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[00:01:27] What up? Brad, how are you today? I'm doing all right. Just getting caught up in things. How you doing? As you can tell, I definitely am sick like I said last night. What's with that? Every time you fly on a plane, you get sick, buddy. I know, bro.
[00:01:46] I don't know and it's always sinus. Like I don't feel bad. I don't know how to describe it. I don't feel bad. That's what I had last week. Yeah. I had a scratchy throat but it never went anywhere further like it usually does. Yeah.
[00:02:02] Same when I was in Virginia with my kid, he had a stuffy nose but he never had a fever and he never told me that he felt really bad. And I think I got the same thing he did, but I don't feel bad.
[00:02:15] I just sound like I'm a fucking idiot. And it's every time I freaking travel. It's the humanity just spreads germs. Yeah. It does. I'm glad I sat next to you yesterday because I'm pretty sure five days from now I'm gonna be like my sinuses don't feel good.
[00:02:34] It's definitely what's gonna happen. Man, yeah. What are you gonna do, right? Just perfect luck for you to have this situation when you're talking about it, or when your favorite movie is ever. Yeah, I pulled a butt head move. I don't know.
[00:02:53] So this week we should have probably seen Civil War but I really didn't feel like seeing that type of movie. And I mean, I'll see it eventually because it looks interesting. But Spider-Man, the cinematic Spider-Man's are being re-released in theaters and.
[00:03:12] Every Monday for the next, I don't know, eight weeks? Yeah. So I decided that would be a perfect opportunity to review one of my favorite films ever. 2002, Spider-Man is our film of the week. We'll recommend the film or not play the trailer in a 21 year old movie.
[00:03:32] Recommend the film or not, are you kidding me? Yeah, I know. I wish we could probably just talk about it. I don't know, because I was talking to you yesterday and I said, man, I don't think I've seen this in theaters since it came out.
[00:03:47] I think I saw it five or six times in the theater when it came out. I own every, what would you call it, version of it on home video. I have three or four DVDs, two or three Blu-rays and just one set of the 4Ks.
[00:04:10] But yeah, Spider-Man's my favorite character. Spider-Man was one of the coolest experiences I've ever had as a movie goer. And I thought it was a really cool time to revisit the film. And it was almost sold out. It might have been sold out.
[00:04:33] When we got tickets when they came out a while ago, there wasn't very many people in the theater than yesterday, man, it was packed. Yeah, yeah, it's closer sold out I think. So that made four o'clock on Monday.
[00:04:48] It's like, I don't know how many people found the time. Like that's how popular Spider-Man is. And it seems, yeah, I'm surprised they haven't exploited these movies before putting them out because he is one of the most beloved characters ever.
[00:05:09] And I mean, it's evidenced by all how well all his movies do. So yeah, it's interesting that they didn't put them out before and directors cuts of it or whatever. And I think it not being in theaters regularly for the past 20 years also contributed to,
[00:05:31] hey, it's out, I gotta go see it. Four o'clock on a Monday. Yeah, but the other movies are being sold really well too. I didn't buy them all at once because my schedule, I have to make sure I can actually go to the movie.
[00:05:48] And so I started just picking up some random ones again. And I got far from home and it's about the same amount of people that were at Spider-Man. So I'm excited, I like that he's back in the public consciousness.
[00:06:07] And I hope that this is a buildup to at Comic-Con. They're gonna announce the new Spider-Man movie which would make me happy. I figured the first three and maybe like the amazing ones would probably sell well just cause they don't enter the theater a lot.
[00:06:28] And I figured like the most recent three would be like, oh yeah, I just saw those like three to four years ago. So no big deal, but apparently it doesn't matter. Yeah, it's cool as a Spider-Man fan, it's awesome. But you know, time goes by so fast
[00:06:43] because they were putting out a new Spider-Man and MCU. I mean, there was a time that Spider-Man was had a movie every year from like 2016 to 2021 with one break in 2020 for the COVID pandemic. Yeah. Between his appearances in the MCU and his animated film, he kept popping up.
[00:07:10] Which is... They talk about like, you know, Star Wars fatigue or Marvel fatigue, but you know, those movies came out like once every three years. And then yeah, but yeah, Spider-Man here is pretty versatile because like you said, yeah, some variation of Spider-Man was out in theaters
[00:07:26] each of those years back to back. Yeah, it's a trip and like I've always said, I think he's the greatest fictional character of all time. And I think he resonates with people as the, you know, the one of us kind of hero. You know, your favorite Batman.
[00:07:44] And I think Batman is always so popular because he has no superpowers. His superpower is his wanting to fight justice. And his infinite cash flow. Yeah. But yeah, it's a, I mean, it's great to be a Spider-Man fan right now. Yeah. Should we play the 2002 trailer
[00:08:04] and then just talk about this one? Yeah, let's do it. Who am I? You sure you want to know? If somebody told you I was just your average ordinary guy, not a care in the world, somebody lied. The truth is it wasn't always like this.
[00:08:27] There was a time when life was a lot less complicated. Can I take your picture for the school paper? Sure. In this lab, we have 15 genetically enhanced super spiders. There's 14. One's missing. Peter, are you all right? I'm fine. People, look, you're changing.
[00:08:53] I know I went through exactly the same thing that you're in. No, not exactly. Wow. Peter may introduce my father, Norman Osborn. Great honor to meet you, sir. Harry tells me you're quite the science quiz. You know, I'm something of a scientist myself.
[00:09:19] Whatever it is, somebody has to stop it. With great power comes great responsibility. This is my gift. Wow. It is my curse. Who are you? Who am I? I'm Spider-Man. Do I get to say thank you this time? You do too much. You're not Superman, you know.
[00:10:25] But it wasn't always the case, Brad. Spider-Man had a bumpy road to get to the big screen. I saw this film at midnight the day it came out at Denver West, RIP, Denver West United Artists. And I remember vividly because I'm sure you're like me.
[00:10:50] Your favorite characters, properties, you want to do well so you can see more. And so I saw it at midnight, which means I got a lot of information about the movie. And so I saw it at midnight, which means I got home probably 2.33 in the morning.
[00:11:08] And I had to go back. I was a head waiter at Outback at the time and I had to balance the books, quote unquote. So I had to go in before the restaurant opened and made sure
[00:11:19] all the cash and all the credit cards we had from the night before balanced. And I remember saying, man, that show was sold out. That's pretty awesome. And I went to the Outback was at the top of the Denver West parking lot.
[00:11:34] And as I was driving the line to get see Spider-Man at like eight in the morning, went all the way to soundtrack at the end of the parking lot. I'm not talking about, oh, it's just next door.
[00:11:47] That's like a good, you know, half a mile, quarter of a mile. Trying to paint a picture for people who don't live in Golden. Yeah. I guess in between the movie theater and soundtrack, eventually Ultimate Electronics, there's like a Barnes & Noble, a Jamba Juice, Whole Foods.
[00:12:11] What was it before? Office Max. Yeah. It used to be, it's world market now. I forget what it was before. Was it a TJ Max or something? Oh God. Yeah, I don't know. I really didn't pay attention to that couple of stores. Yeah, it's a DSW now.
[00:12:28] But it's a trip because... Yeah, there's like five or like, there's like 10 stores in between the movie theater and where you're talking about. Yeah. You know, that style is, I mean, you won't have it anymore now because you have reserved seats and stuff.
[00:12:46] But I remember saying, oh my gosh, I think this movie is going to be really big. And you don't even remember in 2002, no film had opened over a hundred million dollars at the box office until Spider-Man was open with 114.
[00:13:02] I can't even imagine people in this day and age, like having the patience to stand there like in that line for a movie. I remember the first time I really did it was for the Phantom Menace in 1999. Yeah. At Denver West. I remember sitting in line
[00:13:20] and then getting in early because we helped Joe's girlfriend, Beverly, who is the manager there. And so we skipped everybody in line. It was awesome. But yeah, anyway, just some context of how cool Spider-Man is. If you don't know the film, it's the origin story
[00:13:37] of Spider-Man, also of the Green Goblin and they fight. But what is really cool, and I was talking to you yesterday, the movie still, I mean, it's one of my favorite films. I'm always going to love it, but it holds up so incredibly well
[00:13:57] because how innovative it is and how fresh it still feels when you watch it. Yeah. The other context is like in this time, 2002, the only other great superhero movie of this era is X-Men. Yeah. They don't even have the other Marvel Daredevil Punisher. No, those are out yet.
[00:14:22] And then before that, the only good stuff you've had is Superman and what, four Batman's to move, which are like the... Yeah, because there was Batman and Robin 97. Yeah. So even then, you had a huge gap between, I mean, I think Blade came out in 98.
[00:14:43] Oh yeah, it was Blade, yeah. But that's hard to sell as a straight comic book movie. Because it's such a horror action kind of thing that doesn't lead into the comic books as much. Yeah, so the X-Men hit and like it did well enough
[00:15:01] and then yeah, Spider-Man just like entered a new era of, oh my God, these can be amazing and a lot of that's done through like it's so... It's such a visually inventive piece. I was just marveling at all the... A lot of those shots hadn't...
[00:15:18] Like they seem standard now, but like back then they're pretty dynamic. Yeah, and you know, I will say our theater projection was really dark. Oh, was it? Yeah. I mean maybe it's because I'm used to watching it on 4K, but... I wonder if it was a...
[00:15:37] Because it was supposed to be in 35 millimeter and they couldn't get it up and running. Maybe the projection for 35 millimeters darker. Oh, maybe. For some reason. What I really noticed is the Green Goblin's purple highlights didn't pop as much and when he's talking to Spider-Man
[00:15:56] on the roof, you can't see his mouth as well. But then again also once you're at home I imagine it's just brighter because you have like a 4K rear projection. Oh, maybe yeah. Maybe so maybe that's like the front projection. It could also be like they didn't...
[00:16:14] Like they had it set for 35 in the last minute. It didn't set like the brightness back or something. Oh, maybe. I mean it still looked great. I mean the... I even still laugh at some of the corniness, you know. And now Macy Gray!
[00:16:31] I know all the corporate tie and stuff. She wanted there, yeah. She had a record deal with Sony. Yeah. You know, I called the 9-11 remix where the Goblin is attacking Spider-Man and Spider-Man is saved by New Yorkers. And they say, you mess with one of us,
[00:16:52] you mess with all of us. I'd be curious to know if that scene is actually in the original film. Yeah, that feels good. It was the last minute edition, yeah. Yeah, it was supposed to come out in 2001 and then they delayed it like six months, right?
[00:17:05] I don't know. I think it was always supposed to come out in 2002. But I think they had... Maybe they did have to delay it because the climax took place at the World Trade Center. I don't know. I'm reading a book right now called With Great Power,
[00:17:21] which is the making of the Spider-Man films. And I just got into this one because it actually goes back to those 70s ones that we see the trailers for all the time. Like Italian Spider-Man and everything? Yeah. It's a pretty cool little book.
[00:17:36] And I think it's a great book. It's a cool little book. But yeah, I mean this movie is awesome. You know, Toby McGuire is Peter Parker does so well as that kind of bookish nerd guy who tries to understand his place in the world
[00:17:55] and learns the lesson with great power and has become great responsibility. And it's handled so well in the film. Cliff Robertson who plays Uncle Ben is incredible in his little scream time in the film. I was just thinking about that line.
[00:18:16] There was a point where you heard it all the time. And now I think about it, I really haven't heard it that much in pop culture. Even though you've had tons of Spider-Man movies, they really haven't repeated that for like the past 10 or 15 years.
[00:18:31] And I kind of feel like people need to hear that again. Oh yeah, I agree. That's why I cry every time I watch No Way Home when Aunt May dies and she says that to him. And they go, oh my gosh.
[00:18:47] Yeah, even I think James Franco is really good in the film as the conflicted. It's so weird seeing him as like a baby face because I know it's probably the same about what I've been watching. I saw Spring Breakers this week. Oh shit. That's way different.
[00:19:04] Yeah, good job of a, I remember like paying attention to his story as much. You know, the first, you know, when I saw in theaters in 2002 and the second time around, I don't know. I had to describe like I noticed it more
[00:19:20] is a, you know, dual with his father, I guess in some ways. Yeah, you know, I love to his kind of turn towards the end of the film. Because I think Harry Osborn's one of the greatest Spider-Man villains ever because he's so conflicted.
[00:19:36] And I think the films did a really great job of conveying that. You know, when Norman comes over for Thanksgiving and he figures out Pete is Spider-Man and he says those horrible things about Mary Jane. And when Harry comes back in, he's like switches to Norman Osborn's
[00:19:57] where he tells Mary Jane keep her mouth shut about stuff she doesn't understand. And he kind of, that's his turn, I guess to the dark side. Because he even inadvertently tells Norman that, you know, he cares, Peter cares about Mary Jane more than anybody
[00:20:23] in kind of a non-truthful way about how he was wronged. And it carries over for the next two films. That's kind of one of the goof things for me though looking back on it. Like Harry sees them briefly holding hands in Aunt May's hospital room.
[00:20:44] Like that's the thing that sends him over the edge. Like he couldn't think that, oh, she's consoling him because Aunt May's hurts. Like kind of this first thing is like they're cheating on him. Like that's kind of like a real rush to judgment thing.
[00:21:02] And then later on, the other goofy thing is when Spider-Man drops off from Norman Osborn to their penthouse and they just keep a gun in the side table in the room just like it's just there ready to go.
[00:21:20] Well, I will say that Brad in my career and doing search warrants there's always a gun right there. And a dildo. That is 100% true. It just makes me think there's like one stash like in every drawer
[00:21:43] wherever you need it based on the positioning you might find yourself in at any moment in a rich person's penthouse that not a ton of people go to. Yeah. I know every time I see when Pete lays down Norman's body,
[00:21:58] my mind immediately goes to Spider-Man 3 when his butler goes. Oh God. Like the worst exposition. I have no idea why they left that in the movie. I feel bad talking about that guy but it just felt like he won a contest.
[00:22:12] And like Sony like he collected enough coupons. We got to put him in there. We got to honor the deal. Bill Paxton's dad. I don't know if Sam Raimi's friends with Bill Paxton or was.
[00:22:30] I was telling someone yesterday about the yeah there's this we got tickets we're seeing the old Spider-Man movies every Monday for the next few weeks and he's like oh man I don't know if I could do Spider-Man 3 I was like yeah I don't know if I could do it either.
[00:22:42] And then I got brought that scene of like I'll never forget that old man's delivery of basically like if he just told Harry Osborn that night off. Yeah we could have saved him a lot of trouble. Maybe he would have been a goblin junior.
[00:23:01] Yeah I know could have resolved that in the first movie anyway. Yeah I was read that is like Sam Raimi was so pissed off having to shoehorn venom into his movie that he's like I'm just going to make this the worst. Spider-Man 3 isn't that bad.
[00:23:23] Not overall but I feel like there's parts of it where you're just like fuck this. Oh yeah there's parts that definitely don't hold up as well that's one of them. I always tease people because everybody loves venom for some reason that's literally venom story.
[00:23:38] So I don't know why people always get rag on how venom is you know doesn't like they don't like venom in there and I mean he was shoehorned in but that's literally his story he's rival reporter and Spider-Man expose the secret and he turns into venom.
[00:23:55] Yeah I think it's also to apparently the people like these movies hate comedy so when you have Spider-Man dancing in the streets that's going to piss him off.
[00:24:08] You know I was wondering I haven't bought a ticket for Spider-Man 3 yet but is because of the meme culture does that movie become more acceptable now because you know it's in the new Spider-Man animated movie and It's probably coming back around.
[00:24:26] Yeah but it was like so hated that opening weekend when they saw that I remember just like all the internet stuff is being like you know after two successful movies they're ready to like crucify Sam Raimi for that one scene.
[00:24:41] Yeah what I always say too is I think people misread that scene too because it's Peter's perception of himself at that point and if you look at the people are around him they look at him like he's a doofus. Yeah.
[00:24:55] So it's part of what the symbiote does to him but you know it's all good. It's all good. I do too. I love the climax in the original Spider-Man where the green goblin gives him a choice you know save the kids or save Mary Jane.
[00:25:13] Yeah I told you this before it's funny how in my mind the whole battle seemed more epic but it's really like very intimate. Yeah. By today's standards you know. You know I think surprisingly pretty violent too. Yeah. You know the hits really connect in it.
[00:25:34] Those right before the movie started they brought in like a couple I don't know six seven year olds sat in the front row in front of us and the movie opened with that like Italian Spider-Man with like their rat eating the guy's face.
[00:25:47] I was like I don't know if I should use they should use this for the like and then yeah like Norman Osborn gets impaled by those glider blades. In the dick. It is really low. Yeah. On his body.
[00:26:06] Yeah I was thinking that too it's like I don't know if there's any vital organs right there like worst case scenario his hip is just like shattered. Maybe it's severed an artery in his leg or something I don't know. Yeah I'll go with that.
[00:26:20] Yeah what else about this movie. No this movie is great. I fucking love this movie. You know just and it's the little things that I always loved about it when the Green Goblin appears at that world's unity whatever it may be great concert.
[00:26:39] Just the little subtleties of when he's on the glider and how he moves and his hand runs against the balloons and how he steers the glider.
[00:26:50] It's just like the little details that are awesome and what I love about this movie too is it proved that for the most part I mean the Green Goblin isn't comic accurate but Spider-Man is.
[00:27:01] I remember that was a big thing is you know back in the day even with Batman. Oh are you going to make his costume look like it does in the comics and people slowly learned is yeah you should because it's awesome. You know good design is good design.
[00:27:16] Yeah. There's that X-Men joke where it says what do you want us to be in yellow spandex. And here we are in 2024 and Wolverine will be in yellow spandex.
[00:27:29] Yeah but even then like they've upgraded it you know they've added better details because you know if they've done yellow spandex in like the 70s and 80s and yeah it looks goofy as hell but.
[00:27:40] Yeah there's just like a balance of trying to like make it look good for film and then honoring you know the let like the lack of detail on the page. Yeah.
[00:27:53] I think that's the thing is like on the page you know for a long time it was just you know four colors and you know out in outlines and then you've got the camera which picks up tons of detail.
[00:28:05] Yeah true what they I think in the right now they figured out how to balance that of like whereas you know when they're making Batman you know it's probably black just to hide all the shoddy effects that they had from the low budget they had at the time.
[00:28:22] Isn't that crazy to think that Batman didn't have a huge budget. Yeah like the first one for sure. Yeah they went on on returns but yeah the first one. Yeah I think it was like 50 million or something which is still big for an 89 but not blockbuster big.
[00:28:37] Yeah but not enough. Yeah I know I can minimum today is like. Like what was Spider-Man's budget in 2002. No I'm guessing probably 140 million. Oh we can you know there's a great resource for this called IMDB.
[00:28:54] Yeah is what are there what else were you looking at in 2002 Brad what else was in what else did you think was cool. Like in general or Spider-Man. Yeah just in general take us back 2002. Gosh.
[00:29:15] I mean that's the summer attack of the clones came out so that's not cool. I mean that when I saw the Oda fight back then it was cool but watching the movie now is tough for me. It's been a while maybe I'll watch that tonight with Kellen.
[00:29:33] You know my minority report came out that summer that was cool. Men in black 2 came out that was not cool. Leelona Stitch was great. Road to Perdition. Yep. Austin Powers and Gold member not as fun as Spy who shagged me. So the budget for Spider-Man is 139.
[00:29:56] Yeah so pretty hefty. Yeah I mean probably adjusted for inflation probably 250. Take your prices I'm looking at my list of 2002 tickets it's six dollars for me. Oh shit. Yeah so they made that money on a bunch of us seeing it for six bucks.
[00:30:14] Yeah probably seven for everyone else because I think I was still getting student price even though I was out of high school. Yeah what else about Spider-Man? It's awesome and everybody could see it. Yeah I'd forgotten Mary Jane and Harry dated in that first movie.
[00:30:40] Yeah she dates everybody. At least the third one make more sense. I mean I probably understood it back then but like I'd totally forgotten since then that that was the thing that they were fighting over each other even that far back. Yeah she was meeting Spider-Man 3.
[00:31:01] But this one sets up that she's a very lost person because she had a horrible horrible upbringing and it was kind of cringy to watch her deliver.
[00:31:13] At the end of the movie you know when I was up there and I was almost going to die I was only thinking about you Peter Parker.
[00:31:20] And it's just like I don't know it did seem like a lot of other than it just felt like a like a trauma response more than like she'd seen all the good things that he'd done for her throughout the movie.
[00:31:34] Yeah and you know no one talks about how mature and how he to your point recognizes that and that does she really love him? You know what I mean? Oh I thought he was thinking about was like because he had like two people he loved.
[00:31:53] Like if he's going to keep being Spider-Man he can't be close to people or else they'll always be in danger because he's Spider-Man. I thought that's what was going through his mind at the time. I think it's a little bit of both. Peter is such a good guy.
[00:32:09] Yeah but yeah it's mature. Because it's a bird too. Say no to her at that point. That's a really good friend. I will say the lady who sat next to me she was young. I should say lady I should say young woman.
[00:32:29] I sneezed in the theater and she said bless you which was really nice. And then she was really into the movie and at the end when Spidey is swinging through the city she was clapping her hands. And I go you see even one person can make a difference.
[00:32:48] It's just cool to see that this movie still resonates that way. You know she had to have seen it before. Do you think she went into it cold? I don't know. No way to know without asking her. I don't want to be that guy though.
[00:33:05] Have you seen this before? Yeah. Did you happen to notice that everybody should see Spidey Man? There's a screening for the true fans. You seem a little too young to have understood this movie in 2002. I will say it's a funny totally off topic but you just reminded me.
[00:33:26] When Kelly and I were in Virginia we went to Bush Gardens and we were getting on the train that goes around it. And the guy who or the kid who did the safety announcements sounded like Neil Goldman on the family guy.
[00:33:42] He's going I make sure you keep your hands inside the vehicle at all times. These kids got up and ran around and then he started he kicked the family off because they're being unsafe. And it's he's being super nice.
[00:33:57] He's like sir you need to step away from the train. Oh man this is awesome. Fucking Neil Goldman the locks. That's hilarious. It's great. Oh god. She'd said something to him like quote of the show to him like as you left or something.
[00:34:15] I know but I felt bad for him these people are being really mean to him because he he's just said I'm just doing my job.
[00:34:24] Because if I get I mean I'm guessing there is some protocol that if they don't listen during the safety announcement you get off and run on the tracks and you can't be on the ride. Seems like a solid policy.
[00:34:38] Yeah so he so he's being picked on by these people I felt really bad for him. He had he had been like maybe 17 16 17 years old. Yeah we also talk about movie news that I didn't mention at the beginning of the show.
[00:35:02] Here's the big movie news of the week. It's real news. Well brand OJ Simpson is dead and no one cares. That's your news story. No I was taking a shot at OJ. I guess he was in movies.
[00:35:23] He was he's in the naked gun and it's really weird thing can be really silly when you know he's a murderer. He was acquitted sir. Yeah there's a great law he did not do it. That is correct. Everybody's innocent until proven guilty. There's a great book.
[00:35:41] It's what the OJ made in America was based off of. There's no reason I can't remember the name of the book but it's really great and it tells you why OJ is the person who killed him. There's there's tons of evidence against him.
[00:35:56] Anyways now the cinema con happened this last week out in Las Vegas and is that a private event because it seems like something to be fun to go to. I think you have to be a theater. Exhibitor to go to that.
[00:36:10] Let's pretend we are is that what that is. Yeah well I mean the real point of it is they're basically pitching movie theaters on why you have to put this many screens to wicked or whatever the theaters. Yeah you have to part of NATO and its partner associations.
[00:36:31] Huh let's just say that's the only thing that's going to happen. Let's just sneak in. Just to make some fake badges. Yeah. And ATO on them. Well I guess a bug theater maybe I could register us in Donato and do it. That'd be fun.
[00:36:55] Yeah it's there wasn't anything like two shots. Wait are you sure though it's six hundred twenty five dollars for the lowest tier. Oh fuck. Oh no wait you don't have to be because there's a non-member tier for industry affiliates and association ineligible. And then association eligible non-member.
[00:37:19] Yeah that's us we do a movie podcast. So if you want to pay eight hundred dollars for just a trade show pass and not the seminars package all that like the highest one is sixteen ninety five. Holy shit.
[00:37:33] And then if you buy them after April 3rd which add two hundred dollars to all those prices it's expensive. Wow. Well I mean I guess they got to get everybody out there.
[00:37:44] The screenings studio presentations are under the domestic package so even if you get the cheapo trade show pass you only get to go to the trade show. No food functions no screening studio presentations. Oh man well you must start pouring extra money into that real it's fun.
[00:38:03] I'm good. I mean if I knew for certain I was going to get a paramount key chain then maybe. Let's get a booth there and we're just going to have one business card. I don't think they have like booths. Well the trade show is.
[00:38:23] Well for like podcasters and like I think they only have booths for like Warner Brothers and you know Paramount stuff. That was an office joke when you know they're at the trade show and Michael just brings one piece of paper.
[00:38:35] Oh sorry I said are you sure you just want to bring one piece of paper and you went back. Pam Pam Pam. And he sees my T do you remember that Michael. No I don't kind of sound like that. Yeah so CinemaCon happened.
[00:38:53] Yeah and they announced a few things they're going to Blumhouse is going to I don't know if they're going to reboot or do something with Blair Witch. Which we have interviews with the directors of Blair Witch on our website you should listen to them they're really good interviews.
[00:39:09] Yeah I think the making of Blair Witch is way better than the actual movie. I think the movie is obnoxious. But the story behind how they made it and how it became a hit is really cool.
[00:39:24] And it also kicked off the whole found footage thing and be limited narrative structure of that. The genre of film. But there's already remade it. It is interesting. So I don't know how they're going to remake it. I mean I would make a straight one.
[00:39:42] I wouldn't make it found footage. Would be how I would do it. So I would make it. Book of Shadows. I would make it so. Ambiagous. I'd make it some nasty ass. Witch in the fucking forest that rips people at half or something. That's what I was thinking.
[00:40:02] Are you listening. That's what I expected from the original. From the trailers like we're here to learn this lore about some. All these details about some legend or something and this is what just sticks tied together and. Screaming.
[00:40:19] And then for some reason the girl threw away their compass in their map. Oh my God. Remember when he was staring at the corner. That was so scary. I remember I didn't see it in the theaters. I rented it at Blockbuster. And I remember watching it.
[00:40:34] I go what a piece of shit. I never was scared. I never got that sense of dread. I mean it has often the I mean the filmmakers obviously do what they were doing. Attapt it into some sort of. I don't know you would call it but.
[00:40:52] It worked unlike anything. You know majority of audiences had ever seen before. True. So if you love Blair Witch well then good. Very effective trailer when you say like this is based on a true story when it's really not. Yep. Well they also did.
[00:41:10] You know you can listen to the interview with Dan Myrick. You know they launched the website and everything and. Maybe the first viral movie maybe. Viral campaign successful campaign for a movie. Yeah I think so.
[00:41:25] Because the website too would say that you know these people were missing and. So yeah it's a great marketing. Tool. You know what you could do to explain away like why she threw the map in the compass away is.
[00:41:38] She's devised this whole trip just to get back her shitty boyfriend. Yeah. It's like I know what will really screw them. Gonna murder him. I got something really grind his gears. Using his love for documentaries and horror.
[00:41:57] Hey babe I heard there's this this this Blair Witch thing we should go check it out. The. The lot of the buzz was around to all the animated films that are coming up this year.
[00:42:13] A lot of people are paging Pixar to have a bounce back year after a couple years of. Struggling which actually elementals made a lot of money quietly last year. But inside out to is their most popular trailer ever and. What I was reading.
[00:42:34] Variety about what they saw I think they showed something like 10 minutes of the film. I guess the whole theater was just laughing and having a good time so. Sounds like they have a they have a winner on their hands with that one. Moana to is coming out.
[00:42:48] There's that Lord of the Rings animated movie that I've never seen anything about but it keeps on saying it's coming out on Christmas. So yeah. Interesting stuff coming out of cinema con.
[00:43:02] Yeah I mean the stuff I'm most interested in seeing this year is already like in trailers so. It's gonna be interesting here.
[00:43:11] Yep because they also talked about how it's also a little quiet because of the writers and the actor strikes happening at the same time and it really kind of hamstrung. The release calendar but in a way I think it'll actually help Marvel. I'm still convinced that.
[00:43:30] Deadpool Wolverine is Deadpool going from multiverse to multiverse killing all the other multiverse stuff and kind of resetting the Marvel Universe. So basically like I think what they're going for with things like they're gonna do through like five movies for the Kang story line.
[00:43:48] They're just gonna do it with Deadpool in one movie. That's that's that's gonna be my guess. That's that's good getting back on track to. Just making good one offs that sort of connect. Yeah they're making yeah you know until they can find their next Thanos idea.
[00:44:11] Yeah I like all the most of the movie. Well I do like all the movies that have come out in this phase but I wanted to be more focused you know there's there's an end to it.
[00:44:21] Yeah like a lot of them there's just like a credit scene that just shows hey here's a new character in a costume. Not sure why or what it's building to you but there it is. It's in live action.
[00:44:33] See it be focused so enjoy this nerds like remember when Shank Shank Shank Chi came out and like. You got like D Hulk Bruce Banner back and they're talking about the rings and everything and then just like.
[00:44:42] We're like 10 movies away from that and like nothing's connected to it. I know and she was actually really fun. Yeah so hopefully they revisit that world because I was interested. We watched stuff throughout the week in a second I call what we've been watching.
[00:45:05] So yeah this is just so cool. I've been watching. So yeah this is just stuff we've been watching. Brad what you watched this week? Why is it the weeks we do film explosions are the weeks where I see just like a ton of stuff.
[00:45:22] I don't know you know I usually take a break kind of when we do film explosions. That's the opposite that's funny. Yeah I you know I watch some stuff but I play like video games and stuff like that. Yeah so I'll just rush through a couple of things.
[00:45:39] Going all the way back to Serpico saw that for the first time. Whoa Serpico! Be interested to see your take on it since you're an actual police officer. Yeah I've never seen it.
[00:45:53] Oh right then yeah it's for those listening at home it's from 1973 so you may not even ever heard about it but. You know I just remember it from James Allen Bob which you quoted.
[00:46:06] That's the first time I heard it but yeah it's about a real life cop in New York who was dealing with like a corrupt police force. And all the trouble that you know that going through that that that was.
[00:46:21] Yeah there's a great documentary I forget what it's called. It's about the corruption in New York City in like the early 80s. It's really fucking bad. They were taking drugs and dealing them to drug dealers and dealing them to drugs. They were their own gang yeah.
[00:46:37] Yeah it's a real thing. So yeah when you think of like grimy 80s New York that's a good portrait of it. The other thing I watched is supposedly a classic. For instance the movie called After Hours. Have you seen that one? No. I like the big Scorsese sound.
[00:47:03] I know I appreciate his place in in cinema history and everything but like you know After Hours is this thing like oh this is a Scorsese a great Scorsese that everyone's kind of slept on and nope.
[00:47:16] It's just weird and like the concept is great you know that this guy played by what's his name? Griffin Dunn. No Griffin Dunn. You'd think that. But no Griffin Dunn he's some Wall Street guy who's kind of a loop.
[00:47:37] Basically like the only grounded like resonant thing through the whole movie that I saw was that this guy never listens to anybody throughout the movie. He's like encountering all these people but he never he's always talking to them but never listening to what they have to say.
[00:47:53] Just like my wife. Hey yo. So yeah he just goes on these like weird like he gets off work and he's trying to relax and he just like runs into this woman played by Rosanna Arquette.
[00:48:07] And it just like starts at the string of like weird weird situations that he has to go through all he wants to do is get back to his apartment after meeting her doesn't work out.
[00:48:15] And yeah it's like these weird random things that don't like I don't know didn't seem like they meant anything and the only like smart thing about. Sure. That's yeah kind of yeah yeah. It's just like a bunch of random seeds.
[00:48:35] Yeah I'd like to someone who does like that movie. Tell me why they like it because it just seemed like a bunch of random nonsense. Yeah one great thing I saw was wicked little letters which Ryan it's British so definitely up your alley.
[00:48:57] Oh yeah you know how I love the fucking Brits. You do. You love your tea and crumpets. Fuck it.
[00:49:05] But no it is a fun movie about I think it's set in like 1910 1920 and there's this little town where this Irish woman moves in and her neighbor is a sweet middle aged lady who lives with her dad still and she is religious and she kind of presents like oh you know I'm a sweet religious person we accept everybody but
[00:49:32] the Irish lady who moves in is just like she's very nice and pleasant to everyone but she has the mouth of a sailor and so she doesn't fit in with this quiet little religious British town.
[00:49:47] I think I see the trailer for this was this a fantastic first food. Yeah maybe I saw the share of taste. I saw a trailer for it somewhere.
[00:49:57] But yeah so one day the nice British ladies getting these like filthy little letters that are like calling her a whore and all that and the town doesn't know who's doing it but you know if you're smart you kind of pretty obvious like the get go what's going on
[00:50:21] and then the rest of the movie is just you know it happens more and more and then the Irish lady gets arrested and taken away from her kid and there's a police force where an Indian woman her dad used to work there he died I think in the line of duty and she's taken over
[00:50:40] and because she's a woman in the police force 1920 she's a woman police officer like that's her title and yeah she wants to investigate further but the bumbling idiot men there won't let her do it and so she has to find her way around to help this woman who she thinks is innocent.
[00:51:00] Is it always astonishing when you think about that that was only 100 years ago? Yeah it really is like it's even more depressing that so much progress happened back then in 20 years and has is happening today.
[00:51:15] Yeah like you think about how's born in like 1982 and only 20 years before yeah like black people still couldn't there's still segregation that's just nuts. Yeah that's like being here today and looking back at me in high school it's insane.
[00:51:36] So yeah that was a lot of fun so I like that movie. I saw Death Spa just like a slucky horror where a gym spa really the whole gym is possessed and kills people. That's dumb stupid but kind of fun.
[00:51:59] I saw Monkey Man since I guess we're not going to probably do that as a weekly episode. Yeah because I fucked everyone over. I did but Spider-Man's a priority.
[00:52:10] Awesome action movie the dramatic part definitely is important as a story but I just didn't get into it like you could probably trim like 30 minutes of.
[00:52:22] So Dev Patel's character he's from the slums he gets a job in a restaurant watching dishes and just kind of rises up through the ranks.
[00:52:35] And meanwhile there's like this oppressive government there's election going on to pick like a new I don't know what their president prime minister I don't know.
[00:52:45] But the one in power is oppressive and his second hand like guy who runs the whole police force killed Dev Patel's mom back in the day.
[00:52:57] So he's on this revenge quest and there's always like dramatic moments that tie into like the history of India that kind of slow the movie down. But when the action gets going it's great. Nice. I saw 10 things I hate about you for the first time.
[00:53:12] Yeah it's got some weird dialogue but it's a weird snapshot of like it's a snapshot of like early 2000s late 90s teen comedy stuff that and that school is like what people actually go to that. Like that's a school an active school in Washington.
[00:53:35] Yeah kind of blew my mind. It's like a right next to the coast and like this weird Coliseum style like football half Coliseums football field. Yeah anyway. They're thinking of things on. Yeah there's a lot of like cringy parts too and yeah. Yeah I was indifferent to it.
[00:53:58] I saw pitch black so. My tears I love Vin Diesel the film that made Vin Diesel a star. Or was that fast of the first one. Yeah that does not age well especially like CGI wise. But even his character of a Riddick I don't know.
[00:54:23] Yeah well remember when we saw Riddick and they have that really misogynistic dialogue with that female character. That's the only thing I remember from it. This is the only Riddick movie I've ever seen. Oh yeah. We did Riddick for episode.
[00:54:42] We did but I think it was just you and James and I do remember talking about that. But yeah this is the first one I saw and it's just another shitty like 2000s monster movie where all the characters make dumb decisions and get slaughtered.
[00:54:57] Re-watch Taxi Driver this time in the theater and that's another meh for me. No Scorsese. You know just watching this guy. It's just a snapshot like I don't really get what the point of it is other than just like you're just watching. It's a vibe.
[00:55:18] And is anybody really even talking to him? I don't know. There's this one thing of Scorsese accent it twice which I didn't know before or at least I don't remember knowing before.
[00:55:31] When Sybil Shepard like first appears he's like sitting on the side of the street just like staring at her in the slow-mo shot like in the background. And then of course he's in the backseat of the cab when he's like stalking his wife as that other character.
[00:55:45] But yeah if I was a cinema purist and paying attention to like the movie being linear and making sense it would not make sense that there's unless that guy is twins. It would normally be considered a flub or a blooper or something.
[00:56:06] He's definitely the worst part of Killers of the Flower Moon. Gosh I have so much left. Yeah I saw Spring Breakers that was meant. I did not again another like vibe movie of just like these girls being shitty and being criminals and loving Spring Break Super a lot.
[00:56:31] Yeah and then I saw a documentary called Carol Paraldota Topless at the Condor at the Esquire which is about a woman in San Francisco who was like a club dancer.
[00:56:48] And the documentary seems like she was like the first person to go topless in a club and that kind of introduced like strip clubs to California or whatever.
[00:56:59] And it's interesting but like that's really all there is to it and it's kind of seems like it's supposed to be a documentary of her life.
[00:57:09] But I'd say like two or three fourths of it are like the 60s and 70s and then they wrap up her life in like two minutes at the end of like it's basically she got old and died probably the 80s onward you know.
[00:57:28] Yeah but kind of interesting a little slice of the country at that time that I didn't know that much about. Are we going to do a Civil War show? I don't know yeah maybe probably not. I'll talk about it anyway in case we don't.
[00:57:50] Yeah I saw Civil War thankfully not the movie expected it to be very neutral. It's all about the journalists they really don't dive into like specific politics on anything very fictionalized.
[00:58:05] But really only the good thing about it is like the tension like it creates a lot of great tension. Make sure really uncomfortable throughout the movie and the action sequences are pretty good but yeah the story was like meh okay.
[00:58:20] Some of these journalists are shitty opportunists and other ones are you know doing their job properly and everything and not and respecting the people there taking photos of so yeah I think it's interesting. The last thing I watched was I finally got it in the mail joysticks.
[00:58:43] Oh shit. Yeah which is a 1983 another dumb 80s comedy where the plot is yeah they have a video arcade and there's a guy in town who thinks the video arcade is like not appropriate for kids.
[00:58:58] It's this wild video arcade that they got to shut down because it's the root of all sin in the town it's going to corrupt their kids.
[00:59:03] It starts Joe Don Baker as that guy who's like powerful businessman who hates it his daughter goes to this video arcade and hangs out with all these. You know gross nerds and jacks and in dweebs and punks.
[00:59:22] And he's trying to get shut down and meanwhile which is a. His name. Jeff. His last name doesn't matter Jeff runs the arcade. That he's he. Tell me he needs to come up with like $5,000 in a week or it's closed.
[00:59:41] He doesn't he just has to like prove to the town council that this stuff doesn't happen there. So he plots to frame Joe Don Baker.
[00:59:51] By luring him into the arcade and then taking a salacious photo of them around like all the topless girls that hang out there and everything and then show to the town council to be like see he's the one who's actually the hypocrite here. So yeah he like.
[01:00:08] The movie starts Uncle Rico's in it he plays King Vidiot one of the punkers who. Hangs out the theater but he's not welcome there because I don't know. And then there's a.
[01:00:21] What's the character McDorfus he's basically the blue of the crew who's really good at the games but he's gross to be around. Who else. Yeah it's a.
[01:00:38] The arcade is like arcade you would never see anywhere it's really like they have like the big screen video games with like one giant joystick. 30 years before that's a thing. And they're all Pac-Man like every game is Pac-Man basically with reskin graphics except for. What's it called.
[01:01:05] Something hollow ghost hollow or something apparently that was a game that Nintendo was like coming out with that they loaned to the movie before it came out. I don't think that's true but that's what the director said in the commentary because I was like.
[01:01:22] He even refers to Pac-Man as a Nintendo game I was like that's an Amco game buddy. Yeah. Way to do research director. Yeah.
[01:01:31] But yeah it's just one of those movies where it's just like targeted to kids in the 80s and like most of the girls are topless most of the time. And. Yeah like. McDorf is just farts to get out of situations. Yeah. Oh. The guy who owns the yeah.
[01:01:54] Jefferson Bailey. Who runs the he his big back story is he can't play the he runs the arcade but he can't play the games because he has a traumatic game related past. And.
[01:02:06] The traumatic thing is that he was hooking up with his girl in his like video game room and her dad came in and like slapped her around. And from then on he couldn't play the video games.
[01:02:18] So when he's challenged at the end to do a rival video game challenge that's his struggle is flashing back at night. Yeah. But then his grandfather shows up in a wheelchair and he's found her she's come back into the town away from her father and everything's good again.
[01:02:38] Nice. It's stupid and great. At the same time. Yeah that's all I watch. So much. I'm sorry. I watched Fitz Willy which is a. And I love that movie. It was really charming and fun. He's great in it. I don't remember.
[01:03:06] I don't remember much because I watched it like on Netflix. I don't know like 12 15 years ago. Yeah. Yeah. He plays a butler who also runs a crime ring.
[01:03:19] But they only steal from other rich people to fund the lifestyle of this woman who husband was supposed to be super rich and take care of her. But it turns out he was broke. So Fitz Willy's dad was the butler before too.
[01:03:43] So he steals from other rich people to generate money so this woman can live the lifestyle that her deceased husband intended for her to live. That's right. Yeah. So he's like he's basically becoming her benefactor for all the years that he's employed her.
[01:04:03] And then they have kind of an Ocean's Eleven huge caper at the end to get $100,000 from a department store. It is just a really fun movie. And I had a blast watching it because it's definitely in Dick Van Dyke's Will House. He's funny.
[01:04:24] There's some physical comedy in it and he's charming. It's a fun movie. It's one that I got last year for Kino Lorber's sale and I'm doing this thing where I just randomly assigned numbers to all the Blu-rays that I own that I haven't watched.
[01:04:44] And it picked that one so I was excited. I also rewatched Deliver Us From Evil which is a Scott Derrickson film from Colorado. He directed Sinister and he is a writer on a lot of things. It is Eric Banda plays New York Police Department Sergeant.
[01:05:07] He's investigating these men who came back from the Middle East from the war and they're behaving in unusual ways and it leads into kind of a possession movie. Well made. If I had one complain, there's nothing really shocking or that memorable about the horror aspect.
[01:05:37] But there's a couple police officer moments that they get right about the toll that the job takes on you if you don't take care of yourself. So it can be a little more evil? Yes. So it is interesting seeing that again.
[01:05:54] And then I also watched Attack the Block which that movie came out in 2011. Can you believe that? And when you see John Boyega, he looks like a teenager in it because he is.
[01:06:12] But just super young and I mean the films about these aliens that crash into a thing they call the block in England which I'm guessing is their project projects where people that don't have as much money live in these not nice apartments.
[01:06:33] And there's an allegory there of the police that helping them. But they're also criminals. But they're a product of being in the block but they have to want to protect it too and the monsters. I forgot how gory it was.
[01:06:53] I hadn't seen it in a really long time. Yeah, I haven't seen it since 2011 I think. Yeah, it's the first time I saw it since the theaters is one of those. I don't know why I didn't get it on Blu-ray when it came out.
[01:07:04] But it's another one that when I saw it used I got because it was like four or five dollars. And I still really liked it. I liked it when I saw it and I liked it when I watched it again. The creatures right there are pretty creative.
[01:07:18] And there's some really cool visual things and some of the gang members, the kids meet some pretty gruesome death. They don't pull punches just because they're younger kids.
[01:07:31] I think I passed on the Blu-ray when it came out but I think because I thought there would be a better version because it was such a cult hit. Yeah, so it's an early Blu-ray and there is some crushing of the black.
[01:07:44] And it kind of gets speckled throughout so it definitely doesn't have a very high resolution if that makes sense. If they made a 4K of it and they smoothed it out it would look amazing.
[01:07:57] And the last thing I watched I actually saw in the theaters yesterday before we saw Spider-Man. The 45th anniversary of Dawn of the Dead was playing at Alamo and it was cool to watch it again.
[01:08:12] I had seen it a really long time and it's still one of my most favorite horror movies. Had you seen the theater before? No, I had never seen it in the theater so I was pretty excited to see it in the theater as well.
[01:08:24] The only bummer was there was this couple in there that was laughing all the time at stupid things. And I don't know if it's because they were uncomfortable with the horror aspect of it.
[01:08:37] Because the thing with Romero films is there some acting in it that's not the best? Because he makes independent films so they're not all going to be accomplished actors. But all the films have this uncomfortableness about the film.
[01:08:54] There's a social commentary usually and there's always this looming sense of dread. Even though what people think of zombies nowadays with the walking dead or Dawn of the Dead remake where they're all crazy running zombies wasn't a thing back then.
[01:09:13] So the film is a sequel to Night of the Living Dead and it opens with the beginning of the plague and what people are doing and how they're going to get out of their situation.
[01:09:27] The police go to a project and it's full of Puerto Ricans and African Americans. So they're there to bust somebody but they find out that the dead have infiltrated it too. Yeah, I mean the gore effects are obviously the highlight of it too.
[01:09:51] It's kind of silly cartoon color though. The blood looks like paint. The zombies have a blue tint to them. But yeah, the movie is great. I hadn't seen it in a while and I forgot how propulsive it was and how it moves really quickly.
[01:10:11] But I think it's over two hours but it definitely doesn't feel like it. There's a lot happening in it and yeah, it's just a really great movie. Have you seen the original Dawn of the Dead? I think I have. I don't remember. Maybe it's the one from like 85.
[01:10:29] The day of the dead? That's probably what I'm thinking of. I did pick that for one of our films of the week during COVID. Yeah, that's probably it then. Yeah, well Dawn of the Dead, they go to a mall and it's... Yeah, I saw the Zack Snyder remake.
[01:10:47] Yeah, in this one it's like a take on consumerism. They mentioned that why are they coming to the mall and it's because it's something they once did and they don't know.
[01:10:57] And yeah, this one, where Dawn, a day of the dead, you don't really like the characters at all. This one has likable characters. I mean my favorite... Well, I mean it's 45 years old.
[01:11:13] There's a part at the end where one guy is going to kill himself but then he realizes that he wants to live and they play this... I don't know what...
[01:11:23] I want to say it's like if I had to pick a 1979 theme for Captain America, it would be this theme. Because the music does not fit the rest of the movie.
[01:11:33] It's like he decides he's not going to shoot himself and then he jumps down and starts punching zombies. And it goes... I guess like A-team. Yeah, it's like A-team theme.
[01:11:46] And that's what he does and it's like really out of place but it works really well and you laugh at it because he's... How he's just like kicking zombies and knocking them over and shit. But it's fun. Definitely check it out. That's all I watched.
[01:12:03] Next week, we're seeing Abigail. It will be our film of the week. Okay. Yep. I want to see it by the Radio Silence guys. I heard it's really good. Right now, Ron Tomatoes is at 93%. So... Yeah, that was fun. I liked Ready or Not so...
[01:12:25] Yeah, it kind of looks like a vampire version of it. It's by the same premise. But I want to see it so that's what we're doing. Yeah, real quick I have to mention I'll be up in Wyoming for Wyoming Popcon.
[01:12:40] And yeah, that'll be the last weekend of April so come say hi. Yeah, we'll have stuff there. Well you'll have stuff there. I'll be working. Just me. So if you've always wanted to meet Brad, just take out. I'll be there representing. I do, I do.
[01:12:59] Thanks for doing that Brad. Yeah, I need a little weekend excursion so... Interesting. It's in Casper, Wyoming so... I'll have a Wyoming fans. Check it out. Heck yeah. Until next week, we'll see you out at the movies. Follow us on Facebook, Real Nerds Podcast.
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