Sue O'Callahan | Discussion Combustion Podcast | #252

[00:00:00] We'll have this discussion. Discussion, what discussion? This is a discussion

[00:00:04] Combustion. Coming to you from Denver, Colorado. This is Discussion Combustion

[00:00:10] podcast with your hosts, Kevin Batstone and Arthur Rawe. And then we talk all the

[00:00:17] time. So we're technically both professional doctors. Okay, okay cool. Which is

[00:00:24] fun though. Which is fun. And now did you always work in the field that you do

[00:00:29] now or like what led you to your current career path? So actually I've kind of

[00:00:38] traveled straddled two different worlds. I started working on Wall Street. I

[00:00:43] started working at Lehman Brothers back in the day and I was an institutional

[00:00:50] trader and salesperson. And then I left because I wanted to start a company,

[00:00:56] I just knew in my heart that there I just wanted to start something that's all

[00:01:00] I kept feeling and I just after about three and a half years I didn't really

[00:01:04] care anymore. And then I left to do startup luxury cosmetics. And I started with

[00:01:11] a pretty malnough brand and then I was like second person on there and then

[00:01:14] eventually moved and about a year later decided that if they could do it I

[00:01:19] could do it with a friend of mine. So we ended up starting a luxury beauty

[00:01:23] company. We launched it at Barney's New York and it became an international

[00:01:28] brand. We had to leave that because that deal didn't go. And then I ended up

[00:01:33] coming back on board with my friend, she built her own brand and ended up

[00:01:38] doing that. But at the same time I always had I was I was born super intuitive. I

[00:01:44] was the kid that knew when people were telling the truth not telling the truth

[00:01:49] it always really bugged me. You know when I would say people weren't telling

[00:01:55] the truth and you know just had that like intolerance of that kind of thing

[00:01:59] and then eventually when I was living up in San Francisco at the time I was

[00:02:03] working at Lehman, I started having these experiences where I would see

[00:02:07] somebody on a bus bench and they would look me in the eye and I would know

[00:02:12] their whole life story. Every feeling they've ever felt every horrible

[00:02:16] tragic experience, how they were feeling in the moment and it would take me a

[00:02:21] couple of days to shake it off. And then what ended up happening was I have

[00:02:26] what they call like the healing hands and so if I would touch somebody's arm or

[00:02:31] their body their body would they would you know start like get your hand off my

[00:02:36] body, your hands on like causing my leg to feel like it's on fire or my back's

[00:02:40] on fire. And so then I started training when was the first time you like ran into

[00:02:46] that. Like when you like touch somebody and then all of a sudden like do you

[00:02:50] remember the first time in your like a little like thrown off like what's going

[00:02:53] on with this? Oh I was like what's happening, I didn't I really didn't understand

[00:02:59] but I was being pivoted if you will by life like time to leave Lehman it was

[00:03:04] all happened around the same time. And so I just then I started like asking

[00:03:11] questions like okay what am I gonna do with this and how can I get trained

[00:03:15] and then I ended up training with one of the longest standing medical

[00:03:21] intuitives in the country. And she made me go and get additional training

[00:03:25] before she trained me. And so basically do you know what a medical intuitive is?

[00:03:30] I have never heard of that, I feel like I can kind of so...

[00:03:36] Good for my wing it yeah. Like you're in touch with your intuition however

[00:03:41] it's actually used in legit medical practice. Kind of so what happens is

[00:03:48] usually there's an understanding that with whatever disease or whatever chronic condition

[00:03:54] or ailment or personal anything that's holding us back or that has us

[00:04:00] thicker, unwell and in disease has usually a physical mental emotional spiritual component to it.

[00:04:08] And so what happens with the medical intuitive is you can go and work across from a medical

[00:04:13] intuitive and begin to get a better understanding like how did I get here? What are the

[00:04:18] what are the layers to my disease, my situation. And there's very specific ways that the body

[00:04:26] organizes life experiences. So usually before anyone gets sick the body will throw

[00:04:32] warning sign after warning sign after warning sign. Like you're out of integrity or there's

[00:04:37] too much sadness, grief, anger, frustration when kids are deeply...

[00:04:44] Those are like the warning signs. Those are some of the big ones. So what happens is you have one

[00:04:49] situation after another after another and you don't actually handle them you don't communicate

[00:04:56] when somebody's being inappropriate or disrespectful or antagonistic or anything.

[00:05:04] What happens is that the emotions that come up naturally as a natural reaction response

[00:05:10] to how somebody's treating you or what's happening it'll start to get suppressed into the body.

[00:05:16] And so the more that we have these experiences the more the first of all they get compounded

[00:05:22] and compacted in the body. And the body actually stores different emotional emotions in the body.

[00:05:29] So lungs for example, how's grief disappointment. This is also like if you look at Chinese medicine

[00:05:36] it's very similar. It follows along with the Chinese medicine and so that's often the reason why

[00:05:44] people smoke because the smoking soothes the grief and tell you can deal with it. So alcohol

[00:05:53] is housed in the liver. I'm sorry, alcohol is housed in the liver. Anger is housed in the liver.

[00:05:58] And so what happens is sometimes when people drink you get that really angry volcanic drinker

[00:06:05] because the alcohol kicks out the anger in the liver and then you know you can also get the

[00:06:11] sloshy-lovy, davi alcoholic drinker and that's like the alcohol actually kind of soothes the liver

[00:06:18] and soothes the anger that's there. So there's just a wisdom and a hierarchy to weigh the way

[00:06:24] the body stores energy and information. And the idea is that you want to eventually get to it.

[00:06:33] If you get hit by a life experience that's so overwhelming, an unexpected death, loss of a parent

[00:06:41] even a massive firing like if you get fired unexpectedly or you lose everything and

[00:06:47] you know it's like we kind of have to get our bearing and then we can actually start dealing with

[00:06:55] the emotions that actually were naturally coming up as a result of what's happening.

[00:07:01] So I never really come at any time somebody sits across from me,

[00:07:05] it's like we always want to come at life really gently. Like how'd you get here?

[00:07:10] If this is what's presenting, this means a lot of life has gone down for most people.

[00:07:16] Not always but usually you know there's a lot of life lived and that's the first part is we want to

[00:07:23] just be really compassionate and curious, you know how did I get here. And now what steps do I

[00:07:32] need to take to heal this completely so I don't have to come back here again? And there's ways

[00:07:38] to do that. And it's generally probably not with like pharmaceuticals. Exactly.

[00:07:46] Like the healing is without that. Yeah we don't need that garbage. That's good. I like

[00:07:51] when we started to dive into, we had two gals on our podcast about a year ago, the Biohacker

[00:07:55] Babes, they have a, it was a great show because we learned a lot about biohacking and doing things for

[00:08:01] the body that isn't necessarily what big pharma would recommend. For example, Campucha or probiotics

[00:08:07] or taking beetroot for high blood pressure which I do. And just finding other ways to go about it

[00:08:12] then just falling into the big pharma system, which a lot of folks are even on the mental

[00:08:16] health side where they just kind of throw drugs at the problem and don't really address what's going

[00:08:21] on underneath it all. So I think anytime we can peel back the layers and make people feel comfortable

[00:08:25] to talk about what's going on, that's a good start. Yeah 100%. Sorry. Oh no yeah no I, I mean I agree.

[00:08:33] It's interesting because kind of what's at like the foundation of what you're talking about here is

[00:08:42] that our thoughts make this huge impact on us physically. And if we're not really paying attention

[00:08:50] to like our thought process or like not feeding our body or like the echo chamber of the subconscious

[00:08:57] or not doing that kind of stuff correctly, then you could get like all these diseases or

[00:09:03] you know diagnosis of depression whatever it may be. And it's the power of the mind right? So I find

[00:09:09] that so interesting because I totally believe in all that and I believe that the fact that I

[00:09:15] believe it makes it more true for me but now hearing it back because I've everyone can find backup

[00:09:22] but talking to somebody that does this professionally and understands this concept is really

[00:09:28] interesting to hear about. For sure so that's kind of like what I was thinking on what you were saying

[00:09:33] there is just the immense power the mind has. It's incredible we're just scraping the surface too right?

[00:09:38] So you kind of you were laying out the timeline, you wore many hats, you were kind of on Wall Street

[00:09:44] which I'm curious a little bit about which we can get into later went into product design and then

[00:09:49] started to realize that okay I want to do something that truly have a massive amount of passion for

[00:09:53] something deep underneath that started to learn about all this where does the journey go from there?

[00:09:58] So basically I think part of what I found is like I originally started working with people

[00:10:05] that had they kind of like bunched up bundle people so I had a group of people that had autoimmune

[00:10:11] diseases and I got to understand how does that work. I worked with them with a group of people

[00:10:16] that had cancer and then suicidal addiction very intense and you begin to get a scent,

[00:10:25] an idea around it and understanding not even just an idea but yeah an idea too because no

[00:10:31] two people are the same so even if there's good information about biohacking and you know you're

[00:10:37] strongly intuitive. You have a good sense about what you need and where life is pushing you

[00:10:45] and it's really about you building confidence in following your own guidance and wisdom and

[00:10:52] information. So when I was working, I mean I can remember the one time working with a person that

[00:11:00] had cancer I could smell the cancer coming out of their body very distinct odor so you know

[00:11:07] I was just a student then I was just curious like you know how does somebody actually get cancer

[00:11:13] and different cancers represent different things so you know I'm actually you know I have clients

[00:11:20] that need to use pharma for their care and that feels right for them that's what they're

[00:11:26] interknowing and they're after talking to all the specialists next where it's like I'm more of

[00:11:31] the approach like let's come in from all angles and let's check all the boxes off so you don't

[00:11:40] have to come back and revisit this. I don't you don't want people living in their rearview mirror

[00:11:44] like wondering is this going to come back or is that going to come back or you know and we don't know

[00:11:50] so it's not really about it's just a curiosity and so one of the things I learned was that what

[00:11:58] we do every day has a massive impact on our health happiness it impacts everybody around us

[00:12:07] and so I really loved startup I love everything about it I ran sales ops I ran all sorts of

[00:12:14] divisions in areas and I used to work set like seven days a week with joy I've actually

[00:12:20] always felt like I had such a good run career wise and so part of what I pivoted to like I could be

[00:12:26] working more you know I've had divine intervention training very advanced protocols but I was

[00:12:33] always looking for the cut to the chase because I feel like people are working so hard and so

[00:12:38] diligently and so much time is spent that you know you don't I don't know I always felt I was always

[00:12:43] kind of a rusher anyway and wanted to get life on so I was always looking for modalities that help

[00:12:49] people get off as much life as they possibly can in one shot and that doesn't always work if

[00:12:55] you if you've got a really fragile situation then you were going to want to go more gentle path

[00:13:00] but for me I really felt that my calling was to help people figure out what do you hear to do

[00:13:06] what makes life so good so rich and so enjoyable that you just get up and you just love your life

[00:13:15] and you see how much greatness that brings to you and then like you know the idea with this

[00:13:22] tradition I'm working with right now is that you really fill up your own cup first

[00:13:27] before you spill out to anybody else like that's the considered the wise woman way or the great

[00:13:32] great mother like you're we're going to hear a lot about the great mother coming

[00:13:36] there's it's just a movement now in the healing world and the

[00:13:40] you know at this time because the way we're living is not sustainable you know the earth is

[00:13:47] sending up warning signs if you will so we're earth's going to make it and the earth's going to be fine

[00:13:52] but we just have to find ways to solve things and come together and solve things

[00:13:57] so I get a lot of charge out of helping people figure out okay like what do you what would your soul

[00:14:05] left to do now you know 2023 was a bit of a rough year it was tricky it was there was a lot of

[00:14:12] did you find that um I mean 2023 since 2021 it's just been growth years for me a lot of growth

[00:14:21] years so I wasn't impacted if that was like a universal thing happening in 2023 I mean there

[00:14:29] were some challenges that came as always but yeah yeah I mean I lost a level one in 2023 you know

[00:14:34] there's always gonna be some challenges in the professional world so yeah I think there were some

[00:14:37] bumps in the road for sure but we're still smooth sailing yeah so and part of it is that you know we

[00:14:45] will we are always gonna get lessons and there there's also out-of-it influences as well some things

[00:14:53] that we start to feel more deeply or personally that maybe we wouldn't have noticed in the past or

[00:14:58] you know just um picking up on other people stuff like the more uh intuitive you become

[00:15:05] the more empathetic you are it's like they kind of go a little bit hand in hand or maybe you're just

[00:15:10] super uh or call it empathic and you just like you walk into a room and you can feel oh this is

[00:15:16] good vibe this is good energy you know that's that's another skill set that I think a lot of people

[00:15:22] are coming more into and so they're beginning to recognize like actually no I don't think I

[00:15:27] want to go in that room or I don't want to go I don't want to go hang out there and you just kind

[00:15:31] of pick up and move on so a lot were I think more sensitive and more in tune than we've ever been

[00:15:37] and so the idea is really trusting that and listening to yourself

[00:15:42] so one of the things that I learned many years ago was that um where you work is super important

[00:15:50] and with whom you work when you're spending all this time doing it all this time

[00:15:57] so what I didn't realize at first was that when you go to work whatever your deal is whatever

[00:16:03] you're bringing like your emotional backpack your personal backpack or briefcase whatever you want to

[00:16:09] call it like you can't just leave it at the door the energy that you have going on inside

[00:16:16] is going to spill out into everything you do and it actually impacts the company you work for

[00:16:21] because there's actually a bioenergy field of for companies there's bioenergy field it's like a

[00:16:26] blueprint also for your podcast um for any kind of project or venture if you write a stong

[00:16:34] if you write a song a script a movie a book anything you create so this might be a little bit

[00:16:39] out there but it actually makes a lot of good sense we're creative beings we're energetic beings

[00:16:44] we have an org field that extends long beyond our physical body and so everything we create

[00:16:51] has an imprint from an energetic bio like a bioenergetic footprint imprint so when I was working

[00:16:59] years ago I started I was working with the an executive of a company and they asked me you know

[00:17:07] why isn't this division growing it's like oh I don't know let me ask some you know super intuitive

[00:17:12] I was born this way and I got a response and I was like oh my gosh like what is that

[00:17:17] and you know remember in Lord of the Rings the ants do you remember that movie yes

[00:17:23] yes the trees right yeah it had a resonance like that

[00:17:28] and it's it basically explained to me why the why it wasn't growing what was happening at the company

[00:17:36] and I was like well what are you this is a little bit out there for sure

[00:17:39] is like oh I'm the company I was like are you alive and it was like yeah my life

[00:17:46] and I was like what can we work on you can I work on you but like of course you can't

[00:17:51] so we and I don't know if this is someone you want to keep but so what we ended up doing

[00:17:55] is working on the company and somebody resigned the following week

[00:18:01] hmm like that's how interesting powerful it's super interesting so the so you were so you were like

[00:18:10] you identified like so when you were talking about you're working on the company

[00:18:17] like was this through like a like a self-affirmation that you were doing or like

[00:18:23] and like you were kind of listening to like this company this company's energy feeling this

[00:18:29] company's energy through like the intuitive network and I believe I believe all this stuff so

[00:18:34] it's not super far-fetched for for us here at DCPC like we've been in touch touch and open to

[00:18:40] this kind of conversation but basically you were in communication with like the company as an entity

[00:18:47] exactly and then and then through this you know concentrated thought process that energy

[00:18:54] that you're putting into these identifying the energy and this and that then somebody ended up

[00:19:00] resigning from the company yeah but we just worked on okay so basically what happened was

[00:19:09] was working on the bioenergetic footprint of the company and so because I had already been taught

[00:19:18] to work on anyone anywhere in the world I was taught how to bring up like you basically can call

[00:19:24] up anyone like I could be working on both of you right now as we're talking it's the way

[00:19:29] the future every I think in the future everybody will have a like a corporate healer because that

[00:19:35] way it just makes it easier whatever it is that you're doing and you know making sure that there's

[00:19:40] a unified message and there's good branding and good marketing it's like you're just clearing out

[00:19:45] the life that's happened could be from the very beginning when a company was created that maybe

[00:19:51] a little something went down or maybe you had there was a bad partnership or it's just you know in

[00:19:56] the case of the company it's looking out looking for when you do healing work so it's it's interesting

[00:20:03] to explain it this way you're calling up this bioenergy field and you can conduct energy into the

[00:20:12] bioenergy field that's looking for the highest and best good of the company so wasn't like working

[00:20:19] on a person right like you're kind of like I'm trying to put it in like lamens so it's like super

[00:20:25] okay like it's not easy to understand it's kind of like I could see it kind of being like a

[00:20:30] meditative thing exactly and you're being oh and you're being open to the company's energy

[00:20:36] the bioenergy exactly it's like it's there's a phrase where it's called distant healing

[00:20:43] okay and and that's basically it's part of it's there's this experience of since we're all in a

[00:20:51] unified field you can call it up and just blow goodness like and put in restorative nourishing

[00:21:04] empowering innovative inspirational energy into this bioenergy field and then let it do with

[00:21:11] what it will so a little bit of that sorry go ahead anyway it's just called distant healing

[00:21:20] distant healing okay so I'm trying to like I'm a kind of a visual person so I'm trying to you know

[00:21:24] imagine you use the one-a-movie analogy and I think of another which is avatar when everything

[00:21:29] is kind of connected to the planet I don't know if you've seen avatar the way the water came out

[00:21:33] last year but the original one like they would make connections and it was it was kind of an energy

[00:21:36] base in the way that you know they would intermingle was through everything was was connected through

[00:21:42] energy and I thought for me I'm trying to picture it as to what you're trying to lay out for us

[00:21:47] I see this I see this let me let me take another go at this thing here so so I believe like it's

[00:21:53] the subconscious network is like is like this database that everything is connected through

[00:22:01] like and that's why intuition works is because it's all part of like the subconscious database right

[00:22:08] and so basically what you're doing is you are like putting in a USB into like a computer and

[00:22:17] feeding positive energy into like this database but not as the database as a whole you're targeting

[00:22:25] one sector where energy is also being produced so you're like targeting a different ip

[00:22:31] from your ip right it's like I've kind of put it together like that no but I've done things like

[00:22:37] this because some of this work that I've seen and I learned in the power versus force the hidden

[00:22:45] detourments of human behavior was a really impactful book for me and the author about it talks about

[00:22:51] how they used to be able to do healing by harnessing certain essence within themselves on the

[00:22:58] collective level and I know you're familiar with a lot of this too so there would be people that

[00:23:03] would have mental health issues and in order to help these people he would just no communication

[00:23:10] just eye contact with love and like acceptance in his heart and in his thoughts

[00:23:18] and just having that love and acceptance in your inner aura would share it with those people and

[00:23:24] just by eye contact and having these type of emotions and focused energy on these emotions

[00:23:30] would help these people heal and also get over like cancer and stuff like that so things like this too

[00:23:37] so I didn't ever hear about it though and like companies or entities having that like bio energy

[00:23:47] so that's pretty interesting that's like another layer I've never thought about the juice right

[00:23:50] there but is that is that that what we're here's your target about are we getting to understand it

[00:23:56] no you're 100% have it and so like even if you look at the book like the power of eight did you

[00:24:01] read that book? I don't think I don't think I've heard about it by Lin-Mick Taggart

[00:24:07] is that the same guy that wrote better now or no? No different as that guard Toli shows how much I know

[00:24:14] that guard Toli and I did not read the power of eight okay so it's a great so the woman that

[00:24:19] wrote it is a woman named Lin-Mick Taggart and what she did was she was a journalist or something

[00:24:24] and she wanted to see if intention worked if you could actually all get a group of people from around

[00:24:30] the world and everybody had a positive intention I think one of the examples she brings up in her

[00:24:35] book is there was a high crime rate in Baltimore something like that and so she wanted to know

[00:24:40] if they could quantify if they could actually measure it and study it and prove that intention

[00:24:46] itself just the intention to make the world a better place or to improve sales for a company or

[00:24:52] whatever it is if it actually worked in her she did a lot of research and a lot of testing around

[00:24:58] it and found it's super impactful you can get miraculous results from it it's an incredible

[00:25:05] process actually to do a power of eight I think they found that if you pod up people in eights

[00:25:12] that eight I think I'm not 100% about this but that eight people in a pod seem to have it and

[00:25:17] especially powerful impact because eight is the infinity symbol also it's also very powerful

[00:25:23] symbols so you have different books that have done it or you have the quantum field so

[00:25:28] you know if you do quantum jumping they say in quantum jumping there's infinite

[00:25:33] immeasurable possibility or possibly in versions of you in the quantum field you can actually swing

[00:25:40] out into the quantum field grab an expert version of yourself that exists on a parallel I don't

[00:25:47] know if parallels the right word on some other plane you can bring it back in and bring that

[00:25:52] power into your life and learn to do something else or better do something that you're doing so

[00:25:57] you're 100% I love the computer analogy because I hadn't really thought of it like that

[00:26:02] but basically and I like the tree analogy I love that first avatar movie

[00:26:07] like the tree in it and just even the story they took us on because they you know made sure there

[00:26:12] was somebody in there that everybody could identify with and that was intentionally structured

[00:26:17] that way to take everybody on a on a journey it upleveled our consciousness actually that's a real

[00:26:24] structure I worked for a company called conscious good and they have a channel called seek good

[00:26:27] TV so it's like the kind of channel if you need a break after like a little call of duty and

[00:26:33] you kind of want to like get some good positive vibe movies they aggregate those kinds of films that

[00:26:40] just you know look at that that looked up level our vibration and in effect that's kind of what

[00:26:47] we're talking about like here is that you know everything we do impacts our vibration the food we

[00:26:53] eat if we exercise regularly you know meditating mantras or positive affirmations everything that you

[00:27:05] do including and also where you work who you hang with like if one of the messages I have for

[00:27:13] people is like if you're hanging with somebody that takes down your vibe or just I don't know

[00:27:18] is always kind of like a little comment or a little jib jab and you know it's it's one of those

[00:27:24] things where that that's impacting us and impacts our wellness our sense of self you know and for

[00:27:31] good reason people do it most of the time what I found is that people take shots because

[00:27:37] of the deep disrespect of their childhood so there's still there's still some emotional maturity

[00:27:41] that needs to happen if their parents were in emotionally mature their parents didn't you know

[00:27:47] take responsibility like they're having a bad day instead of being instead of taking responsibility

[00:27:51] they've unloaded on their kids when they get home or something along those lines you know

[00:27:56] when we don't take responsibility and say like hey I just had a bad day I'm so sorry I just unloaded

[00:28:03] on you and you know please you know take responsibility make amends if you will

[00:28:09] and kind of clear that out if we aren't if we aren't around people that are really looking

[00:28:17] to see the goodness in us and our cheeriness on to make our lives better and you know it's

[00:28:25] the kind of year where we might want to start paying attention to like who's up in our vibe

[00:28:30] who's up leveling it and who's not and starting to make some good choices you know and that also

[00:28:37] applies to work if you're working somewhere and you go in every day and you're like yeah I like

[00:28:42] my job but it's just the energy the company is different or it changed ever since so and so

[00:28:48] took over it might just be that life's telling you to pivot yeah it was great up until now but

[00:28:54] you're not the same person in 2024 you're not the same for all the work you've done for all the

[00:28:59] podcasts you've listened to for all the lives you've changed like when you look at the what the two

[00:29:04] of you are doing the ripple effect you're having is profound every time you post a new podcast

[00:29:12] that ripple hits like three people out your friends friends friends like that's like one of

[00:29:18] the teachings they do in mindfulness so you really begin to understand that just bringing that

[00:29:23] joy or bringing greater insight and awareness to the people that listen is having an effect on

[00:29:30] everybody in and around them their families their homes etc so the idea is like how do you bring

[00:29:37] more how do you put more juice in the battery you know what really inspires you what's lighting

[00:29:43] you up and you know if it comes to work and you know up until this year you're you know we can

[00:29:50] sometimes go down this path of like yeah but it was such a good job and I really liked what I was

[00:29:54] doing and last year was still okay but you know this is the year I would say 2024 is an eight

[00:30:01] it's a year it's an eight year and that's a completion year so that means some things are

[00:30:06] going to come to an end this year and that's okay you know it's more like paying attention

[00:30:11] to the signs on the road that say pivot so could be like what you did is that you got your day

[00:30:19] situations and then you pivot and start like a side gig something like that you know that's one of

[00:30:26] the options that's that's one of the messages that comes through is that you know we want to make

[00:30:32] sure that when life starts telling us like hey time that we don't like you know keep like our feet

[00:30:40] like keep dragging our feet in the sand if you will or you know we just want to start to pay

[00:30:45] attention to the signs and what are you noticing this year like what is coming what's naturally

[00:30:53] coming to an end so like I can give you a good analogy it's like what you know if you look at

[00:30:57] the apple tree which apples have fallen like yeah we're done we did that we've learned that lesson

[00:31:03] we've experienced that or you know this I feel like we've I know that I've know that experience

[00:31:10] now I don't need to keep revisiting it you know it's like it's really an important part of the

[00:31:16] process to just ask again and again like now what do I need now what lights me up you know it's

[00:31:24] springtime new time you know is there any sport you want to try is there new some some

[00:31:32] you know this is about like we need more and more people living their best lives

[00:31:37] it just will make it better for everybody if more and more people absolutely love what they're

[00:31:42] doing every day such a huge difference so true so I have a question for for you being as in tune

[00:31:50] as you are um and I'm gonna reference your analogy of like people have to refill their batteries

[00:31:58] how often do you have to refill your own battery right because I'm sure that there's even

[00:32:03] moments where you realize oh I could be more diligent or I haven't been as diligent um

[00:32:12] when was that I mean do you experience that like what does that look like for you

[00:32:17] well I I'm launching a new program in April and one of the messages I got was that I need to

[00:32:23] fill up my tank and that's what winter is usually winter is a time of you know you want to lean

[00:32:29] in you want to take it easy we're supposed to actually relax during winter we're supposed to

[00:32:33] rest and sleep like the animals and so what I found was that I changed my diet I went on a super

[00:32:40] highlight diet that was really important for me I started like lightning up and mostly eat vegetables

[00:32:48] right now and that might change I might start wanting to eat more meat or something in the future but

[00:32:53] you know I I started this morning practice before I actually get rolling where I just give myself

[00:33:00] a second to like just to feel this love coming in that just fills up my cup and give myself some time

[00:33:09] to like not put out as much because I'm always feeling like I want to give and do and that's just

[00:33:14] my natural way but taking care of ourselves has to be like has to be job number one in my opinion

[00:33:22] that's like the mother movement or like what was it the great mother

[00:33:25] the great mother yeah well I mean like you said you got to fill up your own cup before I can spill over

[00:33:31] and I think that's a good you know point echo as well and kind of going back to what you were saying

[00:33:35] about analyzing is this job right for me you know the people that I spend my time with you know all

[00:33:40] those things need to be analyzed a little bit because you know we talk a lot about I talk a

[00:33:44] lot about complacent boulevard on the show and it's an easy place to be it's nice cozy smooth paved

[00:33:50] street you know it's pretty it's easy you know it what's that Bob Seager song down on easy street

[00:33:56] let's replace a boulevard right so making those decisions are hard for some people I feel like to

[00:34:00] maybe 86 somebody that's negative out of their life or whatever that may be those are tough

[00:34:05] decisions to make so I guess it's like when people ask me to have it you know how you just so this

[00:34:10] way and you know black and white no shades of gray that's just kind of the kind of guy I am but

[00:34:14] at the same time you know I still balance because there's people that maybe I wouldn't choose to

[00:34:19] spend a lot of my time with but they still get value at a maybe my presence so how much of that

[00:34:23] do I need to analyze of I don't want to completely 86 this person because maybe I'm impacting

[00:34:28] their life a little bit maybe they need to hear me today oh I'm an agreement on that and think

[00:34:34] the one thing we want to just talk about is you know it's okay to okay if this thing needs to go

[00:34:41] it's okay too you know we don't have to yeah some people need to 86 people in their lives if

[00:34:46] we could be honest there's some people that are hanging out with people that are just not bringing

[00:34:50] out the best of them and sometimes that's a good thing you know it can be sometimes especially with

[00:34:56] family you know sometimes I notice that family says things and I think why would you say that

[00:35:04] you wouldn't say that to your friends you wouldn't say it at war you know and there's

[00:35:10] sometimes this is permission to be not so cool so I think in those cases we just want to make sure

[00:35:16] we're speaking up for ourselves and just being authentic with like no that's not cool you know

[00:35:23] hey don't say that to me or don't I don't know if you realize this you know you know

[00:35:28] we don't have to be jerks we just be straight and that's the cool thing about being black and white

[00:35:34] with no grays that people know where you stand you know if you cross the line you're gonna say

[00:35:40] yeah no you know you're just gonna call him on it and at the most you know sometimes the best

[00:35:46] advice is actually just to start listening start paying attention start noticing like wow I hung out

[00:35:52] that person and you still really have fun and I just don't anymore you know it's just it does come

[00:35:57] down to choices and sometimes you know that quiet and that's that silence that takes place when

[00:36:03] you stop hanging with somebody might be just a silence and quiet that they need to suddenly

[00:36:07] realize like gosh nobody is really hanging out with me right now and you know the the only message I

[00:36:14] have is that at a certain point when things get when I was staying in the beginning like you know

[00:36:20] experience after experience where some but you know you have difficulty after difficulty and people

[00:36:24] have very can have very difficult lives you know they're it is real this this is no joke of a

[00:36:31] of a life experience and you know at a certain point we might just get to a place where we're like

[00:36:38] I just I don't want to feel like this anymore but just can't take it anymore and sometimes that's

[00:36:43] what it takes is then you start you know going to yoga or you start taking a run every day or

[00:36:49] you start listening to this podcast or you know it just depends sometimes it's the smallest

[00:36:54] tiniest things and but it's everything it's just that inner decision and and you probably both

[00:37:01] know really well you make that decision and you're like I'm not doing this anymore I know I'm not

[00:37:06] gonna feel like this and that's the key thing is that some people have had such a rough hand

[00:37:12] dealt to them that you know they could spend their whole life suffering and just not being in a

[00:37:17] great place and people would be like yeah I get it if you knew his story if you knew what she went

[00:37:21] through but this is our life you know we want to live our best lives and we want to do what we love

[00:37:28] and enjoy and do the things that only we can really do like we each have a gift to give and many

[00:37:35] gifts for some people you know they're really here to impact a lot of lives so you know like one of

[00:37:41] the thoughts I had when I was thinking about your podcast is you know there's a there was this

[00:37:47] software company that it was called circles or something like that and they started having people

[00:37:52] you know you could you would do like a it was almost like a power of eight like you could pod people

[00:37:56] up in eight and one person or I probably could probably do ten or whatever number you decided on

[00:38:01] and you know what would happen if maybe your community decided that they wanted to start circling up

[00:38:06] and you know maybe just have somebody they could talk to about it is like they're they're listening

[00:38:10] to what you're talking about and they're feeling it but maybe you know I notice in my community I've

[00:38:15] a lot of young people they just don't fit in they're so sensitive they have this heightened sensitivity

[00:38:24] they wish that they could better relate to people around them or if they're going through changes

[00:38:29] or they're trying to figure things out or they maybe want to go talk to somebody or or try some kind

[00:38:35] of a therapy or try some you know people are like I don't know why you would do you know it just

[00:38:39] doesn't fit with where their friends or their community are they do need somebody you know I

[00:38:44] I can see that being a real extension for the two of you and creating like a thriving

[00:38:52] community where people can you know have come have company have connection like

[00:38:58] you know I talk a lot about like there are some real post pandemic pandemics and one of them's

[00:39:05] loneliness and isolation and people are really disconnected it's really uncomfortable when

[00:39:16] you're in that position too and like you're kind of just dealing with it and you're not enjoying

[00:39:21] life and you know it's just like like in what's the point but here's the thing is like when

[00:39:29] you're in that mindset you're going to perpetuate that mindset and so at some point or another

[00:39:35] like what you said like you have to hit your own breaking point and that's different for everybody

[00:39:40] and then and then you have to get uncomfortable and and that's really the thing that like I think

[00:39:46] most important is you have to get out of your comfort zone in order to actually get into a change

[00:39:54] and not like because people have these ideas and we've talked about this a bunch on the

[00:39:59] discussion a bunch but people have these ideas and they want to try to do stuff and they want

[00:40:03] to make a difference in their life and then they go to to start this endeavor and then they quit

[00:40:09] two weeks in they quit three weeks in yeah because they're like they want to get back on

[00:40:14] complacent boulevard right they want they want to put cruise control back on and have it easy going

[00:40:19] again and the thing that's made the biggest change in my life was constantly challenging myself

[00:40:25] getting myself uncomfortable and seeing what I am actually able to accomplish and I did that

[00:40:31] by filling my own cup first and focusing on my own needs which I totally agree with what you're saying

[00:40:38] yeah so there's a lot of important lessons there but it's it's breathed over so quickly and

[00:40:43] and like yeah the gray sucks like we're you don't see color in a day like that sucks but

[00:40:48] you know what you just got to you got to deal with the suck for a little bit and stay dedicated

[00:40:52] and actually committed to it before you're going to see a change how many years

[00:40:57] did it take you to get to this worst bottom pit how many years did that take you well it's probably

[00:41:02] going to take you to about the same amount of time maybe if you're really accelerating maybe

[00:41:06] a little bit less to get out of it right so that's that's that's really the advice I would want

[00:41:13] to put out there yeah and I grew up that into piggyback off that because we were kind of talking about

[00:41:17] some of the younger community as well Sue and you know especially folks that you know went through high

[00:41:23] school during the pandemic from their house and not having to you know senior year experiences

[00:41:27] of prom and stuff like that we're kind of really seeing a lot of the effects of that now on the

[00:41:31] mental health and then of course the the zooms and face timing all those things offer tremendous

[00:41:36] value in business and family and stuff like that but at what point has it gone too far and it's

[00:41:41] making a huge impact on social interactions so you know these kids now are kind of grown up in an

[00:41:46] instant gratification world and seeing overnight TikTok stars and there's a lot of other variables

[00:41:51] now that you know art night didn't have to deal with growing up certainly that now they're face

[00:41:55] with and so having social interactions have changed so much you know and it's like it that's

[00:42:00] that's a tough one because that's all they've known since basically they've been old enough

[00:42:04] to walk they've had some sort of device in their hand and so that's where it's changed a little bit

[00:42:08] and then you know on this side of it as podcasters we're trying to motivate and influence

[00:42:12] but at the same time they're still looking at us through the same thing that I'm criticizing so

[00:42:15] it starts to kind of get a little a little weird on how I try to present it

[00:42:21] well and the other part is like what I always say is like if you're going to be uncomfortable

[00:42:27] might as well be uncomfortable having the stuff come out you know all the guilt or the shame

[00:42:32] or the discomfort the anxiety like some people are so anxious now that you know trying to sit

[00:42:39] and meditate or trying to calm their inner self like it's it's too tough so first step might be

[00:42:45] like going out for a walk or getting a trainer or whatever it's like you know you kind of have to

[00:42:52] deal with it as you just said one step at a time you know and that's one of the things is like

[00:42:57] anxiety is really high right now across the board and you know we just have got to deal with it

[00:43:05] that's why you know I keep kind of saying like that's more people that kind of are touching on

[00:43:12] this and bringing this to to the greater audience's attention the better it's going to be because

[00:43:19] we want people to enjoy their life and have fun you know even fun is so underrated now

[00:43:26] it's like I feel like you know it's it should be so central to our lives and now it's kind of in

[00:43:31] the backseat somewhere after you know COVID I mean I work in you know I work with kids and during

[00:43:38] the pandemic you know you had kids so worried that if they picked up COVID they could give it to

[00:43:43] their grandparents or somebody who was vulnerable or whatever I mean that's a really heavy burden

[00:43:52] yeah for any young person to carry so it's like how do we also lift that out of everybody you know

[00:43:59] so there's just there's lots of different ways to bring change and that's my biggest

[00:44:04] message is everybody in your audience has an incredible change to make has an gift to give it might

[00:44:11] be to inspire people it might bring might be you have like some of the best marry makers in your

[00:44:15] community and their job is to like just start bringing more and more fun every day to everybody in

[00:44:20] their life you know bring back some you know sense of humor I feel like people lost their

[00:44:26] sense of humor too it's like I was on a call the other day the guy said something super inappropriate

[00:44:31] and hilarious and I just watched everybody's face was so straight and I was like oh my god that

[00:44:36] was so funny but you know it's like calm on you know it's time it's time for you know a change

[00:44:44] to happen and you know I think that uh one of the things that we can do actually is you know I

[00:44:51] want to talk a little bit about maybe some exercises like if your audiences is out there listening

[00:44:56] and they're like well I want to know what I'm here to do how would I do that how would I find out

[00:45:01] you know it's really true we get messages in a thousand million different ways I heard you all

[00:45:06] talking about angel numbers you know sometimes you look at a clock and you get a message or

[00:45:11] clocks is 111 or 222 or you know something like that or you know messages can come on a billboard

[00:45:19] it can pop up as a video and YouTube that just like like answers your question and all of a sudden

[00:45:24] you're like oh that was for me you know so one thing I recommend is like if let's say you know

[00:45:30] your audience are you regularly exercise you can just set the intention because intention is a big

[00:45:36] part of how healers work I'm calling up this company I'm calling up this individual that's on the

[00:45:42] other side of the planet that's got a real situation going down they called me to work with them

[00:45:47] there's no limits to what can happen it's very powerful healing is very powerful and so is

[00:45:52] intention and as you pointed out mind and thoughts and like when somebody really has a momentum like

[00:45:57] I'm changing this I'm doing something I'm not gonna do this again next year I'm gonna figure it

[00:46:02] out by the end of this year by December 31st 2024 I'm on I'm gonna have it figured out and I'm

[00:46:08] moving forward like that's powerful so you know you can set an intention when you go out for a run

[00:46:16] just one thing I need to do today one thing I need to do differently this week that moves the

[00:46:19] needle on me being a service or me living my best life me doing what I really want to do all the time

[00:46:27] full time one thing and then you kind of let it go it's again like the way of the great goddess if

[00:46:33] you will the great great mother a great goddess great mother is it's it's like you don't have to

[00:46:39] try so hard it's like the balance that we're looking at that's gonna it's gonna be a huge as I

[00:46:44] said a major theme that's coming up is that what's missing in society is that we're not getting

[00:46:50] enough wise counsel we're not taking the time to like how would this really solve this problem for

[00:46:55] us and then based on wise solutions that are pragmatic it makes sense then we take action that's

[00:47:04] really what the balance is that we're looking for so what you're learning and what you're doing right

[00:47:08] now both of you in your different ways is like finding out how do I get my own inner aha or you

[00:47:16] know like their neurons in your in your gut there's no there neurons in your heart so there's a

[00:47:21] knowing in your gut it's not just gut instinct it's knowing so it's like your gut starts saying she

[00:47:29] like I don't think I'm gonna do that anymore I think I'm gonna get a different trainer I'm gonna go

[00:47:32] actually I did that for the last three months I need I need variety I'm gonna go work out with this

[00:47:36] group it's it's continuing to identify more and more of your inner tools because everybody's got

[00:47:43] inner tools every single person everywhere so that's kind of the idea so you can send an intention

[00:47:50] like I like any kind of like especially people who swim or run or bike or do rigorous like any

[00:47:57] kind of rigorous exercise where there's a lot of regular repetitive like the breath work

[00:48:03] it's it just clears everything it clears the palate so all you're gonna do is you're gonna clear

[00:48:09] it and you're just gonna be like let's see what I get let's just see if I come out the other

[00:48:14] side I might have a great idea for the movie you maybe one of you has a movie in your mind from

[00:48:21] one that I learned from Kevin here was mo look you might not know what you want to do you might

[00:48:27] not know what like is actually your purpose like let's say somebody doesn't know their purpose

[00:48:33] but you sure as hell know what you don't like and and that's one that kept really taught me a lot

[00:48:39] well as as well is that you know you start just removing things that you don't like in your life

[00:48:44] and then all of a sudden what's left are things that you actually have value so I think that's

[00:48:49] a good lesson too um that's excellent exercise so the intention of just cleaning out I'm just gonna

[00:48:57] clean out all the things I don't like um and another piece of advice I got from one of my other

[00:49:03] friends is when you have started seeing success and you are elevating your life experience

[00:49:11] um you're gonna have to change specific things because what you did to get you to the level that

[00:49:19] you're at now is not gonna work to get you to the next level right so you can't like and like

[00:49:27] I hate to say it like this but to me it's the truth is like there's there's no finish line

[00:49:32] like when I die is when it ends and like that's the commitment that I made to myself

[00:49:40] um when really focusing in on my health journey and like that one was tough right because it's like

[00:49:48] oh I have to stay diligent every single day for the rest of my life you know and like sure

[00:49:54] I have some skip days I have days where I lose my patience just earlier this week on Monday

[00:49:59] I completely lost my patience and like hammered some stuff into oblivion and like I like just kind

[00:50:06] of lost my cool there um and it happens but I was able to recognize it I realized how I could have

[00:50:12] prevented that in the future um so we're also susceptible to slip you know um allow the slips yeah

[00:50:20] right I mean so when we set the bar too high that's one thing I learned I still you know deal with

[00:50:25] anger management to this day it's probably one of the most difficult things to overcome in my life

[00:50:29] which is funny because it ties into alcohol and you mentioned the liver that's a whole another story

[00:50:33] but um you know it's something I have to be conscious of every single day and it does creep up

[00:50:38] and it creeps up you know and sometimes like art has a good quote you know choke that demon out that

[00:50:42] demon is going to knock on the door and you're gonna let it in or you're gonna say you're not welcome

[00:50:45] here and so it's constant battle of course every single day so you don't look different for everybody

[00:50:51] I think but the the important thing is that you've hit on suit and I think that what we try to do here

[00:50:55] is just to constantly bring awareness to it and have conversations about it normalize it

[00:50:59] what works what doesn't work you know you can kind of said in the beginning when I was talking about

[00:51:03] biohacking like great at that works for you it's I think the important thing is knowledge is power

[00:51:07] and we've you know succumbed to maybe just tunnel vision on one thing where it's maybe better

[00:51:11] to look at all the opportunities on the table that's that's one of my big takeaways from this conversation

[00:51:17] yeah and I think even with biohacking like you know the great thing is that you have people that

[00:51:21] experts are experts in that that do ton of research I love those people I'm always like going

[00:51:27] online just to get like what do you know about protecting cognition or you know long-term health

[00:51:32] or I'm I'm a fan of all of that it's the idea is that they're gonna give you all this information

[00:51:38] and you're like you'll know which one like oh that's one I want to start with just sometimes it's

[00:51:42] sometimes it's just one thing you do that's different the other thing is there's a great book called

[00:51:46] um it's called The Presence Process by Michael Brown I recommend that book a thousand percent I've

[00:51:52] done it five times one time I had to do it for anger I just had so much anger and I have kids

[00:51:57] and I didn't want to be the mom who was you know constantly unloading on my kid so I did one whole

[00:52:03] like the only intention I had was to address all of the anger that was there for me and it's a 12

[00:52:09] week process you read the book he explains it really well he does he had like cluster migraines or

[00:52:14] something like that and they you know his doctors were like we can't we've got nothing we don't

[00:52:18] know how to fix it and I guess he couldn't go on anymore meds or I can't remember so eventually

[00:52:22] unpacked it and got rid of it and then he wrote a book called The Presence Process the only thing

[00:52:26] I would say on that book is like it's intense so if you do it if you do it do it with somebody else

[00:52:33] so you have an accountability person who's like well it's just it's the book it's like this

[00:52:38] it's the process it's setting you up it's like that's part of their their phrasing is that

[00:52:42] their setups and whatnot because what can happen is if you can unpack all the way down to its root

[00:52:48] cause there's no more the anger that will arise going forward is appropriate and anger is a great

[00:52:56] response when it's appropriate it's whenever people have an inappropriate reaction or response

[00:53:01] to things that we start going like okay there's something else there's some past previous life

[00:53:06] that's impacting you're like when somebody goes crazy on you you're like okay well you know I just

[00:53:11] got my blinker on I just turned a right I don't know why you gotta get so upset about like

[00:53:16] you know it's like we know the difference we don't we don't even need to go any further on that but

[00:53:21] the the idea is that you can you can unpack the all go all the way down to the root cause

[00:53:28] and then those buttons go and then you suddenly you're like I'm I don't really I'm not noticing

[00:53:33] as much anger coming up now in fact I just feel lighter across the board now that I've gotten all

[00:53:39] of these different layers out of the body it can all come out that's the great news

[00:53:47] but you're right it's like you are not going to feel super uncomfortable I mean super comfortable

[00:53:52] but you might as well be uncomfortable with it coming out then being uncomfortable trying to keep

[00:53:57] it out shoved down yeah just let me just sit here and and deal with feeling uncomfortable

[00:54:03] every single day or I could get slightly more uncomfortable and start you know taking the

[00:54:08] proper steps to to make that impactful change um yeah it's it's crazy so do you believe in reincarnation

[00:54:18] do you think that's real well I'm somebody who can see on the other side

[00:54:25] so I have I can't I can't stop it so there's there's just people that are wired like that

[00:54:33] so for me it doesn't make sense this is my logical suit telling you this doesn't make sense that I

[00:54:39] would be expected to get it all in one shot even though I feel like I've slayed the dragon this lifetime

[00:54:45] kind of thing I just think somebody's got to be the dark character for somebody to be the light

[00:54:50] character and vice versa and we play these roles for each other and I just see my experience with

[00:54:56] God and it's been so forgiving and so caring and everything I you know I was raised in a very

[00:55:02] religious household and I was a lot of woodish at a like heavy and I just it's not my experience

[00:55:10] it's like yeah I'm just doing my best job and I think that I you know I just think that there's

[00:55:19] got to be a way for us to be able to come back and try it again and I don't think you're necessarily

[00:55:24] like okay ding you know you cross over and boom next week you're coming back in I think you've

[00:55:29] got to take a little bit of time I'm a I'm very interested in all the work that Dolores can

[00:55:33] and is done I don't know if you know her but she really explores that subject she's got some

[00:55:38] cool books some really out there books were even for me I'm like I don't know about this because

[00:55:43] I again I just like to stay in like I like the stuff I like but she's done some really interesting

[00:55:48] and she was she's no longer she passed away but she just seemed like a tough bird from

[00:55:55] like Arkansas or somewhere I don't know but in her if you listen to any of her stuff online

[00:56:00] I think she was just exploring the subject I think they stumbled on it her husband was like in

[00:56:06] the military and he was trained by somebody in the Philippines or something like that and you start

[00:56:11] to she started doing this work and then I guess you know you got an accident and she took it over

[00:56:16] or something but it's her work is so interesting and after listening to her I don't think she was

[00:56:22] trying to sell anything she didn't seem like a oh and get my program or go buy my books it's like

[00:56:28] even recently she you know they're I think they're still publishing some of our stuff is the point

[00:56:33] and so I just I don't see I think I have my experiences of a very forgiving and loving and supportive

[00:56:41] God and yeah so it just doesn't make sense I can see how maybe how it that narrative got removed

[00:56:51] from the larger conversation but that's not my that's not my understanding it's not my experience

[00:56:59] so that's my answer to you yes I do believe in it um and it is definitely layers and conditions

[00:57:06] um yeah I don't know because like I do you know what we're physically made of has always existed

[00:57:17] and will exist in another form you know even when we like you know do our business like we're passing

[00:57:24] this stuff along and like things are happening but we have this like mental energy and biosphere

[00:57:30] and all the stuff that what you're talking about that is an energy and and where does that go when

[00:57:37] the physical is gone where is that mental energy where has that went that has that went into

[00:57:43] another life you know even if it isn't human you know another essence of life has it you know

[00:57:50] went into like I don't know there's a lot it's a curious subject to me and that's why I had to ask

[00:57:57] you that question because I was just you know I knew you'd have some sort of opinion on it

[00:58:01] okay can I say my teacher the one I referenced in the beginning she told explain it to me that

[00:58:07] the soul the soul is what comes from God and that gives us our co-creative power

[00:58:13] and that soul is only like two ounces is what she told me so you need a physical body on a

[00:58:18] on a planet that's governed by gravity to hold down to how is the soul so my understanding is

[00:58:25] like I really am somebody who can see things that might not be visible to everybody's eyes and

[00:58:31] it's not it's not something you just shut down I think I shut it down when I was younger but

[00:58:36] it's back on so the way I see it is that people go into soul form you just the body goes we leave it

[00:58:44] the you know the cemetery or the you know however and then we go into a state of grace

[00:58:54] and we get a chance to like how I do how kind was I how generous was I how forgiving was I how much

[00:59:02] for how much making amends did I do you know for all the people I heard you know it's I think that

[00:59:08] that's the currency I think when all is said and done from what I understand and what I know

[00:59:13] and I can tell you one thing I used to meditate every day for weeks and months and years like I was

[00:59:21] super diligent almost like a monk for many many many years I would just sit quietly and when I could

[00:59:28] I would just sit in silent meditation so I I'm not an expert I'm not trying to pretend like

[00:59:35] I'm not trying to be an authority on anything I just know that there seems to be a state of grace

[00:59:42] and we get to actually see the goodness that we brought forth and then we learn also like okay well

[00:59:50] I didn't do so well on that and okay lesson learned or what do I what I need to do differently if I

[00:59:57] were to come back I don't think you have to come back I think it's more of a choice

[01:00:03] and so I would agree with that could this be like my first life or like has you know

[01:00:10] like what if I this was and no comeback this was just the first go or something

[01:00:14] it could be either you know is that it's hard to say yeah it was one of those fun conversations because

[01:00:20] it could go a couple different ways you know but I kind of agree with all the points that are being made

[01:00:25] you know I think it is a little bit of a choice you know you pop in the DVD of your life at the end

[01:00:30] of it sit back with popcorn go all right well I probably could have done that different or

[01:00:33] go back and try that a little different maybe I'll drink a little slower in the next lifetime

[01:00:36] or something like that that's kind of how I view it you know I think that's yeah that's

[01:00:43] that's just the way I see it till now so one thing like when we were talking about exercises so

[01:00:49] I was saying like if you're gonna work out setting an intention what do I need now what am I

[01:00:54] here to do what you can also do the same thing you can ask for it also like one way to get really

[01:00:59] good guidance and information including answer to a question like the one you're asking right now

[01:01:04] is like is this my first go around you know you can ask it like right before you go to sleep they

[01:01:10] call that like the liminal state so just as you're about to fall asleep you set the intention like

[01:01:14] hey in my dream time tonight I would like a clear message or answer to this what am I here to do

[01:01:21] is this my first time around is this my last what am I here to learn in this lifetime

[01:01:25] like that's one of the services I offer I do a personal deep dive with people it's like

[01:01:31] what are the lessons what are you here to do what would make your life at this stage so much richer

[01:01:37] and better you know and because we wanted to get better and better that's the point of it

[01:01:43] it's not like you're supposed to like you know like some people there's like there's like

[01:01:47] there's some good literature around people that they think they peek at unhigh school or college

[01:01:53] and you'll notice that they are always talking about like what happened in high school and what happened

[01:01:57] and you're like oh man no you got to lift off you catch your 20s and your 30s your 40s 50s it's

[01:02:03] getting better and better it's supposed to be supposed to be easier because the more work you do

[01:02:08] like the work you two are doing the more you unpack that old stuff most of the stuff you're carrying

[01:02:14] is probably from family you know kids are light they want to lighten up their parents

[01:02:22] they if your parents are having a tough time and you're a little uh a son or daughter

[01:02:27] you will do anything to lighten their load and so what happens is a lot of kids take on their

[01:02:33] parents stuff and so what you're usually doing by getting to like your most powerful loving engaged

[01:02:42] you know excited and innovative you know inspired self is returning or releasing that which was

[01:02:49] never yours in the first place that you took on you know now in school you might get it from comments

[01:02:55] or in elementary middle school like that's a whole other area or from work I mean that's another

[01:03:02] thing I noticed about work is like sometimes people are just not cool at work and you're like

[01:03:07] who gave you permission to be a total jerk at work you know it's like that still counts

[01:03:14] like you can set people up and be so cool at work and you can also be so opposite of that

[01:03:19] so I don't know where wherever I don't know when somebody thought it was okay or got permission to

[01:03:26] like not be cool at work because people are trading their valuable time to go in every day

[01:03:33] for the company they work for like that's a huge exchange

[01:03:41] so I mean let's just say this I'm just going to circle back so we can do you can do like intention

[01:03:47] setting before your workout you can ask a question like you know again just how do I get my

[01:03:52] own answers okay I'm driving my car I want to know like don't do it when you're driving but though

[01:03:57] like you do a quick exercise and you guys can try this yourself so if you go ahead and close your

[01:04:01] eyes I'm gonna teach you this is a lesson this is a exercise in learning how to communicate

[01:04:07] telepathically and that's how we get messages from the other side not always but sometimes

[01:04:12] so if you close your eyes I want you to imagine that you just literally walked into your house

[01:04:17] and you walk through your front door to your bedroom and I want you to imagine

[01:04:24] that you go to the hopefully there's a window in your bedroom that you go to the window

[01:04:28] in your bedroom I want you to lift up the window imagine yourself lifting up the window right now

[01:04:33] and I want you to look outside and see especially if there's a garden or

[01:04:38] or you have your backyard but I want you to look and see if there is an animal that comes up

[01:04:47] near your window like put your hand up if there's an animal okay so all I want you to do

[01:04:54] is ask the animal its name

[01:04:57] and when you get the name assume you made it up because that's the way mine works it's always

[01:05:10] like telling us that we're making our stuff up that's okay redrick okay

[01:05:16] of a falcore okay mine was a rabbit too I saw you have it yeah yeah I was thinking about

[01:05:24] a falcon there was a bunny at the hawker something there was a bunny hopping in the grass okay yeah

[01:05:29] okay do you see you just did that right there you could literally do that exercise when you're

[01:05:34] just kicking it in bed before you go to bed when you wake up you could literally just imagine

[01:05:38] yourself lifting it up and like hey what do I need today what am I here to do you might get an

[01:05:43] you might get one word two words you might get a sentence you might get a visual you might

[01:05:47] hear something you never know but the more you seek it's this is all about developing

[01:05:54] muscles new new exercising new muscles that are part of your intuitive empathic cells and just

[01:06:02] your commitment to bringing goodness to the world and really leaning in and you never know how

[01:06:09] you'll get your messages might be one thing your friend says well I will tell you that Kevin

[01:06:16] I in the first three months of this project which is now five years old the first three months

[01:06:22] of discussion a bushing we knew we're on something that was could have an impact and so we came up

[01:06:29] with a mission statement and the mission statement for discussion combustion is to include anybody

[01:06:35] and everybody from all walks of life so that way it doesn't matter who you are like you're welcome

[01:06:41] here um and then we also want to be critical so we could ask difficult questions but then we're

[01:06:48] also accepting and we're also loving so we don't corner our guests even if we disagree with you

[01:06:53] we're still going to accept that there's a disagreeance and we're going to be loving about it

[01:06:58] and with that mission statement we have moved forward and continue that mission statement

[01:07:05] for the for the duration of this of this program that's what it was and I feel like that has made a

[01:07:11] big impact because we actually knew what we were doing opposed to like if you're just going after

[01:07:17] something and you don't like have an idea of what you're doing you're just doing like sure you might

[01:07:23] be able to find you might be able to find it there you might be able to just stumble across it

[01:07:27] and and doing something's better than nothing regardless even if you don't know exactly what

[01:07:32] but having that mission statement I feel like really helped impact the trajectory for how our

[01:07:38] interactions went with guests and um how we treated it yeah well and just you're constantly reminding

[01:07:45] of why we do it too you know why we do the because I can you don't call this work why we do the work

[01:07:50] that we do is because we enjoy it we love to create we love to be ourselves um have these real

[01:07:55] conversations that not everybody gets to have and hopefully someone that gets to listen or view

[01:07:59] can feel like they're a part of it and you know that all that is is kind of speaking for me personally

[01:08:04] as well I love doing this kind of stuff having these real conversations because yeah well maybe you

[01:08:08] can sit down next to someone at an airport and have a fantastic conversation which I've had tons of

[01:08:13] you know but doing it in this light really I think opens up a door for a lot of other people to

[01:08:19] also get some value out of it and uh for me personally it's it's my calling I love doing it every Wednesday

[01:08:24] night um and the other nights of the week on other shows you know and so I think that's a

[01:08:30] constant reminder because you know even five years in so we've had times where it's like should we

[01:08:34] keep doing this do we want to keep doing this is it worth doing this and the answer always all roads

[01:08:38] lead back to yes well let me give you a couple of tools so you can just have this for going forward

[01:08:45] first of all you can the two of you can set the intention to like just imagine for a second

[01:08:51] okay there's a bioenergy field for our podcast you can just put goodness into it like just like

[01:08:56] imagine like the most beautiful could be a color it can be good vibes it can be whatever you want

[01:09:02] or like hey this is I feel like this thing wants to evolve now maybe it's time for it to get bigger

[01:09:09] maybe it's time that we actually send the message like okay we're five years in we got a good rhythm

[01:09:13] we know how we work you know one of the biggest missions I think has been a theme and an important

[01:09:19] mission is bridging the divide there's so much division and there's people making money off

[01:09:25] the division in this country it's horrible you know it's like that in my opinion that's one of the things

[01:09:33] that nice fam call that's one of the things that you know we just have an opportunity

[01:09:45] to bridge the divide and to really give people a chance like everybody's got a side it's cool

[01:09:52] that that's your platform just to be loving yeah there's differences it's like you know I'm not

[01:09:59] I'm not trying to sell anything here it's like you know it's like that's how I experience that

[01:10:04] situation that's how I was like oh okay you know I'm just curious how can we do something a little

[01:10:11] bit differently that brings you know puts our arms a little bit more broadly around the world

[01:10:15] how can we bring a little more comfort how do we bring somebody in especially people that are

[01:10:20] just like I got to do something differently here you know this isn't fun anymore it can be such a drag

[01:10:28] you know so you know you can do you can imagine like you know put on your favorite album best

[01:10:35] album of all time like that's a question I always have for people I think to myself

[01:10:38] wonder what album has impacted their lives more than any other album where I was like

[01:10:43] guys squeezed all the juice out I can't even listen to it for a while it just completely upleveled

[01:10:49] me my experience like that kind of maybe put on the ultimate album and the two of you just get

[01:10:54] together and just like boom let's just put this thing in and then let's just see

[01:10:58] how this thing wants to grow and evolve in 2024 you know you can do that like let's say for example

[01:11:05] your your dating somebody and it's not going that well or you're just like you know everything

[01:11:09] you say something and it's like boom next you know it's like they took it the wrong way I'm

[01:11:12] just making this up I'm just putting this out there for everybody listening you know you make a

[01:11:16] salad you could literally just put your hands over it just be like okay let's style this back

[01:11:22] I don't know put something in the salad let's put a little goodness in there a little judge

[01:11:26] let's shake it up a little bit that's not what I meant maybe I was not in the best place but

[01:11:31] it's not worth ruining the night or the weekend or whatever anything you set your mind to

[01:11:37] especially when it comes from the heart and it's just you put that love in everything can

[01:11:43] you know you can really bring dramatic shift and change and that's an effect what you're doing

[01:11:48] in people's lives every day and that's the cool thing because the more you show up to you

[01:11:54] that energy is in your podcast that's what you need to like if I could just emphasize that to

[01:12:01] the two of you all of your own and the way you're so honest and the way you self-reflect

[01:12:08] and you choose authenticity you're not trying you're just like yes I'm experiencing it I'm just

[01:12:14] talking about what happened what I went through what I've done or I see it you know that gives

[01:12:22] people permission to be so authentic in their daily lives that's the cool news we need more

[01:12:29] authenticity because there's so much like you kind of said this earlier it's what reminded me is

[01:12:35] like you can find anybody to backup anything you say now if you think some something went down or

[01:12:40] this person's doing that or this group is there's so much stuff on the internet

[01:12:46] pretty sure somebody could back that up so now it's like what's real and what's true and

[01:12:50] that's connection that's being real with people that's gathering up people like the way you are

[01:12:57] and it's also super it's super exciting I mean Kevin I have received these type of accolades before

[01:13:04] and we're always just so humble about it because you know it's it's we're almost doing this

[01:13:12] because we love hanging out and talking to each other so much as friends but it is always a great

[01:13:17] reminder and it's almost like you know there's like a responsibility now that we've built it

[01:13:25] you know like there's like a responsibility to this almost which I'm more than happy to continue

[01:13:31] to fulfill with you man that's great but um no you go just reflect on the journey because it's

[01:13:39] kind of cool that we're having this conversation because we just kind of hit a milestone in this

[01:13:42] journey with you know hitting 250 episodes this is going to be episode 252 and we were kind of

[01:13:47] thinking about what do we want to do for the next you know we changed the logo we're kind of

[01:13:51] switching some things up same flavor same awesome discussions you know same authenticity that

[01:13:55] part's never going away but you know it's it's a good opportunity to reflect and look at things

[01:13:59] and I think the biggest thing I take away from it is the networking piece and the people that

[01:14:02] we now we met or the people that we've potentially helped you know that have reached out and said

[01:14:07] had just need to hear that today you know Sean Antonio comes to mind we got in touch with him because

[01:14:11] we had an idea to get a chef on the show which led to this which then Sean gave us all these other

[01:14:15] great guests with them now led to Sue and I think that part to me is is just incredible when you

[01:14:19] really tap into what it's not you know what I get out of it and what personally you know the satisfaction

[01:14:25] of coming here and doing this and then in learning I mean I learned a lot tonight and that's the other

[01:14:29] big takeaway so I got let all this marinade now because I like to learn I'll probably listen to

[01:14:33] this back but I guess the point I'm making is it's good to reflect too you know I like to reminisce

[01:14:37] like we're going forward of course but let's not forget how we got here and I think it's it's just

[01:14:42] good to reflect on all the successes and look at where it's going and enjoy the ride enjoy the moment

[01:14:47] because this was a fantastic upset flew by look down so we've been almost an hour and a half

[01:14:52] oh wow that's amazing no it is great and free success energy everyone has free success energy because

[01:15:00] at some point in the past you accomplished something and you did something that you thought you

[01:15:05] couldn't however you've given so much great advice this evening Sue and thank you for that but

[01:15:13] if you were to dial it in and give one piece of advice just one piece of advice to help the entire

[01:15:21] world so everyone could be better tomorrow what would that one main piece of advice be

[01:15:32] I would say make amends I think one of the greatest gifts we can give each other is when we just

[01:15:37] say hey I'm sorry I really am so sorry about how I handled it or what I said or what I

[01:15:44] it's I think it's one of the most healing components I notice the people that are really

[01:15:48] still struggling like maybe they didn't get it from a parent before they passed on or you

[01:15:53] know are just ruined a friendship and if a little sorry or a little like hey my bad you know

[01:16:00] I I'm a big fan of kindness and you know the beauty of Sean and Tony was like yeah and I we

[01:16:05] gather up every other week just love life you know just want to make it want to give people like

[01:16:12] seriously soak up soak this up it gets better you can clear it out and move on and enjoy but at the

[01:16:19] end of the day like I feel like a lot of people are hurting because they just didn't get that gift

[01:16:25] and I've been the benefit of it my dad was an AA my dad was an AA for 41 years and I'm like one

[01:16:31] of the luckiest people I know because he came background and he just was like I am so sorry

[01:16:36] just could not apologize enough and that was just like all the healing I needed in many ways like

[01:16:43] you can't can't take things back but you can definitely change the trajectory of what happens going

[01:16:49] forward so that would be mine that's good advice you know to to make a man's for sure and I was

[01:16:55] like to say one of the greatest gifts you can give someone is the gift your time and so I want to

[01:17:00] thank you for giving us the gift of your time yeah thank you um okay so a couple things

[01:17:07] if I know this is gonna end so I did get messages for both you guys okay I do I do that kind of

[01:17:13] stuff so I'm gonna text it to you I think I have your numbers and I just probably need oh no I know

[01:17:17] I have your number numbers individually yeah but I do want to just tell you to you're moving mountains

[01:17:25] I know I said that I wanted to say it while I was on air so hopefully you'll keep it

[01:17:30] and cut off the other stuff if it doesn't work or whatever and it's really true about that company

[01:17:35] thing I was like it felt like an end I was like it was like this like slow moving energy and I was

[01:17:39] like what are you I was so perplexed because I if I speak telepath if I get a message from a human

[01:17:47] it's very very like it's it's lighter it's like you yeah this is what's happening this is why I'm

[01:17:52] not doing well or are might get a message from the other side hopefully this isn't going on but

[01:17:56] the the point is that when I got that message from the company I was like are you alive like I

[01:18:02] was so what is happening right now well and it was like oh I am I'm like oh can I work on you

[01:18:08] and I was like yeah you can't so if that's too much out there you know that and also it's great

[01:18:15] we're probably we're probably just gonna send all this because I think I think it's really I think

[01:18:19] we keep it authentic yeah the offense to the authentic piece and um you know even when we mess

[01:18:25] up we like to send it because it's okay to make mistakes oh absolutely no like it's it's all right

[01:18:30] to do that yeah absolutely I think we keep it for sure so we which we will and we'll chat a little bit

[01:18:35] more once we do close here Sue but before we go on air here is there anywhere you want to direct our

[01:18:40] viewers listeners anything you want to include social media anything we'll include that in

[01:18:44] showing us as well any plugs oh okay so people can find me at suo calehan.com and there's no G so

[01:18:51] um and I know you'll have that down in the notes I also made it a point to go into branding and

[01:18:55] marketing over the past couple of years because I was always in all things business but I just

[01:19:00] noticed that there were a lot of people that have really cool products and services and they

[01:19:04] can't market themselves and they're not telling people like just how much better their products are

[01:19:09] either making somebody's life or they're solving a problem or inspiring greatness or whatever

[01:19:14] so I also have a separate site called um soulful marketing and it's soulful and then dash mk tg

[01:19:20] that's another one of my websites and I do have a youtube channel suo calehan I'm working on

[01:19:26] that right now I'm getting messages on what people can do I'm starting to post those this week

[01:19:31] you know what people can do to take care of the earth right now went even in a time when it feels

[01:19:36] like governments aren't taking enough actions and enough steps like we got to take care of this

[01:19:40] planet we have a responsibility and you know the more mature we become in life the more we see that

[01:19:47] as our responsibility and just taking a little step so I'm giving a weekly video to everybody

[01:19:53] just so that there's a sense of like okay well I can do this and this is going to have an impact

[01:19:57] and what people probably don't realize is like everything you do every even the tiniest gesture

[01:20:04] of kindness the tiniest can care consideration has a massive effect that's something we aren't taught

[01:20:12] and that is that is for real so anyways those are my social media this is my little plug

[01:20:21] I love it and thank you so much oh our our pleasure I mean I can tell that your energy readings

[01:20:30] are through the roof through the zoom call so I could I couldn't imagine actually being face to

[01:20:36] face and like the impact that you have on people that you work with personally in the same room

[01:20:42] love what you're doing for humanity and I'm really curious about this message so yeah we'll

[01:20:49] we'll be staying tuned um into our uh well we're gonna stay in touch regardless with you Su

[01:20:55] your and our network no get it back on and like another year or so we always like to touch base

[01:21:01] because then you know we're buddies we've talked already before we're friends yeah and hopefully

[01:21:04] next time we can do it in person if you're out for a visit in Colorado get you on the couch over there

[01:21:08] we got a nice spot right here for you yeah 100% and also I didn't say this like for people that know

[01:21:14] that they're they're here to make a difference if they're interested in the course I'm doing a beta

[01:21:19] test so it's gonna be an abbreviated version it's called set for life but there'll be a full year

[01:21:24] program uh starting the end of uh november something like that so that's also on my drop down at

[01:21:30] suo caliand dot com but just giving people heads up like some people know they heard it but they're

[01:21:35] just like I just don't know what it is I I'm so interested in so many things so just putting that

[01:21:39] also on people's radar but yeah we'll touch back and then also because we're friends you can text

[01:21:46] me if you have a question and you're like hey um I'm I'm not feeling it right now I'm having a

[01:21:52] tough time I'm in a rough patch and I can't seem to find my way out of it so in me a text I'll take

[01:21:56] a look at it all of mostly like I'll clear it out if there's like a little energy pack that's

[01:21:59] right there that's just like this old energy that's just stuck and it wants to hold on and

[01:22:05] it's got you by the throat or you know has you in the heart and your heart just can't seem to open up

[01:22:10] you just give me give me a text and I will gladly take a look at it and we'll clear it out

[01:22:15] awesome so you're an epic person thank you all right listen thank you so much for having me

[01:22:22] yes thank you for being on Kevin thank you for showing up on time great to see you actually didn't

[01:22:27] beat me in today we showed up at the same time yeah that's good uh listeners who's yours thank you

[01:22:33] so much for all the support uh please check out su and all the work that she's doing get involved

[01:22:39] and we can make this full of better place together it's right we're gonna keep this train moving we'll

[01:22:43] see on happy friday tomorrow so thanks again be good to yourselves you deserve it