Ep. 644: Romulus Ail
Reel Nerds PodcastAugust 23, 202444:45434.14 KB

Ep. 644: Romulus Ail

They went looking for a new life. It found them when the Reel Nerds review Alien: Romulus.

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[00:01:15] Hey all you crazy Reel Nerds fans, you have tuned in to the greatest movie podcast of

[00:01:22] all time on all the internet for the ever after. I'm Ryan and I'm joined by my buddy Brad.

[00:01:32] What's up?

[00:01:33] Every week we see a new movie and we podcast our experience to the world. This week we saw

[00:01:40] Alien Romulus. Stay tuned where we'll recommend the film or not play the trailer and then

[00:01:45] spoil the movie and talk about it. We'll also talk about the movie news that's happening

[00:01:49] this week and things we've watched throughout the week. We are movie podcasts all the

[00:01:55] time. Brad, last week you mentioned that you'll get the results of the voting for

[00:02:01] your 15th anniversary. Is the anniversary vote 15th?

[00:02:07] It's 15th for me but I think it was actually the 20th, the 48th, the day before the 48th

[00:02:13] so I missed the first five.

[00:02:16] Did you get word on the voting for your new film Doomsday?

[00:02:21] I did. I'll shut out again.

[00:02:23] That is fucking bullshit!

[00:02:26] Yeah, I think it's the end for me. Two years in a row. I do not like my shit.

[00:02:34] So it might be time to hang it up.

[00:02:37] Yeah, I'll see that when I believe it. When you take a step back now, what do you think

[00:02:45] your high film in the 48 hour film project is?

[00:02:50] Of my stuff?

[00:02:52] Yeah.

[00:02:54] I think our best, obviously the one that did the best was Catastrophe, back in 2015.

[00:03:00] Yeah, I think that was the one we fired on All Cylinders 4.

[00:03:08] What one do you feel the most artistically accomplished in?

[00:03:13] Just because it's the most popular doesn't necessarily mean it's the best one you've done.

[00:03:17] What do you think is the best one you've done?

[00:03:21] Actually, it's probably a toss-up between that one and Cardi Bansaro.

[00:03:29] Yeah, obviously the last two years I've done it sort of by myself.

[00:03:36] So they've kind of been like, oh, I'm just doing this to get it done rather than doing it well.

[00:03:45] Sure.

[00:03:49] Yeah, Sulfur X was like, we put a lot of effort into really going all out on that one.

[00:03:55] And it's just, we like it but it didn't go to the best of it all.

[00:04:00] I just landed with a thud.

[00:04:03] After all these, I'm kind of seeing they really don't appreciate the extra mile.

[00:04:09] Like all the ones we've done, like the extra criteria for have just not hit at all.

[00:04:15] So I'm probably going to stop doing that if I ever do it again.

[00:04:19] So which ones normally hit then?

[00:04:21] What seems to be the ones the audience likes?

[00:04:25] The audience really likes our old fun ones like Thunderbolt and Cardi Bansaro Catastrophe if it bleeds.

[00:04:37] Yeah, that's about it.

[00:04:39] I think obviously I'm pretty sure.

[00:04:41] You think you're making them too niche now or do you need to make them more broad?

[00:04:46] I mean what the end goal for you is being accepted in the film community

[00:04:50] or being artistically satisfied when you're done?

[00:04:53] I think there's like a, I've done it so much that like I'm just kind of like wallpaper.

[00:04:59] There's a comedian who just did this album called Wallpaper

[00:05:01] and it's about like being a dad and like your place is just kind of like the background now.

[00:05:06] Like everything's about everyone else.

[00:05:08] So I feel like I'm kind of an afterthought.

[00:05:11] Like everything I do is expected.

[00:05:16] Like oh, Breznyan did another one.

[00:05:17] Like maybe we don't have to include him because he doesn't care that much about winning.

[00:05:24] So let's attract other people to the contest.

[00:05:29] There's also the thing that maybe mine got disqualified because of the whole sharing footage thing,

[00:05:35] which we assert is totally a thing you can do.

[00:05:39] But I was told at the screening that like, I don't know if that's a thing you can do by the producer.

[00:05:46] So yeah, that might have been a thing.

[00:05:49] Actually the other team I was working with, they actually did get Best Supporting Actress in their film.

[00:05:54] So it's sort of a win for my team as well.

[00:06:03] Like obviously her performance is actually in their movie.

[00:06:06] So but yeah, they don't get recognized a lot and so I'm glad they finally got some recognition.

[00:06:14] So sort of a win.

[00:06:16] So I mean you mentioned last week that maybe you go to a different city.

[00:06:20] Do you think if you went to a different city, your fortune would change?

[00:06:25] I mean obviously if you go to a different city, you'd have to bring people with you.

[00:06:29] You have to have a representative in that city to register for it.

[00:06:33] So really is that yeah, like the other team I've been working with, they do London ones,

[00:06:37] but they have like a person who lives in London who can register there.

[00:06:42] So that's how they do that.

[00:06:44] I don't have like a lot of people elsewhere to do things.

[00:06:46] So like I'll be helping out on their team when they do theirs,

[00:06:50] but a good example is the four points one I've done four times and only one of them hit.

[00:06:58] So I don't think going somewhere else really is that much of a difference.

[00:07:02] I think it's really just about like focusing on just like getting like just focused on the criteria I get

[00:07:08] and just making like a really high quality thing with that.

[00:07:11] And it's harder depending what those things are.

[00:07:15] It's harder some years than others.

[00:07:17] So like writing I think the last couple of years has really been an Achilles' heel

[00:07:21] of like I just don't know what to do with this.

[00:07:23] And I've been swallowed up in like outside stuff that like really just kind of makes me unable to like 10 years ago

[00:07:33] when we were doing this, I felt like I had a lot of extra time to like be creative.

[00:07:37] And that's really not a thing these days.

[00:07:42] So I also don't have like the traditional support creative support system that used to either

[00:07:48] like everyone's kind of gone off and done is not doing movie things anymore.

[00:07:51] So because we're all old.

[00:07:54] Yeah, well, I would also say that you know maybe try to find something that does push you artistically

[00:08:02] that maybe the structure of the project is what's actually holding you back.

[00:08:09] So I would try to find stuff that you find really interesting and make a film out of that

[00:08:14] because if it's something you want to watch then other people want to watch it too.

[00:08:18] Yes, the limit I'm finding right now is I kind of figured like I would have all the life experience

[00:08:22] at this point that would like make for like something I could build into like a cool movie or something

[00:08:27] because I want to have a feature film under my belt at some point like I never done it.

[00:08:33] I've done other people's films and some most of them haven't seen the light of day either

[00:08:40] but yeah, I don't have like a I sit around now and it's like I don't have like a

[00:08:44] I haven't lived a life that has like a cool story to turn into a movie like these other art tours do.

[00:08:50] Well, you know, but I would also argue that you have such a unique vision that you could take what you love

[00:08:57] and put your I don't want to say demented spin on it, but you're not expected been on stuff where I think you have a very quirky sense of humor.

[00:09:13] So I would look into something like that.

[00:09:15] You don't have to be true just, you know, make it you.

[00:09:18] Yeah, but like even like most of my life has been like just doing this and going to movies.

[00:09:24] So I'm like, how do I make like a movie about a loner guy who goes to see movies like interesting and like, I don't know.

[00:09:33] Like, yeah, I don't get it.

[00:09:35] I don't have to do.

[00:09:36] I mean, I got the Save the Esquire film coming out eventually.

[00:09:39] So there's that.

[00:09:40] Yeah, I just need to get some other scenes finally shot but it's tough to get people to do it.

[00:09:48] You could always ask just for scripts and see if something you read inspired you.

[00:09:51] Yeah, I've thought about that.

[00:09:53] You know, it's like have someone else but like in this town, like most people who write scripts also want to be the director and everything.

[00:10:00] And yeah, it's tough to find like a really interesting thing that is worth that amount of time and budget to it.

[00:10:12] Gotcha.

[00:10:13] Well, I wasn't trying to bum you out.

[00:10:15] I was just curious.

[00:10:17] No, it's like I've been thinking about it a lot.

[00:10:20] You know, so.

[00:10:22] Well, the good news is on this show all we do is watch movies.

[00:10:29] But you'll think it's something Brad, you're too creative not to.

[00:10:33] I get plenty of other things to work on for sure.

[00:10:36] This week, Brad, we saw Alien Romulus.

[00:10:39] Do you recommend another trip to space?

[00:10:42] You know what?

[00:10:43] I like, I've been kind of like sour on the last three ones.

[00:10:47] Like they're okay but like nothing special.

[00:10:50] This one is actually kind of good.

[00:10:54] Not great.

[00:10:55] Like it has all the tropes of just people doing dumb shit when they shouldn't have to.

[00:11:01] They're also in the future.

[00:11:02] They should be smarter.

[00:11:03] I don't know.

[00:11:05] And then there's some confusing parts where like how parts that connect to the lineage of the Alien movies.

[00:11:12] But overall, I think there's like some really cool shit in it.

[00:11:16] Yeah, I had a lot of fun watching this film.

[00:11:18] There's some pretty heinous moments, but I don't expect anything else from the director of Evil Dead remake.

[00:11:25] Yeah, I had a lot of fun watching it.

[00:11:27] My little boy really likes the character design of Alien or the Xenomorph.

[00:11:33] And I showed him.

[00:11:34] You like the penis-y looking aliens?

[00:11:36] Totally.

[00:11:37] But I showed him Aliens because that one's not really scary.

[00:11:40] It's more of an action movie and he liked it.

[00:11:42] And I told him I'd watch this one screen it for him and see if he can see it.

[00:11:47] And with the scene at the end, I'm not going to show him this film.

[00:11:51] Here's the trailer for Alien Romulus.

[00:13:49] Alien Romulus starts off as a couple of young people trying to get off of this mining planet.

[00:14:01] And they think they find a way because there is an abandoned ship drifting through space and into their orbit.

[00:14:09] So they have an idea to go up there, get the hypersleeping chambers and go to a place that has actually sunshine and which they believe is nicer.

[00:14:22] And what they don't know is that onboard that ship is specimens from the Xenomorphs.

[00:14:33] And when they go on there, they unleash the face huggers that gets inside of one of them and unleashes an alien Xenomorph that unleashes more of them.

[00:14:47] And yeah, then it's just finding a way to get off this ship.

[00:14:52] Yeah, no, I thought it was cool.

[00:14:54] It was a back-to-basics kind of approach.

[00:14:57] They definitely added the tension and the horror back to the film.

[00:15:04] Yeah.

[00:15:06] I like the weathered worlds.

[00:15:08] The last ones have been kind of shiny and clean.

[00:15:13] Yeah.

[00:15:14] But yeah, I didn't understand.

[00:15:16] So they're trapped on this mining colony, but they have a ship so they can leave, but it takes nine years to get anywhere.

[00:15:26] But yeah, it just feel like since they had a ship and they could just go into the atmosphere whenever they wanted, it didn't feel like that oppressive of a mining colony.

[00:15:38] They could have hooked up with another ship passing through the system at some point and still escaped this job that they have.

[00:15:48] Yeah, I think the point of it is though you have to go into that hypersleep or you don't have enough supplies on the ship to last that long.

[00:15:55] Because the planet is so far from everywhere.

[00:15:58] No, I get that.

[00:15:59] It just seems like anyone who doesn't want to work at that colony could escape.

[00:16:03] You could hitch a ride on someone who does have another sleep pod.

[00:16:08] Yeah, they clearly have access to communications and what's floating above the mining colony and all that and access to a ship that they could probably...

[00:16:18] This doesn't seem like their only resort to me.

[00:16:22] Yeah.

[00:16:22] But yeah.

[00:16:23] And then in the Remus and Romulus station, spoilers, how is Rook on it?

[00:16:36] Is it like another Rook?

[00:16:38] Yeah.

[00:16:39] So my guess is that Synthetix, some of them look the same.

[00:16:44] The duplicates, yeah.

[00:16:46] Yeah.

[00:16:48] Because I think it's a different one is what I gathered.

[00:16:51] It has to be like he blew up on the stromo.

[00:16:56] Yeah, but his name isn't Rook in the first one, is it?

[00:17:00] Ooh.

[00:17:01] I don't know.

[00:17:02] Now my brain's not working.

[00:17:04] I think it is.

[00:17:07] Actually, I think it's not, but I'll double check.

[00:17:13] But yeah, I mean they did a really good...

[00:17:15] Yeah, his name is Ash in the first one.

[00:17:17] Oh, you're right.

[00:17:19] Ian Holm, I mean they did a really good job with rebuilding him through CGI and puppets.

[00:17:26] I watched it behind the scenes thing where it's part animatronic, part CGI enhanced.

[00:17:32] Yeah, it was still a bit of an uncanny valley because it points at the two are blending together in weird ways.

[00:17:40] But I know some people put off by it but I was like well, it's a synthetic robot.

[00:17:44] It's not going to look perfect if it's all smashed up.

[00:17:47] Yeah, I read an interview with the director and he said that they got permission from all his surviving family members to do it.

[00:17:57] Not just the estate but he asked his kids and things like that.

[00:18:02] Speaking of synthetics, like the new one, what's his name?

[00:18:07] Andy.

[00:18:07] Andy, I thought it was a really interesting performance.

[00:18:10] Oh yeah, I thought it was great.

[00:18:12] Yeah.

[00:18:14] Because he starts off, it seems like he has some form of autism because he's damaged or however he was repaired.

[00:18:24] And how he got some of Rook's reprogrammed initiative from Wayland and he became this cold calculating dude.

[00:18:35] I was like oh fuck, that's a great performance.

[00:18:37] Yeah, that actor just incredible nuance.

[00:18:44] Really small detailed performance like switching between all those different characters.

[00:18:50] Yeah, because there's autistic Andy.

[00:18:53] He's a robot so it's just a program of thing.

[00:18:56] But yeah, then he's basically Rook at one point and then he's like Andy and Rook at some points.

[00:19:03] So yeah.

[00:19:04] Yeah, and it's a subtle thing he did with, you're right with his performance where you can see he was struggling with the directives given to him by Rook.

[00:19:13] And he's still trying to be Andy and yeah just a really compelling performance.

[00:19:19] Yeah.

[00:19:21] And you know the film shot really well.

[00:19:24] The gore is really cool in it.

[00:19:26] I like that the Xenomorphs were back to dudes in monster suits for the most part.

[00:19:30] Yeah.

[00:19:31] Yeah that part where the zero G acid like tunnel I guess was like oh that's a cool idea like that they have to float with this thing.

[00:19:41] Yeah, because there's also something too where you have a performer inside the suit because there's just one shot that I point to that when she held up the gun and it the Xenomorph stops just the way it behaved just looked cool because it didn't have the CGI.

[00:20:00] I don't know how to say it but just how they moved and how they breathed and stuff.

[00:20:06] I thought gave the film a lot more weight to it and I thought it was really cool.

[00:20:14] Yeah what else?

[00:20:20] Sorry go ahead.

[00:20:21] I was going to say some of the dumb parts were like Bjorn like you know he teased Andy just like really over the top.

[00:20:31] Yeah.

[00:20:32] That old trope of he's blaming one guy for like an entire race of like other synthetics like killing his mom or whatever.

[00:20:42] And I know the whole time he's going to say you do know they're different synthetics right?

[00:20:47] It's not the same one.

[00:20:48] Yeah and then like obviously later when he's trying to like save his girlfriend Navarro or something was it?

[00:20:58] Yeah and they just like do all the dumbest decisions.

[00:21:04] Yeah I mean the chest bursting scene was really cool and super violent and I mean that scene is pretty intense for my kid but the one that got me where I said nah I can't do is when she gave birth to the egg.

[00:21:17] Oh yeah.

[00:21:19] I was like oh yeah that's probably maybe when he's at home I don't know if that's a good, let's go to the Alamo buddy and check this out.

[00:21:29] Yeah that was cool too is like it goes back to Vermetius but yeah like that type of alien is yeah birth from that yeah.

[00:21:40] And it looked cool when I know it's a trope of having an exploding bomb without having one crashing into the rings around the planet but I thought it looked really cool.

[00:21:53] Like it had this ice kind of rock look to it so yeah it just looked cool.

[00:22:01] Also like the Vermetius alien kind of looked like a Dutch Doom from people from Roger Rabbit when he gets the run over by the steamroller.

[00:22:12] It's like a creepy look.

[00:22:14] Yeah the other dumb thing was like that one sequence where they have to like drop the temperature or raise the temperature in that one corridor and then walk through it with all the face huggers just like not sensing them.

[00:22:29] I was like why do the humans have to go?

[00:22:32] Like Andy could just go by himself and open it.

[00:22:35] Why do humans have to go through?

[00:22:37] I'm not sure.

[00:22:38] Well I think Andy was tricking them because he actually wanted them to get face hugged.

[00:22:43] Big hugs yeah.

[00:22:46] Like even then if I was that's just how dumb those two characters are they've been like yeah we'll go too.

[00:22:52] Like they've been like why can't you do it by yourself?

[00:22:56] Like why are you forcing us to go through?

[00:22:58] Not a convincing argument that we need to go.

[00:23:02] Yeah.

[00:23:03] Agreed.

[00:23:05] So yeah that sequence wasn't great.

[00:23:09] I liked how there's that one insert shot of her sneakers to like to those like fan service back to I guess there's some big deal about the sneakers that the characters have been wearing in all the movies.

[00:23:20] I was like that's it.

[00:23:21] At first I was like that's an interesting insert shot on those re-box.

[00:23:24] Then I looked it up and I was like oh apparently this is a thing in the alien universe.

[00:23:30] Yep and then you know Andy got to stay away from her bitch line.

[00:23:35] Yeah which was like I don't know.

[00:23:37] I didn't feel like he should have had that but.

[00:23:39] My theater cheered when it happened so I guess it worked.

[00:23:42] Yeah.

[00:23:43] I'm not a big cheer in movies you know.

[00:23:46] Unless it's like Thor's hammer or something.

[00:23:49] Yeah but did you cheer though?

[00:23:53] I don't remember ever cheering.

[00:23:54] I mean I love that people get that invested in it.

[00:23:57] I might do it like a fist bump but I don't know if I've ever audibly cheered.

[00:24:02] I don't know.

[00:24:03] Definitely not recently.

[00:24:04] I feel like I did during Endgame but yeah.

[00:24:08] Yeah.

[00:24:09] Of course Awakens maybe.

[00:24:13] I don't know.

[00:24:13] Yeah.

[00:24:14] It's not a normal thing for me for sure.

[00:24:19] Yeah.

[00:24:20] Yeah people should be alien Romulus.

[00:24:21] It's really fun.

[00:24:23] Yeah much better than expected.

[00:24:25] I mean yeah it was August so it's like oh they're definitely dumping this thing.

[00:24:29] Yeah nope.

[00:24:31] Nah it's some cool shit and yeah it's a lot more practical.

[00:24:36] Corinne actually sent us another showtime and I'm gonna play it for you now.

[00:24:40] Hey nerds Corinne here for another installment of Showtime where I usually talk about things I've been watching lately

[00:24:45] but this week could do something a little different.

[00:24:48] I think I sent in some stuff over the summer talking about the Acolyte.

[00:24:53] I don't know if it ever made it into the podcast episodes.

[00:24:56] I know the summer's been really crazy including for me so maybe I totally spaced on sending them.

[00:25:02] I don't know what's going on.

[00:25:03] Anyway long story short on the Acolyte I watched it.

[00:25:08] I mostly had fun with it.

[00:25:10] I enjoyed watching it week to week and talking about it with people as it was coming out and theorizing and all that.

[00:25:15] It made it like a fun water cooler moment again.

[00:25:19] I did have some problems with it.

[00:25:21] It took me a couple episodes to really get into it and I still don't think it's perfect.

[00:25:27] Some of the acting is a little weird and dialogue is not great in some episodes.

[00:25:35] And some of the sets if I don't know something about how it was filmed or how it was shot

[00:25:41] it felt a little too Star Trek discovery sometimes.

[00:25:45] I had fun.

[00:25:47] I liked some of the characters and concepts they were introduced

[00:25:50] and I actually really liked the fact that this was set before the prequels

[00:25:53] and I've never read any of the higher public comic books or novels or anything like that

[00:25:59] so this was an era of Star Wars I was totally unfamiliar with

[00:26:02] so it was kind of fun to learn about this.

[00:26:05] The Jedi to see them way before the prequel, well not way before.

[00:26:09] To see them well before the prequels and just kind of like

[00:26:14] oh this is the Jedi in their prime and all this kind of stuff.

[00:26:17] It was neat and I appreciated the fact that it wasn't another kind of Mandoverse project

[00:26:25] it's like that same slab of time between Return of the Jedi

[00:26:29] and the new order whatever.

[00:26:34] My brain's fried.

[00:26:36] But I just wanted to talk about the fact that at least on Twitter it's being reported

[00:26:42] that the Acolyte has been canceled after one season.

[00:26:46] Regarding the show itself there were some threads that I wanted to see picked up

[00:26:51] and I wanted to get some closure for what was going on with

[00:26:54] you know what's going on with these characters or what's going on with this plotline

[00:26:58] and there's all these things now that are just kind of dangling

[00:27:01] and it's like I want some closure for that.

[00:27:04] You know I would have waited a couple of years for it.

[00:27:07] That would have been fine but no apparently it's been canceled.

[00:27:12] But I just think that this is a problem with just a larger...

[00:27:18] It's just a larger problem.

[00:27:21] Star Wars, yeah I think this is more like a problem with Disney

[00:27:25] and just other streaming giants and all this crap right where

[00:27:30] you put out a product and it doesn't immediately get traction

[00:27:33] or even in the case of the Acolyte I think this is like the second

[00:27:36] biggest Star Wars show in terms of like viewership

[00:27:41] after I want to say Obi-Wan is Obi-Wan...

[00:27:44] I can't remember which one's number one but I know that Acolyte was number two

[00:27:47] and it's like even with this really strong viewership

[00:27:52] it gets canceled.

[00:27:53] I just don't get it.

[00:27:54] It's like what standards do we need to meet

[00:27:57] for you to give us what people want?

[00:28:01] Clearly people tuned in to watch it.

[00:28:04] So I mean yeah what standard does it have to live up to

[00:28:07] for it to get a second season and I don't know

[00:28:10] it's just so bizarre sometimes of just

[00:28:13] these streaming giants will make these shows

[00:28:15] and if it doesn't immediately get traction

[00:28:18] it won't get renewed and even if it does

[00:28:20] get traction

[00:28:22] and then they don't promote it or they promote it

[00:28:25] but it's not done very well.

[00:28:27] I know that there was another show on

[00:28:29] I want to say it was Amazon Prime recently called

[00:28:31] My Lady Jane.

[00:28:33] I did not watch it.

[00:28:34] I've just been talking to people online who have

[00:28:37] and you know they were like the show

[00:28:40] was not marketed very well

[00:28:42] and it took several weeks for people to kind of

[00:28:44] discover it and figure out what it really was

[00:28:47] because you know Amazon or whoever

[00:28:50] the production company was didn't market it

[00:28:52] and didn't market it properly

[00:28:54] and so yeah and then of course

[00:28:57] once people finally catch on to what it really is

[00:28:59] and have fun with it

[00:29:01] that's when they're like oh no it's been canceled

[00:29:03] and I don't know again didn't watch the show

[00:29:06] I don't know how it ended

[00:29:07] maybe you know it was kind of

[00:29:10] maybe it gave some closure I'm not sure

[00:29:12] but it is very frustrating

[00:29:15] to get invested in these shows

[00:29:18] and if it was like a one-off

[00:29:20] you know kind of a self-contained series

[00:29:23] and I think that's kind of what they tried to do

[00:29:26] with like the Obi-Wan, Kenobi miniseries

[00:29:29] like that's the thing is like is it a miniseries

[00:29:32] is it self-contained is it just going to be these

[00:29:35] you know four or six or eight or however many episodes

[00:29:38] and it's like this is it

[00:29:40] we're not going to tell any more stories

[00:29:42] this was self-contained

[00:29:44] or is it going to be like

[00:29:47] I don't know the Mandalorian or something

[00:29:48] or Ahsoka where it's very clear

[00:29:51] that they're trying to set up you know

[00:29:53] they want to have multiple seasons

[00:29:57] and for the Acolyte

[00:29:59] it definitely felt like it was in the latter category

[00:30:04] because yeah we had all these plot threads

[00:30:06] and character arcs that weren't fully resolved

[00:30:10] and it's like I don't want to say too much

[00:30:13] because I know Ryan hasn't seen it

[00:30:15] or hadn't seen it yet last I talked to him

[00:30:17] so I don't want to spoil anything

[00:30:19] but there definitely is something

[00:30:22] that we could get resolution for

[00:30:24] but apparently we're not now so

[00:30:27] it just speaks to this larger trend that's troubling

[00:30:30] it's like oh the show's not an immediate success cancel it

[00:30:33] or oh the show is a success

[00:30:36] well it costs too much to make cancel it

[00:30:38] it's just we can't win as the consumer

[00:30:41] we really cannot win

[00:30:44] they'll just turn out more bullshit

[00:30:46] and it's like who's watching it

[00:30:48] who?

[00:30:50] I think about Apple

[00:30:52] Apple makes all these prestigious great shows

[00:30:55] doesn't market them

[00:30:57] and Apple's one of the least watched streaming platforms

[00:31:00] so few if anybody knows about these shows

[00:31:03] even the people who watch Apple TV

[00:31:07] and other than Ted Lasso

[00:31:09] who knows what's on Apple TV

[00:31:12] might be the best show ever made

[00:31:14] but nobody knows

[00:31:17] I don't know it's just

[00:31:20] streaming is frustrating

[00:31:24] that's the truth

[00:31:27] you can't win

[00:31:29] because yeah

[00:31:31] I feel like

[00:31:33] other than like Ava Elementary and

[00:31:38] Ghosts

[00:31:38] there's not any shows that are coming out right now

[00:31:43] that I'm so invested in that I'm like

[00:31:45] oh I gotta watch the new episode

[00:31:47] I gotta watch the new episode

[00:31:48] I feel like it might get to the point where

[00:31:51] I would just wait until the show is completely over

[00:31:54] and then I check it out

[00:31:55] because I can't do this where it's like

[00:31:57] oh get invested in a show

[00:31:59] then it gets canceled prematurely

[00:32:01] or oh they didn't pick it up for a second season

[00:32:05] or whatever it is

[00:32:06] and I mean I know that that happened with

[00:32:08] network television too so it's not like

[00:32:10] this is exactly a new thing

[00:32:12] believe me I watched my fair share of

[00:32:14] shows that only had one season

[00:32:16] and that didn't get renewed for season 2

[00:32:19] but there's something about

[00:32:22] the model with Disney

[00:32:24] and these other streaming platforms where

[00:32:26] it's like you have

[00:32:28] the money

[00:32:29] you can make a second season if you want it

[00:32:32] there's interest there

[00:32:34] so either you need to plan

[00:32:36] this out from the beginning of how

[00:32:38] do you want to make this

[00:32:40] a show that's going to have multiple seasons

[00:32:43] or do you want to make this kind of a stand alone

[00:32:45] one off

[00:32:48] self-contained story

[00:32:49] like again Obi-Wan I think was probably the closest to that

[00:32:52] so

[00:32:54] yeah

[00:32:56] Disney has enough money

[00:32:57] they have enough interest and they have a captive audience

[00:33:00] they should know

[00:33:01] to figure this out ahead of time

[00:33:04] so if they had come to the Acolyte writers

[00:33:06] and they'd said you know what

[00:33:07] we just want this to be a one off

[00:33:09] so this is all going to have to be self-contained

[00:33:12] rather than

[00:33:14] telling them well

[00:33:15] you make a first season and we might pick you up

[00:33:18] for season 2

[00:33:20] again this is the network television model

[00:33:22] why are you still doing that in the streaming era

[00:33:25] you've got the money

[00:33:26] just make it

[00:33:29] anyway sorry I'm bitchin

[00:33:30] so

[00:33:32] that's where I'm at right now

[00:33:33] anyway I don't know

[00:33:35] what I'm going to be talking about next time I do one of these

[00:33:38] I've been rewatching the Clone Wars

[00:33:40] it's been fun

[00:33:42] nothing really new there

[00:33:43] I haven't seen a lot of new things lately

[00:33:46] I've just been busy with

[00:33:47] bullshit so

[00:33:50] yeah so hope you guys are doing well

[00:33:52] take care of yourselves and I'll talk to you guys next time

[00:33:54] with something I hope

[00:33:56] bye

[00:33:58] thanks Karan for always contributing

[00:34:01] slow week in movie news

[00:34:03] so I'm just going to skip over it and go right into

[00:34:06] what we've been watching

[00:34:08] so

[00:34:09] yeah this is the stuff we've been watching

[00:34:12] I'm sorry Brad you want to talk about Phil Donahue dying

[00:34:15] that's my bad

[00:34:17] dude come on

[00:34:20] you know I love that

[00:34:21] show I watch it I've seen every episode

[00:34:23] I was actually shocked that he's only like

[00:34:25] 82 or something

[00:34:26] is that old he is

[00:34:28] he always looks you know see how Steve Martin

[00:34:31] always looked old it must be the gray hair

[00:34:33] I don't know yeah he's got Steve Martin disease

[00:34:35] yeah

[00:34:37] what you watch this week Brad

[00:34:40] let's see

[00:34:46] actually

[00:34:46] so I was on a work trip

[00:34:48] and I managed to

[00:34:51] finally check out the

[00:34:53] Omaha Alamo Draft House

[00:34:55] oh nice

[00:34:56] I got to Omaha

[00:34:59] like in my travels like five minutes

[00:35:02] before their last showing of the evening

[00:35:04] like I've been I've driven by before and

[00:35:06] like inside that when they have

[00:35:08] like a rebuild

[00:35:10] of the Death Star inside it

[00:35:11] oh fuck yeah

[00:35:13] yeah so there's like the Emperor's Throne chair

[00:35:15] and if you press the button on the chair

[00:35:16] there's a Death Star hanging over the like the

[00:35:19] lobby and it has like

[00:35:21] the cannon it shoots like a green laser

[00:35:24] into the ceiling

[00:35:25] it does the sound and everything yeah so you sit in

[00:35:27] the Emperor's chair hit the button it like this

[00:35:30] you know countdown to

[00:35:32] five four

[00:35:33] and like yeah that's

[00:35:36] it's cool and then the lobby is like

[00:35:38] the

[00:35:39] like where the TIE Fighters park their TIE Fighters

[00:35:43] oh sweet

[00:35:44] so yeah there's a ticket counter

[00:35:46] and then they like merge in the lobby

[00:35:48] and everything so anyway yeah

[00:35:50] so I got to the last showing at that time

[00:35:52] on a week day was Deadpool and Wolverine

[00:35:54] at like seven

[00:35:55] that's fun though yeah so I was like I'll watch that for

[00:35:58] like a fourth time

[00:35:59] just to be here

[00:36:02] and yeah

[00:36:03] on the way back

[00:36:05] I was gonna go back and see something else there

[00:36:07] but then I was like I wonder if there's any

[00:36:09] Drive-ins in Omaha

[00:36:11] and I looked it up in the Quasar

[00:36:13] Drive-in which I'd seen in the documentary

[00:36:17] at

[00:36:17] the Drive-in I think

[00:36:18] is the name of it or coming attractions

[00:36:22] Drive-in stories

[00:36:24] and yeah I went there and it was

[00:36:25] packed

[00:36:27] really? Grand Chate was a Saturday so

[00:36:29] of course but like it's in the middle

[00:36:32] it's like way out it's like 15

[00:36:33] minutes away from Omaha and

[00:36:35] basically in like a bunch of corn fields

[00:36:37] no not in Nebraska

[00:36:40] and they have one

[00:36:41] screen

[00:36:43] and

[00:36:46] yeah like the

[00:36:47] main projection house has like

[00:36:49] an arcade in it and they have like all kinds of cool

[00:36:52] like Quasar Drive-in

[00:36:54] and Merchant stuff and a pretty robust

[00:36:56] snack bar

[00:36:57] and like the line for the snack bar was like

[00:37:00] out the building and like down the road

[00:37:03] it was

[00:37:04] nuts

[00:37:06] yeah and then they were showing

[00:37:08] a double feature of Twister and Twisters

[00:37:11] so I was like yeah cool

[00:37:12] I'll check that out

[00:37:13] I haven't seen the first Twister in a long time

[00:37:18] but that's the one I stayed for because I was like

[00:37:20] I want to get back to my like hotel room

[00:37:22] and just like veg

[00:37:24] and like yeah it was packed

[00:37:26] and

[00:37:28] at intermission like they have these lights

[00:37:31] on the actual screen itself that like

[00:37:33] blasted into the

[00:37:35] lot

[00:37:38] so like

[00:37:38] everything was like lit up

[00:37:41] which I haven't seen other theaters do

[00:37:42] so like you know you can get to the snack bar

[00:37:44] whatever and not get like run over and shit

[00:37:46] so yeah it's a

[00:37:49] pretty good drive-in

[00:37:50] and yeah they have a lot of richer stuff

[00:37:53] throughout the year

[00:37:54] more so than what we have

[00:37:56] so yeah definitely was a cool thing

[00:37:58] it's awesome

[00:37:59] yeah and yeah

[00:38:01] I guess that's why I watched this week

[00:38:03] uh yeah I didn't I watched

[00:38:06] my kid is

[00:38:08] playing this

[00:38:10] game that people have created

[00:38:12] on this game called Dreams

[00:38:13] where it's a user created content

[00:38:16] and this guy made a game called

[00:38:18] Slashers

[00:38:18] and in it they have the killer clowns from

[00:38:21] outer space so we watched that

[00:38:24] and um he loved

[00:38:25] it because it's not scary at all

[00:38:28] um and it's just

[00:38:30] you know silly

[00:38:31] uh so he really liked that

[00:38:33] um I also watched

[00:38:36] Adam Sandler's new movie

[00:38:38] on Netflix that I forgot to see when

[00:38:40] it came out in March called Space Man

[00:38:42] um

[00:38:43] which is an interesting film in it

[00:38:45] he plays a man on a solo mission

[00:38:48] uh in space and he has to be

[00:38:49] on this international space station for

[00:38:51] uh an extended period of time

[00:38:54] and while he's on there

[00:38:55] he meets this

[00:38:57] spider alien thing

[00:39:00] that has the voice of Paul Dano

[00:39:03] and

[00:39:03] he starts confessing

[00:39:05] into this

[00:39:08] uh to the spider that

[00:39:09] him and his wife are on the best terms

[00:39:11] and back on earth you learn that his wife's

[00:39:14] gonna leave him and she's

[00:39:16] six or seven months pregnant

[00:39:18] with his kid

[00:39:19] and uh he looks depressed so there's this

[00:39:22] constant back and forth with the wife

[00:39:24] and the space agency that you can't

[00:39:26] leave him now

[00:39:28] um it's definitely not a funny movie

[00:39:30] it's kind of a somber one

[00:39:32] um it is interesting to see I always

[00:39:34] I think Adam Sandler is an

[00:39:36] interesting actor and that he

[00:39:38] decided to do this film

[00:39:39] um because it's there's no real

[00:39:42] funny moments in it

[00:39:44] it's all about

[00:39:45] being isolated

[00:39:47] and what this isolation will do to you

[00:39:49] and the effect it has on your mental well-being

[00:39:52] um and not only

[00:39:54] isolated in space but the decisions he

[00:39:56] made on earth

[00:39:57] with his wife that made him

[00:39:59] feel more isolated

[00:40:01] uh it's a really interesting movie

[00:40:03] um it's not one of my favorite Adam Sandler movies

[00:40:06] but it's a film

[00:40:08] that as I'm watching that you appreciate

[00:40:10] because it's really well done

[00:40:12] um it's just

[00:40:14] kind of a bummer of a film

[00:40:15] that makes any sense at all

[00:40:18] um but yeah it's

[00:40:20] cool to see him kind of do stuff like

[00:40:22] that and I mean he has

[00:40:24] enough clout and the only thing I will

[00:40:26] say what's cool that he does movies on

[00:40:28] Netflix is he kind of can do what he wants

[00:40:31] um and

[00:40:32] so it makes it

[00:40:35] pretty fun

[00:40:36] in fact I think he has a comedy

[00:40:39] stand up

[00:40:39] coming out today if I think about it

[00:40:42] um

[00:40:43] so yeah so that's an interesting film if you're looking for something

[00:40:46] interesting it doesn't sound as crazy as the one you saw

[00:40:48] last week hundreds of evers

[00:40:50] um but

[00:40:51] if you're looking for just an interesting film to watch

[00:40:53] I would recommend it

[00:40:56] um and the last thing I watched

[00:40:57] is it came out on blu-ray and I hadn't

[00:41:00] seen it in probably 20 something years

[00:41:02] is Beverly Hills Ninja with Chris Farley

[00:41:04] um

[00:41:05] it's the last movie he made

[00:41:07] uh

[00:41:09] before he died he made this one and then almost

[00:41:11] heroes came out after he died

[00:41:13] um and the movie is really

[00:41:15] silly

[00:41:17] but the

[00:41:19] silliness makes it fun

[00:41:21] um

[00:41:22] it's not a great movie

[00:41:25] but it's a fun movie and it's just

[00:41:27] I don't know he was such a gifted

[00:41:29] physical comedian

[00:41:31] that he's able to pull off this stuff

[00:41:34] and

[00:41:35] uh make it believable

[00:41:38] and it I mean it has a young

[00:41:39] Chris Rock in it um

[00:41:41] that has Robin Shue who was

[00:41:43] Luke Heng in Mortal Kombat

[00:41:45] so it's

[00:41:47] it's a fun movie um

[00:41:50] and you can see where

[00:41:52] if they just stuck to

[00:41:53] him just being out of his place in Beverly Hills

[00:41:57] um

[00:41:57] it would have been funnier but they add a lot of

[00:41:59] uh slapstick stuff that doesn't

[00:42:01] make sense and um if they just

[00:42:03] would have stuck with the physicality of

[00:42:05] Farley and um

[00:42:08] him just being himself

[00:42:10] I think it would have gone over better

[00:42:11] but it's still cool that it's on Blu-ray

[00:42:12] and it actually has a commentary on it

[00:42:15] and it looks great on Blu-ray um

[00:42:17] who put it on?

[00:42:19] uh Tony

[00:42:21] yeah so Tony I mean there the thing

[00:42:23] that's a bummer with those kind of

[00:42:25] smaller movies from Sony because I have

[00:42:27] a couple of them

[00:42:29] is they're kind of expensive so it

[00:42:31] because I think they manufacture them on

[00:42:33] demand so

[00:42:34] I think it was $24.99

[00:42:37] but they do a really

[00:42:39] good job on the remasters for

[00:42:41] it um

[00:42:43] because it looks like

[00:42:45] a film still but

[00:42:46] it looks uh the colors are

[00:42:49] a lot more vibrant and stuff but it doesn't

[00:42:51] look like they totally digitally

[00:42:52] scrubbed it if that makes sense

[00:42:54] it doesn't look like Predator looked where they're all rubbery

[00:42:57] um from

[00:42:59] like 10-12 years ago

[00:43:02] um

[00:43:05] so yeah that's what I watched this week

[00:43:08] um

[00:43:08] next week we're seeing um

[00:43:11] Dee Dee which is an interesting

[00:43:13] looking film that I'm kind of excited to see

[00:43:15] it played a lot before the Alamo stuff because

[00:43:17] it's one of their recommend films

[00:43:19] yeah um

[00:43:21] so we'll be seeing that um

[00:43:23] I mean we really should probably do

[00:43:25] a film explosion because the next week

[00:43:27] sucks um

[00:43:29] yeah we've really been

[00:43:30] dropping the ball in that thing

[00:43:33] well you know life gets in the way

[00:43:35] it's been a busy busy summer

[00:43:37] I know it's like I can't

[00:43:39] caught up and when I do get caught up my uncle

[00:43:41] dies so

[00:43:42] um you know

[00:43:45] so um until next

[00:43:47] week we'll see

[00:43:49] you out the movie

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