Ep. 150: Amazing Spider-Friends

[00:00:00] Hi, this is Jonathan Tirsten from the Perfect House and Sleepboy Camp and you are listening to The Real Nerds Podcast.

[00:00:52] This week we had the pleasure of seeing the amazing Spider-Man 2 summer movies have officially started and they'll officially end with teenage mutant Ninja Turtles bread. Is it really what it is? No, it's like I think it is. I think it is August 17th.

[00:01:06] Well I guess it goes a little long. I guess it was eight or something. Huh. Is it the week after Guardians? Ah, I think it's the week before. Can we count Guardians as the count characters? Fine, no we can't.

[00:01:17] Alright, well I'm just saying is before, now to get a bit you about it. Someone known, cork braids underwear up his butt. You. Wow. Hey just because you don't like that they have snouts on their meat doesn't mean you have taken out on me. Okay.

[00:01:31] Yeah, I saw the trailer in IMAX 3D last night. It's pretty cool. Not true. Not true. IMAX 3D. No. I mean I think it's like you know seven feet shorter than a true IMAX screen. It substantially shorter. Is it really?

[00:01:47] Yeah, no it's half the size of IMAX screen. Yeah, that's something like that. But you're just nothing able to say that it's an IMAX because it's still running. It's they projected. It's a little bit of a little bit shorter on the top and the bottom. Yeah.

[00:01:59] On the sides it's fine. Um, that's exactly he's been by the way. Yes. Hey. Hey. I really wanted to do that. You sound like the green goblin from the 1960s cartoon. Yeah. And you know what? I captured that 60s era that everybody forgets. Hey, here's a spider man.

[00:02:17] Fun fact. You know the green goblin voice actor from the 60s was the same one who did it in the 1990s cartoon show. Really? Yeah, he was a green goblin for a lot of the cartoons until um, spectacular spider man actually. Oh well, yeah.

[00:02:32] Yeah, I forget his name. I never really watched the uh, the Marvel one from the 90s. The uh, amazing spider man one. Like I know it was like spider. Yeah. And spider man. Radio active spider man. Yeah.

[00:02:45] That was that was how I learned to like spider man was that show. Yeah. And then James ruined it for me because you know I always liked the show. Because I really liked the guy who did the voice for Peter Parker.

[00:02:54] Yeah, he's still the voice of Peter Parker in my head. Yeah. Uh, and then James says you know when you watch that show, Spider man never punches anybody. And all the villains defeat themselves. Yep. I said bullshit James.

[00:03:05] So I put in the one where he fights the green goblin for the first time. Me, yep. The green goblin beats himself. Then the one after that, Mysterio beats himself. One of that craven beats himself. That's why it's spectacular spider man.

[00:03:16] The cartoon is so great because it's totally real violent. But the stories like the characters and that one are really good. Like I really care about the people in that one. Yeah, the only one I was also like eight. But yeah, no, it's fair.

[00:03:29] You know when the green goblin had a gun that would teleport him to different worlds. Yeah. When they went into like mad and wet. That whole thing was bad. That's still fun. Yeah. I still watch him totally.

[00:03:41] I still hope they at least some you know is like one volume. Yeah. Like a collection. Yeah. So they're still like the ultimate villain showed him. So they're always broke out. So how does it always like individual point of this to DVD?

[00:03:54] Yeah, I just like I want the whole thing. It's it's time. Yeah, it is. But nobody likes us. Anyways, we also talk about movies we've been watching. comic books you should be reading box office numbers. Stuff that's coming out on Blu Ray and DVD.

[00:04:11] Mostly just Blu Ray, fuck DVD. Yeah. I'm putting my missing. News. Great. We're going to have to talk about somebody dying this week. Yeah. Maybe we got a maybe got the wrong mushroom. That's super. This is super. This is super Mario. Super Mario. That's very beautiful.

[00:04:32] And that and that movie it always drove me crazy because I think Princess would call him Mario. And then Luigi would call him Mario. Yeah. It's called Mario. Anyways. There's a little cliffhanger for what we're going to talk about in news guys. Yep, time to start the show.

[00:04:55] Yeah. What the fuck are we going to do? Hey James, welcome back. You weren't here last week. Thank you. Yeah. That was the big easy. Uh, exhaust. Did you get fucked up every night? Yep. Nice. Why just didn't sleep is that the same? Yes. Okay. Yeah.

[00:05:10] I got fucked up every night when men, Brandon were there. Uh, he. We went to, you know, in the French quarters or as easy as bars all they do is poor slushy. Alcohol and drinks out. Yeah.

[00:05:19] And we started delicious because it's hot as balls down there and they gave you a free shot for it. And so I got like blue raspberry gay, a string you can possibly get there. Yeah. And then they gave you a free shot.

[00:05:31] I didn't want the shot but Brandon's like, I'll take the shot. I want the jet fuel. There's a name with a shot. And he shot it anyway. Any fucking died on the street. As like, I was likely able to revive him. But you know, how?

[00:05:45] I didn't know you'd saved someone's life. I did from alcohol poisoning. I did. That's insane. You truly are the amazing. Thank you. It was funny too because when we were there, we were walking down the French quarter. That was just, I'm blivvious, you know.

[00:06:01] I'm just keep on walking. Oh, the architecture here is so unique. It's from early, the 18th century and you can see the detail of Brandon said, Oh, don't go any farther dude. There's lots of black people down there. He did not. He did. Oh my god.

[00:06:15] And because the French quarter is really brightly lit until you get to a certain area that he gets really dark. Yeah. And he says, just come back. Come back to the light. So we started walking. This is a true story, by the way.

[00:06:27] So we started walking away and out of the alley this African American gentleman started coming towards us. And Brandon started like walking first. Oh my god, here it comes. And this black guy comes up to me and he goes, Hey, man, he hits me on the shoulders like,

[00:06:42] I have fun. I mean, he just got fun walking. He said a little bit. I was like, I was at church like a week before this and told somebody, Just weird old dude I've never run into before named Joe when I told him,

[00:06:54] Oh, man, I go to New Orleans and he was like, oh, be careful down there. And I said, oh, yeah, why? They support other cultures. He said he just said other cultures. He didn't say like sinful evil, you know, You'll find yourself in a good.

[00:07:16] No, just other cultures. He didn't want you to kick a midget because then you grow a tail. That is true. Yeah, it's crazy. I mean 2001 every single corner of every street, mini-mart with lots of liquor. I went to the CVS.

[00:07:32] There was more liquor in the CVS than there were pharmaceuticals. It was ridiculous. That's pretty much every street in LA. Every CVS pharmacy you go in there. There's nothing but big tall bottles of pinnacle vodka there. Well, isn't it?

[00:07:44] Can you make the argument that alcohol is a pharmaceutical? I mean, it can help dull the pain. The pain of rejection and loss of angeles. I guess. Drop my phone. I should break one more. Yeah. Cool. So James, you know, you run vacation. What should we do first?

[00:08:03] Oh, fuck. He's going to talk about someone who died. You got these people here. I feel like we should find out who they are. Do you want to buy introducing? Since I don't mind at all. I don't mind at all. I just don't know.

[00:08:13] I want to take the lead on. Where were going? There you go. It's called a segway. I came back into Denver. Thanks. But I'm on to go when I came back in Denver. I'm a filmmaker friend of mine. Reach out to me.

[00:08:26] He said that he wanted to, I made come out and take a look at this project that he's working on. It's called two years since Friday. It's a short film. It's really kind of spoke out to me and I wanted to bring out the director for real nerds.

[00:08:40] It's Tony Gross. Cool. How's it going? Nice to meet you, Tony. I kept on expecting to say two years of slave. I don't know why. Jesus. It's a much shorter and much depressing movie. When he says I will survive, it's a little bit like me. Yeah.

[00:08:54] It's like, yeah, it was bad. But it wasn't bad for that long. It's a preferred smith. Sorry. No, really talk about that. Sorry. Oh, yeah. I'm just here because it's like Zack. You just brought me onto this really super cool podcast. Nice. Yeah.

[00:09:11] Thanks for judging us so quickly. Oh, yeah. No, I've listened before dude. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Man, there he is. That's the guy. He's the one who's been listening. Yes. No, but, but, yeah, no, it's just me and Zack were pretty close. We're almost completely don't pre-production.

[00:09:26] All we need is just like funding. So we have a Kickstarter page up right now that you can like fund or whatever. And the link is on, like, the Facebook page of either me, Zack or the official two years since right day Facebook page.

[00:09:37] I feel it's just a jerk. I'm just like, hey, I'm walking in your house. I'm plugging stuff. Like it's always doing. That's what we're supposed to do, right? That's what he's doing. That's what he's doing. Me for the past year. Yeah. That's what that ends.

[00:09:48] Zack keeps on judging me. Oh, God. Such a dick. What do you mean? That's what this house is for. Everything. Everything. No, me and Zack have this funny fake rivalry. It's like Jack, Jack, Jack, Benny and Fred Allen back in the day. I got a 40-year old.

[00:10:02] You throw all you 80-year old people listening. Lots of them. Yeah. Granny's down there. Whoa. They still think they're there. They're talking about horse sticks. Hey, I'll still think they've seen a horse stick this year. It is. Yeah.

[00:10:19] James's mother calls me crass because I talk about horse dogs. Yeah. All I do is swear on me. Yeah. She's never said one thing to me and it's the horrible things that will come out of my mouth. I don't let her listen to your episodes.

[00:10:31] I just want to try to get about the ways that she'll horse stick. I tell her I'm not on that one. I haven't talked about donkey ball come yet. Whoa, wait a minute. Whoa, yeah. There we go. But no Tony's film.

[00:10:44] I highly encourage you to check it out. It's a script that really spoke out to me. We're in the fundraising process right now. We're hoping to start shooting near the end of June.

[00:10:54] So if anybody out there wants to kick in about five, ten bucks, please visit the site. We'll be updating with videos and funny little things to help promote this campaign as much as possible.

[00:11:05] Tony, if I give you ten dollars, what the fuck are you going to give me? Do we got prizes? Yeah. Yeah, do prizes. He says that in biguously. Tell me like, like 10 bucks, like adhesive medical strips. Nice. You're going to take me to Subway? Yeah. All right.

[00:11:21] Do I have to get the subway up of the month or make it whatever I want? Whatever I want to do to me is to be fly, be like this. Yeah, he's still got to get some funding out of the watch. Gotcha.

[00:11:30] If you just get an Italian BMT, that might take the whole ten dollars. Really? That's a quality item. Yeah. James gets double meat. Whatever he goes. I get oil and vinegar. They upcharge for that. James, whatever. Forget it. They always charge me for it.

[00:11:48] You think they just give you the double meat for free? Well, why? Because I'm the faking. No. I don't understand what you mean. Anyway, I've got another guest here. Oh my god. Do you just been sitting here like this? Yes. I can introduce it. Okay.

[00:12:06] Tony, ask him if he likes the double meat. I'll offer you a double meat after this question there. Oh, fuck. Anyways, introduction to this is Andrew Olis who's also a Denver filmmaker. Very accomplished filmmaker. I submitted his stuff around starting to do like festival stuff.

[00:12:20] But yeah, take it away. Pump some stuff. Well, hey there. Andrew Olis. I don't know what Tony was talking about that accomplished thing. But I guess if you know anything of mine would be detective Meredith Hitler, SPI, which may or may not be premiering at Denver Comic-On. Nice.

[00:12:46] When that is. Are you part of the real heroes? The filmmaking? No. That sounds cool though. What is that? You submit films by yesterday. Great. Let me just jot that down real quick. She's 12, please not 12. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That they showcase in their festival.

[00:13:10] That is too late for you now, sir. It's too late. It's okay. Just walk around Denver Comic-On with a TV strap here with your movie playing. There you go. Self-promotion. Yep. That always works. You're just a dude. Yeah. Are you talking Denver Comic-On? Oh yeah.

[00:13:26] Well, I guess, well other than that then. Well, I guess we had a pretty good success with our horror film from UCD for the Stanley Dean's Cup last weekend. Did pretty well I think it's called Velvet Voyer.

[00:13:37] So we'll be submitting that around to a couple more to Mile High Horfest. And a couple others like that. My high is badass. Yep. I'm also really cool. Yeah. I know a couple of filmmakers involved with that beyond people that...

[00:13:52] You know Zach, when you hold the mic that far away and you keep on turning your head and you're making it. You're making it. Oh god, I got it. It was all played in the second place. Still can't hear you.

[00:14:02] No, Velvet Voyer just screamed at the Stanley Film Festival. So everybody should be looking out for it soon. I believe you guys have submitted it to other places from what I thought. We will, yeah. Yeah, just so, you know, be on the lookout for it. Cool.

[00:14:19] Oh, welcome, gentlemen. We appreciate you being here. Thank you. Always welcome to promote shit on our show. Sweet. But that's not why I'm here. I'm here for one specific reason which we'll come later in the show. Oh no. Yeah, stay tuned for the review of the amazing statement.

[00:14:34] Stay tuned for when Zach derails everything. Oh man. Dude, the whole car right here. Like just me and Andrew were like, no, it was a pretty rad movie. Like I liked it. You're spawning. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't talk about the review yet.

[00:14:47] You're just like trailers that move you're spoiling everything. That was a five second teaser. This is five second teaser. Do these guys like the movie? Stay tuned to the end of the show of Real Newspotcast. Yeah, for Ryan to beat the shit out of Zach.

[00:14:58] I've been crying for it. Never. Never. Never. Never. Never. Never. Never. Get back together. I'm going home. Now we OT their Swift like $500 for just doing that little. No, you can do like 30 seconds before you or anybody might really. Yeah, whatever. She's the little hydra who cares.

[00:15:19] That's how it likes. That's how music works. You can sell your car. You can sell your car. You're refridged. Yeah. I'm a dude. I love that. We'll talk about it later. I love that.

[00:15:30] So if you are a fan of knowing what movie was the number one movie last week. By dollar amounts. Here it is. This is the box of the shag. The number one movie last week was I remember what the fuck came out last week.

[00:15:49] It was the other woman. I didn't. I did that. I miss it all. 24 million. I think it was the other one. I can't do a proper mic drop on this. Isn't it funny when when broken and dead. I'm trying to break it. No, wait, what's her name? Captain.

[00:16:04] Kate. Yeah, yeah. She's running. She's a mom. I don't think he cares. So I'm so mad. Do you see her breasts? That's why people care. He's got a point. You have breasts. I do. Oh, you son of a bitch. I'm sorry. I didn't want to compliment your straightaway.

[00:16:20] I'm going to beat the shit out of you. Wow. We're two. Yes or doesn't get to come on the show ever again. Are you guys still associated with it? This is your chance to be like I don't. Yeah, this is my one in final chance. Yeah.

[00:16:30] Guess who doesn't love Zach. Everybody likes Zach sometimes. Yeah, the other woman 24.7 million dollars. There's just a lot of money. What did draft day do? Me and Brad's out draft day last week. Let me scroll down to 2.7. Number 12. So we're part of that, Brad. We're part of the 2.7.

[00:16:53] I think you were the 7. Yeah. What was number two then? Was it cap 2 or cap 2? Yeah. That was a cap 2. So that's still holding the show. Yeah. Oh, for sure. Dude, that movie is amazing. Pretty good. Pretty good. Yeah. Cool. Man, I want to buy some blue rays.

[00:17:10] I bet if I log onto digital bits.com and select upcoming releases, I can buy them from Amazon. DVD release to do. You can't. You can't. I better do that really quick. You haven't done it yet? No, I have. Okay. For anicomarts. Oh, yeah.

[00:17:28] I just figured out that. I didn't know that was coming out. You see that yet? Yeah. Yeah. Did you like the show? I've seen bits and pieces. You should watch the show first. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I like the movie but you've already missed it in theaters.

[00:17:40] So buy the movie, buy the show, watch the whole thing. It's all fucking fans. It's pretty short, right? It's like three seasons. Yeah, three seasons. Yeah. Yeah. And super solid. I'm rewatching through it now with my folks and they man. That. It's a rare show.

[00:17:53] A really smart mystery show where somebody doesn't die every week. Like, it's really. And Kristen Bell is beautiful. Yeah, especially her eyes. I know very like symmetrical. I know I get lost in them. Uh huh.

[00:18:05] Some of Batman come to this week which is like a, as an animated one. Brad, just nod your head up and down whether or not you want to see some of Batman. Is that a thing that people should see? Okay. That was a shrug.

[00:18:15] Why is Damian Wayne so popular? That was also a shrug. He's not popular. I was glad when they got rid of him from the comics. Yeah. Seems like he's experienced some renaissance. Has he? What? Yeah, there's just plenty of people. Yeah, yeah.

[00:18:33] Ryan saying that he has his own comic book now. From the get go like calling the little troubled kid Damian and the comic, it just seems so uninventive. Yeah. So kind of wrote him off after that and then he's, something like a little Jason Todd.

[00:18:47] You don't like Batman either do you? What? You don't like Batman either do you? Yeah. And then he, it brings him into the comics in like 30 years. He has a comic of like 30 years. His matter fits a bad idea. It's still part of the history.

[00:18:59] And you're like, oh Mr. Mixer, Max is the greatest Superman villain of all day. He is. I really like typeface. If I had to pick a Spider-Man villain for the next Spider-Man movie to be typeface. You know he throws explosive letters at the floor.

[00:19:13] He would be way more, he would be way more brilliant than whatever. We'll talk about it later. It would be fair. Like look, the dot sounds really lame. Oh the spot? The spot is awesome.

[00:19:24] But every now and then like a villain like that pops in in the right way. You use them well and they're cool. Yeah. Just don't write it out right here. Like Damian, Damian Wayne is. No you can't make the typeface cool. Sorry. No you probably not. Probably not.

[00:19:40] Probably do. For like a good three minutes without the conversation about the Wayne Brothers. No it's just that. Whoa. I think that's fair. I just got transport to a whole new level. I think that's certainly fair. I could get into a nano-local discussion about scary movie too.

[00:19:55] I just hear a movie too has one of my favorite stupid lines of all time. Is there in the mansion and that kid from Malcolm in the middle I forget his name is walking down on There's blood on the ground. It says, oh gross who's on the rag?

[00:20:07] I fucking love that one. Because it's nasty. Yeah. I'm just a throwaway line. The story of the Jews. Is it true? I'm waiting. What the fuck? No, I'm moving back to what's coming out this week. I said is it cheap? Ha ha ha ha. Well it's from PBS.

[00:20:25] Right now I'll never work in Hollywood. Probably not. The story of the Jewish News. There's this week. And then a bunch of hitchhikers. So the birds, Vertigo, all in a very different show. No no they're just, they're just blue ray releases. That's a good little special.

[00:20:42] I think it's a blue ray release this week, but again not a really nice looking one. For some reason I would think that the Spielberg movies would get like fucking dope ass blue ray releases. But I don't think he cares. He knows.

[00:20:54] I know he doesn't care, but like there are people who can make a lot of money. They can make the same year as a money by the way. There are not that many people who are going to like run out and be like,

[00:21:02] oh I have to buy this version of Amistad. Did you look at how many disks are in this set? See, here's the thing with Spielberg movies though. Is they do he always releases two versions. Yeah. Whether it's War Horse, War the Worlds, catch me if you can.

[00:21:16] The terminal he always has special editions plus here's the movie. And here's an EPK of me saying, I really like the idea. He never does a commentary. He never does like the even the Lincoln four disks set look bare bones. But his is documentary.

[00:21:33] He's usually pretty good and I mean Lincoln's good. I love the jazz documentary on the blue ray of jazz. The charcoz. The charcoz still lives. Yeah. Jauss is one of the best blue rays he's made. That documentary, 90 minutes and one is amazing.

[00:21:47] Oh, psychos also getting another blue ray released this week. Nice. So that's cool. There's a steel book version of Jurassic Park and then what was the last one? Oh, uh, there's a whole bunch of Godzilla movies because they're capitalizing on something. But I can't tell what.

[00:22:02] Oh well, I don't know what it could be. Was that a baby? Did somebody just think of a baby? Why what was that? The coolest trailers of the year. Oh, Julia. Yeah. And your son's been born premature. It sounds like Godzilla. My favorite IMDV.

[00:22:20] You know, the most funny is we did decide to name him. Kaju. So I think that's pretty good. Anyway, I think that's everything. I don't think I'm listening. I'm all the way down to X man. So there was something good.

[00:22:35] By an enemy alliance too is getting another release. It's a bit of a film about the terminal. Are they really fine? I'm blue ray. I love that, Olivia. It's very, uh, an unexpected, um, Spielberg classic for me.

[00:22:53] I had an expect to see to think it was that good. Yeah. It's Tom Hanks is amazing. Hell yes. I was bored at work and I was just fucking around on Jimmy Fallon.com.

[00:23:04] And I posted on Facebook he does his slam poetry of full house that makes me laugh so hard. It's literally Tom Hanks talking about the episode of Full House where they try to win Beach Boy tickets. And it's amazing. You would be that good.

[00:23:22] Have you seen Cloud Atlas? Yeah, yeah. I totally dug a minute. Yeah. I couldn't believe how I didn't think that movie was going to work period. Yeah. But it ended up working somehow and he was a great part of it.

[00:23:35] Some of it works, some of its hit or miss for me. Yeah. The future talk drove me bananas. Yeah. Is that the true true? Yes. That is the true true. Oh God. There's this shit shit. Just tough. I get what you did there. Anyway, that's blue ray.

[00:23:51] They made a cloud Atlas reference on Rick and Morty. Because they met. I'm not seeing the show. It's great. It's fantastic. So you have a new adult swim thing. Oh, cool. I'm getting old. I'm not old enough to stay up for adults. I'm more. All right.

[00:24:06] I mean, I'm too old to stay up for it. I got a bad. I'd fall asleep at like 930 now. I can old for a beach. It's so bad. Oh, it's gross. James? But it's time to pull bear down the aisle. This is real news. It's real news.

[00:24:31] I wasn't sure where that metaphor was going, but that's cool. Bob Hoskins said this week. I know. I know. Dude. Please, Eddie. Yeah, that's such a great movie. I love it. Roger I have it. Oh God. We'll stand the test of time. What the hell's the free way?

[00:24:48] I really want to move history. I really love him in hook. Yeah, I see. Yeah. Like he and because that's that's really good Bob Hoskins to me because he's like slap sticky and stuff in that movie.

[00:25:01] But there are some sort of serious dark moments there and he just sort of turns it over and it shows you like, it shows you some good breath. See where I think he's really cool. A lot of people don't give credit for his unleashed with jet Lee.

[00:25:13] Oh, yeah. He's good in that way, right? Yeah. I like him a super Mario brother. Brad really likes him in super Mario brothers. The only movie to ever make me throw up. I mean, I'd been drinking but I'd never throw up. That's going on. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:25:32] But good for him. Yeah. Yeah. He hated them every two, Bret says he's a sweet. You're gonna pay me this much money. Okay. Yeah. It was a nice try. But yeah, I really liked him. He was one of those guys at every time he popped up.

[00:25:46] He popped up. You're like, fuck yeah. You know? Like all of her plan. Every time I see all of them, I'm like, fuck yeah, like, Plastic. Come on. This is awesome. I totally pre-ordered. They have a shout factory. First of like, actually. Like, classic. Oh, wow. That's cool.

[00:26:02] I don't even use the original one sheet poster for the cover art. So it's like this dude fishing and behind him this alley in our mouth is coming. It's amazing. It's amazing. I would pay $100 for a shout factory, blue ray of deep rising. Well, you know what?

[00:26:16] I'm sure it's coming out. That would be amazing. Oh my god. I just for some reason that like lakeplacid and that movie and, you know, they all fit in that same kind of genre to me. Oh. Did you guys see the trailer for that wolf cop yet? Yeah.

[00:26:32] Yeah. There's this half. Yeah. Half man, half wolf and he's a cop who turns into a wolf. That's awesome. Well, yeah. The trailer was make me laugh. I never saw the trailer. I just saw there's a poster for it.

[00:26:46] And the trailer came out this week and it's like, he turns into a wolf and it doesn't look that good but there's parts where he's having sex with a bunch of chicks as the wolf and did the jail. Oh hell yeah. So you make that movie? I did.

[00:27:01] Yeah. It's called wolf fuck. Oh man. Cool. Oh, great. We're on news. Sorry. I bought it out for a second. It's, it's really late and I'm tired. Anyway, Star Wars is happening.

[00:27:19] And we got a lot of casting on Star Wars, which we don't usually talk casting news but like people were coming up to me on the streets and saying like James and I didn't even know them but they were like James. Have you seen the like James?

[00:27:30] The Star Wars casting? What do you think? And usually my response was, I don't give a shit. Who are you? But yeah, I mean it's cool. I like that it's a bunch of people that I don't really know.

[00:27:43] And I really hope it's a lot of characters that I don't really know. My dad posted a link to my Facebook to who is Daisy Ridley, like what's she been in? What am I supposed to do with this? I don't know who she is.

[00:27:56] I don't know who she is. You're Ted's trying to spend some bonding with you by providing a mystery. Yeah. You're all my sons and now. I'm like this. Yeah. There's I cannot relate. There's old cast members in it and new people. Except for many of the crush shows.

[00:28:09] Yeah. Because he was just counting on him being a ghost. And one of them was a column and then they were done. Well, but you know that he's like Andy Circus is just going to be a CG character probably. He's kidding me. Or if he's not.

[00:28:22] I mean, if he's not that cool too. He's a good actor. He's got to be the villain. I'm calling it now. I don't want to see you, Bill. I don't think he's going to be CG. Oh, oh. I think about it.

[00:28:33] Like JJ Smart maybe he'll play him for who he is, which is actually a talented actor, not just a CG. What if he is a CG character? See, they're going to be the next Jar Jar or it's going to be the next bad ass character of all time.

[00:28:47] Yeah, it's got to be one of the other. Can't be. I can't see Andy Circus creating a character who's a Jar Jar. Yeah, I can't be there by. Oh, we some back, you bitches. Yeah, no. It's not.

[00:28:57] It'd be really great if you were like an evil Sith Jar Jar. It's just a fucking bad ass. You show us up. It's like both his ears tied up above his head and like a fucking, you know,

[00:29:08] bandana around his head and like just kicks his shit out of people. He doesn't even use his hands, right? He's like a Jedi who just kicks everyone to death. But he's a Sith. Like that would be cool. And what is him kicking people to death?

[00:29:21] I've to do it with it. I don't care. No, I just want like a badass the gungin. That would be cool. It just be cool, see Hansol though again. Yeah. I want the awesome thing. It's the thing I keep saying like, I want them.

[00:29:36] It's a really great universe with a raw out of depth. I want them to tell me a fun story and have some cool space action scenes like that's all I want. So yeah. And the actress that he's got there are, you know,

[00:29:48] oh, the ones that I know anything of their talents and people like this all lays on the script. And that's what we've said from the beginning. So good weekend. What else is there? On the business fallen? Get in the sequel. Nice. I had to throw that at there.

[00:30:05] Is it as a one-piece has risen? No, it's a one-piece has fallen. Harder two. I thought it was called London. Reason reasonably good. Is it called London is one? That's what I read in slash all. I'll say called London is fallen. Shoot, which is awesome.

[00:30:17] I would have written now. And very less thing because I'm just going to skip through some shit. And the girlfriend was in some interviews this week saying that after he leaves, they should continue what they're doing but have Miles Morales be Spider-man.

[00:30:30] And then the producers are like, we don't like black people. So no, the producers really said that A.V. Erid, I read. Evillierad. Yeah. I think it's weird that he's been very chatty lately. Yeah, it's known he's like he pretends he knows so much about

[00:30:46] Spidey but he says, no, people want Peter Parker. And again, when we get to the point where we get to the review of the movie, I'll tell you one of my favorite moments is it doesn't matter who's behind the mask. It's what the mask represents.

[00:31:01] And so for you to say that people don't want to see Miles Morales, I think it's a big. Yeah, it's stupid. Yeah, Evierad has said some dumb shit and they should probably put him back in his box. It's, yeah. And then he's only really a producer of these.

[00:31:16] It's because he produced the first one. The issue here is also that like Andrew Garfield is probably one of the biggest fans on that shirt on those movies right now. Like he's pretty hardcore about this shit.

[00:31:28] So if he comes out and says, hey, this is what they should do. Yeah, he's probably a pretty good representation of what we know actually want to be Spider-Man like because people are coming to Spider-Man. There are two kinds of people who are coming to Spider-Man.

[00:31:41] There's the real fans who probably aren't going to care that much about whether or not you tell a story that has Peter Parker as long as it's a close Spider-Man story. And then there's people who really don't know any better.

[00:31:50] You tell them that there's a Latino black kid who's Spider-Man now. Fine, that's cool too. And then he can be Danny Glover and I'm on on board with that. They're not Danny Glover, Donald Glover. There you go. Danny Glover too. Do Danny Glover as Spider-Man.

[00:32:05] You got an angel looking after you. I'm too old for this shit. Oh man. That'd be cool. But Spider-Man is rubbing a bank. I'm too old for this shit. Hold on, let me tighten up my girdle. What? I'm getting old, rigs. Yeah.

[00:32:20] But unfortunately, Andrew and I got a split. Oh no. Yeah. Sorry. Oh no, it's okay. I didn't know there was a time crunch. I was the movie. It just hit. It just hit. I'll still be here. Don't worry. Oh, I know what he gives you shit.

[00:32:35] But anybody who just heard Tony for a brief second, he'll be back on a future episode. I'm sure but go check out two years since Friday. Yeah, absolutely. Two years since Friday. Is there a web address or Facebook page? There's a Facebook page.

[00:32:47] There'll be on both Zach and Mind's Facebook. Cool. Yeah, we'll be posting it immediately as soon as we get done this episode tonight. So, awesome. All right. What the? Spider-Man 2. Yeah. Dude. I thought it was pretty red. That was pretty red dude. Yeah. I like you.

[00:33:03] The thing is it's like, I'm super close to the rainy films. Yeah. Really, really close. For sure. And so it's like, I personally thought the amazing Spider-Man was horseshit. I thought it was terrible. Okay. Spider-Man 2, just like, I don't know. Cool. It was cool. It works. Cool. Awesome.

[00:33:23] Yeah. Andrew? Oh, I don't know. Yeah. Everything. And it was fun. All the visual effects were fucking awesome. Jamie Foxx was badass. Hell yeah. Oh my god. That's the review I want for everything. Which do you think is so sweet? It was great. And Jamie Foxx was fun.

[00:33:42] And Jamie Foxx was badass. The hip hop was cool, man. Yeah. It's okay. Thanks for stopping by. Thanks for having me. I really appreciate it. No, it's already too long. Two years since Friday. If you contribute $10, they'll buy you a bagel. One bagel.

[00:34:01] Only one that's all the craft services can afford to this. Yes. I don't make any money. Really, I don't. So, you know, give it a. Oh, since we're still in real news, and I bring up a piece of news that will interest me and Brad

[00:34:13] and also our guests who just left. There's a rumor going around guys. And I'm going to start a segment on the show. We're not a rumor. We're not a rumor. It's a great day. It's about a fucking walrus movie. Johnny, tap is rumored to be in Tusk.

[00:34:30] Come on. What does that mean to you guys? Because I already heard you talking about Mollrats, Blurray last week. You know, like, what do you think? If he does get him. What do you think? I like Kevin Smith. I'm not the biggest Johnny Dup fan.

[00:34:44] So, I think it would probably be the smartest thing for Johnny Dup to do. I think so. Because I think his career is about as stagnant as fucking hell. And all he can do, like even after transcendence, like he does when he's not doing a Johnny Dup character,

[00:35:00] he's doing like Johnny Dup from Nick and Time. And it's like it's like the most bland kind of, you know, thriller version of a dude, right? Where if he did something that was weird and actually required him to work, I think that would be really cool.

[00:35:18] I don't know, when he was last time you actually acted Shaco lot, I don't know. Yeah, no, no, I think yeah, you just pull out a good one. More like that's a really good role. But I don't think he's done anything as good as that would

[00:35:29] since that would. And I love some of the characters, you know, I really love the pirates of the Caribbean movies too. Jack Sparrow is entertaining his fuck. But I don't think it's rich anymore. I mean, I wouldn't say that necessarily. Yeah, I've always loved Johnny Dup.

[00:35:47] I even liked him and I ended up seeing transcendence this week. I actually liked him in the movie. I wasn't a big fan of the story. He's not bad, but he's just not special. But here's the thing, and this is just to wrap it up,

[00:35:58] is I do think that he's just hearing that news alone. Just means like, it means that he's going back into a realm. He hasn't been in since the 90s, which is very smaller up to your films like what he did with John Waters.

[00:36:12] And even with Tim Burton with Edward Ciscerhands. Like he's going back to his roots a little bit. And I think that if the, I don't know what the role is, but whatever it is, like you know,

[00:36:23] it's clear if it's a monster movie that Kevin Smith has been describing which has been tusk, it's got to be something interesting if he's involved. So I just want to put it up. No, you open, you know, James had it right. He just sometimes,

[00:36:39] yeah, just with Johnny Depp right now, he's just like, oh cool, now he's going to be a Tim Burton movie where he has eye black round his eyes. Yeah, and that I think people are getting the little tired of it

[00:36:49] to a degree, but I mean regardless of what Johnny Depp does, he still has haunted actor. But I think this might be interesting. It might be different, nothing else. Secret window. Like I don't, I don't adore secret window,

[00:37:01] but I think it's an interesting movie and he's good in it. And it's not normal Johnny Depp. But anyway, yeah, I just wanted to bring that up. Totally. I hadn't heard it for two weeks, and I was just like, is nobody can address this really sweet juicy rumor?

[00:37:15] And this is hypocritical since I just talked about casting news. We just don't tend to talk about a lot of casting news. Yeah, because it becomes so, yeah, I mean, you said it, it's a rumor, like, yeah, it's a rumor, we could fill the show talking about,

[00:37:28] but that you're right. It was an interesting one. Yeah, I'm for sure. Cool. What's next, Ryan? I'd say it for real news. Yeah, it's a new release. Unless I've missed something. I don't think so. Thanks for checking. And down to fuck, we've been watching this week.

[00:37:44] So yeah, this is just stuff we've been watching. Brad, you haven't said a word. You're starting at this time. I said a few things. Sorry to disappoint, but I don't think I watched it. I'm gonna say, oh my gosh, what's that? Watch the main draft.

[00:38:00] I mean, a draft week, so I watched Bloodsport and TimeCop and then talk about it. Nice. That was a couple of weeks ago, so I don't know how well I'm going to do at it. How's TimeCop? It's a pretty new. Me, Sarah. Did she dance in that movie?

[00:38:13] No, she's made it. Oh, that's why that movie is awesome. And John Cloud does this, like, this is between two things. It's pretty badass, and that movie, right? Hey, we're going to reach John Cloud, doesn't it? Or is that?

[00:38:24] I must have heard the climax, but they're, like, in a Victorian house and, like, it's raining and they're fighting guys. Haven't seen that movie in a long time. The villain gets pushed into himself and he's hearing it into, like, a red blob. And it's early 90s, CGI. Yeah.

[00:38:38] It totally was not in it. Like, the movie was, it's actually a comic book for one thing. Or based on a comic book. It actually started the comic book with Chris. Yes. It did. That and I expand. It's probably not Batman 1989. Nope. And then, yeah, Bloodsport's better.

[00:38:56] Am I, like, yeah, no, I think Bloodsport's a cool movie. Yeah, it's, it's, it's simple. Like, a bunch of movies. But it's simple, but it's still cool where you know these guys are going under a ground to fight. And yeah.

[00:39:06] And I forgot he had this, like, subplot where he was, like, on the run from the army just to, I don't remember that. Do this tournament. And then the army guys are really trying to catch up with them and just before the final match

[00:39:17] like they do catch up with them and then he escapes and they watch the match while they wait to, like, arrest him. Because why not? Yeah. We're here. We're here as well. After the Mortal Kombat guys saw that movie, they were going to put Jean-Claude Van Dam.

[00:39:32] The Mortal Kombat was really going to star Jean-Claude Van Dam. And if you look at the first Johnny Cage model, he has those shorts and, like, the red scarf going down. So it's basically him and the lot of sport. Yeah. Yeah. That's funny.

[00:39:48] It's basically, yeah, Mortal Kombat without the spine rips and the forearmed weirdo. Yep. No, it really is. That's a true story. I don't know why they deal fell through. Maybe because he started getting really popular pretty cost. You're probably too expensive. That's it for me. Oh man.

[00:40:08] Can you do it? Sorry. That is my, I did watch for Ron Cops and fall asleep but I'll get that next week. You wait for you can move. It was in the morning. It was in the morning. I passed out randomly now. Yeah. It's the drugs. Yeah.

[00:40:24] If you just did fewer drugs, you got at least balance it out with some coke. You got to, you got to low down a little bit on your fucking like method of that means and shit like that when you do that you're fine. Okay? Yeah.

[00:40:39] I've been taking like, just a big bowl of cocaine, meth and heroin. Oh, it's the hair. It makes it up into a certain way. Careful. That killed Chris Farley. And many, many more people. Nobody's working for the weekend anymore. And Philipsy more often. Did you see him?

[00:40:57] Did you see him? And James, was she, John, was she, James, was she, was she. So what we've been watching this week is apparently a bunch of celebrities dying of overdoses. Jim, was she just overrated? No. An asshole. What are you gonna do? David Gosh. James. Fuck you.

[00:41:15] Oh, sorry. Yeah. Was it mean I? Yeah. Just a couple things. I was at a town for a while and thought I was going to watch some things while I was gone, but all I did was work and sleep.

[00:41:27] So I didn't even, I took this huge stack of comics with me. I've slept on the plane too. I was ridiculous. So two quick things. One was I got to watch like two years ago.

[00:41:41] I supported the little Kickstarter for a movie called How to Grow a Band, which was the documentary about how Kristi Lee created a band called The Punch Brothers, which is this sort of, it's a band that I got into because I'm in the Bluegrass music.

[00:41:57] But I didn't realize how tough what they were doing was until I watched this movie. And basically it follows them as they try to create a band where he fuses like a traditional bluegrass, which is what he grew up. Kristi Lee is amazing.

[00:42:09] He's been playing the Manalense since he was five years old and there's probably no, and else on the planet who can play a string instrument as much as well as like I can.

[00:42:18] And he decided after his previous band broke up that he wanted to put together a band where they would sort of fuse classical music with Bluegrass, and he did it by putting together a quintet that then did a 40 minute four movement piece about divorce that's like nonstop.

[00:42:42] And that's the way he decided to create new crazy music. And to me, it's interesting because as they start playing the music and they're in London, and they get boot off the stage when it's over like people are pissed.

[00:42:56] And I'm listening to it and I'm like this shit is gorgeous. Like how does anybody not like this? But it's just really fascinating to watch the way that, because it's about then bringing together these five

[00:43:07] guys who want to build this band and how passionate they end up being about this idea. And even though people don't seem to get it at first, they keep doing it and they keep trying and they sort of push themselves

[00:43:20] to get this new style of music out there. And it's really cool. Even just from like if you're not into the music just watching like the strife that can be caused

[00:43:31] when you are trying to put together a band and grow that band on the road, it's really fascinating. So it's totally worth checking out. It was a Kickstarter like I said, but it's on Hulu plus right now or on Hulu just regular Hulu right now.

[00:43:45] So you can go check it out for free and then I think there's a, I still haven't got my DVD of it. Because they've been really good about updating people, but every update is like, I'm sorry guys, it's not done yet.

[00:43:57] And it's been like, it's been like two years. But still, cool movie, I was more than happy to have supported it. So go check that out. It's called How to Grow Band.

[00:44:06] And then I was hoping I was going to get to check a lot of stuff off my list this week, but I only got one. And it was neither the living dead. Good man. Yeah.

[00:44:16] Now first up before we move on, I believe I made a mistake here because I bought the blue ran Amazon for getting there was a rule about the blue ray. So Ryan, take us again an educate people on what they're supposed to buy. I've never heard this before.

[00:44:31] There is no blue ray official blue ray release of Night of Living Dead. Night of Living Dead when it was released in theaters was in a warehouse and the warehouse burnt down and they only had a couple surviving prints.

[00:44:42] When they ran those prints, they didn't have the copyright at the end. So Night of Living Dead has been in public domain since it's been released. And George A. Romero did not make very much money off of it. He made some money because he never officially released it.

[00:44:57] So make sure you pick up the DVD of the 40th anniversary of Night of Living Dead. Is that the one that Weinstein released? Yes. That version is awesome. Yeah, that's a great version because there's a great documentary about it. And it's a George A. Romero certified one.

[00:45:13] He's on it so he can money off of it. So I'm going to go buy that version too. Especially because the blue ray is garbage because clearly nobody spent any time on it. Oh no, because anybody in their uncle can release the version of this movie. Right.

[00:45:27] And I think it's totally fair. Also being on the zombie in the background of a lot of movies too. Yeah. It was one where I bought it when I do this movie. I don't know if I can get it out of the screen.

[00:45:43] But I'm going to say that. I think it's a very good one. I think it's a very good one. I think it's a very good one. I think it's a very good one. Yeah. It was one where I bought it when I do this.

[00:45:57] I tend to go on Amazon and just go through a string of them. And just buy like five or six blue rays. Yeah, because I just forgot five dollars. Yeah.

[00:46:05] And when it came in the mail and I saw the cover and I was like, this looks shady as shit. Oh fuck. Ryan told me about this. I feel like such a dick. That's what my own moral high horse though. I'm really getting it.

[00:46:14] If it's approved by George A. Romero. Yeah. Anyway, this movie's fucking dope. Yeah. It's, you know, it's old and it's, it suffers a little bit from just being an older movie in the way they get past and things like that.

[00:46:30] And it, you know, it's setting up a lot of the rules that ended up being like the rules of this whole genre. But where I don't want to spoil it, even though it's a classic.

[00:46:43] But if you're like me and you've never actually seen this movie, there's some really tight stuff in this movie. Like it's a, the story that they're telling and the characters you get invested in and what happens to them is really cool.

[00:46:56] And he's digging into some of the psychology here. And I mean, it goes right after, I wasn't even expecting this which is surprising considering that like it sets up the genre. But it goes right after that basic idea that the people who are really dangerous aren't necessarily zombies.

[00:47:15] It's, yeah. It's a really bad as movie that people should check out. Probably one of probably in the top five or six of the ones that I've seen so far as far as movies that I've really enjoyed.

[00:47:29] And even though I'm going to go by the DVD now, it's a DVD that I will probably rewatch a few times because I think it's really cool. Because that DVD has a lot of great bonus features on it has really great documentary and also has interviews with Romero.

[00:47:41] And it has the last interview with the star of it. I can't remember what's going on. Dwayne, some, I can't remember his last name, it's Dwayne something but it's a great little audio only interview with him.

[00:47:56] But you win Jones, Dwayne Jones, it's my favorite horror movie of all time. When I did my list on real nerdspodcast.com of my 100 favorite horror movies, I did a tie between Army of Darkness and Night Living Dead.

[00:48:09] And the reason is, is Army of Darkness isn't technically a horror movie to me. It does have the tropics, but it's sort of a fantasy movie that you've seen.

[00:48:17] But Night Living Dead to me is the epitome of what horror is because not only are you facing ghouls outside, but who's really the bad people? And you know, the ending is so depressing. Yeah. It really does mess with you.

[00:48:36] Some of those moments, just the tension in the room, like when you meet the guys who were in the basement. And you know, especially as an educated modern movie fan, you know what things are wrong. Like you meet those characters and you're like okay,

[00:48:56] that person's been bit and that's going to be a problem. And this is, you know, but it's still really cool just the way that he builds that tension. It's very like, I mean, it's rudimentary in some ways, but very much the thing or something like that, you know.

[00:49:11] Just a super badass movie. Anyway, what have you been watching recently? What have I watched? Well, I kind of stepped a little bit back in time from our January episode, the Jack Ryan episode.

[00:49:25] I had said I've been focusing a lot on the West Memphis 3Ks because for some reason, as those sane people do, because you just fall down that rabbit hole and it's amazing. Yeah. And I ended up watching the movie Devil's Not on VOD.

[00:49:39] Devil's Not is based off of Mara Levitt's novel from 2002. I think it is, and it's a novel about the West Memphis 3Ks, but it's told more like a zodiac kind of story. Yeah, it's more fictionalized, right? It's not fictionalized. It's more specifically, it's traumatized. It's traumatized. Yeah, okay.

[00:50:01] You're more like, yeah. Let me refer to it. Like, I'll refer, I'll just say this. Devil's Not The Book is the same way as the Devil's Not The Movie. It's a very good idea for a lifetime movie, but they don't understand, I feel, is the,

[00:50:15] I think that there's so much more to that story than what was presented on that page. And Adam Yigan is a great director who knows what he's doing most of the time. Like, Chloe and what lies beneath, they're all great movies.

[00:50:30] I think that this one, it was either he was lazy or he made an, a very intentional decision. And I don't know what Chornin is. That's the thing. It's confused me since I've seen it. Is that it seems like it's just an episode of Law and Order,

[00:50:44] but at the same time it may be holding something deeper. The one thing I will say about the movie and give it credit for is that it's very accurate with the details. It follows the case perfectly.

[00:50:55] And it's the only time in the past five or six years where I've actually liked which way there's been a movie. Oh, absolutely. She poured whatever heart and soul she didn't, I feel put into June Carter. She totally put in here. Yeah.

[00:51:10] But you know, it's ultimately just kind of like a B movie that you want to watch. I think that somebody out there's going to make a much better version of the Westman for three story in a fictionalized, dramatized version than what Adam you can did,

[00:51:24] but I think it's a good start. Should they? I think there's, I know there's a good story there, but it's not where Adam you can was telling his story. I think the story actually lies in how this case got attention

[00:51:38] because this case would have been nothing but something being swept under the rug if it wasn't for Joe Burlinger and Bruce Anowski. The two people who really put this case on the map and really gave it exposure.

[00:51:52] If you're going to make a movie about this case at all, make it about those guys because those guys are fucking heroes. Yeah. You make it more of an air in the rug of a kind of a movie rather than like a... Because I'd wanted to do it.

[00:52:04] If you were going to do it, not about the history of the murder, but about the guys who saw there was a problem and did something about it. If you're going to do it, you need to be a three-way combination between Zodiac, Aaron Brockovich and probably seven.

[00:52:20] You'd have to match all those qualities of something like that. It's like in order to get that story out. Because if you go after it like, if you made a movie like Prisoners about that story, that was very...

[00:52:34] If you've been about being insensitive, it just feels like you're... It seems impossible to make that movie not ring false when you're... That's close to something very... The more brutal you are with that content, the more eyebrows you're going to raise.

[00:52:49] But there's a responsible way to tell it. And honestly, the only director who probably could do it, probably Martin Scorsese. I don't know why, but I've looked at his films in the past.

[00:53:00] I looked at the way he handles music and music is a big part of this case, because of how these people were prejudiced and stereotyping. Music plays an important part if anybody could handle that, it'd probably be Scorsese. But so anyway, Devil's not the...

[00:53:17] Obviously the prime example of what we want to do. The only other thing that I watched this week was Captain America, the Winter Soldier, and I proceeded to jiz over that movie as much as he went into the possible.

[00:53:30] I think Kevin Smith said it best on Fatman on Batman this weekend, which was I want 96 movies of Falcon and Captain together in a road, road movie romance comedy, check flick. I don't fucking give a shit. I want everything Falcon and Captain. Yeah. That movie's badass.

[00:53:51] Every time he... It's what I say, every time somebody brings this up. Every time he kicks somebody, it's awesome. It never gets not cool. You know what? And I'm so happy that that movie is as successful as it is, and as good as it is because ever since 2011,

[00:54:05] I took shit for loving Captain America 1. Yeah. First of all, more than Thor, more than Iron Man. Yeah. I love Captain America 1x. I knew we were going to lead. Sure, the fucking enough. Yeah. It happened. So, that's part of what's really cool.

[00:54:21] Great about that movie is that it makes Captain America really feel like a badass. The first movie tells you why you should love Steve Rogers. You know, like it explains to you why Steve Rogers is important.

[00:54:32] And then this is the movie where it's like, yeah, and he's going to kick everyone's ass. Not only is he gonna kick us, but this is the movie that shows us him as a human being

[00:54:39] because the first one perfectly shows Steve Rogers as a soldier and as a hero as a superhero. In many ways, Captain America 1 is a perfect superhero movie because it is just about him being heroic. Yeah.

[00:54:52] And then doing all the like, oh, I get the girl at the end and the man at the end. But it's always focused on like there's a mission I have. And sometimes I think you throw into much emotion and you're superhero movies and it gets convoluted.

[00:55:04] I thought Captain America was a perfect balance of that. This one even better because they did have a little bit of romantic tension but it wasn't going where it's eventually going to go because if you read comic history, you know who's supposed to end up with each other.

[00:55:20] So, you know, I think that it's getting more sophisticated. We were having that dark night talk. I think Captain America 2 is obviously the best comic book movie since the dark night by far. It's interesting.

[00:55:32] I used to say, uh, back when Dark Knight came out, my argument used to be that Dark Knight was the best superhero movie. And the Spider-Man 2 was the best comic book movie, which I think is important,

[00:55:43] especially for the conversation we're going to have later because what I was saying there is that the tropes and the things that comic books really rely on a lot. That sort of fantastic element.

[00:55:57] Spider-Man has to deal with, whereas Dark Knight is very capable of getting away from that and being set in the real world and then being an awesome movie because of it. And Captain America has that too.

[00:56:08] Like Batman never has to like run around and do stuff that seems completely out of reality and but Captain America does, and that movie sells it really well. You see what I'm saying?

[00:56:19] Um, you know, there's a brain in a box in Captain America, there's a brain in a box in Captain America. Batman never has a brain in a box. And that's not neither of them is right.

[00:56:29] It's just that they deal with very different issues when you're talking about writing a story like that. Uh, I mean, ultimately, like it's just, it's the strongest thing I've seen in five years since the dark night. Like it's been what about five, six years.

[00:56:43] Uh, yeah, that's not my take. Oh, it's got to be six. Yeah, it's the strongest thing I've seen in that six years. Yeah, yeah, it's 2006.

[00:56:50] Between the dark night and Captain America too, like even then that gap, like the Avengers was probably the closest for me and now it's just half two.

[00:56:57] Yeah, it just hits on every level possible what I love about comic book movies and what I love about action movies in general. And more importantly, that movie is, that's a 70's movie. I love how people are being maliciously fooled because that movie is just a 70's movie.

[00:57:15] All shot in wide angles. Very pretty much with the exception of the action sequences. It's all the president's men or marathon man or any 70's thriller you watch.

[00:57:26] And what's amazing is that you could sit the same kid who loved Captain America too in front of marathon man and they would hate marathon man, but they'd love Captain too. It always makes me laugh. Yeah. Cool. Ryan, what are you watched? Just a few things.

[00:57:44] I love my screen and factory blue rays. This week I got the fog. It's an old original fog. Yeah, Maggie graces the fog. No. The John Carpenter's the fog. Which Jamie Lee Curtis. Jamie Lee Curtis. It should be John Carpenter's the fog and Maggie graces the fog.

[00:58:00] It's it is an alright movie. It's literally about a fog with ghost pirates. You can go. Yeah, it's what it is. I mean, it's still a fun movie to watch. There's some pretty cool effects in it.

[00:58:17] There's a great interview with Jamie Lee Curtis though and she says, oh my time on the fog. I'm sorry about what she did. And she said, yeah, that movie's not very good. And she says what it's been 30 years. I can say that about that movie.

[00:58:29] So I got to check it out. I catch the check along. And she said, I just want to point out that you know after how the ween I had some rough patches and John gave me this fog and I really appreciate him for that.

[00:58:39] But the movie's not good. So it's kind of cool to hear her say that. Yeah. And she seems like a pretty nice lady when she's talking with everything else. So yeah, I mean the blue ray looks great.

[00:58:48] That's what's really cool about is you get these cheesy 80s movies that get really nice blue rays. No. As should be. Yeah. They should. So it's cool to have people that actually care about the movies that they're produced.

[00:59:02] Especially for that time period because it's hard to transfer some of that. Oh yeah, I mean if you I have from screen factory a blue ray of the video dead. I mean. They take their time and maybe you've never heard of and make a look nice.

[00:59:18] I also rewatched the impossible which is the 2006 tsunami movies, starting Naomi Watts. It's still one of my favorite movies from last year. Performances are really good last year. Well 2012 so it could get put up for Academy Awards, Denver 2013. Just a really solid movie.

[00:59:41] It's kind of depressing but it's still pretty good. Oh yeah. A visual effects are really cool. Oh yeah. There's a very impressive. There's a really cool feature read on it about the visual effects and how they pull it off. They could only do where it destroys the hotel.

[00:59:56] They could only do it in one shot because they didn't have enough money. So they set up I think 15 cameras and they said well here we go. Well see if this works and surprisingly it looks really intense. Yeah.

[01:00:08] And it's cool because they actually built a bunch of little models and they found a way to make the water look dirty. And obviously they shot some with you know Naomi Watts and then they put the minatures in there than a superimposed people in it.

[01:00:22] It looks really good. Yeah. So I really enjoyed that movie. Watching it again. The last thing I watched two more things. I watched one of the dead again. I got the steel books and I should watch it. Yeah. It's still a brilliant movie.

[01:00:38] It's one of those movies I still lack of that. I think that's how many times I've seen it. And you always catch little different things in it even though. Because that's how great of a filmmaker Ed River writers as you see his little nuances throughout it. Yeah.

[01:00:53] He just puts so much emphasis on his work. He really does and it's just picking up. And even the performance is Nick Frost when he's when Sean breaks up with or Liz breaks up with Sean and they're in the bar.

[01:01:07] And he's talking to the stories about the people that come to the bar and the way he sells the stories is just amazing. So yeah, I love that movie. Well, last thing I watched was the seat of Chuck E.

[01:01:20] I've seen all the child plays except for the seat of Chuck E. And which is maybe well it is the worst Chuck E movie. Wasn't there just one reason why? I think the right. Curse of Chuck E's really good. That's right. Yeah.

[01:01:36] Child's play and curse of Chuck E are definitely the best. The Chuck E movie. Yeah. Because what they did is it really scaled back the goofiness of it and really really focused on. I don't know if you making Chuck E scary again. But this movie is just bonkers.

[01:01:54] John Waters plays a paparazzi who's when you say his name we already know what he's about. Jennifer Tillie plays herself in it and it's just really bizarre. She's because Jennifer Tillie is basically playing herself or she doesn't get the part she used to get.

[01:02:11] And a lot of people don't remember that she was nominated for Academy Award at one point. And so red man, the rapper is making a Bible movie.

[01:02:22] And he wants he's looking for his virgin Mary and so Jennifer Tillie's going to try to sleep with him to become the virgin Mary in his movie. And then John Waters is a paparazzi taking their pictures. And of course. Oh, much to pecker.

[01:02:40] And then the bride of Chuck E ended with them giving birth to their little kid and this one starts on. Yeah, Glenn or Glanda is really the name. Did you have you seen it? Yeah, it's a little I love that little mosh that Edward there.

[01:02:57] It's a, I've never taken a Chuck E movie seriously before my life and I haven't either. It's just so bizarre and then the guy who plays Pippin, the Lord of the Rings is the voice. He plays he's Glenn or Glanda? It's really weird. It's really weird.

[01:03:20] First Chuck E movie. I finally saw Chris and Chuck E about like about a month ago and it is amazing. It is compared to what child's played two to bride and Chuck E and see to Chuck E had been.

[01:03:32] What's really, I mean the curse of Chuck E this scene where he puts rat poison in somebody's chili and everyone's eating it is still is a really tense scene and just shot really well. But yeah that's what I've seen Glenn or Glanda. Am I the only one?

[01:03:49] Yeah, I've seen it. Oh man. I've seen every Edward movie. It's worse than play nine. That's what's interesting. That's what's crazy about people playing. You know what's worse than both of them? Bride of the monster.

[01:04:00] Yeah, it's interesting that people say plan nine is the worst movie of all time because it's the best movie he ever made. The room is the worst movie ever made. I know Brad's a fateful finding. Yeah, it's a fateful finding. Fateful finding's even worse.

[01:04:15] It's in there with the room. It's pretty close. I can't tell if they're honestly bad filmmakers or they're trying to capture the room by making a shitty copy of it. Every is funny is that he's not as quotable as Tommy. No, yeah. He's not as quotable as Tommy.

[01:04:33] Whoever this guy is. But the term is just like how bad the acting is. It's not so much the lines. Yeah, the bad edits and the bad acting. What are you going to do? So yeah, that's why I'll probably never watch a see to chuck you again.

[01:04:47] And that's sort of some sort of commentary on it. I might want to hear what they have to say about making movies. What do you have to say? We were high.

[01:04:55] One of the funny thing is the Don Man Sine is wrote the first one and he's made every Chuck E. movie since. Yeah, so it stayed with the same guy. He thinks it's interesting. Maybe.

[01:05:07] Well, that's why he made Curse a Chuck E because I think he wasn't happy with it to see the Chuck E either. No, don't think anybody was. I don't think Brad Sheriff was happy with see to Chuck E. See how that works. Cool.

[01:05:22] That's always a good one for me this week. I can, but it's Spider-Man week. I just assumed. I did Spider-Man last week. I haven't read the amazing Spider-Man yet. Okay. I mean, I can tell people the read amazing Spider-Man 21 but I hope they write that out.

[01:05:35] I can give you guys a comment book if. Cool. You can do one. Sure. Yeah. Well, before you do real quick. Technically, this will go up. Technically, this will go up before. That'll last week. But even though we're late, go support your your local comic book sore.

[01:05:54] Hell yeah. If you've never been to a comic book sore or find one near you, they may still have some books just walk in by a couple things. They've got a, they've got a Guardians of the Galaxy and a Rocket Reccoon book this year,

[01:06:05] which might help you prepare for some movies later in the summer. So good. Check that shit out. I thought of you when I saw the gardens of the galaxy in 3D. Yeah. I still haven't seen that trailer in theaters yet. No. And it pisses me off. Yeah.

[01:06:19] Well, for sure, it will see at this time. You didn't see it with Captain America too. No, because it's one of the things it's supposed to launch with Captain America, right?

[01:06:27] But it's just sort of traditionally true that a lot of times the theater won't necessarily get the trailer or show get enough copies of the trailer to show it in front of the trailer. So it's really common in the album. It only shows two trailers before there.

[01:06:39] That too. Yeah. So. Right. Because I'm sure they're going to show Guardians of the Galaxy. But they also, I think the Alan Lewis has a show movies that are more recent. Right.

[01:06:49] So I think they don't necessarily like showing a movie or a trailer for a movie at the end of the summer because it opens its, you know, they want to sell you a ticket to each from now. No. Yeah.

[01:06:59] I mean, I've seen the trailer a couple times in theaters. It looks amazing. It's going to be the, it's going to be an amazing, more will movie. It's going to be the Scott Hillgram of the Marvel Universe. That's a good way to put it. Yeah.

[01:07:11] Because it's, it's James gun. Like, I, it's, it's the same thing with Edgar Wright. I thought that Scott Pilgrim was going to be this big huge explosion. And no. It is that movie is fucking dopey shit. Yeah, but it was done.

[01:07:22] But like, yeah, but look, look what one at the box office that week. Yeah. But I'm just saying it's going to be the same result. But ultimately Guardians of the Galaxy is going to get a lot of love in the long run. Yeah. I agree.

[01:07:34] I think the live people aren't going to go see that movie because he's got a talking right who in it and they will miss out because I think that movie's going to be fucking amazing. I'm just going to try it or not.

[01:07:40] But nobody's making fun of that either. What's your book? We shop nerds, it's the comic corner. Well, my book is Marvel's. Is anybody remember Marvel's? I love Marvel's. I think it's one of the most beautifully drawn things I've ever seen in my life.

[01:07:56] And I remember reading it when I was in middle school and I picked it up again this week. Just really kind of looking for something to read because I had the man without fear run. And I'm kind of leafing through that right now.

[01:08:07] So I just went through Marvel's. It's a quick read. Has anybody doesn't know who what Marvel's is? It's basically all the Marvel heroes in their origins based off of when they were created, told to the eyes of this photographer. It's a very, I think it's a poetic story.

[01:08:25] I think if anybody wants to make an indie artsy, fartsy, Marvel movie out there, that would be it. It would be to make Marvel's. Yeah. That's the most indie that's the 500 days of summer of the Marvel Universe. If Mark Webb were going to make it all shoot. If.

[01:08:42] Sorry. No, but if like if Jim's are moved, the guy who did only, only lovers left alive, then the new vampire movie they came out. If he were to do something like Marvel's, it would be amazing. Our work is brilliant. Alex Ross.

[01:08:57] I believe is the main artist behind it. There's incredible artwork with the human torch that I really like. And I truly identified it because there was almost like a science exhibit and they just have him kind of like being, you know, It's just him study upon.

[01:09:11] It's like the elephant man in the movie and the elephant man when they were revealing everything with him. You know, so I would totally recommend and pick up that book. And I also read the Archie Zombie book. Yeah. That's a good one. Yeah.

[01:09:28] I have no real comment because I'm not finished with the yet, but I really like, I really like what they've done with it. But the fourth one really got me. Yeah. I heard you review on the last one that you'd read and that's.

[01:09:40] That was actually really depressing because I read that one yet up to that point when I finally read it. I got what you were saying about it. It's incredible. I need to read the death of Archie now. I guess I'm suddenly back in Archie.

[01:09:55] But just the weird versions of Archie. Yeah, just the weird fucked up Archie. Yeah. Marvel's is when I all Alex Ross, I think it is peak. I mean, that sounds silly to say because as almost 20 years ago, but now I.

[01:10:07] I don't know his art doesn't catch me as much. He just does do interiors anymore and you know, in Marvel's he had to do interiors and do layouts. And I think it challenged him. I don't know if he's really challenged anymore.

[01:10:22] Yeah, as covers now to me like I see him and they feel his covers for the new batting 66 are supposed to look pretty good. I haven't seen him yet. Yeah, you know, am I issue with him always his batman's that superman's always looked like Chubby.

[01:10:36] They seem like he tries to make them two real. They try to make him. And that sounds silly to say about a superhero. But yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Cool. And now it's the moment all fans have been waiting for the end of this show. See you later.

[01:10:56] This week, the real nerds went and saw the amazing spider man too. James should people go see the amazing spider man too. Yeah. I really enjoyed this.

[01:11:07] And people are going to say what all they want to say about too many villains or, you know, being hackneyed at times or whatever. I don't feel it because at the end of the day, they're really good characters and a really good story.

[01:11:19] That I think is really worth telling. And that's going to drive through everything else. Yeah, people need to go see this movie. The Brad should people go see the amazing spider man too. I've been dreading this all week because I saw them one day as well. Oh yeah.

[01:11:39] And then it's not even to be a dick, but I thought of his doll. That was boring in week. You know, I'll explain why in a minute. Cool. So actually people go see the amazing spider man too. Finally, the team doesn't turn.

[01:11:55] Oh, um, I really really wanted to like this movie. I really, really did. I do not discourage people from seeing any comic book movie at all period in a theater. But spider man too is the amazing spider man too.

[01:12:14] I mean, if you're a kid or if you're a teenager, you're going to probably love the shit out of this movie. I don't know why I didn't like it. Everything in that movie is set up for me to like it.

[01:12:27] And yet there's something about it that I just did not get. And we'll go into it because most of this movie is spoiler filled. That is one thing. You cannot really describe what goes on in this movie without giving away big plot details.

[01:12:41] And I will say, though, on the other hand of me not liking it. Everybody in the movie is fantastic. The actor is solid in it. Emma Stone, Andrew Garfield, they all give a solid performances. Jamie Foxx gives a good performance as a electro.

[01:12:57] Paul Giamati stole my heart as my favorite comic book villain movie of all time. Any, any comic book villain I've seen in the movie, he was my favorite because he's the only one who's ever said, hey Emma, criminal! I had to give him props for that.

[01:13:14] And I think Dane DeHan, I think this video pronounced as name is Young Willem Defoe. It's fucking scary. So definitely approach with caution is what I would say. Approach with caution. If you're a fan of Spider-Man, you're going to love it.

[01:13:32] Yeah, this is a tough one for me to review because my heart's so much into Spider-Man. I love the movie. Being such a Spider-Man fan, I think it hit all the right moments and I'm not surprised that it's divisive, that a lot of people can't get into it.

[01:13:52] Because actually, I will disagree on one point with the Uses Act. I think kids will have a harder time with this movie because there's about an hour where Spider-Man is not in the movie. Yeah, we'll get into that later. There's my favorite hour of the movie.

[01:14:08] Here's a shut up. Here's the trailer for the amazing Spider-Man, too. Bob being Spider-Man? Everything. Here's a park. There he is. Boy, it's been 10 years. What have you been up to? I drew some web design. There's a horror book. It's just a wrist, just on the wrist buddy.

[01:14:52] Here. You're going to want to see us. Ask for. Get you under surveillance. Why is nothing the question of the day? Nothing is what I thought it was. I want to talk to them. Secrets have cost. The truth does too.

[01:15:08] My name is Richard Parker, but I have discovered one Oscar postman to use my research for. What is all this? The future. We have plans for you, Peter Parker. You wanted to be the hero. You need a hand? Now you gotta pay the price.

[01:15:30] We can change the world. Now it's called cut to spider. I made a choice. This is my path. This is bigger than you can. I'm the only one who can stop them. I'm Spider-Man. I got to go. I'm coming with you. I'm just too dangerous.

[01:16:31] Sorry, I love you. Don't hang me. Peter! That was amazing. Yeah, I mean the trailer pretty much says what's happening is Spider-Man is a little older. Maybe not wiser. He's made the mistake of... You're one chin here.

[01:17:00] Still seeing Gwen Stacy, which was very foreboding in the last shot of the amazing Spider-Man. It was one of my favorite shots ever in a superhero movie. And then that they just continued it.

[01:17:16] It's just him going through being the fun hero, but also making mistakes along the way. So the reason why I love the amazing Spider-Man. The reason why it's because I like this Peter Parker more. And in that movie, the chemistry between Peter and Gwen is so good.

[01:17:43] And it's so much fun just to be around those characters at all times. And this is no exception in fact that ramps it up. So like the tension between them and what they're doing, is so engrossing to me.

[01:17:57] And for me, build Peter Parker as a character so well in this movie that I really didn't do a shit about Spider-Man. Honestly, all I cared about was the fact that at this point in his life, all of his support structure, she's everything.

[01:18:15] And he doesn't realize how much he's leaning on it may. But like he feels like he's lost everyone he relies on in his life. And he can't lose her too. And of course, the whole time you're like, dude, it's coming.

[01:18:30] Like you're making these choices and you're going to pay the consequences for them. And watching him grow through that, like that story is why I'm there. Electres cool. And Green Goblin's whatever it's probably shoved into much and whatever. I don't care.

[01:18:47] The action scenes with Electro are fucking amazing and you can't get that anywhere else. But I care about Peter and I care about what he's going through. And there aren't that many super hero movies that can save that.

[01:19:00] And here's it because we're going to start spoiling this movie. So I'm going to play up on that. Here's a cool scene of Peter and Gwen, a establishing ground rules when they've broken up. And so there's establishing ground rules for them seeing each other. I'm in trouble.

[01:19:16] Who's there now? He was the next thing that you know, because I have to come to you then. That's how it's coming back. This is the maintenance closet. This is the most cliché hiding place you could have chosen. This is the stupidest hiding place.

[01:19:30] Take us to the Bahamas of hiding places. You're just kissed. All right. How'd you like it? It's all the little bit right. I love it. This is the plan to get the elevator on my other try. Oh, my God.

[01:19:50] So I just built a whole lot of things all over your mind. And you too. I'm just saying right there. Hey. All right. I'm sorry. I'm all thumbs today. It's just a really like the Gwen. Listen to me. Gwen. Fuck you.

[01:20:20] That's the most romantic scene I've seen in years. Oh my God. Look man. Nobody loves. The relationship between Peter and Gwen more than I do, I guess. I disagree. I do. I do. I like this immigration too. And I'll tell you being a huge Spider-Man fan.

[01:20:38] You know, I was I was talked to my wife about this. There's. I do like the Toby McGuire spider man. And here's a difference. Toby was a Squire Spider-Man place a Spider-Man who's guilty of who he is. He's the guy that on the Reese Michael Bands dead.

[01:20:53] The reason I put Mary Jane and danger on the reason my friends turned against me. The Andrew Garfield Spider-Man has those same issues, but to me he is the Spider-Man I want to see. He's a Spider-Man.

[01:21:05] And this is my problem with the superior Spider-Man is you if you lose the fun of who Spider-Man is, then it's not Spider-Man to me. Yeah. It's too dramatic.

[01:21:15] He not only enjoys what he's doing, but he also is that he's that symbol of hope in a lot of ways. And he even real it's part of why this movie is good. He has to realize that he's that symbol of hope for him.

[01:21:27] So I couldn't agree more and being a huge Spider-Man fan, you see the because I know where the story is going to go. Right. I do. I honestly knew what was going to happen in this story. I knew she was going to die. Spoilers.

[01:21:42] I knew when you said it plenty of things. I knew when Stacy was dying. But here's the thing. To play with. I've read that book so many times and it makes me cry. It does because to me those characters mean so much to me. Yeah.

[01:21:56] And I'll be honest too when I saw that movie yesterday. I could not like tears were coming down my eyes because the way they played it is, you know. I don't actually, I don't feel the Green Goblins tacked on. I really don't. I don't feel most.

[01:22:13] I don't feel it either. I don't. Because I think it feels natural. I think it's a natural progression for the and I don't think a lot of people understand the character of Harry Osborn.

[01:22:21] Because I think that movie actually Nell to Harry Osborn is he's this spoiled brat who doesn't get his way. And when he doesn't get his way, he lashes out in a immature way. And he doesn't understand what he's doing. And you know, the transfer. The transition. The transfer.

[01:22:42] Combination to the goblin is. To me, because I think Harry Osborn is the most tragic character in Spider Man is he's always the good guy and he always wants to do well but he, He has this in fear.

[01:22:56] You know what am I trying to say he has a calm thank you. That he's never going to live up to his father is and he's never going to be as good as Pete. I agree with you in the comics.

[01:23:08] because I think, I feel like we've been trained to go into comic movies for the villains in a lot of ways. And if you go into this movie for that, you're gonna feel like what

[01:23:20] you're just saying, that's not really in this movie. Like it is, but it's Kurt. It's not not Kurt Conner's. I mean, like it's short. It's brief. They sort of get through all of that stuff because those villains are the impetus for the things that are happening in Peter's

[01:23:36] life. I agree because this is really a movie about Peter. Yeah. And it's the choices he makes. And it's, it's really fascinating to me because I know how Gwen Stacy dies in the comics and

[01:23:50] how they set it up in this movie, it still breaks my heart because you know, they keep on teasing you, they're teasing you, they're teasing you. And he, he reaches out for her. And just how you make

[01:24:04] this movie, too, is you know, he catches her and she still hits the ground. And there's that like thud. Yeah. And I've seen this movie back back days in both times, people have like,

[01:24:14] they can't believe that he missed her. And then they made such an amazing choice, no pun intended, that after she hits the music stops, everything stops. It's quiet. And they let the

[01:24:28] gravity of what just happened really sink in that she said it was her choice to be there. And it's, I think it's rough because that scene as it was going like, yeah, I knew what was going

[01:24:39] to happen. But as it was going, I was like, you know, having a moment doesn't matter how you shoot it or what you do. Having a moment where somebody dies and somebody else like basically rushes

[01:24:52] to them and picks them up and wishes they weren't dead in cries. It's just a rough, it's a tough scene to put in the movie. Like it's just, you gotta really nail it. And I think I don't think

[01:25:03] it took us on my heartstrings as much as it could but that thud, that thud is haunting. I just, it just partially because like that carrot, she is such, this is going to sound weird. But

[01:25:17] she is such a living part of the movie. Like she is so present and alive and active that when it happens and she goes limp, like it, I don't know, it's disturbing in some ways.

[01:25:29] And two, what's cool about how the movie is written is Peter's one who made the choice to stay with Gwen. He's going to go to England with her. She didn't drop everything to be with him and

[01:25:42] which I think is a really cool. But there's also plenty of stuff in there. Like they go back and forth. They give you, they give him plenty of stuff to forgive him for them, to forgive himself for it.

[01:25:53] Because, and it's one of the things I really love about it is that it's not this like it's not this super like a misogynistic well. This is his choice one way or another. Like no,

[01:26:02] she's like, mother fucker, I said yes, I am here for a reason. And I put myself in this situation and as cool as that is, she still plays the consequence for it and he does too. It might be

[01:26:17] unavoidable, but I don't know. It's just, I think they did a really good job with that part. I didn't, I didn't, here's my problem is that that that moment should have made me cry because I had never really seen anything that impactful in this fireman moving before.

[01:26:33] But you knew it was coming right? That's kind of the problem. Yep. I knew it was coming. But that's probably my problem with a lot of the movies. I knew a lot

[01:26:43] of the movies coming. And I mean, when I, when watching it the second time, I was not, I was a lot more impressed the second time around than I was the first time. The second time

[01:26:54] around, I started realizing a lot more of the nuances obviously towards the comic book, but also just towards making a better story. But I still don't feel like it's, I feel like that moment

[01:27:05] of Gwen Stacy's death is not, it's not as strong for me because it's, how do I describe it? It's just, it feels, it doesn't feel like there's something. It felt too, because it feels difficult to reveal, I've never had to give on Real Nerd period.

[01:27:27] Because it is because I'll tell you for me the reason that it didn't make me cry is because it was hitting beats I knew were coming. And even though it was,

[01:27:35] it's a thing, but it is impossible for me to hold it against that. That's like saying that like, you know, the like, chinler's list is not as good because I knew that all the Jews were

[01:27:45] and that's a very extreme way to go. But they had to tell that story and it's got to be heart-wrenching in some ways, but I don't disagree with you. It's just like,

[01:27:57] and I can never fault the movie just on that moment alone. Like I have other problems with the movie just in terms of time. I thought the movie was way too long. Number one, I thought that

[01:28:05] there could have at least been 20 minutes cut out of that movie. Just, you would cut out 20 minutes of the party like. Yeah, I probably. I'm not going to lie. I really love that 15 minutes it's Spider-Man's in the movie. To me, it's just because I know that it's coming,

[01:28:25] I think I'm not as enthused about it. Part of that is that like, I think that something about the Batman movies or even the X-Men movies is that they are taking from certain stories from the past, but they're not doing them directly or directly influenced,

[01:28:42] per se. Yeah. But this one felt like it was so hellbent on doing the Death of Gwen Stacy that it would do anything to get there. That's what it felt like to know. Okay. Now now I could be completely

[01:28:55] wrong and I could be seeing it the wrong way, but that's just how it felt to me is that it was so desperate to hit that note that it would do anything to get there. And the only other thing

[01:29:04] that I really did not like about the movie was the one thing that I was looking forward to about this movie. I really wanted Shannon, Shannon, Shannon, and Shannon would like to play Mary Jane.

[01:29:17] Yeah, she cut it. I thought that her moment in the movie was going to be her at the end of the movie going face to tiger you hit the jackpot and then that's when the movie would end. I thought

[01:29:26] if they did that. I wouldn't have walked out so fucking pissed. I didn't like that shit. It could do so fucking bold. Yeah, because I did get the one woman dies. You just replace that with a different one. See? No. I disagree totally because-

[01:29:42] I'm not saying it's perfect. Well, I thought that's what's going to happen. I'm like, what? Dude, I'm totally on board for that bold ass. The Death of Gwen Stacy brought tears to my eyes,

[01:29:52] but I'll be completely honest with you. Something may be cry more in that movie and at the end Peter is dealing with the death of Gwen Stacy obviously and then he has a scene with Aunt

[01:30:04] May where Aunt May is hinting that she knows he's Spider-Man. Hell yeah, and he goes in his room and he realizes that the world needs Spider-Man but that's not what made me cry. Hell yeah.

[01:30:15] It's he's going and the rhino shows up so many. And the little boy comes out there. Like, Tiananmen swear he puts on the Spider-Man man. He stands up to the tank and how he stands. And to me, like I said earlier in the show,

[01:30:33] to me that two Spider-Man is it doesn't matter. And he moves his under the mask. It's what does he do outs? It's on the inside and anybody can stand up to anybody. And to me,

[01:30:46] like tears were like coming down my eyes because that to me epitomizes who Spider-Man is. And if you had Mary Jane show up at the face of talking to the jackpot, I might have hated this movie.

[01:30:55] Really? Here's the thing. Here's the thing. The other reason it's the wrong ending is that this is a movie where he has to go from a place where he is living for

[01:31:07] where he's giving everything he can to the people around him and then realize like what he has to realize what Spider-Man is to him. Exactly. So like he has to lose that support structure

[01:31:18] and then gain it back. And it is in realizing what I may as through that in that last scene, which is amazing. Man, she fucking Sally Field. I really like her. I don't know if she's heard,

[01:31:30] but I really like her. She is great and that scene followed by what you're talking about where he sort of nuts up and is like oh yeah, no this shit's pretty important.

[01:31:41] And she's great. And I don't think you can like look ultimately the way the movie is going to is the way the movie is going to end. And my opinion has changed a little bit since

[01:31:51] seeing that the second time, I'm still not the biggest fan of it but I mean, you know, props to Mark Webb for making a Spider-Man movie that was at least interesting for my taste. Like this was the most interesting Spider-Man movie I've ever seen because

[01:32:06] it actually hit because it was hitting those dramatic beats I knew I was going to hit. I felt more invested, especially with Dane to Hand playing Harry Osborne. You I totally agree with you. That is the best Harry Osborne I've ever seen period.

[01:32:22] It's perfect. And it's seen the way he directs like that sort of improv. Like that scene when when Harry, yeah, the stairs. Yeah, which A is just really, I like the way it shots so long. But like that very brotherly relationship they have, it's really natural.

[01:32:39] Yeah, and I'm going back and forth on it. Like you're bringing up points why I should love this movie that I'm just I'm still not sold. It's tough and I know it's a third time.

[01:32:49] Yeah, I have to go a third time guys. I know we were coming from because there are times when I've had that before where like you kind of know what a movie is going to do either

[01:32:56] because the trailers have told you everything or because you know the story of front. I'm just really angry with that. It can be tough for that movie to hit you the way you want it to.

[01:33:03] I'm just really angry that Ryan's made me feel emotions for the first time in my life. Brad, you haven't said anything. What are your biggest issues with it? It's fine. We've finally done segments with Eastcock. Let me say something.

[01:33:14] Oh, it's so you can jump to the end of the day time. I'm like interrupting people and discussions. It started out great. Like it started out with the opening that we've always talked about.

[01:33:24] Yeah, I was talking more about that. But yeah, after that, like apparently New York has the most in-depth police force because they all put all their squad cars facing one direction like

[01:33:38] chasing the villain and then at the very end, the police are trying to shoot down the Rhino with handguns and he has a 50-dollar machine gun. What are they supposed to do? Tell people to clear

[01:33:49] the streets and stop hanging around. What are they going to get shot? Yeah. But then we wouldn't have that kid coming out to stop like the end of the square. Which no, no, the cops tried to stop

[01:34:00] the mom but they wouldn't stop the kid. The kid ran faster than the smoke. The Rhino shot like six rounds over that kid's head. Yeah. And then it's about the point. So it doesn't fucking

[01:34:12] either. Like and then stopped to give him a spatterman a chance to bond. Yeah. The Rhino's just like, yeah, I got to do it. Just full-partness movie. Obviously the Gwen Stacy moment is like the way they pull it off like visually is like just heartbreaking.

[01:34:29] Oh yeah. Like because you know in the count, you're telling me that the camera's like she swings over the bridge, snaps her neck but in this thing like he snaps her head and then the

[01:34:39] count. Yeah. Oh god. And then you see like the blood coming out of her nose like she's not white dead when he gets to her but she's like unconscious and she's dying in his arms. Like she's not instantly dead.

[01:34:50] That was bleeding internally. She's bleeding internally. That is such a brutal death for a PG-13 movie. Um but yeah like the it just feels like the rest of the movie's just filler because like

[01:35:01] the home movie is to get to that moment. Like the home movie is make you love Peter and Gwen so much to get to that iconic moment. And meanwhile there's Electro which is a complete

[01:35:13] waste of a villain. Like his home motivation is like, man, it's Spider-Man. Do you remember me? No, nobody over there. I don't disagree. Yeah. Yeah. He feels very cartoon show. Yeah. He's the one that feels tacked on. Yeah, out of everybody especially. Even though

[01:35:32] Paul Giambody is more effective as a villain. Paul Giambody I give a password because he's a book end to the movie. Oh my god. I love that fucking thing. But Electro is made to be like a like the major

[01:35:43] prime villain with Harry Osborne coming in from behind. He's an electro. Like he Electro has cool sequences. Yeah. But his home motivation and like it's so weak. It's so weak. It's so weak. He didn't match up with anybody else's in there. That's what made it unevenly.

[01:36:03] You could take him out of the movie and the movie would still. Yeah, I would argue you could take a strong max out of the movie and just have like just show the dude you know this dude who

[01:36:11] like, oh he fumbles into this thing and gets turned into whatever and and still have the action sequences because that's he's there for two reasons. He's there for the action sequences and then

[01:36:20] he becomes like this foot soldier for Harry at the end. Which I feel like he has lightning bolts on as I might want. That's a one. He's a one. He's a corny attitude man. No, he made his own birthday

[01:36:33] because the one thing I did not like about the movie is he had lightning bolts on the side of his costume. At least he didn't have lightning bolts on the side of his face. But I would have been even better.

[01:36:42] I will say this visually he's an amazing character. Yeah, so just a pointy is like how the story for him is just so terribly weak. Yeah, if they given more scenes of him like

[01:36:55] if they wanted to go the route of like he has this ego problem or this uh what is it like self I think it's an exception. So insecure. Yeah, if they had more because the only as that one

[01:37:06] seemed like the cake. Yeah. And then or I guess when he meets fireman whatever you kind of see how insecure he is. So if they'd done more stuff throughout the movie building to that but no,

[01:37:16] it's kind of like just a real quick thing and then he goes to time square and all the people that focus on Peter and one though. That's the problem with the balance there. It's a balance movie but it's not balanced. And all the spider-man villains like have this

[01:37:33] inability to reason really fast. Like they get really emotional really quick and don't jump back. Um, it's like really frustrating because like Spider-Man goes to Harry and he's like hey you know

[01:37:46] I don't want to do this for you because it might hurt you and instantly they can't see the other side of it. They're just always one sided and that's kind of frustrating. Like that's you think someone

[01:37:55] is smart as Harry would be able to like yeah I know this hurt me but like it's really important me to survive. Well he did say that to him though. Uh he said uh what's the difference I'm already dying?

[01:38:06] So he's desperate to find a curie. He doesn't care if he dies or not and that's why Harry I was wanting me as such a tragic character because I don't Harry I was wondering is not

[01:38:15] in his mind he's not a bad guy but he makes choices that affect who he is and I mean he said he's like I don't care I'm already dying. Why doesn't matter if you kill me and then the spider-man

[01:38:25] rejected him and it sets him off. Yeah but as someone who's like supposed to be this lifelong friend I thought it would be more sympathetic towards like oh yeah like

[01:38:34] even when he doesn't know that Peter Parker is spider-man yet. To his friend Peter Parker is like okay I understand that I'm accepting that you can't just call of spider-man whenever you want but I mean

[01:38:45] could you really I really need your help with this you know but he gets really mad really bad. Give me that blood! So it's just frustrating to watch. I just feel like it's racing through it

[01:38:56] and obviously because it's like a two-hour movie and they have too much to do. So yeah but Peter and like Peter and Gwen are cut together but I think there's too much of that

[01:39:07] in the movie. Oh my god. It feels like there's a longer movie that might be even better movie than what we saw like it feels like there's like a good three. It feels like it's a good thirty I'm sorry a good three-hour

[01:39:19] movie there are three hour and thirty minute movie there that we didn't say. No I just I think his name needs to be more focused like if you want to do like obviously Peter and Gwen is real

[01:39:28] much important because you want to build to the effect of the death of Gwen like you want to people who feel like he really lost someone important to him. Right which also I don't really feel

[01:39:37] like they had like a strong cause like it's a lot of these moments of like they're just kind of standing around or going on a date and talking. I'm oh my god actually what I will disagree with

[01:39:49] you this the moment where they're on the top of the bridge and he's just talking about how he's not getting inspired anymore. You're talking about moments that made you well up I'm not

[01:39:59] gonna lie that made me well up a little bit. As a comic book fan in general just seeing like the the hero with the dream girl up there on that little like that's a that's a good swelling image

[01:40:09] like that's only dug that you know. Then they're going on a date and talking is this movie like dialogue is what characters do to each other and when they hold on when when they first are

[01:40:22] setting ground rules and she laughs and he says well that's the first thing that's got to go honestly that seems so well written and so well acted you could probably only have that scene

[01:40:33] and the movie would work. Like them going on dates and talking is why I love this movie and why it's important and why it matters that she dies like and it's why I don't give a shit about spider

[01:40:49] man in this movie because it's really good. I feel like they're released there are released a few we tested more like in the other Spider-Man movies Mary Jane I think the second one she was like an actress and like being Spider-Man kept taking him away from like her

[01:41:08] performances and stuff and this movie like she's just going to talk spurred and he's like not because he's Spider-Man he's just like not I don't know no that's that's but those in those

[01:41:19] movies it's so much shallower than here because here their relationship when they are in a relationship is dangerous for her well being like if they're together she is in danger and that like that

[01:41:32] is so much bigger than oh I can't make it to the play on time or I'm always an empty seat like those scenes in those movies are really adorable and touching but the reason why those movies

[01:41:43] have for a lion of villain is because they can't rely on that because being an empty seat and like not being there for her play is really shallow by comparison to if I love you you die no that's like

[01:41:54] name of all the movies like people ladies like if he's around people he loves like they're always in danger but but there's a never gonna die here they die like that that's the thing this

[01:42:03] stakes here really high by comparison because in those movies we know they're not that's what that's all I'm saying yeah my favorite part of this podcast is James is fighting my fight for me

[01:42:19] because but you know the one thing we haven't touched on and I was terrified of this movie going in which really cool is the visual effects this movie are amazing I'm actually not gonna lie

[01:42:30] these there's a couple there's a couple those are the things the CG Spider-Man in the the the van or whatever clicking the things like oh yeah in our van you're right yeah that

[01:42:42] week Paul Jemadi at the end is a little bit yeah well Jemadi yeah but I mean due the electoral looks good and the scenes were spider-man's like web swinging I have they look good

[01:42:52] I mean I saw 3D iMacs and it literally felt like you were dropping from the building and uh there's also his spider sense in here is so freaking cool yeah when he's you know

[01:43:05] an electoral shoots that uh car that police car at the people running up there and it stands up and he's like thinking in slow motion on how he's gonna save him yeah that was that was a

[01:43:14] cool as a spider-man fan it's what I love and I love that they don't make it like really cheesy you know the thing that interrupts his date with Gwen Stacy is all of a sudden

[01:43:24] he's tiny he realizes that something's not right to me yeah that's a spider sense and and I feel like it's the thing that they've never been able to do with the spider-man's like there's

[01:43:33] something I don't I don't even know what it is it's I don't think it's the sound it's got to be something in the way moves the camera yeah something like that yeah I don't know or maybe it's just

[01:43:42] a way of being a desert off right yeah yeah yeah I mean yeah there's some just fine but not it just hard in the special effects yeah but there's but at the part where he's swinging through the city

[01:43:52] and he's like contorting his body and using his webbing his slingshots is yeah there's some little hiccups here and there but I mean I've never seen something look like that and I don't even

[01:44:03] see hiccups in the visual effects at all the visual effects were were amazing in this movie that was that was the amazing thing about the amazing spider-man to make those the visual effects

[01:44:13] those were incredible that looked like a comic book that looked amazing that final scene at the power grid or the abandoned power company the abandoned electric company looked incredible it's I mean it's if that incredible whole thing for me where when everything CG at all looks

[01:44:28] not real but but but but it's still really good but it works for spider-man or Hulk because they are look for all intents and purposes none of us can flex or bend like a spider guy so I don't just agree

[01:44:40] but in the same way that it doesn't work for incredible Hulk where is that oh well I have a cool is the action scene with electro is I don't feel the stakes that well because it all looks

[01:44:51] you know it all looks um thank as for one like tiny detail that I did like was electros theme it was the thing I wanted to end on at the end because like Boris he has like oh my god no it's

[01:45:04] so good I give the songs like when Peter's like thinking no no the score is good oh yeah yeah which yeah Hans Zimmer didn't do the last one right no yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

[01:45:19] there's somebody else on this one too yeah the magnifces and six no it's not all for all really good it's just a sex yeah that would make sense though because that's part of what's really cool

[01:45:30] about it is the way it doesn't sound like any other superhero movie no well and the way that he like turns music into turns electro in a music it's just cool like you know it's one of the

[01:45:41] things that Mark White is really good at um because I you know he came out of music videos and stuff like that and I don't know I think he's good at music and movies even even the like pop music

[01:45:50] he works in like I like some of that stuff so I'm cool with it but the way that he yeah like man when when electro is bouncing around at the different things and it's actually making a song

[01:46:01] and it first you like oh that's cool is that really the score and in spider-man's like comments on the fact that it's making a song you're like oh snap like that's like happening it's

[01:46:11] I don't know I just thought it was cool yeah I totally agree that's the only thing you like about the movie was a music touch like the opening the uh just the one thing I will like about

[01:46:22] the movie I'm just yeah that's fine you know I next one needs to have shocker at the beginning that'd be sweet I'll find something negative dad to it uh let's his uh I guess another like

[01:46:33] thing is thrown on there but it's not a thing thrown there because it's an extension of the last movie is him like figuring out like what is dad's role that's you know that's the one scene I think

[01:46:43] that because they didn't put it in the first one they felt like they had to make up for yeah um yeah but I did like the opening of like his parents on the plane and stuff I thought was really

[01:46:53] Parker's a badass yeah but yeah he has a subway car like that seems very exposition now that is not canon um my from my knowledge I don't remember it's canon his parents were set up

[01:47:08] as well it was in the 60s and they were set up as a size of subway train no no that's right now Roosevelt is either real or real urban legend like like that train right but I was like that's

[01:47:21] but they did the subway train I'm like this oh if they did that's not possible then the red skull set up the parkers and that would have been awesome yeah the red skull shows you yeah yeah

[01:47:30] we could come and I already done fucker yeah goodbye mr. Busser and then your favorite comic book movie and then my favorite comic book movie could combine and then he cast and then captures up with the Falcon hey guys what's up let's go catch a spider guy

[01:47:47] just a shield so does Harry like adjust to being the green goblin that's why it looks okay at the end no what they're doing I mean they're changing a little bit but in the comics Harry

[01:48:00] always struggled with being the bad guy he never wanted to be the bad guy he always wanted he's always his friendship with Peter always would trump is being a bad guy no I mean visually like

[01:48:12] yeah they're going with a with a mutated goblin version where like he can control how he looks not as a control that's more like ultimate spider man thing I in the ultimate spider man it's

[01:48:24] basically same thing it would shoot himself with a Oz formula he would turn into the goblin so and this one I guess the spider venom is kind of the Oz formula for him so the spider

[01:48:35] man the spider venom just wears off eventually yeah okay and who's the dude with like the bull or hat that's the one thing I don't know it's okay her name yeah Max years Mr. fears Mr. fears it wasn't peers no spheres yeah I don't know the fears

[01:48:53] it's shit at the in the credits it's F i e r s what's the same be Janoback oh my god I was supposed to mine yes it's my business movie I twice you so one came to an else

[01:49:05] really shardy yeah yeah yeah well you know that's they're they're sending up other stuff but if you're a nerd like oh cool Oz is my cool flea shardy I know um they also make a really unusual

[01:49:17] reference I can't remember who it is but there's a really off-colored reference that only nerds got and now I can't remember the best of my favorite movement in the movie out of anything in this movie

[01:49:27] was when he's sending a photo to change under James and then to reply in the email is wrong the fact I don't know why they'll just get jk Simmons back like we all know like we

[01:49:40] the audience is smart we get it this is a reboot but please bring them down but there's no one better than him right before you get jk Simmons already I imagine that jk Simmons when he's

[01:49:52] not around the public eye is jj energy it's been a real life he gets out of the bathroom where is fireman actually wears a wig in every other movie because his actual hair looks

[01:50:01] like that slick backs silver hair no wait I mean he has one of my favorite character moments ever in spider-man too is uh where he's like mourning the story he's like and and yeah

[01:50:13] he's the only one who could save him yeah I got it he's a thief I'm that a sense I bring him yeah he's just perfect like that piece of cast I'm good whoever plays him in the third one

[01:50:27] yeah jk Simmons I'm gonna write a letter to you that reds you say John now you dog we get it it's gonna be John jk Simmons so maybe the longest review of a movie ever in the

[01:50:40] third system yeah yeah oh yeah oh spider-man brings up the passion well there's so much going on the movie you know as I never really thought I felt like that crowded I think they laid the ground

[01:50:50] work for so much stuff and they they let the movie breathe I think it was fine yeah nothing about it feels bad but but there's things that do feel better it's just where they're not a place

[01:51:00] for you yeah it's it's just like it's it's one or the other you're gonna either have one opinion or the other it's not that I don't see where there are places that people could struggle with it

[01:51:10] I just think they're wrong but I did just like I said I never just got there when I watched it and I saw the geomoddy was at the beginning and then he came back at the end that's always

[01:51:21] wanted in a superhero movie right it was so cool is for you know a villain to show up just be you know cast aside and yeah then it just come back because you know you don't got that part

[01:51:31] because he was talking I think it was on Conan about how he always loved the rhino yeah and they gave him that part because of it so boy did they give him a part yeah so again

[01:51:41] I wonder if he's I don't think he's gonna be in the next one probably not pro and I don't care that was the best line in the comic book movie ever I'm a criminal so good I'm gonna put that

[01:51:52] on a t-shirt is it thing I actually really adore sort of the cartoonish sense of humor that had from time to time like they're like you get back yeah like like like like the like the

[01:52:01] moment in the truck where he's catching all the vials and stuff like it was really silly and took me by surprise that it was there but I was like that's that's a spider pan for when we were

[01:52:11] young yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah the selling is part and that movie is we're a spider man have been they show me as a fireman's head on and he's used to

[01:52:18] it was like that's big shockingly like he feels almost like the other reality that that reminded me of of a fun spider man yeah the best this is the best spider man because he's

[01:52:28] the one who actually makes clips so you just got all the way from I didn't like it to this is the best spider man I'm just saying he is the best spider man okay this is not the best

[01:52:38] spider man okay if you really want to talk about the best spider man movie it's probably spider man to Sam Raimi's for me that's just what it's gonna be yeah it's hard to be

[01:52:47] I mean it's a great one I even like spider man one and I like the amazing spider man more than I like this one like the first one with Garfield I like a little bit more I think I just like

[01:52:57] the interaction with Recyphans and Garfield a little bit more but you know who knows I mean need to see it again but I will say it is not as shitty as I thought it was gonna be so

[01:53:09] well well thanks Zach I'm sorry I'm trying to be a spider guy I'll try to catch bad guys just like flies should cool next week we're seeing neighbors with Seth Rogan and

[01:53:26] Zach I really like that's the only two weeks away yeah by the way does anybody mind do we bring on Spencer Kane for Godzilla he is a Godzilla fanatic this is the only thing I think

[01:53:39] it can a fan boyish about they kind of promised Alex Rhodes that he and his boys could come on that week but he looks but these Alex Rhodes what he's already the parody right

[01:53:51] yeah I know he's good guy oh yeah he's been trying to get on for like a while and they usually cancel so I'm gonna put him on man Spencer might still have a chance so that's just still gonna push it

[01:54:02] but yeah do you mind if I plug really quickly before we can absolutely god damn it we're almost a two hours act doing anything cool if I don't I'm not doing my job when we come on local brew when are we coming on actually wait till we're after

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