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[00:03:07] It's time to get to our speaker and
[00:03:11] if you are somebody who has been incarcerated or if you're listening
[00:03:16] while behind bars
[00:03:18] She goes in to prisons and speaks to people
[00:03:22] about their recovery and their addiction in prison and
[00:03:26] You are in your recovery and
[00:03:29] Today she is our guest. It is Casey Betts from Colorado Springs
[00:03:33] Yes, and you're also a peer recovery coach
[00:03:37] Well, I haven't done any of the coaches but you just you've done the classes
[00:03:41] It's further along than I am
[00:03:44] But you've been going in to prisons you told me before we got in here for about 10 years
[00:03:48] Yeah, that's really like huge. Yeah, we love that
[00:03:52] Thank you for what you do because being able to do that is really important
[00:03:57] It is yeah, and not even tried recovery homes the main focus of tribe is helping people post in free
[00:04:03] incarceration and there in their recovery
[00:04:07] So I know there's a lot of love in this room for you. Yeah, there's always a lot of love in this room
[00:04:11] So my high I would like to introduce our guest Casey Betts
[00:04:15] And she is our guest speaker today for sharing our stories
[00:04:19] All right
[00:04:22] Hi everybody. I'm Casey and
[00:04:28] I am an addict and I'm glad to be here. I'm glad I get this opportunity
[00:04:36] I guess to qualify I'll just give you a rundown of what I came from
[00:04:42] I have my first drink when I was nine years old and then I
[00:04:47] Used to get drunk every weekend with my best friend
[00:04:54] at 13 and
[00:04:57] I remember getting pulled over on the side of the road in our neighborhood by the cops and
[00:05:05] They're asking us why we were falling over and my friend she ended up going to the hospital without alcohol poisoning and we were 13
[00:05:13] and
[00:05:15] I remember they asked me to say my ABCs in the
[00:05:20] breathalyzer and I was like I can say them backwards, you know, I thought it was the coolest thing ever
[00:05:25] but
[00:05:26] It's really not that cool, you know
[00:05:29] at 15
[00:05:34] I lived on my own and
[00:05:39] I was
[00:05:41] either going to go out and either
[00:05:45] Sell my butt or sell dope so I sold dope
[00:05:51] At 15 years old I had to learn how to be an adult really quick
[00:05:57] I got involved with
[00:06:00] anybody that would
[00:06:03] accept me and
[00:06:05] would take me in and
[00:06:07] Help me learn how to become the better dope dealer basically and
[00:06:16] That's how I paid for everything. I I
[00:06:19] Mean when you go to an apartment complex, so you try to sign a lease at 15 they're like
[00:06:25] no and then you throw it down six months
[00:06:29] rant they're like and your birthday is here sign this you know and
[00:06:36] So that's kind of where it sparked my
[00:06:40] interest is I could pay for anything I wanted I just had to get the money
[00:06:45] so I did what I had to do and
[00:06:49] That became my drive
[00:06:52] money was more of my addiction than dope
[00:06:56] but I
[00:06:58] I just got into the dope
[00:07:01] I
[00:07:02] Learned how to make dope at 17 and
[00:07:05] I was literally the girl that would get into every single bar in town and
[00:07:11] I would get in good with all the bartenders all of the
[00:07:17] The bouncers whatever it took to get what I wanted and
[00:07:23] I would find somebody and I would take them home and kick them out of their own house and
[00:07:28] Make dope in their basement and they would be out of their house for 11 days
[00:07:32] And that's where I would be and I would make a batch and then I'd be out, you know
[00:07:36] and I did that for a lot of a lot of time
[00:07:43] Until I got caught
[00:07:45] the first time I got caught
[00:07:48] They do the slap on the hand deferred sentence, you know and
[00:07:52] Dogon and trouble again and you'll be fine and of course, you know
[00:07:57] I lied my way out of that one. I had a silver tongue at 17 and
[00:08:03] I
[00:08:04] Remember it was like literally like three days after I got out of jail that first time I was like
[00:08:11] Where's the dope at and I just went right back to using it and making it and doing the most and
[00:08:19] and by the time I was
[00:08:23] It was 2001 so I was just what 22 years old
[00:08:31] No, I was born in 77 wherever it was 2001. I went to prison the very first time and
[00:08:40] That was not fun, but I will tell you the moment I got out of prison
[00:08:45] I had my dope dealer in the parking lot and I got loaded immediately and
[00:08:51] I kept going and I kept running and
[00:08:54] I'd get in more trouble and I'd bond out and I'd run some more and
[00:09:00] I just I couldn't stop. I was
[00:09:04] Absolutely full blown into my addiction to where I
[00:09:09] Feel like I no longer had a choice
[00:09:12] I just I had to do whatever it took
[00:09:15] To get more to do more and to never feel that was the biggest thing is I just didn't want to feel because I had caused so much pain
[00:09:25] in my own life and
[00:09:27] then along the way I had some kids and
[00:09:34] I have
[00:09:37] Currently, I have two boys and a daughter
[00:09:41] and
[00:09:42] in the midst of my addiction I
[00:09:45] Lost all three of those kids
[00:09:50] I couldn't take care of them as a as an adult. I wasn't an adult. I was a child in an adult body trying to
[00:10:00] Survive and that's all I knew how to do and
[00:10:06] I remember the last time that
[00:10:10] I went to prison while the last time I went to jail
[00:10:15] I was facing a lot of time. I was facing two habitual offenders and
[00:10:22] one in Denver and one in Colorado Springs they were like we are going to give you
[00:10:29] 48 years for Denver and 48 years
[00:10:32] for Colorado Springs and
[00:10:35] I
[00:10:36] Came to terms sitting there in jail waiting on
[00:10:41] Seeing the judge that was going to do 96 years in prison
[00:10:46] And that was for the rest of my life. I was just going to sit in prison and rot
[00:10:51] And I had to come to terms to that and that was really rough
[00:10:57] but you know
[00:10:58] what happens is when you finally get to that bottom and
[00:11:04] the gift of desperation comes in
[00:11:09] There's a higher power that comes after you and
[00:11:14] This lady she came in and she's seen my bunkey and
[00:11:19] in jail and she and my bunkey said you know who's in there with me Casey that's
[00:11:25] She's like no way tell her I'm a come visitor and
[00:11:29] I
[00:11:31] Was like I don't want no visitors. I didn't want nobody. I hadn't seen my mom in six years
[00:11:36] I hadn't seen my kids in six years. I didn't want to see nobody
[00:11:39] I just wanted to die to be honest and
[00:11:45] This lady came in and she visited me and
[00:11:48] I was like lady look. I don't need you. I don't want you
[00:11:51] I don't I just don't want any of this as she's like that's okay
[00:11:57] I'm gonna keep coming. I have to do service work and my sponsor says that I need to come
[00:12:02] And I was like I don't know what that means
[00:12:05] But I don't need you to do that for me
[00:12:07] As she's like okay, I'm a send a book in
[00:12:11] I was like whatever she sends this book in
[00:12:15] and
[00:12:17] I get it and I'm like this is ridiculous. Why is this lady going to send some book in she don't even know me you know
[00:12:23] She comes back the next week on a Wednesday
[00:12:27] And I came to her and I said I got the book. Thank you, but I'm going to bed goodbye
[00:12:31] and
[00:12:33] She's like that's okay. I'll be back next week. I'm like
[00:12:38] You don't need to I don't need anybody to come and she came back
[00:12:43] and
[00:12:45] She just come and visited me. She's like I ain't gotten under do for 30 minutes you might as well sit down and I'm like
[00:12:52] whatever so I finally grabbed the phone and
[00:12:55] She's like have you opened the book? I'm like no
[00:12:59] She's like can you get the book so I go get the book and she's like you got to check out the stories in the back
[00:13:05] And I'm like their stories. She goes yeah, they're kind of cool. You should check it out
[00:13:10] Why don't you read one and just see if you like it?
[00:13:12] You don't have to but if you do then we could talk about that on the next visit
[00:13:17] I said listen lady
[00:13:18] You don't need to keep coming and visiting me
[00:13:20] I'm sorry you taking all this time out of your life
[00:13:23] But you don't need to like I'm not worth anything and that was like her key like her ears perked up
[00:13:31] it was like she was like yes, you are and
[00:13:36] She came back that next Wednesday and she was like did you read the story?
[00:13:40] I'm like I may have opened it up. I may have looked at it
[00:13:44] You know I didn't want to admit to anything, you know, I'm just like me
[00:13:50] But she's like well, which one did you read and we started talking about it?
[00:13:53] And I got to have like a human conversation
[00:13:58] And I felt human for a small amount of time
[00:14:02] and
[00:14:04] I
[00:14:05] Remember I went back to my bed and I just cried because I was like I
[00:14:12] hadn't felt human in a long time and
[00:14:17] I
[00:14:19] I knew she was gonna come back that next Wednesday and
[00:14:23] We talked about another story this time. I was like okay
[00:14:26] I'm a read a story because I'm gonna be prepared for her
[00:14:29] And so I read a story and we talked about it
[00:14:32] And she goes, you know, I'm gonna get your mom to come visit you and I'm like no you're not
[00:14:37] and
[00:14:38] She got my mom to come visit me and my mom brought my kid and
[00:14:45] cried and wept
[00:14:48] For days
[00:14:50] You know and she saw how many get a prayer team and we're gonna pray for you
[00:14:56] And we're gonna see a miracle happen in that courtroom
[00:15:00] And I'm like there is no miracles ready for me anymore, you know like I have used them all up
[00:15:07] You don't understand where I've been or what I've done
[00:15:10] And I mean I don't want to go through all of my drug-a-log because we've all got him, you know
[00:15:15] But I mean I've done some of the worst things I've ever heard of in life and
[00:15:20] And I don't need to compare or compete or any of that with any of my drug-a-log. It was just bad and
[00:15:29] it was enough
[00:15:31] but
[00:15:33] This lady
[00:15:34] She really did start praying for me and she really did start showing up for me
[00:15:39] And I can remember going into the courtroom and hearing the judge talk about how
[00:15:45] They need to come up with a plea agreement and all this other stuff, you know
[00:15:49] And all I could think about was
[00:15:51] I'm just gonna be in prison for the rest of my life. So what does this all really matter? Right?
[00:15:58] Well
[00:16:00] I remember doing this prayer circle. You know you do all these prayer circles in
[00:16:05] jail and I remember they call my name to go to court
[00:16:10] And I my last name is Betts
[00:16:13] So I go into court very early in the morning, you know they get you up at 4.30
[00:16:18] They take you down and you're sitting in the
[00:16:21] Courthouse and you're waiting and waiting and waiting and I'm like it's like 10.30
[00:16:26] Why hasn't my name been called yet? You know and
[00:16:29] I'm like guard. I need to talk to you and he's like
[00:16:33] I'm not talking to you. You know they just didn't care. They just they treat you
[00:16:38] in
[00:16:39] humanly and
[00:16:40] It's so and I understand why they do that because they don't want to be attached and they don't need to catch feelings and
[00:16:47] And they don't want to feel any kind of way because they don't understand what we got going on because they've never been through it
[00:16:53] You know, so I get it but
[00:16:56] Being where I was I felt in humanize for sure and
[00:17:00] And
[00:17:01] It's like I've already had my lunch there
[00:17:05] I don't want to have another brown bag sack for dinner too
[00:17:08] And it's 2.30 in the afternoon. I'm like for crime and he's saying I am sitting in here all day was going on for court
[00:17:16] You know
[00:17:17] And they're like I'm you're just not been called yet
[00:17:19] I mean this is ridiculous. Why am I here all day if I'm not being called my court was at 8.3
[00:17:25] I'm you know, I'm having a fit and finally at 4 o'clock in the afternoon. They finally come and get me
[00:17:31] I go into the courtroom
[00:17:34] My judge is sicker than the dog he's like hacking up
[00:17:39] Louie's and I mean he is like coughing and super sick and then my DA isn't there
[00:17:45] I'm like who's that lady and my attorney goes
[00:17:48] I'm gonna tell you right now if you open your mouth again
[00:17:51] I'm gonna stick my my real shoe in your mouth. So don't talk okay
[00:17:56] And so I'm like but and he goes I mean it and he reached down for I was like okay, okay
[00:18:03] and
[00:18:04] The lady that's standing over there
[00:18:06] She was not the DA and my judge goes do we have anything ready to go for miss but she's been here all day
[00:18:14] Yes, she's in car history, but she has rights too. We need to get her out of here
[00:18:18] I'm ready to go home and he was just ready to go home
[00:18:21] And it was the assistant DA and the assistant DA said I am still waiting
[00:18:27] For the DA to respond. She has not responded to any
[00:18:32] Voice mail or text messages or anything. He goes well, here's the thing
[00:18:35] I'd hate for you to have on your resume that you don't know how to make a decision for yourself
[00:18:41] So you need to make a decision
[00:18:44] You need to come up with a discussion with this attorney of hers and come up with a plea agreement
[00:18:50] We're not leaving until I make a judgment
[00:18:53] As she's like and he goes and I can make that judgment without you, but it won't look good for you as
[00:18:59] She was like
[00:19:02] Okay, she looked at my attorney. She goes whatever you come up with all sign and my attorney said okay
[00:19:09] And we he wrote something down and he goes sign here. I was like what am I signing? He goes shut up just sign it
[00:19:16] Okay, so then she signs it
[00:19:19] They handed to the judge and the judge goes do you agree with this house like well
[00:19:24] I know and my attorney looks at me and go shut up
[00:19:27] Yes, I agree I just said you know and what the agreement was is
[00:19:34] I had to do eight years in prison
[00:19:36] And then I had to do a
[00:19:41] rehab
[00:19:43] After it in order to be completed and then that would be it and I was like what about all that he goes shut up
[00:19:51] I was like okay. Yes, I'll do it
[00:19:54] So with all the time that I spent in jail
[00:19:56] I got two for one days so I ended up only doing
[00:20:01] It was like between 17 and 19 months. I don't remember the exact amount of time
[00:20:09] My mind was still pretty foggy when I got out because I went straight into a program called
[00:20:16] Star TC which is in Pueblo and
[00:20:18] I had to
[00:20:20] Complete that program and when I got there
[00:20:23] I will tell you
[00:20:25] The doors open from the inside. I could have left it anytime
[00:20:29] And I was pissed when I got there because all I wanted to do was get loaded
[00:20:34] That's all I wanted to do
[00:20:36] I want to leave and get loaded
[00:20:39] And they said well you can
[00:20:42] Star is star TC a behavior modification to yes, it is that's what I yeah
[00:20:47] It's a therapeutic community. Yeah, it is pure yeah right
[00:20:51] and
[00:20:53] They break you all the way down
[00:20:56] Yeah, and then they build you all the way up. It's like the 12 steps on steroids
[00:21:03] Literally and that's all you do all day every day is
[00:21:10] basically stepwork and learning how to become
[00:21:14] somebody different and
[00:21:18] I did
[00:21:19] While I was there, I mean the first
[00:21:23] Two phases you can't see anybody talked to anybody have a communication with the outside world whatsoever
[00:21:30] You're not allowed to wear makeup. You can't have your hair in the frizz
[00:21:34] You are playing Jane all the way and you get told everything you do wrong like
[00:21:42] I mean if you come around the corner wrong, I pull you up for coming around the corner wrong
[00:21:46] I'm like what I pull you up for good saying what you know, I mean I'm like what
[00:21:50] I mean they pull you up for everything they try to make you mad on a constant basis and you're just like
[00:21:56] I'm there. You don't have to go any further
[00:21:59] I'm done and they're like still going at you
[00:22:02] I mean they are like the thumb that is like
[00:22:07] And they just keep going they don't stop
[00:22:10] so
[00:22:11] What it taught me was is this
[00:22:15] nothing
[00:22:17] Can break me nothing and
[00:22:21] That's real that is really the realest thing I ever did in my life and
[00:22:28] When I first got there though, they told me it's only a four and a half month program. I was like
[00:22:33] sweet and
[00:22:35] They ended up modifying it when I got there to be seven and a half months because I could tell you at
[00:22:42] Four and a half months. I was not ready
[00:22:45] When I was getting ready to
[00:22:47] They call it continue eight not graduate because you never graduate
[00:22:52] So when I was getting ready to continue eight. I was freaked out. I was like I'm scared
[00:22:57] So I started getting to a lot of trouble
[00:22:59] I got into a lot of trouble and it was the safest place to act out
[00:23:07] The most that would happen to me
[00:23:10] Was that I would have to do what they call learning experience so I had to write a 10,000 word Ellie
[00:23:17] So that'd be 10,000 words on why my behavior is the way it is today
[00:23:22] You know and at one point I had the most Ellie's ever written
[00:23:27] I was like yes gold star
[00:23:30] but
[00:23:32] You know you have to just be the best at everything Casey. I'm like yes, I do that's what I do and
[00:23:38] What I did the last thing I did was I got really upset with one of the
[00:23:45] CAs there and I just threw a coffee on all the computers in the wall so then
[00:23:50] They had to buy new computers, and I had to paint the entire inside of the center
[00:23:56] By myself. It was a requirement
[00:23:59] And I was like that's okay
[00:24:01] That's the worst that's gonna happen to you know
[00:24:04] And I just I kept trying to stay longer because I was afraid to leave at this point
[00:24:10] Which is weird right cuz you get promised all this time
[00:24:14] Then you only have to do eight years and then you only end up doing less than two and now you're only doing this four and a half month
[00:24:20] Rehab and then you're gonna leave and be out on your own
[00:24:23] It's like I don't want to do that, you know oh
[00:24:26] and
[00:24:28] I did get to get out though and the day that I continuated
[00:24:33] I wanted to go home and get high
[00:24:38] I felt like I had been clean long enough
[00:24:42] And that was at the forefront of my brain
[00:24:45] I just wanted to go get loaded one more time just to see if I needed it still you know and
[00:24:53] The lady that kept coming to the jail she was there
[00:24:58] And she was like well, we're gonna go to a meeting. I'm like I don't want to go to a meeting
[00:25:03] She's like I don't care what you want and
[00:25:06] I was like I'm gonna go home. I got stuffed packed. She's like what?
[00:25:11] I said you know my gray sweatshew with my name on it
[00:25:18] I had stuff to do you know and
[00:25:21] She's like whatever let's go so she takes me to this meeting and
[00:25:25] At this meeting they do announcements and stuff and this guy talks about I'm gonna have a root beer cater
[00:25:32] And I'm like that's the most stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life
[00:25:37] And I'm like I'm definitely not going to that she goes we're going to that
[00:25:41] I'm like I'm not going to that you can take me home. She goes I'm not taking you home. We're going to that
[00:25:47] And I hated her from the get go we went to this
[00:25:52] root beer cater okay
[00:25:55] And I am sitting off in the corner trying to be you know like I want to be here
[00:26:02] And a bunch of these biker dudes come up they give me a big all-hug. They're like we love you
[00:26:08] We're gonna love you take a love yourself. I'm like get off of me, you know whatever and they didn't care they just
[00:26:16] Were very sweet people they were loving and kind and I didn't know how to accept that yet
[00:26:23] I was still very standoffish
[00:26:26] upset mad at the world angry pissed off you name it. That's what I was
[00:26:31] It was not kind
[00:26:33] When the party was over I was like all right, let's go she's like
[00:26:37] The lady that kept coming to the jail. She's like my sponsor lady and she's like we're going to
[00:26:45] Clean up. I said I didn't dirty it up. I'm not cleaning it up. She goes well
[00:26:49] It'll just take longer to get you home then
[00:26:52] so I'm clean up and
[00:26:55] I
[00:26:56] Remember getting home. It was late and then
[00:27:00] Here comes this lady knocking the door
[00:27:04] before the sun rose and
[00:27:06] Talking about
[00:27:08] knocking and my mom opens the door and she's like can I help you?
[00:27:13] She goes is Casey here
[00:27:15] And I'm like does she have a badge
[00:27:17] and
[00:27:20] My mom goes do you have a badge if she's like no I have to take her to a meeting I was like shut the door
[00:27:28] I'm not going anywhere. I'm sleeping
[00:27:31] She lows this lady into my house the lady stands over me because I'm sleeping on the couch
[00:27:37] The lady stands over me and she's like
[00:27:41] You have to go to the meeting with me
[00:27:43] I'm like I don't have to do nothing and I tried to turn over she's standing over me and she keeps talking
[00:27:49] Yappin. Oh my god. It's like
[00:27:52] Addics don't know how to shut up. They just keep talking and
[00:27:56] I was like when will you shut up? She's like if you get in the car
[00:28:00] I don't want to go. She's like well
[00:28:02] I'm just going to tell you about how I got here, okay?
[00:28:05] So she told me I had to come your sponsor said I had to come and I had I couldn't leave without you
[00:28:10] And I'm like oh my god, let's go jeez
[00:28:13] So I go get in the car we go to this meeting right after the meeting. I'm like all right. Let's go home
[00:28:19] She takes me to coffee and I want to go to coffee
[00:28:22] She's like that's okay your sponsor gave me money for coffee. We're going to coffee
[00:28:28] Why cuz that's what we do so then she wants to tell me her whole life story at coffee and
[00:28:34] Then this lady comes in and they're like high five in each other
[00:28:39] And I'm like what is going on? She's like hey, I'm taking you and I'm like whoa
[00:28:45] What I don't know you she's like that's okay your sponsors sent me we're going for a ride
[00:28:51] All happy like to I hate her immediately as she's like we're going to breakfast
[00:28:56] I don't need breakfast. She goes well. We have breakfast money so we're going to breakfast
[00:29:02] I hate you that's okay. I'll love you until you can love yourself
[00:29:06] They always keep telling you that I hated it
[00:29:10] So we go to breakfast and I of course a jerk
[00:29:15] And I'm like I'll have staking eggs and you know all the stupid junk and the most expensive whatever and she's like that's fine
[00:29:23] And pays for it like with no sense of remorse whatsoever. She's like okay done
[00:29:29] Like I hate her. I just hated her, you know
[00:29:32] She's just so happy nothing could piss her off. She wanted to tell me all about her story and her life and all this junk
[00:29:38] And I'm like whatever lady and then she's like we're gonna go to a meeting all happy like I'm like I already went to one
[00:29:45] She's like it's okay
[00:29:47] And she takes me to this newner and we go to the newner and all the people are talking and they're happy and go lucky
[00:29:54] And I'm just like oh god like they're just everywhere we go
[00:29:58] And they are just happy people everywhere we go and I'm just so already sick of it when I puke out my guts
[00:30:06] Because everybody's just so happy
[00:30:08] So after the meeting I'm like cool. We're going home
[00:30:11] She's like we're going to the duck park. I'm like what?
[00:30:15] She's like yeah, your sponsor gave me a hold off a bread. We could go feed the ducks. I'm like
[00:30:20] This is out of hand you gotta take me home
[00:30:23] She's like I'm not going home
[00:30:24] I follow the rules. I was told to do something. I do what I'm told
[00:30:28] I'm like why do you let another lady tell you what to do that's ridiculous, you know
[00:30:33] And so we go the duck park
[00:30:35] And she pulls out the loaf of bread. I snatch it over her hand. I'm like there you go
[00:30:40] There's the ducks bed. Let's go
[00:30:42] She's like well we can't leave. I said why
[00:30:45] She's like well your sponsors on the way and I'm like
[00:30:48] Crime and he's safe. What is she gonna do now? You know so she comes I'm so man
[00:30:53] She's like you want to cigarette? I'm like yes, so I get a cigarette and
[00:30:59] We're smoking cigarettes is she's like, you know, why are you so upset? And I'm just like because I just want to go home
[00:31:05] She's like and do what but you got it home. I
[00:31:09] Don't know stuff and things
[00:31:12] She's like no, you just want to go get load and we're not doing that today
[00:31:18] Like you don't know she's like yeah, I do
[00:31:20] so
[00:31:21] You know, we talk for a while. She's like explaining all this junk to me
[00:31:25] I'm like whatever I don't care lady. I just want to I just want to go home and
[00:31:31] She takes me to another damn meeting
[00:31:35] I'm meeting doubt you know and she's like
[00:31:39] She's a newcomer. She needs numbers and I got these thing numbers right so I get all these numbers
[00:31:43] And I go home finally we make it home right what happens next?
[00:31:49] It's morning again and somebody's at the door to pick me up. I'm like oh my god
[00:31:53] You guys all get up early or what you know, she has like this whole posse of women
[00:31:59] They keep coming after me to take me to meetings and and lunch and breakfast and dinners and and coffees and I'm just like
[00:32:07] why why who why
[00:32:11] And they're like we just want to see you make it
[00:32:15] We just want to see
[00:32:17] You make it and I'm just like why what is so important about me? They're like you're worth it
[00:32:24] And I'm just like
[00:32:27] How am I worth it like
[00:32:30] In my head, I'm just like I
[00:32:34] Have a ninth grade education on paper ninth grade. That's what I dropped out of school at
[00:32:41] and
[00:32:43] I don't know anything
[00:32:45] But how to make dope do dope and sell dope
[00:32:49] How am I worth it?
[00:32:51] And they're like we're gonna help you and
[00:32:56] That's exactly what happened, you know what I will tell you is that
[00:33:02] In 11 days I hadn't taken a shower because
[00:33:06] These women kept showing up at my house taking me all these meetings and blah blah blah blah
[00:33:11] You know every day it was the same thing. It was just going day after day after day
[00:33:17] My days ran into each other it was ridiculous and I remember on the 11th day
[00:33:22] I finally showered and I was ready to go at 5.30 when they were gonna come and get me right and nobody showed up
[00:33:28] I was freaking out
[00:33:30] So all those numbers I got at the meetings. I'm dialing like a dope addict
[00:33:36] You coming to get me no, okay
[00:33:39] You coming to get me no, I would do the whole list like I was trying to get dope like you got any dope
[00:33:45] Nope, okay, you got any dope where's Sue? Where's Alan? Where's who you know?
[00:33:50] I got some that's who I was back in the day. So now is using the phone numbers for these
[00:33:58] Ladies that come get me like you coming to get me
[00:34:00] I finally got somebody to say they would take me home if I got to the meeting so then and you know
[00:34:05] I'm like hey mom, can I get a ride you know and I get to the mean it starts all over again
[00:34:11] So I got all these new habits without even realizing I got these new habits. They were just like
[00:34:19] They just happened you know just like doing dope it just happened
[00:34:23] You know I started doing dope one day and I became a dope addict now I start going to meetings and now I become this
[00:34:30] complete like
[00:34:33] In a Nazi in the beginning, you know like we have to go to meetings everybody needs meetings everybody needs this
[00:34:38] This this this it was ridiculous, but hey is new habits
[00:34:43] It's in my brain. I call it replacement therapy, you know
[00:34:47] I replaced all of the old things that I used to do with all the new things they were the same things just clean right and
[00:34:57] My life changed
[00:35:00] I learned everything I know today
[00:35:04] By those women who sat with me for coffee and breakfast and lunch
[00:35:10] They taught me how to be a mother they taught me how to be a daughter a sister a friend
[00:35:17] They taught me how to have integrity
[00:35:20] They taught me how to
[00:35:22] Have sympathy and empathy
[00:35:25] um
[00:35:26] They taught me how to have my own higher power which I call God you know, I didn't have one in the beginning because I was mad and
[00:35:37] um
[00:35:39] I got one
[00:35:40] Through the program, you know, I I did the steps
[00:35:44] And I got one and I got one because I was willing
[00:35:48] I was told if you do what we did then you'll get what we got and they were not wrong
[00:35:55] And they taught me how to be self-reliant
[00:35:59] Not self-centered
[00:36:00] They taught me how to do selfless acts of kindness and not tell anybody about it
[00:36:06] They taught me how to do
[00:36:08] Basically everything I know is what I have learned in the rooms and I am absolutely grateful for that
[00:36:17] um
[00:36:18] You know, I started out with nothing um
[00:36:23] Out of prison
[00:36:25] seven felonies and
[00:36:28] No place wanted to hire me because they were like we could understand three or four but seven and um
[00:36:36] I was shot down so many places, but I didn't know how to do much. So it was
[00:36:41] Okay, I'll figure it out
[00:36:43] And um low and behold, you know, I went to this McDonald's and I grabbed a broom
[00:36:49] And I started sweeping. They're like who are you lady?
[00:36:52] And I said I'm not leaving to give me a paycheck
[00:36:54] I just was done trying to get a job
[00:36:57] So I just said I'm not leaving till I get a job basically
[00:37:01] And they had to call a manager a manager came and spoke spoke with me
[00:37:05] I explained my situation and they said be back tomorrow. You're gonna fill out paperwork
[00:37:11] I said all right. I will
[00:37:12] And that was the beginning of it. I just needed a
[00:37:16] foot in and then I had other jobs
[00:37:20] And then I kept getting better jobs and at one time I had four jobs and I was
[00:37:25] just working my butt off and um
[00:37:29] I remember
[00:37:30] I had a huge
[00:37:33] restitution
[00:37:35] um, I had to pay a hundred and nineteen thousand dollars in restitution
[00:37:39] And when I first seen that six figure number, I was like
[00:37:43] I'm gonna die before that gets paid
[00:37:46] And my sponsor at the time was like
[00:37:49] We're gonna get a bank account. We're gonna make these bills go away
[00:37:54] We're gonna pay them on time. We're gonna do this and I'm like
[00:37:58] You're crazy if you think that's really gonna happen she goes
[00:38:00] It's gonna happen. We're gonna do a little out of time. How do you do an elephant small bites?
[00:38:05] I'm like, okay
[00:38:07] I just did whatever she told me to do you know and what all these women told me to do
[00:38:12] And I just did it and you know what? It worked
[00:38:15] They did not want to see me fail. They wanted to see me succeed
[00:38:19] So all of them combined effort it takes a village
[00:38:24] and um
[00:38:25] They got me through it and I remember the day
[00:38:29] That I went to the courthouse and I paid my final payment
[00:38:33] And I was
[00:38:35] Completely broke down and um
[00:38:39] I remember handing the guy
[00:38:41] Because I was working as a waitress and I would just always hand my tips over
[00:38:45] I didn't count him. I would stop at the communion store by my chips my cigarettes and my Pepsi
[00:38:50] And I would take the rest. I wouldn't count it
[00:38:52] I would hand it to the guy at the courthouse pay that he would give me a receipt
[00:38:57] I would never look at it and I would throw it away
[00:39:00] Because my belief was as as long as I don't count it
[00:39:03] It's gonna get paid because the god of my understanding he's gonna help me
[00:39:07] And I remember the day that I gave the guy the money and he goes here you it's too much
[00:39:12] And I was like you don't you're not looking at something right look again
[00:39:17] And he goes this is way too much lady. I know what I can see on the computer
[00:39:21] I can't change it and I'm like well, you're wrong
[00:39:25] I owe a lot of money and he's like
[00:39:28] It says zero lady and he was starting to get really upset with me
[00:39:33] And I'm like I need to talk to your supervisor
[00:39:36] I was just so freaked out that it was paid
[00:39:39] And so that day I called off all my jobs and I
[00:39:43] The Pio I had to go see my Pio and I was like I'm staying she's like
[00:39:48] I have a lot of people today. I can't get to you
[00:39:50] I'm like I'm not leaving until we talk
[00:39:52] I'll sit right here. I'm not leaving and I sat there and of course she made me wait till the end of the day
[00:39:57] Because she was not a nice person and that's okay
[00:40:01] She gets to be that way, you know
[00:40:03] And I remember when she took me into the office is she looked at my account. She's like
[00:40:08] Looks like you're all paid in full. I was like seriously check everything
[00:40:14] She did and um
[00:40:16] I couldn't believe that I paid it all off
[00:40:19] And that was a miracle. I don't know how it happened
[00:40:23] I just did what my sponsor told me to do and and it worked, you know
[00:40:29] So with all that being said, you know, I remember
[00:40:34] I was told to fill out an application by this new sponsor that I got
[00:40:40] And it was so that way I could start volunteering at the prison. I was like
[00:40:46] I don't know that that's a good idea
[00:40:49] I don't know that I want to go back in to the prison. I'm kind of scared
[00:40:55] And she's like just fill it out
[00:40:58] Okay, so I filled it out
[00:41:01] turned it in I wasn't even off paper yet and uh
[00:41:06] The other lady was like
[00:41:08] Look you don't have to lie about going in and being arrested and bubble bomb. I'm like
[00:41:14] For the first time I had to prove that I was arrested and prison
[00:41:18] And all this other stuff and I was like what so I had to go to the courthouse. I had to get the whole
[00:41:24] The whole file and it was a lot
[00:41:27] And I had to take it to my sponsor's house
[00:41:29] I remember sitting on the couch with her and we called the lady that does the prison
[00:41:33] And she's like what and we had to send all of this stuff in because they said they couldn't see it
[00:41:40] And we were just like what?
[00:41:43] I don't know where it all went
[00:41:44] But I had all of it printed out so it's it's there but
[00:41:50] whatever
[00:41:51] So god
[00:41:54] Open the doors for me to go into prison
[00:41:57] and
[00:41:59] Take the message of narcotics anonymous into the prison
[00:42:03] And um, I have been doing that
[00:42:07] And it's changed my life. I love doing that for the ladies
[00:42:11] I love walking in there and giving them hope and
[00:42:18] just a spark of
[00:42:21] success that I've gone through and giving them the idea that they get out
[00:42:27] And they can do it too, you know, the biggest thing that I have found is that
[00:42:32] um
[00:42:34] We need resources when we get out. We need to be able to get plugged in
[00:42:39] And have somebody that we can talk to
[00:42:42] um, that will help us lead us guide us the whole works, you know
[00:42:48] Yeah
[00:42:49] And um, so my promise to the women in there is when you get out
[00:42:54] Look me up
[00:42:55] And I will get you into whoever I can get you into
[00:42:58] I will introduce you to people. I will
[00:43:02] Give them phone numbers to you. I will
[00:43:06] Whatever and I remember um when we were at Krikna
[00:43:10] Um, two of the girls that I went into prison and seen they came up and they were like we're here
[00:43:16] I remember that yeah, and I was like we're going to get numbers
[00:43:19] And I made them go with me and I got numbers for them everywhere. Yeah, and um
[00:43:25] They call me all the time I get messages and um, what does that feel like for you KC when when women who
[00:43:32] You know that you've planted that seed for them in prison
[00:43:36] And then you get the opportunity to see them out here
[00:43:39] And they remember you and they come up to you and they say thank you for being that that person for me that
[00:43:45] Carried that message
[00:43:47] It's better than dope. Yeah, better than dope. Yeah
[00:43:53] Um, I can't I can't even give a real answer to that because
[00:43:59] There's no
[00:44:00] Better feeling to know that
[00:44:03] That person got out
[00:44:06] And you did what you said you were going to do yeah, and
[00:44:10] They're right there in front of you living proof that it works
[00:44:14] That what I go in and do is worth it 100%
[00:44:18] Because when they get out and they succeed there's women that have gotten out and they are completely successful
[00:44:25] I know one girl she's up in Fort Collins. She's part of a church
[00:44:29] She does all of the like church planning and all of the like grant planning and everything
[00:44:35] And I love her to pieces and she's she baptizes people
[00:44:40] I mean, I just love seeing that they are succeeding
[00:44:45] because
[00:44:46] I have like a small piece of their life in me
[00:44:50] Mm-hmm. I got to be a part of that yeah, and I love that they are like
[00:44:56] I just love seeing you come in, you know, you get
[00:44:59] You know dressed up your nails done you smell good and we just want to do that
[00:45:04] You know because we're stuck in the green and gold
[00:45:08] We have to do this and that and it sucks and I know it sucks
[00:45:13] But when you get out you just want to feel like you matter
[00:45:17] And you're worth something and I remember not feeling like I was worth something when I was in jail
[00:45:25] Like I wasn't going to make it out. I wasn't going to be worth anything, you know
[00:45:30] But those women they get out of prison and then they get plugged in and then they're like I can do this
[00:45:37] They feel like they can do it and that matters, you know
[00:45:42] And to me it's like
[00:45:45] It's just better than dope. Yeah, yeah, that's really it. That's a powerful way to say it
[00:45:50] Um
[00:45:51] Dope work for a long time
[00:45:54] It did because I did it
[00:45:56] It didn't stop working for me
[00:45:59] The state of Colorado decided it was going to stop working for me
[00:46:03] They decided as a whole, you know and
[00:46:07] Remove me from society that was not a choice
[00:46:11] My choice was to stay
[00:46:14] And um
[00:46:17] You know, I just I continue doing this because
[00:46:22] I know what it does for me, you know
[00:46:25] Here's the other part of it, you know
[00:46:27] I will tell you like a lot of people have say
[00:46:30] Um and I'm very jealous that they say the obsession of getting loaded
[00:46:36] Is removed and um
[00:46:39] That is not the case for me
[00:46:41] It's still a thing in my brain, you know some people say it's just a fleeting thought
[00:46:48] Well, I'm here to tell you I have 14 plus years
[00:46:52] In recovery and I still get up in the morning going
[00:46:57] I could either do God or dope
[00:47:00] That's what I could do right now
[00:47:02] Before I roll out of batting get to my knees there's still an option
[00:47:07] And I roll out to my knees and I start praying
[00:47:11] Out of habit
[00:47:14] So that way I don't get loaded for today
[00:47:17] It's a just for today program for real for me every day every day
[00:47:22] Some days are better than others
[00:47:25] But I literally get out of bad going
[00:47:28] You know, what if I did it one more time? What would happen
[00:47:32] Could I control it today before my mind goes any further let's pray
[00:47:37] That's literally how it goes for me
[00:47:40] And that's not that's not a lie. It's not a joke. It's a real thing
[00:47:44] and um
[00:47:46] It's still painful
[00:47:48] Because it didn't stop working for me
[00:47:51] I didn't stop getting loaded
[00:47:52] I just didn't stop having a good time
[00:47:55] I was okay with the life I was living
[00:47:59] I was okay with it
[00:48:01] And I will tell you in my last days
[00:48:03] I can remember I would wake up in the morning
[00:48:06] And I had to have a straw
[00:48:08] Three straws taped together in a vodka bottle
[00:48:12] So when I woke up I could before my first breath take a drink
[00:48:16] Because if I didn't I'd be puking
[00:48:19] Because that's just what it was for me
[00:48:21] And I was okay. I was in acceptance of that life
[00:48:26] But that's no way to live
[00:48:28] It's just not
[00:48:30] And I know
[00:48:32] That the consequences are great
[00:48:35] And that's the other reason why I don't get loaded today
[00:48:38] Is because I don't want
[00:48:41] To go back out and do the same things I used to do and think that that's an okay
[00:48:48] You know, I have
[00:48:51] Today I have um my kids back in my life
[00:48:55] Um my oldest son
[00:48:58] Um I love him to pieces. I have two grandbabies by him
[00:49:03] And they are so adorable
[00:49:08] And I love them so so much
[00:49:11] And being a Nana is like a top priority
[00:49:15] And if I get loaded I don't get to be Nana
[00:49:19] I also don't get to be a role model to my kids
[00:49:22] You know my oldest son um
[00:49:27] He decided he wanted to try out his uh
[00:49:32] What do you call it uh his adventure?
[00:49:35] And so he tried it out didn't work so great for him
[00:49:39] And uh he's about done with his stint
[00:49:42] um
[00:49:43] He's been uh
[00:49:45] Clean for just over six months. Okay, so I'm really proud of him
[00:49:50] Yeah, yeah
[00:49:52] And then my uh younger son
[00:49:56] Um
[00:49:57] He is currently
[00:49:59] incarcerated and just was picked up last Monday
[00:50:04] Just down the road from here
[00:50:06] And um
[00:50:08] We're gonna see what kind of stint he's got going on, you know
[00:50:12] And then my daughter um she lives in New Mexico with her dad
[00:50:17] And she is living her best life
[00:50:21] She is in ROTC
[00:50:23] And she is um
[00:50:25] Excelling in school. She's gonna graduate early
[00:50:30] And uh I'm just absolutely proud of her
[00:50:33] Absolutely and um she is so beautiful and so precious
[00:50:39] And I'm so grateful that I get to the
[00:50:41] You know have conversations whether here and there it's really been amazing here lately
[00:50:46] And I wouldn't get to do that either if I was getting loaded
[00:50:50] So you know, I have all these great things
[00:50:53] That I got going on in my life
[00:50:55] Because I'm not getting loaded
[00:50:58] And the consequences of me getting loaded are so
[00:51:02] So big
[00:51:04] So that's why I don't today, you know
[00:51:06] It's the consequences
[00:51:09] And you know, I'm here um
[00:51:13] I got to come here today
[00:51:14] My my uh the career that I have today
[00:51:18] I'm able to leave and do these types of things because
[00:51:23] of the place I work um
[00:51:26] I work for Bailey Land Solutions and um that company is
[00:51:31] Has always had my best interest at heart
[00:51:34] When it comes to volunteering and helping women
[00:51:38] I love to help the women
[00:51:40] And I love um being able to
[00:51:43] Get off work and go to the prison get off work
[00:51:47] And and I volunteered at the gospel home
[00:51:50] And I volunteer
[00:51:52] I mean, I just I do detox. I've done com core
[00:51:55] I do whatever I can
[00:51:57] To stay involved and stay in the middle of the boat
[00:52:01] so
[00:52:02] Like my day doesn't end at four o'clock when I get off
[00:52:05] My day ends at like eight or nine or ten at night
[00:52:09] I literally leave my house at five forty one
[00:52:12] And I get home at eight nine or ten at night
[00:52:15] And that's because I love um being a part of
[00:52:19] Recovery I was gonna say you love it. I do love it. I knew that I knew it um
[00:52:26] The gospel home uh planted a seed so
[00:52:30] I go into the gospel home and I I love doing Bible studies there
[00:52:35] Um, I'm now doing narcotics anonymous meetings in there um
[00:52:40] She has got this Maryland has got an amazing recovery program for her
[00:52:46] Place out there. So I love volunteering there um
[00:52:50] I just I love being in the middle of all of that because um
[00:52:55] I want to give back
[00:52:57] What was so freely given with that woman coming into jail
[00:53:01] And just showing up for me and she didn't know me
[00:53:05] She's amazing and I mean she
[00:53:09] She made it her mission to be there for you
[00:53:12] And you you said you hated her I caught that. I did. Yeah, I hated her
[00:53:16] And her posse and yet with her whole mission she has totally molded you
[00:53:22] Into a reflection of her
[00:53:25] where you are essentially her
[00:53:28] Like a surrogate of her now doing her outreach also
[00:53:33] Kind of the same thing now you're there stepping up for people the same way
[00:53:37] I
[00:53:38] Just love it is beautiful because the what I have learned is that the more I reach my hand out the more I give away the more I receive
[00:53:49] You know the more I get back I think the more it reinforces that recovery that you say that you still fight with every day every day
[00:53:57] But I love my life today um
[00:54:01] I
[00:54:03] Can I mention that you're the controller for your construction company?
[00:54:06] Because you mentioned earlier that you were a ninth grade education and I just want to reinforce now that in your recovery
[00:54:13] You literally run up and down a construction company. I do but I work hard and will own one one day
[00:54:20] Absolutely, but you know it took a lot of hard work and a lot of late nights and a lot of research and a lot of
[00:54:27] Online classes and getting certifications online
[00:54:32] To become what I am today. I didn't learn how to do math overnight and I didn't learn
[00:54:39] About stormwater and rain gardens and control measures
[00:54:43] um by just showing up
[00:54:45] I had to learn all of that stuff to become who I am today
[00:54:50] I could probably post more
[00:54:53] Certs on this wall than you have wall
[00:54:56] But that's because I was determined to become
[00:55:01] a better version of myself than what I was
[00:55:05] And because I've done that now I can give that back to others. I can help other women see
[00:55:13] There is a light at the end of that tunnel and they can become whatever they want to become
[00:55:19] If their want to is great enough
[00:55:21] And my want to is great enough. I wanted to become
[00:55:25] The best that I could possibly be, you know
[00:55:29] And I got the job that I have today
[00:55:31] Just because my current sponsor she wrote an email out and she
[00:55:37] asked people if they needed a part-time job helping this guy do his books
[00:55:42] And I was like, I don't want to get I don't want to take away anybody's part-time job
[00:55:46] I had a full-time job and a part-time job at the time
[00:55:49] I don't want to take away from anybody who needed one, you know
[00:55:52] And I tried back a week later and or it came up in my Microsoft like did you respond?
[00:55:58] You know, and I'm like so I just asked her did it did it happen or and they're like nobody
[00:56:03] Nobody is responded. So I was like well, here's my resume
[00:56:07] I could probably promise 20 hours, you know
[00:56:10] And so I
[00:56:12] And then I was like going through a divorce with my ex and
[00:56:16] I had three weeks vacation already ready to go
[00:56:20] So I just took that three weeks and I got his books in order and I got all these things going on
[00:56:26] And I really helped him out and then I went back to work and he was like
[00:56:31] I need you full-time
[00:56:33] and I was like
[00:56:35] I don't know that that's gonna happen
[00:56:38] and uh, you know
[00:56:41] The way it worked out was
[00:56:43] God just had a plan for me
[00:56:46] And I just had to fulfill what he has for me
[00:56:50] And so what I have found out
[00:56:53] I just walk in what he wants me to do
[00:56:56] I see that he leads me guides me and directs me in all that I do today
[00:57:00] I do the best that that I can and staying in the lane that I'm in
[00:57:04] um
[00:57:06] You know today
[00:57:09] I never thought I'd be where I am at
[00:57:12] Um
[00:57:13] Today, I am a partner in another business um and then
[00:57:18] I partner in another business so I do have two other businesses that
[00:57:24] um are starting up and you know one of them is going to be a recovery home
[00:57:29] And I'm really looking forward to that
[00:57:31] That's gonna be called the well
[00:57:33] The well and you're gonna open that in Pueblo
[00:57:36] Correct. That's the goal, right? Yes
[00:57:38] I can't wait to hear more about that
[00:57:40] I can't wait. I can't wait
[00:57:42] So it's women's history month
[00:57:44] And I don't think that
[00:57:46] Somebody could have come in here and put together
[00:57:48] Um a share that involved more that made me feel like a celebration of women's history month and you just did
[00:57:56] Thank you
[00:57:57] Especially with that team of women
[00:57:59] Yeah
[00:58:00] Boosted you up. Yeah, it's a celebration
[00:58:04] Celebrate celebrate women heck yeah
[00:58:07] I love women today. Yes
[00:58:09] You know what I've learned about women is when we first get into recovery
[00:58:13] It's all about comparing one to another
[00:58:16] And um my goal is to help women understand we don't need to compete
[00:58:21] And we don't need to compare
[00:58:23] We just need to love each other. Yes
[00:58:25] And the more we love on each other
[00:58:28] The better and brighter our future will be
[00:58:30] Yes
[00:58:30] And I've learned that the women in recovery just want to see me succeed
[00:58:35] That's right. Yeah
[00:58:35] They don't want to see me fail
[00:58:37] So they're just there to help me
[00:58:39] If I'm willing to listen and and be okay with hearing what they got to say. Yeah
[00:58:44] Exactly
[00:58:45] Yep, that's so true
[00:58:47] Yep
[00:58:48] That's why I love women today and I'll do whatever I can to help them
[00:58:51] Yep and support them and lift them up
[00:58:53] That's right
[00:58:54] Yep
[00:58:55] Amen I am so
[00:58:57] I am proud of you
[00:58:58] Thank you
[00:58:59] And I am thankful for you and it's a pleasure to
[00:59:03] um
[00:59:04] To get to vibe with you here
[00:59:06] To meet you
[00:59:07] And now say that you have entered my circle of my life and to be able to cross pass with you
[00:59:12] It's it's great
[00:59:13] Thank you very much. It's been a pleasure
[00:59:15] It's pleasure is all ours
[00:59:17] So if people want to reach out to you
[00:59:19] How could they reach you if they if there's a woman out there who says hey
[00:59:23] I need to talk to you. I need to speak with you
[00:59:26] Sure
[00:59:27] So
[00:59:28] I'm the only Casey Beds on Facebook that spelled k-a-c-e-y-b-e-t-t-s
[00:59:34] Reach out to me at any time
[00:59:36] Um
[00:59:38] Other than that um
[00:59:39] I have tons of contacts everywhere I go
[00:59:43] There's not too many places I go
[00:59:45] There was a list of people here
[00:59:49] Gregory Keith Betts
[00:59:50] It's my son
[00:59:51] I know he said mama
[00:59:54] My oldest
[00:59:55] Yeah
[00:59:55] Shout out to him there
[00:59:56] Um
[00:59:57] Well Casey, I want to thank you for being our guest
[00:59:59] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much
[01:00:01] Thank you for having me
[01:00:02] Thank you for having me
[01:00:03] Yes
[01:00:04] Watch over here
[01:00:05] You are a super butt
[01:00:07] butt kicker. I was gonna say kisser
[01:00:09] That's not it
[01:00:09] Butt kicker
[01:00:10] A super butt kicker
[01:00:12] But we're making history much
[01:00:14] So thank you
[01:00:16] Once again, it's spelled k-a-c-e-y-b-e-t-t-s
[01:00:19] As she said
[01:00:20] Finder on Facebook
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[01:00:25] Thank you for sharing
[01:00:26] Do that
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