well, he was protected
[00:04:52] And people hated him and Auburn
[00:04:54] And then he went to the school, the college
[00:04:57] That I probably hate the most in my heart of hearts
[00:05:00] Like I'm really struggling to come back on the bandwagon
[00:05:05] You know, we've been through the Russell Wilson debacle
[00:05:08] You got out of practice, Ryan
[00:05:10] But come on in, buddy
[00:05:12] I don't want to
[00:05:14] I don't want to
[00:05:16] I want to go back to the tour
[00:05:17] Producer Dan
[00:05:19] No, that's not allowed
[00:05:22] We negotiated with Terrace
[00:05:26] And we got Russell Wilson out of town
[00:05:28] Me and Dan specifically
[00:05:30] We got him out of town so that we could have you back
[00:05:33] You said you'd be back
[00:05:34] There was no Bonix clause
[00:05:36] There was none of that
[00:05:37] You're back
[00:05:38] There should have been an Oregon clause
[00:05:40] It's not even Bonix
[00:05:42] Although we have to say something about his hairstyle
[00:05:46] I mean, that does not inspire confidence
[00:05:49] What you're doing with that hair
[00:05:51] You mean the White Freddie Prince Jr?
[00:05:53] Dude
[00:05:54] Like where is this guy from?
[00:05:58] Where has he been?
[00:05:59] I mean Eugene
[00:06:00] Clearly he's been in Eugene
[00:06:02] And the Eugene has taken hold of Bonix
[00:06:05] And that is not a good thing
[00:06:06] That's not a compliment
[00:06:07] That's not something you want in a franchise quarterback
[00:06:09] Nobody wants any part of Eugene on them ever
[00:06:13] So just be careful out there, I think
[00:06:16] And the team is...
[00:06:18] The tips are wild
[00:06:19] It's not good
[00:06:21] But...
[00:06:22] There's so much gel, Kyle
[00:06:24] Yeah
[00:06:25] He means to do it
[00:06:27] He means to do it
[00:06:28] It's not like he takes off a hat
[00:06:30] No, no, no, no
[00:06:31] It's not frazzled
[00:06:33] It's like he spends a lot of time
[00:06:37] Yeah
[00:06:38] Time could be spent watching film
[00:06:41] Or working on his arm strength
[00:06:44] Yeah, I'm concerned
[00:06:47] But a man who texted us as we were preparing for the show
[00:06:51] And said, you know what?
[00:06:53] I'm gonna choose happiness
[00:06:55] I love Bonix
[00:06:58] You know, he went so far as to say
[00:07:01] Dix for Nix
[00:07:03] He went right in there
[00:07:05] And he also is still giving Trump a chance
[00:07:09] He's still giving Trump a chance
[00:07:11] Yeah, he's been consistent
[00:07:16] Dan, we wanted to bring you on here
[00:07:18] Because we knew we were gonna be
[00:07:20] May saying kind of negative Nancy's
[00:07:23] We wanted to provide time for the other side
[00:07:26] What has given you hope?
[00:07:28] Was it the Sean Payton press conference?
[00:07:30] Was it Bonix's availability today?
[00:07:33] Because Sean really put on the full court press
[00:07:37] That guy, anyone who would put a mic in front of him
[00:07:40] He was telling them what a genius he is
[00:07:42] And how good Bonix is
[00:07:45] This is a big swing here, Dan
[00:07:48] But you decided to find joy
[00:07:50] He was comparing it to when the chief swooped in
[00:07:53] And took Patrick Mahomes
[00:07:55] That's how he feels about Bonix
[00:07:58] I guess, tell us more about
[00:08:01] How you and your friend Sean are feeling about this
[00:08:04] Yeah
[00:08:06] Look, I was big on Penex
[00:08:10] That's who I wanted
[00:08:12] I need bigger Penex in my life
[00:08:15] But he went to the Falcons for reasons unknown
[00:08:20] They're gonna convert him to tight end
[00:08:22] But like, we knew this was gonna happen from the beginning
[00:08:25] He's been the betting favorite for a month
[00:08:27] For the Broncos
[00:08:29] I don't know who was blindsided by this
[00:08:31] I want a bunch of money because I bet on it
[00:08:34] We knew it was gonna be Bo
[00:08:36] We've been miserable since 2016
[00:08:40] Miserable
[00:08:42] Why chew?
[00:08:43] We just got rid of Russ
[00:08:45] Who made us more miserable
[00:08:48] Why choose misery?
[00:08:50] No one knows how these draft picks are gonna work
[00:08:52] No one does
[00:08:54] I don't think anybody is really good at picking these people
[00:08:58] None of these guys could work out
[00:09:00] These are the words of a truly broken man
[00:09:04] You have to respect it
[00:09:06] Why choose misery?
[00:09:08] This is Broncos nation at its core right now
[00:09:11] It's just like, well, we all know it's gonna be bad
[00:09:15] But I'm gonna choose to be optimistic about it
[00:09:18] Until I see this guy be worse than any other quarterback
[00:09:21] We've had in the last few years
[00:09:23] Vic Lombardi is gonna go on the radio tomorrow
[00:09:26] And be like, I actually think we have John L. Wayne and Patrick Mahomes
[00:09:31] If they were together
[00:09:33] That's stupid
[00:09:34] That's silly
[00:09:35] Okay, Dan, here's my only problem with your theory
[00:09:39] If I knew that Ryan a month from now
[00:09:47] Was going to ring your doorbell
[00:09:51] And the moment you answered it
[00:09:53] He was gonna punch you in the dick as hard as he could
[00:09:56] And I had this information, Dan
[00:09:59] Wouldn't you want me to tell you that Ryan was coming to punch you in the dick in a month?
[00:10:05] And wouldn't you think I would be a bad friend
[00:10:08] If I said nothing to you and just allowed your genitals to get rocked
[00:10:13] By an uppercut from Ryan
[00:10:15] Putting your testicles inside of your body
[00:10:18] In an uncomfortable and frankly disturbing way
[00:10:21] Yeah, but you don't know that he's coming to punch me in the nuts
[00:10:24] You can't tell me that
[00:10:26] You don't know 100% this guy
[00:10:28] This guy could be Trevor Simeon
[00:10:30] Okay, terrible
[00:10:31] But not like anything worse we've had
[00:10:34] If he was Trevor Simeon
[00:10:36] That would be exceeding my expectations
[00:10:39] That would be great
[00:10:41] Stop it
[00:10:42] Oh, stop it
[00:10:43] Hold on
[00:10:44] That would be unreal
[00:10:45] Remember when they did that interview
[00:10:47] Okay, hold on Kyle
[00:10:49] With the Brady
[00:10:51] Because we were like three in one or something
[00:10:55] I do remember that
[00:10:57] But let's get realistic about this
[00:11:00] So we have it
[00:11:01] We're not gonna turn back time
[00:11:03] Unfortunately, Sean Payton's neck can't take back what he said on the Pat McAfee show
[00:11:09] Um, I...
[00:11:15] Let's just pause there
[00:11:16] It was a rough looking interview
[00:11:18] Oh my god
[00:11:19] And someone from the Broncos should have stepped in
[00:11:21] That's how you know Sean has been too powerful
[00:11:23] Who let him answer that call on his iPhone?
[00:11:27] What are we doing?
[00:11:29] Everybody else is like
[00:11:31] Actually has a conference call room
[00:11:34] Yeah
[00:11:35] Alright
[00:11:36] Well, let's get to it then Kyle
[00:11:38] You brought up power
[00:11:39] So let's talk about who made this pick
[00:11:41] Let's talk about who we get to blame
[00:11:43] If this goes poorly
[00:11:45] Sean Payton made this pick a hundred percent
[00:11:48] Everything George Payton did leading up to this was like
[00:11:51] We don't have to force it
[00:11:53] Here I've taken Zach Wilson
[00:11:55] You know, please God, don't waste this pick
[00:11:58] On this 50 year old man out of
[00:12:02] Who flunked out of the SEC
[00:12:05] And then went to community college in Eugene
[00:12:08] And lit it up
[00:12:10] It's uh, yeah
[00:12:13] So I think Sean Payton a hundred percent loved Bonix
[00:12:18] All the reports were out there
[00:12:19] He put it out there
[00:12:21] Um, he continued to really do all the press
[00:12:26] Right? Like for it
[00:12:28] George Payton wasn't as vocal
[00:12:31] Um, as he has been in the previous ones
[00:12:34] I literally just googled
[00:12:35] So I think this is definitely a Sean Payton
[00:12:38] Laid his penis across George Payton's forehead
[00:12:45] I am, I just googled to see if George Payton had said anything
[00:12:52] Like I can't even find a quote from him after the draft
[00:12:55] This guy got absolutely John L. Wade
[00:12:58] He is sitting in a booth in L. Wade's steakhouse
[00:13:03] Not doing a single thing
[00:13:05] Uh, I mean John L. Wade was a figurehead for that entire time
[00:13:09] And honestly the, the Penner family just seems too proud to say that they made a mistake
[00:13:15] And they had a little bit of new owner syndrome
[00:13:18] And they just couldn't quite figure out who to make the general manager
[00:13:23] And they liked what the Vikings were doing
[00:13:25] And they thought that we were going to get Aaron Rodgers and all these things
[00:13:30] So that's all fine, you know, it's all fine
[00:13:34] I, you're absolutely correct though
[00:13:38] That this rests with Sean Payton and his neck
[00:13:42] Um, and we can't let the latter half of that get off scot-free
[00:13:46] Because honestly I think there is something that has taken over him
[00:13:50] Uh, this is not the Sean Payton that we saw in that wonderful Disney film
[00:13:55] Uh, this is, this is a different man
[00:13:58] And I think we have to get to the bottom of it
[00:14:00] And I think the bottom of it begins right here
[00:14:04] I, uh, I think there's more Sean Payton from the Disney film than when I saw him on The Saints
[00:14:11] I'll tell you that
[00:14:12] This current Sean Payton, Payton could eat that Sean Payton
[00:14:16] It wouldn't even be full
[00:14:18] He actually looks like a tire
[00:14:20] He looks like he's carrying around a tire
[00:14:24] It's, it's incredible
[00:14:26] Like I've never seen anybody gain weight in that specific way
[00:14:31] I mean honestly Michelin needs to consider a sponsorship
[00:14:35] Uh, I know that they have the fives or the stars for restaurants
[00:14:39] Like I think there's an obvious collaboration
[00:14:42] He could wear a tire in
[00:14:44] He could sit at the nice restaurant, have his meal
[00:14:48] It'd be a wonderful thing
[00:14:50] Honestly he, you know, um, when you can see more than his neck
[00:14:55] He seems like a relatively interesting person to talk to
[00:14:58] So I think it would be a nice show
[00:15:00] It'd sort of be like a Peyton's Places
[00:15:02] You know, you could even name it Peyton's Places
[00:15:04] It could be on the Omaha Network
[00:15:06] Um, but I'd do anything to have him
[00:15:09] You're giving away too much right now
[00:15:10] I'd, I'd do anything to not have him coach this team
[00:15:14] I think he's just one of the most unlikable people in Denver right now
[00:15:19] The smugness of this man is truly just
[00:15:22] It's unreal
[00:15:23] It's like, listen, I've back on it like when the Saints were good
[00:15:28] And I was like, did I just never listen to a Saints press conference?
[00:15:33] Like did he become this way?
[00:15:36] What's going on?
[00:15:39] Sometimes I think it, well the Saints probably feel this way too
[00:15:44] Where it's like, you all just didn't realize what we were having to deal with
[00:15:49] Because we're like kind of a mid-market to everybody else
[00:15:52] Like everybody in New Orleans really cares about the Saints
[00:15:55] Everybody in Denver really cares about the Saints
[00:15:57] But it's not like you're watching a, a Sean Peyton, a Saints press conference that often
[00:16:03] You know, when they won that Super Bowl it was all about breeze
[00:16:06] Or, uh, not, not breeze
[00:16:09] No, breeze?
[00:16:10] Yeah, breeze
[00:16:11] Yeah, yeah
[00:16:12] Well he had Katrina, like he had pretty likable things to my top
[00:16:17] And those teams were super likable
[00:16:19] I always loved those Saints too because they just aired it out, it was fun
[00:16:25] But, yeah
[00:16:27] Not likable here
[00:16:29] I think we all agree on that
[00:16:31] No
[00:16:32] He, well, I think again his neck is not likable
[00:16:37] I'm not sure about the human being
[00:16:39] I think we have to just get to the bottom of the neck
[00:16:41] And then we'll figure out what's wrong with Sean Peyton
[00:16:45] Just honestly terrible work from the Broncos PR team
[00:16:48] Like someone's gotta be like, hey you're gonna go on this with what?
[00:16:51] I'm just gonna hold it
[00:16:53] Not if you're gonna, you cannot
[00:16:55] Underneath your, underneath your jaw?
[00:16:57] You're gonna hold it underneath your jaw?
[00:17:00] Nobody in person thing to do
[00:17:02] Oh 100%
[00:17:03] Like that's just
[00:17:04] It's like a grandpa talking on FaceTime
[00:17:06] Yeah
[00:17:07] It's likable if it wasn't the person who's in charge of your football team
[00:17:11] Yeah
[00:17:12] It's like, oh you should have seen what grandpa did
[00:17:15] You know, unbelievable
[00:17:17] Grandpa on the FaceTime at Christmas
[00:17:20] His jowls
[00:17:22] Like we would be endlessly making fun of him
[00:17:25] Dad is still in high school
[00:17:27] And just keep drafting him to play quarterback
[00:17:30] Yeah
[00:17:31] John's in the corner like
[00:17:33] I'm actually
[00:17:34] Time for a match
[00:17:37] Valorantchewskiin just scored
[00:17:40] We're just updating you
[00:17:41] We just have a 3-2 victory
[00:17:43] Well, not a victory
[00:17:45] But a lead for the ass
[00:17:47] But it's gonna be a victory, it's fine
[00:17:51] But anyway
[00:17:52] I think that the power structure in that franchise is screwed up
[00:17:57] And I think that they wasted an opportunity here
[00:18:00] I think the more
[00:18:03] Hindsight being 20-20
[00:18:05] Okay, so we drafted this edge
[00:18:08] From I think Utah on day two
[00:18:11] Who seems like he's kind of athletic
[00:18:13] And meant to sort of keep up with the AFC West
[00:18:16] Like that makes sense
[00:18:17] That's a draft pick that I don't know anything about this player
[00:18:20] Like I'm not watching Utah football
[00:18:22] Nobody is watching Utah football
[00:18:24] But if he's good, that's great
[00:18:28] It seems like a need
[00:18:29] It was definitely a need
[00:18:30] And it seems like the type of player that you would want
[00:18:33] In a spot where you're in the division with Patrick Mahomes
[00:18:36] That's fine
[00:18:38] But
[00:18:39] Hindsight being 20-20
[00:18:41] To not trade out of this pick seems like just a massive miss
[00:18:46] And I think
[00:18:48] True Hindsight being 20-20
[00:18:50] You would have done it before the draft
[00:18:52] And tried to bait the writers or somebody
[00:18:54] Into thinking that they could have got pennex at 11
[00:18:58] And just pick up a boatload of second round picks
[00:19:01] Because you need talent on this team
[00:19:03] Like you need offensive linemen
[00:19:04] You need these things
[00:19:05] And it doesn't matter
[00:19:06] You should suck with whoever stood them at quarterback
[00:19:10] If Sean Payton actually believes that there was no problem
[00:19:13] In the quarterback room before this
[00:19:15] Then there was no problem
[00:19:16] So go with stood him
[00:19:18] What are we talking about?
[00:19:19] I just like
[00:19:21] It seems incompetent in just all the wrong ways
[00:19:25] It seems like he has an incredible pro day
[00:19:27] And Sean Payton got a boner
[00:19:30] And unfortunately the tire did not slow that boner down
[00:19:34] It went straight to his brain
[00:19:40] So anyway
[00:19:41] We're gonna give the Broncos draft a B plus
[00:19:47] The third round pick
[00:19:49] You're right that the position sounds good
[00:19:51] Athleticism sounds good
[00:19:55] I'm gonna reserve judgment
[00:19:58] Not until the actual season
[00:20:01] Or anything like that
[00:20:02] Until training camp
[00:20:04] If he fights Garrett Bowles
[00:20:06] Immediately upon getting there
[00:20:08] And he's like
[00:20:09] You're a disgrace to Utah
[00:20:11] You corny goofball
[00:20:13] Then automatic A
[00:20:15] From me
[00:20:18] Will love him as a player
[00:20:21] I didn't even know they went to the same school
[00:20:25] D
[00:20:27] Because then he might like Garrett Bowles
[00:20:29] And we can't have two of these
[00:20:31] I think Garrett Bowles is probably in our draft for him
[00:20:33] Now that I know that they're from the same school
[00:20:36] I wouldn't be surprised if Garrett Bowles
[00:20:38] May have pulled the trigger on that pick
[00:20:41] There's nothing that would surprise me with this franchise
[00:20:45] You know who's
[00:20:47] Number two in my Broncos power ranking here
[00:20:52] Tony Schaeffler
[00:20:55] The X-Tide N to announce the Broncos pick
[00:20:58] Number one came out in a sweet jacket
[00:21:02] Number two called to put Mike Shanahan in the Hall of Fame
[00:21:06] And then
[00:21:08] Was just
[00:21:10] The most Bronco of Broncos
[00:21:12] Out there
[00:21:13] And looked cool
[00:21:14] Had kind of a little half-mullet thing going on
[00:21:17] It was awesome
[00:21:18] So he
[00:21:19] I want him involved with the franchise in some way
[00:21:22] In whatever role he'll take
[00:21:23] Honestly
[00:21:24] I'd be like
[00:21:25] You can have whoever's job you want
[00:21:30] I would
[00:21:31] I'd be directing him at Sean's
[00:21:33] Honestly
[00:21:36] You can coach the team Tony
[00:21:38] Seems like you're a pretty chill guy
[00:21:40] Honestly
[00:21:41] Like what is coaching at this point
[00:21:43] Like if Mike McDaniel is really a genius
[00:21:47] You know
[00:21:48] Like he's basically playing Madden
[00:21:51] And seems like a cool guy to hang out with
[00:21:54] So like
[00:21:55] I feel like I'm qualified then
[00:21:57] Like I'd have to brush up on my Madden
[00:22:00] To be fair
[00:22:01] But I think I could
[00:22:03] Be fine in an NFL locker room
[00:22:05] But just be like
[00:22:06] Yeah man
[00:22:07] You guys are really cool and big and strong
[00:22:09] You should do more of that
[00:22:11] Be cool and big and strong
[00:22:13] And really believe in yourself guys
[00:22:15] That sounds good
[00:22:16] Offensive coordinators
[00:22:18] You got this?
[00:22:19] Yep, every coordinator
[00:22:20] I don't know jack shit about football
[00:22:23] Just here to be vibes
[00:22:25] Vibes coordinator
[00:22:26] I think that's all head coaching is really
[00:22:28] You're the Ted Lasso of the NFL
[00:22:31] Yes
[00:22:32] Limited game knowledge
[00:22:34] But just great vibes
[00:22:35] I actually did have a moment like this
[00:22:38] If we want a little Ryan storytime
[00:22:40] I did have a moment like this
[00:22:42] In when I was working at a university
[00:22:45] For a soccer team
[00:22:47] And they left an assistant coach
[00:22:51] At home and took me on the trip
[00:22:54] Mostly as like the logistics guy
[00:22:57] You know I was picking up food
[00:22:59] And doing all those sorts of things
[00:23:01] But we were at this like shared workspace
[00:23:06] And their game planning
[00:23:08] They just played Stanford
[00:23:13] And they were about to play Cal
[00:23:15] And you know I'm watching the games
[00:23:19] You know I played some soccer growing up
[00:23:21] We were pretty decent soccer players growing up
[00:23:23] You know I know what's going on in a game
[00:23:25] And they just sort of shooting the shit
[00:23:30] And one of the assistant coaches
[00:23:34] Looks at me and goes Ryan what would you do
[00:23:36] And I was like well
[00:23:38] Love me tell you I've been thinking about it all day
[00:23:41] And I was basically just like
[00:23:43] I'm gonna play it like I'm gonna play FIFA
[00:23:45] I'm gonna put my fastest guy on the outside
[00:23:47] I'm gonna run at that defender
[00:23:49] And just tire him out like
[00:23:51] I'm gonna be playing deep balls
[00:23:53] I'm gonna be playing diagonals
[00:23:55] I'm gonna be playing chip shots
[00:23:56] Like I'm just gonna run that person to death
[00:23:59] But I really do think that at a certain point
[00:24:03] You can't command a room like Sean Payton
[00:24:08] And be good at the job
[00:24:11] Like you can't be not throwing out wild ideas
[00:24:17] And receptive to change
[00:24:19] Like you can't be stuck in the mud
[00:24:22] And also seem like kind of an asshole
[00:24:27] It's just not a very good strategy
[00:24:31] And to be a smug asshole is particularly not a good strategy
[00:24:36] So I'm
[00:24:38] To be a losing head coach who's a smug asshole
[00:24:41] It'd be one thing if we went 12 and 5 last year
[00:24:45] It'd be like dude you should talk a bunch of shit
[00:24:48] Like that's unbelievable
[00:24:49] You kind of called your shot
[00:24:51] You made fun of the previous coach
[00:24:53] And then went out there and crushed
[00:24:55] One of the talking points I heard today
[00:24:57] I had a flawless season
[00:24:59] And one of the talking points I heard today
[00:25:01] Was about how it's like
[00:25:03] Oh he's got somebody he can believe in now
[00:25:05] Like I don't care if you believe in him
[00:25:08] It is your job to make that person better
[00:25:11] And to optimize whatever they are
[00:25:13] Like this is not the Sean Payton show
[00:25:16] Like this is the Denver Broncos at the end of the day
[00:25:19] So you have to work within the bounds of what you're given
[00:25:24] And unfortunately like nobody including me
[00:25:27] Obviously I'm not defending Russell Wilson in any way
[00:25:30] But it was clear that Sean had given up on him
[00:25:35] Like he wasn't even trying to scheme him
[00:25:37] To be successful
[00:25:39] So I think it's a very frustrating time
[00:25:45] To be a Broncos fan yet again
[00:25:48] Yeah welcome aboard
[00:25:51] Dan and I will fill you in on the
[00:25:54] How to hype yourself up during the off season
[00:25:57] It's the best part of the fan
[00:25:59] Fandom honestly
[00:26:00] I was talking myself into Broncos talent
[00:26:02] We'll show you some of the finer points
[00:26:05] I was uh I've been moving
[00:26:07] And I went through some of my cards today
[00:26:10] And I found a couple of the um
[00:26:12] Certain rookie cards that I invested in early
[00:26:16] And I was like ah man I'm so excited about these
[00:26:19] So yeah it's alright
[00:26:22] I'm also gonna be putting up a Super Bowl Champions
[00:26:25] Poster in my office from the
[00:26:29] The 1998 win over Green Bay
[00:26:33] Shannon Sharp featured prominently
[00:26:36] Yeah he's center
[00:26:38] He's center and John O. is right above him
[00:26:41] So yeah
[00:26:43] It's a beautiful thing
[00:26:45] Speaking of a beautiful thing
[00:26:47] Let's move on to the nuggets
[00:26:49] The nuggets are up
[00:26:51] Three to nothing on the Lakers
[00:26:55] Last night I was watching game three
[00:26:58] In my living room
[00:27:00] My wife had just gotten home
[00:27:02] From a work trip and was sitting there
[00:27:05] Clearly communicating that she was a little bit tired
[00:27:08] And would not mind going upstairs early
[00:27:13] It was at this point
[00:27:15] That Michael Porter hit the step back
[00:27:17] Over Anthony Davis
[00:27:19] And I just started laughing
[00:27:21] In our living room
[00:27:23] Because the Lakers were trying so hard
[00:27:26] We rested Yokoch
[00:27:28] And they were like we'll play LeBron and AD through
[00:27:32] Like clearly being like hey we're gonna get this 10 point lead down
[00:27:36] Like we're gonna gain ground here
[00:27:39] And then you know hopefully put pressure on
[00:27:41] For him to come in early or something like that
[00:27:44] And then they just lost ground
[00:27:47] Dude I forgot that Yokoch wasn't in the game
[00:27:50] I honestly it slipped my mind
[00:27:53] When he came back in the game
[00:27:55] I had the same laughing moment as when you
[00:27:58] When MPJ hit the step back
[00:28:00] He came back in the game and was like oh no
[00:28:03] I thought he was out there this whole time
[00:28:05] You guys are so screwed
[00:28:07] Like this is done
[00:28:10] So yeah it was a fun game
[00:28:13] So my biggest take away from this series
[00:28:21] Is that I still think
[00:28:27] That sometimes the nuggets are a little reluctant to take low hanging fruit
[00:28:35] As far as teams are obviously doubling
[00:28:42] And trying to do things to take away Yokoch in the post
[00:28:46] Everyone doubles Yokoch
[00:28:48] But they still double you
[00:28:53] And like in the first half
[00:28:55] There was one time the Lakers just came a little early
[00:28:59] Or something and then it was
[00:29:03] Oh
[00:29:06] KCP just gets to walk into a wide open three off a kick out
[00:29:10] Or you just force so many rotations
[00:29:14] And so many things to go right
[00:29:16] That it just feels like a pretty obvious
[00:29:20] Way to start your offense
[00:29:23] And too often the nuggets have had them in different places
[00:29:31] Do you think that's something that's this matchup specific
[00:29:34] Or with potentially Minnesota coming
[00:29:38] Is that something that concerns you
[00:29:41] That the nuggets are going to get kind of too cute
[00:29:45] In staying away from the Yokoch post ups
[00:29:48] Because it doesn't like get you direct points with Yokoch
[00:29:53] I'm not, well
[00:29:56] Okay so I think there's two separate questions
[00:29:58] I think it is somewhat matchup dependent
[00:30:01] I think AD, like
[00:30:04] They're just going to double him immediately
[00:30:06] So I think that changes the way you play the post
[00:30:10] And I think Yokoch knows that we're best when the ball is in his hands
[00:30:16] So he wants to stay out of the post a little bit
[00:30:19] To avoid the easy double and make them hard double onto him
[00:30:24] And sort of just make that like it's
[00:30:27] That's my impression at least
[00:30:29] I mean I watch every game but
[00:30:32] Who knows
[00:30:34] So I think the but
[00:30:37] I am worried about that in the Minnesota series
[00:30:42] I think Yokoch is going to have to take over a series like that
[00:30:45] I don't think that
[00:30:47] Well MPJ is a problem for them
[00:30:52] Because they don't really have anybody tall enough
[00:30:55] But MPJ is a problem for everybody
[00:30:59] But I don't think we can rely on him like he's been playing
[00:31:02] And I don't think we could rely on Aaron Gordon in the same way with Rudy Goubert
[00:31:06] The rim, like
[00:31:07] I think Minnesota is a very tough matchup for the Nuggets
[00:31:10] And I think
[00:31:12] I'm hoping that the Suns can sort of give them a little bit of an issue
[00:31:19] But it doesn't necessarily seem like they're going to be putting up much of a road block at this point
[00:31:24] So I think the Nuggets are going to be looking at the Timberwolves
[00:31:28] I do want to rewind a little bit because we haven't talked since game
[00:31:33] Since game 2
[00:31:36] I want to know how you consumed that shot
[00:31:45] It was at home
[00:31:50] In my bed alone
[00:31:53] On my phone
[00:31:55] The way God intended it
[00:31:57] And then I have since consumed it
[00:32:01] About a million times
[00:32:04] So
[00:32:06] For those that don't know, Ryan and I do have season tickets
[00:32:09] I couldn't go
[00:32:11] Wife was out of town
[00:32:13] Single parent in it
[00:32:15] And so
[00:32:17] Ryan was at the game
[00:32:19] And for a long portion
[00:32:21] I was like, thank God I didn't go to this game
[00:32:23] Like I'd have been so pissed the whole time
[00:32:26] But instead missed out on a Seminole Nuggets playoff memory
[00:32:33] Honestly though
[00:32:35] I was going to
[00:32:37] Unreal moment
[00:32:39] You stole my thunder a little bit because I was going to say
[00:32:42] It was just a brutal game to watch
[00:32:46] Both of those teams were trying to lose actively
[00:32:50] And it was just tough for most of the game
[00:32:56] And when that comeback started happening
[00:33:00] I was like
[00:33:02] We're winning this game
[00:33:06] And even in the moment
[00:33:08] It was a little bit, I mean
[00:33:10] I will say I don't think I've heard
[00:33:12] We've been in some big moments in that arena
[00:33:15] I mean we've seen some huge shots
[00:33:17] I still think that the Embiid Sixers
[00:33:21] Game winner essentially over Embiid
[00:33:25] Is probably the biggest pop in the arena I've ever heard
[00:33:29] Live
[00:33:31] But I think that this is second
[00:33:34] And the just sheer joy of like
[00:33:38] Ah, it's the Lakers too
[00:33:41] Was, yeah
[00:33:42] It's perfect
[00:33:43] And you know
[00:33:45] Part of me hopes that we sweep them
[00:33:47] Part of me hopes that we
[00:33:49] Lose this next game so I can sell my Game 5 ticket
[00:33:53] But
[00:33:55] Because we're definitely winning in 5
[00:33:57] There's no way
[00:33:58] I mean the body language of these Lakers
[00:34:01] Are so dejected
[00:34:03] Did you see that they listed
[00:34:06] AED as questionable
[00:34:08] With a left wrist sprain for Game 4
[00:34:12] The Bron is probable with tendonitis
[00:34:16] But they want you to know he's injured
[00:34:19] And AED's been playing through it too
[00:34:22] So it's just two heroes
[00:34:25] I can't wait for Yokoch's first act of
[00:34:30] His top three NBA career ever
[00:34:35] Being retiring LeBron James
[00:34:40] Just
[00:34:41] Ah, yeah you couldn't
[00:34:43] You just literally couldn't beat me
[00:34:46] So
[00:34:48] Sorry buddy but
[00:34:50] Have fun in Cancun
[00:34:53] Yeah this is
[00:34:55] It's not a divisional team that we've retired
[00:35:01] Which the Nuggets have retired AED
[00:35:03] The Jazz
[00:35:05] The Blazers with Lil Air
[00:35:08] We've taken out some conference
[00:35:11] Fos along the way
[00:35:13] I was literally there when we retired the Blazers
[00:35:16] It was one of the happiest moments of my life
[00:35:19] It was awesome
[00:35:21] So it's not divisional
[00:35:24] But it does feel very personal still
[00:35:27] With all the history with the Lakers
[00:35:30] And how many times
[00:35:31] Just kind of big brothered
[00:35:33] The Nuggets
[00:35:34] I haven't told you about this
[00:35:37] They can't bring this team back
[00:35:39] No, no they can't
[00:35:41] But I do have a little
[00:35:43] You want anything but to live in LA
[00:35:45] You can't resign with the Lakers now
[00:35:48] No
[00:35:49] We do need to pause this because
[00:35:51] I do have a crazy little story time from the game
[00:35:54] So we have our four seats
[00:35:56] And then the two seats next to us
[00:35:58] So Sophie and I were there
[00:36:00] And these two kids are sitting next to us
[00:36:04] And they're probably about the same age
[00:36:06] As when we went to that Lakers Nuggets game
[00:36:10] For the playoffs
[00:36:12] And I just remember all of those fans being insane
[00:36:15] And everybody cursing and being like
[00:36:17] This is awesome
[00:36:18] Like I want to be here all the time
[00:36:22] But those kids
[00:36:24] They just reminded me of us
[00:36:26] Little
[00:36:28] But there were no parents to
[00:36:30] Just like
[00:36:32] 15 year old brother
[00:36:34] And probably like 8 year old brother
[00:36:36] Going nuts the entire time
[00:36:39] So props to those parents
[00:36:41] Sending their kid
[00:36:42] And props to me for
[00:36:44] Not saying some wild things
[00:36:46] About LeBron James during the game
[00:36:51] Not all heroes wear capes, right?
[00:36:53] Not all heroes wear capes
[00:36:56] So
[00:36:58] I think
[00:37:00] Looking ahead to this
[00:37:04] I think the next series at this point
[00:37:08] And it really looks like it's going to be the Timberwolves
[00:37:11] As we're recording there
[00:37:13] About 18 on the
[00:37:15] Sons
[00:37:16] They're gonna win
[00:37:17] It's gonna be
[00:37:18] It might be a sweet
[00:37:20] So
[00:37:23] This feels like
[00:37:25] A classic
[00:37:27] Old school
[00:37:30] Does great defense beat great offense
[00:37:33] Because the Timberwolves have stretches
[00:37:36] Even against the Sons
[00:37:38] Who are not as good
[00:37:40] Defensively as the Nuggets are
[00:37:42] They have stretches where they just do not score
[00:37:45] And they're really good defensively
[00:37:47] So it doesn't blow them out of games
[00:37:50] But
[00:37:54] If these games are played in the hundreds
[00:37:57] Consistently
[00:37:59] The Timberwolves are hosed
[00:38:01] That means that
[00:38:03] They're having to hit a lot of shots against this team
[00:38:07] So
[00:38:08] How do you feel heading into that potential matchup?
[00:38:13] Obviously Minnesota at full strength smoked the Aves
[00:38:17] And then the Aves were able to beat them
[00:38:20] Without towns
[00:38:22] I'm sorry the Nuggets were able to beat them
[00:38:25] I'm watching the Aves
[00:38:28] So how are you feeling going into this series?
[00:38:31] Obviously we both have the Zons coming out of this
[00:38:35] No I did not
[00:38:37] Oh no you had the wolves you're right
[00:38:41] This is the series that makes me the most nervous
[00:38:46] I don't think that there's anybody
[00:38:49] That can physically match up with us
[00:38:52] As well as the Timberwolves do
[00:38:54] They're just long
[00:38:56] They're not as offensively talented
[00:38:58] But they are long
[00:39:00] They've got Nasrid
[00:39:02] They've got Alexander Walker
[00:39:05] They have a lot of length on that team
[00:39:08] Outside of obviously Rudy Gubar and Carl Anthony Tafts
[00:39:11] So I think they physically match up with us well
[00:39:15] But I do think over a seven game series
[00:39:19] They probably just can't quite keep up
[00:39:22] With what the Nuggets have to offer
[00:39:25] So yes I'm worried
[00:39:28] Anthony Edwards is also like
[00:39:32] Coming into something that is not
[00:39:37] I don't think that the casual NBA fan
[00:39:41] Truly realizes how good Anthony Edwards is right now
[00:39:46] So it could be a series like those Blazer series
[00:39:51] Where there's a young team going nuclear
[00:39:55] Against a team that's a little bit more seasoned
[00:39:59] And I think I'm still confident
[00:40:03] That we'll win this series
[00:40:05] But I think it's gonna be a six or seven game
[00:40:09] Yeah I think that
[00:40:14] This wolves team struggles to execute at times
[00:40:19] On offense which can be a problem
[00:40:22] And they just don't get as consistently
[00:40:25] As good of shots
[00:40:28] And Edwards can at times
[00:40:30] Allow himself to kind of be taken out of the game
[00:40:34] Who do we have guard one?
[00:40:37] I mean he had 13 points
[00:40:39] And you're not gonna get those games
[00:40:42] Also I think Edwards
[00:40:45] Teams just for whatever reason
[00:40:47] Don't really seem to bark at the Nuggets
[00:40:50] I mean the Nuggets are not like a big crap talking team
[00:40:53] But that doesn't stop
[00:40:55] Teams from talking stuff to each other
[00:40:58] I don't think Edwards is gonna be able to kind of fire himself up
[00:41:02] Against a KCP or an AG
[00:41:05] Or whoever's going against him
[00:41:08] And if he tries to do it
[00:41:11] Against the Murray
[00:41:15] Then we've seen how that worked out for
[00:41:19] Other players you do not want to talk stuff to Jamal Murray
[00:41:23] He will flambe
[00:41:27] On the other end
[00:41:29] The biggest thing for me though here
[00:41:33] Is how is this game gonna be officiated
[00:41:37] Because
[00:41:40] If they allow McDaniels to play
[00:41:43] Insanely physical with Jamal Murray
[00:41:47] That is bad for the Nuggets
[00:41:51] But if you get even a somewhat normal playoff whistle
[00:41:58] Then I think he could get in foul trouble very early
[00:42:02] I don't think we can rule out
[00:42:05] Jaden McDaniels punching a wall
[00:42:07] And not being available for this series
[00:42:09] They look like they might allow the Suns back into this game right now
[00:42:13] So I'm hoping against hope that Jaden will
[00:42:17] Find himself a wall to punch
[00:42:20] Because that was extremely helpful last year
[00:42:23] When we had to go through the demo walls
[00:42:26] I agree with everything you're saying
[00:42:29] I do just want to say that
[00:42:33] Anybody who is going to come at the Nuggets
[00:42:38] About their road in the playoffs
[00:42:41] Over the last two years
[00:42:43] Needs to really reevaluate what they're looking at
[00:42:47] Because this Lakers team is good
[00:42:50] I actually think that they're a little bit better than last year's team
[00:42:54] And they can't score against us
[00:42:57] Our defense is underrated
[00:43:00] The Nuggets defense is underrated at this point
[00:43:03] They were a top 10 defensive team in the league this year
[00:43:09] This is not the Nuggets of old
[00:43:13] People do have to reevaluate a little bit about what we're looking at
[00:43:18] Anthony Edwards just provides a little bit of a matchup issue to me
[00:43:22] Because KCP is an unbelievable defender
[00:43:25] But he's a little bit too small
[00:43:27] And AG is an unbelievable defender
[00:43:29] But he's a little bit too slow
[00:43:31] You kind of have to
[00:43:33] I mean it's like a yokich
[00:43:35] Anthony Edwards is approaching that
[00:43:37] Where you have to build your game plan around him
[00:43:41] Yeah
[00:43:43] It's 100%
[00:43:45] If you lose this series as the Nuggets
[00:43:47] It's because Anthony Edwards went nuclear
[00:43:50] And you just couldn't quite match it
[00:43:54] But
[00:43:56] The other thing I wanted to mention
[00:43:59] About this series
[00:44:01] Is that
[00:44:03] For me it's hard to analyze this
[00:44:06] Because we've seen a C plus
[00:44:13] Version of the Nuggets so far
[00:44:16] And this C plus version won't be enough
[00:44:21] To get it down against the wolves
[00:44:23] But
[00:44:25] The A plus version
[00:44:28] And even the A minus version of the Nuggets
[00:44:32] There's no one in the NBA who can beat that
[00:44:35] So that's what to me has
[00:44:38] Made this playoffs a little tougher
[00:44:40] To handicap with this Nuggets team
[00:44:42] Is we haven't seen A or A minus from them
[00:44:46] As much as we did last year
[00:44:48] During the regular season
[00:44:50] Where there were some prime time games
[00:44:52] Where
[00:44:54] I mean the Nuggets just brought out the A
[00:44:56] Minus game and blew good teams off the floor
[00:44:59] Like Clippers, Memphis
[00:45:01] When they had John
[00:45:03] And the other guys healthy
[00:45:05] Not this year's Memphis
[00:45:07] So what do you think
[00:45:10] I guess what's your grade
[00:45:12] For this Nuggets team so far
[00:45:14] Like what do you think they're playing at
[00:45:16] And what encourages you
[00:45:19] Or discourages you about them
[00:45:21] Maybe reaching a higher height
[00:45:23] Yeah, I think it's
[00:45:25] Probably your grade
[00:45:28] Probably isn't wrong
[00:45:30] I'm not a huge fan of the Ude on one end of the floor
[00:45:33] So I'd probably give them a C plus
[00:45:36] Because I think the defense has been unbelievable
[00:45:39] I was looking at some offensive numbers
[00:45:43] Right, because I was trying to figure out
[00:45:45] What's wrong with the team
[00:45:47] And it's pretty much just born out
[00:45:50] In 3-point percentage
[00:45:52] Like that's it
[00:45:54] The only thing that we're missing from
[00:45:56] This entire team is 3-point percent
[00:45:58] They're shooting 27% from 3
[00:46:01] In the playoffs right now
[00:46:03] That's going to
[00:46:05] Regress back to the mean
[00:46:07] It's just like 30
[00:46:09] They're gonna shoot 35, 36, 37% from 3
[00:46:14] They just are
[00:46:15] You know what happens
[00:46:17] That's just the way basketball is
[00:46:19] They're too good of a team not to do that
[00:46:21] Especially from 3
[00:46:23] But the real point of this is
[00:46:25] I think
[00:46:27] What Yokochi is doing is sort of getting lost
[00:46:30] In the offensive struggles
[00:46:32] Because he's not struggling
[00:46:35] He's averaging 27, 15, and 8
[00:46:39] It's almost 28, 16, and 9
[00:46:43] If you round up it's 28, 16, and 9
[00:46:46] And he's doing that while he's shooting
[00:46:49] 61% from the floor
[00:46:52] Or 68% from 2, sorry
[00:46:54] 68% from 2-point range
[00:46:57] Like this is a man who we were just talking about
[00:47:00] Who isn't posting up
[00:47:02] And he's shooting 68% from 2, like
[00:47:06] It's...
[00:47:08] He is absolutely unbelievable
[00:47:11] And on a different planet
[00:47:13] And it just doesn't really matter
[00:47:15] What everybody else is doing
[00:47:17] Like KCP is shooting terribly
[00:47:20] This series
[00:47:22] He's shooting 26% from 3
[00:47:24] Like, I...
[00:47:26] You know, we need those things to increase
[00:47:29] But I think the point of this is that
[00:47:31] The stars are gonna...
[00:47:33] Are playing really well
[00:47:35] And in the playoffs
[00:47:37] I feel like at the end of the day
[00:47:39] Most of these series come down to
[00:47:41] How well did your stars play
[00:47:43] And I believe in
[00:47:46] Nikola Yokochi to play very well
[00:47:48] So everybody else just sort of has to
[00:47:51] Find their groove throughout the playoffs
[00:47:53] I actually don't...
[00:47:55] I hope that Phoenix can make a series of this
[00:48:00] A little bit
[00:48:01] I would love a couple extra days' rest
[00:48:04] Get some guys in the gym
[00:48:06] Get them shooting open shots and feeling good
[00:48:09] But I...
[00:48:11] I don't know
[00:48:13] I think that's...
[00:48:15] The defense is what makes me confident
[00:48:18] Because I think that that's replicable
[00:48:21] Those others
[00:48:23] They have to play a little bit better right now
[00:48:26] Aaron Gordon is carrying the rest of the team
[00:48:29] Besides Tramal and Nikola Yokochi
[00:48:31] So we just need some other people to play
[00:48:34] A little bit better
[00:48:35] And I think we'll be bumping that C-plus
[00:48:38] To an A-minus by the end of this Timber Wolf series
[00:48:43] That would be delightful
[00:48:45] Speaking of kind of others
[00:48:49] You mentioned him
[00:48:51] But I did want to give him his flowers
[00:48:54] Is Michael Porter Jr. went absolutely nuclear
[00:49:00] And, you know, Aaron Gordon was unbelievable
[00:49:04] But that game was one with...
[00:49:09] I mean, Michael Porter losing his mind in the second half
[00:49:13] Because...
[00:49:14] Well, he's shooting 48% from 3 in the plow
[00:49:18] Well, but he was aggressive going into his bag
[00:49:22] To get mid-range
[00:49:23] He was going at Rui
[00:49:26] It looked like he was very aggressive
[00:49:28] It was a weird game 3
[00:49:30] Because Yokochi was as uninvolved as I've seen him
[00:49:34] In a game plan
[00:49:35] There were just long stretches where he just kind of screened
[00:49:38] And, you know, absorbed a lot of attention
[00:49:41] Like, didn't really touch it or do anything special
[00:49:45] To just...
[00:49:46] No, it was just like Jamal and Porter picket roll
[00:49:50] Like, unstoppable
[00:49:52] As unstoppable as the Yokochi and Murray picket roll
[00:49:55] It was really fun to watch
[00:49:57] And he looked so much more comfortable on the court
[00:50:01] Like...
[00:50:03] Yeah, it's sort of baffling honestly
[00:50:06] Yeah, I think that...
[00:50:12] When it comes to an X factor in that series
[00:50:19] I think a Porter from game 3 of the Lakers makes...
[00:50:24] You have to make a lot of tough choices now if you're the Timberwolves
[00:50:29] Because then...
[00:50:30] Well, he...
[00:50:31] The obvious thing is to put Kat out there
[00:50:35] Because you go, okay, he has this...
[00:50:38] The length and he won't, you know, get shot over or whatever
[00:50:42] But then the problem is...
[00:50:44] Gordon's gonna torture you
[00:50:45] You're unlocking Aaron Gordon
[00:50:47] Because now you're guarding Aaron Gordon with someone undersized
[00:50:50] And he's gonna lurk
[00:50:52] And the help can't come off a Porter anymore
[00:50:55] So it's just, you know, you're gonna get murdered inside
[00:50:59] You could maybe take...
[00:51:04] McDaniels off of Murray
[00:51:07] But now...
[00:51:09] Do you have Mike Conley on Jamal Murray?
[00:51:11] And...
[00:51:12] You probably have Anthony Edwards
[00:51:14] He's supposedly taking defense more seriously
[00:51:17] I do want to bring up the bench guys a little bit though
[00:51:20] Like, I do think that this is a big Peyton Watson series
[00:51:23] Because we're gonna need some of that length coming off of the bench
[00:51:26] Like, we can't be leaving, you know, Reggie Jackson out there for very long
[00:51:33] Like, those minutes are gonna get shrunk because this team is big
[00:51:37] They're not gonna play Mike Conley very much
[00:51:40] Like, they're gonna go bigger, play Cat at the five
[00:51:45] And technically be playing small because they're playing a four at the five
[00:51:49] But they have five guys out there that are huge
[00:51:52] So I think Peyton Watson's gonna be big
[00:51:55] I also think Justin Holliday is gonna keep sneaking these minutes
[00:51:59] He's just kind of reliable
[00:52:02] He's good on defense, he gets rebounds when they're necessary
[00:52:05] He took a couple of questionable shots early in game three
[00:52:10] But I like that he feels confident enough in his role on the team to take those shots
[00:52:18] Because he was open
[00:52:20] I would have preferred them later in the shot clock
[00:52:23] But he was open
[00:52:25] So I think that those bench guys, you know
[00:52:29] They're gonna need to, like I said, they're gonna need to step up
[00:52:32] It's not anything drastic, it's just you do better
[00:52:38] Yeah, it's gonna be a fascinating series going forward
[00:52:45] Do you think that the Nuggets sweep the Lakers tomorrow?
[00:52:51] Final prediction
[00:52:52] Yeah, I do
[00:52:53] Yeah, I think so as well
[00:52:55] I mean, I think you saw some quit from the Lakers in game three
[00:52:58] And then you have the game was over with five minutes ago
[00:53:02] Now we're getting the BS injury report
[00:53:05] Like it's all lining up to a this team just going
[00:53:11] Hey, you know how those reports leak that you're coming back, Darvin Ham?
[00:53:14] We're gonna get you fired
[00:53:16] We're gonna lose by 50 on ABC in prime time
[00:53:20] And let's see, keep your job after this, buddy
[00:53:25] I also think that there is like, I mean
[00:53:29] Now the Nuggets might deny it because it feels like piling on
[00:53:34] But there is a little bit of something where it's like
[00:53:37] Nah, we don't really like you guys very much
[00:53:41] You were sort of standing in our way
[00:53:44] And you beat us in the bubble and you probably shouldn't have
[00:53:47] Like if AD doesn't bank in that miracle shit
[00:53:50] Like you probably don't
[00:53:52] So actually you are the reason we don't already have a championship
[00:53:57] On top of the one we won last year
[00:54:00] So I think there's people underestimate that factor of it too
[00:54:05] You know, they always talk about the pride of not getting swept
[00:54:08] But there's the pride of being like, nah, you guys can't mess with us
[00:54:13] And I mean, like
[00:54:15] This just seems like a team that doesn't believe in their coach
[00:54:19] And then with this age and all this stuff
[00:54:23] There's like no reason that they would want to play
[00:54:26] Their bench is also terrible
[00:54:28] Like they can't play the bench at all
[00:54:33] And you saw it, I mean you talked about it
[00:54:36] They tried to match the minutes with the Bronad AD out there with our bench
[00:54:41] And they couldn't make up ground there
[00:54:43] It's like, I was joking at game two in the fourth quarter
[00:54:49] There was a Lakers fan behind us and with like whatever
[00:54:54] Eleven minutes to go in the fourth, he's like, I'm not worried
[00:54:57] I said you wait till the Grand Rapids gold gets out the game
[00:55:02] You wait, just you wait until the Yokoch come back in this game
[00:55:06] And you will be worried then
[00:55:09] So I think we're in a very good position
[00:55:16] And I think this series is about to make me very stressed
[00:55:20] Yeah, it's
[00:55:22] There's going to be some unbelievable battles going on here
[00:55:28] Because these teams know each other really well now too
[00:55:32] I mean people talk about how we played the Lakers
[00:55:35] Well, we played the Timberwolves in the playoffs too last year
[00:55:38] Actually in one more game then we played the Lakers
[00:55:42] And we see the Timberwolves one more time than we see the Lakers
[00:55:46] And Tim Conley was the GM that drafted Nikola Yokoch
[00:55:51] Like what are we talking about?
[00:55:53] And then Bill's the team
[00:55:54] They have Montemore, he's playing right now
[00:56:00] I'm watching him on the TV
[00:56:02] He's really going to piss me off the root against him
[00:56:04] But I'm going to
[00:56:06] Honestly, I helped a lot of people
[00:56:10] It makes me feel a little bit better that Montes is getting real minutes in there
[00:56:15] Because arguably he shouldn't have been getting minutes when he was in our playoff rotation
[00:56:20] So I'm happy he's in theirs now
[00:56:24] But I do love Montes
[00:56:26] I have his number
[00:56:29] Famously
[00:56:31] See if he wants to come on the pod
[00:56:33] Talk about throwing the series
[00:56:35] We can make some offers
[00:56:37] Yeah, we don't need any more of that in Denver
[00:56:41] Hey, no, no, no
[00:56:43] We're trying to get him suspended
[00:56:45] Just being involved in the conversation
[00:56:49] Maybe get him out of there
[00:56:53] Alright, well
[00:56:55] I think
[00:56:57] We covered everything we wanted to with the Broncos and Nuggets here
[00:57:02] The Avs got a big victory here
[00:57:04] Shout out to the Avs, they're now up 2-1
[00:57:06] Came back, they were down 2-1
[00:57:09] Headed into that third period and then 1-6-2
[00:57:13] So great work by the boys
[00:57:15] Did McKinnon score?
[00:57:17] Toes and gorge
[00:57:19] On our way to collect the cup
[00:57:21] Go ahead boys
[00:57:23] So that's all for this week
[00:57:26] We'll be back next week
[00:57:28] I want one more question for you
[00:57:32] Do you feel more or less confident than you did last time we talked
[00:57:37] Which was actually, I think, before the series had started
[00:57:41] So do you feel more or less confident?
[00:57:44] So
[00:57:46] The low point of confidence was in game 2
[00:57:49] When the Avs proceeded to get 1 shot
[00:57:54] On a 4-minute major
[00:57:56] And then give up a goal immediately after
[00:58:00] This, that felt like to me
[00:58:04] I was like, oh my gosh
[00:58:06] Like, okay this isn't meant to be
[00:58:08] But you know, we're going to fall apart
[00:58:10] And so then once we put in a bunch of goals again
[00:58:14] Because quietly the Avs scored 6 in game 1
[00:58:19] So it wasn't like a frustrating kind of what we were talking about
[00:58:24] Of like, oh this guy stood on his head and we lost 2-1 or something
[00:58:28] Like they're putting pucks in nets
[00:58:31] I was telling Sophie earlier
[00:58:33] She was like, oh what game is it?
[00:58:35] And I was like, oh it's game 3
[00:58:37] And she was like, is it tide 1-1?
[00:58:39] I was like, yeah
[00:58:40] And she was like, oh I couldn't remember if they won game 1
[00:58:43] And I was like, no, no they got their asses kicked
[00:58:45] And she was like, wasn't it 7-6?
[00:58:47] And I was like, well yeah
[00:58:49] I mean, I guess it was
[00:58:51] But technically
[00:58:53] It did feel like they got that
[00:58:55] But you're right, the offensive production has been there all series
[00:58:59] So as soon as I felt like, hey we're going to be able to score 4 or 5 a game
[00:59:06] I was like, I don't think Winnipeg can keep up with that
[00:59:09] And so then I felt a lot more confident
[00:59:11] And now I'm fully on to just hating
[00:59:16] The cheating golden knights
[00:59:20] The Dom warned us about those filthy filthy cheaters
[00:59:25] Are on the horizon
[00:59:29] And I for one hate it so much
[00:59:33] And I hope nothing but success for the abs in a series against them
[00:59:40] Because they are once again dirty, dirty cheaters
[00:59:44] Yeah it seems like they're probably going to sweep potentially
[00:59:50] Yeah, I mean they're unbelievable
[00:59:53] Because they skirted the cap
[00:59:58] But yeah
[01:00:01] Alright, well I just wanted your quick little bit of
[01:00:06] I'm confident we're moving past the Jets
[01:00:08] And that's a good thing
[01:00:09] Yeah which I was in calm
[01:00:11] We were feeling terrible after Dom talked to us
[01:00:15] So that's good
[01:00:17] So we're all aboard the Gorgian Toes train
[01:00:22] So thank you
[01:00:25] Yeah
[01:00:27] Thank you for listening
[01:00:29] Please like, subscribe, spread the word
[01:00:32] And thanks to our super producer DanTheMan
[01:00:35] For bringing our hopes up about Bonix
[01:00:38] And then also producing the podcast and doing all of that
[01:00:43] We'll talk to you next week
[01:00:47] Adam Ottervinu says bye

