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[00:01:18] the best movie podcast in the world and of all time.
[00:01:22] I'm your host Brad and with me is a co-host you have not heard in a while.
[00:01:27] Zack Eastman, Hello!
[00:01:30] Hey, yeah it's been a minute, it's been a minute buddy.
[00:01:34] I've been stuck in Golden Age Hollywood land so much
[00:01:37] I needed to come up for air to talk about some summer blockbusters, you know
[00:01:42] You saw a little smidge of color on the horizon. You're like what's that? I got to explore that. What is that?
[00:01:47] It's like it's like the end of nose for a two instead of like a beam of Sun
[00:01:51] It's just a rainbow that comes at me and I just go
[00:01:57] There's a three-dimensional world out there. Oh
[00:02:00] My god, you beat nobody is in mana mana tones and and nobody's nobody has shades of gray on their skin
[00:02:06] Oh my god, it's I've missed so much
[00:02:10] So yeah, Ryan's working, but I think he's going to call in his review
[00:02:15] I don't know people keep telling me they're gonna call in reviews and then they never do so who knows
[00:02:20] It'll probably just show up next week and talk about this movie
[00:02:23] I'm Ryan apes are cool. They are awesome. I like them. Wow brilliant insight Ryan. Thank you
[00:02:32] Yeah, so if you've never listened to real nurse before what we do is every week
[00:02:35] We go see a new movie and we podcast that experience the world. I think I just said at the beginning
[00:02:40] Can you tell I haven't hosted in a long time?
[00:02:43] Yeah, so this week we saw a kingdom of the planet of the apes
[00:02:46] We'll talk about that immediately and then the rest of the show will be us talking about movie news
[00:02:51] And what other things we've been watching throughout the week
[00:02:55] Yeah, so let's get into it
[00:02:58] Hey, Zach
[00:03:00] What did you think of Kingdom of the planet of the apes?
[00:03:04] I thought it was good very very good
[00:03:06] I'm a bit of fan of the reboot trilogy that they had put out between 2011 and 2017
[00:03:14] And so the fact that they're picking the ball back up under 20th century studio auspices
[00:03:19] I was I was worried that it may not you know be as
[00:03:23] Innovative innovative is what they were pulling off, but I was pleasantly surprised
[00:03:27] There I have a couple of issues, but nothing that would deter me from ever watching it again
[00:03:33] Ultimately as long as you've got talking apes and apes on horseback and apes
[00:03:39] Dealing with those damn dirty humans. I'm I'm on board, you know
[00:03:42] So yeah, I recommend people check it out
[00:03:44] But we'll get into it more in the plot spoilers because there's a lot to talk about
[00:03:51] Yeah, I think I've been famously vocal on this podcast about not being interested in these movies that much and
[00:03:59] I
[00:04:01] Yeah, I would I've basically seen so many movies in the theater lately that I have no choice
[00:04:07] But to see everything because there's like nothing left
[00:04:10] but I was blown away by the trailer the
[00:04:14] The CGI just is incredible and so I gave it a shot and I thought it was awesome
[00:04:21] Not the most complex movie but still just the CGI alone was like I can't believe
[00:04:30] We're at this level and there's other movies still racing to catch up, you know
[00:04:37] It's the the work on this is just phenomenal
[00:04:42] And yeah, the story is pretty pretty decent
[00:04:45] Compared to everything else that's out there right now. So I yeah, I was impressed
[00:04:50] Wonderful. Here's the trailer for Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
[00:04:53] They could fly they could speak across oceans
[00:05:27] Is
[00:05:33] I
[00:05:37] My teeth will earn high says a
[00:06:09] Pan-human live side by side impossible is that may seem
[00:06:14] Why do they hunt her?
[00:06:16] She's smarter than most
[00:06:19] the elders
[00:06:21] Did not tell us everything
[00:06:24] about this world
[00:06:27] I
[00:06:33] Apes hunt humans
[00:06:37] It's wrong together strong
[00:07:16] So yeah Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
[00:07:18] introduces us to a new hero Noah and
[00:07:21] His other eight buddies who are just living a peaceful life
[00:07:26] in the Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes until things go wrong
[00:07:32] Another tribe wanders in
[00:07:34] and
[00:07:37] Destroys their village
[00:07:39] heals the Noah's some Noah's dad and then rides off with
[00:07:44] Slaves for their own Kingdom and then Noah vows revenge and so he goes on this quest to
[00:07:52] find this other village and rescue his family and
[00:07:56] He grows and learns along the way
[00:07:59] Yeah, the the the key plot point that that motivates the other that
[00:08:07] that
[00:08:09] Motivates
[00:08:10] Proxima Caesar's drive is that they're actually searching for a human who has
[00:08:17] the
[00:08:18] knowledge and wherewithal of a
[00:08:22] Human bunker basically a government bunker
[00:08:25] And this is the character of Nova or as she's actually named May
[00:08:31] I actually love that joke from
[00:08:34] Raqqa, which is just like I call her Nova. We call all of them Nova
[00:08:38] Yeah
[00:08:43] So I guess this takes place I'm assuming I haven't seen either once after dawn but before the
[00:08:48] Charlton-Heston
[00:08:49] Planet of the Apes it takes place after war for the Planet of the Apes the final one Don was the middle entry
[00:08:56] Okay, dark
[00:08:57] It takes generation takes place generations after you know, it's funny. You're bringing up the original
[00:09:04] 1968 version
[00:09:07] One I've been a fan of the Planet of the Apes franchise since childhood
[00:09:12] Like I mean Tim Burton's remake withstanding I guess
[00:09:16] And so one of the things that I liked about the reboot trilogy was that they weren't necessarily trying to dovetail into
[00:09:24] this
[00:09:26] Into the original's arena per se and do a full-on remake, but there's some setup for what could happen
[00:09:33] by the very end of this and
[00:09:36] What what it says at the top is that it's many generations afterward the theory that I've been reading online is that it's about 300 years after
[00:09:46] The war for the Planet of the Apes which would explain how there's a whole
[00:09:52] massive tribe of humans that
[00:09:54] Has gone feral
[00:09:56] There's a little bit of inconsistency because I mean, I guess I would want to know as an ape fan
[00:10:02] How come this group of humans has gone feral and or devolved
[00:10:07] Whereas may and William H Macy's character are still intelligent
[00:10:13] Like what what are the what's the division of tribes and the only thing that?
[00:10:17] Stops me from going into plough hole territory or or truly toxic fanboy territory
[00:10:22] I guess is that just like in beneath the Planet of the Apes
[00:10:27] There's a whole mutant society in that movie that's been hanging out in the ruins of old New York
[00:10:33] So there's there's the the precedent for some tribes of humans still existing out there with intelligence
[00:10:41] and
[00:10:42] This the way this plot breaks down
[00:10:45] If I had one complaint about the story, I feel like it's that may is a little bit underdeveloped as a character
[00:10:52] I love the concept of the Nova character not being a mute
[00:10:58] Feral beast and that she's capable and has agency. I just feel like her motivation is
[00:11:05] a little underdeveloped and I don't know if that's because they're setting up a
[00:11:11] Her to return in the sequel
[00:11:14] But it just felt like a little bit. She's very much there
[00:11:19] To explain why we need to go into this human bunker and why we need to stop Proxima Caesar who is this bonobo ape?
[00:11:26] that leads the
[00:11:29] Call of the clan that kidnapped Noah's tribe
[00:11:33] and so I
[00:11:36] I feel like there's
[00:11:38] Some stuff that I hope gets fleshed out in another film
[00:11:42] But if the goal is just to create its own contained film they do succeed
[00:11:46] It just has a little ebbs and flows
[00:11:48] I will say though. There's something that I loved about this as it pertains to
[00:11:53] The original planet of the apes is number one. They do set up the idea for Wayne, Indiana, which is where
[00:12:01] Trouton Heston's Taylor character is from in the original film
[00:12:05] So it's possible that the Taylor character does exist
[00:12:09] He may does
[00:12:11] Excuse me. He may have just returned on a different side of the globe
[00:12:17] to
[00:12:19] To be in the film, I don't know we'll see
[00:12:22] But also the sound design in this film
[00:12:25] Has so many homages to the original planet of the apes whether it's the score itself when they do the human hunt in the
[00:12:34] In the river instead of just in a cornfield
[00:12:37] They use that same music cue and then they use this not cornfield
[00:12:42] But a wheat field of sorts to do some of the same tricks that they do in the original human hunt in Planet of the apes from
[00:12:49] 1968 but also when they go into the bunker
[00:12:53] When the I think it's Noah and his pals go into like a nursery cares unit for whatever this government facility was
[00:13:01] They pull up a doll and the doll has the exact same
[00:13:06] Mama sound that was used in the original Planet of the apes. I got like a I got a little kick out of that. It was really funny
[00:13:14] But yeah, in terms of the visual effects work too
[00:13:18] I want to say yeah, it's a it's a mean feat
[00:13:22] This looks even better than dawn of the Planet of the apes which I rewatched to gear up for
[00:13:28] Going to this
[00:13:29] The the effects work has come so far with this original concept of these apes are motion capture now
[00:13:35] It's no longer, you know, John Chambers is makeup. I was stunned
[00:13:40] Yeah, I've only seen Tim Burton's apes and then
[00:13:45] Rise and then this one so I was the whole lore and everything all I know about
[00:13:50] The original planet apes is just their parodies. So I kind of got the feeling that this is all like a setup to bring
[00:13:57] Into it, huh? I was I didn't mean to interrupt
[00:14:02] But I was gonna say I'd wonder how much you'd like the original Planet of the apes because like it's sort of like
[00:14:06] So I like green for some people where like, okay, I already know the twist
[00:14:10] I already know the pop culture references that have been that have been extended off of it
[00:14:15] Like you can almost like have a fun laugh your butt off time with the original Planet of the apes
[00:14:20] If that was how you so choose to first experience it
[00:14:23] The makeup was innovative for its era, but it definitely aged
[00:14:28] Obviously compared to what Tim Burton's Rick Baker makeup had
[00:14:32] But yeah, no it the sprawling detail of this this most recent entry is immaculate
[00:14:40] It's probably the best visual effects work. I've seen all year period
[00:14:44] Yeah, because in addition just to like the apes themselves like they have these sprawling cityscapes
[00:14:50] There's like, yeah, there's no way they film this. This is all just a completely computer-generated vista
[00:14:57] Agreed there's also the the ideas of
[00:15:01] They're doing these digital matte paintings, especially near the beach near Proxima Caesar's
[00:15:08] Kingdom and it just felt it felt organic
[00:15:12] It didn't feel like a CG backdrop
[00:15:16] In in the immediacy and I I can see that they're using some kind of live-action blended set
[00:15:23] To to give it that scale and scope which is what a matte painting should do
[00:15:27] and
[00:15:29] I the performances
[00:15:32] in this are fascinating because I don't know if you
[00:15:38] Had followed that reboot trilogy from rise up to war
[00:15:42] But the first thing that I had to get used to was the fact that these apes can now speak a lot more
[00:15:48] Frequently than in the original reboot trilogy where there was a combo of light speech
[00:15:53] But a lot of sign language because that was the way they got around the idea of apes talking early on
[00:15:59] I
[00:16:00] Was once I settled into it. I really enjoyed watching them perform it with this
[00:16:06] Sort of there, but not quite their intelligent speech
[00:16:10] that would become the
[00:16:12] The the staple for the original series starting in 1968, which is these apes are speaking just as humans do
[00:16:20] and like the the villain Proxima Caesar is such an amazing performance that
[00:16:27] Kevin Durand makes it's he's truly menacing. He's truly terrifying
[00:16:33] He's and I feel like this film does manage to
[00:16:37] Do something that the reboot trilogy wasn't always adept at
[00:16:42] I think it does do this
[00:16:45] But it has it has its ups and downs with it
[00:16:47] Is I do think that there was an attempt to kind of speak to a more modern issue
[00:16:52] Which is what the apes movies were good at doing if done correctly
[00:16:56] There's there's a there's a timeliness to the theme to its themes of you know, like
[00:17:02] Following following a corrupt leader of this kind of sort or you know blindly following in worship of this one
[00:17:10] One ape or distorting the teachings of the original Caesar, which was Andy circuses character
[00:17:18] There's a lot of it. That's the most obvious thing was that like hey, you know
[00:17:21] They've grown up with that based on this legend and there's been no one around to prove so people have been twisting
[00:17:28] His teachings for their own benefit
[00:17:31] And I feel like it
[00:17:33] That that's one of the reasons why it got a lot more points from me than it might have if it just been a kind of generic story is that it is
[00:17:42] It is a tempting without a full-on shove in your face
[00:17:47] Motif it is attempting to speak to the modern world and I think that that's what the apes movies
[00:17:53] Are best at if done correctly
[00:17:55] The original reboot trilogy did do those things
[00:17:58] But I think it was also trying to develop its world
[00:18:01] so I think it it always kind of had a little bit of a
[00:18:05] Balancing act to play with now that the apes can talk now that the humans are either feral or hidden underground in bunkers as rebels
[00:18:13] Now they can kind of get more into the media stuff
[00:18:17] That that would become the trademark of this franchise. So it's like hey even the apes are screwing up their history just like humans
[00:18:25] We're not so different after all
[00:18:28] Yeah, and and I do think that there's a
[00:18:32] I'm very intrigued by the way they ended it
[00:18:35] but I love the scene where
[00:18:37] May and Noah are talking at his kingdom after or at his
[00:18:44] Home after they've rebuilt started rebuilding and stuff and it talks about the trust issue
[00:18:50] Can can apes trust humans can humans trust apes and there's that brief shot where she has a gun right behind her
[00:18:57] It doesn't it's not they don't sugarcoat this relationship or this friendship or alliance
[00:19:04] With going like everything's okay. You're a good human. You're a good ape
[00:19:08] They they keep the the struggle in tow
[00:19:11] So I would imagine that that opens up the sequel for something incredibly interesting about their dynamic as an alliance
[00:19:20] also, I
[00:19:23] think we really need to get I'm glad we got some more gorilla action and
[00:19:27] this entry because the first three that
[00:19:32] Came out under Rupert Wyatt and then Matt Reeves
[00:19:35] They weren't really leaning into the gorilla as as the military division and in this film. We definitely got
[00:19:43] That that's Silva character the lowland gorilla who fights with Noah at the end in the complex
[00:19:50] It was nice to finally get a gorilla into the mix because it's either been like regular chimpanzees or orangutans
[00:19:57] That have been the centralized focus and now we've got a little bit of a nice mix up
[00:20:04] Yeah, it was a great film I hope people check it out. It's it's fantastic
[00:20:08] It seems to be doing well at the box office. So I think that means we're getting some more of these eight movies
[00:20:13] I think so. Yeah, and I will say with the visual effects thing
[00:20:20] The the Weta team and any additional team that was on this like yeah, I'm glad that this movie took
[00:20:27] I'm glad these movies take a while to come out because it means that the visual effects are gonna be that much richer
[00:20:32] Yeah, the idea of cranking them out for one a year
[00:20:36] I would not want that at all like they they they needed the time to get this detail right
[00:20:41] plus to you know like
[00:20:43] In some ways they've been working, you know, they've been building on the same model for over a decade
[00:20:48] You know, so it's like they have a leg up compared to other movies that kind of start out from scratch
[00:20:54] Yeah
[00:20:56] You're how the plan of the apes franchise
[00:20:59] correct course corrected when it started its reboot because the original series had this innovative
[00:21:07] chimpanzee and ape makeup that John Chambers developed where the actors could act through the mouthing and the
[00:21:15] prosthetic
[00:21:16] But as time went on in that original series the budgets kept getting cut
[00:21:21] So the so the makeup budget started declining as well
[00:21:24] So now the the studio the studio at the forefront of it and the production team have been fully aware that okay
[00:21:31] We're gonna try this mocap thing. It works. Okay. Now we need to keep making it good
[00:21:35] We need to keep upping the ante each and every time because if we don't we're gonna lose the trust of the audience
[00:21:41] so I think it's been an intelligent decision by all creative forces in in play to just keep
[00:21:49] Escalating this and to not you know settle on we did it we did it this way. Let's just do it again
[00:21:54] You know I'm saying yeah
[00:21:56] Plus I think I think too like they're able to make more of these movies because they're like, okay
[00:22:00] We were like laid down the basic architecture
[00:22:02] Like all we have to do in the next one is just like add a little bit more so that like it looks that much better
[00:22:08] So it's almost like a good rate of return on like hey go these other movies have already done the heavy lifting
[00:22:15] We just have to like you know, it's not like we have to like pour new latex and like
[00:22:20] Fit new people. It's just like that model is already done tweak a little more add a little more detail
[00:22:26] Like it just gets better and better
[00:22:29] Just try different techniques of rendering out the final result
[00:22:32] You know the the the beauty of watching this film and how far they've come is when you see shots of them
[00:22:39] Extending their arms out the arm the arm hair looks like as if though well
[00:22:43] They must have worn some kind of makeup apparatus on their arms along with the the mo cap soup
[00:22:50] But then you look at the production photos and it's like no they didn't like they clearly were rendering all of this in the computer
[00:22:56] It looks it just has gotten that good to where they that you you are being
[00:23:02] Properly manipulated into believing these are actual apes
[00:23:05] I think that I I don't think I found a
[00:23:09] single issue in
[00:23:11] The way they talk either or the facial apparatus either. I think it just all blends so beautifully. I
[00:23:17] Guess that just leaves
[00:23:20] Ryan's review of Kingdom of the Planet the apes. So
[00:23:23] Let's roll that clip
[00:23:25] Hello real nerds listeners
[00:23:27] Just when you thought I wasn't gonna be on this episode and
[00:23:32] Brad and Zach hijacked it. No, you can never get rid of me. I will always be there
[00:23:39] Even when they don't want me there. Oh, yeah, you think that I didn't see
[00:23:45] Kingdom of the Planet of the apes. Oh, I saw it
[00:23:49] They just wanted to make sure that they recorded their version of it without me around because
[00:23:54] They think of me as a threat. I'm like the Caesar of
[00:23:58] Planet of the apes to those two guys
[00:24:01] Because they want to get their opinions in and my opinions are so great
[00:24:05] That they just needed to have a chance without me overshadowing everything they do
[00:24:11] I'm sorry. It's a fact, but that's how it is when you're the best everybody comes after you
[00:24:17] It's like when you win a championship at a sporting
[00:24:21] event
[00:24:22] Everybody is chasing the champion and
[00:24:25] The underdogs are scrappy and they fight but at the end of the day
[00:24:29] The champion is always gonna win and he's always gonna make the podcast more entertaining more intelligent and more
[00:24:37] everything
[00:24:39] but
[00:24:41] Let's shift gears. Let's talk about Kingdom of the Planet of the apes. I
[00:24:46] Will say that this movie is pretty great
[00:24:49] From the special effects to the acting
[00:24:53] Everything in this movie works very well
[00:24:56] What I really appreciated about this film is
[00:25:01] How it built on the world of the previous trilogy of the planet of the apes
[00:25:08] And ran with it. It's the natural evolution quote unquote of the ape society
[00:25:15] and how no matter how smart or
[00:25:19] How more advanced we think we are not only as a species
[00:25:25] but
[00:25:27] The jealousy the bigotry will always rear its ugly head and it's interesting to see that from a new quote-unquote
[00:25:35] civilization with the apes there is factions of the apes that are mean and
[00:25:42] Just want to conquer all and then you have Noah who is the leader not even really the leader
[00:25:49] I'm sorry. It's more of the the vessel that you're following the story through and
[00:25:54] His do you call them tribes? What is a group of apes? I don't know what it's called
[00:26:00] but anyway his people
[00:26:03] Basically live a peaceful life. They're fishermen they
[00:26:08] Train birds or birds of prey hawks and eagles
[00:26:13] To basically be scouts for them, but when the world is up turned upside down by
[00:26:17] a war and faction
[00:26:19] of apes
[00:26:22] Noah's journey to go save his people takes an unexpected turn, you know when the human element shows up
[00:26:28] And it's interesting to see
[00:26:31] how the apes treat the humans
[00:26:35] As unintelligent people
[00:26:40] but they're shocked to learn that
[00:26:44] People not only can still communicate and talk
[00:26:47] but are capable of great things
[00:26:50] and
[00:26:52] Underneath all of that is also people's ability to destroy and
[00:26:59] Hurt not only people
[00:27:04] But life itself and it comes to you know when it comes to ahead
[00:27:09] at the
[00:27:11] Big ape village where they're trying to get into the vault
[00:27:15] It's a really fascinating study of character dynamic
[00:27:20] of
[00:27:22] You know you have the leader of the apes proximas who
[00:27:27] Kevin Durant is great in this film by the way
[00:27:29] But he just wants to get in that vault because he wants the weapons of war
[00:27:34] and
[00:27:36] When Noah learns about what's in there and teams up with the humans
[00:27:42] It's not necessarily for
[00:27:45] In his eyes, he thinks he's helping but the
[00:27:48] The whole breakdown of the mistrust between each other and
[00:27:57] Noah and his friends learning that yes
[00:28:00] apes used to be confined in cages and he's concerned about that so he's conflicted about
[00:28:06] Should I help the humans
[00:28:09] to stop
[00:28:11] The uprising of a leader of an ape who thinks he's a god a deity in the vein of Caesar who's misguided
[00:28:18] and
[00:28:19] He doesn't he he decides he's going to help the humans and then even towards the end of the film with the mistrust is is pretty
[00:28:29] It's pretty nerve-wracking and it speaks volumes to
[00:28:32] The screenplay that it doesn't give people an easy out. It doesn't really paint
[00:28:38] A villain or a hero in this whole picture even though you want to say that proximas is a villain and
[00:28:44] And eventually the humans become a villain
[00:28:47] But do they really I mean they're each trying to reach a goal
[00:28:52] Of advancing each other's either tribe or species or whatever and it's played beautifully in the film and
[00:29:00] you know the last meeting between
[00:29:03] Noah and nova
[00:29:06] they
[00:29:08] Is just well done because they don't trust each other
[00:29:11] But they let it go and where the story takes us is going to be really fascinating
[00:29:16] And I hope they make another one with these characters and we get to explore this world a little more because
[00:29:22] It's obviously setting up a conflict between apes and the remaining humans as the humans are able to now communicate with each other towards the end
[00:29:30] So yeah, I love this movie. I thought the special effects were great
[00:29:34] The film was shot really well
[00:29:36] The performances are great
[00:29:39] So it was just cool to see and
[00:29:42] Uh when I saw the trailer for this film, it was one of the movie the movies
[00:29:45] I wanted to see the most in the summer and it did not disappoint
[00:29:49] So that's what I have to say about planet of the apes
[00:29:52] And the only other thing I'll say is I'll be back live next week
[00:29:57] So you guys better be ready
[00:29:59] Because i'm bringing my a game. You got me my a game
[00:30:04] And we haven't heard he yet. So I don't know whether ryan liked it or not, but
[00:30:08] I did I heard him telepathically and i'm here to report that that it was very
[00:30:14] Unfair to him to say that they should just have used charlton heston as a cgi
[00:30:20] Model throughout the entire film. I think that the bad choice ryan
[00:30:24] I don't know why you want charlton heston in this movie. It's it's perfectly fine without him
[00:30:29] He also said that the portrayal of the like police apes was very unfair
[00:30:34] Yes, yes, that's I I I think ryan's got this film a little twisted
[00:30:40] Cool so yeah that takes us into uh movie news
[00:30:46] It's real news
[00:30:52] Zach do you have any news
[00:30:54] Let me pull some up because I forgot that I probably would be responsible for this
[00:30:59] While you're doing that, I'll just remind people that will be at fan expo denver
[00:31:04] This year july 4 through the 7th. We have an awesome pizza themed booth
[00:31:09] plan so stop on by
[00:31:11] Check us out record with us and um also it's almost uh pretty much the start of summer and drive-ins
[00:31:20] Are starting to come back. So uh check out the 88 drive-in up in um
[00:31:27] The orton, commerce city, commerce city, sorry
[00:31:32] They're doing uh if and ghostbusters this weekend
[00:31:35] um hopefully this episode drops on time and uh, yeah the holiday twin has a couple double features for their two screens that are pretty great
[00:31:45] and um
[00:31:46] I'll just remind people that the esquire is probably no longer come july so
[00:31:52] Please check out, uh
[00:31:54] What they have left and enjoy that theater while you can
[00:31:57] Um this weekend and they're gonna show Jurassic park
[00:32:00] um and then next weekend they've got
[00:32:03] um the room
[00:32:05] and uh
[00:32:07] I think the the remaining
[00:32:09] late nights are gonna be
[00:32:12] The cook the thief the lover and something. I don't remember the full title. It's unwieldy
[00:32:17] And bottle rocket and repo man so
[00:32:20] Okay
[00:32:21] Yeah, and there's at least one more rocky horror which I believe I'll finally check out there
[00:32:27] Um, but yeah the room is not the last friday because of the way the calendar lines up. It's actually the second last friday
[00:32:34] So the 24th so if you want to check that out, um
[00:32:38] Yeah, which now i'm curious like what they're gonna do for that saturday because they don't have a
[00:32:43] I guess probably nothing but yeah
[00:32:46] And then of course they'll have just regularly. They're actually gonna open furiosa
[00:32:50] Amidst the uh
[00:32:51] remaining schedule so
[00:32:54] Um, yeah, and also watch out because i'm trying to get a real nerd's
[00:32:59] Farewell screening of something happening
[00:33:00] So be on the lookout for that because I feel like I'm only gonna find out
[00:33:04] A couple days before we actually get to screen it
[00:33:07] um, so yeah
[00:33:09] Come hang out for that screening. Zach would you find?
[00:33:13] All right, I found a couple of items. First of all, we must acknowledge that we lost the uh,
[00:33:18] Um, the the movie uh the b-movie titan roger korman passed away at the age of 98
[00:33:24] um, uh so close
[00:33:26] probably
[00:33:28] Misted by that much
[00:33:30] Yes, no, uh roger korman. Um, I had passed away on may 9th
[00:33:35] Uh as the family said in a statement his films were revolutionary and iconoclastic and captured the spirit of an age
[00:33:42] When asked how he would like to be remembered. He said I was a filmmaker just that
[00:33:46] Um, and rightfully so, um, he was a filmmaker. I think one of the things that korman gets
[00:33:53] Uh
[00:33:53] Louded for by a lot of people who aren't into b-movies is that well, he's the guy who gave
[00:33:59] frances for coppola and ron howard and uh
[00:34:03] martin scorsese and all those guys a chance at their first movie
[00:34:07] But the man was a great blast bastion for uh, a lot of horror titans from the golden age of hollywood
[00:34:14] There's these po movies that he was cranking out for
[00:34:18] Uh, aip
[00:34:19] Um, not the least of which the raven, which is one of my favorites
[00:34:23] Where you have lore peter lory boris carloff basal wrathbone all getting these chances to
[00:34:28] Uh to have a second wind or a second coming more boris carloff specifically to
[00:34:34] Still like and in fact, uh one of boris carloff still had a
[00:34:39] Still had a film owed to korman on his contract
[00:34:41] So he tapped korman tapped peter by donovitch to write a movie that ended up becoming targets, which
[00:34:48] stars carloff as an aging horror star whose fate kind of intersects with this uh, this sniper killer
[00:34:55] Uh at a drive-in so it's he he wove a lot of his own tales without
[00:35:02] Uh, that would be enough for a legacy in and of itself. Uh his new world pictures
[00:35:08] Facilities put out things like suburb party massacre and rock and roll high school and piranha
[00:35:13] Um the man the man was prolific in so many ways and in a lot of ways if his work hadn't existed
[00:35:20] You wouldn't have a room for something like shark nato to succeed
[00:35:24] On the sci-fi vent where yeah the budget's low
[00:35:27] But the concepts goofy and wacky enough to just have fun with it
[00:35:32] His works have been remade in various different ways. I think the most successful of them has probably been uh death race
[00:35:39] With the remake with jason statham
[00:35:42] Having been released in 2008, but the original death race gave an early chance for silvestre still owned to shine
[00:35:49] Uh, it has a great performance by david caradine in it
[00:35:52] This is a lot that the man
[00:35:54] Gave to the filmmaking world. Um, and by the way, rad brad this will this will take away your fancy bone fun fact
[00:36:02] um
[00:36:03] In in the movie looney tunes back in action directed by joe daunte
[00:36:07] Yeah, the it is clearly specified that the person directing a batman movie on the lot of warner brothers when daffy is trying to avoid bernard frasier
[00:36:15] The director of batman uh at this time around is roger korman
[00:36:19] So roger korman was also a director of a batman movie technically
[00:36:24] That fictional place. Yes fictional place
[00:36:27] Uh, but he clearly had a batmobile on his set and a batman daffy duck just stole the batmobile to go to the duck cave
[00:36:35] um, but he's also in silence of the lambs. Um, he's the uh, uh one of the
[00:36:41] fbi uh, what fbi uh heads uh heads of
[00:36:46] Of personnel or something
[00:36:49] Uh, every everybody who worked with korman tended to stick him in one of their movies at some point. Um, so it's he'll be very very missed
[00:36:58] Hell of a man. I got to meet him at comic con in 2010
[00:37:01] When he was signing stuff for shout factory back then and he's super sweet could not have been nicer
[00:37:07] um
[00:37:08] Also, I wanted to bring up. I did not I thought this was a joke
[00:37:12] But slash film is reporting on it too. There's a new lord of the rings movie being announced called the hunt for golem
[00:37:20] yep
[00:37:22] I don't know how I feel about it except for the fact that
[00:37:27] Jackson and circus are returning
[00:37:31] uh
[00:37:33] Peter Jackson will be producing it and circus will be returning to star in it
[00:37:38] Uh, and directed
[00:37:41] Yeah, oh, oh he is directing it. Okay
[00:37:43] So the the quote by jackson is we really want to explore golem's backstory and delve into those parts of his journey
[00:37:51] We didn't have time to cover in the earlier films
[00:37:53] It's too soon to know who will cross his path, but if I said to stay we will take our lead from professor tolking
[00:38:00] Um, i'm not opposed to this. I guess I just was kind of shocked that
[00:38:05] Jackson would return and i'm sort of shocked that circus was gonna return
[00:38:10] But I guess if he's getting the chance to direct it then that's the motivation
[00:38:16] um, and I i'm a fan of what circus did as a director for venom let there be carnage. So
[00:38:23] I'm on board with him as a director. Um, I guess i'm just
[00:38:27] I'm wondering uh, if
[00:38:30] I'm wondering how it's gonna feel
[00:38:32] Because the only other lord for the rings product we've been getting is rings of power which I like but it's
[00:38:39] definitively set itself as something that's technically not related to jackson's world
[00:38:44] Um, and i'm excited for war of the rojo rim. But the reason i'm excited for is that it's animated
[00:38:50] Um, if it had been a live action film, I don't know if I would have been as enthusiastic about it
[00:38:54] Um, I don't know brad you're not I don't you're not strictly a fan of the lord the rings franchise
[00:38:59] So I don't know if you have any stake in this or not
[00:39:02] Yeah, I don't know. It's uh, I don't know it's I feel like we got his backstory in the original movies
[00:39:08] Um, so I don't know what they expect to add to it
[00:39:12] I know
[00:39:13] so
[00:39:14] yeah
[00:39:15] The only thing I think of is like
[00:39:17] It creates a great opportunity to update that model
[00:39:21] And then maybe place it in a future 4k box set of the original movies
[00:39:26] Uh, no that would be really cool. That would be very cool
[00:39:30] Yeah, but yeah, I don't I don't know like it's not the character that I would choose to play with
[00:39:37] Yeah, um, I I would if anything I would want to try to dig back into other other side characters
[00:39:43] Like war of the rojo rim is a great idea because it's dealing with the kingdom of rohan
[00:39:49] I'd almost want to have some adventures with strider before he encounters frodo and the and the hobbits
[00:39:56] Not saying you put you dh of ego mortensen
[00:40:00] You can maybe get an actor that kind of approximates him and can
[00:40:04] Conceivably fit within that continuity
[00:40:07] Like those are ideas that I would like
[00:40:09] It's one of the reasons why I liked in the hobbit that they put legolas in there
[00:40:13] Was that it was interesting to kind of watch an idea of what legolas was before he got to the fellowship
[00:40:20] It's not in keeping with
[00:40:22] Tolkien's canon by any means, but it was just interesting from the movie standpoint to see that take effect. So
[00:40:28] Yeah, it's also gonna be a bummer of a story because it's you know, we obviously know it doesn't end well, but
[00:40:34] um, you're like in detail, you're just going to watch this like
[00:40:38] um
[00:40:39] You know a nice person just kind of like descend into being a piece of shit. Um
[00:40:44] And then disappear for a long time, huh?
[00:40:48] That's the joker movie that's everybody love that
[00:40:51] I don't know if he was like this great guy to start with but uh
[00:40:56] Yeah
[00:40:57] Plus too like are you gonna be able to sit there for two hours and like you're like
[00:41:02] Like
[00:41:03] In the other other movies it was least broken up with like other
[00:41:07] Scenes and characters doing other things, but yeah, this is gonna be like two hours straight of like that guy
[00:41:14] I mean, I will take it if given to me. Um, I will say that
[00:41:19] something in uh, I will say that there's something about
[00:41:24] Watching him perform that character that is eternally fascinating
[00:41:27] um, I would hope that it shows uh
[00:41:30] The decline of sorts in such a way that the voice isn't always that prevalent
[00:41:35] But I mean, yeah, we're probably in for that. I think it's interesting to do a character study within lord of the rings
[00:41:41] So and he is he is the character that that opens the door best
[00:41:47] for that kind of uh
[00:41:49] Walkthrough um because like we've already done bill bows journey
[00:41:54] Uh, we've already done a lot of side quests with gandalf in the hobbit to get to his point
[00:41:59] Uh, you know, I think at this point dolem is probably the the most likely candidate
[00:42:04] But I don't know maybe maybe this opens the door for other like solo adventures
[00:42:09] And maybe they can take them from the untold tales that tolking wrote that never got published within his lifetime
[00:42:15] But that is son chris ended up putting out like maybe there's maybe they're opening the door for something more uh,
[00:42:21] larger to um
[00:42:24] Uh, to happen but we'll see the door for the sauron movie and the sauromon movie in the uh
[00:42:30] Sauromon movie will never be made because christopher lee is dead and it should never be recast because he's christopher lee
[00:42:37] Will just use ai to recreate him
[00:42:40] No, no, we did that with peter cushing and I was already uneasy about that. No. No. No. No
[00:42:48] If they're alive dhm if they're dead keep them dead
[00:42:53] Unless it's sam lumis in the halloween movies then just put a makeup apparatus on him and get a good voice over guy
[00:42:59] And then you're set
[00:43:01] Hey, if you're dead and a corporation owns you your ip
[00:43:06] You have no control over what they can do to you
[00:43:09] What's studio?
[00:43:10] Studio. Do you think those owns your ip brad? What studio owns you? Oh, they haven't scanned me yet. So nobody
[00:43:19] Yeah, i'm owned by a poverty roaster. I'm owned by the asylum
[00:43:24] I've yet to work with them. So yeah, I'm I'm still a free man
[00:43:28] Okay, that's good master of my own destiny
[00:43:31] Yeah, that's news
[00:43:36] uh, yeah, so
[00:43:38] Let's find out what we've been watching
[00:43:46] Zach, what'd you watch?
[00:43:48] Um, I well, I've obviously been gone for months. So i'm gonna go through my entire watch list starting from uh, july of last year up to now
[00:43:56] No, um, that that would be terrible
[00:43:59] Uh, yeah, no, um, I I've been actually I was gone from the theaters for about four months because of
[00:44:06] Other projects I was engaged in
[00:44:08] Uh, that are like benny related and podcast related. So I started catching up. So I got to catch um
[00:44:15] Three key films. Uh one was uh, uh, I checked out
[00:44:20] Uh late night with the devil
[00:44:22] Uh, I really liked it a lot of a lot of fun. Uh, I know that films got some contention for having used some a i
[00:44:30] Uh, we'll be right back cards. Uh, I did not let that affect my ability to enjoy the film
[00:44:35] I think it's it's not so much like a get in your bones terrify you movie
[00:44:40] But it's so good with the conceit and its idea
[00:44:45] I think it it absolutely holds to
[00:44:48] What a found footage movie can be without uh delving into something truly ridiculous?
[00:44:54] I think it manages its tone and it's setting correctly and I like that. It's not
[00:45:00] Uh making fun of late night shows. It's it's perfectly comfortable in the world of late night shows of the 1970s
[00:45:07] And the the jokes about it are laughing with the material and not laughing at it. It's not mocking its conceit
[00:45:14] uh, and uh, uh, and uh our our lead our lead gentleman, uh, who's been
[00:45:20] Floating around the ether for years. Um, uh, david, uh, desk melchion. Uh, it's fantastic in the lead
[00:45:27] He's absolutely fantastic in this film. So if you have not watched that it's now on
[00:45:32] amc and shutter so you can check that out
[00:45:34] I caught up with civil war
[00:45:36] Alex garland's latest. Um, I like to find uh, I think that
[00:45:43] It was biting off a little more than it could chew with its concept
[00:45:47] um
[00:45:48] It suffers from a similar issue that I kind of have with three billboards outside avid missouri in retrospect where
[00:45:54] Uh, that film is being written by
[00:45:58] Uh, uh somebody from another country that doesn't fully understand the nuances of the turmoil in america. So they're they're they're missing something
[00:46:08] Um, but I don't think alex garland drops the ball completely. I think the idea of
[00:46:13] Centering it around these uh photo journalists
[00:46:16] Uh capturing the chaos around them was a smart idea because then that way you can kind of
[00:46:22] Be kind of a an observer through that lens and not necessarily through any
[00:46:27] strong political lens. Um, I just think that part of it also is that it kind of
[00:46:32] There's places where it drags a tiny bit and again, it's not fully handling the nuances of you know chaos in america
[00:46:40] that well but
[00:46:41] More than ambitious effort and and does more than I think any other filmmaker could probably achieve
[00:46:47] um
[00:46:49] And then I saw the fall guy which I really really loved
[00:46:52] but brad I have to tell you the story
[00:46:55] of how you're not alone now because
[00:46:59] melia and I
[00:47:01] went with a friend of mine from
[00:47:03] Uh, the filmmaking community
[00:47:05] um
[00:47:06] That uh got seated next to a horrible horrible lady
[00:47:13] uh
[00:47:14] She was
[00:47:15] elderly
[00:47:16] And we were talking before the trailer started. I was telling my friend about how I uh
[00:47:25] Uh had watched kingdom of the apes not too long before we came into this screening and she was letting out a loud shush
[00:47:33] to us
[00:47:35] So we all kind of quieted down. It was before the trailer
[00:47:39] The alamo quiet zone thing hadn't even come up yet
[00:47:42] So we kept our voices quiet we watched the trailers we go through the movie the same woman that was shushing us
[00:47:49] Was hooten and hollering and clapping and making gross noises throughout the entire film right next to my friend
[00:47:57] And then at the end of the movie
[00:48:00] She flagged down the waitress and started berating her about how her order was not specifically right
[00:48:07] It was the customer from hell
[00:48:10] Uh, it was absolutely egregious
[00:48:13] So you're not the only one who gets tossed next to annoying people in alamo draught house or any other movie theater
[00:48:20] We got we got the customer from hell. This lady was
[00:48:24] godly terrible
[00:48:26] Uh, I hope she's listening and if she is listening
[00:48:29] You're terrible. You're horrible. Don't come back to the movie theater. You don't deserve to be in there
[00:48:35] Uh, well, yeah
[00:48:36] The middle part where she's hooting and hollering it does are just quick reactions to things. That's not so bad, but like
[00:48:42] Yeah, the big big beginning the beginning in the end there is pretty rude
[00:48:45] Yeah, and well, no, she was like over exaggerating everything
[00:48:48] She was making incredibly distracting noises during those hooteds and hollering like it was just
[00:48:54] Why why why are you telling us to be quiet?
[00:48:58] Before the trailers go off and then you're going to make louder noises than any of us make during the entire movie
[00:49:04] It laughing is one thing doing a small clap one thing. She was like getting rounds of plazas
[00:49:09] Like she was just making like gross noises the lady was just intolerable like she was she did not
[00:49:17] She did not fit the mold of a respectful but enjoyed
[00:49:21] alamo customer
[00:49:23] Did you ever raise the flag on her like at the
[00:49:27] Staff in there
[00:49:28] So my my own anxiety doesn't
[00:49:31] Compel me to ever do those things my friend though devised a great idea
[00:49:35] Which was that because she was making noises he said shush to her multiple times in a tone loud enough for her to hear
[00:49:42] And she never blagged him. So my assumption is she got the fucking hint a little bit
[00:49:47] Um, but so that's more my friend just going like i'm just gonna clap back if you're gonna clap
[00:49:52] um, so
[00:49:54] He did more about that. Um the waitress who was helping
[00:49:57] As though she was a dream. She was fantastic. She got everybody's order in on time
[00:50:02] The fact that she was yelled at by this woman is just unconscionable. So my girlfriend ended up staying
[00:50:08] uh behind to um, uh, let uh
[00:50:12] The one of the managers know like just wanted to let you know this this woman did nothing wrong
[00:50:16] There's no issue. This woman next to us was being absolutely terrible. So
[00:50:21] But isn't just like stand up for her while she was berating her been like
[00:50:25] No, ma'am. You're doing fine. This lady's an asshole like I don't I think we were trying to like I
[00:50:31] I should have probably done something. I guess melia should have done something then but I think my my anxiety
[00:50:37] Just said like I don't want to get in the middle of this right this second
[00:50:39] But I have we got a receipt. So I know the waitress is named
[00:50:43] So we that's when we were on the lookout and melia let them know like hey, this is who
[00:50:49] You know, this is this is what happened your waitress did nothing wrong. She's okay. So
[00:50:54] um
[00:50:55] Yeah, there's just just crazy shit. I'm at the point. I would just dump my drink on her
[00:51:03] Oops
[00:51:05] I
[00:51:06] I'm sure my friend who was sitting right next to her would have probably reached that point
[00:51:10] But he was able to contain himself. So
[00:51:13] Um, but yeah, so that's uh, that's what I've been watching this week
[00:51:18] I've watched three great movies
[00:51:20] Uh, and I watched a terrible human being
[00:51:24] Well, that sucks
[00:51:26] Yeah, um
[00:51:27] Also, I saw on frosted. It's fine. Uh people are being a little bit too brutal on that film
[00:51:31] But yeah, jerry sinefield put his mouth foot in his mouth. I understand but
[00:51:35] movie's not that bad
[00:51:37] Yeah, I I haven't seen it but I saw as like did on saturday live and I was like, huh
[00:51:43] This doesn't make you look good
[00:51:45] Oh, it doesn't I think the film is funny
[00:51:48] Uh, but I think it's funny if you understand some of the references that they're pulling out there
[00:51:52] And since I'm into vintage media that kind of worked for me
[00:51:55] But I think the young the younger you go you stray the the harder it will be to enjoy that film
[00:52:02] Um, yeah, so for me I watched uh audition again
[00:52:08] Um, it was one of the late nights at the esquire
[00:52:11] Um, I fell asleep in it during like when it came out in 2000
[00:52:17] or 1999
[00:52:19] um
[00:52:21] Yeah, I missed most of it and yeah, uh that movie is
[00:52:24] Like the best part is the end and uh, it's a real slog to
[00:52:29] Get to it
[00:52:31] um
[00:52:33] Yeah, have you seen it?
[00:52:35] I once in film school. Um, I don't like remember like love like uber loving it
[00:52:41] But it was it was unique enough for me to say like right on I enjoyed that
[00:52:45] I wish I could have the theater for it because I'd I'd love to have watched that with the crowd
[00:52:50] I mean, I guess like there wasn't like a big reaction from the crowd and I guess until like the very end but
[00:52:56] Um, yeah, it's like god the setup for this is just uh
[00:52:59] Give me come on move this along
[00:53:02] Like because I kind of know what's gonna happen. It's not just like
[00:53:07] This is a lot of drawn-outness. Yeah
[00:53:10] wonder if my uh experience lately doing Japanese horror films from decades past with my friend roshmi would
[00:53:18] compel me in the rewatch to
[00:53:21] Take some of those lessons and apply it to the more recent viewing because I imagine I probably appreciate it more now
[00:53:27] than I did when I first saw it
[00:53:30] Yeah, uh, then uh, uh aro had weird science 4k like super cheap. So I pulled the trigger on that
[00:53:37] and
[00:53:38] I'd only watched it like in parts
[00:53:41] When I was a kid like it you know, it was on tv in parts or people
[00:53:45] Put it on and I came in you know late or something
[00:53:49] So I've never really sat down and watched the whole thing and whoof that
[00:53:55] Is like I think the movie that I've seen lately that has most not aged well
[00:54:00] Which one again? Sorry your view cut out there for a second. Which movie weird science
[00:54:05] Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah
[00:54:09] In my head it was like a lot more light fun 80s romp but like
[00:54:13] It's just kind of gross
[00:54:18] Yeah
[00:54:19] All john hughes films or john hughes produced films. It's one of those ones that
[00:54:23] Like even the breakfast club with its foul language and certain actions by benders
[00:54:29] Somehow more like watchable than than what weird science is uh
[00:54:34] Yeah, I only I didn't see it until I was in high school
[00:54:39] And I and I I was just like this feels weird. I'm done
[00:54:43] It's weird science so it makes sense, but uh, yeah, that's just like
[00:54:47] You know
[00:54:49] Obviously i'm notoriously like in love with 80s stuff. I was like man, that's one that like
[00:54:54] I guess the biggest disconnect in my head
[00:54:57] um
[00:54:59] because yeah, like it's
[00:55:02] Like obviously there's like just some you know language
[00:55:05] Usage and stuff and like anthony michael's performance in the uh
[00:55:10] Like jazz club or whatever it's like
[00:55:12] I don't remember seeing it all and this is like not something I would be proud of
[00:55:17] General plot and conceit of the film is a problem to from the get-go
[00:55:21] So everything else on top of that is just kind of like
[00:55:25] I sing on this layered cake of oh no
[00:55:28] Yeah, I mean overall like okay two dudes. Yeah, I don't care about the science of it like that's not the
[00:55:34] Hang up for me like
[00:55:36] It's this weird fantasy thing but like yeah in the end is trying to say like
[00:55:41] um, you know
[00:55:44] I think there's better stories to tell people how like how to gain confidence like and
[00:55:49] I don't think this one is a very like
[00:55:51] The right way to do it
[00:55:54] You know, it's not like the boys really fail
[00:55:57] Or get their comeuppance for what they're doing which is wrong
[00:56:01] Um, and then like other characters just disappear from the movie like
[00:56:05] um
[00:56:06] Yeah
[00:56:08] And it also feels like they just uh scenes just jump along
[00:56:11] Also, like there's a theatrical version an extended version on the disc and I watched the extended one
[00:56:16] So, I don't know maybe like
[00:56:18] I need to go watch the theatrical because they did edit down like all this extraneous stuff that just like makes it
[00:56:23] Jump around and like like
[00:56:27] I wonder if it um
[00:56:30] It's kind of weird because like there's every every john hughes
[00:56:33] John hughes film does seem to kind of have one element or two that has an age well
[00:56:37] Like my go-to is always one duck long one one done luck from um
[00:56:43] Uh, I can't remember the character's name, but that it's something to that effect from um
[00:56:48] uh
[00:56:49] 16 candles, uh
[00:56:51] The character this asian character that is just like a complete
[00:56:55] Uh
[00:56:56] Shit show of a character and even when I saw 16 candles for the first time. I'm like this isn't this isn't appropriate
[00:57:03] This isn't
[00:57:04] Most of them sit there going like, you know the overall idea like I could see this being remade and being like a lot of fun
[00:57:10] In like a modern way like there's a way to do this, but yeah
[00:57:14] Um
[00:57:15] But yeah, it's weird like in the 80s. Yeah, this was a big deal
[00:57:19] um
[00:57:20] I can see why it's a it's a it's a it's a unique concept. It's got all your favorite 80 stars in it
[00:57:27] It's got a good killer soundtrack. It's like I can understand why people enjoyed it. I
[00:57:32] I mean, I think the biggest sin for you is that they colorize frankenstein in it
[00:57:41] You know, I I you know what
[00:57:47] Fair
[00:57:49] I can imagine you watching be like a creature a creature
[00:57:52] What's this movie? I didn't remember that but yeah
[00:57:56] Yeah, now i'm remembering it and yeah
[00:57:59] I don't really like if you're I just don't want the entire movie to be colorized
[00:58:03] Like that that would be more my issue if somebody said this is the definitive version of frankenstein
[00:58:07] I'd be like the hell it is
[00:58:09] But I don't know they're using it for the film. It doesn't like it's not the end of the world
[00:58:15] Um, also when that film was produced that was around the time. I think that
[00:58:19] Colorized versions of black and white films was a thing that was prevalent to some degree or one another
[00:58:25] No, thanks. Thanks in no small part to ted turner and his wacky ideas. So yeah the beginning of the movie
[00:58:32] They're actually watching it in black and white in the kitchen
[00:58:34] But when they move to a different room in the house, I have a color tv and suddenly it's in color
[00:58:38] Yeah, so
[00:58:40] That doesn't make any sense
[00:58:42] Um, yeah, and then uh the last two things I watched where um, I did the regal mystery movie
[00:58:48] Um on monday and it turned out to be babes
[00:58:52] which is um
[00:58:54] Comedy that's I think coming out this weekend officially
[00:58:58] So, um, what?
[00:59:00] Yes, it is. Yeah
[00:59:02] Yeah
[00:59:03] About these two women
[00:59:05] One is a already a mother and she's having another child and then her friend who's kind of like
[00:59:12] an arrested development person
[00:59:14] Um, who suddenly gets pregnant and now she has to go through
[00:59:19] Having a child and she is definitely not ready for it
[00:59:22] And she leans on her friend who has had kids
[00:59:26] um, and that kind of implodes their friendship and
[00:59:29] It's wrought. It's like raunchy as hell
[00:59:32] um
[00:59:34] but uh
[00:59:35] According to them like it's a pretty uh accurate portrayal of real life
[00:59:40] um for them and then um
[00:59:43] Yeah, I thought it was fun. It's not like
[00:59:47] You know the best comedy I've ever seen but
[00:59:49] Uh compared to like what's out there. I was like wow like someone's still trying to be edgy with this
[00:59:54] um, and and not like an edgelord way
[00:59:59] So I had fun um
[01:00:01] Although I got I got there a little bit late
[01:00:03] So I missed I think I like maybe a minute of the opening and uh as I was walking in two older people were walking out
[01:00:12] It's uh right away. It's pretty filthy
[01:00:16] Right on yeah, I
[01:00:18] I mean, uh, I haven't seen uh bottoms
[01:00:21] Um from last year either but it sounds like that there's a raunchy comedy come back kind of slowly emerging which I
[01:00:27] Enjoy seeing that happen. So
[01:00:30] Yeah, um, yeah bottoms is a little more like zany fun
[01:00:35] Where this is just more like
[01:00:37] Dirty and real
[01:00:39] Pretty ungrounded. Okay. Yeah, like a lot of the comedy is just the dialogue, you know, it's not like there's a lot of sight gags
[01:00:44] Like bottoms has
[01:00:47] All right, but still got a much factor. Maybe that's the key thing that I'm honing in on them
[01:00:52] Yeah
[01:00:53] And the last thing I watched was out chris pines directorial debut pool man
[01:00:58] Oh, how was it?
[01:01:00] It was just kind of blah
[01:01:02] Um, I told uh someone else, uh, it's basically if it feels like
[01:01:08] An inside joke where two friends decided hey, what if china town?
[01:01:13] was a comedy and
[01:01:16] uh
[01:01:17] The comedy was very niche to us
[01:01:20] and um jake gittis
[01:01:23] Was a neurotic working through his trauma
[01:01:26] Okay, while being a
[01:01:29] Unlicensed detective. It's very like the whole time. I was just like what
[01:01:33] What is this movie trying to do? I know it's clearly loves china town
[01:01:37] um, it's exactly china town in the movie they
[01:01:43] Confess that they're basically doing china town. So I don't know
[01:01:48] what the why why why
[01:01:52] Definitely a friend's helping friends movie got made
[01:01:56] like
[01:01:56] Who is this for other than the people who made it?
[01:01:59] You know though I I I haven't seen it yet obviously, but I did
[01:02:03] Uh, I did read an article where chris pine was kind of like
[01:02:06] Reacting to the negative reaction of the film and he kind of just said like no, I'm proud of this thing
[01:02:10] I don't care what yeah, I saw the headlines like did I make a piece of shit people are telling me I made a piece of
[01:02:15] Shit, but no no, I love this. I made this. This is good. Yeah, that's all that matters
[01:02:21] Attitude makes me want to watch the movie regardless of whether or not I like it or not
[01:02:24] I appreciate that attitude. Yeah, I saw the trailer. It looked fun
[01:02:28] So I was like, you know, give it a shot and then like the people the ask wire said like
[01:02:31] We left 40 minutes in and we work here. This is like, oh, that's a dumpster fire
[01:02:35] And I still got to watch it and then I watched I was like, it's not even like a dumpster fire. It's just kind of like meh
[01:02:41] okay
[01:02:43] It's competent. It's competent. There's a story here, but the story is china town. So not original
[01:02:49] Like yeah
[01:02:51] Even the twists and turns are china town, but then just then there's parts like oh
[01:02:57] Whatever the pullman's real name is we'll say pullman chris pines character
[01:03:01] He jumps on a like vespas scooter and rides around with like a gold
[01:03:05] Helmet in a cape
[01:03:09] Okay, he's he's evading the cops
[01:03:12] Hilarious
[01:03:13] You know, it's funny when I saw the trailer for it
[01:03:16] um, I wouldn't even have thought china town because of his
[01:03:21] Look and design
[01:03:22] I thought it was like oh is this kind of like big labowski if it was a little bit more
[01:03:26] Cohesive and less ambiguous like or like less of a raiment chandler novel like that sounds fun. I guess
[01:03:33] Um, I'd be down to see it
[01:03:35] Uh sounds like though apparently it's kind of just there. Yeah
[01:03:40] So much again before I watch the pull man and see which one's better
[01:03:46] Yeah, I mean the only thing that's different is like yeah, he's a guy who lives in a trailer at a motel
[01:03:52] Um and works on the pool
[01:03:54] He's the koatex guy and then he gets roped. He's he's been he's trying to uh get trolleys installed into los angeles to improve transportation
[01:04:03] Quote i'll uh who framed roger rabbit
[01:04:06] Bring those back. They say that in the movie
[01:04:09] um, and then uh
[01:04:11] yeah
[01:04:14] Literally the other the plot is someone stealing water from los angeles for their own personal benefit
[01:04:20] Um, and so he has to figure out how to stop that. He thinks it's the
[01:04:24] steven tolblasky's character the main councilman but
[01:04:28] You know
[01:04:29] Not that far removed. So yeah, it's like okay
[01:04:33] Why does this have to be a pool guy? I don't know
[01:04:36] I don't know
[01:04:37] Yeah, dan de vito and um in at benninger's parents
[01:04:41] But you're like the whole movie you're like is dan de vito his real dad or is like an adoptive father
[01:04:47] Like annette benning doesn't treat him like her son
[01:04:49] But she like doesn't say he's he's her son, but she acts like it because she's also like his therapist
[01:04:55] Yeah, just yeah
[01:04:58] Like dan de vito is trying to make a movie of the whole thing
[01:05:01] while it's going on
[01:05:03] Yeah, I don't know
[01:05:05] Fair enough
[01:05:08] And that's what I watched this week. What are you guys gonna watch next week?
[01:05:13] Well, uh, zack ryan has informed me that our movie of the week for next week is the strangers
[01:05:20] Uh
[01:05:21] Chapter one. I think it's part one whatever it's chapter one. There's three chapters to this book ranny harland's
[01:05:28] Put together a trilogy
[01:05:30] I don't know what my hang-up is on like using
[01:05:33] Chapter as like a movie term because that's like for books for me, but I don't know
[01:05:38] But I mean quentin tarantino's done it before so maybe it works
[01:05:42] Um, I'm actually shocked that he doesn't want to see if uh by dron krasinski, but maybe that's just uh
[01:05:47] Maybe he has his reasons who knows
[01:05:50] Um, they could have called it the original strangers. Maybe hear something like that, but no they went with chapter one
[01:05:58] The strange and then yeah goes into urs
[01:06:01] The strange ur and then this equals the strangers
[01:06:06] Strangest
[01:06:08] Yeah, yeah the strange trilogy strange stranger strangers
[01:06:14] Somewhere somewhere kevin feige is having a heart attack by us stealing his quote unquote ip
[01:06:20] So yeah, that's what we'll be watching next week so
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