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[00:00:29] This is Ming Chen from AMC's Comic Book Men.
[00:00:32] Listen, I have my own podcast.
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[00:00:59] This is Reel Nerds Podcast.
[00:01:28] And for over 10 years, we have seen a new movie and podcasts that are experienced to
[00:01:33] the world.
[00:01:35] And this next part is going to be hard guys.
[00:01:40] And 10 is coming to a close.
[00:01:42] And so is Reel Nerds Podcast.
[00:01:47] We're in the end game now.
[00:01:49] It's been a wild ride.
[00:01:52] Oh, hey.
[00:01:55] So after 10 years of doing the same shit over and over and over and over and over
[00:02:01] again times 500 and something.
[00:02:06] About six months ago, I was talking to Brad about freshening up our podcast,
[00:02:13] streamlining it and also making it have more of a unique voice.
[00:02:18] And after 10 years of people constantly hounding us about, hey, why do you guys take so long
[00:02:25] to get to the featured movie?
[00:02:28] I decided I was finally going to listen after 10 years and 500 and some episodes.
[00:02:35] So starting not next week.
[00:02:36] Next week is film explosion 2021.
[00:02:39] Send us your favorite films of the year.
[00:02:42] But the one after that, which is going to be, I believe, scream, we are going to unveil
[00:02:52] our new format.
[00:02:54] And like I said, I wanted to give everybody kind of their own voice.
[00:02:59] And as I was shooting ideas back with fourth with Brad, we came up with an idea of
[00:03:05] because how everybody for a little bit had their own article on our website.
[00:03:13] You know, Zach, you did your Clint Eastwood thing.
[00:03:16] Yeah, Carole has.
[00:03:17] Yeah.
[00:03:18] Catching the classics.
[00:03:19] I do a screen factory thing basically on taking the shackles off.
[00:03:24] And so our new format is going to be real nerds unchained.
[00:03:29] Yes.
[00:03:31] The first thing we're going to do is review the movie of the week and dive into it.
[00:03:38] Analysis of that, then we'll unveil the big news story of the week.
[00:03:43] So like this week, it would be more BS being moved again.
[00:03:47] And.
[00:03:49] And then after that, everybody is going to pre-record whatever they choose or not.
[00:03:56] It's kind of up to you.
[00:03:58] I'm going to see if we put maybe a 10 minute time limit on them, kind of give
[00:04:05] everybody their own chance to shine and talk about stuff.
[00:04:08] So we're not going anywhere.
[00:04:10] I'm just freshening up the experience.
[00:04:13] Mm hmm.
[00:04:15] Indeed.
[00:04:16] But this does mark the end of an era for real nerds in several respects,
[00:04:20] because we don't necessarily have the same crew that was started out with as of now.
[00:04:28] But so as a result, like when we shift into this new format, it will not be
[00:04:33] with the original cast members, essentially, or at least not all of them.
[00:04:37] Yeah, that Brad, you can jump in if you want, if make sure I'm not speaking for you.
[00:04:42] But I that's what I thought about, too, is maybe also getting other people involved again.
[00:04:49] Not that I mean, I love every time I'm on the show with you and Brad, but
[00:04:55] it was the way that, you know, maybe James wants to contribute,
[00:04:58] but he doesn't have time to sit through an hour and a half podcast.
[00:05:01] Yeah.
[00:05:02] Same with Henry.
[00:05:03] I mean, really anybody I don't care who wants to contribute.
[00:05:07] The ghost of Benny.
[00:05:09] If he wants. OK.
[00:05:11] Brings us by a win.
[00:05:13] I have to get my Ouija board out of my door.
[00:05:15] I'm afraid it goes.
[00:05:17] Yeah. Well.
[00:05:21] I have a question for us all, since this does mark the end of an era
[00:05:25] for the next. Wow.
[00:05:28] Wow. The unsanimental bastard.
[00:05:30] You dare you question, Ryan?
[00:05:33] I'm not questioning Ryan.
[00:05:36] I love this new idea.
[00:05:37] But do we have any favorite moments from the old format?
[00:05:41] I know my favorite, but I'd love to know if you guys have one.
[00:05:46] I mean, that's a five hundred and twenty episodes.
[00:05:48] Thanks. That's a broad.
[00:05:51] Ask. I mean, it's hard because.
[00:05:55] You know, I always.
[00:05:58] Well.
[00:06:00] Well, I just love seeing movies and talking about it with my friends.
[00:06:03] So it gives me an excuse to stay connected with my friends because
[00:06:07] my job sometimes doesn't allow me to do that because I work like today.
[00:06:11] I worked 13 hours and so it's kind of nice to get away.
[00:06:16] It's it's my escape.
[00:06:18] So that's the thing I mean, I always remember and I'm not going anywhere.
[00:06:21] I'm still going to do it as long as I have people that will do it with me.
[00:06:24] I'll always do real nerds.
[00:06:26] I don't think it's a burden.
[00:06:28] I think it's a fun thing I do every week.
[00:06:31] Right. OK.
[00:06:32] And Brad, do you have any favorite moments?
[00:06:35] My favorite moment was every time in between the show when we weren't doing it.
[00:06:44] When I wasn't editing it.
[00:06:47] Those moments, those were the best.
[00:06:49] I got I've got two that will always stick out of my mind.
[00:06:52] First of all, one that I'm not involved in.
[00:06:56] The I would call this the quadrility of Hunger Games Reviews
[00:07:01] that you guys did on the show where Ryan is the sole defender of the series.
[00:07:06] And Brad and James are just digging assholes.
[00:07:12] But I love how it culminated.
[00:07:14] It's like it's kind of like the fourth one is kind of like the end game
[00:07:17] of this whole situation, because in the middle of it, Brad,
[00:07:20] when the when everything started getting super heated, Brad put over
[00:07:24] put underneath the Star Trek battle music from the original series
[00:07:29] when they're going through Ponfar.
[00:07:31] But the other one, I'll never forget it.
[00:07:33] It's in the Guardians of the Galaxy Volume Two episode.
[00:07:38] I had talked about watching a Ken Rickburns documentary on Coney Island.
[00:07:43] And there was a story in that documentary about trying to kill an elephant
[00:07:47] and they tried to hang it.
[00:07:49] And James went on a tangent for a good, I want to say, two minutes
[00:07:53] of listing other ways to kill an elephant,
[00:07:56] which is like it's it's one of the funniest things
[00:08:01] I have ever been witness to in person in a room.
[00:08:04] Like no joke, I will re listen to that episode just to go to that portion.
[00:08:10] And he had a line because I asked him,
[00:08:14] why are we trying to figure out a way to kill an elephant?
[00:08:16] He went, I don't know, the poachers of the world can do it.
[00:08:18] Why can't we?
[00:08:22] So wait, I got I got a new
[00:08:25] favorite moment.
[00:08:27] It's when we reviewed my own movie on the episode as a as a weekly feature thing
[00:08:34] and only rinesh up for any still pair it with a major movie.
[00:08:43] So thanks, guys.
[00:08:45] That's because I love you, Brad.
[00:08:47] I know, I can always count on you.
[00:08:49] You fucking know it.
[00:08:50] Thank you for being a friend.
[00:08:53] Before we start, exactly, you say Malia was there.
[00:08:56] She is, yeah.
[00:08:57] But she's she's hanging out.
[00:08:58] She's taking on she's taking an amp.
[00:09:00] Oh, I was going to berate you for showing her
[00:09:03] arsenic and old lace as our first carry grand film.
[00:09:06] We'll get into that discussion.
[00:09:07] Don't you worry because I realized it was technically not the right decision.
[00:09:13] Anyways, we talk about movies we've been watching movie news
[00:09:17] movies that are coming out on Blu-ray movies, movies, movies.
[00:09:21] Step right up and see your movies.
[00:09:23] Oh, yeah.
[00:09:24] We're doing this week.
[00:09:25] Yeah, I'm going to tell you Nightmare Alley is our film of the week.
[00:09:29] Stay tuned for the end of the episode
[00:09:31] for the last time at the end of the episode where we will
[00:09:33] recommend the film or not play the trailer and then review the movie.
[00:09:37] Yes, we will review Guillermo del Toro's latest adventure
[00:09:40] where spoiler alerts, guys, the humans are the real monsters.
[00:09:45] Yes.
[00:09:47] You know, I realized you could kind of define
[00:09:49] almost every Guillermo del Toro movie that way, going like the humans
[00:09:52] are the monsters, but this time it's a superhero movie
[00:09:54] or the humans are the real monsters.
[00:09:56] But this time it's creatures in the black lagoon.
[00:09:58] And this one I've been going like, guys, the humans are the real monsters,
[00:10:02] but a carnival.
[00:10:06] It's great, though. We love Guillermo here.
[00:10:10] Hey, let's unspool some real news.
[00:10:13] It's real news.
[00:10:20] Well, Ryan already kind of alluded to it,
[00:10:22] but we'll go ahead and talk about it anyway.
[00:10:25] Sony and Marvel have confirmed that Morbius has shifted from January 28th
[00:10:29] to April 1st as its release date.
[00:10:33] There is something that's been alerted to the studio
[00:10:35] to the possibility of the movie going momentum slowing down over the next few weeks.
[00:10:38] So they put decided to push Morbius to April according to Cinema Blend,
[00:10:43] which I don't so I'm going to chime in real quick,
[00:10:45] which is really stupid because once you want to keep the momentum
[00:10:48] going from Spider-Man, the only one who thinks them doing this is really stupid.
[00:10:53] Normally, I might push back on that, but I agree,
[00:10:56] especially since there are frequent ads for more Morbius attached to Spider-Man.
[00:11:01] At least they were at my screening.
[00:11:03] So like I would imagine you want to capitalize off of that
[00:11:06] because the likelihood of people wanting to go and drove some Morbius
[00:11:10] is not necessarily guaranteed.
[00:11:12] Yeah. And my favorite part about Morbius being delayed.
[00:11:18] This is, I think, the sixth time, if I remember correctly.
[00:11:20] And they shot Spider-Man No Way Home, edited and released it
[00:11:27] since Morbius was delayed the first time.
[00:11:29] I'm just saying.
[00:11:31] I have a feeling, Ryan, that that movie is not very good.
[00:11:35] And they are.
[00:11:37] I would be shocked if it was.
[00:11:39] I think this is a new mutant situation we're dealing with here all over again.
[00:11:44] And but they also have Uncharted coming out in February.
[00:11:47] So it's not like they're going to be like struggling for money.
[00:11:49] Like I'm sure Uncharted will make some money.
[00:11:51] I mean, I'm guaranteeing it's because I think Scream is tracking better
[00:11:55] than people thought.
[00:11:57] Well, Scream, it's a good franchise.
[00:12:00] Morbius hasn't established itself yet.
[00:12:03] I'm just disappointed that for Scream, they didn't put a five for the S.
[00:12:07] So now it's just confusing that it's Scream and it's the fifth one.
[00:12:12] Hey, Ryan, Ryan, wouldn't it be cool if they could just call it Scream five?
[00:12:17] Or like, I don't know what you'd call it.
[00:12:20] But yeah, like Halloween 2018, I get that.
[00:12:24] I kind of get that this one.
[00:12:26] That was just past.
[00:12:28] Yeah, it's called Scream five.
[00:12:30] It's called Scream five.
[00:12:31] Brad, you're a graphic designer.
[00:12:32] Why don't they just put a five for the S?
[00:12:37] That's a long running joke.
[00:12:40] It's like fantastic for.
[00:12:43] Mm hmm.
[00:12:44] Yeah.
[00:12:46] Moving on to some other news.
[00:12:49] This is something that's been tracking in our news in the last couple of episodes
[00:12:54] since the middle of the year, public domain issues and specifically
[00:12:59] studios holding onto character exclusivity.
[00:13:02] Well, guess what?
[00:13:03] A cuddly, tuddly, all stuff with fluff little bear
[00:13:09] is finally going back into the public domain.
[00:13:10] Winnie the Pooh is past its date to move into the public domain.
[00:13:15] And that means Disney is in potential to lose their exclusivity on the character.
[00:13:19] I doubt they will lose that exclusivity at all.
[00:13:22] There's a caveat to that.
[00:13:23] It's the Milne version.
[00:13:27] It's not it's not this version.
[00:13:31] It's not the Disney version of him wearing a red shirt and always wanting honey.
[00:13:37] So get ready for a tunnel.
[00:13:38] Winnie the Pooh stuff added to our marketing.
[00:13:41] Yeah, we should.
[00:13:43] Wonderful thing about real nerds is real nerds are wonderful things.
[00:13:47] They got our sweet new yellow and red logo.
[00:13:51] It's just right.
[00:13:52] It's just Ryan in a poo bear shirt.
[00:13:55] Dude, we should so get get a Winnie the Pooh and put a real nerd shirt on him.
[00:14:02] Little caption. Oh, bother.
[00:14:06] What did what did you bother?
[00:14:08] Why did you why did you what did you think of Morbius Winnie the Pooh?
[00:14:12] I don't know, but I had a rumbly in my tumbling afterward.
[00:14:17] I love this fucking show.
[00:14:24] No, Pooh, Pooh Bear doesn't say the word fuck.
[00:14:28] Pooh Bear just wants to eat honey peacefully on the one.
[00:14:32] I haven't heard from Pooh in five days.
[00:14:34] Has anybody seen him?
[00:14:36] No, don't do that, Ryan.
[00:14:38] Don't you dare.
[00:14:40] It's the right fuck on his red shirt on all of them.
[00:14:42] Do it.
[00:14:43] Jesus Christ.
[00:14:46] Give it to your tattoo.
[00:14:47] Fuck you know what I love that the last traditional episode
[00:14:51] of Real Nerds podcast has decided to throw all of its all of things out
[00:14:56] the window to pour them.
[00:14:57] I'm going to drop Winnie the Pooh putting Paddington in a chokehold.
[00:15:01] That that that would I would pay to I would pay to see I would pay to see that.
[00:15:06] I remember I remember being at Constan Odds with Henry
[00:15:11] in the Battle of the British Bears.
[00:15:12] So but, you know, USA Today was reporting today that most Disney characters
[00:15:18] are used or trademarked under something called the Mickey Mouse Protection Act.
[00:15:22] But Milton's original stories aren't.
[00:15:24] Disney can still sue people for using their unique version of Pooh
[00:15:27] or other characters from Disney canon that Milton did not create.
[00:15:31] So pretty much just gopher or the Huffle Lump
[00:15:34] in the Winnie the Pooh movie that came out in 2011.
[00:15:37] The Winnie the Pooh franchise whose last official theatrical
[00:15:39] release was 2018's live action Christopher Robin, reportedly earned
[00:15:43] $80 billion to date.
[00:15:45] No, that can't be right.
[00:15:46] 80 million's got to be that.
[00:15:47] That's got to be a typo there.
[00:15:49] That'd be great if Christopher Robin was the best movie of all time
[00:15:52] because it is one of the best movies of all time.
[00:15:54] Maybe they met the entire franchise.
[00:15:57] Hmm, that's true.
[00:16:00] That could be it.
[00:16:01] I don't know any who bottom line is that there's a this is another
[00:16:06] in a line of characters that could easily go the way of the dodo
[00:16:08] from the companies that are most known for keeping them afloat.
[00:16:12] I have to imagine that Disney is going to fight that in court
[00:16:15] if somebody tries to make a claim on that from the estate.
[00:16:18] Well, I mean, I'm for their version, for sure.
[00:16:21] I mean, yeah, I don't think they give a flight to flying poos about
[00:16:27] the old shit stories to flying poos.
[00:16:35] Oh, Ryan, I love that.
[00:16:37] That was great to do that more often.
[00:16:40] All right, guys, do we want an update on family?
[00:16:44] We ready?
[00:16:44] We ready for the shocker of all shockers?
[00:16:47] Dwayne Johnson's not coming back.
[00:16:51] I know I love this.
[00:16:51] No more.
[00:16:52] He's like, dude, fuck Vin Diesel.
[00:16:55] Fuck him for using Paul Walker and his daughter in the post.
[00:16:59] I'm not coming back with an asshole.
[00:17:01] He said, I told Diesel directly I would not be returning to the franchise.
[00:17:05] I was firm yet cordial with my words, and I said that I would always
[00:17:08] be supportive of the cast and always root for the franchise to be successful.
[00:17:11] But there was no chance I would return.
[00:17:13] Vince, recent public post was an example of his manipulation.
[00:17:17] I didn't like that he brought up his children in the post as well
[00:17:19] as Paul Walker's death. Leave them out of it.
[00:17:22] We had we had spoken months ago about this and came to a clear understanding
[00:17:28] Johnson clarified that he bears no ill will.
[00:17:31] Said my goal all along was to end my amazing journey
[00:17:33] with this incredible franchise with gratitude and grace.
[00:17:36] It's unfortunate that this public dialogue has muddied the waters,
[00:17:39] regardless, I'm confident that the fast universe and its ability
[00:17:42] to constantly deliver for the audience.
[00:17:44] I truly wish my former course are co stars and crew members
[00:17:47] the best of luck and success in the next chapter.
[00:17:51] Yeah.
[00:17:53] And in response, Vin Diesel said, you don't need the rock when you've got family.
[00:17:59] And that's all he said.
[00:18:01] Yeah, no, I don't know.
[00:18:02] I mean.
[00:18:05] I don't even think people are going to that franchise for the rock.
[00:18:08] I think they're going to watch what insane shit's going to happen next
[00:18:11] because they literally build their bread and butter on that recently.
[00:18:15] So I don't know.
[00:18:17] It does. Does this even matter to anybody?
[00:18:20] Certainly not.
[00:18:22] I just feel like I want to date on it.
[00:18:24] Yeah.
[00:18:25] Anyway, look for Dwayne Johnson in any other franchise with that one.
[00:18:31] And then I'm bringing up this piece of news
[00:18:33] because I think it's awesome.
[00:18:34] Keanu Reeves is currently in talks to star in Devil in the White City
[00:18:38] from Martin Scorsese, which is a Hulu adaptation that will be coming out
[00:18:44] in the works. No, I'm sorry.
[00:18:45] You don't want to see Keanu Reeves being directed by an amazing director?
[00:18:49] No. What's wrong with you?
[00:18:51] What's wrong with you?
[00:18:53] What's wrong with you?
[00:18:57] Yeah. For anybody who doesn't know, the Devil in the White City
[00:19:00] is a book that deals around the affair that is integral to American study,
[00:19:07] but specifically also the first serial killer in America, H.H. Holmes,
[00:19:13] who had a murder castle in Chicago and this is looking to be a limited series.
[00:19:18] So it won't be a movie.
[00:19:19] It will be a limited series.
[00:19:21] But Scorsese originally had this in the works as a film with Leonardo DiCaprio,
[00:19:27] but that version did not materialize.
[00:19:29] So look out for the Devil in the White City, possibly with Keanu Reeves.
[00:19:33] And the last book.
[00:19:35] Yeah, I don't you want to see that as a series by Martin Scorsese?
[00:19:41] Sure. Come on, Ryan.
[00:19:43] I know you want it.
[00:19:44] I know you I know I look I know he puts his foot in his mouth,
[00:19:47] but I know you want it.
[00:19:51] And then the last piece of news, we had two deaths
[00:19:54] in the movie world this week.
[00:19:56] First of all, Jeanine Rousse passed away at the age of 84.
[00:20:00] She was only in one film, but what a film.
[00:20:03] She was young Violet Bickman and it's a wonderful life.
[00:20:08] Additionally, Jeanine Rousse was a radio actress as a child
[00:20:13] appearing on such programs as the Jack Benny program
[00:20:17] and the Phil Harris Alice Faye show where she played
[00:20:20] little Alice Harris, Fils and Alice's daughter.
[00:20:27] Played the fictionalized version of that.
[00:20:30] She basically kind of moved away from acting
[00:20:35] after her childhood and went on to UCLA to become a psychologist
[00:20:40] and a young analyst.
[00:20:42] And I only really bring this death up
[00:20:46] apart from the wonderful life that is like I had the privilege
[00:20:49] of being able to speak to her last year at the Benicon.
[00:20:51] And she gave some wonderful insight as to how it was to work in radio.
[00:20:57] So she gave she gave some
[00:20:59] wonderful gifts to people later on talking about her experiences
[00:21:02] on the work that she did in radio and television.
[00:21:05] And I mean, if you're going to only have one film credit to your name,
[00:21:09] what better movie than It's a Wonderful Life?
[00:21:12] Like she glows.
[00:21:14] Ryan, she grows up to be Gloria Graham.
[00:21:17] That's right. Who doesn't want to grow up to be Gloria Graham?
[00:21:22] But I think the last piece of news is the biggest piece of news.
[00:21:27] The Queen is dead, long live the queen.
[00:21:29] Betty White has finally left this this realm at the age of ninety nine.
[00:21:35] Best known for the several television series she was a part of,
[00:21:38] not the least of which being The Golden Girls where she played Rose.
[00:21:43] Yeah, also, and I mean,
[00:21:45] she didn't really start getting into films till later in the nineties,
[00:21:48] when she was in a couple of films in the fifties and sixties, Ryan.
[00:21:52] But I know she was also a bigger staple on television even before that.
[00:21:56] My knowledge on her beyond Golden Girls is not that robust.
[00:22:00] Does anybody here?
[00:22:02] You should watch the Mary Tyler Marshall.
[00:22:04] That's right.
[00:22:05] Yeah. Mm hmm.
[00:22:07] That's right. I adore that show.
[00:22:08] Yep. And also in films such as The Proposal, You Again.
[00:22:17] She just I just loved, you know, actually,
[00:22:19] she was in a show that I liked called Hot and Cleveland.
[00:22:22] I really enjoyed Hot and Cleveland.
[00:22:25] And she has a great little romance with Carl Reiner on that show
[00:22:30] where they talk about she complains that he hasn't any desire to go downtown.
[00:22:37] And then later in the Carl Reiner later, Carl Reiner comes in and goes like,
[00:22:42] all right, I'm willing to try going downtown to that restaurant you wanted to go to.
[00:22:49] To see it's more about an old man not wanting to go to a big scary city.
[00:22:54] It's OK.
[00:22:55] I'm going down on it.
[00:22:57] You make you make fun of Carl Reiner.
[00:23:00] I won't have it on this show.
[00:23:01] I don't ever want to Carl Reiner.
[00:23:03] Damn right.
[00:23:04] You know, he directed Oh God, Ryan.
[00:23:07] He did.
[00:23:08] Do you know why I'm so angry about that shout factor release?
[00:23:12] It doesn't say Carl Reiner's Oh God.
[00:23:15] On the disk.
[00:23:18] Anyway, that is news.
[00:23:22] Movies are coming out on Blu-ray and you might want to pick some up.
[00:23:25] We'll tell you about them right now.
[00:23:29] He released the Blu-ray.
[00:23:33] Kind of a light week this week.
[00:23:35] Sorry to say.
[00:23:38] We've got Alfred Hitchcock's Rich and Strange from 1931
[00:23:42] and coming to courtesy of Keenal Lorber.
[00:23:45] This is along the line as in the series of ones
[00:23:48] that they're releasing individually.
[00:23:50] Among the new releases is 2021's Antlers.
[00:23:53] Guillermo del Toro produced film directed by Scott Cooper of Black Mass fame.
[00:23:58] I see that movie, but the Blu-ray is like $30 on Amazon.
[00:24:02] Well, do you know who you know who is owned by?
[00:24:04] Right. Well, yeah, I'm just saying it's really expensive.
[00:24:09] Yeah, I know.
[00:24:10] But they could be part of the Disney movie club soon.
[00:24:13] You know what?
[00:24:14] If they're not going to put Nightmare Ali on Disney Plus,
[00:24:17] then I might as well just cancel my Disney Plus subscription.
[00:24:20] Be proud of everything you put out.
[00:24:22] Don't just shuffle it off to the side.
[00:24:25] A movie called Black Friday from 2021 is coming featuring Bruce Campbell.
[00:24:30] Ryan, are you picking this up?
[00:24:31] Maybe.
[00:24:33] I kept on meaning to stream it and I kept on forgetting about it.
[00:24:37] I heard it's OK.
[00:24:38] Is this on Shutter or something like that?
[00:24:41] I don't think I didn't get on Prime for like three dollars.
[00:24:44] OK.
[00:24:46] Next, we've got some Keanu Lowerbur releases.
[00:24:49] All my sons featuring Edward G. Robinson and Bert Lancaster.
[00:24:53] You can get China from 1943 featuring Loretta Young and Alan Lad.
[00:24:58] You can get Shake Hands with the Devil featuring James Cagney, Don Murray
[00:25:02] and Dana Winter and Glenis Johns.
[00:25:06] That's right.
[00:25:07] Glenis Johns from Mary Poppins was in a James Cagney movie.
[00:25:11] And you can watch it.
[00:25:12] You can also watch Raymelland and Marlene Dietrich in Golden Earrings,
[00:25:16] a Mitch Lysen production from 1957.
[00:25:18] And you can get The Crime of the Century featuring Jean Herschel,
[00:25:22] Dr. Christian himself.
[00:25:23] That's right.
[00:25:24] You can watch him in a pre-code era of motion picture
[00:25:27] and featuring Francis Dee.
[00:25:30] And we're getting a movie called The Gin from 2021 coming to you on Blu-ray.
[00:25:36] I have not seen this one.
[00:25:38] Ryan, what's this?
[00:25:39] No, I don't know either.
[00:25:40] I think it's a Shutter movie.
[00:25:42] OK, OK. Right on.
[00:25:44] Well, you can pick that up if you would like.
[00:25:47] And then Cohen Media Group is putting out Only the Animals,
[00:25:51] a movie from 2019.
[00:25:53] It looks to be French.
[00:25:55] So yeah, I maybe I'll check it out.
[00:25:59] I don't know. We'll see.
[00:26:01] And you can also get a movie called Together from 2021
[00:26:03] featuring James McAvoy and Sharon Horgan.
[00:26:08] And there's also a re-release of Freedom Riders
[00:26:12] from 2007 featuring Hillary Swank.
[00:26:16] So yeah, that's Blu-ray's next week is way cooler, I promise.
[00:26:20] And there's a steel book that I will be picking up
[00:26:23] because holy fucking shit, is it cool?
[00:26:27] You know what I'm talking about, Frost?
[00:26:29] Oh, yeah.
[00:26:31] Dune, that Sam Dune looks amazing.
[00:26:35] No, no.
[00:26:37] Of course, it's Halloween kills.
[00:26:41] We watch films throughout the week in a segment I call
[00:26:45] what we've been watching.
[00:26:47] So yeah, this is the stuff we've been watching.
[00:26:51] Is that what you call it?
[00:26:53] After all these years, Frost,
[00:26:54] can't you just say that's not what you call this segment?
[00:26:57] No, because it's a joke that I long ran.
[00:27:01] I've ever told you this joke.
[00:27:03] Hmm.
[00:27:05] I don't think he's going to wait.
[00:27:07] It's a callback to Tells From the Crypt,
[00:27:13] where the Crypt Keeper always says in a segment I like to call.
[00:27:17] Yeah, never mind.
[00:27:19] Yeah.
[00:27:20] OK, that makes my stupid joke.
[00:27:23] You know what?
[00:27:23] No, no, don't don't denigrate yourself.
[00:27:26] You earned that clap and I want you to keep clapping.
[00:27:29] Thank you.
[00:27:30] Brad, would you watch this week?
[00:27:33] A lot of stuff.
[00:27:36] First, I watched The Tender Bar,
[00:27:39] which is an adaptation of a memoir starring Ben Affleck.
[00:27:46] Is he as good and mad as he is in Phantoms?
[00:27:49] Totally.
[00:27:50] He was the bomb in Phantoms, so he better be the bomb in this.
[00:27:54] It's directed by George Clooney and.
[00:27:56] Hell yeah.
[00:27:57] It's about.
[00:27:59] Like an average life.
[00:28:02] Like the most interesting thing about it is that the.
[00:28:08] Kid that the memoir is about his dad was a radio DJ in the 70s and 80s in New York
[00:28:14] and they never name him by name, but he basically abandoned the kid
[00:28:19] and the kid went through his life, you know, not being prone to sports.
[00:28:25] He's more of a bookworm.
[00:28:26] And so his dream in life is to become a writer and his uncle played by Ben Affleck
[00:28:33] is really encouraging of that.
[00:28:35] And so the movie just goes on, you know, this memoir and then eventually
[00:28:41] he realizes he has to reconnect with his dad in adulthood to, you know,
[00:28:46] deal with his demons and I don't know, it just wasn't that
[00:28:51] shocking or interesting of a story to me.
[00:28:55] Um, it feels like it's a lot of people's story.
[00:28:59] And he has a hang up like this girl he meets in college.
[00:29:02] You know, he gets into I think Yale or Harvard.
[00:29:07] Oh, that's sad.
[00:29:08] Yeah. And he meets this girl and he's like just obsessed with her the whole time.
[00:29:14] But she's.
[00:29:16] You know, involved with someone else and she's seeing him on the side
[00:29:18] and he never seems to get the get it through his head that, you know,
[00:29:23] she's not really into him.
[00:29:25] So yeah, it's all right.
[00:29:30] That Affleck's great in it.
[00:29:32] And, you know, he has a loving family around him the rest of the time.
[00:29:37] So like that, you know, the most controversial thing is his piece of
[00:29:41] shit, Radio DJ dad.
[00:29:45] Yeah.
[00:29:46] That he eventually sees at the end and sounds Oscar Bady calls the police on.
[00:29:52] Yep.
[00:29:53] Oh, I'm down for it.
[00:29:54] I'm down for a George Clooney movie starring Ben Affleck.
[00:29:58] Then I watched Don't Look Up, which.
[00:30:02] Is fun, I guess.
[00:30:03] Just kind of a hard watch because it's like idiocracy or just like, yep,
[00:30:06] that's probably how this would shake out.
[00:30:09] Don't look up as the atom.
[00:30:11] A end of the world movie with DiCaprio and Jennifer Lawrence.
[00:30:18] So yeah, that was, you know, it's amusing, but I didn't score it higher
[00:30:24] just because I felt bad watching it.
[00:30:27] It'd be like, yeah, this is pretty much how I imagined society at this point would react.
[00:30:36] Then I watched a documentary called The Last Blockbuster.
[00:30:40] Yeah, that one's not that good.
[00:30:43] Yeah, it just feels padded.
[00:30:45] I agree.
[00:30:46] I was hoping it explored more into, you know, the renting culture and stuff.
[00:30:52] And it was more about that lady in her family.
[00:30:55] Yeah, that lady in her family and it feels like a bunch of, you know,
[00:30:58] popular comedians are just like, hey, we got this person in there.
[00:31:02] So yeah, we're going to add them to it.
[00:31:05] Two when you're watching that they were is one of those documentaries
[00:31:08] where they were being fed stuff and they'd say, you remember Blockbuster
[00:31:13] and then it cut to like Dana Gould.
[00:31:14] He said, man, I used to go to Blockbuster.
[00:31:17] Yeah, or they or they'd set up a really easily answered question,
[00:31:22] but they'd make you wait like half an hour to answer it.
[00:31:24] Yeah. Yeah.
[00:31:27] Yeah, not great.
[00:31:29] Yeah, I agree.
[00:31:30] But so cool to revisit Blockbuster.
[00:31:33] No, I agree.
[00:31:34] It's one of those things where you kind of dig it for what it is.
[00:31:37] But at the same time, you go, OK, this could be more revealing and interesting.
[00:31:42] Totally.
[00:31:46] And then I watched Mitchell's and Machines.
[00:31:49] I love that movie.
[00:31:50] Yeah, it's animations.
[00:31:51] Amazing. Oh, yeah.
[00:31:53] Probably a little bit too sentimental for me at times.
[00:31:56] Like it really hammers home like the family thing.
[00:32:00] Yeah, who cares about families and caring and shit?
[00:32:03] Yeah, I do. Family.
[00:32:06] Don't have enough movies about that.
[00:32:09] Then I watched the most money, Brad.
[00:32:12] Then I watched Bad Trip, which is basically like a road movie
[00:32:18] in the style of Bad Grandpa, and it's really funny.
[00:32:23] Never heard of it.
[00:32:25] Yeah, it was supposed to come out in theaters
[00:32:26] like right before the pandemic, but then they just threw it on Netflix.
[00:32:29] And Eric Andre is the star.
[00:32:32] Lil Rel Howry, I think is his name is his buddy.
[00:32:38] You know, it's one of those like do gags in front of real people movies.
[00:32:44] But they put a narrative to it.
[00:32:46] And so Eric Andre, he's, you know, between jobs.
[00:32:53] And then he like what like this high school crush meets up with him.
[00:32:58] He's like, hey, we should hang out some time and she lives in New York.
[00:33:02] So she goes back to your art gallery and he gets in his head that like he
[00:33:06] she likes him, so he has to like go on this road trip to go see her art show.
[00:33:10] He can see his buddy to steal his sister's really bright pink car
[00:33:17] because she's in prison and they go up there, but she's out of prison.
[00:33:20] And so she like chases them down the whole time.
[00:33:24] And they just do all these, you know, in person
[00:33:28] gags for the movie like the free people out at one point.
[00:33:31] They're running through the through a golf course
[00:33:35] with their dicks and Chinese figure trap together.
[00:33:41] You know, they go to the art show, they destroy it
[00:33:43] and like there's this regular people, you know, aren't in on the joke
[00:33:47] freaked out by all the destruction happening.
[00:33:50] Yeah, it was pretty funny.
[00:33:52] It's on Netflix. On Netflix.
[00:33:54] Yep. Yes, we have to check that out.
[00:33:56] Yeah. The at one point before he goes on the trip,
[00:34:00] he works in like a Jamba juice shop,
[00:34:04] you know, and he helps the girl he has a crush on
[00:34:06] and like cut in line and get served first.
[00:34:09] And when she leaves, he's like distracted.
[00:34:11] He like sticks his hand in the blender
[00:34:13] and it blends his hand in front of all these people
[00:34:16] just shooting blood all over the store.
[00:34:20] Yeah, good stuff.
[00:34:23] Then I watched Kate, which is a the Mary Elizabeth Winstead
[00:34:28] kind of John Wick slash crank movie
[00:34:31] where she's plays an assassin who gets poisoned
[00:34:35] and she tries to track down her killers before she dies.
[00:34:39] And then she has us like a kid sidekick
[00:34:42] who works for the Akusa or she doesn't work,
[00:34:45] but she's like a kid of someone who works the Akusa.
[00:34:49] And so they kind of bounce off each other.
[00:34:51] And yeah, the action is actually really cool.
[00:34:55] Woody Harrelson is our handler.
[00:34:57] And it kind of goes where I thought it would.
[00:34:59] But the action is pretty badass.
[00:35:01] So you go check that out.
[00:35:05] That's pretty sweet.
[00:35:07] Then the last thing I watched was the America,
[00:35:10] the motion picture, which is about the founding of America.
[00:35:15] I forgot I saw that.
[00:35:17] Oh, yeah. Nice. Yeah.
[00:35:21] Yeah, it's pretty fun.
[00:35:22] It's like
[00:35:24] like a super Patriots.
[00:35:27] Like messed up vision of how America would have been founded.
[00:35:31] So like Abraham Lincoln and George Washington are best buds
[00:35:34] and Bennett Garnold kills Abraham Lincoln
[00:35:38] and destroys this, disrupts the signing
[00:35:42] of the Declaration of Independence.
[00:35:43] So George Washington has to form
[00:35:46] like an Avenger style team to track him down
[00:35:48] and kill him and get the declaration signed.
[00:35:52] And yeah, it's like it throws in every
[00:35:56] amazing acronym and an acronym.
[00:35:58] You can think of, you know,
[00:36:03] that's it's definitely a crazy movie.
[00:36:05] Yeah, it's the best way to describe it.
[00:36:07] Yeah, it's crazy and it's stupid, but it's fun.
[00:36:11] Yep.
[00:36:12] Yeah, the Channington plays George Washington,
[00:36:15] Will Forte, Abraham Lincoln,
[00:36:18] Jason Manzuchus is Sam Adams.
[00:36:21] Yeah.
[00:36:22] He's like a college bro.
[00:36:26] Yeah, Paul Revere turns into Robocop
[00:36:31] after his horse gets mutilated.
[00:36:33] See, he becomes one with the horse.
[00:36:34] Yeah.
[00:36:36] Yeah, it's it's it's crazy, but it's fun.
[00:36:40] It's like it's like a 10 minute gag
[00:36:42] that's stretched out across an hour and a half.
[00:36:44] And for sure.
[00:36:46] Yeah.
[00:36:48] Thomas Edison is an Asian woman
[00:36:52] and basically has Iron Man powers.
[00:36:56] Yeah, there's lots of cussing and it's really violent.
[00:36:59] Yeah.
[00:37:01] Andy Sandberg is a Benedict Arnold.
[00:37:03] Yeah. And Simon Pegg is a King George.
[00:37:07] Yeah.
[00:37:10] I like that idea.
[00:37:11] Yeah, it's fun.
[00:37:13] Read.
[00:37:15] And then TV wise, I.
[00:37:18] I.
[00:37:19] A Cobra Kai season four dropped and I've watched it twice already.
[00:37:25] Oh, nice.
[00:37:26] Yeah, it's great.
[00:37:28] I can't believe it's still solid this far in.
[00:37:32] It's only getting better.
[00:37:33] Just, you know, it draws heavily from Cried Kid Part Three.
[00:37:38] They bring back Terry Silver.
[00:37:39] I was interested to see how they would modernize him.
[00:37:43] And basically they start off the season by explaining a way
[00:37:45] that he's so crazy in three because he was just on
[00:37:47] cocaine the whole time.
[00:37:50] And you're like, OK, cool.
[00:37:51] He's kind of rehabilitated.
[00:37:52] And as the season slowly goes on, he starts falling back into his old ways
[00:37:55] and it's great.
[00:37:58] Yeah. And then, you know,
[00:38:02] the way they modernize it with like the, you know, the kids kind of have
[00:38:05] their own storyline in the show.
[00:38:08] You know, it's not just about revisiting Johnny Lawrence
[00:38:10] and Daniel LaRusso.
[00:38:14] You know, they have great story arcs and stuff that are going on.
[00:38:17] And then the season ender is a two-parter.
[00:38:20] That's just the All Valley tournament.
[00:38:22] And it's amazing that these kid actors are doing
[00:38:27] like martial arts at this level.
[00:38:29] It's great.
[00:38:31] So I don't know if there are wires or anything, but, you know,
[00:38:33] they have some amazing stunt work in that.
[00:38:37] So definitely check out season four and, God, I got to wait a whole year
[00:38:40] for season five.
[00:38:43] So it's a long way off.
[00:38:46] Because it's definitely not over at the end of this.
[00:38:48] It's definitely a cliffhanger.
[00:38:49] So I think they already started filming season five.
[00:38:52] I think I saw something about that.
[00:38:53] Yeah, they've been working on simultaneously, but they're not going
[00:38:56] to release it till, you know, the end of the year.
[00:38:57] But yeah, as I was watching this, I was kind of thinking like, man,
[00:39:00] you know, it is season four and they kind of started these kids
[00:39:04] in freshman year high school.
[00:39:05] So unless they're going to start doing, you know, seasons about them
[00:39:08] in college, like they're getting new kids or they're going to
[00:39:12] or it's just going to end.
[00:39:13] So season five might be the last.
[00:39:17] Interesting.
[00:39:21] Yeah, I think that's it for me.
[00:39:23] So I didn't watch a lot this week.
[00:39:28] I was prepping for a ballet who on Arseneck and old lace.
[00:39:33] And I decided, you know what?
[00:39:36] Now is a good time to show Arseneck and old lace to my girlfriend.
[00:39:39] And so I showed this was her first Carrie Grant movie.
[00:39:43] And I did apologize about this, Ryan, when I texted you because
[00:39:48] I'm like, this probably wasn't the smartest Carrie Grant choice.
[00:39:51] But she enjoyed the movie quite a bit.
[00:39:53] And I've talked about Arseneck and old lace on the show before.
[00:39:56] So I won't rehash everything.
[00:39:59] Researching Arseneck and old lace was a lot of fun, though,
[00:40:04] because there's not like I really wish there was like a little
[00:40:08] behind the scenes feature right on that DVD for that movie.
[00:40:11] I think it deserves it.
[00:40:13] I agree.
[00:40:14] But I think that digging up the best material that I found
[00:40:19] for researching that, Ryan was from five came back that Mark Harris book
[00:40:23] because he made Capra made that movie as an insurance policy
[00:40:28] for his family so that they could be financially secure
[00:40:31] while he took an army salary during the war to make why we fight.
[00:40:34] So he would only make like about four thousand dollars a year with the army.
[00:40:38] And he took the one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars
[00:40:41] director's fee and he was supposed to get percentage on the profits
[00:40:46] of Arseneck and old lace as the insurance policy for his family.
[00:40:50] But that but that film was put on the shelf for three years
[00:40:53] because the Broadway producers made them sign a commitment
[00:40:58] saying that we won't let you release this movie
[00:41:01] until after our Broadway run is done.
[00:41:03] And it didn't end its run until 1944.
[00:41:07] Yeah. So that's it's just it's it's insane to think that like Capra
[00:41:12] took this massive gambit, which he ends up doing that same gambit
[00:41:16] for it's a wonderful life, which is also not really a big financial success.
[00:41:21] But in the Capra spirit, I actually wanted to watch the movie
[00:41:25] that he made prior to Arseneck and old lace to kind of give myself
[00:41:29] a little bit of perspective on where he was at that time.
[00:41:33] And so I watched for the first time meet John Doe
[00:41:37] with Gary Cooper and our lovely Queen Barbara Stanwyck.
[00:41:42] Meet John Doe is very admirable, but a little messy.
[00:41:50] Have you ever seen it, Ryan?
[00:41:51] Not. It's actually one of those ones
[00:41:54] that you're not going to find a blu-ray of because nobody's bothered
[00:41:58] to pick this thing up. It's kind of like public domain ready.
[00:42:02] But I found a pretty good copy on Amazon.
[00:42:05] And the story concerns Barbara Stanwyck is a journalist
[00:42:09] who is about to be kicked out of her paper
[00:42:12] because a bigger billionaire has taken over the paper and is reshaping it
[00:42:16] and basically cutting cutting positions.
[00:42:20] And she writes an angry fake letter to the editor
[00:42:25] signed by a man named John Doe talking about all the ills in the world
[00:42:29] and all the ill cooperation and nobody getting along.
[00:42:34] And that he's so distraught that nothing will change
[00:42:38] that he's going to kill himself on Christmas Eve.
[00:42:41] And the letter gets published
[00:42:44] and it has such a strong response from the public
[00:42:47] that they now have to find an actual John Doe
[00:42:50] to fit the role of the letter that was written by Barbara Stanwyck's character.
[00:42:54] So they interview some people and they settle on Gary Cooper
[00:42:58] who assumes the identity of John Doe
[00:43:01] and takes on this very broad political cause
[00:43:05] of just be kind to each other and helping each other out.
[00:43:10] Just basic. It's just a basic morals element of it.
[00:43:16] And the film proceeds to be an issue of whether or not
[00:43:23] as a figure like John Doe,
[00:43:26] who's frankly being manipulated from the get go through Barbara Stanwyck's character
[00:43:30] will succumb to the character he's been inhabiting
[00:43:33] and also how do the politics of somebody like John Doe, quote unquote,
[00:43:38] intermingle with a bigger corporate concern or billionaire concern,
[00:43:43] which in theory, you could make this movie today
[00:43:47] and we've seen this movie made in several different ways.
[00:43:50] I think it's a good movie.
[00:43:51] I think Gary Cooper is great in it.
[00:43:53] And I'm not usually a big Gary Cooper fan,
[00:43:55] but I enjoyed him quite a bit.
[00:43:56] Stanwyck's great as she always is.
[00:43:59] There's never changing any of that.
[00:44:02] I would I'd love to talk to you about the ending of the movie,
[00:44:05] Ryan, after you watch it,
[00:44:06] but I feel like the ending is such a cop out
[00:44:09] because it's and I read history on why this is
[00:44:14] why this is the case.
[00:44:15] Like they were stuck on this ending so much that they changed it three times.
[00:44:18] So I guess this is the best possible ending
[00:44:21] you could have had in Golden Age Hollywood.
[00:44:23] But it's like it's almost like you'd want them to go with the most extreme ending
[00:44:27] just to make a good movie.
[00:44:29] Like I don't I wouldn't even care if I was if I wasn't uplifted by the end.
[00:44:33] I'm like, that was a good movie, but they don't do it.
[00:44:36] They don't make the they don't they don't make the plunge.
[00:44:39] And I and in a way, I don't blame them.
[00:44:41] Like it would have been like one of the most depressing endings
[00:44:43] I would have ever seen if they had gone through with that
[00:44:46] because they basically trap him in a corner.
[00:44:49] The John Doe character that like this is there's literally
[00:44:52] only one way that this could end the way it's supposed to logically.
[00:44:58] But it is it's a it's a very well shot, well put together.
[00:45:01] It's a cabra movie.
[00:45:02] Like, of course, it's going to look amazing.
[00:45:04] But this film is has a lot of flaws in that.
[00:45:09] And then the last thing I watched was The Tragedy of Macbeth.
[00:45:13] Joel Cohen's solo outing.
[00:45:16] It's great.
[00:45:17] It's very fucking great.
[00:45:19] The very streamlined version of Macbeth that turns into a gangster noir film.
[00:45:24] That's basically the way it's treated.
[00:45:27] Very lovely use of minimalist sets that work with expressionism.
[00:45:33] Denzel is great in this movie.
[00:45:35] I don't know how the fuck we haven't had him doing Shakespeare all this time.
[00:45:39] But God damn it, he's great.
[00:45:42] Corey Hawkins is in it as McDuff and he's wonderful.
[00:45:46] McDormand does a really good lady Macbeth.
[00:45:49] Stephen Root is in it playing the porter and he is fucking funny as shit.
[00:45:55] And it's only 104 minutes, so we're not talking like a Kenneth Branagh epic here.
[00:45:59] And given that Macbeth is such a weird thing to begin with as it stands.
[00:46:05] And like my closest association with it is Orson Welles' version from the 40s.
[00:46:10] This film fits so well in the Cohen style, even if you don't have Ethan in there.
[00:46:16] Like this is this was always destined to be a Cohen Brothers movie of some kind.
[00:46:21] So I guess if you are a fan of Shakespeare adaptations that take a chance
[00:46:27] and find a way to be easily accessible to people, this is like a good example of that.
[00:46:33] I don't see any reason why nobody could not get on board with this film
[00:46:38] if you are looking for a Shakespeare adaptation with some teeth to it.
[00:46:43] It's very audacious.
[00:46:45] It manages to create a noir film out of a very, very set period piece aesthetic.
[00:46:55] And I think those descriptions from the get go of it being a crime thriller
[00:46:59] were very accurate because it operates like a crime thriller.
[00:47:04] So yeah, I would check it out.
[00:47:05] It is in theaters now if you want to go see it.
[00:47:08] And I think if you've got Apple TV, you should have access to it by now or next week.
[00:47:13] I mean, everybody has Apple TV.
[00:47:16] Well, I found out my dad has it.
[00:47:18] I didn't realize he had it.
[00:47:19] Yeah, I didn't realize he had it.
[00:47:20] I guess he must have gotten it when he got a new phone.
[00:47:22] So I'm going to rewatch the movie and shoot.
[00:47:25] We'll loan you the access if you want to check this out, Ryan,
[00:47:27] because this is violent Macbeth.
[00:47:29] It's not like, you know, balls to the wall blood all over the place.
[00:47:33] But there it gets when it gets violent, it gets very fucking violent.
[00:47:36] Sweet. Yeah.
[00:47:39] Very good.
[00:47:39] And also if you like a good black and white for three movie aesthetic,
[00:47:43] Ryan, like to make it feel like an old Hollywood movie, this movie does the trick.
[00:47:48] Like I felt like I was watching a movie from 1940, 1948 on it,
[00:47:52] but with blood and guts in a decapitated head.
[00:47:55] So hell yeah.
[00:47:57] And witches and witches,
[00:47:59] this which is because it's Macbeth, but this witches and this which is creepy as shit.
[00:48:06] Anyway, that's all I watched this week.
[00:48:09] Yeah, I didn't watch too much.
[00:48:10] I watched a horror film called There's Someone in Your House, which is
[00:48:15] that sounds like the broadest title ever.
[00:48:17] I know it was a James Wan produced film.
[00:48:23] And I read on some website
[00:48:26] that it's one of the best horror movies of the year because it's a slasher movie.
[00:48:30] And you know how I like slasher movies?
[00:48:33] No, you don't.
[00:48:34] You like puppy dog movies. True.
[00:48:36] This is not one of the best movies of the year for horror.
[00:48:40] I thought it was pretty lame.
[00:48:43] It's one of those ones that tries to be too cute with what it is,
[00:48:49] which is a bummer because it opens really cool with a dude getting killed.
[00:48:53] But I picked out who the killer was immediately.
[00:48:57] There's some.
[00:49:00] Douchebag Stoner who keeps on bringing like pot into every scene
[00:49:05] and everyone talks about how great pot is.
[00:49:06] And it's just stupid.
[00:49:09] The premise of the film is this person is killing these teens at this high school
[00:49:14] because they all have a secret and he's going to kill you
[00:49:18] and then text everybody your secret.
[00:49:21] Like, you know what I mean?
[00:49:24] Guys, like, wouldn't that be the worst thing to happen to you?
[00:49:27] Hey, Ryan, did you see your secret?
[00:49:30] This sounds like how I know what you did last summer, but stupider.
[00:49:34] Yeah, pretty much.
[00:49:39] Yeah, it's just it's just boring.
[00:49:41] I mean, the blood and guts are cool,
[00:49:44] but it takes so long to get there that it's just it's a bummer
[00:49:50] because when I see a slasher film, I expect them to kind of be quick
[00:49:54] and have lots of.
[00:49:58] Not a lot of build up, you know what I mean?
[00:50:00] I mean, I don't mind a slow moving slasher movie as long as the payoff is good.
[00:50:04] But when the payoff sucks, donkey dick and I don't care.
[00:50:09] So yeah, I did not like it.
[00:50:12] It's interesting because it comes from the guy who made the creep movies.
[00:50:15] Yeah. And I mean, the violence is cool in it.
[00:50:18] And I think I gave it one and a half stars because the violence is.
[00:50:21] All right.
[00:50:23] Is it better than is it better than separation?
[00:50:26] Can you at least admit that?
[00:50:29] I don't know.
[00:50:33] I just hate I hate stupid teenagers and horror movies.
[00:50:39] Unless it's I mean, I know Friday 13th or stupid, but at least Jason is a cool
[00:50:44] antagonist, like they the this.
[00:50:49] I don't know.
[00:50:49] I like my slasher is strong and like,
[00:50:54] you know, six, five and unbeatable.
[00:50:56] You want to slash your monster?
[00:50:58] That's what you. Yeah.
[00:51:00] So it's whatever.
[00:51:01] If you like slasher films, you give it a shot.
[00:51:02] I mean, it is there are some pretty cool kills in it.
[00:51:06] But yeah.
[00:51:06] And the last thing I watched this week is The Last Duel with Ben Affleck and Matt
[00:51:11] Damon and directed by Ridley Scott.
[00:51:16] And it tells the story of a woman who claims she was raped by
[00:51:23] noblemen in France in the 1300s.
[00:51:27] And I love this movie.
[00:51:28] I thought it was really well made.
[00:51:32] I thought the acting was incredible in it.
[00:51:36] It lives up to its last duel at the end.
[00:51:39] And afterwards, I did some research and it's pretty accurate to what happened.
[00:51:45] They take some drama with how the events unfold between
[00:51:52] the two men.
[00:51:54] But what I really liked is it's told in three parts.
[00:51:57] And each part is from a different character's point of view.
[00:52:01] So the first part is from Matt Damon's.
[00:52:06] I can't remember their names because they're French names, but his
[00:52:09] from his point of view first about how he was wronged
[00:52:14] by Ben Affleck's Pierre.
[00:52:16] I remember that name.
[00:52:17] He's basically the man in charge of the land.
[00:52:20] And he gives all his accolades or his
[00:52:25] favoritism towards Adam Scott's
[00:52:29] Adam Driver's character. Sorry, Adam Driver.
[00:52:32] And so Matt Damon is, you know, jealous and filled with rage.
[00:52:38] So then they show it from Adam Driver's point of view.
[00:52:42] And then the last is Jody Homer, who plays the young woman in it.
[00:52:48] And I just thought it was really well done.
[00:52:50] I'm a big sucker for historical dramas when they're embellished
[00:52:53] with war and violence for some reason.
[00:52:57] Stuff like Braveheart and Gladiator, I love.
[00:53:01] I mean, it's a really well made film and they'll probably show up later
[00:53:05] next week when we do film explosion 2021.
[00:53:11] This week on Real Nerds podcast.
[00:53:14] We went to see Nightmare Alley.
[00:53:17] Zach, do you recommend Nightmare Alley?
[00:53:20] I do. I really liked it.
[00:53:23] As to how I appreciate this film, apart from the 1947 version is still kind of
[00:53:29] to be determined because I didn't have a chance to go back to rewatch Nightmare
[00:53:34] Alley this week and compare it to the 47 version.
[00:53:37] But I would say that if you are looking for
[00:53:42] a straight up adaptation of the book and if you are looking for
[00:53:47] Del Toro to have the room to play around for a pretty epic sized
[00:53:52] adaptation of what's essentially like a noirish novel,
[00:53:58] I think you're going to be very, very delighted by it.
[00:54:02] It's a downer movie, so heads up.
[00:54:05] But I really loved it.
[00:54:07] I think Bradley Cooper is great.
[00:54:09] I think Kate Blanchett kills it.
[00:54:11] I think Del Toro is really good at working with a solid cast
[00:54:15] and giving them really fucked up things to do.
[00:54:17] And I really appreciated it.
[00:54:20] Brad, do you recommend Nightmare Alley?
[00:54:23] I don't know. It's been like five weeks since I saw it.
[00:54:26] Oh, shit.
[00:54:28] Really?
[00:54:29] Maybe less than that, but it's been a while.
[00:54:31] You got an advanced screening of it.
[00:54:33] No, I just thought like the same week it came out
[00:54:35] and it actually came out like four or five weeks ago.
[00:54:37] So yeah, I remember being bored.
[00:54:44] I feel like it started halfway into the movie,
[00:54:47] which is like an hour and a half.
[00:54:49] Like it's like two movies, this movie.
[00:54:55] And the most interesting part was the second half.
[00:54:58] So there's a ton of setup for it.
[00:54:59] And I just didn't think.
[00:55:02] You know, you're following this shitty character.
[00:55:06] I guess halfway through, I was just like,
[00:55:08] I don't care what happens to this guy.
[00:55:10] So and it doesn't make me interested
[00:55:12] in discovering what the original was like.
[00:55:15] So I was like, you know, it looks great.
[00:55:18] Like it's fanciful.
[00:55:21] It's production design is amazing.
[00:55:23] But story wise, I just don't care what this guy is going through.
[00:55:29] Yeah, I recommend it to I actually like this movie.
[00:55:33] That's not one of my favorite movies of the year,
[00:55:34] but I do think it's an interesting.
[00:55:38] Morality tale and about.
[00:55:42] Yeah.
[00:55:44] And you're right.
[00:55:44] I mean, Bradley Cooper's character is a piece of shit.
[00:55:47] Yes, it's great.
[00:55:49] But I will say that Cape Lanche is a great femme fatale.
[00:55:54] And I got big Veronica Lake vibes from her in this movie.
[00:56:01] Yeah.
[00:56:02] Here's the trailer for Nightmare Alley,
[00:56:04] which by the way, before we started,
[00:56:06] I think is its biggest problem.
[00:56:07] Well, one is two hours and 40 minutes long.
[00:56:10] But also I don't think they sold this movie very well.
[00:56:12] I think that's why it's underperforming.
[00:56:13] Here's the trailer for Nightmare Alley.
[00:56:23] I will ask you simple questions
[00:56:25] you will answer in short sentences.
[00:56:26] Only what you believe to be absolute truth.
[00:56:29] Absolute truth.
[00:56:32] I can do that.
[00:56:37] Now, brief as you can.
[00:56:40] What is your name?
[00:56:43] Stanton Carlisle.
[00:56:47] Are you a true medium?
[00:56:49] Yes, I am.
[00:56:50] Mr. Carlisle.
[00:56:52] Doctor, how about that?
[00:56:54] Please lie down.
[00:56:57] Can you read minds?
[00:56:58] Yes, I can under the right circumstances.
[00:57:02] Keep your answers brief.
[00:57:04] What do I want?
[00:57:05] To be found out, it seems everybody else.
[00:57:08] Are you in contact with the beyond?
[00:57:10] Well, we've had our share of snake charmers in the past.
[00:57:14] We deal with them.
[00:57:19] You don't fool people, Stan.
[00:57:21] They fool themselves.
[00:57:25] I've given you a fortune.
[00:57:26] It's time that you deliver it.
[00:57:28] When does it end?
[00:57:30] I want to know.
[00:57:36] If you displease the right people,
[00:57:38] the world closes in on you very, very fast.
[00:57:53] Before you get to the plot, I agree.
[00:57:55] The trailer is very on the nose
[00:57:58] and doesn't do well to
[00:58:00] play up into the morality tale in a way that's cohesive.
[00:58:03] It's ill marketing.
[00:58:05] Yeah, I mean, I think it's a hard movie to market anyways.
[00:58:08] It's really dark.
[00:58:09] And then you got to sell the
[00:58:12] aesthetic of it. I mean, I think the aesthetic is really cool
[00:58:15] of the art deco stuff.
[00:58:16] And I loved Cape Lancet's office.
[00:58:19] I thought was really, really well done.
[00:58:23] And at Bradley Cooper,
[00:58:25] his man on the run
[00:58:28] and he eventually finds
[00:58:30] his way to a carnival where he kind of weasels his way
[00:58:34] into being part of the act.
[00:58:38] And he does so with Tony Colette's character
[00:58:42] and her husband,
[00:58:46] Zena and fuck.
[00:58:48] I saw a movie like Three Days.
[00:58:49] I can't remember characters.
[00:58:50] It's Pete. It's it's Pete.
[00:58:52] Yeah, Pete. Pete's a Pete.
[00:58:54] Pete is a
[00:58:56] suppose as a mind reader, but mind reading is a is a trick that he
[00:59:00] learns to teach him or that he teaches Stan.
[00:59:04] Yeah. So basically, Stan is now conning
[00:59:08] everybody.
[00:59:10] At the carnival
[00:59:13] to be liked by them.
[00:59:15] And then he gets in good with Pete and Zena.
[00:59:18] Pete is surprised that someone wants to learn his trick.
[00:59:22] He's also an alcoholic.
[00:59:25] There we meet
[00:59:27] Electra, who is Molly, correct?
[00:59:31] Talk.
[00:59:32] Yeah, it's Molly.
[00:59:34] I'm the oldest block.
[00:59:35] I'm having a hard time remembering things.
[00:59:37] Mary, yeah, I'm sorry.
[00:59:39] Played by Rudy Mora.
[00:59:40] They fall in love.
[00:59:42] But do they really?
[00:59:43] I think he's actually kind of using her in this
[00:59:47] to sell him.
[00:59:48] He's a con man through and through.
[00:59:50] And Del Toro doesn't make any bones
[00:59:53] about making Stan a piece of shit.
[00:59:56] Whereas I think that original film does because of the nature
[01:00:00] of what it has to do by the very end in the original version
[01:00:04] tries to lay sympathy and to Stan where it can.
[01:00:06] Yeah, and I think that's a product of its time.
[01:00:09] You know, all you would have had time was actually forced
[01:00:12] to usually have happy endings.
[01:00:14] Oh, yeah, there is.
[01:00:15] There is no way that the ending of the original novel
[01:00:18] would have ever been approved for 1947, not even close.
[01:00:23] So anyways, he eventually breaks free by killing
[01:00:29] Pete after he helps Willem Defoe's
[01:00:32] Clem in the freak show or geek show or whatever you want to call it.
[01:00:37] And he purposely gives him the wrong alcohol to drink
[01:00:42] and ends up killing him.
[01:00:44] He runs away with Molly and they go to to the big city, see?
[01:00:49] And they call in wealthy people into believing his shtick.
[01:00:55] And it slowly starts to unravel.
[01:00:58] But yeah, I mean, I mean, Brad is right.
[01:01:00] It is kind of a two part film where the first part is him
[01:01:05] taking advantage of the carny folk.
[01:01:09] And then the second one is him thinking he's taking advantage
[01:01:12] of the upper class people.
[01:01:16] I think this film really is rightfully so in love
[01:01:21] with expanding on the carnival in a way that the original film
[01:01:24] kind of has to condense in certain ways.
[01:01:26] I don't know if I'm like too bold in saying this, Ryan,
[01:01:30] but this is some of the best looking carnival footage
[01:01:34] in a movie since Freaks.
[01:01:35] Like this looks fantastic.
[01:01:38] Like and it but it but especially with the carnival,
[01:01:41] like it really, really lays into the reality of the carnival.
[01:01:45] And in the original version, you have
[01:01:48] and I don't want to make this just a comparison to the original,
[01:01:51] but I wanted to point out that the whole concept of the geek,
[01:01:55] which is tragic as shit that in the original,
[01:02:02] you you get a illusion to it.
[01:02:06] But here, Clem, played by Willem de Faux,
[01:02:11] who kind of runs the carnival,
[01:02:14] he is very unapologetic about the methodology he uses
[01:02:18] in which to attract people to the position of the geek.
[01:02:21] And that is incredibly rough to watch.
[01:02:25] Like that was one of the most depressing things
[01:02:27] scenes I'd seen in the movie.
[01:02:29] Yeah, that and I mean, he's, you know,
[01:02:31] they drop their geek off who's dying
[01:02:34] in front of the Salvation Army.
[01:02:36] And he's like, hey, man, I'll get you a steak.
[01:02:38] Let's get out of here.
[01:02:39] Yeah. And he just doesn't care.
[01:02:41] He when he goes through the con with him
[01:02:43] and he just sounds like so matter of fact about it.
[01:02:46] Like it's it's like watching in a con movie
[01:02:48] when somebody's explaining like how they're going to steal the diamonds.
[01:02:50] But instead, he's just like, no, I'm going to exploit
[01:02:53] a person's vulnerability to addiction
[01:02:55] for my own financial purposes.
[01:02:58] And there's a lot of illusions to the addiction to power
[01:03:01] in here that are laid into it.
[01:03:02] So it's so on the nose and that's what it's playing with.
[01:03:06] The the ideas of violence in this film
[01:03:10] also struck me huge because that original film
[01:03:12] is not that incredibly violent by comparison.
[01:03:16] I was the one thing that I really wish
[01:03:19] this film had done more and I understand why Del Toro did it.
[01:03:24] And I don't I loved him for doing it.
[01:03:27] I do wish that this movie pulled back on its violence a little bit,
[01:03:30] just a teeny bit to kind of like do the same methodology
[01:03:35] that you would have had to do back in that era
[01:03:37] to kind of pull back on the violence and just allude to stuff
[01:03:41] because there's some brutal fucking violence in this movie.
[01:03:45] I think specifically to that, to
[01:03:50] Ezra Grindel's face getting kicked in,
[01:03:52] but also when Mrs. Kimball shoots her husband,
[01:03:57] it's so fucking matter of fact and brutal and creepy as shit.
[01:04:03] It's and I think one of the reasons why I'll probably prefer
[01:04:06] the original film to this one ultimately is that there is
[01:04:09] something about the way it was filmed in that era
[01:04:12] as a noir film that still makes it stick.
[01:04:15] But Del Toro kind of pulled a true grit here,
[01:04:17] kind of like what the Coen Brothers did with true grit where
[01:04:20] you do have somebody that's being more faithful to the source material.
[01:04:24] And so that outshines many elements from the original film for me
[01:04:30] because it's allowed to be a little bit more honest.
[01:04:33] Yeah, Brad, you weren't as enamored with it
[01:04:36] and you kind of touched on it and the opening.
[01:04:40] Is there anything you want to add?
[01:04:42] Not really. I think I covered it.
[01:04:43] You know, like I said, I was pretty bored, you know,
[01:04:48] and then once it turned into the second half of the movie,
[01:04:51] it was like, oh, my God, like there's another whole movie happening here.
[01:04:55] Yeah, the carnival stuff was the most interesting to me,
[01:04:57] but I was just constantly wondering like where is this even going?
[01:05:01] And then I got to the second half of the movie
[01:05:02] where it really kind of kick starts into a pluck.
[01:05:05] Yeah, there's just so much setup.
[01:05:07] But luckily it looks so good
[01:05:10] that you kind of go along with it.
[01:05:13] Yeah, but yeah, the second half is like, oh, this is a story about this guy
[01:05:17] just tricking these people and then getting his come up and great.
[01:05:20] I haven't seen that before.
[01:05:23] Yeah, you know, I really liked how it played out.
[01:05:28] One, because I love the femme fatale kind of morality tales
[01:05:33] that, you know, are more on the nose,
[01:05:38] whether it's double indemnity or whatever, you know,
[01:05:42] it's always the guy who thinks he has it made
[01:05:46] and where he's playing everybody.
[01:05:48] He thinks he's playing Cape Lanchette's, you know, psychiatrist character
[01:05:53] where she actually turns the table on him and is able to read him.
[01:05:58] And when you go back,
[01:06:00] it's maybe I want to watch you get in kind of unpack
[01:06:03] what she says to him at the beginning in their first session
[01:06:07] where she says, you keep on saying that word never.
[01:06:09] And she basically seduces him to become a drunk
[01:06:14] to take his money to get rid of the guy that horribly scarred her.
[01:06:21] And that's the ultimate mind trick is not parlor tricks.
[01:06:26] It's a woman who is incredibly educated
[01:06:29] and, you know, basically makes him do her bidding.
[01:06:37] Yeah, I like the second half more to.
[01:06:40] I mean, Willem de Fa was great in the movie,
[01:06:43] but I love how it played out towards the end.
[01:06:49] Yeah, I'm one of the people who will go and say
[01:06:52] I appreciate both parts of this because it operates as an epic
[01:06:56] that circled its way back to the carnival.
[01:06:58] I get it.
[01:06:59] They're divided up into two sections
[01:07:02] very distinctly because not just because we fade out,
[01:07:06] but we are treated to different sides of the coin.
[01:07:12] I thought it was interesting in this one to just kill Grendel.
[01:07:16] That's a certainly a part that I appreciate as it circles in with that final
[01:07:20] that second half.
[01:07:22] And I will go out of lim and say that Kate Blanchett.
[01:07:28] This might be in my top five performances she's ever given
[01:07:31] because you're right, because you're right, Ryan.
[01:07:33] She is a great femme fatale.
[01:07:36] I like her in this more than I like Helen Rocker in the original.
[01:07:39] And that's safe. Yeah, I mean, I mean, Kate Blanchett is such an amazing actor.
[01:07:44] And she.
[01:07:46] I mean, I kind of went off it, but I still got to watch some of more of her movies.
[01:07:50] But I watch her movies and I just believe everything she does.
[01:07:55] Yeah, I mean, from the moment I saw her for the first time in The Aviator,
[01:07:58] I was like, this woman's got.
[01:08:00] Well, no, no, actually, Lord of the Rings was the first time I saw her.
[01:08:03] Yeah.
[01:08:04] But like outside of Galadriel, because that's a different type of role,
[01:08:07] like playing Kate Blanchett, Kate Hepburn was like a revelation for me.
[01:08:12] But it's incredible.
[01:08:13] Yeah. But like the I think that I kind of appreciate ultimately that this film
[01:08:20] because this film circles back to the carnival, we have to have this kind
[01:08:23] of epic rise and fall.
[01:08:26] It does seem bloated in places, but I really love the rich detail
[01:08:31] that Del Toro lays into this film.
[01:08:34] So I'm super appreciative that Fox Searchlight or Searchlight Pictures
[01:08:40] now still put this out when, quite frankly, Disney didn't have to keep
[01:08:45] this on their on their roster.
[01:08:48] They could have just dumped this shit while it was in the middle of production.
[01:08:51] And they kept their they kept to it.
[01:08:54] And I think we're all the better for it.
[01:08:56] It's a great Del Toro movie that will find its audience later on.
[01:09:00] Well, I don't think you're going to turn down the cast and the people who made it.
[01:09:05] I think you take that chance every time, personally.
[01:09:10] Yeah. But also, especially during a covid,
[01:09:12] during the time when we're still getting over covid, this movie is
[01:09:15] a very hard sell overall, because it is a very dark fucking movie too.
[01:09:19] Like I walked out of it staggering because I was just like, Jesus,
[01:09:23] like the world does suck.
[01:09:26] It's harsh in their assholes everywhere.
[01:09:30] Loan the score is fantastic.
[01:09:32] Andre Alexander, this watch score is fantastic.
[01:09:35] I love when he works with Del Toro because he gets to have some fun free reign.
[01:09:40] It's just great. Cool.
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