The Interrogation Revisited - Batch 2 - Episode 3

[00:00:09] [SPEAKER_05]: I should say if this is somehow your first episode, I implore you to go back and start at the beginning.

[00:00:15] [SPEAKER_05]: These revisits are great for those who've listened before, but you could be missing out on important information.

[00:00:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Right. So why did I choose this episode?

[00:00:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, with Noah currently being a captive by a clone, I thought it prudent to remind ourselves what Sarah and Noah were like when they were captors themselves.

[00:00:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Plus, highlights the challenges of getting these messages and organizing them for you.

[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Sometimes I genuinely don't know what order they take place, so without further ado, Episode 3 from Batch 2, Interrogation.

[00:00:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to do this anymore.

[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_00]: We can't stop.

[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_03]: But...

[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_00]: We're doing this.

[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_05]: I honestly can't tell you where that last piece falls and what follows.

[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_05]: No timestamps and even context clues don't help me to figure out where it fits.

[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_05]: I can't imagine Noah was ever okay with what follows, but I'm not convinced Sarah is either.

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_05]: It's messed up.

[00:01:20] [SPEAKER_05]: I've never personally been in a situation where necessity outweighs my morals, but those situations have to exist, right?

[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Like situational triage.

[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Triage is just addressing the degree of urgency to something, so maybe that's what Sarah is doing here.

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_05]: That what's being done is necessary to get as many answers as possible.

[00:01:41] Still...

[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_05]: As always, I can't promise that the messages are in the right order.

[00:01:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Only that this is the way they made the most sense to me.

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_00]: You recording?

[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, recording.

[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_00]: So let's start with an easy one.

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_00]: What's your name?

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_00]: That's not a name.

[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Go fuck yourself!

[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_00]: How's that for a name?

[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, for starters, it's not a name.

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_00]: You know you're the bad guy, right?

[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Looks a lot different from this side.

[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_00]: You were hunting us.

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_04]: I wasn't hunting anyone.

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh no, you were just there by accident. A friend of a friend brought you there.

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_04]: What's the plan?

[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_04]: You're the good guy, right?

[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_04]: So what's the plan?

[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_04]: You gonna kill me?

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Probably.

[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Probably?

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not seasoned at this.

[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_04]: What's that supposed to mean?

[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_00]: It means I'm probably gonna go too far.

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_00]: So once again for good measure, what is your name?

[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Go fuck...

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Sarah.

[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Sarah.

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Now, who is Sarah?

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I know it's not her first name, but it's her name to me.

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_03]: The chivalrous idiot.

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Shut up!

[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_03]: What else do you not know about her?

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I said shut up!

[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I know enough.

[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Both of you.

[00:02:53] What?

[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Shhh, I'm thinking.

[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_04]: She's plotting.

[00:02:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Anything else to add?

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Didn't think so.

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_04]: She's gonna betray you.

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_04]: I read her file-

[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Ow!

[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, we don't need to do this.

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_00]: We absolutely do.

[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_00]: He's getting in your head.

[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't forget who he is, who he works for, what he's doing down here.

[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, let's just ask her.

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Who are you?

[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Down here?

[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Nobody.

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_03]: You're different on the surface?

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_03]: We all are.

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_03]: So who are you down here?

[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_04]: 7369J.

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_00]: A codename?

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_04]: A new name.

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Who gave you the new name?

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Who gave you the name?

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Or what?

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_04]: What are you gonna do, Sarah?

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_04]: What about you, Noah?

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_04]: You a killer?

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Stop recording.

[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not a killer.

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Stop recording.

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Why?

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Because I need you to hold him down.

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to do this anymore.

[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_00]: We can't stop.

[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_03]: But...

[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_00]: We're doing this.

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm worried.

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Concerned.

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_03]: As much as this place has changed us,

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want it to, you know,

[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_03]: change us.

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Where average citizens will likely never add to the crime statistics

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_03]: or end up in a hall of fame.

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm okay with that.

[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_03]: God, what I wouldn't...

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_03]: It was scary but exciting before.

[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Creatures of myth, underground labs,

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_03]: an adventure with a pretty girl,

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_03]: but it's changed.

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_03]: The fun has long since stopped.

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Not you, Malaki.

[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_03]: You're unlikely positive to all of this.

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Granted when we meet your parents again,

[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure you'll be what gets me killed.

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Then you know it too, don't you?

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I miss dogs.

[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Normal, non-reptile.

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Dogs.

[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I want to be able to get back to them.

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I want my life to have been on pause

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_03]: and I want to get back, get comfortable

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_03]: and press play again.

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_03]: And I can't do that if we torture some soldier to death.

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I know it in my heart that I'll be changed.

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I want answers as bad as Sarah, maybe even more.

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_03]: This is the kind of thing I was certain existed in it.

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_03]: And now I have proof who wouldn't want to know more.

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_03]: But Sarah, there's...

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_03]: There's something different in her face.

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_03]: She hates him.

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Something about the creatures has really moved her, like...

[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_03]: an affinity or something.

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Noah! Noah!

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Come here. Jesus.

[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Your hands, Sarah.

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not my blood.

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's not much better.

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I've been thinking about what we're doing here.

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_00]: So have I and I hate it.

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, thank you.

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_00]: But I know how necessary it is.

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_00]: They have all the cards, Noah.

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_00]: We don't even know what year it is,

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_00]: but with this soldier we can even the odds a bit.

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Get that vital information that could very well save our lives.

[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't you want to know why they took us?

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_00]: How? When?

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Of course.

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Then what?

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to kill him.

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to kill him, but I'll hurt him.

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll have to hurt him. You understand that, right?

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_00]: When we're back in there,

[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to try my best to make him believe that I'm willing to kill him.

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_00]: And in order to do that, he has to think I'm capable.

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I get that.

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Then what else is it?

[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I've never done anything like this before.

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Neither have I.

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean any of this.

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you're in it now.

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_00]: And in case you haven't noticed,

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_00]: you've survived 100% of what's been thrown at you.

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so far.

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_00]: So far is as good as it gets on the surface too.

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Coming?

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:07:09] BEEP

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Ugh.

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I keep telling you, I don't know anything.

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_04]: We go by our new names while here

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_04]: and we're not even allowed to talk about our previous lives.

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Ugh!

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_00]: You have to make me halfway.

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I need something.

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_00]: You get that, right?

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_00]: The only reason you're alive is because you know something.

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Come on, man.

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_03]: You said it yourself.

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_03]: You read our files.

[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_03]: You know this isn't us.

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_03]: You also know that this was done to us

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_03]: and not the other way around.

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_03]: We're victims here trying to make sense of it all.

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I can't.

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Wait, wait, wait!

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't hit me again.

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Please.

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Sarah.

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm listening.

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Why can't you tell us?

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_04]: What they'll do to me.

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm threatening to beat you to death.

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but just me.

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_04]: They know my life.

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_04]: My family.

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_04]: My friends.

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_04]: The things I love.

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_04]: If they think I've betrayed them.

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Rock in a hard place.

[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I was as good as dead the moment you took me.

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I can't head back because they'll think I talked

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_04]: and I'll be punished accordingly

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_04]: after they torture me to find out what I said.

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Then why not help us?

[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know enough to be of value.

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_04]: You grabbed the wrong guy.

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Everybody knows something, has seen something.

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_00]: If you're dead either way, why not tell us what your something is?

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_04]: You don't get it.

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_04]: The collective is huge.

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_04]: A truly global network.

[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_04]: They have their hands in everything.

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_04]: They're so unstoppable.

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_04]: They're now just inevitable.

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_04]: They're beyond things like good and evil.

[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_04]: They're now just a force of nature.

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Then help us bring them down.

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Bring them down?

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Get us out.

[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_03]: We'll expose this facility to the world.

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_04]: So what?

[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_04]: It's one facility.

[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Just one.

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_04]: What you're proposing is like trying to take down the government

[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_04]: by destroying a singular city hall.

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Can I get some water or something?

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh sure.

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Coffee, tea?

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Want me to check the flavors of sparkling water we have?

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll get you water.

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_03]: You just keep talking.

[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_03]: If this collective is so bad, why work for them?

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Most of us are recruited.

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_00]: From where?

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_04]: You name it.

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Army, Navy, mercenaries, colleges, even jails and mental institutions.

[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Even so, you had to say yes at some point.

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not sure you could say no.

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_04]: They lay out their power to you.

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_04]: And so it isn't about choosing a team you hope will win.

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_04]: It was about jumping onto the team that already had.

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_04]: If they've truly won, I would have heard of them.

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Why?

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Because you scour the internet?

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Have inside tipsters?

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_04]: History is written by the victors.

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_04]: You know exactly as much as they want you to.

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_00]: What's happening?

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like everything just kicked back on.

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Come on up.

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_03]: There we go.

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_00]: What's happening?

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what's happening.

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Tell us.

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_00]: What?

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Sarah.

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_00]: He knows what's happening.

[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Sarah, let's chat over there.

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_00]: But he won't...

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Please.

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_04]: You're out of time.

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to do this anymore.

[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_00]: We can't stop.

[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_03]: But...

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_00]: We're doing this.

[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_05]: What if the soldier really doesn't know that much information?

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_05]: It would be great to get answers on the why of it all,

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_05]: but I don't think this guy is equipped to tell us.

[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_05]: He's a soldier.

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_05]: He's not a guy in charge.

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Plus we heard his voice last episode.

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_05]: He was the one in the truck questioning their orders.

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_05]: He didn't even know about Palmer's team.

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_05]: This guy is not going to be the wealth of information we needed him to be.

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_05]: But that doesn't mean he isn't without purpose.

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_05]: We've at least confirmed what we feared that if the collective is real,

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_05]: that they're already running the show.

[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm definitely not going back to the police, that's for sure.

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Do you think they made a police report when I went to them?

[00:11:57] God, I hope not.

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_05]: I hope they wrote me off and moved on.

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want my name on any paperwork associated with this.

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to end up in a tunnel as a test subject myself.

[00:12:08] But...

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Got me thinking.

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_05]: We keep trying to figure out why Noah and Sarah were taken.

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Makes sense, it's the common denominator between them,

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_05]: but if the collective really is everywhere and involved in everything,

[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_05]: they both could have been chosen for different reasons.

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe Noah really did dig too deep on the internet and see something he shouldn't have.

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_05]: But Sarah?

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe she was a recruit gone wrong.

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_05]: You heard them recruiting from jail?

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_05]: She's clearly been incarcerated at some point.

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe her recruitment failed and they wiped her memory.

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Assuming that's something they can do.

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_05]: It just feels all the more likely that they weren't chosen at random.

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_05]: That these tunnels could be the gulag for the opposition of the collective.

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to ask you nicely and I hope you respond in kind.

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Failing that, Sarah will take her turn.

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_03]: But we don't need to get to Sarah if you just answer the simple questions.

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_03]: How are we out of time?

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Sarah, now you ask me.

[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_02]: How are we out of time?

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_02]: If you're really doing this, Noah, this is new for you.

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_02]: How are we out of time?

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Wait, wait!

[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Easy enough to beat on an unarmed handcuffed soldier.

[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Undo the cuffs, make it fair.

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_00]: You're unarmed because I took your gun away.

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_00]: The handcuffs were yours too.

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_00]: So before you paint yourself as a victim who had no intention of catching us,

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_00]: ask yourself what the fuck you were planning to do with the gun and the handcuffs.

[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_00]: We're not idiots.

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Had me fooled.

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh did we though?

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_00]: By the sounds of it, we're causing your collective all kinds of trouble.

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Something tells me that we've made it further than anyone before.

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, this time.

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Please, help yourself.

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_03]: How are we out of time?

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_04]: You heard the machines.

[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't take a genius to figure out why all the machinery in a boiler room would kick on.

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Someone's turning things on.

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Turning it all on by the sounds of it.

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Trying to get rid of all the dark corners you've been hiding in.

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Palmer.

[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Well,

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_00]: if we're almost out of time, so are you.

[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_00]: You said it yourself.

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_00]: When they find you alive, they'll know you've talked.

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_00]: So we just leave him, let his own people sort him out.

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_04]: You can't do that.

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_00]: It's the easiest option.

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_00]: We have to get a move on and we don't have time to dance for your answers.

[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Fine, I'll talk.

[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_04]: But you'll set me free.

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Give me the same chance as you guys to get out of here.

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_04]: It's what's fair.

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_00]: True.

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Feels fair.

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Deal.

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Then what?

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_00]: What do you know?

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Nothing.

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I told you that.

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like I've looked through the keyhole of a museum and you're asking me to discuss the exhibits.

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't have that kind of information.

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_04]: What did you see through the keyhole?

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Nothing.

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I've seen what you've seen.

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_04]: The Chupacabras, the creatures, the maize.

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Beyond that, rumors mostly.

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Chupacabra.

[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Of course, the lizard dogs are Chupacabras.

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_03]: They were supposed to have been debunked, which is why...

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_00]: No, focus.

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Right, right.

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, what rumors?

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_04]: For starters, these tunnels go way lower than where we're at.

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Barely the tip of the iceberg.

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_00]: We saw that when we found the ventilation shaft.

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, there's supposed to be a bunch of those.

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_00]: What else?

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_04]: That's it.

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_04]: There's a restricted area to the west a few floors up.

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_04]: It's where we were taking the creatures.

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_04]: There's a way to drive up?

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Far into the cavern there's a road system that will take you up about a dozen floors.

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_04]: To the surface?

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_04]: God, no. I said twelve, not a hundred.

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_04]: To get out? Out?

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_04]: You need to get to like the elevator system.

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Like a mine shaft.

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And where is the system?

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Can we get to it from twelve floors up?

[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_04]: It's a complicated route, but technically...

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes?

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Perfect.

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Noah, grab your pet and let's go.

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Wait, I thought we...

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_04]: You're supposed to uncuck me!

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_04]: We had a deal.

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_04]: We said it was fair.

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_00]: And it would be fair, but life's not fair, is it?

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_00]: You might have jumped on the team that won, but you as an individual will lose.

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_00]: No!

[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Reprocussions.

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_04]: You can't do this.

[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I really can.

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Then you leave me no choice.

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_03]: What is he doing?

[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't...

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_03]: He pushed out one of his teeth with his tongue.

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_03]: You... both.

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_00]: He's foaming. What did he take?

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_03]: A suicide pill.

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Cool.

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I've seen one of those.

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's move. If he's dead then there's nothing left for us here.

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's head to the end of the cavern, to this road system.

[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_03]: You weren't really going to leave him.

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Were you?

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Were you going to uncuff him?

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but now we no longer need to make that choice.

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Sarah, we need to make it out of here as ourselves.

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to change so much that I can't go back to being me.

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I get that, but...

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_03]: To whatever unauthorized yahoos to arm this frequency,

[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_03]: we're back in the cavern.

[00:17:52] Run.

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_05]: So Palmer's back.

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_05]: I know it's not the thing to take away from all of this,

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_05]: but the rest is just so much to unpack.

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Was Sarah really going to leave him there?

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Was the information he provided even accurate?

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think I figured it out though.

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Noah's concerned that he's going to change,

[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know, I guess morally from all of this

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_05]: and the reason he's concerned

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_05]: is because he's still thinking they're going to make it out.

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_05]: He's thinking about life after Denver when he's free,

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_05]: whereas Sarah on the other hand is I guess resolved

[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_05]: in knowing that they might not make it out.

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe she's motivated on getting answers, closure.

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Hopefully they both get what they want.

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you to Curious Cast for helping to get this podcast out

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_05]: and I'll be back in a couple of weeks

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_05]: for another episode of Escaping Denver.

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Every season of Survivor starts the same way.

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Build the challenges and we hide the advantages

[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_01]: and then we turn it over to the players.

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I am ready to forge my own path.

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And no matter how many times we do it,

[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm still surprised.

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Survivor has evolved all these advantages,

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_01]: all these whizzes.

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_05]: It has to be victory or glorious death.

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_01]: That's why we watch because every season of Survivor

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_01]: is a new adventure.