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[00:01:02] Hey everybody, welcome to Reel Nerds Podcast.
[00:01:18] Reel Nerds Podcast. Hands down, the best movie podcast in all the internet. I am Ryan and I am joined by Brad.
[00:01:25] Holy shit, we're in the same room doing a regular episode.
[00:01:28] I know, it's been, I think it's actually been years.
[00:01:30] I think it has.
[00:01:31] But it feels good to see you Brad, because I didn't want to say this earlier, but you're a good looking guy.
[00:01:36] Oh, do you need glasses?
[00:01:37] No, I'm sitting so close to you, I see you for the first time.
[00:01:43] I was going to say, like, we haven't looked into each other's eyes for a review in years.
[00:01:48] I know.
[00:01:49] It's like, usually it's just a name on a screen.
[00:01:51] It is.
[00:01:52] I'm just picturing your face.
[00:01:53] And the only reason I do is because, you know, my internet, I don't want it to slow down.
[00:01:57] Yeah.
[00:01:57] And so I just put up whatever the human emoticon emoji thing is.
[00:02:02] And all the big podcasts these days, they do video podcasts, and here we are old school, just like, no video.
[00:02:08] I don't think it's that exciting watching me talk.
[00:02:11] I don't watch podcasts.
[00:02:12] Neither do I.
[00:02:13] Maybe we just don't know.
[00:02:14] We are like the old hands at podcasting.
[00:02:17] Yeah.
[00:02:18] But, you know, it's okay.
[00:02:19] Because every once in a while we see a movie, and it's interesting that this movie, one, it exists, and that it's as popular as it is.
[00:02:29] Our film of the week is Terrifier 3.
[00:02:32] Stay tuned.
[00:02:32] We'll recommend the film or not, play the trailer, then spoil the film.
[00:02:36] We'll also talk about the big movie news and stuff we've watched throughout the week.
[00:02:41] Brad, how was your week?
[00:02:42] It seems like you were busy here at the beautiful Blug Theater doing events.
[00:02:46] Yeah, this weekend's nuts.
[00:02:51] Gosh, where do I go back?
[00:02:52] So, yeah, I've been trying to Instacart like crazy this week, and then all of a sudden I got this idea for a Halloween costume.
[00:02:59] I was like, okay, I've got to get that ready for Saturday.
[00:03:01] And then we've been planning for the Bug Theater.
[00:03:05] It's our 30th anniversary, right?
[00:03:07] Yeah, 30th anniversary event on Saturday, which also coincided with my monthly event of Weird Theater, screening there,
[00:03:15] and then also screening stuff at the Mayan with friends.
[00:03:20] And, yeah, so it was like...
[00:03:21] There was a great article.
[00:03:22] You should check it out on The Westward about the bug.
[00:03:25] You should read it.
[00:03:26] Oh, yeah, I think I shared it.
[00:03:27] Yeah.
[00:03:27] About the history of it.
[00:03:28] The history of it.
[00:03:29] It's really cool.
[00:03:30] Yeah, I remember recording after all that happened.
[00:03:33] And it was like the...
[00:03:36] The anniversary event was as hectic as it was.
[00:03:40] It was really cool, and I wish we could do a variety show like that every month because...
[00:03:44] Yeah, just give everyone a sampling of everything the Bug is capable of.
[00:03:48] Yeah.
[00:03:48] Because we had indie movies screened.
[00:03:50] We had burlesque.
[00:03:51] We had stand-up comedy.
[00:03:53] We had a TED Talk about the history of the theater.
[00:03:59] A performance art thing that represents Freak Train.
[00:04:02] It was really great.
[00:04:04] So, yeah, it was a great show.
[00:04:08] Yeah, so that's right.
[00:04:09] How was your week?
[00:04:10] Oh, yeah, you had a big week.
[00:04:11] Yeah, I was super busy.
[00:04:13] I was working, and about a month ago, my wife and I decided to put our house on the market
[00:04:20] to move back down into the metro area because my wife is an overnight ER nurse, and so her
[00:04:27] job's down here.
[00:04:28] My kid is going to school now in Jefferson County, no longer in Clear Creek.
[00:04:33] And honestly, I really wanted to move back down into the Lakewood-Littleton area because
[00:04:39] I missed being down here.
[00:04:41] And it's been seven years, and I'm starting to outgrow my house, and it took a lot of...
[00:04:47] And you love driving really far to work?
[00:04:49] Yeah.
[00:04:49] Well, I don't mind that because...
[00:04:52] Actually, it's good because I can decompress.
[00:04:54] There's times when my job, it's really overwhelming sometimes what I do.
[00:04:59] No.
[00:05:00] It is.
[00:05:01] What?
[00:05:01] Yeah, serving burritos is really overwhelming.
[00:05:04] And so it's like I immediately get off work, and I'm right back in, and I have to make dinner,
[00:05:11] and I have to do all this stuff while I've just dealt with someone screaming at me or getting
[00:05:16] in a fight, which happened last week.
[00:05:19] And you can't...
[00:05:21] There's no decompressing.
[00:05:23] It's always one thing right to the next.
[00:05:25] And people know where I live, so going sometimes to the grocery store is really awkward, or going
[00:05:30] into a restaurant is awkward just because of what I do first day.
[00:05:34] It's going to be fun to have you back.
[00:05:36] Yeah.
[00:05:36] Do more of these in person.
[00:05:38] It's going to be great.
[00:05:39] My basement is almost as big as the house I live in now.
[00:05:45] My house I'm moving from is 1,400 square feet, and my basement is almost 900.
[00:05:52] So yeah, it should be really cool.
[00:05:55] We'll have to figure something out because I do want a podcasting area down there.
[00:06:01] And my wife said I can do whatever I want with the basement.
[00:06:04] Holy shit, Zach's here.
[00:06:05] Yeah.
[00:06:06] Welcome back, Zach.
[00:06:06] Where'd you come from?
[00:06:07] I thought I got rid of you.
[00:06:09] I thought I sent you to the mountains.
[00:06:12] Now, Zach has not seen Terrifier 3, but he's going to sit in and comment on our stupidity
[00:06:19] or something.
[00:06:19] I don't know.
[00:06:20] Terrifier?
[00:06:21] More like Jerkifier.
[00:06:23] Yeah.
[00:06:25] I don't know.
[00:06:25] I do like the first Terrifier.
[00:06:27] I will watch 2 and 3 eventually.
[00:06:30] But I'm just here to have fun with you guys.
[00:06:32] Yeah.
[00:06:32] You know, a funny story is I was re-watching Terrifier and Terrifier 2 last week or two
[00:06:38] weeks ago.
[00:06:38] To relax.
[00:06:40] Technically, this episode is airing before a film-splosion.
[00:06:44] Anyways, I watched both of them and then I went back and put Terrifier in because I
[00:06:48] wanted to watch the special features.
[00:06:51] Because I love how they make up.
[00:06:55] So that night I watched them.
[00:06:58] I went to bed.
[00:07:00] Woke up.
[00:07:01] I had to go to work.
[00:07:01] And so I got in the shower and I was taking Kellen to school.
[00:07:04] And I turn off the shower and I hear, wee!
[00:07:07] I'm like, oh my God.
[00:07:08] That sounds like Terrifier music.
[00:07:10] Kellen accidentally turned on the DVD.
[00:07:13] And it didn't play the movie.
[00:07:14] But I don't know if you've seen the menu on the Terrifier Blu-ray.
[00:07:18] No.
[00:07:19] It's literally like Arthur Crown grabbing utensils and smiling and there's blood all over his
[00:07:23] face.
[00:07:24] And Kellen says, Daddy, what's Terrifier?
[00:07:26] Oh, God.
[00:07:28] And so...
[00:07:28] It's a Disney movie.
[00:07:29] Oh my God.
[00:07:30] You know, and then he fast forward to the scene where the lady gets sawed in half and
[00:07:34] it's just...
[00:07:34] He's like, Daddy, isn't that cool?
[00:07:37] I said, oh no, I'm just kidding.
[00:07:39] But just the menu with the...
[00:07:44] It freaked him out.
[00:07:45] So...
[00:07:45] Oh, yeah.
[00:07:46] The character design of Arthur Clown is really iconic now.
[00:07:51] Yeah.
[00:07:51] You've scarred him the same way that Entertainment Weekly...
[00:07:56] I think it was summer 2002 movie preview guide scarred me when I first saw the image of Michael
[00:08:03] Myers standing over Tyra Banks like, what is that guy?
[00:08:08] Welcome to Dage-tainment, baby.
[00:08:10] This must be the best of all of them because they've let it go on for eight movies.
[00:08:15] So, yeah.
[00:08:17] Busy week.
[00:08:18] Hopefully on Wednesday everything will be signed and I'll be good to go.
[00:08:26] This week on Real Nerds Podcast, we saw Terrifier 3.
[00:08:29] Brad, do you recommend the third chapter of Art the Clown?
[00:08:33] No.
[00:08:35] No?
[00:08:39] I appreciate the success these movies have had, but I try to remember my review of it on Letterboxd.
[00:08:47] It was like, they're just a bunch of snuff film set pieces with a very loose narrative connecting
[00:08:57] them all.
[00:08:57] I was so bored.
[00:08:59] Not that I love the gore that much.
[00:09:02] It's pretty gratuitous and not as nuanced as other cooler, violent cinema.
[00:09:09] But the narrative stuff is so boring to me.
[00:09:15] Like, so much of the movie is like, yeah, she's traumatized by the last thing and she's
[00:09:22] figuring it out and it never really goes anywhere for me.
[00:09:27] Um, and then, yeah, some of the gore stuff is pretty cool, but also a lot of it's like
[00:09:33] a little cartoony, I think, compared to the other ones.
[00:09:36] Like, like a lot more Looney Tunes-ish.
[00:09:39] Um, and I just don't really know, like, I know, like, art's not, um, I don't need an
[00:09:44] explanation of, like, how art works and how he's, like, back.
[00:09:48] But still, it's like, it just feels like the movie's just a bunch of set pieces that
[00:09:52] they like, oh, this would be cool to film.
[00:09:54] And then, I don't know, we'll figure out the story, you know, like a 48 hour film.
[00:09:59] Like, we'll find something to connect them.
[00:10:03] I love this movie.
[00:10:04] Yeah, you do.
[00:10:05] Uh, I think they're so fun and so unique.
[00:10:08] Um, it is weird saying fun when they're that gratuitous.
[00:10:12] Cause yeah, at the end of the day, it feels like a snuff film.
[00:10:15] Um, but the actor who plays Art the Clown, his movements and how he does things is very
[00:10:25] unique.
[00:10:26] And quite accidentally, he created a new horror, like, icon.
[00:10:33] Um, because I, I remember going to Telluride in 2013 and seeing All Hallows Eve, which Art
[00:10:39] the Clown is in, but it's a play, he's portrayed by a different actor.
[00:10:43] And, um, and it's like, that was an anthology film, right?
[00:10:46] It was like just one film and a bunch of others.
[00:10:48] He was terrorizing that woman at the gas station.
[00:10:52] Um, and it just now that David Thornton, I forget his middle name, but that he, his stage
[00:10:59] name is David Howard Thornton, Howard Thornton.
[00:11:02] There you go.
[00:11:02] Um, he just brings this, I don't know.
[00:11:07] I don't know the right word, but it, the film works for me.
[00:11:10] I think it's really fun.
[00:11:12] Um, yes, it's gratuitous, but there's, there's something there.
[00:11:16] Here's a trailer for Terrifier 3.
[00:11:20] You survived the most famous serial killer since Jack the Ripper.
[00:11:26] The five-year anniversary is coming up.
[00:11:28] I think a lot of people would really like to hear from you after all this time.
[00:11:34] I want to know what it's like to be in the presence of that kind of evil.
[00:11:39] What goes through your brain when he's close enough to you?
[00:11:43] You feel his breath.
[00:11:45] How can you be sure it was really him?
[00:12:03] I can feel it.
[00:12:05] Who is this Santa?
[00:12:07] He's scaring my kid.
[00:12:08] Yeah, he's scaring me too.
[00:12:11] Hey, Santa's handing out presents!
[00:12:13] And if he was alive, which he isn't, wouldn't you want to get as far away from here as possible,
[00:12:30] as far away from you?
[00:12:32] We both know this isn't over.
[00:12:47] It's still buried there, isn't it?
[00:12:48] Might be the only thing that could stop them.
[00:13:15] The best Christmas ever, filled with fun, smiles, and laughter.
[00:13:34] Uh, Terrifier 3 opens up on Christmas Day, or Christmas Eve, um, with this little girl
[00:13:40] hearing something downstairs.
[00:13:43] And she sees Santa, but it's not Santa, it's Art the Clown.
[00:13:46] Um, he butchers her brother, her family, and, um, it ends with him reaching in to grab
[00:13:54] her hand and most likely kill her too.
[00:13:55] I was excited at that point, because it reminded me of Halloween Kills or Ends, where, like,
[00:14:00] the kid falls off the balcony.
[00:14:02] Yeah.
[00:14:02] It's like, holy shit, they're going for it in this, and then...
[00:14:05] We, uh, we flash back to...
[00:14:07] Fuck.
[00:14:08] Um, the knight with, um...
[00:14:13] And from Terrifier 2, and Art the Clown pops up with his...
[00:14:19] Was decapitated.
[00:14:19] Was decapitated, and he's, um...
[00:14:21] Well, there's a tag scene at the end of Terrifier 2 that we saw a little bit in this one, where
[00:14:26] the woman borns, gives birth to Art's head.
[00:14:31] Um, and then Art gets it back.
[00:14:33] They go to this house and just decide to chill.
[00:14:36] I totally forgot who that, like, disfigured-faced lady was from the second movie.
[00:14:41] Uh, so she's actually from the first film.
[00:14:43] Mm-hmm.
[00:14:43] Um, she is the person who survived his attack.
[00:14:47] Mm-hmm.
[00:14:47] Um, and, uh, we learn, uh, she commits suicide in this film, but she doesn't really die because
[00:14:55] she is a vessel for Art the Clown.
[00:14:56] Um, and...
[00:15:00] Yeah, she's just another demon.
[00:15:02] Uh, he wakes up five years later and decides he's gonna go after, um, Jonathan and, um...
[00:15:12] I can't remember her name.
[00:15:13] The heroine of the film, and I can't believe my brain is just drawing a blank.
[00:15:19] Is it Sienna?
[00:15:19] Sienna?
[00:15:20] Sounds right.
[00:15:23] Um, she's been in a, uh, mental health facility for the last five years.
[00:15:30] She's picked up by her uncle to go live, um, with...
[00:15:36] Yeah, Sienna.
[00:15:36] Okay, cool.
[00:15:37] I got it right.
[00:15:38] Sometimes my brain stops working.
[00:15:39] I think that's a thing of getting old.
[00:15:41] Mm-hmm.
[00:15:42] Um...
[00:15:43] Yeah, so she's in a asylum.
[00:15:45] Yeah, and so she, her uncle picks her up, and she's trying to readjust to life, and she's
[00:15:49] obviously tormented by the images and her experience with Art, um, certain that he's gonna come
[00:15:56] back.
[00:15:56] Well, Art is slowly making his way back, um, and he decides to unleash his fury on Christmas
[00:16:03] time now, not on Halloween.
[00:16:06] And he, uh, finds a Santa Claus in a bar, um, and Clint Howard, and, um, he murders everybody,
[00:16:17] takes a Santa suit, and, um, yeah, then he goes to the mall, has a mall Santa, and her
[00:16:26] brother Jonathan is trying to adjust to life in college, um, and, yeah, then just more bloody
[00:16:33] mayhem happens.
[00:16:35] It sounds great.
[00:16:37] That's what I'm talking about.
[00:16:38] It's like, it just goes from, like, hey, we thought of this cool way to kill someone,
[00:16:42] so here it is, and then...
[00:16:44] Yeah, and it works really well.
[00:16:45] Yeah, there's, like, the, her brother, I thought would figure more into the story, but he really,
[00:16:52] like, dies off screen, and, like...
[00:16:56] You know, when I saw that part in the theater, because, uh, spoilers, um, the uncle goes to
[00:17:02] pick up her brother at college because she's having a freakout, because she's certain she
[00:17:05] saw Art at the mall, and no one believes her, even though he was handing out toys that turned
[00:17:11] into a bomb that killed kids and stuff.
[00:17:14] Uh, but they have the uncle call the brother, and it's definitely Art the Clown, um, on the
[00:17:24] other line.
[00:17:25] Yeah.
[00:17:25] Um, so he ends up killing them both, and it's interesting because that part, I thought, was
[00:17:31] some sort of dream sequence.
[00:17:32] Yeah, it was such a weird cut, because, like, there's stuff going on with Sienna, and then
[00:17:37] all of a sudden, like, yeah, they show her uncle in the car or whatever, talking to Jonathan.
[00:17:43] Yeah.
[00:17:43] And then it just, like, cuts back to the house, and, like, it's already the climax.
[00:17:46] He's literally crucifying the body of...
[00:17:49] Yeah, he's already murdered everyone else.
[00:17:50] Like, it's just like, it felt like there was a scene missing.
[00:17:53] Yeah, I don't...
[00:17:55] Maybe.
[00:17:56] I don't know if they did...
[00:17:57] It was a choice.
[00:17:58] I don't have an answer, because you're right, that part was a little odd, but, I mean, when
[00:18:04] I saw it in theater...
[00:18:05] When I saw...
[00:18:05] My screening was sold out, and, um...
[00:18:11] That scene where he's nailing the uncle to the wall, and, um, like, pulling out his
[00:18:17] guts and stuff, and, um...
[00:18:19] Then they're saying, uh, you know, her little niece is the head in the basket.
[00:18:24] Um, our...
[00:18:25] My theater gasped, and most people were like, oh, my God, through most of the kill scenes.
[00:18:31] Like, even the shower scene, which is pretty gruesome.
[00:18:33] Um, like, oh, but when he stuffed that glass pipe in that woman's mouth and fed her rats
[00:18:39] and then slit her throat and the rats crawled out, um, people in my theater were visibly,
[00:18:46] and you could feel it.
[00:18:48] Everyone was doing, oh, my God!
[00:18:50] And, um...
[00:18:52] And when they revealed that it was her brother who was the actual, uh, dead person, people
[00:18:57] gasped.
[00:18:58] And I said, wow, this movie is a lot more effective, um, as a horror film than maybe I'm giving
[00:19:05] it credit for.
[00:19:06] It's definitely the biggest audience I've seen with the terrifier.
[00:19:10] Um, and, you know, the little hints I loved in it is when Sienna is at the mall, they play
[00:19:16] that, uh, Clown Cafe song over the intercom, and then Art the Clown shows up.
[00:19:21] Um, there's little things.
[00:19:23] And, you know, I really enjoyed this movie.
[00:19:25] I just, like I said, I thought it was fun.
[00:19:26] I think it builds on the mythology, even though it's a little muddled.
[00:19:30] Um, I think this is another instance where someone who has more money now and isn't under
[00:19:38] someone's thumb saying, you need to cut this scene, you need to cut that scene, I think
[00:19:42] it has free will and he makes the movies he wants to make without any cuts that he doesn't.
[00:19:48] And so sometimes the story gets muddled in it.
[00:19:51] Yeah.
[00:19:52] Yeah.
[00:19:52] All the stuff with like her dad and the sketchbook and like all that supernatural stuff.
[00:19:57] Yeah.
[00:19:58] Heroin, like Wonder Woman stuff is like, ugh, I don't get it.
[00:20:01] Like why?
[00:20:01] I mean, it was touched on in the second one, but.
[00:20:03] Oh, it was, yeah.
[00:20:04] I mean, she used her, she harnessed her like powers to like defeat, um, art with it.
[00:20:10] But yeah, it's like in the, in the third one, it never really expands.
[00:20:13] And then it seems like it's like set aside so they can come back for the fourth one as
[00:20:19] a, uh, yeah, as a useful thing.
[00:20:21] But yeah, in the third one, it's very much like, uh, did we even do that?
[00:20:24] It's like, like, yeah, should we have given her powers?
[00:20:28] Like, I don't know.
[00:20:29] Well, let's save it for the fourth one.
[00:20:30] I don't know where it's going to go.
[00:20:33] Yeah.
[00:20:33] Um, but I actually thought the ending was really a melancholy, um, where she spends this
[00:20:41] whole time one trying to protect her brother who are ends up killing.
[00:20:45] And then her niece who falls into like the void.
[00:20:48] I don't know where she falls into.
[00:20:50] Um, and then she realizes that art had just left.
[00:20:56] And what I really loved too is the last bit of the film.
[00:21:02] Um, his art sitting at the bus stop waiting for the bus.
[00:21:06] And then the bus shows up and he sits down and he's beaten and he's beat up and he got
[00:21:14] his ass kicked.
[00:21:15] And then the woman on the bus looks at him and then he goes right back into full art
[00:21:19] mode where he's smiling and waves at her.
[00:21:22] Um, so yeah, I really enjoyed this movie.
[00:21:26] I had lots of fun.
[00:21:27] Um, when he's given more money, I think the film looks a lot better.
[00:21:32] Um, I mean the gore effects are pretty impressive.
[00:21:36] Um, yeah, I just had fun with the movie.
[00:21:39] Hmm.
[00:21:40] Well, good for you.
[00:21:41] Yeah, it is good for me.
[00:21:45] I don't know.
[00:21:46] Sweet.
[00:21:46] And that's Terrifier 3.
[00:21:48] Hey, this is a big movie news story of the week.
[00:21:53] It's real news.
[00:22:00] Uh, so the big movie news of the week is Tom Holland has read the new script for Spider-Man
[00:22:06] and he's really excited.
[00:22:07] He says it still needs some work, but it's almost there.
[00:22:10] Maybe they should bring in Martin Scorsese to do a polish on it or something.
[00:22:14] Um, so that gets me excited because I have a feeling that he's going to show up sooner than
[00:22:21] people think.
[00:22:22] Um, my guess is they're going to start filming this movie in the beginning of the year.
[00:22:26] Sounds about right.
[00:22:27] Cause usually he's told, don't say a fucking thing.
[00:22:30] Don't open your mouth about anything related to the Spider-Man.
[00:22:33] Yeah.
[00:22:34] And he, uh, he, that Spider-Man as a character features prominently in Secret War.
[00:22:41] Um, so I'm guessing that they're going to do a Spidey movie and then, or they're going
[00:22:47] to do Doomsday and then Spider-Man and then he'll show up in Secret War, um, to fight Dr.
[00:22:53] Doom, um, which would be kind of interesting to see.
[00:22:57] Yeah.
[00:22:58] I mean, fighting as hero, if they're going to keep, I don't know if he's going to be
[00:23:02] Tony Stark, you know, I don't know.
[00:23:05] I don't know what they're going to do.
[00:23:07] You know, I was like, I liked learning about him throughout the week though.
[00:23:10] It was not that story is I didn't realize he was in recovery.
[00:23:13] It was really cool.
[00:23:14] Yeah.
[00:23:14] Yeah.
[00:23:14] Very nice to hear.
[00:23:15] Yeah.
[00:23:15] For a couple of years.
[00:23:16] Uh, I think he's been sober for three years.
[00:23:18] People are giving him crap for trying to make a non-alcoholic beer.
[00:23:21] I'm be like, fuck you.
[00:23:21] Like, let him do what he wants.
[00:23:22] Yeah.
[00:23:23] But that, isn't that helping though?
[00:23:24] Yeah.
[00:23:25] It is.
[00:23:25] I'm not, I don't like, I won't drink non-alcoholic beer cause I'm just like, what's the point
[00:23:29] then?
[00:23:29] But people do like that because the taste is something they are familiar with.
[00:23:34] I talked about this a couple of weeks ago when he was, then they hired the director who
[00:23:39] directed Shang-Chi is now going to be this director of Spider-Man four, which would be
[00:23:43] really fun.
[00:23:44] Ooh, nice.
[00:23:44] Um, and he, he's excited about it.
[00:23:48] And, um, he, you know, he took a couple of years off.
[00:23:52] He did that Romeo and Juliet play.
[00:23:54] Um, because I mean, when no way home came out, he literally did uncharted straight into no
[00:23:59] way home.
[00:23:59] Yeah.
[00:23:59] I got exhausted.
[00:24:00] So he deserves a break.
[00:24:02] And then you think it's been three years since Spider-Man's been on the big screen.
[00:24:05] It's a long time for a while there.
[00:24:06] I was getting treated, treat yourself, um, to Spider-Man.
[00:24:11] So yeah, that's really cool.
[00:24:12] It's, it's cool news for me.
[00:24:14] I get really excited because it feels about the time for a new Spider-Man movie.
[00:24:18] Maybe the world's realigning because you're getting, you're getting some Spider-Man more
[00:24:22] coming your way.
[00:24:23] And meanwhile, Scorsese dropped production of two of his films.
[00:24:26] Did he really?
[00:24:28] And also on the 4k front, um, Cary Grant's little scene, Jim, the talk of the town is getting
[00:24:33] a 4k release, which I cannot believe.
[00:24:36] Oh yeah.
[00:24:38] So that's fun.
[00:24:39] Um, Brad, do you have any movie news for me this week?
[00:24:42] No.
[00:24:43] No.
[00:24:43] No.
[00:24:43] Uh, and oh, for Zach, since he's here, um, the day the worth earth blew up the Looney
[00:24:49] Tunes movie is getting at theatrical release in February.
[00:24:52] Yes.
[00:24:53] I don't come on this show that often, but can I just say, uh, for the record, David Zaslav
[00:24:57] is an idiot.
[00:24:58] Yes.
[00:24:59] But, uh, for more, which really cool is they're releasing it in as many theaters that they need
[00:25:06] to, to put it up for the Oscar for best animated feature.
[00:25:08] I know.
[00:25:09] Because I have read a review on IGN and variety and they say it's one of the best
[00:25:13] animated movies they've seen in a long time.
[00:25:15] Is this the one they shelved?
[00:25:16] Yep.
[00:25:16] Well, that's the one that they, the Wile E. Coyote one.
[00:25:19] No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[00:25:20] That's Coyote versus Acme.
[00:25:21] That one is still in the limbo.
[00:25:23] I don't think it's coming out unless day the earth blew up, like really gives catch up entertainment,
[00:25:29] which is distributing it a reason to buy it away.
[00:25:32] But, uh, I love that they are going to get this out and do that qualifying run because
[00:25:38] I'll be honest.
[00:25:40] I'm angry at Warner brothers for having let it go in the first place.
[00:25:43] So if it ends up winning an Oscar and doing well financially, even in some form or fashion,
[00:25:48] it'll be a nice lesson for them to understand that they shouldn't mess around with these
[00:25:51] characters anymore.
[00:25:52] It's also pretty embarrassing.
[00:25:54] And I, we didn't talk about it cause I'm not big on talking about people's failures.
[00:25:58] No, I know.
[00:25:59] But the, um, you know, the Joker movie got decimated because weird.
[00:26:04] You'd give a movie to people and you spit in their faces about who the Joker is and they
[00:26:08] don't want to see it again.
[00:26:09] Um, so you, I haven't seen it, so I don't know.
[00:26:14] Well, they spent 200, over $200 million on the film on a courtroom drama.
[00:26:19] Yes.
[00:26:19] Plus marketing.
[00:26:20] So you're at what?
[00:26:21] 350, 400 million probably.
[00:26:23] Yeah.
[00:26:24] Um, and then you shelf back girl because you want to, the tax thing.
[00:26:30] There's an article on variety that they're losing almost twice as much money on releasing
[00:26:36] the Joker fully I do in theaters than Batgirl costs for them to shelve.
[00:26:42] Right.
[00:26:42] So you have a business model that leaves a lot to be desired and it's affecting their
[00:26:48] stock.
[00:26:49] And hopefully they'll realize that treating artists this way, isn't the best way to go
[00:26:56] there.
[00:26:57] Uh, in the same article, there's talent that won't work with Warner brothers because
[00:27:01] they're concerned that they'll make a movie and then Warner brothers won't release it.
[00:27:05] Yeah.
[00:27:06] Um, and Deluca, Mike Deluca and Pamela Abdi are really trying to reef like salvage what's
[00:27:13] already been damaged and they can't do it if they keep making these decisions.
[00:27:16] Yep.
[00:27:17] So I'm excited because one, it's a Porky Pig and Daffy movie, which is awesome.
[00:27:20] Mm hmm.
[00:27:21] Yeah.
[00:27:21] Um, and people can go on YouTube and watch like a pretty extended clip of them trying
[00:27:25] to renovate their house for, or not, not renovate it.
[00:27:28] They're, they're polishing it up for the home inspection or the neighborhood inspection or
[00:27:31] something like that.
[00:27:32] Um, it's pure learning to Looney tunes and it's based around the style of those Looney
[00:27:36] tunes cartoons that came out around the time of the pandemic where they're like the anywhere
[00:27:40] from seven to 11 minutes long.
[00:27:42] It's a, it's a, those Looney tunes are a mixture of, I think kind of the nineties and
[00:27:46] thirties.
[00:27:47] Thirties, forties.
[00:27:48] Yeah.
[00:27:48] They've got a forties design, but in, uh, and an early forties, uh, attitude.
[00:27:52] Yeah.
[00:27:52] Yeah.
[00:27:52] So it's fun.
[00:27:53] So it's good stuff.
[00:27:54] Yeah.
[00:27:55] Um, and I don't want Warner brothers to fail.
[00:27:57] I'm just, I'm just, I can only go off of what I'm objectively seeing happen.
[00:28:01] Yes.
[00:28:02] These are films we watched throughout the week in a segment I call what we've been watching.
[00:28:09] So, uh, yeah, this is the stuff we've been watching.
[00:28:13] You should call it something else by like, like things are eyeballs witnessed or something.
[00:28:18] Um, did I tell you why I call it that?
[00:28:21] Why?
[00:28:21] Um, so in the early nineties, I was a really big fan of tells from the crypt on HBO and
[00:28:28] the crypt creeper would always introduce the stories and he'd say, in a town I call werewolf
[00:28:35] in cars.
[00:28:37] Seat.
[00:28:37] Oh, I don't know.
[00:28:38] Yeah.
[00:28:38] Yeah.
[00:28:38] Whatever.
[00:28:39] Whatever.
[00:28:39] So mine is stuff we've been watching.
[00:28:41] Nice.
[00:28:42] And a segment I like to call, that's my little homage.
[00:28:45] Nice.
[00:28:45] Um, Zach, it's your first time on the show in a long time.
[00:28:47] What'd you watch this week?
[00:28:49] Um, well, uh, I'll bring you a classic film and a recent film.
[00:28:53] Uh, so for a classic film, uh, it'd be easy to talk about, um, uh, all the horror stuff
[00:28:58] I've been ingesting for Ballyhoo purposes.
[00:29:00] Um, but I'll bring up two things.
[00:29:02] Number one, I watched the 4k restoration of, I walked with a zombie that Criterion just put
[00:29:07] out.
[00:29:08] So if nobody's ever seen, I walked with a zombie, I highly encourage you to do so.
[00:29:12] Picking up this Blu-ray that also comes with the seventh victim might also be, uh, a great
[00:29:17] enticement, great Blu-ray, tons of wonderful special features.
[00:29:21] Um, really cool to see secret history of Hollywood being used as a audio commentary track slash
[00:29:25] visual essay as well.
[00:29:27] Um, uh, but the 4k restoration on these things looks fucking fantastic.
[00:29:31] Like I've only known this and the seventh victim to look like pretty rough from the original
[00:29:36] Warner Brothers releases cause they were doing whatever scan they could.
[00:29:39] Um, this one just, it's miles, miles of difference.
[00:29:43] Um, so I would definitely check it out.
[00:29:44] Um, for something that people may not know about though, I watched, I decided to do Republic
[00:29:50] pictures, horror films for people don't know.
[00:29:53] Republic was one of those poverty row studios.
[00:29:55] They made a lot of cheap Westerns.
[00:29:57] Um, sometimes they would make an occasional classic or try to go for higher art.
[00:30:01] Like Orson Welles made Macbeth there because it was the only studio that would give them
[00:30:05] the money to do it.
[00:30:05] Um, but I watched one called the cat man of Paris.
[00:30:08] Uh, this movie is a 66 minutes of cheese.
[00:30:14] So good.
[00:30:14] You just want to eat it up regardless of how constipated it makes you.
[00:30:17] It is very fucking wonderful to watch.
[00:30:20] Uh, definitely cheaply made, definitely reusing different angles and footage wherever they
[00:30:25] can.
[00:30:25] But that movie saw cat man or cat people from the Val Luton, uh, RKO unit and said, yeah,
[00:30:32] what if we like harp on that success and actually give them a cat thing instead of an ambiguity?
[00:30:40] Um, so it's like the Friday the 13th to cat people's Halloween where somebody goes like,
[00:30:45] Hey, Halloween's doing great.
[00:30:46] Let's rip it off.
[00:30:47] Friday the 13th happens.
[00:30:48] Um, I will say though, that it is a pure joy to watch this.
[00:30:51] If you're looking for MST three key level, uh, uh, like cheap movie making, but you're
[00:30:59] not like, you're not laughing at it necessarily.
[00:31:02] You do see the effort.
[00:31:04] It's like watching plan nine from outer space to a certain extent.
[00:31:06] Like you see the intent, you see what they're trying to do.
[00:31:08] It's not syndically made just a plane of drive in.
[00:31:11] Um, but what I love about it is they scarcely show the cat man and his makeup until the final,
[00:31:17] uh, like four minutes of the movie.
[00:31:20] But when they're showing the cat leaping and out at people and attacking, there's no better
[00:31:25] way to open up your, uh, your villain in a movie than by having a cheap set with a very
[00:31:32] thin tree that clearly is a mere sapling.
[00:31:35] It has yet to become a mighty forest pine.
[00:31:37] And you have a guy walking down the street.
[00:31:40] It's dark and it's cold night out.
[00:31:42] And then from that tiny tree, a full grown man howling like a cat just jumps from it.
[00:31:48] I'm like, Oh, you are clearly standing on a ledge right up above frame.
[00:31:51] This is great.
[00:31:52] I'm on board for all of this.
[00:31:54] Um, and then of course you need to have a, a regular size cat going through a miniature
[00:31:59] thinking, Oh no, this is a giant cat thing, but no.
[00:32:02] And it pulls back and it's the police looking at a diorama surrounded by curtains to hide
[00:32:08] from the fact that they're not in a police station.
[00:32:11] Uh, fantastic stuff.
[00:32:12] Fantastic stuff.
[00:32:13] Cat man of Paris.
[00:32:14] Look it up.
[00:32:15] Um, but for a more modern thing, I hadn't been to the theaters since Deadpool Wolverine
[00:32:19] and I was like, I need to go to a new movie.
[00:32:22] So I went to go see the substance.
[00:32:24] And I wasn't disappointed at all.
[00:32:25] Um, if you've listened to me on this show before, I've advocated for a film called society.
[00:32:30] Uh, and this is the successful grandson of society, more or less.
[00:32:34] Uh, Demi Moore, man.
[00:32:37] Fucking brilliant in that movie.
[00:32:39] Margaret Qualley's great, but this is Demi Moore's movie.
[00:32:42] Margaret Qualley's doing a great supporting job in it.
[00:32:45] Um, and I do like the bravery she has of putting all that makeup on at the end of the movie.
[00:32:49] Um, but yeah, just a wonderfully solid satire about image appearance and the expectation
[00:32:57] of women to look a certain way.
[00:32:58] Um, and just a, a very keen awareness of body horror and disgusting shit.
[00:33:06] Like when she's, when Demi Moore's making like crappy, crappy French or like bad for you French
[00:33:12] food while watching the interview with Margaret Qualley, like the, the slapping and the gushing
[00:33:17] and whatnot.
[00:33:18] My theater was cracking up.
[00:33:19] They were right on board with it, but they're like clearly on uneased by it a little bit.
[00:33:24] Um, and I will say this, I haven't watched Dennis Quaid in a thing recently or whatever.
[00:33:30] Like I don't know.
[00:33:31] That's because he's a Trump supporter.
[00:33:32] Oh, well, regardless though of whatever I, that I will say that I wasn't, my familiarity
[00:33:40] with Dennis Quaid is more like parent trap.
[00:33:42] He's the nice dad and parent trap.
[00:33:43] Right.
[00:33:44] Okay.
[00:33:44] Fine.
[00:33:45] Right.
[00:33:45] I always think of him as the dude in Jaws three.
[00:33:48] I forgot he's in Jaws three.
[00:33:50] Um, but so imagine my shock when he is playing the sleaziest of Hollywood producers of all
[00:33:57] time and he is crushing it.
[00:33:58] He is crushing it.
[00:33:59] It's always really uncomfortable when he's eating the shrimp.
[00:34:00] Yes.
[00:34:01] That shrimp thing is fucking unnerving.
[00:34:03] Um, and so like, I was just, I was just not expecting the performances to hit on all cylinders.
[00:34:09] Like I know Margaret Qualley's like on a streak right now, but hadn't seen more in Quaid
[00:34:14] in a while.
[00:34:15] So it was just interesting to watch them perform and remind you like, oh yeah, they're, they're
[00:34:18] good at what they do.
[00:34:19] Um, and, uh, I am a proponent of final shots in a movie.
[00:34:25] Uh, that final shot in the movie made, I'm not going to spoil it, but that final shot, that
[00:34:35] thing shot it up to the number one, number two spot.
[00:34:38] It's taught, it's fighting with late night with the devil for me, for my favorite film
[00:34:41] of the year, because that final shot is fucking ballsy and I love it.
[00:34:45] Um, and I love how the whole movie just starts off with a simple egg being duplicated.
[00:34:49] Uh, so yeah, that's what I watched.
[00:34:51] The substance.
[00:34:52] Check it out.
[00:34:53] Nice.
[00:34:53] Go to a theater for it too.
[00:34:55] And do the same thing where you did with terrifier.
[00:34:57] You watch people's reactions because that movie's fucking long and it, it plays with people in
[00:35:04] the first like hour.
[00:35:05] And then when it starts cranking up, you can see people's reactions turning.
[00:35:09] Like I, I think that people in my audience were prepared for a horror movie.
[00:35:14] I don't think that we're prepared for a brand use of the movie.
[00:35:17] Yeah.
[00:35:17] Um, so I don't disagree.
[00:35:19] Yeah.
[00:35:20] Brad, what'd you watch this week?
[00:35:22] Uh, the main thing I watched was Saturday night, the SNL film.
[00:35:26] Uh, it might be, it's like one of my favorite things of the year.
[00:35:29] Oh, sweet.
[00:35:30] Um, not that it's funny or anything.
[00:35:31] It's just, um, as a filmmaker watching a film about something so chaotic.
[00:35:37] Um, and like, I, I, I just sit there like watching how they make this film because there's
[00:35:44] so much stuff going on in the background and all that shots have to like, you know,
[00:35:47] you're, you're thinking about what a take is and how all those things have to match.
[00:35:51] Um, it just, because the, the tempo of the film is so consistently just manic.
[00:35:56] Yeah.
[00:35:57] A variety called it brilliantly chaotic.
[00:36:00] Yeah.
[00:36:00] Um, it's like a, I, on Letterboxd, it's a cinematic panic attack.
[00:36:05] Um, just watching Lord Michaels try to put together this show that he doesn't even know
[00:36:10] what it's supposed to be.
[00:36:11] And, um, uh, yeah.
[00:36:14] Balancing all these characters, there's like 20, 30 characters that kind of everybody gets
[00:36:19] equal screen time.
[00:36:20] It's nice that they don't like, you know, focus on, you know, the primetime players individually
[00:36:26] that much is like, you know, they, they kind of, you know, Chevy chase, um, gets probably
[00:36:32] a little more, uh, like backstory to him, but everyone else has pretty much dealt equally.
[00:36:38] Although I think the women are probably focused on a little less, like maybe Jane Curden the
[00:36:43] most.
[00:36:44] She's like, she's brilliant.
[00:36:45] Yeah.
[00:36:46] Not a lot of, not a lot of scenes.
[00:36:48] Um, but for the most part, everyone gets equal time.
[00:36:50] Even a lot of people behind the scenes that aren't like, you know, the name people, like
[00:36:53] the lighting guys and the sound people and the booth operators.
[00:36:58] Um, again, it's just like so much craziness.
[00:37:00] And then like Nicholas Braun plays both Jim Henson and Andy Kaufman in the movie.
[00:37:05] I was like, whoa, like, like it's not a choice.
[00:37:09] It's like, it's been interesting to like know why that choice is made.
[00:37:12] Cause you could have cast somebody else in those parts, but like, you know, why they do
[00:37:16] two people, they're easily recognizable as the same person in the movie.
[00:37:21] Um, so like, that was like, I guess one of the secret decision behind that stuff.
[00:37:27] Uh, cause they're both good.
[00:37:28] And, um, yeah.
[00:37:31] Uh, what else?
[00:37:33] Yeah.
[00:37:33] Just really like as cool insight into, you know, it's, I'm sure it's fictionalized in
[00:37:40] a lot of places.
[00:37:40] And there's also cool like things in the background, like, uh, in the writer's room, there's a box
[00:37:45] of colon blow.
[00:37:46] This is 75.
[00:37:47] So that commercial with Phil Hartman hasn't been made yet.
[00:37:50] So it's like, it's a prop to be like, just like an Easter egg for SNL fans that really,
[00:37:56] really wasn't there, you know, when this show debuted and stuff.
[00:37:59] Um, there's a couple other gags I forget.
[00:38:01] That, oh, um, yeah.
[00:38:04] Like, uh, yeah.
[00:38:05] Like the llamas in there, just in the background, like the actual episodes are, um, cause it
[00:38:09] never gets used in a sketch.
[00:38:11] Um, you know, the shark head never appears in the, in the movie, uh, like the episode movie
[00:38:16] thing, but like it wheels around in the background and stuff.
[00:38:19] So yeah, there's just like little Easter eggs like that going on.
[00:38:22] Um, so yeah, it's, it's great.
[00:38:25] Sweet.
[00:38:26] Um, and then.
[00:38:27] How's whoever plays George Carlin doing?
[00:38:29] How'd he do?
[00:38:29] Uh, again, like everyone is like, you know, sometimes they don't look like the person,
[00:38:35] but they have the right vibe.
[00:38:36] Oh, that's good.
[00:38:37] I, I'm more down with that than any lookalike.
[00:38:41] Yeah.
[00:38:42] Um, and they just like, they just cover everybody.
[00:38:45] Like, it's just, again, there's no one like this, uh, like is a strong other than like
[00:38:51] more Michaels is like, it's everything kind of follows more Michaels throughout the whole
[00:38:55] thing.
[00:38:55] Right.
[00:38:55] Um, but everyone else is kind of like an even like percentage of the time focused on.
[00:39:01] Um, and, uh, yeah, George Carlin, like, you know, he's doing coke all the time.
[00:39:06] So he's like in and out of scenes.
[00:39:07] It's just like, yeah, that'll be, that'll be rough to watch.
[00:39:11] Cause I have watched the Apatow documentary and I'm like, ah, that wasn't a fun time though.
[00:39:15] Yeah.
[00:39:16] Shit.
[00:39:16] There's something that snapped on my head for a second.
[00:39:18] I don't want to talk about it.
[00:39:19] And I just totally lost it.
[00:39:20] Oh, I'm sorry.
[00:39:20] Yeah.
[00:39:21] But, um, yeah, it's a, it's, it's, it's, it's, I think it's good.
[00:39:27] Um, check it out.
[00:39:29] Um, and then the, uh, one of the other notable things I watched was, oh, daddy's head, which
[00:39:40] is a, um, fantastic fest horror film.
[00:39:42] I think they all know, um, about this.
[00:39:46] This kid who comes back to his like childhood house and then you find out, um, like ways
[00:39:53] all melancholy.
[00:39:55] Um, when he was younger, um, his dad died in a horrible car wreck and, uh, like season
[00:40:04] in the hospital, like with this huge bandage over his face and everything.
[00:40:08] And then, uh, his wife decides, okay, I'm going to pull the plug cause he's not going to recover.
[00:40:13] And then they go back to their house in the countryside and all this weird shit starts
[00:40:18] happening.
[00:40:20] Um, and then, uh, eventually something from the woods keeps like trying to draw them into
[00:40:26] the woods and like, kind of, it's like setting bait for them.
[00:40:29] Um, and you know, the, the kid, the thing is that the kid kind of sucks.
[00:40:34] Like he's kind of a dickhead, um, for someone who like, I think he's like eight or nine years
[00:40:40] old.
[00:40:41] Um, his dad recently like remarried this woman who's the one who pulled the plug on him.
[00:40:48] Um, but he's, the kid's like not attached to her at all.
[00:40:52] And I assume like, you know, they got married, so they spent like a lot of time, but she,
[00:40:57] uh, acts like she doesn't want kids.
[00:40:59] So I'm like, if she, like she married this dude with obviously, you know, not a newborn
[00:41:06] kid.
[00:41:06] Um, and so she's struggling with like raising this guy, this kid without him.
[00:41:12] Um, and the kid doesn't like her.
[00:41:14] And then even like his, uh, dad's best friend is kind of like stopping by to like, you know,
[00:41:20] I can help you like raise him if you want.
[00:41:23] Um, and the kid is kind of like cold to him too.
[00:41:27] And I assume like they have a better relationship than she, like him and her.
[00:41:31] So, um, yeah, you got this lady who like doesn't really want to deal with this kid and the kid
[00:41:35] doesn't like her.
[00:41:37] And there's like this entity from the forest trying to like screw with them.
[00:41:41] And, uh, I'd say, uh, the coolest thing is maybe the creature itself has like this mirror
[00:41:49] face.
[00:41:50] So it replicates stuff that it looks at.
[00:41:53] Um, and eventually like it draws their family dog out there.
[00:41:56] That's the thing too, is the kid doesn't even like the family dog.
[00:41:59] It's like, yeah.
[00:42:00] Like when the dog spoilers gets like absorbed by the creature, like.
[00:42:05] Um, and then like shredded, um, you know, they find it and the kids just like so obsessed
[00:42:11] with like the creatures, my dad, I gotta go.
[00:42:13] Like, I want to, you know, let me go in the, like the bundle of sticks house with to find
[00:42:20] my dad and like the dog's dead and he like doesn't really care that much.
[00:42:23] Um, yeah.
[00:42:26] So, but like, yeah, later on they find that like the skeleton of the creature and it has
[00:42:32] like this hole in its skull where the mirror should be.
[00:42:34] Like that was the coolest part is like that whole creature idea that it's like a face replicating
[00:42:41] like lizard-y thing.
[00:42:43] Um, but like when it tricks them, it like has the dad's head mounted to it and you can't
[00:42:50] really see the body as like wandering around and it constantly like sneaks into the house
[00:42:54] like opening up little vents and like, uh, trying to convince the kid most of all that like he's
[00:43:00] really his dad and, uh, you shouldn't trust the other people.
[00:43:03] Um, like her, your mom and your stepmom and like his friend and stuff.
[00:43:09] So yeah, it was all right.
[00:43:12] Wow.
[00:43:13] Uh, yeah, that's pretty, yeah, the noble stuff I watched.
[00:43:16] Uh, yeah, I'm going to cheat because, you know, technically we're going to be off for
[00:43:20] two weeks as film splosion comes out.
[00:43:22] Um, the best thing I watched this week is Andrew Garfield with Elmo talking about grief.
[00:43:27] Um, Andrew Garfield lost his mom a couple months ago and he talks about, um, that it's
[00:43:33] okay to miss somebody and that, that you miss them shows that you really love.
[00:43:36] It's a beautiful, I posted on my Facebook because it's just a wonderful little thing
[00:43:40] because you realize that like a Sesame street episode.
[00:43:42] Yeah.
[00:43:43] So you realize that he's on Sesame street talking to Elmo about, uh, loss and grief and
[00:43:48] it, it will, it will help a lot of people.
[00:43:50] Um, I w I watched the remake of Salem's lot, uh, which just debuted on max last week.
[00:43:56] I think does the loss of James Mason ruin it for you.
[00:43:59] Uh, I think the overall picture does.
[00:44:02] Um, not that it's horrible.
[00:44:04] Uh, it's fun seeing Lewis Pullman because I said, man, he looks just like his dad now.
[00:44:09] Um, lone star.
[00:44:10] But my favorite thing when I was watching it, because you have to watch it on max is Laura
[00:44:15] was watching it with me and she said, what is up with the colors on here?
[00:44:18] Why are they so crushed?
[00:44:19] Oh, she understands why streaming sucks.
[00:44:23] And I told her anyways, if you don't know what Salem's lot is, it's a Stephen King film
[00:44:27] or story that takes place in this town called Jerusalem's lot and people go missing because
[00:44:33] a Nosferatu style vampire shows up and, um, he's turning the whole town into vampires as
[00:44:39] well.
[00:44:41] Um, we're all vampires, Lisa.
[00:44:43] Yeah.
[00:44:45] Um, yeah.
[00:44:46] So the creature effect is awesome in this film.
[00:44:48] Like the creature looks awesome.
[00:44:50] Um, he literally looks like Nosferatu, but kind of modern.
[00:44:54] Um, it just kind of just never really picks up.
[00:44:59] I don't feel like it's violent enough.
[00:45:01] It's not creepy enough.
[00:45:03] Um, it's not a bad film, but I wouldn't say it's great.
[00:45:08] Do you think it was worth holding the button, the pause button on it and just doing it to
[00:45:14] streaming or could it have worked in theaters?
[00:45:16] No, it couldn't have worked in theaters.
[00:45:17] Oh, that's sad.
[00:45:18] Um, it's, it, it feels kind of like a TV movie.
[00:45:23] What a coincidence because the first, but not, there is production value in it and it looks
[00:45:31] good.
[00:45:32] It just, it just doesn't connect with me.
[00:45:35] Um, but I mean, if you want to see like creepypies,
[00:45:38] vampire kids and a cool looking vampire, it's awesome.
[00:45:42] The final battle with him is kind of a letdown.
[00:45:44] The only cool part is it takes place at a drive, uh, in and all the town folk, I guess
[00:45:50] it's spoilers.
[00:45:51] Who cares?
[00:45:52] I guess all the, all the town folk, um, are vampires now and they hide in the trunks
[00:45:56] of the cars while they're waiting for the sun to go down.
[00:45:58] So that's pretty cool.
[00:45:59] Um, but the vampire dies like a bitch in it, which sucks.
[00:46:04] Um, well, it's up to Robert Eggers to rescue your face.
[00:46:08] Faith and Nosferatu vampires this Christmas.
[00:46:10] Yes.
[00:46:11] I think that movie looks incredible.
[00:46:13] I'm excited for that.
[00:46:15] Um, this story has been told fucking forever.
[00:46:18] Uh, and the last thing I'll talk about is I went to dismember the Alamo.
[00:46:21] Um, they programmed it for eight hours, which was awesome.
[00:46:25] It was five movies.
[00:46:26] Um, and it was just really fun sitting in a sold out theater, just watching various levels
[00:46:34] and quality of horror films.
[00:46:36] Um, the first one was called the last slumber party.
[00:46:39] Um, which, uh, I put on letterbox.
[00:46:42] The movie is garbage.
[00:46:43] The amateur way it was shot, edited, acted and lit made it fun to watch.
[00:46:47] So some of the lines are so stupid and it's delivered by amateur actors, an amateur director
[00:46:56] and an amateur cinematographer.
[00:46:58] So everything just looks like shit, but in a way it's so bad that the audience was having
[00:47:03] fun with it.
[00:47:05] Um, it's, it's just interesting.
[00:47:10] Uh, the next film I watched was called mute witness, which is directed by the guy who
[00:47:15] directed American werewolf in Paris.
[00:47:16] It's about a woman who is a mute, but not deaf.
[00:47:20] And she works as a makeup design artist on a horror film in Russia.
[00:47:25] Um, she's there with her sister and her sister's, uh, boyfriend is the director of the film.
[00:47:32] He's kind of a douche guy, but he's funny.
[00:47:34] Not like he's, he's not a douche because he's a bad dude.
[00:47:36] He's just like a douche, like filmmaker guy.
[00:47:40] Stupid douchey douche.
[00:47:41] And he, uh, so she, uh, forgets a mask and goes back to the studio to get it while she's
[00:47:47] there.
[00:47:48] The cute cameraman from her film, um, is filming another one and it's a sex scene, um, with
[00:47:56] this masked guy.
[00:47:58] And then he ends up killing her for real.
[00:48:00] And you learn that, uh, they're making snuff films there and that it is with, um, and they're
[00:48:11] sold on the black market.
[00:48:12] The, uh, main bad guy is played by Alec Guinness.
[00:48:15] I don't know if you guys ever heard of him.
[00:48:17] Um, just kidding.
[00:48:19] He literally shot is fun.
[00:48:21] They had a little thing at the end where he shot that 10 years before the movie came
[00:48:24] out and then he died.
[00:48:27] So then they had to, um, they just flipped the shot.
[00:48:30] So it's the same shot, but it looks different.
[00:48:33] It's kind of fun.
[00:48:34] And it's actually not that bad of a movie.
[00:48:35] It's definitely the trappings of the nineties thrillers where there's cheesy and unnecessary
[00:48:41] nudity in it.
[00:48:42] Um, and with really weird editing slow-mo things and the music isn't that great, but it's still
[00:48:49] a pretty fun movie.
[00:48:51] Um, the next one was a trauma film called Luther, the geek, which is about a kid who sees a geek
[00:48:57] in a carnival in the 1930s and decides he wants to be one too, but he also is a serial killer
[00:49:04] later on and he's up for parole.
[00:49:07] And he's been a model prisoner and two people want him to say he can be on parole.
[00:49:13] The other one says no, but he wins two to one.
[00:49:16] And the first thing he does is he goes to a grocery store and eats a grandma's neck because
[00:49:22] that's his thing is he eats people's necks and rips their like throats out to some, I
[00:49:27] don't know who the grandma is, but it's definitely a dude in drag playing the grandma getting eaten.
[00:49:32] Divine.
[00:49:33] No, I would recognize divine.
[00:49:35] I'm joking.
[00:49:35] Um, but it turns into a home invasion thriller, um, which it is effective in some parts.
[00:49:44] There's a great shot of, uh, so he gets in the back of the car of this mom and she's
[00:49:50] coming home.
[00:49:51] Uh, she's bringing the groceries in and there's a, uh, she comes in the last time and the
[00:49:58] door shuts behind her and he gets out of the car and starts running at the door.
[00:50:02] And the way it's framed as you see her in the foreground and then the door and through
[00:50:07] the window of the door is this actor running up to get her and it is shot really well.
[00:50:12] Um, it just goes on about 15 minutes too long.
[00:50:15] Um, the pace really suffers from it.
[00:50:17] Um, the next one I watched was, uh, butcher Baker nightmare maker, which is a story about,
[00:50:25] um, it's, it's a slasher film.
[00:50:28] And, uh, this aunt is raising her nephew because his parents die in a car accident and they show
[00:50:36] this accidents.
[00:50:37] It's, uh, final destination two before that, this dad drives into the back of a log truck
[00:50:44] and you see his head like get snapped back and everything.
[00:50:47] It's pretty brutal.
[00:50:48] Um, and then the woman who plays his aunt is pretty great.
[00:50:53] Let me look up her name cause I want to give her some prompts.
[00:50:55] Um, is Susan Tyrell, who's also a, um, Academy award dominated actress.
[00:51:00] Uh, she plays the aunt, but she is in love with her nephew.
[00:51:06] So there's this weird incestual, uh, like vibe to the film.
[00:51:13] It's like a mixture of, um, Paul Schrader's cat people and, um, Friday the 13th.
[00:51:20] Um, it's really bizarre.
[00:51:23] She's really great in it.
[00:51:25] Um, it's a little campy and there's some harsh language.
[00:51:30] And, uh, the treatment of, um, a homosexual character is really rough, but I will say
[00:51:37] that the character who treats the homosexual character poorly is the only one.
[00:51:42] The film doesn't, if that makes any sense, like the film doesn't make him a caricature
[00:51:48] of being a homosexual.
[00:51:50] Right.
[00:51:50] He's a normal person.
[00:51:51] It's the, the Lieutenant police officer that makes, makes him less of a person.
[00:51:58] It's the overly prejudiced.
[00:52:00] It's yeah, he's a, he's prejudiced.
[00:52:02] And it, it's interesting because it actually affects his police work because there's another
[00:52:07] cop on the, uh, who's talking to him.
[00:52:09] He says, Hey man, you know, obviously this is abbreviated.
[00:52:12] You're not looking at this the right way.
[00:52:13] There's all this evidence for something else, but he can't get past his prejudice.
[00:52:17] Um, so there's dueling stories going on and it's really fascinating.
[00:52:20] Um, and that was fun.
[00:52:22] And then the last film they showed was, uh, James Gunn's slither.
[00:52:26] Nice.
[00:52:27] Which is a really great film.
[00:52:29] I love this film.
[00:52:30] I know Brad's not a big fan of it.
[00:52:31] Uh, but it is goofy over the top, um, violent.
[00:52:38] Um, and it's interesting when you see it's almost 20 years old and Elizabeth Banks looks
[00:52:43] so young in it.
[00:52:44] Um, and the Rook is great in it.
[00:52:47] Um, that's Michael Rooker.
[00:52:49] That's what Kevin Smith calls him in Mallrats commentary, the Rook.
[00:52:53] Um, and it's just about these slugs that infect people and take over this little small town.
[00:52:59] It's a mixture of zombie movies and night of the creeps.
[00:53:04] It's fun stuff.
[00:53:05] And that's what I watched this week.
[00:53:07] Sweet.
[00:53:08] Hey, next week on real nerds podcast, we're doing film splosion 2004.
[00:53:11] I would tell you to send in all your favorite films, but guess what?
[00:53:16] Too late.
[00:53:16] We've already recorded it.
[00:53:18] Let's get behind the curtain of the Emerald city.
[00:53:20] Um, we should do like teaser trailer moments for 2004.
[00:53:25] So like this coming next week, you're wrong about that selection.
[00:53:29] Yes.
[00:53:30] If all you motherfuckers don't put Spider-Man two on your list, I'm going to kill you.
[00:53:34] I swear to God.
[00:53:35] Friendships will be tested.
[00:53:38] Yeah.
[00:53:38] Then we just have that, have the whoosh.
[00:53:41] Whoosh.
[00:53:42] And then of course, ba-do, ba-do, ba-do, ba-do, ba-do, ba-do, ba-do, ba-do, ba-do.
[00:53:46] Um, so thanks for listening.
[00:53:48] Um, I hope you had as much fun listening as I did recording this episode.
[00:53:52] Yeah.
[00:53:53] Brad, any parting words of wisdom?
[00:53:56] Of course not.
[00:53:58] Zach?
[00:54:01] Um, if you're going to be a cat man in Paris, jump off of a tree that is clearly not built
[00:54:08] to support you.
[00:54:09] I think we all can agree on that.
[00:54:11] I agree.
[00:54:12] Yeah.
[00:54:12] Thanks for listening.
[00:54:13] Until next time, we'll see you at the movies.
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