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[00:01:06] Unofficially the official podcast of Denver Pop CultureCon. I am Brad and with me is... Aaron. Zach. Hey, welcome back, Aaron. Hey, thanks for having me again. Yeah, this week we saw El Camino at home and in the theater. That's not the full title.
[00:01:20] It's El Camino, a Breaking Bad Movie. Shut up, nerd. Stay tuned to the other episode where we will review that movie of the week. Play that trailer. Play that... And we'll play the trailer. Did they have a trailer? I didn't realize they had a trailer. They did. Yeah.
[00:01:36] Netflix trailer. Yeah, Netflix trailer. And it had like a teaser with skinny. So. Yeah. Netflix does trailers. Yeah. But before that, we will talk about what we've been watching, movie news, what's going on around town and Blue Ray D releases and catching the classics with Karin. Nice.
[00:01:54] What did she watch this week? Hey nerds, Karin here for part 29 of Catching the Classics where I watch famous and popular movies I've never seen before and send in my review. This week you all overwhelmingly voted for me to watch Gremlins.
[00:02:08] Yeah, I was the only one who voted for Hoosiers. I mean, to be fair, you have to vote in the poll to see the results of the poll while it's still running.
[00:02:18] And I'm a big basketball fan, so I figured I should vote for Hoosiers and yeah, I was like the only one who did. So Gremlins it is. Um, yeah, it was, um, surprisingly fun. It was just like this kind of like weirdly bizarre, like cute movie.
[00:02:42] I don't know how I feel about it, to be honest. Like I had fun with it, but then parts of it I was like, oh my gosh, this is so fucking dark. What the hell?
[00:02:51] It's kind of like when I watched, um, not Dark Crystal, what's the one with David Bowie? Labyrinth. When I watched Labyrinth for the first time, I was over at a friend's house in high school and she's like, oh my gosh, we're going to watch Labyrinth, you guys.
[00:03:05] Like this was one of my favorite movies growing up. And as we're watching it, I'm like, this explains a lot about you to be honest. Like really? This was one of your favorite movies. Okay, whatever. I'd say this is better than Labyrinth though. Um, okay.
[00:03:23] So yeah, going into it, um, I knew kind of the basic Premlins premise of the Gremlins, um, that you can't feed them after midnight and that if you do, they turn into like these little shitty D bags.
[00:03:38] Um, and that they terrorize whoever is, you know, possessing them, whoever is in possession of them. I didn't realize it was like the entire town. I thought it was just going to be like more of the family, but yeah.
[00:03:55] So, and obviously I've seen like the character designs for the Gremlins and Gizmo and Gizmo is so cute. Like I was kind of surprised he didn't end up being a shitty Gremlin himself. Like I guess I don't understand why it was Gizmo like so good compared to
[00:04:21] the other Gremlins like his progeny basically, um, basic, you know, they all straight up wanted to become Gremlins. So they, you know, trick Billy into feeding them after midnight and they turn into Gremlins, but Gizmo specifically didn't want to be fed.
[00:04:39] So it's like why is it that he's cool with being a Magwai, but the other ones are like, yes, we want to turn into Gremlins. Also Billy was like totally unfazed by the fact that one, this is an animal or
[00:04:53] creature that he's never seen before, never heard of before. I mean, you never knew like a Magwai existed and all of a sudden you get one as a pet. And not only that, but it talks like it clearly says words and nobody really
[00:05:10] cares other than at the very end when the Asian guy comes back to take Gizmo away, which honestly I was like, oh no, let him stay with Billy. But yeah, that was like a really weird like shoehorned moral of the story was
[00:05:28] like you can't take care of them. Therefore you can't have it. And it's like, well, I mean, I'd not disagreeing with you, but it's just weird how you're, I don't know, the whole thing was like bizarre.
[00:05:40] He's, you know, he's saying like, you can't take care of this Magwai just like this race of humans can't take care of the planet or something. It's like, okay, whatever, weirdo. Also thankfully snow doesn't count as water even though it is water.
[00:05:59] But oh boy, that would have gotten really bad really fast. Yeah, but yeah, it was fun. The puppetry or whatever they used to make the Magwai and the gremlins move is really good. It's really convincing.
[00:06:18] I wonder though if the whole they can't be in direct light thing is kind of a way to mask that a little bit. Like, you know, maybe it doesn't look very good. It doesn't look very convincing if it's in direct light.
[00:06:34] So that's why everything has to be kind of dim when you see them. But that's just the theory. I don't know for sure. But no, it was good. Um, yeah, those gremlins are like, holy shit. They killed one lady. They probably killed that couple with the truck.
[00:06:52] They attacked the one dude who's playing Santa. This is like a really weirdly dark movie and most of it is played for laughs. This is really messed up you guys. Although that was the theater scene was pretty funny when they're watching Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.
[00:07:12] So overall, yeah, I had fun with it. I would watch it again. Maybe not for a while, but I would watch it again. Yeah, so I'd give it three and a half stars. There wasn't anything about it that I hated, but it was just kind of like,
[00:07:32] yeah, it's a pretty good. Didn't love it, but it didn't hate it. So yeah, three and a half stars or round it down to three, I guess, if we're doing the full star system, because I don't feel like it's out of four,
[00:07:45] but I don't feel like it's out of three either. But if we have to do the three or the full star system, I would give it three stars. So there you go. And for our next movie, I'm going to be reviewing
[00:08:00] either Cat on a Hot Tim Neroof or Hoosiers, depending on which one I get through first before they both fall off of Netflix. So I will talk to you all soon and I hope you had fun at your movie this week. Bye.
[00:08:16] Is she allowed to put Hoosiers twice in a row? I guess it's it's her game so she can do whatever she wants with it. Yeah, she's got to catch them all, catch all those classics. So damn it, Brad.
[00:08:31] You know, the correct answer is that Gremlins is a Joe Dante masterpiece because Joe Dante makes masterpieces is what he does. The rating might be correct, though, because Gremlins 2 is the better one because it's the one that goes full blown bananas.
[00:08:44] It just it just and it hears to no rules whatsoever and it's amazing. But I like Gremlins. It's an awesome flick. Yeah, it's cute. Yeah, it's a great one. Yeah. I rewatched it not too long ago and I was like, yeah. I forgot how great this movie is.
[00:08:58] I love I love when it's playing that big cross. Miss on do you hear what I hear? Great sequence. But yeah, cool. Thank you, Karen. Yeah, thanks, Karen. Yeah, so Aaron, what you've got to. So yeah, this is the stuff we've been watching. Oh gosh, movie wise.
[00:09:21] Let's see. I watched In the Tall Grass, the Stephen King, Joe Hill Netflix flick. Very nice. Pretty good, kind of. Relatively scary. I was I was funny because I put it on thinking it was like a bad indie Netflix
[00:09:35] movie not realizing there was actually some weight behind the story. So then I was surprisingly entertained by it. And then at the end, it's the guy who did cube. Oh, really? And splice. Well, that's interesting.
[00:09:48] Yeah, but it falls within his line of just setting it in one place. So right. I saw Ad Astra on Friday. And what did you think? Or Thursday, Thursday night. I really liked it. I liked it a lot.
[00:10:02] Like strangely, I didn't know what to expect and it was not what I expected. And then I was pleasantly surprised by it. Very nice. So weirdly, did not like gravity. And I know this was, you know, to me kind of like felt like gravity
[00:10:20] meets inception or not inception. Sorry, interstellar. OK. The other I won that Chris Bernal did. And my issue with gravity was it just felt like silly a lot of the time and just like not like a serious movie.
[00:10:33] And then it was up for all these Oscars and I was like, why? I don't get it. I guess it's more for the experience or anything like that. Yeah, I think that was it with that movie. And so Ad Astra was really interesting because it had the absurdity
[00:10:44] that gravity had, but I didn't care because that wasn't the story. The story was the human story of him dealing with his father and all of that. So that to me was like I didn't care about that stuff so much because that wasn't what was important.
[00:10:59] Whereas, you know, gravity, that's the whole story. She's just trying to survive and get back to Earth. Very nice. So yeah, that was a good one. What else did I watch? I don't know. I'm sure there's something else in there, but those are the two ones
[00:11:12] I can remember right on. Well, if you think of anything, we can come back to it in a little bit watching segment. So did I jump the gun on that? No, no, it's all good. Yeah, I think it was. No, this is what we've been watching segment now.
[00:11:22] So Zach, what have you been watching? Oh, well, I was gone last week because I was busy working on some stuff. But don't worry. I didn't get around to watching much. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. We could be on the already. So I saw Joker.
[00:11:49] I've had 10 days to think about it. So I've had to take your time. Take your time. And I kind of don't have a full answer in my head as to what to make of the film.
[00:12:07] If I'm going to just give you a straight up rating, it's a four star rating. However, it's because of a lot of different factors and not all the ones that I think Todd Phillips wants me to apply to that. I think it's a really good horror movie.
[00:12:22] I think it covers a lot of ground that Henry Portrait of a serial killer does to decent effect while intertwining a Joker origin story. I think it handles the Batman mythos in an interesting way. What I what I appreciated about the Batman element of it all is that
[00:12:39] it's not particularly beholden to the strict mythos and that they are allowed to kind of do whatever they want with it and play along with Jokers, you know, unreliability in terms of being a narrator. And I mean, as far as the content of the film, I mean, like
[00:13:03] I appreciate that people are having discussions about it. My my overall thought is as of now that it doesn't have the depth that I think it wants to have or thinks it has. But good try. I mean, like, I mean, it's certainly much more
[00:13:23] interesting to discuss and dissect than most blockbusters that come out. Period, let alone a comic book movie. Like I love Avengers movies, but like Joker is attempting to do something, whether it pulls it off or not. I don't know.
[00:13:39] I don't I mean, I'm still kind of mulling over some like issues I had with the script and the dialogue. But one thing is undoubtedly certain. Joaquin Phoenix is amazing in the film, like it's an undoubted transformation. And his his portrayal is terrifying and cringy.
[00:13:57] And he plays a villain like the Joker very well. But yeah, I mean, I need to watch it again because one viewing and 10 days after that viewing is not enough to like fully judge it. I would feel I think I would need to see it again.
[00:14:14] But it's also a very grim and dark movie. And after I saw it, I was like, I won't watch some some happy stuff. You know, just kind of cleanse myself a little bit of it. So within that, I watched some horror movies that, you know,
[00:14:30] have a little bit more of a if not optimism, then at least some fun intertwined into them. I rewatch Gerald's game, which is not necessarily a doesn't have really a happy tone, although it does have a satisfying conclusion.
[00:14:44] But I hadn't seen it since it came out and that movie's amazing. Carla Gino was robbed of an Oscar. And I love Bruce Greenwood in it. Like it's I think it's pretty amazing how they were able to take
[00:14:54] a book like Gerald Gaiman hearing about what the concept is and then just making it into a film that works. Mike Flanagan's pretty frigging solid with that. So. But yeah, I hadn't watched it since it came out and rewatching.
[00:15:08] And I was like, man, this this is a film that Netflix could have easily pushed in the awards circuit. And I rewatched The Raven with Bella Lagosian Boris Karloff and watched it in the long, long time. But Screen Factory has the 4K restorations of it on their first
[00:15:24] volume of their Universal Horrors Vault series. This one in particular, it's not as great as the Black Cat, but it's good for other reasons. The basic story is that Bella Lagosian plays a world famous surgeon who's also very addicted to Edgar Allen Poe stories.
[00:15:43] And he goes so far to actually create Poe torture devices and leave him in a dungeon in his basement. He falls in love with a girl that he's helping that he performed surgery on. Her father doesn't want Bella Lagosian to be in love with the daughter
[00:16:00] because she's engaged to a nicer young fellow. And so Bella Lagosian gets angry and he's trying to plan revenge. Boris Karloff's character enters as a gangster who's trying to hide his appearance and change his appearance because he doesn't want to be found out by the cops
[00:16:15] because he just escaped from prison. And so Boris Karloff intentionally disfigures him to dangle a carrot over his head of like, I'll fix your face and make you look handsome if you help me kill the father of this gal I'm in love with.
[00:16:27] And then the climax kind of hits with all these Poe devices, like walls closing in on each other. Somebody is strapped to a to a table where the pendulum is going to swing and slice them in five minutes. So it's like a slow torture for them.
[00:16:43] And it's fun. The 4K transfer. It's the first time that you ever really truly notice the lines in the makeup appliance for Boris Karloff in it. But you could always tell that it was clearly makeup because the eye is clearly painted on.
[00:16:59] But this is the first time I was able to see the lines, but it didn't ruin the the enjoyment of the film for me by any means. And and it's Boris Karloff and Bill the ghosty doing shit. I mean, who doesn't fucking love that at all?
[00:17:13] I rewatched Friday the 13th part seven, The New Blood, John Karl Beakler's masterpiece. The yeah, it's not my favorite in the Friday series whatsoever. However, I appreciate what Beakler was clearly going for. I think a lot of my appreciation for the film has to do with the behind
[00:17:31] the scenes of it and knowing what he was going for in terms of upping the anti of the violence and whatnot and how the MPAA kind of fucked him over on it. But also, this is the introduction of Kane Hodder to the series.
[00:17:43] So I can't truly complain about, you know, how we view the film because we get the start of this great performance. I mean, in terms of the story, having Jason fight a psychic is kind of weak and dumb.
[00:17:58] But, you know, hey, I mean, it gives you a chance to see the guy who played the dead body and weakened at Bernie's do some actual acting. So, you know, he's not just sitting there as a corpse. And then I rewatched Jackie Brown, best movie of all time.
[00:18:13] I don't know if you guys have ever heard this out of my mouth before. But rewatching it, I had not watched it on four K. My 4K TV before and it looks awesome on the Blu-ray that Lionsgate put out.
[00:18:25] Like it's it's it retains the quality of the film that they shot that Guillermo Navarro and Tarantino shot it on. But it just everything just looks like it's presentable. Like they must have touched that one up, which I was curious
[00:18:39] about with the Tarantino ones that Lionsgate owns, because I didn't know if they'd actually remastered them at all or if they just took the transfers from the original DVD releases and put them over. But thankfully, everything's intact. And it's still the greatest movie ever put on this earth.
[00:18:54] So and then the last thing that I watched was some Riftrex stuff that I own. I was watching the sketch fest movies that they did. And there's a fun one with John Hodgman. And there's a there's one of the best ones is they do
[00:19:14] a short about setting up a room for a kindergarten class. And then they break and say, we'll be back with part two. And then they finish it at the end by getting everybody that they've
[00:19:24] had as a guest on stage to do a giant riffathon on the second half of setting up a room. And they do a previously on setting up a room and then they turn it into a conspiracy web where it's like showing all these characters
[00:19:36] trying to put stuff in the room or place shelves in a certain place so that the classroom looks nice. And at one point, the yarn points to a picture of Barack Obama and it says, POTUS setup. And then it moves over to another one like conspiracy question marks
[00:19:51] that like they just they had some fun with the whole like the setting up a room nonsense. So but yeah, that's all I watched this week. Nice. Brad, what did you watch this week? A couple things. I got weird with that. The Deadwood movie came out on Blu-ray.
[00:20:11] So I watched that moves me and McShane in your life. You can't go wrong there. Yeah, it's it's it's fine. It's it leans heavily on, hey, we're all back and together, except for Powers Booth. So was it a good wrap up?
[00:20:28] Yeah, as far as like because obviously it didn't get it got canceled before it had a chance to wrap up the story lines. Right. So it's a good wrap up episode. But that the plot is really thin. You know, it's like 20 percent a storyline and then 80 percent.
[00:20:49] Hey, here's all these characters and what they're doing now. So it was very much like, well, we've got a chance to finish this up technically. So let's do it. Yeah. OK. And on the special features there's a making of documentary that talks about.
[00:21:03] The guy wrote it with his name. I don't remember. I have not watched it in a while. It's like Mitch something. Anyway, Mitchell Joe Dunbaker. Anyway, yeah, the writers, it's he's as far as a writer. He's exploring themes of just like the passage of time.
[00:21:22] And this movie is set 10 years in the future of Deadwood when you know, telephone poles are being installed in a dead was part of South Dakota or South Dakota is part of the United States now. Oh, OK. So yeah. So no more lawlessness. Uh, less, less, less. Lawlessness.
[00:21:44] Once upon a time in the West, love this. So. George Hurst comes back and he's he's a senator now. Ah, a major villain is in charge of South Dakota. And he wants to buy up everyone's land in Deadwood so that he can create a path
[00:22:07] to put the telephone poles in that he has a stake in. And some people don't want to give up their land. So it's pretty obvious who I mean, they try to make it look like who done it.
[00:22:17] But at the end of the day, it's pretty obvious that he is the guy who's causing the trouble. I know this is sincere for Deadwood, but at the same time, when you were telling me like he wants to buy up the land,
[00:22:26] so he could put the railroad through there. I'm just like, well, we've got to find a new sheriff of rock rage. Oh, Cleveland little come on. So, yeah, but it's a good walk down memory lane. Nice, right?
[00:22:41] Because they sprinkle in some flashbacks and as far as Ian McShane goes, he's ill, so you spend most of the movie just watching him be sick. So I'm sure he looks bad as well. He's sick too, right? I mean, yeah, he's still an awesome character. Nicer, I guess.
[00:23:00] Then he was in the past. OK. But he doesn't get a lot of chances to be, I guess, as charismatic because he's kind of sidelined. Yeah, but you're making me want to watch. We watched Deadwood now. Confessional moment. I've never seen Deadwood. Oh, man.
[00:23:17] I need to get on it. Don't worry, none of what we've been talking about makes sense to you. I'm not too worried about it. I'm sure I'll, you know, at this point, if it's ruined, it's ruined. I'm the one who missed the vote.
[00:23:25] But you know, I appreciate that they gave Deadwood a chance to end that way. I wish they could do that for Carnival. They're not going to do that because a lot of cast members from Carnival have been dropping dead.
[00:23:38] So and we can't find Nick Stahl anywhere to my knowledge. So but Clancy Brown's still around. We could just give him a movie of his own. But yeah, no, cool, right on. Glad. Yeah. There's more there's more gunfights in it than the show, I think, too. Nice.
[00:23:55] I have a Western show. Western shows are fun. I miss Justified. So I'm looking real quick. While you're looking, I'll mention Milch. That's the writer. Sorry. No, that's fine. I was just going to say, I realized the other thing I'd watched since I'm on here
[00:24:13] so infrequently, there's a lot of movies in between. So I only ever think of like, oh, what did I just watch within the last few days? Yeah. We also saw it chapter two, finally. Oh, what do you think? You know, it's not as good as chapter one, obviously.
[00:24:28] Yeah. But first on that one. But yeah. Oh, really? Well, I mean, I like chapter two a lot, but like there is an element for it missing for me that the first one had. Yeah.
[00:24:41] And I think like the the issue I had with the second one is it felt longer than it needed to be like for how for being almost three hours. I just kind of struck me like this is all you did was collected a few things
[00:24:54] and then went in the hole like, why did this take so long? But that aside, and admittedly, the chapter two is, I think, a lot scarier than the first one in a few places.
[00:25:04] Obviously, the climax kind of gets a little crazy and not as scary as some of the other elements in it. Right. But I didn't not like it. I just felt like this the first one was better for me.
[00:25:16] You know, I mean, when I when I got out of it, I was feeling a little like not underwhelmed, but I was just like, OK, it's done. The mission was accomplished. We did it. Like if there was nothing like too profound for me, like other than
[00:25:30] some small key scenes of imagery like, you know, the Stanley head with spider legs is still unnerving to me. Oh, yeah. That's I was like, you got to do Lovecraftian bullshit in a Warner Brothers big studio budget movie. Neat. I like that. But right on.
[00:25:49] Yeah, I actually have two that I forgot real quick. I saw the Between the Two Ferns movie. Oh, I watched that too. Oh, let's talk about it. This movie. I'll leave this. This movie is way better than it had any right to be.
[00:26:05] If anybody doesn't know what between actually you and you and Ryan talked about it like two weeks ago, but it's basically a Wayne's World Esk version of the Between the Two Ferns phenomenon on the internet. I love everything about how they were able to adapt that concept
[00:26:22] and just turn it into a dark comedy. And I didn't realize Scott Ockerman was directing and co-writing it. And it makes a lot of sense why the movie structured the way it is. When I see the name, Scott Ockerman attached to it.
[00:26:34] Yeah, I really I think the best like it really shined in the celebrity interview portions that mirror what the original show is about. The rest of it was kind of like pretty by the books, road comedy type thing.
[00:26:47] But I did enjoy all the celebrity cameos and how great the interviews and stuff were with everyone. And when Ryan was in it was reviewing it two weeks ago, I was trying to kind of decipher what he was talking about with some stuff.
[00:26:58] But I understand now, Will Ferrell, that's one of my favorite Will Ferrell performances is in this movie playing the head of Funny or Die as like as if though it's a major corporation that actually matters.
[00:27:10] And the one of my favorite gags that has nothing to do with the celebrity interviews, it's where he gets all the shows and Will Ferrell is telling him to put the bag down and to kick it to him. And he's going like, that's the best you can kick.
[00:27:23] Kick harder. Oh, and Peter Dinklage chasing them outside of the after they've stolen his Faberge eggs. Yes. He was like, I still got like how many mother millions? You'll be fine, Peter. You'll be fine. It's a little personal pep talk after. Yeah.
[00:27:42] And the Benedict Cumberbatch one was fun. But yeah, it's a fun movie. It's really fun. And the gag reel at the end was pretty fun too. But I just thought it was interesting how they were able to pull off
[00:27:53] from my mind the same amount of pleasure that Wayne's World does, that first Wayne's World does where you build on the world logically and you don't really try to overextend yourself. Like this movie knows exactly what it is and it doesn't try to go anywhere beyond it.
[00:28:06] Yes, exactly. And I like a lot of the jokes about the documentary crew that like where they're recording at the most ridiculous moments where no normal person would still be recording it. They kind of like pointed out and set it up early when he's
[00:28:20] like don't ever stop recording even if I tell you to not record, keep recording. Oh, that reveal at the end, by the way, of what it's what the film is actually for as a student film. Get out. So good. But yeah.
[00:28:33] And then the last thing that I watched, which I guess would lead into Brad was went to the Psycho serial party at the Alamo Draft House and yeah, it's Psycho. It's pretty frigging amazing. So Brad. Now that we've hijacked your what you've been watching. Yeah. Psycho.
[00:28:49] Yeah, it's of its time. That's it. It's all you have to say. Yeah. These are this is the second of two movies that are on my top 10 of all time that you have been ambivalent about. Zach literally spoke for three hours with someone about it on
[00:29:05] the Shamley silhouette. I know. Listen to the Shamley silhouette where Marshall was honest and I talked about Psycho for three hours. I did. So maybe that's why I didn't retain any of that information. Right on. Well, yeah, no, of course it is of its time like, you
[00:29:19] know, there's just long stretches of just like, wow, we're really going to like spend time watching him do this. Like if it was a movie today, it'd be like too much detail. OK. Too artsy, if that's the case. No, not too artsy.
[00:29:33] Just you know, like we haven't fully learned how to edit yet. Or like here's an idea that we need to it needs to reach a runtime. Yeah. Pad this out. I have feelings about that with the movie we're reviewing today. Oh. Hmm. I mean, oh, sorry. Go ahead.
[00:29:52] He talked about three hours about it. Stop it. But I was impressed. It felt like it was shot almost like a modern movie. Like if it had been color, like there's a lot of close ups and a lot of depth of field.
[00:30:05] A lot of movies from that time are usually just a lot of wide shots. Yeah. So I appreciated that. And then also like through pop culture, I already knew what the reveal was. Yeah. So there wasn't it wasn't that shocking. No.
[00:30:20] And I think it would have been more effective if they actually like synced his mouth to. Oh, in the in the final, I guess every I guess there was a case to me made that whenever you're hearing her voice, his mom's
[00:30:31] voice on screen is just in his head. Yeah. Because as it should be, I mean, we never see him moving his lips when he talks to mother because well, one, it would technically give it away. But two, you know, it does kind of work best when it's
[00:30:45] stuck inside him. And it kind of plays around with your perception of everything. Like I yeah, I mean the editing for me on that film is incredible mainly because like it is it is moving at a more modern pace than a film of that era.
[00:31:02] Like you watched North by Northwest not too long ago. That's like a year before. And so he's kind of changing it up already like a year later. And I mean the shower sequences, that's like an essence of montage that ends up becoming like something you see
[00:31:19] in almost every horror movie ever made going forward. But yeah, I mean, I understand why pop culture would definitely ruin that twist for you. I was curious more of like, were you confused in the first 40 minutes that it was not about Norman Bates?
[00:31:37] Because that's what that gag is. Where it's more about marrying than the money. No, I was just like this is a lot of setup for what I know was coming. Oh, OK. So it's just like I said, it seems like I you know, he
[00:31:52] had this idea of you know, this guy who runs a motel that kills people and his like that whole story wasn't in him being like split personalities with his mom. That wasn't enough to write a whole movie. So he just padded the whole Marion part leading up to
[00:32:07] it. That's what it felt like to me. I was just stretch this out because for the longest time I was like, why is she just staring at that money over and over again? Because there was no there's no setup to that she would be
[00:32:20] that kind of person that would steal that. There's coding in the film and that scene where she's packing up is mainly set up to suggest only through silent film imagery that she's about to make the decision to take that money and run.
[00:32:35] This is because it took so long. But like the scene before that is the real estate agency. The Tom Cassidy scene. So I'm just totally like, yeah, she's going to take it to the bank and on the way the bank she'll probably.
[00:32:47] Oh, so you're saying you would have there's no indication prior to that moment in the room? Yeah, she seems like a straight arrow person. I think that's intentional to make us believe that she would do that. And then when we're seeing this is going to sound
[00:33:00] outdated but the black bra instead of her white bra that she was wearing in the first one is that's to indicate to an audience, oh, that she certainly became like devious, which is color coding of an older era. I say why is black represent evil?
[00:33:15] I still wear my black bras when I'm about to do these things. Again, this is it's it's it's such an antiquated way of color, not just color coding wardrobe, but also indicating how somebody changes. But also it's the 60s and showing somebody in a bra
[00:33:35] in a major motion picture is still a sight to behold at this point. So they're going to play a page showing a toilet like a thing to that is the first time in major motion picture history that a toilet was ever shown and able to flush.
[00:33:47] Yeah, so so there's that for you. Thanks, I go. Thank you. How many great movies with toilet moments? Every Larry the Cable Guy movie ever made ozadette to psycho. I'm sure because I'm sure there's toilets all over those fucking weird pieces of shit.
[00:34:04] Dumb and Dumber's got a famous toilet. I know. So yeah, it's like oh, it's fine. Yeah, I respect its place in cinematic history, but I'll show you the birds. And then after that, I'm not showing you anymore. And then the last thing I saw was the drive-in to
[00:34:21] special presentation of an indie film called 47 Hours about these two girls who are victims of. An evil phone was at the trailer. Was the trailer in there? OK. Two girls who, I guess, were sexually assaulted. And they.
[00:34:46] It was I missed part of it because I was in the concession stand. So the setup is I'm a little afeon. Anyway, they met somehow and they're kind of loners and they don't know that about each other yet. But somewhere in their meeting, they learn about this
[00:35:00] cell phone game, about 47 hours where you recite something in the phone and it starts a curse. And then you have to get someone else to recite it. So it ends the curse and transfers to them. Kind of like it follows. Like transferring it from one another, not directly.
[00:35:17] But you know, I suppose I was really if you on how the game actually worked. And at first they don't believe it. And like the game is going off the rules. So things that aren't supposed to happen are happening.
[00:35:31] And then, yeah, you just kind of learn about each of these two girls' backstories. And then they realize that the game is real and then they try to go around, figure out how to cancel it. And the one girl works at a drive-in.
[00:35:49] So that's why the drive-in theater was showing it. The low incentive there. But yeah, it's just kind of stuff you've seen before that's boring, kind of boring. And now I was confused about how the game worked. There was a weird editing because it would jump around a lot.
[00:36:10] Like it would go from one location to another and like there was a patch at this time but you weren't sure why they got there. And then there was an impressive finale where they have a tornado come through and destroy the drive-in. So the screen gets ripped apart.
[00:36:27] But it's also masked by the fact that they're just in this car hiding and then all the CGI whirlwind is happening around them and they cut to black. And then the funniest part is when the tornadoes passed and they just like fly over of the aftermath and
[00:36:43] they're like both girls have been ejected from the car and one's fine but the other one's like paralyzed on the ground and then her friends, I'll get help, I'll get help and then something happens as you get distracted.
[00:36:54] Then all of a sudden she hears this huge thud and looks back and a piece of the drive-in screen has like fallen on her friend and cut her in half. Like cartoonishly just like this one piece of metal just right after.
[00:37:09] Not the scare you were looking for but. Oh and the movie's not scary for sure. Yeah I try it has like some of these demonic sequences where the game is screwing with each of them. They can't cancel the game because it's run by Comcast right? Actually so
[00:37:32] also while the drive-in my battery died. Like couldn't even run the radio. Usually just won't start up but so I couldn't hear the finale so I'm just watching that sequence and everything. And then there's a post like a post that scene
[00:37:49] where we are introduced to I think two entirely new characters like two younger girls that I think made up the game created it. And yeah just oh so these like two tween girls started like I don't know it was so confusing.
[00:38:08] So good on them though for showing an independent horror film on their big screen. Yeah I can catch where is made or anything but yeah in showcasing drive-ins so. Was it a feature or was it? Yeah full feature. An hour and a half. Yeah that's about it.
[00:38:27] And that's sweet. That's all I watched this week. Nice cool you guys got anything else you forgot. No but you were mentioning the drive-in earlier. You know that's around town. So I'm wondering should we see what else is going on around town this week.
[00:38:42] Let's start that exciting bike. I love that it's an exciting bike. Like he had to tell me what it was. Yeah and now I'm just like this is awesome. Love it's like that's how like the age gap difference between us I'm like what the fuck
[00:39:03] is exciting bike and I had to look it up and like oh it's a video game gotcha. Man so old. Yeah this week around town the Esquire midnight is the room. Oh hi Brad you already saw me but you can see me again.
[00:39:21] Seems so close for them to be doing it after they showed it two weeks ago right. Oh that's just Friday sorry October 18th so they've also got for 18th and 19th it's the nightmare before Elm Street. Nightmare on Elm Street. Is this Kruga town. Yeah 35th anniversary apparently.
[00:39:45] A nightmare on Elm Street. What have I done. And then the drive in which is prompted this segment is 47 hours again. I just talked about Joker and Rambo Last Blood which I probably won't stay for. Aggressive lineup. Yeah and I think next week
[00:40:07] Zombieland comes out so they might be having a double feature that. So the following weekend I guess it would be Halloween weekend. I would love to see Joker on a drive in screen to be honest. Alamo's got 35 millimeter prints of it.
[00:40:23] It was there last week of the drive in but again battery died. I wasn't going to stay not listening not being able to listen to it so. Right yeah. Yeah I chose to go to an auto parts store immediately and remedy that. And you choose wrong.
[00:40:37] Yeah they apparently they won't change your battery at 9 p.m. I wasn't reasonable. I wasn't reasonable. Yeah so that's what's going on around town. Very nice. Oh yeah EFP this week on Thursday emerging filmmakers projects offer X is playing. So I won't see any of you there
[00:40:59] because you never come. Wow it's harsh. Mostly talking to Ryan here. Yeah. Oh he's not here and James and Harry. Do you think they're all sitting here like Henry's turned his back to us. Can't you see them. No no they Henry Henry Ryan Henry Ryan and James
[00:41:20] died in a car crash 15 years ago. Yeah that's what that's what's going on around town so that brings us to movie news movie news. It's real news. We got a lot it's mainly trailer news. We got a trailer for Jungle Cruise with Dwayne de Rock Johnson and
[00:41:45] Emily Blunt and am I the only one who wants a African Queen remake with those two. Just like straight up African Queen remake like it probably won't be as good as the first African Queen but it'll be a lot of fun. Yeah the trailer looks fun for
[00:42:02] Jungle Cruise. As to how fun it'll be. I guess we'll have to wait till next year. But. I guess we can turn every ride at the park into something. I mean yeah if they could turn that teacup right into a movie like I'll totally I'll totally
[00:42:18] go like I'm waiting for a Mr. Toad's Wild Ride movie where it's just the the descent to hell because that's what that ride is. So. Speaking of Joker Joker had once had Martin Scorsese attached as a producer and then he kind of quietly left the project
[00:42:37] to go and do the Irish. He was doing his own thing. Yeah exactly but it seemed that even though a comic book movie that came out last week that was heavily inspired by Scorsese which as to whether or not it understands Scorsese materials a whole other discussion.
[00:42:54] However Scorsese had some words to say about the comic book movie world and in an interview with Empire he basically kind of shoved Marvel movies off to the side and comic book movies in general and called them theme park rides and not cinema sparked a huge
[00:43:13] debate because even though we haven't heard the full interview and don't know the full context we're still just going to make it a news item amongst the responses was Kevin Smith saying Martin Scorsese made the greatest superhero movie of all time which was the last temptation of Christ
[00:43:29] which is not is not a bad argument. It's actually a very interesting argument. But I guess as of late Scorsese doubled down on his criticism and was challenging movie theaters to show more more stories that don't have anything to do with IP or comic book characters and stuff.
[00:43:51] Here's don't get to decide now. And again I I'm you know this is like movie there's play whatever selling tickets so I maintain that like as much as I love Marvel movies and comic book movies I I understand where Scorsese is coming from
[00:44:06] like I'm not blind to what he's what his point is. But I understand how taken out of context it sounds like he's just being dismissive. Right. Yeah. Especially that it's not cinema comment just makes it sound like if it's not a serious drama that it doesn't count.
[00:44:22] Right. And you know and I can see where a lot of people would be put out by that because you know you see that in a lot of different forms where someone says this isn't what I do so it doesn't it's not the same.
[00:44:31] But I do understand to your point and to the point he was probably getting at that we need to like maybe pump the brakes a little bit on the comic book movies and start doing other things again. Which I mean ultimately at the
[00:44:42] end of the day if that genre is making money there's no way that those breaks are going to be pumped. Oh no. However like I understand where Scorsese is coming from and I think it's because deep down even though he just made a movie for Netflix you know
[00:44:54] he would love to have the Irishman playing in major theaters all across the country and realistically from what I've been hearing that movie probably should play as many theaters as possible because it is an epic that could sell well for them and have long legs.
[00:45:07] But Netflix can't make a deal with anybody so they are probably going to show it some landmark theaters around here and that's it and maybe an Alamo will get it. Runtime's an issue too on that one. That's three and a half hours. And I've heard the last 30
[00:45:21] minutes are very reflective and I cannot wait. And you know but like I said and again Scorsese has a very defined idea of cinema based off of what he's been taught and what he learned growing up through the 60s, 70s and 80s. So he's going to have
[00:45:34] that opinion and you know even if it sounds dismissive guess what I mean this man has done a lot for this art form in such a way that like I will give him a pass on saying something like that even if I don't agree with him fully.
[00:45:46] There was another comment from Scorsese though he did say James please like my movies. No comment yet from James Hart and we got another trailer speaking of people involved in comic book movies Robert Danny Jr. was once part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
[00:46:03] He may be in the Black Widow movie we don't know but as of now he has been retired from the MCU after his stunning defeat of Thanos and Endgame. But he will be returning to the big screen as the trailer for Doolittle was dropped.
[00:46:19] This is a movie he's been working on for two years. Trailer looks fine. I don't really get much of anything beyond the visual element of it and it kind of looks like a lot of kids movies I've seen. So I mean if you haven't
[00:46:35] watched the trailer for Doolittle check it out. Like I'm hoping there's a trailer that kind of goes in the story better. What I appreciate though is that it's going back to the original Doolittle story where it kind of takes place in an era gone
[00:46:46] by and it's not a modern movie about a doctor like like the Eddie Murphy one. So yeah. But anyway we got a trailer for that. Got a little bit of news at Russell Crowe and Kevin Williamson are going to team up for a supernatural thriller
[00:47:02] about an about a horror actor who's having some real life horrors in his life. So I just like the idea of Russell Crowe working with Kevin Williamson dialogue. I want to see how that plays out. I think that'll be a lot of fun. And then the last
[00:47:17] piece of news that I have is we lost a legend this week. Actor Robert Forster has died at the age of 78. Robert Forster was a star of films like Medium Cool and Reflection in a Golden Eye and he worked a lot through the 60s,
[00:47:31] 70s and 80s in like B movie genres and stuff like that. Like a maniac cop three is among his finest hours in my opinion in terms of just watching him and having fun with him. Avalanche. The Avalanche. That's in the money. Yeah.
[00:47:43] Like it's a it's weird to kind of throw a rock and you've seen him in something like nobody nobody can say I truly think nobody can say that they haven't seen at least one Robert Forster performance in some form whether it's movie or TV.
[00:47:56] And you know he's been in films recently like you know the descendants. He was on Last Man Standing Apparently which is a show I don't watch but my parents have seen him on it and he was in our movie this week Al Camino.
[00:48:08] But we all forget he was in the greatest movie of all time which was Jackie Brown playing Bale Bondsman Max Cherry which is a delightful character that you know when I talk about why I love Jackie Brown a lot. I think a lot of it has to do
[00:48:22] with Max Cherry because it's one of the few Quentin Tarantino characters actually probably is the only Quentin Tarantino character that's ever been written that I can actually relate to in some form or fashion just in terms of his loneliness and stuff but like it's
[00:48:36] you know his performance in that movie I re rewatching it last last night. It's it's incredible how subdued but charming it is and it's it's that man was a treasure and he will be missed and from all accounts he was like the sweetest
[00:48:51] person in the world and no matter how many times he like faltered within his career in terms of just not getting like enough gigs or even like high profile gigs he always kept going and kept pushing and kept moving forward and literally working up to the
[00:49:06] day he died like he has three movies that still have yet to come out so 78 big bucket of wind so long Max Cherry will be missed and that's news. Oh wow. Thought there'd be more. I don't know unless you guys have anything I didn't really
[00:49:23] find anything else like no. No I think it's old news now the only thing I could think of was that the casting for what is it death on the Nile the murder on the Orient. Oh yeah we got a huge ass cast list for that.
[00:49:35] Yeah Russell Brands gonna be in it so I missed that one. Yeah he's in it and then I I can't remember who else is on that cast all I know is that Kenneth Brown is mustache is coming back and that excites me. It's pretty glorious.
[00:49:49] Did you like that the first murder on the Orient Express? Not particularly. There were things I liked about cinematography was great. I've never seen the original so I don't know if that story was this the same as the original but I thought it was absurd
[00:50:03] that everyone on the train was involved in the in the thing it just to me I was like this is it's not working for me. Watch watch it and see how it is the same but just go ahead and watch the the original.
[00:50:18] Yeah see how they portray it because it's interesting. But I I I didn't I wasn't like in love with the remake when it first came out but I did a fitness cinema on it and for some reason I was very comfortable and like had a fun
[00:50:30] time watching it over again. So like it's a good afternoon movie like especially if it's snowing. Because it's very toasty and for some reason it emanates toastiness. That's that's the best way I can describe it. But anyway yeah Brad do you like Blu-rays? I do.
[00:50:46] Do you like 4Ks? The most. Do you like talking about them? Meh. DVD releases and Blu-rays. Let me ask you do you like Al Pacino in Scarface? That movie's OK. OK well if you like that De Palma movie you can pick
[00:51:05] it up in 4K for the first time. The Gold Edition. Yes. Sure another variation that people can put on their dorm rooms right now. I totally get it. You can also get a 4K version of American gangster from 2007 which I think is a better movie if we're talking
[00:51:22] gangster movies released this week. Scarface is fun but I think it's been blown out of proportion. You can also get the new or know the original Hellboy in 4K. Guillermo del Toro's classic film and then from on 4K from Lionsgate you can get three from Hell
[00:51:41] the new Rob Zombie movie and the final performance from Sid Hague. So if you want to check out Captain Spaulding's final bow he's only in it for a scene from what I've heard but check it out anyway and have fun with Richard Brake in his place
[00:51:55] which is not a bad replacement. Criterion is putting out Haxson which is a horror film I have never seen it before and I cannot wait to pick it up because it's one that has been talked about in books and stuff from from this year you can get
[00:52:09] Crawl the Alexander Aja film that St. Raimi produced that movies fun as hell and I cannot wait to pick it up. You can get The Haunting of Hill House which was a Netflix show directed by Mike Flanagan who did Gerald's Game and apparently that's also going to
[00:52:24] have like an alternate version of like a director's cut of the episodes so that'll be interesting. From Warner Archives you can get The Fearless Vampire Killers from 1967 and I believe that is yep that's Polanski's film with Sharon Tate so yeah if you want to
[00:52:43] see the movie where they met check that out. If you're like Ryan and don't care about Polanski I totally understand and don't need to watch it. There's the Twin Peaks box set coming to Blu-ray which has got every fucking thing Twin Peaks has to offer in one setting.
[00:53:00] I will be picking that up because I do want to revisit Twin Peaks and I don't necessarily want to stream it. You can get The Ultraman Complete series. It looks like this is the original one from 66 to 67 and there's two different covers for it.
[00:53:18] From Arrow you can get Killer Nun which shows a Nun looking sinister and then another person with their mouth taped shut so okay. I wonder what those Nuns are doing to each other. Screen Factory is putting out the Omen Deluxe Edition where you can get every
[00:53:35] film in the Omen series including the remake from 2006 all in beautiful restorations. I would definitely pick that up if you're a horror fan because Screen Factory treats their shit correctly. And then lastly in 4K you can get Stuber which I did not see.
[00:53:54] I think you're the only one who did Brad am I correct. Yeah the only one in the entire country. Showed up for that movie. It's a fun diversion. Oh and also if you like John Luke Picard there's a Blu-ray collection where it's Picard movie and TV collection
[00:54:14] just seems like it's another standalone thing. It apparently has the best of both worlds. The chain of command and it's got all four of his movies theatrical releases. So interesting collection that covers just John Luke Picard and his awesome visage which I guess
[00:54:39] it's good if you want to get ready for Picard the television series featuring older Brad Spiner as data but Brad has theories that this is all of an inner dream in his head. So I feel like the trailer seems pretty certain. I'm hoping it's wrong.
[00:55:00] All I know is sense he blew up and Nemesis but didn't he but he moved into before that's that's the indication when he whistles that thing. Yeah. I mean I don't know if they'll follow through on it. I don't know if they're going to ignore Nemesis like
[00:55:14] all I know is I saw a still over Fox named William Riker come back in that trailer and that's what's got me excited and pumped. And recent I talked about it if he does not have a trombone solo in this show we will all be worse for it.
[00:55:28] So that's that's pretty strict. Yeah. The requirements of you. You know what they put it enough on that show that I am hooked and I want it so it looks like a feature film. It's crazy. I know it's pretty amazing that Trek.
[00:55:45] You can just wear it all that over trombone solo. You could you could make it with so fickle you can make it with the 60 sets and I wouldn't care just give me the trombone. Why do you want a bone so bad. Hey don't pick a bone with me
[00:56:00] on this one bones. I'm not weighing in on this kind of thing. That's fine. Is that it for that. That's blue rays. Wow we're already towards the end of the end of the discussion. Well guys it's been wonderful chatting with you breakneck pace.
[00:56:15] I screwed it all up by jumping right into what we were watching. Yeah dude are you kidding we might be wrapped up pretty quickly with enough time to eat dinner. I think we're sick too so my energy is like dying left and right. Yeah.
[00:56:27] We can pad it a bit. What do you have to beyond movies Aaron. I have well it's not beyond movies but related to movies. My next feature Doc starts shooting on Wednesday. Yeah. So which this will be after that so anyway the 16th of
[00:56:43] October is when we start shooting our next doc. It's about a recording studio in Fort Collins Colorado and it's kind of a the way I would describe it to people is it's the punk rock version of Sound City. So yeah very DIY very you know not Paul McCartney
[00:57:02] showing up in my basement to track a record but that'd be amazing if he did though. Would be yeah if you're listening Paul McCartney I'll send you my address. I don't have a recording studio in my basement. I'd also don't have a basement.
[00:57:16] Hey Ringo did you hear this podcast. But you are down to hang out. We are down to hang out. Is he a vegetarian. And so we can have some dinner. Cool. Oh yeah sorry so that's yeah that's really our big thing is getting that going and then
[00:57:35] yeah I think I felt like there was something else but that's the big news for me Wednesday. Good luck with that. Thank you. You know. Zach we've been doing. I was gone last week because I had a bunch of pre-production work to do on a pitch
[00:57:50] trailer that I'm working on for a horror film. That I shoot at the end of October in New Hampshire and I was also helping out a friend two friends of mine Brian Richards and Jayce Peridon they were putting together a project and I helped them get some
[00:58:06] organization done and help them out with some costumes and props and makeup. So yeah I've been busy busy busy even a little bit and just editing Chamois stuff before I head out to New Hampshire so which by the way the next episode if you're listening at
[00:58:22] this point the recent episode is Corinne did The Lady Vanishes. So you'll be able to check that out. The next episode will be coming out when I'm out of town will be Jack Hanley came in and talked about four Hitchcock films that directly tie into each other
[00:58:38] thematically in terms of his approach to the serial killer kind of genre. So we talk about The Lodger we talk about rope we talk about Psycho a little bit more and then we talk about Frenzy which is a film that doesn't get discussed often enough
[00:58:56] but yeah and then I've just been writing my own stuff but that's for me to work with until I feel like revealing it. Then you guessed it on another podcast for us. I did I was on the History's What If show you can check that out.
[00:59:10] We talked about actors if they had not turned down or not lost out on certain roles. So like the big example was if Eric Stoltz had played Marty McFly all the way through and like that was it. And did you just come up with some what if scenarios
[00:59:29] based on that I did Eric Stoltz for Back to the Future and I also did Jeremy Irons for Hannibal. So the you should listen to the episode but my prediction for if Jeremy Irons had played Hannibal was very lucrative for Brian Fuller based on how I wrote it
[00:59:46] out because basically his wonderful show would have been able to go on as long as it friggin needed to. Was he supposed to play Hannibal in Sanissel Lambs or Hannibal? Sanissel Lambs. OK. But no he turned down and then Hopkins was pursued and movie history was made.
[01:00:07] But since then you can't you can't touch that role. You can't know Mads Mickelson has been able to do it. But like in terms of like it's just Tony Hopkins is eternally attached to that role. So it's what he will be remembered for in the Opets.
[01:00:24] Well that and Odin I guess from the Marvel movies. But but yeah. And that's pretty much it. Oh that and I've been thinking of what would Paul McCartney say if he was listening to this podcast. And I think a lot of it's like I don't like Brad's review
[01:00:38] of 47 hours. I like that movie. It was a fun movie. I heard to believe that he's watched it. You know what I love. I loved I loved Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3. I thought it was the fun turtle movie. The first ones too boring
[01:00:54] but the third one had time traveling ninjas. You sound like Stewie trying to do a poem with that. I'm not saying it was great. I'm just I'm just thinking of what he's saying. Like I have not been. I've not claimed to be a great beetle impersonator.
[01:01:11] And just I am thinking though about Simpson's episode where Ringo Starr writes a margin letter back is like thanks. Thank you for the lovely drawing I don't get told me whoa. How about you Brad. What have you been up to. Yeah what have you been up to Brad.
[01:01:25] I actually just committed to screening John Claude Van Ames Damvan for the fifth anniversary at the Bug Theater November 10th. Hell yeah Sunday November to the day that we screened it. So Sunday November 10th right. Bug Theater 7 p.m. We're going to screen the movie
[01:01:43] and then some of the bonus features that end up on the Blu-ray. You should do a Q and A anniversary Q and A where you have to reassemble the stage. That's too difficult. Is it. Yeah is it. It is. No it's not. There's some people who just
[01:01:58] won't be able to be there already I know. You know it won't be as a lab or it is the premiere but it'll be a nice you know the when it premiered the bug didn't have its five point one surround system and had the smaller screen.
[01:02:11] So as a chance kind of presented correctly and the film wasn't finished. That's right because it was still an unfinished one you were telling me that we're going to show the movie anyway. The finished one screened at the Alamo so now this one will be all the
[01:02:24] bells and whistles right on perfect. I expected bells and whistles at this show but I'm trying to get the Blu-ray done for that. Show so that's what I'm going to be doing for like the next three weeks really hard is making that music video and the Blu-ray.
[01:02:38] Oh all right. And printing new shirts and I've made a huge mistake trying to get all this done with my on top of my job. I just want to get Mayor Nov telling my my nephew happy birthday in the mode you want that
[01:02:56] because I think it would be hilarious. He wouldn't say happy birthday at all. I know he wouldn't. That's the point. He would fuck himself. Get out of my face get your body make me like oh my God this is hilarious. Yeah. But good congratulations. Thanks. Yeah that's awesome.
[01:03:12] And you are also like I said you're showing Sulfur X at the ESP. Did you also have a screening of catastrophe coming up or is that already. Yeah that's the three nights of horror at the Ifsock it's like an independent film society of Colorado showcase. OK.
[01:03:30] So it's really more about screening actually like deep red I think is their big get this year. OK. So just three nights of horror films more mainstream well known stuff and then some of the local indie stuff is sprinkled in in between. So catastrophes in there
[01:03:46] somewhere I don't know what day of the three days yet. But OK. Yeah. And we'll go to that festival all three days and you may see catastrophe. Yeah or online or not maybe they'll forget. Yeah. That's what's going on. Right on. So I guess finally
[01:04:03] we've been beating around a bush bitch. We need to talk about a movie bitch. This is Jesse Pinkman bitch to add bitch to whatever you're saying. Oh you don't want to hear the other one. Skylar Jesse. Oh my god. Start picking movies you can do impressions of Skylar.
[01:04:24] Do you have a Jane's time of Bob impression you're going to unload on us next week. No. I'd love to hear your silent Bob impression. You failed it already. I got. Hey I got nothing. So this week we watched El Camino. Erin should people watch El
[01:04:47] Camino the Breaking Bad movie. No maybe. Yes it's complicated. Interesting. Zach it's complicated is my favorite Alec Baldwin movie by the way. No it's not. Should people watch. El Camino. Yeah. But there's baggage with that and we could talk about it in spoilers because this movie is
[01:05:08] nothing but spoilers. I will say that I was impressed that I having not rewatched Breaking Bad in a while that I was able to get back into it pretty well. But I also observed that like if somebody was going in blank I think they would understand
[01:05:26] the basics of it but the emotional core of that film is tied so heavily into the series. And we'll talk a little bit more about it in spoilers. Brad should people watch El Camino a Breaking Bad story saga. Yeah absolutely hard heavy recommend.
[01:05:46] You know in comparison to say Deadwood I think they did a great job of telling its own story while also because I haven't watched the series in a long time either. So it was just enough to help me remember what I had forgotten. Right. And it's also amazingly
[01:06:05] able to condense kind of the arc of Walter White across five seasons into you know an hour and a half just for Jesse because he's obviously and it gotten I guess harder. Yeah. He's not he's more dangerous in this movie. He's more dangerous and he's much more broken.
[01:06:29] Yeah he's broken and I and I loved how meticulous they were about going through the story like showing very small details. It was great. So here's the trailer for El Camino a Breaking Bad movie.
[01:08:14] Begin. I need. This. So. More. You ready. Yeah. I'm glad that you agree with me on the whole on it able to operate on its own like in its own way like it is its own story. I think that there are certain moments that are so
[01:09:05] specifically connected to the show. Kristen Ritter Kristen Ritter's appearance now being one of them because other than that moment she has not talked about it all whatsoever. But like but in terms of other characters like the Candy Weldar owner who is who he interacts with throughout
[01:09:27] the movie and Ed Robert Forster's character and even even skinny and badger like I mean that those things are you're able to enter into that way better if you even haven't seen that show. But I think there is an emotional core and there are emotional payoffs with those
[01:09:48] characters that require you to know what Breaking Bad has been for five seasons. Yeah I think I think it resonates with me because I did watch Jesse suffer in that final season. Yeah. And you get a little bad that in this but yeah if
[01:10:02] you are unfamiliar with the series you will probably be left in the cold. Yeah and that's kind of my like approach for the yes no like uncertain answer is if you haven't watched it. I don't if you haven't watched Breaking Bad I don't think
[01:10:13] you should watch the movie because it you're not going to know what's really going on right the characters. It really is for the audience but that being said if you were satisfied with the conclusion of the show you don't like for me if
[01:10:26] you hadn't asked me to come on I would never have watched El Camino because I was like I was totally satisfied with how Breaking Bad ended. I don't need any more of that story in that world. So I had no intention of watching it.
[01:10:39] Having said that though do you like appreciate how they were able to wrap up Jesse or are you kind of just meh on it. I honestly think it made it I've made it made his conclusion worse than the show did because in the show
[01:10:51] I thought OK he got out like he's been off the radar for so long he's been forgotten about and then and then in the movie now based on the police response to the Lojak car which I still don't know why was Lojak other than maybe they
[01:11:03] were onto those guys like before all this happened. It's impossible. The based on that police response he would be the most wanted person in America so him going to Alaska to hide out it's very unlikely that that would last very long before someone would
[01:11:17] recognize him and he'd get arrested. So going from the end of the show where it's like oh he got away and he's going to have a good life now when he's out of the game and now I'm like well shit now he's just going to
[01:11:26] probably get caught in a few months. Actually things is a better pilot for a new show where the show is that like how is this fugitive going to survive in Alaska. Which it wouldn't surprise me if we were to hear an announcement months from now
[01:11:40] that that's what might be happening. Yeah. It totally could have been like a huge test marketing ploy to see how a new series of work. Right. I mean I have to disagree with Aaron on it mainly because what I think this film is very effective at is addressing
[01:11:58] Jesse's experience in that final season in a strictly thematic way and less plot driven because I'd have to rewatch all of Breaking Bad to see if I'm still correct about this. But I remember at a certain point that while Jesse has he goes through all that
[01:12:18] suffering and whatnot but the the primary focus was Walter because we're wrapping that we're wrapping this huge story up where he has been our primary focus for five seasons and I felt like Jesse was an afterthought in some respects in the final season. Torture the torturer who's
[01:12:38] going through it the hands of Todd and Jack was standing but and that might be just my perception. So but with this film I appreciated them able to focus a little bit on just how it affects how it affects somebody like that even if
[01:12:53] you're able to walk away because his final moments with Walter at the end of Breaking Bad are very much about pointing out why Walter needs to die. It has very little to do with Jesse's character other than him learning to tell Walter to go fuck himself,
[01:13:10] which is something that should have happened seasons ago. But and also it bothered me at first that they were doing flashbacks that weren't part of the show initially with the same actors who have clearly gotten older and changed physically. But I got past it pretty
[01:13:28] quick because Jesse Plemons in this movie is scary as shit. Like he's scarier than he ever was on the show, in my opinion, like that whole scene with the cleaning lady is fucking unnerving and their funeral for her in the desert. And and Badger and Skinny were
[01:13:44] fun. I like Skinny's moment where you give them his beanie. Yeah, those that was really nice, like bringing those two back and their whole interaction was was a good moment. Yeah. They blew a lot of their money on like Star Trek captain's chairs authentic.
[01:13:57] Yeah, like you can see in the bookshelf behind there's like an enterprise model and then the VHS versions of the next generation TV show box. Like that's a geeky Easter egg. But yeah, and the late great Robert Forster's wonderful reprising his role as Ed and that scene in
[01:14:17] the vacuum shop is great. Like it reminds me of moments in the show that I like, but also did remind me of how much I like Robert Forster's an actor. Because like that moment where you just say, can I borrow your back? He's just like, I'm
[01:14:30] gathering your belongings. And then Jesse telling him like, I don't believe he made that call and then. Well, the response time is great. And and yeah, and the standoff at the welding plant. Yeah, the shootout. Yeah, that was that was great. It was wonderful because they
[01:14:53] were like, where'd the other gun go? Yeah, that was one of the things I took issue with honestly, that shootout largely because the somehow in his offhand and in his pocket, he's able to shoot the other guy like four times. But then with his dominant hand shooting directly
[01:15:09] at the other guy and aiming, he can't hit him. I was just like, what the hell? Like the other guy missing him a bunch. I get it. He just did a bunch of coke. Like obviously his aims a little off, but Jesse not being able to hit the
[01:15:19] guy forever was a little really moving around, right? I mean, they were the second guy. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it's the second guy. But even so, I just it seemed a little like silly and the fact that neither one of them
[01:15:31] could hit the other one for so long in such a small space. I mean, come on. But you know, it's great when that first guy that he kills is leaned up against the door and he kicks the door open and he just falls backward
[01:15:42] and then he tells the others to get the fuck out. He's like, give me your ideas. I know all your names. Like that was great. I mean, that's the thing there were there were aspects like within that scene that were great. Yeah.
[01:15:52] Then like it was derailed a little bit by other things where I was like, really? I just yeah. Again, I don't not like it, but I'm very much on the like it was OK. Right. Fence. Yeah. I mean, like at the end of the day,
[01:16:05] if I had to like be blunt about it, like the movie is not necessary. However, for me, I enjoyed it a lot and and I liked the scene between him and Cranston. It's a nice it's a nice reminder of why you were watching those two all those years.
[01:16:25] The Kristen Ritter scene, I think was the weakest and it's only because it's just kind of like it almost feels like it's it's thematically setting up something for that whole experience, but I feel like it's a little underserved. Yeah. And also, like again, regarding your needing to watch
[01:16:41] the series probably is the letter at the end. You know, I was like, who's Brock? Yeah. Toly Frog Brock was. Yeah. And then you were. Yeah. Yeah. And I looked it up after I saw the movie and it's like, oh, yeah. But yeah, no.
[01:16:57] It's an action and actually I have not been watching Better Call Saul. So I keep forgetting that there's more breaking bad technically that you can watch. So right. We should Netflix. We get the four season already. Don't get it until they won't. When I assume like also,
[01:17:14] I mean, you guys both mentioned it too. I haven't seen this series in a really long time. So I feel like if I sat down and rewatched it and then watched that, I might be a little more on board with things or feel like
[01:17:23] because to me it felt like something I really appreciated about the movie was it felt like a TV show. Like a lot of times when they do like a movie sequel to a TV show, it feels like a movie and it feels different and wrong for that
[01:17:37] reason. Right. And this really did feel like just an extended episode of Breaking Bad where I could see it fitting within the timeline in the context of that show. Right. It didn't like transcend that. You could watch it right after the last episode and feel like
[01:17:52] you're just content. The actual last episode. Yeah. Yeah. Just would just be like a one long episode as opposed to a regular one. I will say that visually there's a it feels like there's a little more scope in the camera work on
[01:18:03] this one than an episode of the show. Like there's a lot. There are way more wide angles than I remember that show having and or I should say holding on those wide angles like because generally on the show, they would still do your general
[01:18:17] J and L back and forth. But that scene where they're inside Plemons is in Todd's apartment and they're like just standing there in the entryway and whatnot, they're holding there for a good long while. So clearly Vince Gilligan knows how to direct a movie versus just another
[01:18:35] episode of the show. But but I understand within that respect too, because like also it did feel like this belongs in the Breaking Bad universe visually tonally stylistically. Him searching Todd's apartment with that that overhead grid was very much in keeping with the show. So.
[01:18:58] But yeah, no, I had fun with it. I almost kind of appreciated watching it having not watched Breaking Bad for a while because it reminded me how much I like like Breaking Bad, but also it gave me enough separation to kind of like
[01:19:08] I was eased into it pretty well. Yeah. Cool. Brad. So next week, I think we're seeing Jane Salin Bob Reboot. Oh, ladies, ladies, ladies, Jane Salin, Bob are in the Hizos. So that's a very limited release. If not only two days. Yeah.
[01:19:30] If not, I think JoJo Rabbit actually comes out on the 24th. We've got options as I mean, next next week. Never mind. Yeah. I mean, no, Zombaland actually comes out next week. Oh, Zombaland double tap. Yeah, double tap. Yeah, we could always do that. We have options.
[01:19:46] Speaking of long lulls between sequels. Yeah. Oh, yeah. 10 years actually. So. Janssen Bob Reboot or? No. Oh, Zombaland double tap. Well, I guess technically there's been a gap for Ray and Silly Bill. Yeah. 2006 was the last time they're on the screen. Clarkers too.
[01:20:05] If you don't count Groovy Movie. Which? I don't. That's fine. 13 years. But yeah, I was going to say shit. To distract me. I mean, I guess we didn't talk about that. Kevin Smith is going to make Clark's three after all. Oh, yeah. That's some news. Yeah.
[01:20:28] So it's all out of order. Randall Reboot because they're going to make clerks within clerks. I just want a live action version of the I'm the biggest idiot ever gag. I remember what I was going to say. My favorite part of the Zombaland marketing
[01:20:43] is that they're all Oscar nominated people. In fact, Emma Stone's one one. Yeah. In this zombie movie. So yeah, that is fun. Yeah. They're really they're pushing that angle and I appreciate it. Yeah. Lots happened to those people in 10 years. Oh yeah. Not us though.
[01:21:00] No, no, I am not an academy. Same thing. I am not an Academy Award nominee despite my many claims in public while yelling and tearing my shirt off. You know. So Aaron, thanks for coming. Yeah, thanks for having me again. Yeah. Yeah. Good luck on your shoot. Yep.
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