Ep. 465: Kent Stop, Won't Stop

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[00:00:59] and forever. I am Ryan on Zoom again with Brad and Zach. Hello. Hello. What up? Oh you know. New week, new president-elect. It's a good week. Yeah. I was like man a lot of people voted for Joe Biden and I go man too many people voted for

[00:01:22] Donald Trump. Now we know. Now we know. It wasn't a mistake last time. Well no, I just don't lie. I mean I didn't think it was. I'm not one of those weird conspiracy people but-

[00:01:34] Well I hope it was out of apathy like that was the difference but nope. No, it just proves. Like I've been saying for four years it just proves our country is more racist and sexist than we want to believe.

[00:01:51] And I mean I'm sticking to that assessment but it's a new day. It's beautiful in Colorado. Let's just have one more moment of pessimism. Ryan do we suck? No, no we're awesome. Okay. I mean we're good not about you but- I don't know yeah I'm pretty terrible. Yeah.

[00:02:10] Yeah, you know what I but what's really awesome is I think when they're going to be done counting it's going to be almost 80 million people voted against Trump which is awesome. That just means that his that people were sick of him as much as everybody else was.

[00:02:28] Although there's still like 160 million who didn't carry their way so- I know and it's so funny too because you know when you listen to the coverage and they say you know melon ballot fraud or whatever he's clinging on to you know you want to say

[00:02:44] that I think Colorado has been melancholy for like 20 years. Most states are it's just the ones why it took so long like Pennsylvania was the first year they had widespread melon ballots. Yeah, they threw it together really quick so. Yeah.

[00:03:03] Which they needed to do to accommodate everything going on with COVID too so. Yeah. A lot of things- Arizona as well so. A lot of things were at play. It'll be interesting when they make a movie about the last four years and this is the climax.

[00:03:17] I don't want to watch that movie. I know we lived it. Can we get a 9-11 movie like four years later? Uh yeah. 9-93 yeah. Yeah yeah because 9-93 and then World Trade Center after that and maybe like a little bit

[00:03:34] in between before we got Remember Me and then Zero Dark Thirty so. Yeah. Before we get into news though I should tell people what we do in our podcast. That was a really weird opening we just did.

[00:03:45] Every week on Real Nerds we see a new movie sometimes in the theater and we podcast that experience to the world. Last week we saw Let Him Go and we'll be talking about that film. Are we doing a vampire movie from like 2010? Yeah.

[00:04:00] Oh that's Let Me In gotcha. Yeah first they let him in then they let him go. You see the finish of the trilogy. Anyways we also talk about movie news. Movies are coming out on Blu-ray movies that we've watched throughout the week

[00:04:21] and I mean I guess we went a little political there. Sorry about that. Yeah. But hopefully. I'll cut it out. Yeah you don't have to cut it out. But hopefully we don't have to deal with that anymore.

[00:04:37] He'll go away quietly in the night and it's a beautiful morning. But yeah. I had a Mr. Blue Sky playing him ahead for most of the week. Imagine baby group dancing as it goes going on. So actually just one quick thing before we go on.

[00:04:57] How are your parents Brad? Dude. Yeah we may need to cut this out. It did yeah it's not been a fun week I tell you what. Yeah I'm lucky that but you know my. Your family's alignment.

[00:05:16] Yeah I mean I wouldn't marry Laura if she voted for Donald Trump that'd be a divorce. But you know in my profession I'm an albatross there's not very many of us in my profession by us I mean leaning blue in my profession. You don't say.

[00:05:39] Yeah but for some weird reason the really obnoxious supporters have been really quiet this week. It's been pretty awesome and the best part is so I'm gonna get so two years ago year and

[00:05:54] a half ago I made a bet with someone who works for the county that Donald Trump would get impeached and we bet lunch at Mountain Prime which is our like upscale steak place in Idaho Springs.

[00:06:09] So that happened and I just got like a sirloin or something but then we had a bet that he would lose the election and this time I'm gonna get the $70 fucking tomahawk steak and it's gonna taste so good.

[00:06:22] Is that the one we're like if you eat it in under an hour you like get a cash prize. I mean I wish it was like the great outdoors but no I don't know how big it is but it's

[00:06:33] $70 and you know normally I wouldn't jack him up but he just got promoted to being a sergeant so he makes a lot of money now so he's gonna pay. Oh what is this? It's gonna taste so sweet.

[00:06:46] Is it a steak butchered from the only like the godliest of cows? That seems like a lot for a steak. Tomahawk steak is a rib eye that has the it's like a huge thick part of the rib eye that still has the rib bone connected to it.

[00:07:01] Oh okay that does sound delicious. Yeah it's gonna be awesome get it medium rare get some every day they have a new risotto there and it's really good. I might even get like a soup just to make the bill really expensive.

[00:07:17] I gotta find a way to make the bill like $306 and then say hey this is how many electoral votes Biden got. Do you remember that David Cross bit it's in one of his stand up specials where he talks

[00:07:28] about like a dessert with gold shavings on it and that's what you should try to find is like the most expensive dinner dessert menu that has like gold shavings on it. It's a single piece of gold. And I think that restaurant is actually in Trump Tower.

[00:07:45] Oh man so you just tell him with his sweet tax cut he can pay for the steak you know. Totally. But we talk about movies and Brad Segway that happened 10 minutes ago is gonna happen now this is movie news. It's real news.

[00:08:12] Yes even amid celebration there is a mourning to happen and it comes in the form of Alex Trebek who passed away at the age of 80. I'll take what is sadness for 500 guys this was sad it wasn't unexpected. The answer is the year 2020. Yes exactly.

[00:08:31] It's pancreatic cancer but yeah 2020. Thank you for leading to that Brad. He had been diagnosed with stage 4 cancer last year so this was kind of expected. Yeah I got so DC Comics they don't put stuff in previews anymore because they dropped Diamond as a distributor.

[00:08:50] So they have this digital one called DC Direct and they got rid of all their Wonder Woman 84 tie-in covers for December so I'm guessing in the next day or so that's gonna be announced as being delayed again.

[00:09:02] Yeah taking me yes but anyway back to Mr. Trebek not really a film guy but he was populating our televisions for years like and if there's anybody in here who didn't watch Jeopardy at some point in their lives if not constantly then you're

[00:09:16] just lying to yourselves because super it was a wonderful show my family and I have we still watch it together and we tally each other to figure out who answered the most questions in the house. But he did appear in a bunch of films mostly as himself.

[00:09:31] He even appeared on Rugrats as a character called Alan Quebec who was the host of a game show when D-day. Wait a minute he's also from Canada. He goes to rubber rats at Writers. Yeah I know they're just super super on the ball there with their naming skills

[00:09:47] but he also appeared on The Simpsons the X-Files. He was in Groundhog Day as himself and white men can't jump, short cuts so yeah. He's spy hard apparently. What? He's a spy hard apparently. Yeah that Finding Forester as the host of Jeopardy, Charlie's Angels.

[00:10:09] He was on Saturday Night Live more than once obviously because one of the biggest SNL sketches within the last 20 years has been Celebrity Jeopardy. In fact... Oh man he's in Free Guy. Ryan Reynolds. Oh wow really? He's playing himself.

[00:10:29] So that'll be his opening credits for the new 20th century studios will be a montage of him correct? Like the way they did for Stanley. But yeah no I mean you know that's a major legacy to leave behind of a

[00:10:48] game show host where like in a world where I feel like games shows like Jeopardy and Even Wheel of Fortune don't particularly exist in that form anymore. Like they've changed forms and shapes so often in the past 20 years

[00:11:03] and they're a little bit more reality driven and less about like the formality of like you have this much time to answer this question or so and so. He will definitely miss. He hosts a couple game shows before Jeopardy but there was a

[00:11:20] carnation of Double Dare in the 70s that he hosted. Yep he did Double Dare. Within that same time frame he also did High Rollers Stars on Ice, the 128 thousand dollar question, Pitfall, Battle Stars, Starcade. He doesn't start his gig on Jeopardy until 1984 and he also kind of

[00:11:43] There's a Super Jeopardy. Yep Super Jeopardy in 1990 to tell the truth. This is a fun story that I did not know happened in 1987 or 1997 I should say on April Fool's Day he and Pat Sajak switched positions so Sherebek hosted Wheel of Fortune and Sajak hosted Jeopardy.

[00:12:04] So that's kind of cute. They had a friendly rivalry over the years so nice little Benny Allen thing going on for them. But hands down the one thing that is amazing is like he's the host of a game show that captured the nation's attention more than once

[00:12:24] within the last 20 years because of the people who were on a roll. And if you watch the show, if contestants got an answer that was obviously wrong, he had this wonderful way of being snarled without being an asshole.

[00:12:40] He was like a fly by burn that he was able to apply to the people who were not getting the obvious questions right. So yeah, it's very much a shame. Hence the inspiration for Celebrity Jeopardy on SNL. Yeah.

[00:12:57] Actually on Will Ferrell's final show for SNL Alex Trebek came out himself to congratulate him. A lot of those videos are available on the SNL app and on YouTube. So if you want to see them, it's weird.

[00:13:12] The real life Sean Connery, the real life Alex Trebek and the real life Bert Reynolds are now all gone. So now they all have to be replaced by their double gangers which are Will Ferrell, Norm MacDonald and Darrell Hammond. So maybe Darrell Hammond could host Jeopardy

[00:13:30] because I don't think you'd get Will Ferrell to do it. But maybe Darrell Hammond can do a good Trebek impression or something. But yeah, it has been said that he filmed enough shows to last up until December 25th

[00:13:43] but no producers of the show have announced any plans for a replacement host yet. So, but... Will Ferrell be do it? Yeah, but we do... You know what? Maybe we should get Brad to do it.

[00:13:54] He's calm enough that he could pull off the Trebek kind of personality on the air. Well, Trebek was also smart enough to play the Jeopardy game. Brad, all you gotta do is read some books. It's very simple. Alright, I'll study everything. Everything.

[00:14:13] Yeah, you gotta be done by the end of the week. Yep, come on in. Ryan starts shipping out your entire library to Brad. He's gonna need it. Actually they should get like Ken Jennings to do it or something. Oh yeah, he makes a lot of sense.

[00:14:26] That'd be a great idea. Yeah, but anyway. So yeah, moving on, there wasn't like a whole ton of stuff that happened. I think the biggest one is that Johnny Depp has dropped out of the Fantastic Beasts franchise following the court case in the late...

[00:14:46] Has he dropped out of it or they're like, hey! He was sadly asked to leave. He was asked to leave and he... Let me finish. He positioned it as he is agreeing to step down at Warner Brothers requests.

[00:15:01] So you could say he dropped out because he didn't go kicking and screaming. However, yeah, so I don't know what they're gonna do with Fantastic Beasts between this and some other stuff that's been going on in the Potter world.

[00:15:14] I don't even know if anybody really cares if those movies get made or not at this point. I think it's already in production. Oh really? Okay, well then there... I think it's just a couple of weeks. I would just bring back Colin Farrell.

[00:15:26] That's what the general consensus is across the internet is bring back Colin Farrell, which I'd agree with because he's really good in that first Fantastic Beasts movie. He's not my issue with that movie. That was one of those reveals at the end of the first Fantastic Beasts

[00:15:38] I think people groaned at. Yeah, well and this was... I mean, I don't know. I didn't see either. So Colin Farrell and Johnny Depp played the same villain. Which is his own appearance and form. So you could just be anybody in the third one?

[00:15:55] Yeah, something like at this point you could get literally anybody else. You know, you can get Ryan Reynolds to do it in a feasible world. Yeah, so this isn't that weird at all really. Which I kind of want to see Ryan Reynolds be an evil wizard.

[00:16:11] I don't know why but anyway yeah, so we'll see how everything's developed. The movie is set to debut in summer 2022. I didn't realize that was the king. So okay, well we'll see how that works out. We'll move on to another franchise.

[00:16:27] We got technically a first image of Spider-Man 3, but it's not really an image. Tom Holland posted a picture of himself wearing an extra mask on top of a Spider-Man mask with the tagline, Wear a Mask, I'm wearing two. My favorite thing from the last week in MovieWise

[00:16:45] is that Tom Holland flew from somewhere in Europe and the next finishing uncharted. And the next day he was filming Spider-Man, like yes. That's what happens when you're in your early 20s and you're full of caffeine. You can do whatever you want Ryan.

[00:17:01] That or I mean here's the thing is if Sony's going to pay him, I don't know probably $20 million for Uncharted and then they're like we need you to shoot Spider-Man back to back. Here's another $20 million. All right, sounds good.

[00:17:16] Ryan, do you think I could pull off playing Spider-Man because I want $20 million? Yes. Or like a bizarro world Spider-Man. I mean this is the multiverse. I could be the Spider-Man from the universe that sucks. Anyway, let's move on.

[00:17:39] Christopher Nolan had some stuff to say about the Tenant release which I honestly thought was going to be him kind of back lashing but he does make a fair point. I think that interview he's spot on. Yeah, he said and this is the quote,

[00:17:56] this is the big quote from the Los Angeles Times interview that he did. Warner Brothers released Tenant and I'm thrilled that it has made almost $350 million but I am worried that the studios are drawing the wrong conclusions from our release.

[00:18:07] That rather than looking at where the film has worked well and how that can provide them with much needed revenue, they're looking at it where it hasn't lived up to pre-COVID expectations

[00:18:17] and we'll start using that as an excuse to make exhibition take all the losses from the pandemic instead of getting in the game and adapting or rebuilding our businesses in other words. He's absolutely right because once the pandemic hit

[00:18:31] your expectations for bajillion dollar movies went out the window and you as a studio already make enough of that off of home video and digital alone so you have to adjust your expectations if you want to keep that tradition going instead of just letting it go.

[00:18:48] It's weird too like when you go into grocery stores and there's tie-in products for Wonder Woman and the Minions. I haven't seen toys for Dune. Ryan, so at the top of the pandemic I'm a big fan of those Pillsbury place and bake cookies

[00:19:06] and at the top of the pandemic I was shopping and like one of the one week I went out and there were boxes upon boxes of Minions taking place and bake cookies and I scooped them all up. Nice.

[00:19:20] There was a reason that I gained a little bit of weight during the big part of the pandemic was because all of them were Minion cookies going right into my stomach. Now we have, I mean there's still Wonder Woman stuff

[00:19:34] and Call of Duty stuff out there but like Wonder Woman stuff like Dorito advertisements were there for months because the movie was supposed to come in the summer so Doritos don't give a fuck. They're just going to put out their product anyway.

[00:19:46] But yeah and Nolan also said that long-term movie going is a part of life like restaurants and everything else but right now everybody has to adapt to new reality so I think he has a lot more hope that theatrical exhibition will stick around

[00:20:01] and I tend to believe what he says. I don't know how your guy's theater was but when I went and saw Let Him Go mine was sold out. Mine was dead but it was also the afternoon. And then I was reading Variety and it made almost $5 million.

[00:20:21] That's not that bad for only being in like 500 theaters or something. And when we talk about the movie today, you know like given what the movie is in a world that has become accustomed to tentpole films

[00:20:34] it's like the fact that it made this much in the middle of this pandemic is actually a testament to its abilities. I'm actually kind of curious to see how our movie of the week next week does. I'd be really stoked if it did really well.

[00:20:46] Our movie next week is Freaky. With Vince Vaughn. Because they're actually promoting it and they're sticking to their release date and it's a Friday the 13th. So I think it might work out well for Blum House. Yeah, well you know the house of Blum needs no help.

[00:21:07] They're doing just fine. I don't know if you know this. They have Halloween in their back pocket, Brian. It's the greatest thing to have in your back pocket. Halloween. Anyway, I'll stop talking about a great franchise now.

[00:21:20] And we'll move along to this is a story that I found was very interesting. So I didn't know this happened. Did you guys know that the remains of Richard the third were found under a parking garage? Yeah.

[00:21:31] I did not know this but apparently Jeff Pope, Steve Kogan and Stephen Frears knew about it and they're turning it into a movie called The Lost King. And it's set to be about the woman who led the charge to get the remains dug up

[00:21:47] because when she did the research and concluded that it was underneath the parking garage, people wouldn't believe her but she pressed on and got the job done. So this sounds like a fun movie. If anybody hasn't seen Filomena, you should watch Filomena. It's really good.

[00:22:04] It proves that Steve Kogan is not just a strictly comedic actor. And actually if you watch Stan and Ollie, it proves that he has a lot of dramatic range. And then Brad, this is news just for you.

[00:22:18] It's not like strictly a confirmation of anything other than people want to do this but... Sorry, my phone's... Bobby Herbick who was one of the screenwriters of the 1990 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, which we did a retro episode on,

[00:22:34] he has had conversations with Steve Barron and Brian Henson to try to do a reboot of the 1990 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles to basically do another film within the timeline of the original Ninja Turtles movies that you are such a fan of. So basically like TMNT4?

[00:22:55] See, that's what I think they should do but the quote is weird because he's like, yes, the answer is yes. We're trying to make that happen. We want to do a reboot. We got our fans to come on... Fans come to us on Instagram and they're like,

[00:23:07] why don't you do a reboot of our first movie? We'd love to do it. And it seems like that terminology of reboot was used incorrectly because it looks like they want to just establish another entry in the series.

[00:23:21] Yeah, it sounds like more of a sequel because the 2014 movie was the reboot. Yeah, so my question is Brad, what would you want it to be of being a fan of this particular iteration of the Turtles?

[00:23:33] I know you like all Turtles but I know you love these movies. Yeah, I've been saying it for years. Do the live action, you know, Henson company suits and prosthetics and just use the where the wild things are face mapping

[00:23:52] so just the heads are animated and then you can do... They never touched the sci-fi aspect of, I mean, Turtles mutating a sci-fi already but like the triceratons and the utrons and all the space stuff you could do for a fourth movie.

[00:24:09] Yeah, they never did Crang either in those movies. Yeah, Crang in those movies would be just a new trauma. Crang is a product of the cartoon so... Okay, thanks.

[00:24:22] Speaking of Ninja Turtles, hey Brad did you just get the regular cover for The Last Ronin or did you get any variants?

[00:24:28] I got a couple variants. Yeah, I got the... I mean the regular cover is hard to find anyway but I got the Kevin Eastman one where it's drawn like the Dark Knight Returns cover Nice.

[00:24:40] And then two from Ben Bishop. He was one of the artists that showed up at Denver Comic Con a couple times so he had two covers.

[00:24:51] Yeah, I don't know why I'm asking is because I mean I got it and I got just the regular cover just because you told me about this story. I'm like, oh that sounds really cool and it's already selling for like $30.

[00:25:04] Yeah, the Santa Luca cover is actually at Malhi Comics right now for $75. Yeah, it's like the... And they have like 70 covers so I'm not going to bother trying to get them all.

[00:25:17] No, I mean I wouldn't get them all. It's like one of the hottest books I've seen before it's released to send, well I guess punchline but... Yeah, I'm blown away. It's great to have that much demand for a Turtles book.

[00:25:31] That in the comics is really cool. Did you read it? Oh yeah. That's a great comic. I called it. I'm so proud of myself.

[00:25:37] Is it just me Brad or a Turtles kind of on a kick this year because there's been a lot of Turtle News more so than I've ever seen before? Well, it was the 30th anniversary of everyone's favorite Turtle movie so... Everyone's favorite. Yes, across the board.

[00:25:51] It's my favorite. Like I've been re-collecting the toys and you know like one of the figures in the box you know before this year you know you can get for like $50 and now there's only for like $200. Yeah.

[00:26:04] Incidentally listeners need to go to... if they have Instagrams, need to go to Radley TMNT to see Brad's awesome collection. My collection, yeah. That's one of the coolest Instagram pages I follow hands down because I'm just like I had...

[00:26:18] There's one you posted today of like Pizza Donatello or something like that but he has like a... Is it hot dog sticking out of his mouth or something? It looks weird. It might be a pepperoni.

[00:26:29] Okay. The angle of it made it look like a hot dog and or a cigar. Yeah, so pizza tots and turtles. They had these little pizza boxes in their chest that you could load with pizzas and they would shoot them. Oh, that's awesome.

[00:26:43] But yeah like I was on my work trip when the last run in Drops was freaking out the whole time where if it was actually going to end up in my old slot. Yeah. And last week, Malhi didn't put the regular series 110 in there.

[00:26:56] So I had to go to different stores to find all the covers. So I opened a second slot over at Hero Headquarters just to cover my last run bases for the rest of the run.

[00:27:07] But yeah, all the way through Michigan to Denver, I went to four or five shops and just within a day, no last run in so... Yeah, it's interesting. It's awesome. Yeah. I love when comics get like that. It's really popular, yeah.

[00:27:24] Hey, you got your quarantine? You got plenty of time to read. And then the last piece of news needs to go interrupted while I say this out loud.

[00:27:34] So it's been reported that because of their removal from Peacock, the Harry Potter movies are no longer streaming on any service. Now they did reach out for me to give a quote on this matter and I responded with by the fucking Blu-rays idiots.

[00:27:50] They started to get like hostile about it, but this seems to be popping up every single week is like something left to streaming service and it's easily remedied by get the physical copy.

[00:28:02] But I did find that was interesting is that like, I guess the television rights, which also extend into the streaming rights of Harry Potter are owned by NBC Universal. And they took it off of Peacock to have it ready for showings on sci-fi and USA Network this month.

[00:28:22] So that things flip flopping around like crazy because everybody had dibs on it for TV release. So it's interesting to learn more about how television distribution works for film. But yeah, if you want Harry Potter on Blu-ray and or DVD, they are pretty inexpensive to get pretty inexpensive.

[00:28:41] Unless you have the ultimate additions like I do and they're like, you know, Well, they're out of print aren't they? Yeah, they're selling for over like $100 now. Yeah, that's why I'm not even gonna bother.

[00:28:51] I do like the look of them on your shelf though. I'm not going to lie. I'm kind of like, damn, I love those. But yeah, that is news. Oh man, that is a sausage in his mouth. I knew it. Well, I said hot dog, but yeah.

[00:29:07] Or hot dog. Yeah, whatever. When I first saw it on the page, I was like, it looks like a cigar. Yeah, but yeah, no, the other turtles that oh no they all do. No, just Leo and Don like sausage in their mouths.

[00:29:23] Yeah, Mikey's got a pizza and Ralph has nothing. Ralph doesn't eat. He's too angry to eat. Too brooding to binge on food. Anyway, yeah, that's news. Last week, Karen didn't get us her catching the classics in time. So this week we're going to play it right now.

[00:29:48] Karen, what are you watching? Hey nerds, this is Karen for part 37 of catching the classics. And today is a double feature. I will be talking about Akira Kurosawa's 7 samurai and the original version of The Magnificent Seven, the one with Yolbrener and Steve McQueen.

[00:30:10] So on the whole, I mean granted, I just finished watching Magnificent Seven and it's been a couple of weeks since I've seen 7 samurai now. But it was kind of amazing like as I was watching 7,

[00:30:24] or The Magnificent Seven, like how much of the 7 samurai's plot points came back to me. And I was like, oh yeah, that reminds me of that thing. And that's like that other scene.

[00:30:34] And on the whole, I don't know if I could say that I like one over the other. I think the pacing and the character work in 7 samurai was better. And granted, that's because they have a lot more time.

[00:30:51] The movie is three and a half hours long and Magnificent Seven is two hours. Which I have to admit, the copy of the DVD that I got from the library on Magnificent Seven was starting to like mess up in a couple of scenes.

[00:31:07] So I had to skip the training montage and I had to skip part of the, I don't know if it was the fight, but kind of like the aftermath of the first fight.

[00:31:19] The Magnificent Seven like apparently rode out of town, came back in and like all the bandits were in the town and it was like, oh surprise. It's like, oh I guess they left. I didn't get to see that scene. So admittedly, I am a little biased.

[00:31:37] But yeah, like I said, I think the characters in 7 samurai were a lot stronger. But on the other hand, I think Magnificent Seven had better theme work. I think it also had like a better, like more rousing fight there at the very end.

[00:32:00] Where the fact that the Magnificent Seven, you know they choose like, okay we're gonna leave to keep the villagers safe and everything. And then once they get to the border and they decide like, no we're gonna go back.

[00:32:18] Like that was a much stronger choice and it made the following action sequence a lot more, like I was a lot more invested in it. It's interesting seeing the parallels between the characters because I could see having watched the 7 samurai,

[00:32:40] I could tell like, okay Yule Brenner, he is the, I can't remember the samurai's names at all. But he's like the leader, he was the one who, the analog of the guy who pretended to be the monk

[00:32:55] and who was the leader of the group and who kind of helped coordinate all the other samurai. And then interestingly, the one that kept calling Chico, the kid, he was kind of like a combination of Mifune's character from Seven Samurai and the young up-and-coming samurai.

[00:33:20] So he was kind of a blend of both those characters, which was interesting for me because I was like, okay so is he gonna live or is he gonna die? Because in Seven Samurai, the kid, like the young samurai lives at the end,

[00:33:35] but Mifune's character who's kind of like the rogue of the group, he's not like really a samurai. And they again, they kind of translate some of that over into the gunslinger character, the young gunslinger. Mifune's character dies in Seven Samurai. Spoilers obviously.

[00:33:56] So I was a little bit worried, I was like, okay is he gonna live at the end? And then he ends up living, but I could see all the other ones, I could see their parallels to the guy who was slinging the knife around.

[00:34:12] I can't remember everyone's names. He was a lot like the... Yeah, I can't remember anybody's names, but the kind of old and weathered samurai who was like, he was like the expert of the group other than the bald monk one.

[00:34:32] Yeah, it's kind of interesting to see the parallels how they introduced Bernardo, cutting wood, similar scene in Seven Samurai. I was like, oh that's the woodcutter guy. Even though he's not an actual woodcutter but he was just woodcutting because he needed money.

[00:34:49] I liked the villagers better in Seven Samurai to some degree. The villagers in Seven Samurai are a lot more desperate, they're way worse off.

[00:35:02] Like they are just living in like total squalor, they have like rags for clothes, their homes are made out of like mud and sticks and everything. And they just have like absolutely nothing. So you feel more sympathy for them.

[00:35:22] But on the other hand, they're also kind of like... Because you get to spend a lot more time with them in Seven Samurai, you get to see a lot more of their flaws. And in the Magnificent Seven, the villagers seem...

[00:35:40] Well obviously they're not like well off but they seem way better off than the villagers in Seven Samurai did. Like their homes are made of rock and stone and some kind of sod or something.

[00:35:54] And they have like a big festival and they seem to have like furniture and shit. I was like, oh they have a chair, wow super fancy. So I didn't feel like they were...

[00:36:08] I definitely felt like their situation was bad, but I never felt like they were as desperate as the villagers in Seven Samurai were. But they were also more likable and I felt like...

[00:36:20] Again, I missed some scenes, but the decision to let the bandits in was actually really interesting. Because like I said that doesn't happen in Seven Samurai. The villagers are... You know once the Seven Samurai show up, the same scene happens where nobody comes to greet them.

[00:36:39] And Mufune's character rings the bell and yells at all of them like hey we're here, why aren't you greeting us? But then once they start the training montage as it were, everyone buys in immediately and they're never like oh... Is this even worth it? Should we keep fighting?

[00:36:59] There might have been a little bit of that, but not to the same degree where they actually let the bandits into the town. That was completely new for the Magnificent Seven and like I said I think it made the climax a lot more interesting.

[00:37:14] A lot more rousing as it were. But yeah, it was interesting seeing the differences between the two. I like the Magnificent Seven. I also, I mean I love Yule Brenner and Steve McQueen did a great job. All the actors, all the main seven actors did a great job.

[00:37:36] The villagers felt really awkward to me. Their delivery was like really awkward and stilted. And it bothered me initially but as they got more scenes with the Gunslinger characters, I think it worked because that one scene where the... Again, can't remember anybody's name.

[00:38:05] The character who wears the gloves, the Gunslinger who wears the gloves. He has the nightmare. He's having a PTSD flashback or something and he gets really anxious and he's freaking out. And the two villagers come in and they're like, you're okay. You're among friends now.

[00:38:26] He has this beautiful scene where he's talking about how he feels bad for the life he's lived and life he's lived is not this great thing and it's a beautiful scene. And again, it's like he is just going at it, just chewing the scenery.

[00:38:45] And they're just kind of like, they're just there to give him something to play off of. And in those instances I think it works. And there are a couple of similar scenes where the little village kids come to talk to Bernardo

[00:39:00] who that was a great little subplot with the kids adopting him. That did not happen in Seven Samurai and I was glad that they made that change. But yeah, both movies are good. I like the fact that Magnificent Seven was a lot shorter.

[00:39:19] But at the same time I also kind of missed having all that character work and all the background. The way they assembled the Seven doesn't take nearly as long.

[00:39:30] And like I said, the kind of turn of events that happens with the bandits versus the town is a little bit different in the movies. In Seven Samurai it takes way longer and it's pretty much just like a straight battle the whole time.

[00:39:50] And they're never like, oh we think that they're gone for good. No, they knew that they would keep coming back. Again, the bald monk character in Seven Samurai was my favorite. So that translated over with Yule Brenner who is one of my favorite actors in Old Hollywood.

[00:40:08] And I was like, oh man if they made the change and Yule Brenner's character dies I will riot. Thankfully he did not. Because the lead samurai makes it out in Seven Samurai at the very end. But he impressed me more.

[00:40:25] He seemed to be a lot more strategic and thorough. And he was going around the town and he's like, alright we will do this here. We will make a bridge or we will destroy this bridge or we will build a wall or something.

[00:40:38] Like he was very thorough in his strategy. And I felt like Yule Brenner was just kind of like, he was smart for sure but he wasn't as smart as the guy in Seven Samurai. As says Analog in that movie.

[00:40:53] But again, it just translates a little different because you just don't get to spend as much time with them. So the character work is in some instances a little thinner. But they focus a lot more on the themes I think in Seven Samurai or in Magnificent Seven.

[00:41:13] Or at least me as a white American audience. It just, like I got the whole life of a gunslinger is terrible, a lot easier than I got whatever Seven Samurai was trying to say.

[00:41:29] I think theirs was more about the villagers and the peasants and how their lives are really hard. Because that's the thing is in Seven Samurai they kind of hammer in the differences because it's more like a caste structure in Japan at the time.

[00:41:50] And the Samurai are kind of like their own class. Like they are their own thing. Like you're born into a Samurai family, you become a Samurai. And the Mefune character he is, he's not as, he was not born into a Samurai caste.

[00:42:11] So he's kind of looked down upon but eventually the other Six Samurai, you know, except him as one of their own even though he's socially not a member of their caste or their class structure or whatever it is.

[00:42:27] So there's a difference there that it's like the Samurai is like a group of families that you are born into whereas in the Old West you can become a gunslinger no matter what your background is. So there's just a difference there.

[00:42:46] Anyway, I'll give both movies four or four and a half out of five stars. Because they're both good in their own ways but like I said, there's just pros and cons for both.

[00:43:03] So anyway, don't know what I'm going to watch next time because these are getting fewer and farther between but whatever it is hope it's good. Alright talk to you all later. Bye. Yeah Seven Samurai is awesome. Seven Samurai is awesome.

[00:43:19] YoBrenner in Magnificent7 is awesome too. I'm glad she liked them. I own it. I've never finished it. Seven Samurai? Yeah, not that it's bad. It's just I did finish it but I own it. You should definitely kick back to it. The great flick.

[00:43:34] Yeah, it's hard when you've seen a lot of modern movies, you know, their derivative of that so. I was looking at it from that perspective I'm just like oh cool this is like the ORA giant story so. Yeah. Yeah, I think you're in.

[00:43:53] And then this and in this version of the Magnificent7 you don't have any people going where's the goat? I will always bring that joke back. I love when you I love listening to that episode of you just laying into the ADR of that movie. Over one line.

[00:44:11] It's just unnecessary because like it reminds me there's a panoswald skit where he talks about. Oh the dubbing and like additional lines. Can you say stuff off camera? The transitions it's seen. And that's all I can think about.

[00:44:30] Like I said, I don't know if we're recording at the time. Eight floor lingerie, seventh floor, men's department.

[00:44:38] I don't know if we're recording at the time but I asked Brad if I like over exaggerated that and it's only $5 at Best Buy so it might be something I buy just to see if my memory of it is way over exaggerated. I don't think so.

[00:44:58] It should be a commentary if it is as bad as you say it is we just do a commentary about it. You could just bitch on it for the length of the movie. Hey Brad can we actually still go around town with you right now? You can. Cool.

[00:45:17] Hey film buddies, follow me around Denver. So the 88 Drive-In is the last game in town again. They are featuring the Smurfs to start and then Paul Blart Mall Cop and yeah and then finishing the night with Fury which I haven't seen so.

[00:45:44] So they want me to come late at night? Okay. Yeah, yeah, online up although it's so dark out so early that late at night is like 10 o'clock.

[00:45:54] I finally watched Fury for the first time not too long ago and at night with those with some of those scenes would probably be pretty awesome. So a lot of flashing going on there. Yeah, interesting lineup. Yeah. Not sure what the connection to November.

[00:46:11] I think they're all Sony films. They are all Sony films. I don't really know shit like that. Like you ever wonder why you remember things like that? You shouldn't and you totally do. You're a real nerd. That's right I am. I know movie studios release films.

[00:46:28] Here's the thing Ryan we spent all this time worrying about which studio was putting out what that we forgot who founded America at one point so you know, like we put a priority on one or the other.

[00:46:39] I mean I don't know my grades were not great in school so maybe I'm just thinking in the room. Movies come out on Blu-ray and Ultra HD. This is what's happening the week of November, what fucking days? November 9th or 10th. Ryan what are you talking about?

[00:47:02] It's December 25th. Merry Christmas. November 10th. Can it be January 20th yet? Yeah. Oh yeah I said wake me up when January begins. Is there a new Green Day album coming out? Yeah yeah. I worked with Billy Joel Armstrong he's a really nice guy. DVD release to Blu-ray.

[00:47:25] Anyway Blu-rays. Alright Ryan we've got a slew of stuff. I'll start with the big one is that The Office the complete series is coming to Blu-ray you can get that in the nice big old box set. That's sweet. Yep this is what I'm talking about.

[00:47:40] I forgot and they only dropped it like six bucks so it cost me like $110 I was like fuck. Oh you're in trouble. No that's alright. It's gonna be like the end of Home Alone movies where you know Laura just yells out

[00:47:56] Ryan you spent how many dollars on The Office again? 111. See that's when I'm like should I wait until Black Friday? Let me let me bring this back around to The Office. I'm gonna be the charge in my account she's gonna go no please god no. No no no.

[00:48:18] At this point in our relationship she's just like whatever. And you just look at the camera. She's like I have gotten better though buying Blu-rays and stuff so she is proud of me.

[00:48:34] Yeah Ryan you've told me about ones that you've resisted the urge on that I'm like I can't believe you have willpower that strong. Why are you the way that you are? Every time I try to have a little fun.

[00:48:54] I am excited though you know here's the thing is yeah it's $100 but I was looking it's like 37 discs. 37? In a row? And it's gonna be on Peacock where they have commercial breaks during it. Actually you should get both because the Blu-ray has different edited shows than streaming.

[00:49:23] That's right. This is an instance where that if you're an Office fan you should have both. Yeah. Anyways continue on with the next story. No it's fine I just got another request for another quote regarding physical media and I said buy it!

[00:49:40] So but the big movie release this week in terms of a new film is Bill and Ted Face the Music is Coming to Blu-ray. So you can pick that up.

[00:49:50] I kind of want to I'm definitely gonna get it but I have this weird feeling that Shout Factory may do something with it at some point or try to redo their Bill and Ted set. I'm hoping that'd be cool.

[00:50:02] And then Brad something you told me was gonna happen that I was like eagerly waiting for that Money Python is has not only been remastered as you alluded to but now we've got a Blu-ray version of it.

[00:50:14] Money Python's Flying Circus the complete series one through four is coming to Blu-ray. So I will definitely be picking that up because I'd love to see what those transfers look like.

[00:50:24] Kino Lorber is putting out Amazon Women on the Moon with Ryan I've never seen this movie but I've seen clips from it. Have you watched before? No but it's really infamous for being really shitty. Really? Okay. So I've never seen it.

[00:50:40] The clip that I've seen the most from it is the parody of the Invisible Man where the guy thinks he's invisible but he's just walking around naked throughout an entire tavern and it is pretty funny.

[00:50:52] What I do like about Kino Lorber is they like hey we'll license that movie. Oh yeah. They put out so many Blu-rays. Hey some point for the next couple of films I'm about to discuss.

[00:51:04] One of them that they're putting out is Bustin Loose with Richard Pryor and Cicely Tyson from 1981. But really the creme de la creme of this we get to talk about old Clinty again because three of his films are coming to Kino Lorber Blu-ray.

[00:51:22] You will get such classics as The Beguiled, The Iger Sanction and Plain Misty For Me. Now all three of these films have their merits.

[00:51:32] Iger Sanction is the weakest one but it does have George Kennedy in it and it is an interesting mountain climbing movie so I would recommend it.

[00:51:41] The Beguiled is very, very good despite the fact that it's the most unlikeable I think Clint Eastwood has ever been in a movie intentionally. And then Plain Misty For Me is actually a wonderful slasher film that I think Ryan have you seen Plain Misty For Me?

[00:51:58] You would like it. It's a very nice little tension filled movie with Jessica. Jessica Walters from Arrested Development plays essentially the killer in the movie and she's really good at it. So yeah but if you want to check those out please do. They are a lot of fun.

[00:52:17] Screen Factory is also getting in on the game this week. They're putting out Brides of Dracula, a Hammer Horror film from 1960. And they are also putting out War of the Colossal Beast which if you've watched MSD 3K you have seen this film in some form or fashion.

[00:52:33] But now you can watch it on its own merits. It's a bird-eye Gordon movie and those are always a lot of fun. They're not like terrible but they're also not great either. Like they're just, they are what you think of when you think of 50 sci-fi at many points.

[00:52:49] They're also putting out a movie called How to Make a Monster from 1958 which I've never seen before. But some of these are ones I might just buy blind by.

[00:53:02] And then it looks like Paramount Pictures for whatever reason is putting out the Odd Couple 2 and yet I can't get the Odd Couple 1 on Blu-ray. So I'm gonna just say that sounds ridiculous on all fronts. But never mind my bitching about that.

[00:53:21] Warner Archive is putting out Tennessee Johnson with Van Heflin and Lionel Barrymore from 1942. And Criterion is putting out a trials wild film called Girlfriends from 1978. And it looks like that is virtually it.

[00:53:43] So this is totally off topic but for some reason on Blu-ray.com they have the 2020 Mulan listed. I think that doesn't come out till December. But have you seen the steelbook for it? It's amazing. Live action and the animated are both looking pretty good.

[00:54:01] Yeah the live action one is like this water color. It's badass. So I'll be getting that. I think that comes out in December though. I still need to see the movie. Well I think we're all waiting technically I guess except for Corinne.

[00:54:16] Yeah Best Buy doesn't have a date for it so... I've been watching an unboxing video of the office set and all the cases are the same size. Which is funny because the first season was only one disc I think even as a DVD. Yeah.

[00:54:36] I'm interested to see how they handle the 4-3 frame on that season. I really hope they just up converted it and... Yeah if they trim off the top and bottom a little bit whatever you know. Yeah. I guess on streaming.

[00:54:57] Hey Ryan I do have one more that might interest both of us coming from Arrow. They're doing something called the American Horror Project and their first volume is coming out. These are US horror releases that have just never really gotten any attention or release.

[00:55:13] But there's three films in the pack. The first one is The Witch Who Came From The Sea, Melissa's Carnival Of Blood, and The Premonition. I think they release one of these every year. This one's volume one it says.

[00:55:29] I remember reading it maybe they've released them in Europe before. Okay yeah because Arrow kind of moves back and forth or the US arm works differently. But yeah this might be something to check out Ryan. Yeah for sure. Also the last one actually is The Last Dance.

[00:55:49] The Michael Jordan documentary from ESPN is now available on DVD and Blu-ray. Or you can watch it on Netflix because that's where they're primarily streaming it right now. I liked it. It seemed like it was very, very once cited but you know like whatever.

[00:56:11] I knew virtually nothing about the bowls so I only knew Michael Jordan was fighting for the rights of the world with the Looney Tunes in Space Jam. And that's... Actually I point out Barnes and Noble is having a 50% off criterion sale right now so take advantage of that.

[00:56:33] I got The War Of The Worlds. Oh you too? Yeah I went to the one in Littleton and they have a lot but I think that one might be the most popular one for criterion.

[00:56:48] Because they're constantly restocking it but it seems like they don't have a huge selection of them. You should go to Color Boulevard because that's where I got mine and they seem like they had everything. Nice. Except for Parasite that was sold out. Yeah I'm kind of holding...

[00:57:07] I can't remember when Irishman is supposed to come out but that's what I want to get. But I already sent my list off to Ryan like I'm looking for holiday and only angels have wings.

[00:57:17] Yeah and I only got The War Of The Worlds because I spent $100 on the office. And I totally forgot I pre-ordered and I meant to keep on looking at it to see if it was going to drop.

[00:57:30] And then I get an update from US Bank saying charge Amazon and then Amazon send me your item of shift. I'm like well... Can't go back now. Yeah I mean I guess I could send it back but I mean whatever. Oh actually... Nobody says back the office.

[00:57:47] And let's be honest Ryan you really got The War Of The Worlds not for the movie. You just wanted to hear a crystal clear version of that broadcast from 1938 that we all love the most. Yeah. Yeah sure let's go with that right?

[00:58:00] I love the cover art for it. It is beautiful artwork. Have you seen the movie before Ryan? Yeah. Oh god I do like the visual effects. Yeah many years ago. Yeah George Powell really interesting cat. But yeah that's Blue Rays. We watch films throughout the week.

[00:58:23] So yeah this is the stuff we've been watching. Brad what did you watch this week? I watched a few things. Starting with... Oh I don't have my list up. What did I do? Sorry. No you're not. Starting with Poltergeist which I've never seen before. Oh! The original from 82.

[00:58:46] It was playing ahead of Friday 13th at the drive-in a couple weeks ago. But I got there late so I got in I think halfway through the movie. And it's actually the whole story of Spielberg ghost directing it basically. I can see how it's edited together kind of.

[00:59:11] There are some cuts that just feel like they're piecing unfinished work together I guess. But it was fun to... I wouldn't say it was scary or anything. But it's fun to see where a lot of stuff from pop culture has referenced it. Like the whole there here.

[00:59:34] I think I always attribute it to a different movie. So there's that. Yeah it's really just a family is in a house and... One day they just start getting haunted by Poltergeist.

[00:59:49] And I'm surprised at how little the real estate company figured into it considering what the plot was. Well I think all you need is those small scenes with James Caren to basically imply what's going on with the real estate situation of that house.

[01:00:08] I feel like it would have been a strong B story. Because really the movie is just the ghost doing weird things to everybody for about an hour of the movie. What do you say? No, nothing. I was making an adjustment in my chair.

[01:00:29] Oh yeah and then there's kind of like the whole real estate company building all the houses on a burial ground. Just kind of figures into the end really quick. So I'm interested to watch the remake which has Sam Rockwell in it.

[01:00:45] Ryan, I'm going to defer to you on that one. It's okay. But the effects are pretty impressive for its time. Like a really creative work. When everything gets sucked into the closet, when things float around the room, it's actually... I was pretty impressed so...

[01:01:11] Yeah, the man, Craig Teenles and Tarenoff is still haunting me. That's such a good effect. And sliding him around the kitchen. And the chair stacking with the clarity of streaming, you can actually see...

[01:01:32] It's a single shot where the table setup is all clear and then it pans over to the kitchen part of the room. And then as it pans back to the left, you can see the plant in the corner shake just a little bit.

[01:01:44] To where they move stuff around. There's like a grip hiding under there. So that ruined that illusion. But I did try to figure out how do they... There's a removable wall, I guess, to get that many chairs in there that quick.

[01:02:01] They're probably all screwed together but the door is not that big in any of the spaces. As a filmmaker, I was trying to dissect that. Hopefully, guys, it's alright. It's weird with the whole Spielberg and Hooper thing.

[01:02:16] I find it really hard to believe that people could just toss aside Hooper's involvement in that movie so casually. There's a lot of stuff in that film where you're watching, you're just like, this is clearly something that Hooper's in control of. He wasn't inept.

[01:02:34] I feel like he was instrumental in the scares part of it. Whereas Spielberg probably... And that's where the editing comes in, where it feels like Spielberg probably re-edited it toward the family story. Like reinforced that. That would hold more water in my head. It's actually funny.

[01:02:56] Ten Gina, the medium character has been getting a lot of play in the news with pictures of her in front of the wife. I was going, this house is clean. It came out in 82, which I didn't realize, the same year as ET. Interesting.

[01:03:14] Then I got to watch the Ninja Strolls movie again in theaters as a fathom event. Which would normally be cool, but it felt like they were streaming it off of YouTube. It felt like it was the VHS standard framing of everything and the frame rate was off.

[01:03:39] All the dialogue came out of the right speaker. So the center. The S-square screenings played much better. The audience wasn't too bad. It was a couple moms and their kids and two other nerds, I guess. Pretty decent turnout. Were they fake nerds? Because we're real nerds.

[01:04:09] Everyone but us is fake nerds, dude. Then I got to see a... This is a weird one. There's a movie called Action USA playing at the draft house. All I saw was the thumbnail of just car stunts going on. It's pretty cool to check it out.

[01:04:31] Then I was a little late so I missed the opening Q&A segment. So I started watching this movie. This movie that celebrates classic 80s real stunt action, real car chases. Real people falling out of buildings and off of bridges and gunfights. It's all practical.

[01:04:53] I'm sitting there watching it thinking it's a modern movie that's... Honoring the 80s action aesthetic. It's so meticulously accurate. I couldn't believe it. In the vein of, did anyone see The Love Witch? Yeah. I thought it was like that because the dialogue is so bad.

[01:05:17] I thought it was a parody but this is an actual movie from 1989 that draft house has re-released. It says that in the descriptor for it on Alamo. Yeah, I don't read. I just look at cool pictures like cars blowing up.

[01:05:33] Alright Ryan, you're going to have to host Jeopardy!naft. Yeah, so it's... This woman is tied to this diamond heist. And then the FBI is called in to protect her after her boyfriend is murdered by the bad guys trying to find out where the diamonds are.

[01:05:56] And it's just bad dialogue and 80s cliches and horrible treatment of her. Everything she does gets everyone else in trouble because she's the woman. And everyone's super mean to her and then...

[01:06:15] Yeah, the FBI guy is a buddy cop dynamic and they just kind of go cross country trying to avoid these bad guys. And at one point, like the bad guys hire this freelancer who like he's this tough guy.

[01:06:31] And he says, Lyon's like, you know, they don't make a bullet big enough to stop me. And like she's just sleeping in her hotel room and she wakes up and he's just right there after you thought he was dead the whole time.

[01:06:44] And he kidnaps her again. She's constantly getting kidnapped. And, you know, they go to this... Like one of the partners Blacks, they go to this Coway bar and, you know, he's uncomfortable the whole time.

[01:06:59] And they spend an excess amount of time dealing with the girl who you buy tickets from to get into the bar. It's like, why are we slowing down the movie for a dispute over how much it costs to get in? Yeah, it's just...

[01:07:15] The only really impressive part is that the stunts are all real. You know, the earliest on the movie is a guy hanging out of a helicopter as it flies through Texas. That's really cool.

[01:07:27] And then there's just tons of car chases on sidewalks and like this is 89 and everything. So they have more free range to do that. So yeah, not a good story, but you know, it's there for the action. So... It's in the title. What's that? It's in the title.

[01:07:51] Exactly. Although it's not across the USA. It's really just Texas. And that's all I watched. Zeg? All right. A lot of rewatches for me, but some I haven't talked about on this show before. I rewatched The Petrified Forest, Little Caesar and Public Enemy, and All Through the Night.

[01:08:12] So I've had a bit of a gangster kind of week with those. It's weird. I would love to talk to James again someday, not just on this show in general, but also about The Petrified Forest because I recommended the film to him years ago.

[01:08:27] He watched it and he and I had very different views at the time about the reception of that film. And like now when I look at it, I started seeing from his lens a little bit more because it's basically,

[01:08:40] it's a gangster film set in this last chance diner where Duke Manti, the world famous killer, is holding a bunch of people hostage in the diner while he plans his getaway. And there's a lot in it about intellectualism versus animalistic nature.

[01:08:59] So it's just a conversation I'd love to have with him again at some point, maybe on another yesteryear or something. Every watched to be or not to be. That movie's still great. Ryan and I will be talking about it soon on yesteryear.

[01:09:15] And then, but the big thing that I rewatched is in part of the Orson Welles research. I, Keena Lorber did a transfer of The Stranger that I didn't know existed. So I picked it up a few weeks back and I sat down to watch it.

[01:09:32] So The Stranger if nobody's seen it before, it's Edward G. Robinson, Loretta Young, and Orson Welles in the movie. Edward G. Robinson plays a government man who's set with the task of apprehending Nazi war criminals

[01:09:48] who have escaped to South America and then has started blending into American society. And the character that he's after played by Orson Welles has emaciated himself in this small American town and is marrying one of the daughters of a high judge in society.

[01:10:06] And the movie basically is, it's basically a Nazi hunter movie and it plays out. It's a movie that Welles directed because he wanted to prove that he didn't glow in the dark in his own words,

[01:10:18] that he could make a movie that wasn't artistic, that was just a typical run of the mill thriller or suspense movie. And what he actually ends up doing is proving that he's at the forefront of film noir

[01:10:30] because the film comes out in 46 around the time that noir is starting to gain traction. And you watch the film, you'll see a lot of different motifs in the visual scheme of the film

[01:10:43] that reflect his style but also bleed into the noir look that we all know so well. Ryan, actually I think it's a movie that I think you'll like a lot because it doesn't drag.

[01:10:54] It's a quick, quickly paced film and Edward G. Robinson is just basically out hunting a Nazi in this small town America. But I will say that the Kino Lorber transfer of it, it's done through the Library of Congress and it was a preserved print.

[01:11:12] I have this weird feeling that there might be a better transfer out there nowadays because, and I'm sure I'll find one within the week, but the print that they had was very, very beaten up.

[01:11:25] There's audio dips in quality constantly as if though they lost elements of the soundtrack. But it didn't deter me from the movie. I'd seen it before. It's still wonderful. There's a wonderful scene at the end involving falling off of a clock tower that is,

[01:11:43] it's actually one of the reasons why I think Ryan will like the film because something happens to a specific actor in that movie that I think you can enjoy.

[01:11:51] But then yeah, and then I rewatched The Awful Truth today at the Film Club and it was just reveling again, not just in Grant but Bellamy, Ralph Bellamy as Dan is just still,

[01:12:07] Ryan, like when we were watching it at the Alamo, remember when we could go see movies like that at the Alamo?

[01:12:14] But remember when we were there, like it just seemed like everybody was laughing at virtually every point you could but like everybody was really digging Bellamy in it. And he's such a charming, lovable goof in any movie he's in for the most part that like I,

[01:12:32] it's one of those things where like it would be a very long task to do but I'd love to go through every single Ralph Bellamy movie period because he did get pigeonholed more or less into that guy who never gets the girl role.

[01:12:47] But like a few weeks back, I rewatched The Wolfman and he's the detective in The Wolfman so he's not even like there's no love or interest issues with him. He's literally just trying to hunt down who's murdering people in this town.

[01:13:00] So but he's got a great range for it so, but anyway yeah and that's all I watched this week.

[01:13:07] Yeah, I did not watch that much either. I've been between the election results I would watch Friends so I've been going back through my favorite TV show Friends and it's really fun rediscovering episodes you love.

[01:13:26] And just enjoying the show again. I think you can get it on HBO Max if you want to stream it. But I have the fancy complete series set.

[01:13:38] Also today I watched Back to the Future on 4K with my buddy and it's Back to the Future is one of those movies that every time I watch it, it moves so quickly.

[01:13:52] You know you remember lines in it and I'm just always reminded about how much I love the movie as a kid. And as I get older, I still absolutely cherish this film. I think Michael Keaton is so great in it. Michael Keaton? I mean Michael J Fox.

[01:14:13] Oh god I want to deep fake that. He'd be a good doc. He says wait a minute you built a time machine out of a DeLorean and I don't know. And the effects still hold up really well. It actually looks really great in 4K.

[01:14:37] Yeah, I just I love that movie and Kellan really liked it. His favorite part was when the dog drove the DeLorean. Oh, Einstein. Yeah. Dog is driving how can that be? Everybody work.

[01:14:54] And the last thing I watched this week is I got to Jason Goes to Hell in my box set and it has a new 2K scan. So it looks better than it's looked before. That'd be bad. The film is still a mess.

[01:15:13] And it is missing a quick scene in it of this dude getting his wrist broken when he tries to punch a possessed person that's Jason. And so there's a really quick scene where his the two bones pop out of his arm. That's not in it.

[01:15:32] They have a 40 minute interview with Adam Marcus on it. Who's the director and writer one of the writers minutes. Yeah. Wow. And, you know, he's really enthusiastic and I like listening to him.

[01:15:50] But then as the interview goes along because the first part of his him talking about how he really got the gig he was only 23 or 24. He got it because he's friends with Noel Cunningham who is Sean Cunningham's son.

[01:16:03] So then when he went to film school, he was offered after he got out. He he wrote my boyfriend's back, which was originally titled Johnny Zombie.

[01:16:14] And so when Disney bought it they changed it from in his words a really dark comedy to what it is today, which I still kind of like that film. When you know Lorber did their really huge sale.

[01:16:27] I got I haven't watched it yet. There's a collector's edition Blu-ray got of it that I'm interested to check out. But anyways, he does care about the franchise.

[01:16:37] But again listening to him, he always has an excuse and he always blames the fans for not understanding his vision for Jason goes to hell. And it's kind of a great artist when you blame them. Oh yeah, dude. Audience for your failure.

[01:16:56] Yeah. And here's the thing I get that he is proud of his film and I'm not taking anything away from the film.

[01:17:02] I mean a case in point is he's talking about what he would do different now that they have a way to go back in and add CGI to things. And he talks about there's a scene in the film for the they go to the Voorhees house.

[01:17:17] I don't know why the Voorhees house is still standing and it's all decrepit. The film doesn't make any sense. Anyways, the camera pans down and it and the name Voorhees is on the mailbox and it's misspelled.

[01:17:29] They forgot an O and he blames the prop guys for not spelling it right. But then you go but dude, you still kept the shot in the movie. You don't need that shot. It's an establishing shot. You're looking at monitor. Yeah.

[01:17:46] Or you have a script supervisor who's like, hey, that's not right. Dude, that's on you at the end of the day. If a movie doesn't work, it's on the director.

[01:17:55] And I get that he likes some things in it, but to call the fans that it's their fault that they don't get it, that it's everybody else's fault for not understanding what he wants. I think it's just really near-sighted and doesn't. I don't know.

[01:18:13] Like there's moments in it that are great like the gore and it's pretty cool. I always have a problem when Jason has a tucked in shirt. I don't know. It really bothers me like he takes the time to tuck in his shirt.

[01:18:25] You know, he does it in Jason lives. That makes more sense because his shirts untucked until he kills like the commando guy for paintball and then he takes his utility belt and all his weapons and shit. But now he's a zombie so why would he care at all?

[01:18:43] I mean like in Jason goes to hell he has like a button-up shirt and like a belt. It's really weird. And there's an interview with Kane Hodder on the disc too and he talks about how he doesn't like the movie at all.

[01:18:57] I can imagine so he's not really in the movie that much. Yeah, well he's not disappointed that he's not in the movie. He talks about that, of course, the exposition and trying to make it as a body swap movie. It just doesn't work right.

[01:19:13] And I'll always have an issue with it. I did a Denver Pop Culture con and I did a panel with Aaron Gray who plays Jason's sister in it. And Jason is reborn by a...

[01:19:28] He's like some worm demon and at one point he crawls up her crotch after she's dead and goes through her vagina to be reborn. And she said that she did the film because her son was a fan of Friday the 13th.

[01:19:45] But they didn't tell her that that's what was going to happen and that's not her in it. So the first time she saw it was when she went to the premiere. And I just think that's sleazy. Yeah, that's definitely not a wonderful outlook.

[01:20:02] You know when I talked to her on the panel she was so nice and she was really gracious about it. But then you could tell that it still bothered her and it bothered me too because it's like she's being violated and she wasn't being told about it.

[01:20:15] And she might have been cool about it if they said, hey, just so you know, at this point he's going to crawl up your... go inside your vagina and that's how Jason is going to be reborn.

[01:20:25] I think she might have said, hey, can we do it a different way? I don't know. I was wondering this as you were talking Ryan because I don't like that movie either. But is it possible that Marcus's reactions to fans is in part by like...

[01:20:51] I think you're probably more fair than most people who will lambast the movie. Is it just that he's just like got so fed up with people giving him shit that now he just uses that as like a fucking comeback?

[01:21:06] No, the only reason I say no and I don't know him, he's welcome to come on the show and defend himself. Yeah, by all means. He's not an unintelligent person. No, and that's the thing is like he's passionate and he understands it.

[01:21:22] But I think it comes from a place of arrogance where he thinks he's smarter than the fans. Right. And that's my only issue is you're making a film and yeah, I know that Friday the 13th is a high art cinema.

[01:21:39] But there is an established fan base to it. So if you're going to remove Jason from it and you're going to make a different movie, I'm okay with you making a different film.

[01:21:52] But if it doesn't work and you know it doesn't work because there's a whole scene with Crate and Duke and the...

[01:22:00] Stephen, the actor's character's name where Crate and Duke has to explain the film for like five minutes because they didn't do a good job explaining what's going on. So they have to have a scene of Crate and Duke telling the audience what's happening in the movie. Yeah.

[01:22:21] And I think that's just that's when you know the film's out of control and I remember reading, I'll have to go back to my Crystal Lake memories.

[01:22:28] I'm pretty sure Sean Cunningham had to take over at some point because it wasn't getting done and he was treating actors bad. But you know, it's...

[01:22:39] So yeah, there's a level of arrogance to it that I don't like and it comes across in every interview I've read or seen him in.

[01:22:46] And he does have a funny intro though when you watch the film he says, hey thanks for buying this movie for the fourth time. And I was thinking, I said I have bought this movie four times. My ultimate thought because like my...

[01:23:01] I don't know how actually like super involved he was in that Texas Chainsaw 3D thing. But like that was my actual first taste of Adam Marcus with a franchise before I ever saw Final Friday.

[01:23:14] And my impression of him is like I appreciate that he wants to think outside the box. I just feel like he's picking the wrong places to do so. Agreed. Whatever. He's more than welcome to come on the show and defend himself. Yeah.

[01:23:31] But yeah, like I said it's hard. Like he's really passionate about it. And I mean the gore in it is pretty awesome. Everybody refers to the lady who split in half.

[01:23:42] But actually I think that one of my favorite shots is the corner whose face is like mashed in between the I guess the bench or something. And his face goes like through it. And then when Jason pulls him out it like pills apart is pretty awesome.

[01:24:00] I actually do love the FBI sting at the beginning. Like that's a fun scene. There's moments, it has moments but they're just too fleeting for it to be a good film. Yeah. And that's what I watched this week. This week we went and saw Let Him Go.

[01:24:21] Brad, should people see Let Him Go? Yeah, I think it's a pretty good movie. It's intense. It's also kind of like a romance story. Not as actiony as the trailer would have you believe but really powerful.

[01:24:38] It's all that measured like tense meticulous lead up to all the good stuff. So definitely worth checking out. Zach? Yeah, I think you should. So I will just say before we get into everything that the trailer did not completely misled me as Brad said.

[01:25:04] This was a lot more reflective than I thought it would be. But one thing I'll say off the bat hands down, it's a really solid efficient film. I don't know if it rises to anything greater than it needs to. It's very simple.

[01:25:21] It's very straightforward and it's got top notch performances across the board. So yeah, you'll be surprised when you watch it. This is one of my favorite films of the year. I think the quietness of it, the performances are all amazing.

[01:25:40] The director has this video where it's called a 60-second film school and he talks about how scenes you can make a scene tense by just a look. And I'll talk about the scene after we play the trailer. And it's pretty great. And he's pretty spot on with it.

[01:26:01] Here is the, you should go see this film. It's awesome. Here's a trailer for Let Him Go.

[01:26:37] Now when you're looking for a wee boy, I'll find you.

[01:27:25] Him and his mother. Your grandson. He's a wee boy now. You're with me on this, right? Right behind him. He hit Mona. You hit your wife. Like... Don't start what she can't finish. So right off the bat, I didn't know this movie took place in the 50s. Yeah.

[01:28:26] Looks great though. It opens with this really quiet, really great... The score in this film is incredible. Really quiet mood setting thing and Kevin Costner and Diane Lane are at their home with their daughter-in-law and their son. And they're repairing a fence.

[01:28:47] The son takes the horse and then the horse comes back with no rider. And Kevin Costner finds his son, has died from the horse kicking him off. And the next scene, like this is what I love about this movie. So the next scene is...

[01:29:04] Kevin, I can't remember... George. George is, he's sad and Diane Lane is tying his tie and he's wearing all black. And you think he's going to a funeral, but he's actually going to his daughter-in-law's new wedding with her new soon to be husband.

[01:29:20] And you realize that that is also sad that he'll be losing his... Maybe not seeing his grandson as much and... You know, it's a really moving film.

[01:29:34] And then it goes into that the new husband is abusing his daughter-in-law and his grandchild, that Diane Lane, who she sees them, Margaret, she sees that happen. And when she goes to bring them a cake to check on her grandson, they just get up and leave.

[01:29:52] And Diane Lane's character decides she's going to go find him and there's a... And they go to North Dakota to find their grandson and that's pretty much the plot of the movie. Yeah, like... It's had a before very simple, like it's not...

[01:30:10] Like it's very much those same kind of like... It follows that mold of like, you know, parents, you know, coming in to save the day kind of thing. But I was like the first...

[01:30:26] Halfway through the movie, I was like this is the best geezer splitation movie of the year because it is like... Diane Lane and Kevin Costner are grandparents on a mission. They're not messing around.

[01:30:36] What I like about it ultimately is like because of that romantic angle that Brad alluded to, there's a lot of room for them to actually contemplate why they're making the decisions they're making in going to pursue to get the grandson.

[01:30:52] Because at a certain point when the film becomes super violent, that's when a lot of questions get thrown into play. Like I guess since we're in spoiler territory now, we can kind of talk about it but...

[01:31:07] When they finally track down the Wee Boy, the Wee Boy has stayed in the middle of fucking nowhere. The Jeffrey Donovan brings them to the fucking house and they have that scene with Blanche, the mother of Donnie, their daughter-in-law's new beau.

[01:31:30] That was the FBI guy in Honest Thief, right? Jeffrey Donovan? No, not... One of the Wee Boys was... Oh yeah he is. ...the dog? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was also in the shockingly evil film from last year.

[01:31:47] And he's been in J Edgar and some other stuff that we've all seen him through stuff. But he's actually really good in the movie because he plays creepy super well. I was trying to figure out like, I've seen this guy recently, what was that from?

[01:32:01] Would it have been Fargo season 2? No, it was Honest Thief. That's the point I was making. Yeah, Honest Thief. But so anyway, but they have that dinner scene that's super tense, super terrifying.

[01:32:18] And by the time that they have the confrontation where Costner gets his fucking fingers cut off, when he's recovering, she's still trying to come up with solutions on how to help other people. And this is one of the best Costner scenes I've ever seen in a movie.

[01:32:41] He just loses it and he just goes like, when are you going to stop? Like how much is enough for you in regards to this quest to unify a family?

[01:32:54] And Ryan, I think you might be alluding to this with the director video because I haven't seen it yet. But there's a lot of moments where this movie's quiet and it creeps the fuck out of you because it's so quiet. There's a lot of tension.

[01:33:10] The director is talking about the scene you just talked about where they confront the Wee Boy clan. And he talks about how you build tension by letting it play.

[01:33:20] And there is, I think Kevin Costner is so great in this film because when Diane Lane hugs her grandson and doesn't want to give him back, he does a subtle thing where he scoots and scoots in his chair.

[01:33:38] Like he's not going to back down from these guys, but he also gives her a look saying this isn't the time or place to do this. They hold on those shots of them for so fucking long.

[01:33:51] It felt like a Leonie standoff in a Western that he would have done. I was telling you, Zach, before you saw it, that it's like a film noir slash Western. Yeah, very much a neo-noir Western kind of film.

[01:34:05] There are times when the mood feels like a no country or anything of that nature, but it feels kind of like a traditional Western

[01:34:15] if you also shoved a noir film of that same era into it because there's a lot of seediness and a lot of it takes place in towns. So it's not like they're out on the prairie.

[01:34:26] But there's definitely that mood of seediness and unsettled nature in there that absolutely lends itself to that description. That's why when you texted it to me, I was just like, well, maybe he's overselling this, but this sounds like fun.

[01:34:40] And then I watched him like, no, everything he described in that text is absolutely what happened in this movie. And also Leslie Manville as Blanche the mom.

[01:34:53] If we didn't give her an Oscar for Phantom Thread, which is fine, whatever, I think we owe her one for this because she made pulling pork chops out of an oven creepy. And I don't know how anybody else does that for her.

[01:35:08] And by the time what's great about her characters is that we don't know exactly what her background with her boys has been other than the fact that she's clearly a domineering mother and I like that we don't.

[01:35:21] All we know about her is that she's a fucking villain, like I could just a flat out terrible human being.

[01:35:29] And so when she gets shot by Diane Lane by Diane Lane at the end is like one of the most glorious sites you'll see in the movies this year. In my audience, old people are cheering.

[01:35:40] I applauded. I was the only one in the theater. I was going like Bravo, you know, like that that was just that was such a satisfying moment in a movie where, you know, we've seen like, I don't know if I'm bold and saying this but like I don't know.

[01:35:58] Like in the last 20 years, 10 years is this the best Kevin Costner performance we've gotten with in that time? I haven't watched Yellowstone. So yeah, well, okay, movie not TV. You know, he's I love Kevin Costner so I'll probably I don't know.

[01:36:14] I'll have to think. I mean three days to kill is pretty close. I'm just draft a draft day. I've heard he's pretty good draft draft a deal. What did you think about the movie Brad?

[01:36:29] Yeah, I was really hoping to go into it pretending it was a man of steel prequel. But the end of the movie that doesn't make sense. So but yeah, I was I was really impressed with just how you know it wasn't a straight up like action movie.

[01:36:49] It was you know, the title is has a double meaning. It's not so much rescuing the kid. It's like letting go of their first son's death. Well, their son's death. And like that's what Kevin Costner really struggles with.

[01:37:07] And he the really the rest of the movie is really like him trying to convince her to let that go because she's she's projecting it onto the grandson. Just watching him bear the brunt of all her mistakes.

[01:37:22] It is interesting too because they how each character is different where Costner's character internalizes it, where she is really outgoing with it because there's those great like I actually cried a few times in this film because

[01:37:39] I think it's like a lot of people don't know when she whispers at him, like after that story. You know, shaving.

[01:37:45] He has a flashback of him shaving with his kid and things like that and then you know it flashes back to the present and she's thinking about it too and that's why she loves him and stuff and it's yeah.

[01:37:58] It's and he doesn't want to go on this journey at all like she makes him go and just like the whole time, you know, he makes all these sacrifices for and then, you know, I thought the movie is going to end when they're at the.

[01:38:09] Native American kids ranch is finally convinced her to not do it and I thought the movie is going to like they're going to go home after that and then she wakes up here's like oh shit. He is on a warpath.

[01:38:21] What's great is he convinces her that so he can do it on his own. Yeah, because he knows that if he takes her with her something could happen to her and I love that scene too where he puts the shotgun on Donnie's head.

[01:38:34] And he's like wake her up. Yeah. And she and he does and he's like you want to come with me and she says yes. No time to think about it just go. Yeah. And then what? Nothing. Oh yeah, and the whole hatchet thing.

[01:38:53] You know, for like the movie does a good job of like misdirecting me like I that's one of the scenes where I thought like they're not going to cut his fingers off like he's going to get away and then you know when he's in the house in the finale you know he gets shot once and you think he might get out okay and he gets wasted again.

[01:39:10] And I guess Donnie just died in the fire. Yeah. He's unconscious and he has burned to death like that's pretty. There is that added mystery of because you see him fight Blanche and then yeah like where did she go.

[01:39:28] Yeah, Margaret shows up and there's there's carnage but you really don't know what happened.

[01:39:35] Yeah, that was the only part that was like because you know she does even though she has the drop on Margaret before she shoots her you know there's like enough time for Margaret to take her down.

[01:39:47] It would have been easy to be like oh she's out of bullets and then that makes sense. And then what was the other thing that was like weird.

[01:39:54] Oh yeah, the I was a little disappointed in so you know Margaret makes the you know tells what's the Native American kids name I forget. Yeah. Peace. Yeah. She's like oh you're coming to help me.

[01:40:08] And so he rides with her and then you know after the in the aftermath you know they kind of go this ever ways and I was expecting like you should come back to you know you be a part of our family here and she's just like okay well you should probably get going.

[01:40:20] I was like what. Okay, well that's kind of mean. The. I'm trying to think, I don't know if everybody else noticed this but there's in that in that final brawl.

[01:40:34] I could be wrong but I believe I saw him punching one of them out with the hand that got the fingers chopped off and I'm like that's got a fucking hurt. Oh yeah.

[01:40:45] That was just like it was like, like, all things in it where I'm just like that's adding to the impact here. Like so when Costner sneaks into the house. Like that whole scene is so silent.

[01:40:58] Yeah, as you walk around and the people behind me decided to use that time to have a whisper conversation. The whole audience could hear you and then while I'm listening to that I'm thinking.

[01:41:11] Like that's an old house like how is his like how is he not creaking every one of those boards as he steps around like it finally kind of a little bit happens when he gets to the stairs.

[01:41:21] But that was like another point where I was like really like I'm not buying that he's that silent. I do he's a silent assassin Kevin Costner.

[01:41:30] I buy it only because the director, the director does this a couple times in the movie where he'll he turns sound down to nearly nothing in ways that I've had to witness with doing the series that I did where like if you turn down the sound where you want to you'll

[01:41:49] achieve the effect that you want. It was great. It was so unsettling. Yeah, like that. And then the opening where you have a lot of like there's very little dialogue in that opening beyond that conversation in the kitchen.

[01:42:02] And then a lot of it is moving towards just like looking at people's faces looking at how they're feeling throughout those moments.

[01:42:09] They and that by the time you get to that final scene it all falls within that motif like I like that this film is not like burdened with dialogue so that when dialogue happens like with the Blanche character in that dinner scene

[01:42:22] there is like an added amount of tension because now suddenly everybody's talking and now something's like it's building you know it's building up towards something otherwise they wouldn't be dropping this dialogue here.

[01:42:36] And, and also the way it's shot in that house before the lights go on and the fire starts, it's a beautiful like that's why I like Ryan's description of noir because he's moving in and out of the shadows like beautifully. Yeah, movies awesome. Yeah. Next week is freaky.

[01:43:03] On Friday 13th which looks fun. Hey it's freaky Friday the 13th. Right it's a slasher movie from Blumhouse that's rated R haven't had one of those since Halloween so. It is rated R. Yeah. Holy shit cool.

[01:43:18] Why the white it's only two weeks away like why didn't they just do it on Halloween do you think because of the 13th part. Yeah I'm guessing they're playing up the Friday the 13th part. I mean I'm down I want to see a horror movie. Yeah.

[01:43:32] The funny one yeah. Yeah so yeah thanks for listening we'll see you next week at the movies. Bye. Bye. And a big shout out to James's mom I'm giving you an electronic hug that you can feel through the airwaves. Thanks for listening and have a nice day.