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[00:01:22] Hey, what's up? Oh you know, just trying to get over what you've subjected me to after- you said 11 years, I thought it's been since we started the podcast. It's 11 years for the podcast. I saw it before James saw it, so for me it was 12 years.
[00:01:42] Gotcha. So yeah, you forced me to kidnap me, show me up at my house, drag me to the movie. That is quite possibly considered one of the worst movies of all time. The Room. Tommy Wiseau's The Room.
[00:02:00] Me, I kind of qualify it because Bre Larson made a really great movie called Room that sometimes gets confused with it. And won an Oscar for it. Yeah. I can't believe Tommy Wiseau didn't win an Oscar. He's going to get a lifetime achievement in Oscar. Pretty sure.
[00:02:19] I mean he did not hit us. I did not. Oh, hi Mark. I'd like to thank the Academy for this. So stay tuned. I will recommend the film or not, and then play the trailer.
[00:02:36] I mean I guess you could spoil a movie that's not only... What did it come out? 2001? 2002? 2003 I think. So yeah, so a movie that's 20 years old or over 20 years old. And then we'll talk about it.
[00:02:51] Now there is a caveat to this Brad. The reason you wanted me to see it is you said you have to see it with an audience. Because the audience at the wonderful Esquire Theater in Denver has rituals for this film.
[00:03:06] And you said don't watch it without the audience the first time because it'll be a slog. And are you telling the truth? Well let's find out. Brad, do you recommend The Room? Only if you watch it with an audience.
[00:03:28] Yeah, I can't imagine watching this by yourself alone at home would... You would not see what everyone else sees in this movie that way. So yeah, if you're going to watch it, at least... It's a good party movie.
[00:03:49] Just put it on with friends and have a good time making fun of it. Huh, did I enjoy this movie? I did not! But I will say you're 100% correct. At least the audience made it fun.
[00:04:08] And we'll get into that. Let's... Yeah, watching this movie without an audience, I wouldn't do it at all.
[00:04:16] But the trailer has to be high quality. If the editing and everything else in the movie is what I saw in the actual movie, then the trailer I'm sure is quality. Here's a trailer for The Room. He provides for you. Darling, you can't support yourself.
[00:04:59] I don't love him anymore. He didn't get his promotion and he got drunk last night. And he hit me. It's not true. Did I hit you? Well maybe you should have a girl, Mark. Yeah, yeah, maybe you're right. Maybe I have one already. I don't know yet.
[00:05:16] We can't do this anymore. Johnny's my best friend. This will be our secret. Don't worry. You can trust me. We are expecting! I'm your future husband. You sure about that? Please talk to me, please! You're having a fair of a Lisa, aren't you?
[00:05:33] I need more from life than what Johnny can give me. She's an associate pack. She can't love anyone. There is no baby. I told him that to make it interesting. She's such a manipulative witch! You're hurting yourself. You're hurting our friendship.
[00:05:46] I treat you like a princess. And you stop me with that. You're tearing me apart, Lisa! Hey, Danny. Where's my money, Danny? Put the gun down. What the hell is wrong with you? Shut up! Go. What the heck? It's not fit out of this world.
[00:06:16] I'll just give a basic premise of the moon. The room. Tommy Wiseau is some sort of successful banker who's in line for a promotion. He loves his girlfriend, Lisa. But for some reason, Lisa fucking hates his guts. Because he's not getting the promotion, dude. Yeah, I know.
[00:06:40] But they write him as this guy who takes in an orphan who's, I don't know, 50 years old. Pays for his college. His friend's really nice to him. And then for some reason, unbeknownst to me. Because I didn't understand.
[00:06:59] When you're watching the film, when they start rolling the credits, people boo the lady who plays Lisa. And I go, why are they booing her? And cheering everybody else. And then I watch the movie and I'm like, oh, she's a horrible fucking person. Yeah. Did I miss?
[00:07:15] I mean, you've seen it. How many times have you seen it, Brad? At least 16. Am I missing something in her character arc where she just like flips a switch and hates them all of a sudden? Nope. No. Okay. She flip-flops a couple times in that movie actually.
[00:07:33] She does. It's weird. Her mom shows up and they have these really weird conversations. And then, well, what's fun about the audience is they kind of point out the absurdity in the film. Her mom and her have these scenes where they have these, you know,
[00:07:52] hey, you know, he's a good person. Don't treat him wrong. Don't mess up your life. Well, I'm going to go. Go what? Yeah. They will pop in to have a quick chat and then they just leave in a popular thing to say, like, you just got here.
[00:08:09] Or are they pop in to have sex? I think that's my favorite part of the, I have a couple of favorites with the audience, a lot of, who are you? Yep. Random people who are not formally introduced appear in the movie. And yeah, there's four sex scenes.
[00:08:27] They're just like a slog. One of them is just recycled footage from the other one. Yeah, it's, yeah, it's a mess. So anyway, so Tommy still wants to marry her for some reason. They've been together either seven years or nine years depending on where
[00:08:49] you are in the movie. I mean, it's what's so funny about it is, and here's the thing is I don't know anything about Tommy Weasel, but my guess is he does. He's definitely an immigrant to America.
[00:09:02] He decided that he was going to make a movie and he realized his dream. And now he's gained this cult status because the movie is so bad. So there is a part of me that is somewhat, I respect him for doing
[00:09:17] what he wanted to do because he's the writer, the director, the producer. So he, I mean, he made it. You know what I mean? Yeah. So there's definitely that element to the film. But obviously he's an amateur is the room his first movie. I believe so.
[00:09:38] Because obviously no one's editing him because and checking what he's writing, you know, there's a part where the he and his friends get ready for the wedding midway through the film. And it seems like they're going to go to the wedding, but they just
[00:10:02] play football in the streets and then they're not married. And they're still waiting for this party that Lisa's put on for Tommy. It's his birthday. Yeah. Oh, that's right. It is his birthday. Oh, but I left out in a crucial part when asked what his job
[00:10:21] is by his friend Mark. Open Mark. He says, you know, I can't tell you what I do. I work for a bank and very important. Yeah. Talk about the clients. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I can talk about that mark.
[00:10:37] But it's so funny about the dialogue and the script is we'll have a moment where they'll talk about one thing and then instantly talk about something else. Yeah. Yeah. I don't understand. So he hooks up a tape recorder to the phone somehow.
[00:11:00] I mean, it's helped by the audience singing the Mission Impossible theme. Yep. But he's also before that he saw Mark and Lisa like talking about how much of a loser Tommy is. Yep. Or Johnny. But then later after this huge party where he sees them do
[00:11:23] this movie, I can't like you're jumping around so much. I know. Well, because it doesn't make any sense. I think what's important is did you have fun? I did. It's not so much about the movie itself. Like we all watched it.
[00:11:40] You know, it's like a hard process and people alleviate that difficulty by just making fun out of it. Yeah, you know, it's just fun because once you get into, you know me, I'm not a big fan of people talking in films,
[00:11:59] but you need to in this one and you need to have stupid shit happening constantly, you know? Yeah. And the thing that I haven't seen before is those guys who brought the pillows into it and then had the pillow fight in the audience during like the bed scene.
[00:12:14] Like that was a new one. Hey, at this time, a lot of people ran up to be looked at by Johnny. Yeah, because the guy who always sits in the front row middle seat got out ahead of everything.
[00:12:28] So like, yeah, I think people were able to spot it sooner whereas me who sits in the wings all the time in the dark, you know, probably like left people like what's that guy doing? Yeah. There's like some random running from like halfway through the back. Yeah.
[00:12:50] But yeah, so there's a bunch of people. So hopefully that played well for everyone else. It was fun. You know, I, the constant yelling of water and where are we? Spoon. Yeah. Park that car. Yeah. It's just the movie is so bad that it just begs to be
[00:13:11] seen with an audience. You know, where you see Avengers Endgame with an audience and the experience is so great because everybody's invested in the characters and when someone dies people cry here. People are invested in how shitty it is.
[00:13:28] And what I loved is people have seen it enough to create basically a community of other people to go along with their chanting, you know, when it pans across the city and they go, go, go, go, go. The cameraman who can't focus or the cinematographer. Yeah.
[00:13:53] Fuck you, Todd. Yeah, people yelling at his name. Yeah. You know, he's his best friend. Yeah. Count how many times he says anyone in the movie says but he's your best friend. Yeah. They used to count them, but people now they just
[00:14:10] say like he's your best friend because I think people lose track of him. You count how many times they throw the football to each other. Like they count like each pass. Yep. Yeah. There's not so great stuff like misogynistic comments they make towards Lisa. Oh yeah.
[00:14:28] Like her being ugly or. But I mean, she's also not a great character. Yeah. But yeah, character wise, yeah, but as a person too, like if she was in the audience that would suck. You know, I was curious about that when people
[00:14:43] boo her and if she goes to these screenings and she's just devastated every time she goes. I think I saw some documentary or something where like she hasn't participated in any of this since the movie. Like it was like one and done for her.
[00:14:59] Yeah, it's hard because she's something she had a great time filming it either. Well, yeah, her character is poorly written, makes horrible decisions as a horrible person and she's naked in it a lot. I can see how you're probably don't want to be around that movie anymore. Yeah.
[00:15:19] Yeah, because even in characters motivations change constantly. Yeah, first. Yeah, for somebody who hates Johnny so much like she's really upset when he shoots himself in the head. I know. And that's like maybe the like saddest part of the movie is why did he kill himself? Yeah.
[00:15:38] Yeah, just because like, yeah, obviously she's a disaster artist. He's a big fan of like Rebel Aila Cause and whatnot. Yeah. Just has to take the most dramatic take possible. Like you said before, you know, is this his first movie?
[00:15:53] It's also like, you know, they say don't turn in your first draft like we write it a couple times. I think just, you know, in the indie circuit, you know, self financing and everything, you know, no one said no. And he was the guy with all the money.
[00:16:07] So yeah, people had to go along with it. So yeah, because even have I the one guy they don't even say who his name is. I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be Peter who couldn't come back. Yep. The scenes because it's like he's invested in it.
[00:16:24] And as an actor, he's actually not that bad. But his dialogue has no context because you're supposedly knows these people really well, but you've never seen him in the movie before. Yeah. Gotten half the dialogue is just like, why are you doing this?
[00:16:42] You're going to break up our friend group. I mean, my favorite part is the random drug dealer that shows up for Chris are. Yeah. Who's like the most serious actor in the movie. Like you should be on an episode of law and order or something. Yeah.
[00:17:01] And everyone's yelling at Danny. Why are you doing this? Why? How many drugs did you take? They don't even specify what drugs he's taking just that he's done it. He's just done drugs. Yeah. Yeah. You're not my fucking mother. That's a great deal.
[00:17:23] I was wondering to watch Napoleon Dynamite after I watched this too because there's a scene where Lisa calls Mark and he says, I just want to see you and Mark's line is, I thought you like 15 minutes ago. I know.
[00:17:41] Like they were just at the on the rooftop scene together. Yeah. They were talking about something Napoleon going, I already told you, gosh. Totally. What I wanted to do. The funny thing is when they haul off Chris are they like presumably they take him to
[00:17:59] the police office which must be on the same block. I guess. Or it's like in the basement of the building. Yeah. I think they come back and say something. I forget what it is but just like alludes to the fact that you were gone for a long time.
[00:18:13] Like no, you weren't good for a long time. Yeah. Because that's such a weird scene too because it comes out of nowhere. And then Johnny and Mark beat him up and drag him down the stairs. And then he comes back up and he says, you
[00:18:27] know, Danny, I'll do anything for you. That's why I pay for your college. Yeah. Fuck this. Go on. Yeah. I can't even keep the scene straight because I couldn't. I mean, you've seen it more than I have but it just seems everything was so editable.
[00:18:45] They can't keep one way or another. Well, I think they probably didn't shoot some of the movies that they just put together as much as they could. Yeah. I think they had that falling out towards the end of it. Like, yeah, it's like moving.
[00:19:01] You get to the very end and it's just like the tedious most slog of stuff. So I think that's probably what happened shooting. It was like, eventually a lot of people just like bailed because they saw how shitty he was being. Yeah.
[00:19:15] So is he supposedly hard to work with? I mean, I don't know anything about it. I mean, I've seen The Disaster Artist but I don't know anything beyond that. I have no knowledge of who he is. I've read the book and it's pretty much
[00:19:27] like the movie but Tommy's just such a mysterious guy. You can't look up his age online or where he's from. I have met him briefly when he's come to the Esquire and you know, he had a Q&A once and he just kind of talked about stuff
[00:19:44] you already know about the movie and then he had like a Q&A and people just asked him anything and a lot of questions are just like would you be half man or half sausage type questions and he just thought I'd be a tiger.
[00:19:56] Or he'd be like or he'd shoot down a question and be like that's dumb. I'm moving on. Next one. Oh shit. Yeah. And no one really knows where his friend comes from. He hasn't sold it in a while but the early ones I used to go to he
[00:20:12] would sell like his premium underwear and jeans and belts and stuff so I think he has a history in like the fashion industry and you know I don't want to assume anything but I kind of get the feeling like you know watching the disaster is in this like
[00:20:28] he might have like been in also Big Shark. He might have been in some kind of a way and like he just has a brain injury. And so like that might be where the accent or whatever comes from and is like demeanor. Gotcha. Yeah it's an odd movie.
[00:20:47] I mean I mean he's also like fucking her stomach or something in the sex scenes. Yeah just trying to avoid like like yeah. I guess grinding against her. You know most movies have you seen intimacy pillows or something like that? Or intimacy coordinators yeah
[00:21:07] but that was like free that was like out of COVID and everything. Yeah. So yeah this is yeah 20 years ago so I think it was just a matter of like everyone's just like not professionals and he doesn't know how to direct and so it was just like
[00:21:25] you know I don't want to And if you ever wondered if there should be intimacy directors on sets like the room and you can see why they're necessary. Yeah. Yeah it's like man that must not have been fun for them doing that stuff.
[00:21:43] Any smart person would just cut those scenes like they're just not essential to the movie at all. No it's literally just a way to the next scene. It's just a way to get boobs in the movie. Yeah.
[00:21:57] I don't know if it was a malicious I think it was just like other movies you've seen that does that. Yeah I don't think it was malicious I think it's just a way to have in the film and you the writing and editing and directing process seemed to
[00:22:15] struggle with if there was a good idea to continue to have it in the film. Yeah. There's so many like adult movies in like the 90s that just had unnecessary sex scenes that doesn't through you just like oh I'm gonna copy what I've seen. Mm-hmm.
[00:22:31] Yeah I don't disagree. But I think the next thing I kind of want to see it in a different city to see if people do the same stuff. You know someone should make it documentary about the live experience of the room because I haven't seen that
[00:22:47] yet and see if it's like different across the country. Well I mean you're a filmmaker Brad I'm just saying. I could do that. You need some traveling money. Oh picture your idea to someone and they might you know help you with that
[00:23:03] I don't know I don't know how to do that. Speaking of traveling so coincidentally now the room is now showing soon I think March at the draft house with Greg Cistero in person. Oh really? So if that's something you want to experience I'll have to think about it.
[00:23:23] I was thinking about it and I was like I can't remember if the draft house audience does the same thing. Like I only remember because when they have it like Greg's there or Tommy's there and so I remember those parts but for life of me I cannot
[00:23:39] picture sitting in the theater watching the movie if people do the commentary or not. Yeah it's probably because you've seen it so many times. It's just a blur. I think I'd remember that at the Alamo but I just remember the in person stuff
[00:23:59] so I don't know if it's an Esquire only thing or not. I mean it can't be there has to be a reason because it plays all over the place there has to be something with it you know. Yeah imagine like someone from who saw an LA
[00:24:17] had a bunch of screenings and developed all these things I imagine that person moved to Denver and then started doing it at the Esquire and I think that's how it got there but it would be even more amazing if what we're talking about is Denver specific.
[00:24:31] You should just put the question out on social media and see how it responds or if it gains any traction. Maybe I don't know. Yeah I don't know either. I'd pretend to be Mark when he's talking to Peter or no he's like on the rooftop and
[00:24:53] maybe you should get yourself a girl Mark like maybe I do. Oh yeah. Almost kills a guy and then Peter's just like nah it's okay man brush it off. It's what you do right you try to kill your friends. Yeah we've had arguments where I've tried to throw
[00:25:09] it out for a movie before. That is true I mean I did get thrown off the roof by you one time but luckily you threw me right into a dumpster so it was good. That was lucky yeah I did not expect that dumpster to be there.
[00:25:23] The dumpster full of pillows. Yeah so don't throw out all those pillows it's crazy. So you're lucky bro if you could have killed me I would have come back and haunted you. Anyways the movie is awful even it's hard to get past because it's so bad sometimes
[00:25:45] you can watch a movie but if I was going to say anything I would definitely see it with an audience and experience it with them because it was lots of fun. So remember every last Friday at the Esquire here in Denver you can experience this like we did
[00:26:03] and you won't be sorry I mean I took my wife Oh yeah I forgot about that. I was surprised she wanted to come with us because I told her I asked her you know I said do you work on Friday and she said no.
[00:26:19] I said okay well I'm going to go see this really horrible movie with Brad and she says can I come? I said do you want to? And she said well what movie it is I said The Room and then she asked what that was
[00:26:35] and I said well it's the movie that was made that the disaster artist is based off of basically what we're both saying is that it's total garbage but it's fun to see people be silly and stuff I saw her lean over to you sometimes
[00:26:51] I thought she was just falling asleep like she checked out pretty early She probably did and you know she's notorious for sleeping during movies Yeah that's cool I didn't know she hadn't seen it before I figured she might have Yeah because it was kind of getting
[00:27:09] popular when she was in college Yeah but you know she had fun and that's the secret in anything is having fun I guess my other question is unlike me you had the experience of watching the disaster artist first so I'm curious like do you have any expectations
[00:27:29] that it didn't meet? It was way more incompetently made than I thought it was going to be Wow because disaster artists you know it really just takes the big highlighted scenes you know you're tearing me apart Lisa and kind of build scenes around them and then
[00:27:57] when you watch the movie there's another you know 80 minutes of the movie you have to endure which is really really brutal Yeah but I mean you warned me enough and I knew it wasn't going to be a great movie but it is a good
[00:28:15] experience if that makes any sense the movie is not great but the experience seeing it with a live audience is pretty great Yeah That's the first way I saw it and yeah after I was done I was like
[00:28:31] well I guess I kind of saw it on Adult Swim when they did it at April Fool's prank I didn't watch the whole thing I was just like what the fuck is this where's Aqua Teen and then after like 5 minutes it was like oh moving on
[00:28:43] and then later I learned the mystique of the whole thing and I saw the live stuff and I was like oh this is what this is why the prank is here so Yeah Yep so yeah that was my experience with the room
[00:29:03] I don't know why it's called the room either It takes place in a room Yeah it takes place in a couple rooms I like the back door they have that like from one scene they come through and they just go right back out the front door
[00:29:19] You know my favorite part is when they're at the party and Lisa says this is getting hot in here everybody let's go outside and everybody goes outside and then she pulls Mark back in and they have a passionate kiss
[00:29:33] where that one guy who you don't know who he is he says what's going on here Johnny's a good man Why are you doing this You know it's just because he didn't get the promotion at the bank that's not his fault it's politics Dude
[00:29:51] the women in this movie explicitly said like marriage is not about love it's about taking care of yourself and I mean he had to deal with the disability of not knowing how a chicken sounds chicken chicken I mean as this is going on
[00:30:11] I don't think that's how chickens sound but how do chickens, how would you I guess bach bach bach I guess is the universal baby chicks yeah chicken chicken chicken you remember when Danny and Lisa had that one on one sitting on the floor for no reason yep
[00:30:33] where that one part where he was just looking out the window Mark's talking to him like he's expecting Crisar to come back or something I did laugh out loud when you yelled how old are you to Danny that was funny that's not mine, I've heard that before
[00:30:51] but still it's like he acts like he's a teenager but he has his own apartment and goes to college so I guess he's in his 20s I don't know I think the actor is actually in his 30s and that's why people say it
[00:31:07] because if you look at him now it's like God you were Danny like 20 years ago like I can't process like you look like you're 50 who are you how old are you yeah I'm like the mom like every time someone touches her they get cancer yeah
[00:31:27] and she just casually just points out no one listens to me and I'm dying I definitely have breast cancer that was a weird scene I got the results back and I have breast cancer Mom you'll be fine but what about you and Johnny what
[00:31:47] let's just move past this yep and he hit me I don't love him anymore and he hit me which how does he know like he never said that who told him like the mom never confronts him like yeah
[00:32:05] my daughter told me you hit her like that never happens and then he she told her one friend too what is going on with this movie anyway so yeah see it with a live audience I guess if you're glutton for punishment see it by yourself
[00:32:27] Peter do you have any advice for me I could use the advice of a psychologist and like I don't know that's really this I think only a psychologist could answer that well you're a psychologist Peter I don't like that I remember what you got Johnny drunk too
[00:32:45] he knows he doesn't drink that's good scotch and vodka mixed together scotchka scotchka yeah I'm tired I'm wasted make love to me Johnny she's pretty good when I can get it like dude we just saw you get it like twice no doubt
[00:33:14] I don't think that's an issue with Lisa yeah I can't but then Mark's like yeah I think it was Betty like yeah we just didn't like she wasn't getting better or whatever and but yeah she met this other guy
[00:33:32] and he beat her and he's like that's a great story Mark yeah an appropriate response yeah that's right there's so much to unpack in the movie yeah the person at the flower shop like when Tommy shows up and she's like oh Johnny I didn't see you
[00:33:52] like how could you not see that guy or recognize him yeah he literally walked straight towards her and he's Tommy Rizzo like how do you not recognize that guy and his the ADR did not attach whatever she was saying in the original script
[00:34:08] original shoot I don't know what's going on there's the flowers you ordered that's me bye doggy I like to everyone's like shut up you want to hear the bye doggy line there was a like a good 10-20 minutes in the movie that they um was quiet
[00:34:28] you could usually hear a lot of the dialogue over the crowd and someone came back from the back and I think they boosted it halfway through so I think you missed a lot of good stuff in the beginning but yeah anywho uh I don't know any big
[00:34:48] movie news of the week so I'm just skipping right into what we've been watching so uh yeah this is the stuff we've been watching oh hi Brad what'd you watch this week oh hi Ryan I watched uh two things um
[00:35:10] did I talk about the live action Oscar shorts last week? uh no okay so I saw the live action and the animated uh I thought the live action was the best of the the selections um the live action has the Wes Anderson short
[00:35:26] the wonderful life of Henry Sugar which is like wow like I liked it more than Astrid City it's it's short um so it's not like a full movie but like he tells like this epic sorry he tells this epic story in such a minimalist way that's also like
[00:35:46] super creative um and you can watch this on Netflix if you want to see it like by not going to the theater but um I was just blown away like with how creative it is um and it's about this guy who's like just kind of like a rich
[00:35:58] playboy who eventually um through his like little uh pranks or whatever um discovers like this uh way to like use your mind to like get what you want and then by the end of it he just wants to help the world so I thought that was really cool
[00:36:14] um and then there's this other one that was um it's called red white and blue and like it's got this twist that just blew me away because the whole movie you're just watching this waitress and you know she needs to get an abortion and so you're
[00:36:28] just kind of watching her figure out how to like cross state lines to get it and so you're like oh like that's the thing is like how difficult it's gonna be for her to get it's like a commentary on you know 2023 um and she takes her
[00:36:40] daughter with her and I don't know if I I really want to say the twist but I probably shouldn't but just like they have like a little buddy road trip together and when they finally get there there's this twist that's just like oh
[00:36:52] that's why this movie is in here um it was like wow how did I not see that coming that was incredible um so yeah that was good and then um the animated shorts really short this like the whole thing's like 88 minutes um they had to add two movies
[00:37:10] that aren't Oscar nominated to it just like fill out the runtime um but the two that uh were most interesting were uh there's this one where it's it's animated on the unreal engine and it's like these two warring factions
[00:37:26] and two of the soldiers are playing from either side are playing chess against each other and they send like a home uh a messaging pigeon uh each of the moves and as they do it like the other soldiers kind of get in as spectators um
[00:37:40] and then eventually like the commander comes in he's like you know breaks everyone up and sends them out to war and then the two chess players meet each other on the battlefield and then they're like they're you know realize who they are um
[00:37:54] because the one dude's been storing all the paper in his pocket and so it comes out and they realize who they are and then um yeah they just like don't want to kill each other and then they have to like dissolve the rest of the battle
[00:38:06] uh so that was really cool and then uh the one before I just I'm suddenly just blanking I can't remember what it was but I think that was the best one if I can look it up real quick yeah I was thinking about taking my kid
[00:38:18] to the animated short thing they're pretty dark dark like uh the one in there's one I fell sleep in and it was about uh like an elderly guy he's in a classroom like all the art is in all these is great
[00:38:34] but yeah the the letter to a pig like um it's an elderly elderly guy in a classroom of kids who don't care about what he's talking about but he's talking about like uh like a genocide that he had to endure um yeah and then this one called Pack-a-derm
[00:38:48] and uh no one talks but visually you find out that the grandfather's been raping his granddaughter oh yeah maybe I won't take my kid to those yeah the first one our uniform was really creative because it's all animated on denim so it's all these paintings on
[00:39:04] uh jeans basically about um an Iranian woman who just wants to be free but has to wear the the was the hijab all the time so um but the the other really cool one was 95 senses and it's actually made by the people who did Napoleon Dynamite oh really
[00:39:26] yeah it's about uh you don't initially know what it is it's just like an old guy talking about his five senses and how like important they are and then in the middle of it you find out he's on death row oh jeez
[00:39:40] and why he's on death row and you're like damn that's just like he's talking about how to appreciate life and stuff so yeah um yeah uh and then the last thing I saw was uh driveaway dolls oh yeah which uh Ethan Cohen or Joel Cohen I can't remember
[00:40:00] uh Ethan I think yeah but yeah it's not uh it's alright like it's really edgy um what's in the case when I finally revealed I'm just kind of like uh alright that's not that interesting um but like the I guess it's just kind of fun like the
[00:40:30] the successful part of the movie is the back and forth between the two lead the girls uh who are lesbians and uh the journey they go on everything else around is just kind of like I don't know
[00:40:42] kind of all over the place they got these two hit men after them and they're kind of like there's like a lot I don't know Tarantino s dialogue scenes that it just was like I don't why are we talking about this I don't care like I'm
[00:41:00] I'm into the mystery of like why they're on the journey and then you yeah you find out what's in the case and you're just like oh okay uh and then as you go along like oh there's that famous person oh there's Matt Damon there's Pedro Pascal okay
[00:41:12] so it just feels a little half baked but um I think if you're looking for like a lesbian represent representation in movie this might be something uh you don't want to check out because that's a lot of the humor and the dialogue is about that so yeah sure
[00:41:30] I'm uh I'm glad I just blindly take my kid to the short yeah yeah well it's also subtle like a storytelling so subtle like I think he might just like only pay attention to the animation which is again great like there's a reason they're there but
[00:41:50] I don't know if he's mature enough to like understand really what's going on probably not none of it's like explicit you know but it's not like you know there's nothing that's lava from Pixar in it yeah you know just a couple volcanoes singing um yeah
[00:42:14] back to the Henry sugar thing I just remembered like it's it kind of all takes place in a room so he tells this epic story like all contained within like a soundstage which is just so creative um yeah nice yeah uh there's
[00:42:32] what's the other thing made a few of them because there's a whole hub on Netflix you can watch them oh yeah I thought this was like all of them in like one package but so there's like oh it might be I haven't watched it yet yeah because
[00:42:50] the Henry sugar story kind of tells like I think two other person's stories in the process so like um yeah Ben Kingley has a whole solo thing and then Humberbatch has a different thing that like wraps around them all um yeah and then uh god what's his name
[00:43:14] he's actually playing Raul Dahl anyway sorry let's just do your thing it's okay uh how long did you see these Brad and your memory flipping you last week um yeah so I've just been back on my journey of having Blu-ray that I haven't watched um
[00:43:36] and you know I'm making some pretty good progress I'm up to like 19 um so for those that've listened to the first time I don't know what the hell I'm talking about I have 321 Blu-rays that I've purchased and haven't watched yet now some of them are like
[00:43:54] you know 4Ks that I've upgraded um but most of them are stuff I've bought that I haven't watched yet um and just a couple I mentioned on the show last week I didn't watch them yet but uh the Karate Kid trilogy on 4K
[00:44:14] um as I watched the first Karate Kid I forgot how much I loved that movie when I was growing up and um how much fun the movie is but it's also a really great drama about you know being bullied and um starting over in a new place
[00:44:36] you know they never in the first movie explicitly say why they left um New Jersey? Yeah they're New Jersey but you can tell it's something that his mom wanted a new start or something so it's kind of cool because also you know the mom's a good person
[00:44:52] there's really no um like really the only bad guy is is uh wow what's his name that is it Rhys um John Kreese, John Kreese. Yeah, Kreese. She's two of them combined. He's really the only bad guy because even the you know I forgot the little character beats
[00:45:16] when he's in the tournament of the Cobra Kai guys not wanting to hurt him you know yeah they want to fight with honor but yeah but their sensei won't let him and you know they're so driven by their desire to please their sensei that they do it
[00:45:36] I forgot those little character beats um but the movie's uh really good um so growing up you were on um uh Daniel's side oh yeah totally yeah because growing up there's some people who were actually I thought Daniel was the bully I mean no I haven't heard that
[00:46:00] that's the whole impetus for Cobra Kai well yeah I mean um yeah Cobra Kai is telling it from a different point of view but I know when I watched the movie the people at this news school are pretty mean to him yeah for no reason
[00:46:14] like but like that's something like the inspiration for that idea was from the fact that there's like a online spot that people are like no dude like Daniel's the bully because like uh they like halfway through the movie they kind of had like a ceasefire and then Daniel
[00:46:30] at the Halloween thing when Johnny smoked weed in the bathroom you know it sprays water on him he like he starts the whole thing up again so it's his own fault yeah yeah that's that's that whole thing of yeah like uh Johnny's uh not totally the bad guy
[00:46:47] was like oh we can make a whole show out of that interesting and have you seen Cobra Kai yeah I've watched I think two and a half seasons of it oh yeah so good yeah that's a good movie show that one episode where um
[00:47:03] they're out in the woods and the one friend's dying like oh yeah for a show that started did it start on like YouTube or something yeah yeah the first season was a YouTube original yeah and it kind of blossomed into this what it is now yeah five seasons
[00:47:21] yeah so uh two and three are fun they're definitely not the first one um you know like three three is my favorite is it a whole movie where a bunch of like old guy rich old guys just pick on a college student try to ruin his life
[00:47:39] is that your favorite yeah totally just picks on some small business owners yeah a rich dude goes out of his way yeah to make this kids life yeah has time in his busy schedule doing I don't know business stuff like I'm gonna make some it never
[00:48:07] that's where um uh Tommy Wislow got the idea never really specify what you're doing just know just let the audience figure it out they're smart yeah uh so yeah karate kids fun um I rewatched American made which is that Tom Cruise like drug smuggling movie where he's a
[00:48:35] this guy named Barry Seale and he's bored with his job at TWA and decides to take a job working for quote-unquote the CIA and when he's doing it he decides he's also gonna smuggle drugs um and he's interested into introducing um guns to the drug cartel and
[00:48:57] um yeah he's basically playing both sides and I did after I watched a movie again I went and did research and yeah most of what happened in the movie is kind of true um he really was a guy who did it um and he was
[00:49:15] assassinated by the Pablo Escobar drug cartel I mean they embellished a little bit of the story and Tom Cruise is really good in it um you know it's it's a well-made movie kind of one of his uh later films that slipped under the radar it seems
[00:49:37] yeah I saw it once and I can barely remember all I remembered was that it was like based on a real thing yeah and sometimes you know real life things are sometimes a lot more trippy than made-up stuff um and the
[00:49:53] last thing I watched is a movie I hadn't seen and I'm preparing to see you know for our movie of the week this week um I watched a dune um 2021's dune by Denis Villeneuve um and he still knows how to make things look really nice on screen
[00:50:11] um visually he's an incredible director and the film is actually I know you put that try to stay awake and I thought the film was actually pretty interesting um but it is very um dense if that makes any sense I mean it requires two parts so
[00:50:33] yeah had a lot to cover in the first first one and you know like I really liked it just uh the names seemed really out of place because they're normal names like Paul yeah Duncan Idaho that's the guys you've heard before okay
[00:50:51] I know and you just all right I guess I mean I guess the names aren't creative uh the story is cool um like that guy should be in a point break yeah one of the uh yeah one of the next presidents um Johnny Nevada or Johnny Utah yeah
[00:51:09] Johnny Utah and then we got Duncan Idaho and Dune yeah it is yeah kind of odd that yeah in a galaxy far far away it's just like some guys in Paul yeah hey Mike what yeah that's interesting I've seen the 1984 dune once so long ago I couldn't even
[00:51:31] tell you what happened in it I know Sting's in it um Patrick Stewardson apparently I haven't seen it I don't know yeah so I have really no basis to compare it to because anything I say wouldn't add up if that makes
[00:51:45] sense because I don't remember anything from it um but the movie itself I thought was really cool um Zendaya's in it and she's was really heavily marketed I remember and she's not in it very much the actual movie or she reminds me a lot of her role
[00:52:01] in Spider-Man Homecoming where she's like this really big star I mean past my time I know she's on Disney or something and it's a big deal that she's in the movies but she's not in them that much if that makes sense um
[00:52:17] but maybe in this next one she'll feature more of a prominent role seems like she is yeah I mean obviously they fall in love or something and he's there long enough for his eyes to turn blue so I guess he's you know sustained by the spice
[00:52:31] that goes through the air yeah I only saw it once when it came out and like yeah it's gorgeous to look at definitely visually amazing um but yeah I I can't remember like the nuances of the story like all I remember is like they get
[00:52:47] attacked and like that's the whole movie and then they run away and then it just ends and you're like oh hey uh yeah I hope they make the sequel as I was watching it I go man I feel like I've been watching this
[00:53:01] a long time and it doesn't feel like anything's been resolved yeah it's like a movie about this one big assault he fought that yeah he fought that one dude to the death and I go oh this is gonna end really soon um and yeah I mean
[00:53:21] Corinne when I told her I hadn't watched do and she's sending me these messages like what you stupid motherfucker how could you yeah something like that I mean she was actually probably pretty nice about it but I mean I could tell how she wrote
[00:53:35] him to me that she was like calling me a stupid motherfucker you know the other thing I noticed while I was watching it I don't remember what came first but I was like I feel like Star Wars took uh some beats from this um I think
[00:53:51] Star Wars and this are all from like yeah like Star Wars and this they're all from like the hero's journey story so obviously there's a chosen one and he's got special special powers that no one else has yeah but that's like yeah I can't remember if you like
[00:54:05] yeah the book came first the four star wars are after yeah so you know there's an easy way let me just type it into the google machine well well the internet you can look stuff up on the internet you can uh yeah dune came out in 1965
[00:54:23] okay so George Lucas probably read it and then took some like inspiration from that yeah you know the hero's journey I can set up my own galaxy with my own rules and powers and no one can tell me what to do I'll create a planet called Tatooine
[00:54:43] and and it won't be uh the Luke Skywalker will have force powers yeah this is it and there'll be a big crime boss I'll call him Jabba how should I design a starlack pit I want to be a worm outside the sand I want to be inside genius
[00:55:03] yeah but yeah I mean I thought it was a really good movie yeah I mean I'm excited to see the new one this week so yeah the new one's getting really good reviews get some closure on this thing are you sure I'm guessing there's gonna be another one
[00:55:18] have this feeling if it does cliffhanger into a third one I'm just gonna stand up in the honest go like what just do like what Pan Oswald brother did when he was on Jerry McGuire fuck you hey uh speaking of Karin she sent us a showtime
[00:55:40] I guess we should probably listen to it I hope it's just 15 minutes of her yelling at you for not watching dune that'd be sweet Hey nerds Karin here for another installment of showtime where I talk about something cool I've been watching lately
[00:55:52] I know I said last time I was gonna talk about anime but I'll give you all a reprieve this week and I'll only talk about some other shows that I've been watching yeah some of my favorites are back now after all the strikes and everything so
[00:56:05] I'm really excited um yeah Abbot Elementary came back three weeks ago and just gone well so far been some shakeups with the characters and just you know where they're at in life and what they're doing so I'm kind of enjoying
[00:56:20] that I think it's gonna be a shorter season obviously and I'm like well if you're gonna experiment now is the time to do it so yeah been enjoying that um then ghosts came back two weeks ago and uh really like in the new season they uh
[00:56:37] I've got some ideas on they supposedly like killed off a character but I'm like I don't know if they really did they left it open ended enough that I I'm pretty sure this character's gonna end up coming back later in the season but you know well we'll see
[00:56:55] so um yeah and then Bad Batch came back earlier this week they released the first three episodes of the season oh man season 3 is definitely gonna be like the best of this show I can just tell you if you haven't seen the Bad Batch
[00:57:12] and you're at all a Star Wars fan I highly recommend it it is so good um I wanna say it's like andor level but I mean I mean it's like Clone Wars uh you know Rebels quality I would say you know it might be like a little
[00:57:28] half step down from both of those shows but I mean it's subjective just depends on what you like and you know it's got some you know more episodic things but even some of those I'm like you know it's just kind of fun to see
[00:57:42] the characters spending time together before you know shit hits the fan which believe me it does and then it breaks your heart but well all this sort of well for now so I'm like well I mean not we just need these characters
[00:58:00] to get all back on the same page again I'm just it's just breaking my heart out here so yeah highly recommend the Bad Batch it's on Disney plus if you have that or I'm sure you can stream it somewhere else wink wink um
[00:58:16] yeah uh one other thing I'll talk about real quick is the live action adaptation of Avatar the Last Airbender on Netflix I'm a big fan of the original show and I'm thinking I'm gonna do another um like showtime post on the real nerd site at some
[00:58:32] point about the original show because it's actually like a family favorite with me and my sisters and we were talking earlier this month about like what some of our favorite episodes are so I think I might put like a combined like top 10 um
[00:58:46] episode list together for like me and my sisters because we have a lot of the same ones in common um but anyway then the new version it's not like the worst thing ever it's definitely in some regards better than the M Night Shyamalan movie
[00:59:04] the movie that shall not be named um but it's actually kind of sad how bad some of it looks as far as like the effects and the backgrounds and it's kind of like I can tell most of this was just shot on like a sound stage
[00:59:22] and it's like kind of frustrating how restrictive it is whereas going back and looking at clips of the old M Night Shyamalan movie um not that it's necessarily well made but it's like they definitely shot on location more often and it doesn't feel quite so constricted
[00:59:38] and I also feel like the costumes were handled a little bit better because it feels a little bit more lived in and not quite so you know so bright and colorful and it's like I don't know like obviously when it's a cartoon you can do that
[00:59:52] but when it's live action it's like I feel like some of this should be dirty or faded or muted or something to feel a little bit more lived in everything looks a little too clean a little too crisp um but I think the casting was really well done
[01:00:08] the casting was pretty good um I think most of my problems are with the writing and I might do a post about you know some of the things I liked about the show and some of the things I didn't but that's for another time
[01:00:20] but in general I'd say it's okay I'll probably revisit it at some point but I'm not like jumping at the chance to like oh I gotta go back and rewatch the whole thing it did feel kind of long I'm like I would much rather watch the entire
[01:00:36] animated show all three seasons than I would the first season of the live action show if that helps at all um but then again I'm down to watch Avatar as the last airbender like any day of the week so that's not really saying much
[01:00:52] but yeah Netflix's Avatar I'm like mmm it's okay I'll probably revisit it at some point but I'm also not dying at the chance to do so but I am curious to see I've seen a lot of like people are split on this online
[01:01:06] some people love it some people hate it I'm kind of in the it's okay camp you know some things about it I can appreciate other things I'm like oh man that change was not good so anyway that's where I stand on it if anybody really gives a shit
[01:01:22] but yes next time I do one of these showtime things I will be talking about anime so y'all better buckle down grab yourselves in boneheads you're going for a ride I know that's not the actual conky so alright I'll talk to you guys later
[01:01:43] I'm happy to hear red or red and Ryan had fun at a you know well maybe they had fun at the room I don't know maybe it was terrible I'm curious to hear about it so take care everybody I'll talk to y'all next time with something bye
[01:01:57] I haven't listened to it have you unfortunately it's not her screaming at you for now watching Dune it's uh yeah just about the bad batch coming back and yeah you also told me to watch this anime called spy axe and you know one day she'll realize that
[01:02:17] you know I'm probably not going to watch anime unless I'm forced to like our 600th episode you know could happen yeah and also like the Netflix or the live action last show that you know you know the I don't mind that I do have the cartoon
[01:02:39] and I've watched it because James said it was good and the cartoon is really good yeah that's what I've heard um but I don't know if there needs to be a live action of it there's so much adaptation of like animation these days
[01:02:55] like as a kid I was like oh what would it look like how cool would it be to see this as like a realistic looking thing and as a four year old I'm just like 20 30 years of this
[01:03:05] I'm just like I don't know if any of it's been like that essential like it was genius as an animation I agree I mean not to shit on the Simpsons movie but just because I've been watching 26 seasons of The Simpsons now
[01:03:21] wow it's just like the movie just seems like such a blip of like like if they made more of them it like would have been I don't know better for it but now I'm just like it just feels like I watched an extended episode at this point
[01:03:36] yeah because I mean you could probably fit that snugly into whatever season it was in yeah and the movie's really funny and it's really well done but yeah I mean yeah and like the animation on the show today like the quality of it it's like the movie
[01:03:50] so it's like oh yeah it's crazy because you know actually I'll be posting for the first time in like three years watching every episode of Family Guy because Kellyn's getting into Family Guy and watching how far their animation has come to is pretty impressive yeah yeah on
[01:04:12] Disney Plus where I'm streaming it I can feel the place you stream it like the first ten seasons when they're doing hand drawn animation you know they didn't remaster it they just took the existing I guess digitized files and then just kind of like stretch them
[01:04:30] to fit the widescreen so like there's that and then there's also like you can see the cell like there's a little shadow under everything mm-hmm because they haven't like you know done anything to digitally remaster it and then yeah so like after season 20 like it's all computers
[01:04:48] so everything's just like pristine and perfect yeah you do lose some of that you know I don't know what you'd call it but it's incredible that like almost every episode I think since the 20 season has like like the intro all that like opening intros have like some
[01:05:08] like not even just the couch gag like they all have some kind of custom thing added to it yeah like all these Christmas themes and obviously the Halloween themes and like it's just incredible like how the animation is like watching that much progression of animation
[01:05:24] you know 30 years worth is just impressive oh yeah I agree like there's one part where Homer's in the back backyard I forget what he's doing but like it zooms out and there's like a 3D you know cell shaded 3D thing
[01:05:38] of like the backyard and spring field that like matrix zooms like spins around you're just like Jesus never would have been possible back then oh yeah even they do like family guy does push focuses and things like that you could never do that when that
[01:05:56] show first came out yeah I just watched an episode where Santa's a little helper like the show starts on him walking through the kitchen and it's like cameras low his level but yeah they blur out all the cabinets and everything
[01:06:12] and then you see like everyone's feet under the table it's just like wow it's like it looks like it's shot cinematically like if an actual camera was in their room with them and how are those older episodes of the Simpsons like because they're older now you know the
[01:06:28] 20 to 26 seasons still funny oh yeah surprisingly like obviously they don't have like the heart that the first 10 do but yeah there's stuff where I'm just like baha like laughing at like I didn't and there's some like I really should just be
[01:06:48] doing what you're doing and like chronicling as I go it seems like a waste I'm just watching them moving on but yeah there's like there's some like coded jokes that's like oh my god did anyone get that like yeah um yeah I wish I had a specific example
[01:07:04] but yeah I just I did I thought I would like be breezing through them I thought it'd be like I'd be watching them but not paying attention to them but yeah there's stuff in there and it's like oh my god that's great um that's like a season
[01:07:18] 1 through 10 thing it's great yeah you know I mentioned last week I cut cable and it's kind of forcing me to um watch stuff like that so I got the Blu-ray of 30 rock because it's on sell at Best Buy for I don't know like $30 and
[01:07:38] you forget when you get wrapped up into how like clever the shows are and how much you like them and and it's the one thing I've liked about not having cable it's forcing me to watch Blu-rays I haven't watched yet and instead of just
[01:07:52] you know I'll put on SportsCenter um and so I've been actually having a lot of fun these last couple weeks with just blindly watching stuff and um it's been good nice yeah welcome to my world because I've had cable since like 2009 I know it's been fun um
[01:08:14] next week we are seeing Dune part 2 um so that'll be fun because it looks like it's gonna be a pretty big movie um it better be and uh until then we'll see you at the movies real nerd knows who shot a real nerd shot real nerds
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