Tristan & Braxton | Discussion Combustion Podcast | #291
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Tristan & Braxton | Discussion Combustion Podcast | #291

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This week, we’re joined by local musicians and owners of Two Goats Garage, Tristan and Braxton! We dive into a fun and wide-ranging conversation about the adventures of vehicle repair, the passion behind playing music, and the unique balance between the two worlds.

What We Get Into:

Life at Two Goats Garage and fixing rides with style

Playing music and staying creative in and out of the shop

NPC behavior and what it says about society

Different conspiracy theories and bending the mind a little

From greasy hands to drum machines, Tristan and Braxton keep things real and entertaining. Tap in for a good time and some thought-provoking laughs on Episode 291 of DCPC!

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[00:00:00] We'll have this discussion. Discussion? What discussion? This is a discussion. Combustion. Coming to you from Denver, Colorado, this is Discussion Combustion Podcast with your hosts Kevin Batstone and Arthur Rawe.

[00:00:16] But it's basically different businesses for the most part. Completely separate from one another. And then they're kind of working in a channel toward the bigger goals and other businesses if that makes sense.

[00:00:32] It does. Yeah, so we got two wonderful gentlemen with us on this episode of DCPC here. Braxton, Tristan, and they are entrepreneurs doing many things, wearing different hats, no pun intended. But you guys are looking good over there tonight. I actually met these two gentlemen. I was trying to sell my dad's Jeep and I was like out there detailing it. And you walked by, it was you. You're like, nice Jeep, man. And I was like, oh yeah, you want to buy it? So that's how we met.

[00:01:03] You're trying to sling him a vehicle, huh? I was. I was like, can we sell it? You finally got that out of there though, huh? I did sell the Jeep. That's good. That's nice. Not for as much as I wanted to sell it for. Oh, what did you sell it for? You know how it goes. How much would you have bought it for, I guess? Shit, that is a good question. I mean, we would have probably give you like 5,000 for it. Okay. Yeah. I should have, I should have held out for you. So you got what, like 4,500?

[00:01:31] I did 48, which wasn't too far off. That's the same thing though. Yeah. And it wasn't too far off. And like I met probably close to 10, almost 10 people. And he was the first dude, he showed up with cash in hand and he was all like, you know, he was the only person that gave me an offer. And I was like, it's pretty good. Sick of showing it. So I was like, let's get it out of here. Yeah. We kind of would have offered you that, but we just didn't feel like at that time, since you had just kind of listed it, that you would have, you know, really gotten enough

[00:02:00] offers to take that yet. But that's what we would have pretty much kind of offered. It was market for it. You know, whenever you're selling a vehicle privately, just kind of price it high. And then once, once you sell it, that's what it goes for. The perfect price would have been like 3,500. Oh my gosh. Yeah. I'll give you 4. Yeah. Yeah. My dad, he gave me a heart. He gave me a heart time for doing it at 48. Did he? Yeah. And I was like, that's what it goes for. And I like told him, I told him what it went for. Yeah.

[00:02:28] There was like the damage on and stuff. So what's like the craziest, since you guys do like a mobile mechanic, right? It's like a mobile repair. Mm-hmm. What's like one of the, like is it late night stuff normally or like what, how does, any good stories there? I'm trying to think. I definitely made a lot of interesting people for sure. I'm trying to think of some of the craziest ones.

[00:02:53] I know there's been a few, um, and I can't really put a finger on one, like one situation, but it's definitely, it makes a lot of the people, a lot of people, a lot of emotions with people's cars. Cause it's like they're living, you know, and how they make money and get everywhere. So a lot of emotions, like we see people's true colors for sure. Mm. People at their, at their worst. A lot of manipulation. Really? Yeah. People trying to low ball you or what?

[00:03:24] Nah, I mean, I'm trying to think of the best way. It's just really like, you know, somebody they really want, like if they're more of like a manipulative type of person, right? They might try to really try to work like a deal around certain prices or, or be really sweet or whatever in the beginning. And then you could give them a huge break or a huge discount or, or something like that. And then instead of that getting like recognized and appreciated kind of gets bypassed and ignored.

[00:03:51] And then they're turning into the way it wasn't recognized and that's not enough. And then it just turns into this whole headache. So it's like pretty much. We're trying to give less and less discounts because what we realize is anybody that's really looking for a discount is just kind of looking for like a way around and people will just start out the business interaction like that. Like, are there any discounts right away? It's like, I haven't even talked about the prices yet. You know, you don't even know what it is yet. And they want a discount. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:04:21] And that's like more frequent than not. You're running into that type of behavior. The grand scheme of things. Normally, I mean, the majority of like the people that we service is like a very high quality service. So they pay a pretty decent amount for, you know, like a call. We're really going after like the automotive technicians and consultants, you know, in roadside. So it's really like a triple A service, you know, from start to finish, from diagnosing

[00:04:47] it to towing if needed, mobile repair inspections, auto repair at the shop, whatever we got to do. Um, but just dealing with a lot of people, you'll see a lot of people, true colors or we'll give them, you know, just interesting to, to deal with people. Oh no, for sure. When I was selling cars, like I, I don't know why I haven't sold cars for like six years or something, but I still have dreams where I'm like back at the dealership.

[00:05:17] I had one just last night, but for some reason I like miss selling cars because people would act so odd when it comes to vehicles specifically, like people just act different. And it's like an interesting piece of humanity, how people go about buying cars and how different ethnicities go about buying cars. Yeah. Like you could almost buy the ethnicity, tell how somebody is going to try to like purchase this vehicle. Interesting. Yeah.

[00:05:46] Or how they can just have to sell it. Right. Mm-hmm. Definitely. I mean, you're dealing with someone's about to make a five year commitment unless they're coming with cash. Right. Yeah. And that's probably the best offer. Right. If you're still slinging them, you want the cash offers. Yeah. Right. That makes it a little bit easier. Then you have to get the financing involved and all the other games, credit scores, things like that. Give me the cash. Yeah. Right. That's going to make it easier. So when you guys are doing this roadside, is it like straight people are broken down the side of the road.

[00:06:13] You go to their driveway if they can't fire up like all of it. Yeah. Pretty much everything. I mean, you know, there's some things we can't do out there, but I mean, if we can give somebody like some advice even or just consulting, some things will happen to like somebody out in the road, like late and they'll be freaking out and they can't really do anything about it. Like they don't have money. They don't know what to do, but yeah, we'll just like talk to them for a little bit. Talk them through roadside therapy.

[00:06:42] Seriously. We have people panic, right? Like, what do I do? I don't have the money. This is going to cost a lot. People come from out of town and then their stuff breaks down and they really don't have a budget for it for real. Yeah. Cause they're out here just, you know, exploring. Passing by. We've helped a lot of people. We get a lot of calls of people who are out here just picking up a car, buying a car, dropping it off, grabbing a sibling, doing whatever. Something goes out like the fuel pump. Yeah. And then we get a lot of calls like that.

[00:07:11] So we do a lot of emergency calls, emergency response, real intimate service. We're adding to the team. So, you know, we're getting more people ready around the clock and we're doing, you know, mobile services. If it's the side of the highway or we can get tow trucks anywhere pretty quick, 15 to 30 minutes, roughly. We're like, okay, so somebody is watching this and then like a week down the road, they're like, holy shit.

[00:07:37] I know guys call what's the, what would, what they need to search to find you guys. So yeah, they'll go to Google and search two goats garage, two goats, two goats, two goats, two goats, two goats, two other one will come up too, but got a new location in Denver. And I mean, we've done crazy things. We'll do, we'll go on calls. If you call us at two in the morning and you want us to just come inspect your vehicle. Yeah. We'll have a team member come out and just do that shit at two in the morning. Who's answering?

[00:08:07] Which, which random ass calls do it at like, it's like, you know, Google, it says we're open from 12 to 12. So, and then, but we'll get calls at 12, one, two, 3. AM. And people will act like it's not even that time. They'll just be, you'll be, hello, this is two goats garage. And they'll just, hi. Yeah. So I got this Tahoe, right. And they're just good dive into it right away. And you're thinking like, why the fuck are you calling at this time? Like we're here for you. Seriously. Like no judgment.

[00:08:37] Right. But it's just like, sometimes people will really call and, and it's like, I think they mainly call just to see if we're really going to answer at that time. They're desperate. But they're not expecting us to. So when we do, they're like, they're thrown off and like, they'll even admit it. They'll be like, Oh man, I was just honestly kind of calling them like, say what up. I seen you were open or like a lot of people would be like, we saw two goats garage. So we just wanted to call in, like, say what up. Some people have paid us to just come out and say what up, you know, like, they're like

[00:09:07] mad at their, they know your musicians or something too. Like they know the, like, they're like, I mean, it's completely separate. It's just like with the automotive brand, it's like, they get mad at their mechanic or some shit. They type in a new one and we come up somewhere and they just see two goats garage, mobile technicians or whatever. And we've had a couple of people just like feel it out. They're like, Oh yeah, I just want to, you know, come through, do just like a little inspection, but I mainly just wanted to meet you guys. It's interesting. It's sick. Cause we really promote our faces a lot in the brand, you know, we're giving people something

[00:09:37] to bite onto when it comes to working on their cars. Yeah. And obviously we can't be the ones to always do the work. But you know, everyone that will be within us, you know, we'll be a goat, we'll be a person, we'll be somebody that's really cares, you know, and as a part of the team. Well, hell yeah. But, and so that's been, was that around because neither of y'all are from Colorado. Like you're not from here. I was, I've been here for a long time, but yeah, yeah, not, I wasn't born here.

[00:10:07] Well, Tristan, you said you were. Yeah, I was born here. Okay. See, I always forget. I have this conversation, this same conversation with a lot of people and then I always forget who is the native. So yeah, we, we got that in common. Yeah. That's tight. Okay. That's fun. So Papa was in the automotive game. Hmm. Did you both, you can wrench it? I mean, yeah, I mean, I learned a lot from this guy really, honestly, you know, kind of

[00:10:32] came together in the business and I was working in shops before I was a, I was tech for a couple years, a few years. Nice. And at a couple of different shops. So you're ASC certified. Oh, I mean, I think if I took all the tests, definitely, but I just haven't done that yet. Yeah. So you just don't have the piece of paper, but you have the knowledge to fix everything. Now you guys do like transmissions and clutches and all of it. Yeah. Pretty much everything.

[00:10:58] We're about to like open up his transmission and kind of like, see how that goes. Okay. Try to rebuild it. Um, cause I know some shops like we do everything, but transmissions. Yeah. We don't want to touch that. We dive a lot into that type of stuff head first. You know, like we work, we really work, do a lot of work on, um, turbo diesels. A lot of those, a lot of big Rams, 25, 35, 45 hundreds, new ones, all types of different repairs roadside.

[00:11:26] Cause we'll get calls to from, you know, we come up, we got an advertisement. Um, so we come up, so if someone breaks down, they're a driver, they're driving for a company. Let's say a guy owns a fleet of, of whatever they break down. He's got to kind of arrange something for them or whatever. So we'll get a lot of calls. It's like, Hey, one of my drivers is stuck on the side of the road. We need to see what's going on immediately. We need a team out there. So gun out there, check it out, diagnose it.

[00:11:53] Um, then a lot of times you got to just go into the next step, which is the repair. But a lot of times that can't be done the same day. Cause you got to get parts, you got to get together numbers and shit. So we've got a specific process for it, but, um, we bring a dope experience to it. Nice. Yeah. I grew up, uh, my, my pops was like a, a general subcontractor. So I knew, I knew how to swing a hammer, like frame out some shit, do a lot of housework,

[00:12:21] like remodeling type, but I don't know cars for sure. So I'll just, I'll own that right there. Sounds like a, it sounds like a fun experience and like, definitely like it's growing, which is awesome. So congratulations on that end. And then the day I met y'all, you were on the way to go perform a show. And you were saying like, right before we got on, it's like the hip hop EDM, uh, Kev had a band. He's, he's been a lead singer and guitarist.

[00:12:49] I have made a bunch of rap music in the past. And like, I used to make a bunch of like hip hop beats and stuff. So we love chopping up with music. Let's, let's jump over that. Like, yeah. So Braxton you're making EDM. Yeah. I've been producing it for, I'm just now getting serious into it now that, uh, like, you know, got the businesses and it's a little easier to kind of like transition and put more time into it. Um, but yeah, I love making music, um, low distance. I was a kid for sure.

[00:13:18] Um, yeah, I kind of mess it all around. Just kind of whatever sounds good. I like some, I'll get into like some funky, like disco shit. Okay. Yeah. Whatever sounds good. Whatever the vibe is. So you're not like pigeonholed. You're not like, okay, this is my genre of music that I mess. You're kind of open to all of it. All of it. Yeah. I know I do like, and I do listen to a lot of like base, base heavy music, like, uh,

[00:13:46] like tape B and like kind of like the Denver, you know, base music scene, that type of stuff. Grizz and stuff. Is that like the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah type of stuff. Yeah. Like some movie, some movie shit. You ever do any dubstep? Yeah. Honestly, it basically is dubstep. I still don't really know. What's the main difference? Is it tempo? Is it like what makes dubstep dubstep? Yeah. Yeah. I know. That's definitely a tough one. I know the tempo is always at like 140 BPMs for dubstep. Is it? Like somewhere right, right around there.

[00:14:16] So it's fast. Pretty quick. And then house music is 128 and it's just super consistent. Uh huh. Uh huh. But dubstep. Yeah. The heavier, harder, harder, like head bangers. It's almost like heavy metal of EDM. Yeah. Honestly. It's heavy metal, like heavy, like fast tempo. Think about the double bass drum. Yeah. Yeah. That's usually, you know, mosh pits. People are getting pretty excited. Like you'll see people's moshed at dubstep. Definitely. Like similar vibes, the way they're taking it in. Yeah.

[00:14:45] It's an experience. I guess that's huge. They do. That genre is tight. People get really emotionally involved into that type of music. I feel like, you know what I mean? Oh yeah. We made some dope ass shit together cause he's got, makes a lot of like hip hop stuff too. Like we've got a lot of beats producing on a lot of different levels, genres, something over here, something over here. And I can do a little producing. So we'll come together and we'll make something like really dope.

[00:15:14] And we got like three or four or five songs we produced out in the last like week. Nice. They sound really dope. Nice. Really dope. Are you going to release them? Who knows what we'll do with them. That'd definitely be the goal. We're trying to put them in like, yeah, like a project. Like an old EP or something? Put something actually together as like a full production. We're talking about video, you know, photo, you know, Instagram marketing, everything like that. So people are getting the full production of it.

[00:15:44] And this is like really fresh. Like you don't have like the group name for that right now. No, we're both pretty much like independent artists. So he's like an independent producer. And then, you know, I'm like an independent artist, like songwriter, kind of like hip hop artist, performer, whatever. It got into like producing a little bit and then audio engineering and stuff. So, and then we kind of ran into each other randomly or whatever.

[00:16:07] And then just got involved in like some, um, intertwined, like our networks kind of intertwined. Yeah. So how long have y'all known each other for? Cause you lived, you live together. Mm hmm. So is this like the first place that you've lived together or like, how is that? Yeah. So what, like two years? I think so. Yeah. So we pretty much came together on some, um, you know, business terms, which, um, is

[00:16:36] always good terms to be on with everyone. Yes. So like keep it for what was our saying? Professionally unprofessional. Professionally unprofessional. Yes. Or unprofessionally professional. Yeah. However you want to word it. Yeah. You know, still having fun and getting it done. Yes. Right. Yeah. Have fun and get it done. Yeah. That's good. That's good. All right. I mean, that's the goal, right? Definitely. If you can, if you can enjoy. Yeah. The mayhem of finding some fun in the chaos. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:17:06] It's important. Right. Like the two goats. Bringing the duality. Yeah. We talk about so many deep topics on a daily basis. Seriously. Cause you know, we've got two goats, you got mana. That's his producer name. That's a monkey in Spanish. A female monkey. Really? Yes. It means, uh, I know that cause I call my girl mana, you know, so that's how female monkey. That's a female monkey. How's it spelled? Uh, M O N A.

[00:17:36] Okay. Okay. Pretty sure. So those are their M A N A. Okay. Mana. Well, yeah, maybe I said, maybe I'm still learning. Yo aprendiendo espanol. So if I say anything wrong, it's cause I'm a student, a studiante. A studiante. Trying to learn. Somebody says, oh, stupid. Muy muy. Mana is what the life giving energy source. Okay. In the Bible. Yeah. That's where it kind of came from. I know it's like in like Polynesian culture. It was like, yeah, like the life giving energy source.

[00:18:06] And then it's in the Bible too. Mm hmm. So I kind of, my whole goal is I just love music. I have so much fun making it, but if I, I want to basically like move people, make people feel something. So it's like giving somebody life through a song or it's kind of like, yeah, I feel like I actually read about mana and the, like the four agreements book. It's like one of those self help, self empowering books.

[00:18:32] And I think they were talking about that mana and that like essence, the like energy. Yeah. Yeah. Cause that. Okay. So what about this? Do you guys think that? Cause I believe this exists. I've talked to Kevin a lot about this already, but, um, the subconscious network. And so that's like basically where we all are connected. We can tell what's going on with everybody. We know every answer. And basically it's your intuition.

[00:18:59] Like we actually know every answer to every question that we would ever want. Hmm. Yeah. We were kind of talking about that the other day on the highway. We're talking about how every person technically has the, their own solution to their own problem. And every problem is technically self generated. So when everybody actually has the own, the solution themselves.

[00:19:21] And so they actually are the answer, but it's a lot of people walking around with a self generated problem, not putting in the effort to have the solution or the answer. And then it's becoming, then you got other people adopting problems like that, or it's getting put onto the people around them. And, um, or they don't want to like, look at themselves as the issue. Yeah. Like they're not taking accountability for it. Yeah. And then that's what like life is.

[00:19:49] Do you have like a billion or 7 billion people that are all doing that? It's contagious negatively going on each other and everything like that. So we talk about topics like that all the time. It's like, yeah, the subconscious mind decisions, teamwork, ethics, quality control, reputation, everything. Yeah. We're diving deep into that shit for sure. So as far as current conspiracies.

[00:20:14] So like there, there was a lot of stuff coming out like late last year about how like they came out, like, so it was like the former department of defense.

[00:20:26] Reps were like testifying in front of Congress that humans have interact, interacted with non-human intellectual life that we had non-human advanced technology that different countries had this technology. And there was actually a, um, what do they call it when there's like a war based on technology? Like it's like a technology warfare. It's like a logical work. Yeah.

[00:20:55] But it's, but it's off of this non-human technology. So there's a, it's like a, a something race, like a arms race with, uh, with like non-human technology that these aliens live on this planet and they live in the oceans. And like, did you guys hit, not see a little bit about that? It was like in the news. Yeah. No one was talking about it was gone the next week. Yeah. Yeah. Which a lot of that shit, a lot of that shit goes. Yeah. It'll come out and then it's gone. Yeah.

[00:21:24] Like the, like the, uh, the files they released. Oh, for, uh, it's gotta be just random people writing articles, getting pushed through on publications and shit coming out nicely written meets the meets the newsworthy quality. Looks, you know what I mean? It's a real location. And a lot of it's AI now writing this shit and coming up with these videos and these headlines and these news stories. It's true. It's like AI generated. It's like, what is this? Yeah. They're just trying to get you to click on it. And people do. And they're like, Hey, did you hear this?

[00:21:54] It's like, it's AI. The weird thing about it is between behind every AI is like a person, right? So it's like, that means that everything that AI is doing has an intention. It's just whoever's, whatever person is doing that is their intention. So the AI might be putting together these headlines or different articles or whatever, but it's trying to bring awareness towards something that somebody has got it like doing, you know? Cause it's like, AI is like, you tell it what to do and then it like does it. Right. So it's like, you gotta give it the prompts.

[00:22:22] Everything on the internet that you click on or that you look at or everything that you see has a purpose, has an intent and is intent driven by somebody or something trying to get to influence you to do something. Like we talk about this type of shit, like hypnosis and shit, life, the cell phones, who, who was saying that the cell phone was a binky? Wasn't that Gabe? Yeah. I think it was. Yeah. It is like a pacifying device. And then like, you'll see, you'll see the elevator all the time. Like I love, I love the elevator talk.

[00:22:51] It's like a security mechanism to like you get into the elevator with like a girl and she doesn't know you. Right. She'll just kind of stand in the corner and like be on her phone thinking like, that's like, that's, that's the pacifier. Yeah. It's like, that's, that's the way to like a type of mechanism in a way, you know what I mean? When it's like first. So depending on the type of social media, like what country it comes from. And this is what's interesting about it.

[00:23:19] Cause the only foreign social media that I've ever really used to my knowledge is TikTok. Yeah. Like isn't Reddit American? I mean, Facebook's technically American, but it's run by pretty much China at this point with meta. All the investors. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like, you know, it's interesting cause just on TikTok, I'll hear like pro China. Right. Like shit come up where it's like, actually China is really nice to live. So that's like the narrative that you're talking about.

[00:23:47] They got like the bots and like the algorithms to like try to push that shit. And then I was hearing that, like, if you are like of military age male in China, like the type of TikTok you're getting is way different than what they're feeding Americans because they want to like weaken our mentality and like, and all this. That's gotta be, that's gotta be, I don't know.

[00:24:08] I mean, I'm not going to say it's not like that, but at the same time, that's kind of gotta be one of those things where it's like, whoever came up with that idea in the first place. I mean, every different society is already moving at a different pace regardless when it comes to like shit, whether it's like financially or whatever.

[00:24:26] So it's like, it's probably just more with that time or with that economy because there's so much misinformation and so much like through the news and social media and publicity, people are literally caught up in like a, you know, anime lifestyle. They're not experiencing anything. They're only seeing it how it is. So it's almost like how they see it on social media is not how it really is in real life. So it's like this false hood of experience that's kind of out there. Yeah.

[00:24:54] I mean, that kind of piggybacks off why people want to just pull out their phone when they have this uncomfortable, you know, social interaction. I was at a comedy club the other night and they lock up your phones, you know, so that you can't take videos and shit with the community. And I looked around the room and there was 250 people not on their phones. And I was like, this is very refreshing. People were having conversations. It felt like the old days again, because they were forced to do that. But just the energy of the room felt so much different because you didn't have everyone just sitting there. Hey, look at this. And let me, let me put my binky in my face, you know? So I actually enjoyed it. I like that they do that.

[00:25:24] It takes it back to the old school. I'm surprised that people gave up their phones. I know, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's like, that's when, you know, somebody had two phones and they still recorded that shit. Lock up this one. I still have this one. Yeah. Good luck. Good luck. It was weird when like pot became legal because I would be trying to sneak that shit all the time. And like, now you like go to a concert and like, they're like empty out your pockets. And I'll be like leaving the tube tube in there. And they're like, I can see that you still have something in your pocket.

[00:25:54] And I feel like I'm going to get in trouble for like carrying marijuana around and shit. But, but it's not that way anymore. No, you know, I don't understand. So adapted. Yeah. Like marijuana, hashtag marijuana equally accepted as alcohol. That's too long as a hashtag. It's pretty long. Hashtag. Could do like MJ equals alcohol or something, but MJ equals alcohol squared. Yeah. But not in places like Texas. Right.

[00:26:22] And there's still a lot of Alabama and a lot of states where they're like, no, super controversial too. I don't know why we're talking about that on the way over here. How controversial weed is. I mean, why is it how it's accepted? It's either like accepted fully or not at all. Then you can, you got people that don't really care, but it's like, even if we're talking about like with an athlete, they might really be pro or they might really be on the other side of them. Or like somebody with health, they might really like try to talk about the benefits or not.

[00:26:48] So it's like, we're talking about the different type of people that you interact with. I don't know what their view on it is. Yeah. I feel like it's kind of like, I feel like marijuana is slowly becoming more accepted. I mean, coming from my perception in Colorado, it's just a very skewed perception of that. But like most of the country, most people don't want to drink as much anymore. Alcohol is on the decline for sure. Yeah. It's a health trend, right? It's taking over. Yeah. The CBD. It's going to turn everyone into zombies.

[00:27:18] The THC. Seriously. And the shit's too strong for me. I'll be honest. I, you know, I'm from the old days where we'd say I take the stems and berries out and have this shitty weed. And that's like what I thought weed was. And then I came to Colorado and smoked this shit. And I'm like, Jesus Christ. Take one hit of this shit. Everyone's going to get too high, too, too, too high all the time. Zombied out. Yeah. On straight autopilot. Very few people actually making decisions. Right. Yeah. It's just going to be like moving through a bunch of NPCs.

[00:27:48] Yeah, it's true. I use that word all the time. And a lot of people are like just. They're out there. Like you said, Kev, like they're making decisions with chat GPT. Right. Like even in my company, I'm in like a pretty high position where we're making a lot of big decisions that affect like hundreds of people. And people are double checking with chat before they like send it. Yeah. So that's kind of crazy. It's concerning. That's the human behavior where it's going. Yeah. You know, like we were saying, you're trusting and they call it artificial intelligence. I'm still not sold on that. Is it artificial?

[00:28:16] It's artificial because there's something to it. Right. There's some substance. It can. It's learning. It's becoming self aware. Be careful with what you prompted to do. You know, that's the thing. Ask you for anything that's opinion related or like reassuring or anything like that. If you, it's just like, it's like a thesaurus, whatever you try to get some information on, you'll get something dug back up. And if like, cause we've used it in like, even in our shop, we use artificial intelligence

[00:28:42] and stuff like that, like GPT and stuff to, uh, which is sounds tight to say, you know, cause like a lot of the people are, you tell them like, you know, yeah, we use artificial intelligence to help with like the diagnostic process. Some people are thinking, Oh dang, they're using artificial intelligence. They're advanced. You know, it's not like a keyword, but at the end of the day, it can really be a double edged sword. Cause it'll really take you down a route that you might've been really accurate. And then it picks up on something and it just starts going down this whole route.

[00:29:10] Next thing you know, you're getting distracted and stuff. So it's like, you gotta just try to keep it to a lot of the facts, twerk specs, some procedures, stuff like that. But so it's good, you know, but you gotta edit it. You gotta look over it. Oh yeah. Cause it always says, chat GPT can make mistakes, right? It always puts that in there as like a disclaimer. Right. Tame it. Yeah. That's basically what it is. And it needs to be used. But that's, that's the concern is where does it go from here? Cause we've seen what it's done in the last five years.

[00:29:39] I remember when deep fakes became a thing. Now we see these entire AI videos of, I mean, you can't, it's hard to tell them apart. You know, did this actually happen? Did this person say this? The AI voiceovers, all that shit is accelerating rapidly. Very quick. Even just on chat GPT, like the features on there, like it auto updates or something. And you know, it, you can literally see that it's like trying different ways to like figure stuff out and getting more and more detailed. It's crazy. I know everybody's using it.

[00:30:08] I did it the other day to send a text message. I was like, Oh, this is bad. I was like, this is not crazy. I mean, it's a tool. We have a look over some contracts for us. I've had it help me revise contracts. You know, it's like we really used it almost not to the maximum degree, but pretty proficiently. It can be efficient. I mean, we use it for show notes for this program, you know, give it some ideas of what we talked about and it spits out a nice, well, scroll down and see what chat GPT gave us. Yeah.

[00:30:35] You know, cause you got to edit it, but you still have to feed it what you want. Like here's these, you know, two goats and all this shit. And then it gives us the show notes. It saves time a little bit. Yeah. You know, it saves a lot of time. It can clean up some stuff, especially if you do like, cause I I'll do the voice to and I'll talk, you know, speak it in that way that I can just get all my thoughts out, boom and analyze it. Here's your show notes. Yeah. I think I'm going to do that this week. It's the way that was a nice cheat. Cause then that's the way you just talk it out. You just talk it in, you know, even if you make some, you know, grammatical errors, it'll kind of pick up on that. Right.

[00:31:04] But that's the way I've been doing it. GPT's sick, man. You can use it for a lot of different stuff. Did you guys see the big action figure trend that was going on? That one got me. Yeah. I was very disappointed when I saw it. But mine turned out bad. I was still disappointed when I saw that. What was that? So there's a huge trend on social media right now. I'm teasing them. Yeah. Maybe that's what we do where like everybody there, they're showing like a, an action figure package, you know, something like this. And it's, it'll be like, you know, two goats and I'll have like have an action figure that of you guys.

[00:31:33] And like a, a wrench and like all this shit and everybody's having one made. AI is doing it. You've seen it, right? Are you guys on social media much? What are we talking about now? Yeah. We're a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Now that we're talking about you'll see it probably at night. You're going to see all this shit. I know what you're actually talking about. I have seen that. It's kind of like the bobblehead type thing, but it's more like kind of into like the action figure type vibe. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And so chat GPT is what's doing it. Yeah. Give it a picture yourself. You say, make me an action figure, blah, blah, blah. Boom. It spits out all this shit. We got to do that. You're going to have to get on it.

[00:32:03] Maybe a lot of logos and shit like that will stick around for a long time. Yeah. Just give them a couple of pictures. Bubbles. You get the right image generated. Yeah. You can really run with that shit. Mm-hmm. You can run with anything nowadays. Yeah. I mean, so people are concerned about AI, but here's the thing. Like if you're utilizing these tools and you're not allowing yourself to become ignorant of it, like then you can actually have a lot of success. Cause that's the thing is people just get stuck in their ways and they don't want to try

[00:32:32] something, you know? I always say spell check was like the first day. I remember Microsoft word. It'd be like, Oh, you spelled this wrong. People would be like, Oh, this is getting fancy back in our day. Our typewriters didn't. I can't spell because of spell check. I'll blame. So there you go. I'll blame spell check. That was early AI where it would like auto correct your shit, you know? And that was an adjustment. And so it's just, I think it's just happening at accelerated rate now. You know, if we continue to use it, I think if you're not malicious with it, I think that's, that's the key. Right.

[00:32:59] It's gotta be kind of smart to use it to a certain extent because if you're lazy, you know, or you don't know what to say to it or what to do. It's just, it's kind of like, there's a two sides of it. The one side is just for like the consumers, the completely brainwashed zombies, people that I want to be like, turn on TV. And then yeah. Yeah. And then, you know, the buzzwords and then the other people that want to really utilize

[00:33:25] it to bring processes, businesses, organizations and stuff together. So it's kind of like made for those two people, but it's not looking good. Yeah. The AI stuff is interesting, man. It's, it's fun. I was like, I'm kind of like, I try to like, I don't know. Sometimes I don't want to do the new shit and I just, I kind of like the old school stuff. But it's here to stay though.

[00:33:54] You got to have a nice happy medium with that. Yeah. To new school with, you got too many QR codes and too many buttons and pop-ups and a bunch of shit going on. No one's going to go anywhere. Yeah. But if you're, if you're not with the times of, you know, a certain threshold, then you stand out. So you got to be right in that nook kind of like the marketplace in a way of like where things are. Hence an actual person picking up the phone at 2am. Hey, my check engine lights on.

[00:34:24] Instead of going to the phone prompt. Something like that. Well, yeah. Because you got to think, I mean, I'm sure you guys service a lot of, you know, older folks too, but need some, and they're not the most tech savvy, you know? I'm not, that's not age discrimination. They just, you know, they struggle with some things, you know, apps and you know, they're like, what is this? You know? So like that old school touch definitely, like you said, kind of you tapping into the young market and then the elderly folks can still feel comfortable coming to two goats. Seriously. Yeah.

[00:34:49] We literally develop our, our, our stuff online kind of tailored for the older people, because if the older people can do it, then the younger people can do it. So it's like, if the process is so simple that like a little kid or like an old grandma can do it and the font's big and it's simple and it's not a million questions and it's just very cut and dry, then it works very well. And then everything is spaced out very nice.

[00:35:18] So like, that's how we try to do it. Keep it simple. So you can kind of do it on autopilot in a way, you know, like our website on the phone is designed like an application. So it's like big buttons, simple things, and it's just all funnels and helps kind of direct you toward your goal. You know what I mean? That's a smart way to do it. I've never heard it explained quite like that, but the logic makes sense. So we've never really dived into this NPC conversation on discussion combustion.

[00:35:48] It's come up. I mean, but what, okay. So what is, what is like a real life human NPC? Like, what is there a definition to this? Well, we got to start with what NPC means, right? Non-playable character. That's where the term came from. Got levels to the shit. Right. And so then you apply that to life and you look at someone that's like, right, this looks like an NPC, just that kind of backfill person that's, you know, in the mission, but like he doesn't have any substance. Like there's no script for him. He's just existing, right?

[00:36:15] With his binky in his hand, eating mozzarella sticks or whatever. NPCs kind of like your programs too, a little bit, right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, and I think people that just kind of go with like what they're told to do, like the sheeple, if you will, or kind of NPCs, like they're not really thinking for themselves. Like the news told me to do this. Yeah. So I'm going to do it. Okay. It's like, it's like everyone, everyone is an NPC to a certain degree. I would agree with that. Everyone is actually a character in the game.

[00:36:41] And so depending on how people are trying to go about it, how conscious they're trying to make decisions and how much control they're trying to have and whatever, they're standing out. And then they're less, you know, automated, less predictable and stuff. And then you got the regular everyday people that are just sucked into life with bills and family problems.

[00:37:07] They're just kind of brainwashed beyond just the first portion of, you know, getting to know reality and stuff. Now you're brainwashed for like another eight years into society and that stuff without. So it's like, everyone's really an NPC at the end of the day. It's just how much of an NPC do you want to be each moment? Or like, it's a good breakdown of it.

[00:37:31] But like, um, yeah, because we're, we're all like, I've been influenced by media and like stuff like that too. So it's like, at what point do you start questioning the information that you're getting? I don't know. I think yeah. All of it. Yeah. You almost have to question everything. You do. Yeah. You have to question all of it. Yeah. If you go into Walmart and like, you look at the person that's got like nothing but like

[00:37:57] soda and Doritos and shit, like horrible food in their cart, highly, you know, higher chances of backfill NPC, right? Just consuming garbage, you know, Walmart, just, you could just look at them. They look like they're not having a good time in life. They're struggling, you know, just existing, just complaining. They're probably not in the best health, right? Like that's usually how I can do it. It's somebody else's fault or something. Blame it everyone else. Yeah. Like their posture. Yeah. They just look completely defeated. Yeah.

[00:38:24] But those are the people that actually really respond to like encouragement the most. So that's what makes it some like the most exciting is like giving encouragement to somebody who's looking like that. It needs it versus somebody who already has it. Like you can really turn somebody's attitude around because if they're feeling so down about it, they feel that up about it. They might pop off and, and really, you know, make the most of it.

[00:38:53] So acknowledgement is really important. Yeah. Because it's like, they finally are like tasting the freedom of a new thought or like, you know, if you've been in that place for a long time, it's, it's like, that's all, you know, and to get a glimmer of hope. Yeah. Like that could be a very powerful thing, right? Like you might actually like actually start changing and like actually start hitting the gym and trying to eat fruits in the morning. Just from one person telling you something at the grocery store, Hey man, you look good.

[00:39:22] Or just some, something like that. I try to give a lot of compliments like that because one little compliment like that can ricochet throughout somebody's whole life. And like, they'll just go on this like killing spree of their goals because you just said some shit at the right time. Somebody fucked with them or broke their heart or stole from them or something. And you say some shit like go killing tiger or some weird ass shit like that.

[00:39:48] Or you give them some, some knuckles at the gym, just give like a couple of those out and you'll just really see people like soak that shit in. Yeah. I like that. Do you guys ever try experimenting, giving smiles to people? Like you smile at a stranger cause I'm always going on walks. So like, I'm always trying to like smile at people. Um, there was this one time I was experimenting with a dog and this, this fucking thing. My story is, is fucking cracking. This shit. I've heard this story.

[00:40:17] So I'm like, I'm on the cherry cherry Creek trail. This dude, he has like this skittish dog and he's in front of me. And like the dog just like, keeps looking back at me. And I'm like, dude, this dog is going to keep looking back at me. I'll give him a reason to look. And so, so like the dog looks back and I'm like, I started acting like a crazy human being and I'm like jumping around, like flailing my limbs and shit. And the dog is noticeably like being like, Oh, and, and like to the point where the owner can like see its dog reacting.

[00:40:47] And then he looks back and I'm just like, strolling. No, like, it's like no thing. Like it's no thing. And like this happened like five times where I was like freaking out where the dog can see. And then, and then like, eventually the guy was like, the dog was getting so distracted that he just parked. Basically, he like parked on the side of the path with him and his dog standing there. And when you go by, yeah, just let me go by. And then after I went by, I was like kind of saying hi to the dog. I'm like, hi.

[00:41:13] And I always remember the owner was like, see, he's not that scary. And this is like, it was just kind of funny. So social experiments are a lot of fun. They are. And going back, Tristan, what you're saying, as far as like being a genuine kind human being. Yeah. Look, if you like someone's kicks, tell them that you like their sneakers. Like, let them know what's up. Like that, that goes a long way. Definitely. Yeah. And you're going to get some no's out there of people that just don't want to be talked to, but that's life. Yeah. You know, they're like, don't talk to me.

[00:41:43] I'm like, okay, I won't. We do a lot of social experiments. It's fun. I like doing an airports. People are usually pretty stressed there on time. Try to strike up a conversation with some at the airport. Like, I don't have time for this. You know, you're going to keep moving. People in airports are like people who buy cars. They're, they're behaving oddly in airports. Yeah. It's one of those places. It's a stressful environment for them, I guess. Yeah. Right. They can't handle anymore. They're tapped out for the day. Yeah.

[00:42:11] Had this toxic ex one time and we almost didn't make the plane because she like wanted to argue with me. Oh God. About it. And then like there, everyone's on the plane and we're the last people on the plane. It was so on board. It was so bad. I don't even remember what we were like a bag of Doritos or something. It was so, it was so trivial. It was so trivial. But what you guys are doing is dope. Um, I, I love the music and kind of like the early phases. So I'm curious to see how that grows and develops.

[00:42:41] Yeah. Um, I want to hear some stuff too. Yeah. Here's some samples. So are you guys any shows coming up? Yeah. You gonna be doing any more shows? I'm planning some out. We're trying to make sure we hit the right venues. We don't want to go to, uh, you know, places where we got to convince and persuade a bunch of people to come. Um, that's so far out of the way and so unfamiliar that it's like, um, just doesn't work as well as just going somewhere where everybody's kind of already going naturally. You know what I mean?

[00:43:11] Like Larimer Lounge or I think what it's like ski houses, like right there somewhere. They're already doing like little shows every weekend. Yeah. They had to get into some places like that. They're not even little. Those places are packed out. Yeah. I don't like the bar scene vibe a little bit, but there's kind of like this thing in Denver right now going on between like bars and like EDM kind of like a dope, pretty, uh, open socially environmental kind of like vibe going on. Not so like prideful and hostile and like ghetto, you know what I mean?

[00:43:41] Like a lot of the places more like open and social and kind of like that where there are bars in a way to there's bars there, but there's also like dance floors and we've got the whole D. DJ set up and then these places are just already getting packed out Thursday, Friday, Saturday night, pop up in some places like that with enough notice, promote it like a big show. People are already going to be there and then it's just going to be better in general. It's kind of the plan. It's a good time to kick it off. Spring, summer coming. Probably some music festivals coming this summer.

[00:44:11] Yeah. No, there's a lot. Technically we do have an event coming up actually because we're, uh, we're going to show. Yeah. I mean, technically, I mean, this is good. It can be looked at small too or big, but whatever, but like the pool parties or whatever, we're going to be kicking off shows for the pool parties. Okay. At the 45 50. Oh, nice. We're talking to the guy over there. Um, I've seen him, uh, have like a DJ out there. One, only one day. I saw this once in the two years that I've lived there. So he's tried it.

[00:44:39] That's somebody's tried it, but that was the pre cause they recently, somebody new just bought, it's like a new ownership. Yeah. New ownership for the complex. Yeah. We talked to him about it. He's pretty much gave us the, okay. Um, we've got to serve up like a little paperwork, but do like a summer kickoff, uh, DJ with food trucks. We're kind of like going to manage the event or I mean, that's, that's, that's what we're talking about, what we're putting together. Um, so a couple of food trucks that we got the music, the lights, we got the whole lighting set up and everything.

[00:45:09] And then do like a, like a nighttime event kind of like afternoon, early evening, nighttime. Yeah. Yeah. Couple of nights, like Friday, Saturday, Sunday would be sick. Little three day event, something like that. That pool packs out. Like people would be sick. People show up there. I've been there for that. Yeah. It's fun. It's a good spot. I'll, I mean, I'll definitely show. And, uh, for sure. And if you guys have something outside of that too, that you want to help promotion, yeah, we could share it on DCPC, get the word out there. And then we do it.

[00:45:38] And then, uh, so we have the enterprise. Um, we have that website. Do you guys have a two goats website too? Okay. So we'll, we'll plug that. Is there anything else, uh, that the, that the listeners and viewers that you want to check out? Anything we need to drive traffic to keep a lookout for a mana. Yeah. Yeah. Keep a lookout. It's coming, huh? Stay tuned. Hell yeah. Like that. Stay sharp. Stay woke.

[00:46:06] Either, uh, try not to get hypnotized. Yeah. Yeah. Live life to the fullest. Don't be scared. Fear is only excitement. That's true. I like that. It's so, it's so close. Yeah. It's so many emotions. It really is. Good stuff. We'll have to get you guys back on, you know, I'll repeat gas. We'll check on how the music progresses and, you know, get you back on maybe tail end of the year or something. See what's going on. Definitely. Come out for that pool party. Come out for a visit. We'll be around, man. We'll be making little touches in the community. I like that. Just going around.

[00:46:36] I'm going to run into you guys. Yeah. Definitely. And you'll see us. We're always doing something, man. It's like the whole, every day is filled with like anywhere from 18, 16 to 20 hours. Sometimes more than that. Sometimes 48 hours straight of just making moves, just, um, working on different things progressively. So it's, it's, uh, it's dope. Oh yeah. Well, I am disappointed that you didn't buy the rotor that I offered. Oh yeah. I did some work. You tried to sell me that. I really wanted to buy the Jeep. Honestly.

[00:47:05] I did some more research on it. Apparently it's for Suzuki's or some shit. It's for Suzuki only. Yeah. Yeah. So if you, if you want somebody who needs a Suzuki. We do, we will definitely let them know. I mean, I'm into it. But, uh, great having y'all on. Yeah. Thanks for coming down guys. We're going to chat soon. And, uh, everybody tune in. Be good to yourselves. You deserve it. Tune in. Hell yeah. Tune in. Tune in.