Steph Monge | Discussion Combustion Podcast | #287

[00:00:00] We'll have this discussion. Discussion? What discussion? This is a discussion. Combustion. Coming to you from Denver, Colorado, this is Discussion Combustion Podcast with your hosts Kevin Batstone and Arthur Rawe. It's podcast time. My favorite time. It is. So we have Steph here with us. And we met you through Miranda. Quick backstory.

[00:00:31] Miranda, our listeners are not familiar with. They will be next week. She'll be on next week. So we're going a little out of order there. But yeah, thanks to Miranda. We got in touch with you via social media, which is a tool that I will praise this week. I usually bash it, but a great tool for networking and getting a guest opportunity. So just kind of thumbing through your stuff. Looks like you do some amazing things. So we thought you'd be a great fit for the program. And here you are. I'm here. Thank you so much for having me. Yeah, shout out to Miranda for having me and just like introducing me. I love the work that y'all do. And I think it's yeah, let's get into it. Let's have this conversation.

[00:01:01] Yeah. So were you did you hit the gym today? I hit the gym today. Yeah, you know, I did. Yeah, it was lower body day. It wasn't easy. I did deadlifts. I think I hit a new PR, which was really exciting. I did a 130 pound deadlift. Wow. Okay. Yeah. The Romanian deadlifts. What's the that's the so I did on the Smith's machine. So it was like a little bit more assisted.

[00:01:27] A little bit more leeway to like a little more stable. Yeah. So I'm not, you know, messing up my joints and stuff. But no, it was cool. I love the gym. Gym's been my life lately. I've been doing the 75 hard thing, but I've been calling it a 75 medium.

[00:02:10] Okay. I've always felt very inclined and very attuned to speaking about that because of my own experience. Right. Just being in a bigger body and having to have that narrative with me throughout my life and just rewriting that narrative constantly and feeling empowered to embrace the body that I'm in right now. And also in the same breath, you know, tried and like dismantle and break those beauty standards that we have out in society. So now how long has this been in existence?

[00:02:40] So I opened up embodiment. Ooh, it's been, so I made like a little pre announcement of January of 2024. Okay. So it's been about a year, but I didn't really have my first, first event, like in person event until, um, I want to say like October before that September.

[00:03:03] Um, it just took a while to figure out, you know, when you're first like trying to open something and it's something that's like, I mean, I'm very intentional. I think very critically and deeply about things because I want it to be sustainable. And something that I've always thought about is, um, in my full-time works, I work in philanthropy and we're always thinking about community, how to work with community and not necessarily empower community, because I think there's already a lot of power in people in community.

[00:03:30] It's mainly connecting you to the tools and the resources so that you can create and cultivate your own power and keep your power going in whatever ways that shows up for you in your life. So, um, that's why it just took me a while to get embodiment out there. But, um, and I had to like constantly check in with myself because I think hustle culture made me want to like always constantly putting something out, but I, I'm happy that I took my time with it because it's cultivated.

[00:03:57] I'm sorry. It's, uh, been something that's just been sustainably coming to life and I get like little pockets of creativity here and there and ideas on how to continuously, um, amplify the business and the space. So I call it a community space. Um, but yeah, that's, that's what I do. And what really inspired that again, going back to the whole body narrative story, um, just my own experience with my own body and also, um, being a model.

[00:04:25] So I'm a plus size model at Wilhelmina. So I've been doing that for a couple of years now since 2022, I believe. Um, and I've always just wanted to go deeper with things. I feel like I'm like not a surface level person at all. I'm like, yeah, that's a cool goal. How can we go deeper? Yeah. And this is a cool concept. How can we go deeper? How can I create something from this and, um, incorporate my creativity and my passion?

[00:04:49] And again, my own story, because I'm a strong believer that if you're not creating something that's going to directly benefit yourself and something that's not going to either switch your mindset or help you become a better person, um, then why like in a way create something that you're going to be offering to community members or some other people that are taken. And like, I want to be like in a way for a better lack of word, like that testimony of like, yes, this is the type of work that I do. And it's worked for me. Um, come with me along on this journey. So.

[00:05:18] So there's, that's the mission you got to drive. Is there like a mission statement with, with this, this program that you're, you're building? Yeah. There's multiple mission statements, but the one that I'm always continuously coming back to is rewriting the narrative and dismantling the norms. Okay. Um, it's yeah, because it's like there's, and that can be multiple things, right? Like, um, but in this case, it's a body narrative.

[00:05:40] The current body narrative that, um, anybody really has is, can be rewritten and you can dismantle the norms that society has placed upon you to believe about your certain body. Um, me, you know, I'm a woman, um, specifically a Latina woman. And I think that there's also cultural norms that come into just my body narrative and the way that I viewed my body growing up.

[00:06:07] So there was this one moment where I just kind of told myself, like, I wanted to do all of these things. And I felt that I always had to change my body or change the way that I look in order to go for those things. Right. And I realized that that was holding me back. And I'm like, I know, like, that's, that's bullshit. Right. I don't want to do that anymore. Um, I don't want my body to be something that's restricting me from doing the things that I want. So I just went for it all.

[00:06:34] Well, when it sounds like that was, uh, what you've come to realize was a self restriction, like, right. Cause, cause like you were listening to the societal norms and like what we, what society claims to be normal. And it's, it's like having this acceptance of yourself to be able to actually enjoy reality. Like in a sense, is that, is that kind of like what you're talking about?

[00:07:00] That's, that's on track. Um, because I think we're our own worst, like the worst critics of ourselves. Right. And I think, um, there's obviously like different factors that go into it. Like there is like media, right? Like media consumption tells us like, do this workout in order to look this way or like eat this meal in order to lose weight and so on and so forth. But, um, I think, um, we are in a lot more control than we think we are when it comes to our bodies and our mindset. We just need to be connected to the tools and resources to help us get there. So yeah, I, yeah.

[00:07:30] That's a good, it's a mental game too. It is a huge part of it, you know, and, and, you know, you mentioned like how the way we treat our bodies, like I'm not a big pharma guy. I don't really subscribe to pharmaceutical stuff. So I'll take natural products like apple cider vinegar, garlic beetroot to combat some of the things that big pharma would normally do. So that's kind of part of my world. I like to kind of, you know, and like taking immunity shots and stuff like that to keep my immune system healthy throughout this time of year. Um, and just taking that kind of approach to it. Like, I guess biohacking is one way to describe it. I've heard it worded as that, but.

[00:08:00] Yeah. It's the mental battle, right? That's the huge piece and getting over, you know, our own worst critic. I mean, we've been doing this a long time. So I hear a lot of feedback about being a podcaster and you just got to let that roll, but controlling what we can control is what it really comes back to. Right.

[00:08:12] I agree. I mean, rooted in reality. Yeah. I am on a, I love your mission statement, breaking the societal norms. And one area that I've been focusing on recently is all these stereotypes behind marriage and relationships and, and how relationships should go. Um, so I'm recently married.

[00:08:39] Okay. I'm so happy. And I believe that actually, I don't believe I'm going to say this to the camera forever honeymoon. That's, that's what I'm going to do is a forever honeymoon. And like, why did, do, do marriages have to fizzle out? Like why do relationships need to lose value? Like, why is the, why do people feel like, Oh, you know, married life or like all this stuff.

[00:09:06] And sure. And sure. I'm a newlywed. So people would be like, yeah, but you haven't been married for X amount of time, but it's also like how you think about a relationship or how you think about your body or your diet or your health that plays into how it actually unfolds.

[00:09:24] unfolds. So I, I do completely subscribe to like this mentality. Your mentality is your life. Like perception is reality. And even though like my perception might not actually be 100% reality, like it could be for me. Right. So it's like, that's still like a realm of reality. And I just think, I just love that. And because it's like, who made these societal norms anyway?

[00:09:53] Yeah. How did we get here? I mean, social media is a big piece. Yeah. Who, who said that this is how it should go? Yeah. I blame Disney princess programming. A lot of that, you know, the, the, the nineties when, you know, E and a lot of these, you know, swimsuit illustrate, a lot of these things started coming out. I think that put a lot of pressure on women. I think it's just been a societal evolution of it really. I mean, your opinion on what do you think?

[00:10:15] Yeah, I know. I agree. I think society has a lot to do with it. And I mean, there, I'm sure that there is like some sort of resource or knowledge or education out there on like what even started all of this. Like, you know, there's terms that I've explored, like, you know, when it comes to like fat phobia and dismantling like those mindsets and concepts.

[00:10:34] Um, but I remember you just reminded me when I was growing up, I think that, and probably even like my sisters, they experienced this a lot more. There was this term called heroin chic. And it was like in the early thousands, I want to say. And it was when just like celebrities, like actresses and singers and performers, they were just very, very thin.

[00:10:56] And that was the standard, right? Like you are considered beautiful. You are considered like hot and sexy if you're like this type of body type. And I think that they labeled it heroin chic because they started realizing that maybe some of these folks were like doing like substance abuse in order to obtain that weight and maintain it, right? Like anorexia or like bulimia. Yep. The body eating disorders. Really unhealthy things. The eating disorders. Exactly.

[00:11:21] So I think about that and I even think about where we're at now, like fast forward to 2025. There's been a lot of change when it comes to the quote unquote body positivity world. And the, I actually like popular to contrary, is that the saying? Popular to contrary belief or sorry. English is my second language. There's some things that like sometimes don't. You're doing great. Okay. That might still do too. Okay, good.

[00:11:47] But, um, so I think, um, the body positivity, body inclusivity, body empowerment space has definitely evolved since then. And it's been very much like, you know, you have more women and, and I say women only because I'm not exclusive to just women, but I think that I naturally attract just like a community of women. Um, so I'm just going to say women for women. But just know that my work is inclusive.

[00:12:12] Like any gender can come through and partake of, you know, embodiment. But right now it's, um, women. So I think women, um, have naturally just started to showcase their bodies a little bit more. Like, you know, now we see a little bit more roles and a little bit more cellulite and a little bit more curves. And there's, and I think it's beautiful.

[00:12:33] Right. But there's also like a little voice in the back of society's head still, right. Where it's just kind of like, where am I going with this? Where, yeah, that's great and all, but I still want to be this certain kind of aesthetic.

[00:12:47] So going back to the body positivity thought, um, part of it, I don't promote body positivity in the ways that a lot of other, like, again, body positive, body inclusive creators, influencers, and, um, organizers do.

[00:13:06] So I don't think it's realistic to be body positive, body positive every single day. There's going to be days where you don't like your body and that's okay.

[00:13:18] And so instead of body positivity, because I think body positivity is another kind of topic and narrative that they're just pushing on women. Like you have to love your body. Like you just had a baby. You have to love your body or you gained weight. You have to love your body. And I think that it can get very tiresome and it can get incredibly unrealistic because again, there's going to be people out there, which is like, actually, I don't love my body right now.

[00:13:44] And I always tell folks, you don't have to love your body right now, but you have to respect it. Right. And I think that's where body neutrality comes in a lot for me. That's the one thing that I'm always constantly saying. Whenever I talk about my work with embodiment, I'm always going to bring up body neutrality because it means instead of sitting here and criticizing my body and telling myself that I don't love my body right now, I'm going to appreciate and respect it for what it does for me in the moment. Right.

[00:14:12] Like I respect my body because it was able to get me to this podcast today. I respect my body because I woke up in the morning. I respect PR record today. Yeah. Thank you. Right. I respect my body. And that's why like gym culture trying to switch that narrative too. Cause I'm just like, I deserve to take up space in the gym also because I respect my body because I'm strong as fuck. Like, you know, I deserve to also look cut. I deserve to also gain muscle and like, you know, showcase my strength.

[00:14:41] And yeah, I mean, body neutrality has been something that's been much more realistic for me because a couple of years back, I mean, I even think about like why I even started modeling. I'm like, well, I want to see more bodies that look like me. I want to see body representation. I want women to know that they can wear this pair of jeans because I'm wearing them and they find some sort of like similarity in their body like with mine. Right.

[00:15:04] Right. But I had to constantly tell myself that there's going to be days even in the modeling space where I sometimes didn't show up particularly loving my body. But again, going back to the, okay, maybe I don't feel like the greatest right now, but I'm doing this for a mission, right? I'm doing it as a statement and I'm going to be neutral about it. You know what? It's cool. We're just going to do this today and we're going to celebrate after.

[00:15:28] And then I think having that mindset shift really helped me and just continuing to go. Right. Because I think I never want to be a bullshitter and kind of be like, yeah, I love everything. Yeah. People can tell if you're fake. Yeah. And I'm like, I don't want that. I want realness. I want depth. Authenticity. Authenticity. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. We got to bring back authenticity.

[00:15:53] Authenticity. And I think that's a good way to, you know, a good way to start and a good approach to it, you know, in the world we live in now, we hit a lot of those points already. You know, I think the mental game is huge for sure. Like, and you're already doing that. Just showing up is half the battle. Maybe I don't want to do it. I don't feel like doing it. You got to do it anyway. Yeah. I think attendance is key because if you can at least get moving, I think you got a better shot at getting some results, you know, getting to where you need to be, showing up for work, going to the gym, whatever it is. It's so easy to talk ourselves out of it. And then that's the spiral, right? I'm too lazy. My body's no good.

[00:16:20] And then it's those negative affirmations and then it's just a black hole from there. So I think, you know, we talk a lot about positive affirmations on here and being kind to yourself and constantly reaffirming yourself. I'm strong. I'm healthy. I got this. I'm beautiful. Whatever it is. Those kinds of messages, those simple changes in day-to-day behavior, monumental results. It does something cognitive, right? You like naturally just start thinking that way about yourself. Something that, so with embodiment, I do this body neutrality work in a couple of ways.

[00:16:51] The most recent way and the one that's kind of had a little bit more traction, which I'm really happy about is movement classes. So, so far I've collaborated with local fitness studios. A couple of them have been Haven Hot Pilates, SoulCycle, which is a really big one and StarCycle. So my goal is always to go into a space where typically everybody is thin, right? Typically everyone has a little bit more money to spend on the class too.

[00:17:21] You know, it's, it can be, it can be very, um, culty. Like, you know, these like stereotypes that we hear about like cycling classes and Pilates, like how it can become a little elitist at times too. And there's like a specific type of aesthetic that you need to bring into the space. I'm like, no, I want everybody up in there. I want big bodies. I want like people to jiggle on the bikes. I want you to let it all out and just be yourself and just move your body.

[00:17:47] And through these movement based classes, I'm like, you can show up however you want to show up as long as you are moving your body, because there's so many other benefits to moving your body besides the aesthetics, right? Like I actually talked about that today on my Instagram story. Like I saw a video of a woman saying, the more that you move your body, the less likely you are to develop dementia.

[00:18:09] And I think that we forget the, the long-term benefits of like, when it comes to the health and wellness world, the long-term benefits of just moving your body and showing up as you are. And like, there is athleticism in all of us, right? Like if you have a body, you're an athlete, just simply put, you'd be surprised of how much you can do with your body. And I think having women attend these movement based classes, I really like hearing like the aftermath of it.

[00:18:35] Like, right? Like, oh my gosh, like I forgot how much I love moving my body. I'm going to go to the gym this week. Or I forgot how much I love cycling. Like you really got me back into it. Or I've always been scared to try something new. Thank you for creating a space for me to come and try this out. That's awesome. Yeah. And I've been really, really lucky. He, these instructors that I've been able to collaborate with in these fitness studio spaces, they're just wonderful people and they get it.

[00:18:58] They're like, you know, at the end of the day, like I think when you have that fitness instructor mindset or even a personal trainer mindset, you view a body as like this, like, in a way like this vessel, right? Where, I'm sorry, this vessel where you're just kind of like, I just see you in your body. Like, I'm not judging you because you're overweight or because you're not strong or because you're not cut. You're just a body and you're here and you're just trying to improve yourself or you're trying to do something new. And yeah, I think that should be celebrated. And that's what I do with the movement-based classes. Okay.

[00:19:28] Well, I think also like as a personal instructors or whatever, or that whole thing, they probably see so many people start and then quit. And then so like what you're saying, attendance, like you actually show up, like that's a huge thing. Just to change your habits and your routine enough to make life interesting. So go try like the Pilates, go try the cycle class. And I like the neutrality thing a lot too.

[00:19:55] There's actually a lot of positive energy behind the word being like the mentality of actual neutrality. That is letting go of predispositions and allowing it to exist, like whatever it is, and being neutral enough to allow life to happen. And, you know, you get people who are critical of their appearance on all sides of the spectrum.

[00:20:25] You might have somebody that's in the gym seven days a week, super cut. And like they look like they're super attractive, but then they are probably in their own head, like, you know, talking negatively and might have like body dysmorphia. So like to have that neutrality is an important piece, regardless of like where you're at on your health journey.

[00:20:47] I think it's really important to have that neutrality and like to give yourself a safe place to accept where you're at. And that way you can actually like start making the changes and treating yourself good along the road. I did see your Instagram story on the dementia thing. That was interesting. Yeah. Makes sense. I recently just finished an audio book.

[00:21:13] I don't know if audio books count toward the 75 hard, like if you have to read it or if you can listen. Between you and I, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I just finished one on super communication, like how to be a super communicator. Oh, wow. And so whenever I find some good information, I want to share it. I already shared this with Kevin. But it was saying that people who are less social and don't have a social network and don't have any meaning there.

[00:21:40] If they're non-social, don't have meaningful communication in their 50s, then more likely they would get dementia and like all these other ailments in their 80s. And so like having like that kind of community is important because it also gives people a chance when they might be isolated. And especially with their thoughts and like a free space to talk about, you know, their insecurities freely.

[00:22:07] Like, you know, it's creating a community and a safe place for people to actually be social as well. Which also having a meaningful social network has all these health benefits associated with it, too. So like you're like you're like attacking a couple different areas there. Yep. Thank you for calling that out because that's what it feels like, right? Because everything starts with our body. Again, going back to the body and empowering the body and liberating the body. It's like we get to experience that.

[00:22:36] We get to experience our interactions and we get to experience just how we move through life. So I think it's really important to constantly check in with our bodies and honor what it can do, not necessarily what it looks like. Like, and again, kind of like I know earlier we mentioned like you are like the whole concept of you are your own worst critic. It finally hit me. I'm like, I don't really think anyone's checking for me. Like, oh, Stephanie is a bad person because, you know, she's a big girl. Like I kind of had to let go of those mindsets a lot, too, because I'm like, I don't think people are noticing that. And that's just my experience.

[00:23:06] Also validating that maybe that experience is different for somebody else. But yeah, just like highlighting that. Yeah, that's a good point. So going back to the business side of it, like how the route to market and what that looks like, you touched on kind of the movement stuff. Do you offer like coaching? Is it like customer acquisition? And how does all that come into play? So I do offer one-on-one sessions. I do coaching sessions. We'll call them coaching sessions, but they're really not. I think they're mainly just like check-ins.

[00:23:34] Like if you need to talk to somebody about like your body and your body image and how you want to. And I use this word lightly, like confidence, because I don't teach anybody to be confident. I think inherently we all have confidence in us. Again, I just want to connect you to the tools and the resources and empower you to step into your confidence. Right. So I do offer that. Another aspect of embodiment is journaling.

[00:24:01] So we do a lot of literally like rewriting the body narrative. Okay. So we have a, I had a journaling event a couple months ago back in October, I believe. And what we did is we just, I showed up with a couple of prompts that I think will literally prompt you to think about your body and where you're at in your journey and hold space for it. And I think it was such a beautiful moving space. I love the touchy feely things just as much.

[00:24:30] I think that all of us in that space release something that day. And the prompts vary from like, you know, what, like, what was the moment that you were becoming like hyper aware of your body? Or what's one beauty construct that you want to dismantle? You know, what's a cultural, like social construct that you feel like is embedded into you and your body? Like, how do you want to rewrite that? So they're really, really intentional questions. Um, so there's that.

[00:24:57] And then there's a lot more exciting things that are coming up that I'm not going to disclose quite yet, but you know, whoever's this weekend. Yeah, maybe, maybe, maybe something going on this weekend, something like that. Yeah, we'll do something. But, um, yeah, hopefully those that have listened, they'll, they'll tune in and, um, because I'm, I'm actually really excited about this. Um, it's, it's more of a intimate kind of experience, like a more one-on-one with me. And we'll just say that it has to do with a gym.

[00:25:26] Um, okay. So yeah. Yeah. There's enough info there. People love a little mystery. Yeah. You want to draw, you know, draw the dots and paint the picture. But one thing I like that you touched on is you say you don't teach confidence, but you kind of encourage people to what we call own it. Right. So one of our missions is to own it, own who you are, own your body, own your mission, own whatever it is. Because once you can do that. Own your mistakes. Own your mistakes. You got to own all of it. You got to own the bad and the good, not just the good. Yeah. Yeah. I like that too.

[00:25:55] Um, I think so when it comes to the confidence thing, and this is just something that I've noted throughout my life. Like I've, a lot of people have told me like, my gosh, Stephanie, like you're so confident. Like, how do you do it? And that's a great question. Cause I'm like, wow. Like how do I do it? Like, I don't think I'm showing up confidently. Like I'm just being authentic. I'm just being myself. Right. And, um, going back to the whole, like, I think confidence is within all of ourselves, but the moment that we own ourselves.

[00:26:22] And the moment that we show up authentically and we, um, are empowered within our own story and journey. That's confidence right there. And specifically in the modeling world. Um, cause I, I don't really mind when people are like, oh my gosh, like a term that I hear a lot that I try to rewrite with folks is, I wish I was as confident as you. And I'm like, okay. Like, thank you. First of all. But also like, you, you know, that you have confidence within you.

[00:26:52] Like, what are the things that make you feel good about yourself? Like, think about the last moment that you did something and you're like, damn, like that was really dope of me to do. That's confidence, you know? And you have to take note of those moments and you have to, in a way, like write those moments down. Like those really feel good moments about yourself. And that in itself is confidence. And that's why, again, going back to the, I don't think I can teach anyone to be confident because my perception of confidence and the things that make me feel good.

[00:27:21] Those are personal to me. So confidence just looks different on everybody. I agree with that. Everyone's kind of dealt a different hand or in a different walk of life. But I mean, under the same umbrella, it's basically the same thing. I mean, we all have it within us. Everybody has the ability to own it at any moment. Yep. Right. And make a change. You know, I think the biggest obstacles for a lot of people is getting off Complacent Boulevard. Right. That's a comfortable place to be. That part. Right. I mean, we're all guilty of Complacent Boulevard. I get on there sometimes. It's comfy. Same. You know, you get the Netflix going. It's nice. I don't want to do shit. I'm on Complacent Boulevard. Yeah. So getting them out of that and then obviously staying consistent.

[00:27:51] I think that's the biggest thing because people get inspired real quick. That quick hit. Two, three weeks go by. They're like, hmm. Start falling off. Kind of losing it. You know, and then they're right back to Complacent Boulevard. Yeah. Right? Mm-hmm. That part. Yeah. I like that term, Complacent Boulevard, because same. I've become complacent in certain things, too. Freshly paved. Beautiful shrubs on the side. Beautiful shrubbery. You know. Like all the stores you could ever want on Complacent Boulevard. Full sin. Highway. It's got a lot of potholes on it. Yeah. Potholes, you know. The analogies are fun. They're fun.

[00:28:21] And I think that just makes me think about my own journey through owning my body, right? There were some spots where it was a really high and then a really low. And I think coming into this space, being this owner of this embodiment community space, I'm like, you're going to get the real stuff here. There's going to be days where I don't want to talk about my body or your body because I'm just not there yet. I'm just not here. I hit a pothole, right?

[00:28:47] Like I need to go and like reconvene with myself and remind myself who I am. What's my worth? What's my value? Or in a way, like remind myself what my values are, right? What's my mission? What's my goal here? Because I think hustle culture, we can get easily lost in it, too. I definitely have kind of gone a little hard at little times and have impulsively put things out there. But again, like I mentioned previously, I think taking your time with things is really nice.

[00:29:15] And I think that's the most sustainable way to rewrite your story and journey. It is. Yeah. Let's let it take its course. Don't try to rush it. Yeah. Yeah. Let it develop. Yeah. You got to plant the seed. You got to water it. You got to let it flourish. And then you harvest it. Yeah. And it's okay to have an off day. Totally. You know, and to change, like if you really are like, look, when I was doing drugs all the time and I was at like 260 pounds, I'm like 205 right now.

[00:29:45] So like I've made a lot of changes mentally because of the substance that I let go of. And then from there, I had to like really dial in and focus my energy to like change other areas. But in order to do that, like you have to get uncomfortable with whatever you have been doing is making you unhappy. Then you have to start changing those things and figuring out what actually does make you happy.

[00:30:12] And then like what you're saying, you have to commit to that and actually keep showing up because it's easy to get motivated for a couple of weeks, like you're saying, but to actually stay committed and change who you are fundamentally as a human, that takes time and you can't talk about it. You have to just do it sort of thing. So I wanted to, I wanted to just throw that tidbit in there really quick. Yeah. You're basically all saying the same thing.

[00:30:39] It's, you know, and I love hearing aligned things. And sometimes I like hear like a new way of thinking about something and it changes my mind on it. So I want to talk about success energy really quick because sometimes we have to find our motivation and we have to find, you know, like our worth. And sometimes it's hard to do that. But like what you were just saying, as far as like you've done something cool, like, you

[00:31:06] know, in back in your mind, you have to find something that, you know, like you were confident. When was the last time you were confident? Those types of questions. Yeah. So as humans, and we're all guilty of this too often, we're always thinking about the next thing. Yeah. So, and this is like majority of people don't give themselves a pat on the back. And that's crazy because what's happening is you are leaving all this free success energy

[00:31:35] behind you. So if you can go back, if like you're in a low mental space and you can go back and start thinking about the last time you were confident, the last time you succeeded and start thinking about that, then it starts to replay in your head. And then you all of a sudden tap into that old success energy that's just sitting there. And so it also redirects your mind into like more of a positive affirmation type of thought. So success energy is there. We can all always tap into it.

[00:32:05] You know, and making those long-term commitments, like you should probably, you know, you're on the right track when you feel like quitting, like with whatever goal you have, if you feel like quitting that at some point, you probably are doing the right thing. I lived that. Like I was telling you before the show, I was ready to quit at all. And that's like pulls you right back in. You're recommitted stronger than ever. So I agree with that point because I lived it, you know, I second that. I agree with that a lot because there was some point where I'm just like, I'm not going to do any of this. Yeah. There you go.

[00:32:35] Like straight up, like the modeling. I'm like, no, I'm not ready. Like I need to lose 20 pounds. I'm like, even if you did lose the 20 pounds, it's your mindset. Like, do you think you're going to do it still? Even if you were 20 pounds lighter, you know? And same thing with embodiment. Like, I'm just like, I don't know who's going to show up. Like, are people going to think that this is like a little too much, a little too deep, a little, cause you know, this, when I talk about embodying, I'm like, you got to do the work. Like I'm down to have the feel good moments and the positivity. Absolutely.

[00:33:05] Because like I thrive off of that, but also I'm trying to dismantle some shit and I'm trying to help you rewrite your body narrative. And that means that you have to tap in and it's a mindset thing. So yeah, I agree with that. Cause it was like, and the business aspects of it too, like the logistics, right? Like funding and you know, where am I going to hold events and how am I going to advertise this and how am I going to put this out here? But I think, um, going on like the whole like success space that you opened, it's, um, again,

[00:33:34] it's mindset. And I think that when you're naturally aligned with things, um, I believe in manifestation. I believe in calling things in. And I believe in working hard because if it's something that you want, guess what? It also wants you. So it's going to come to you as long as you're ready for it and that you're working for it. I agree with that. If you feel you deserve it, the universe will serve it. I like that. Yeah. I sold that from Pain and Game. That was in that movie. But yeah, it's true. It really is. It's a, it's a mental battle.

[00:34:02] I think that's the big piece and getting people on board. And so you mentioned some of the business part of it, like it's social media where a lot of customer acquisition comes from. Is it word of mouth? So it's word of mouth. It's social media. I'm, it really is word of mouth too, honestly, because I felt like I've built this network of just incredible women who want to like, you know, they're into self-improvement, health and wellness, because I do consider myself a health and wellness space as well. So it's word of mouth.

[00:34:31] It's like telling folks like, Hey, I know that you mentioned this. And I think, um, something that I'm still working on a little vulnerable moment here. I need to be better about putting myself out there on social media a little bit more. And when it comes to authenticity, because if you look at my socials, it's pretty posed. It's pretty like, you know, calculated. And I love that. I worked really hard to make it look that way. But also I'm like, no, there's something missing here because you look at my page and you're just like, okay, she models. This is cool. Like she's doing like body empowerment work.

[00:35:01] That's amazing. Um, but the reels and the content that I've been creating lately, I'm just like, I don't know if people actually know me, like my personality. Um, cause I'm like, I'm at the end of the day, like I'm just having fun. Cause this is a journey, right? We have to have fun with it too. We have to have fun because I'm like, I don't want things to be so like dire and like serious all the time. Like, yes. And that's why I created, um, multiple spaces of embodiment. Like if you just want to have fun and a good time and hang out with the girls, come to

[00:35:29] a workout class, if you want to like get deep and personal and heal a little bit, come to the journaling. Or if you just, if you're just like, I don't know. Questions, those journaling. Thank you. Those were good. Yeah. They're questions that I've like used on my own in my own body journey. And going back to like, if you want something that you're just like, you don't like hanging out in big groups and, but you still want to have these conversations, just hang out with me. Like, let's go get coffee and talk about this. Um, but yes, to answer your question, I think social media is the big one, but it's mainly been word of mouth.

[00:35:57] Um, I'm incredibly lucky for all of the friends and networks that I've been able to make in Denver. Um, I, again, I attract a lot of women and I think it's, again, I think, um, a lot of my friends are naturally attracted to wellness things and something that's beneficial to your health. So it's been great to see, meet people like, oh, I heard of you from like so-and-so, or I saw this post on your social media and I just felt like I wanted to come to this. So it's been great.

[00:36:23] Um, another business aspect is, um, all of my events so far have been free because I believe in accessibility. Um, I don't want costs to be something that, and that's a different way to do business, right? Because I think also trying to come into, how am I going to monetize all of this eventually? Um, but so far, because I've in a way like quote unquote piloting this community space, I just want to make sure that it's accessible and that people come and there's like no restrictions.

[00:36:52] Like, um, even like with, when it comes to, um, women with kids, right? Like if you need childcare, one of the cycling studios, StarCycle, they had childcare. So yeah, that's, that's my approach right now. Um, I, it's funny that you didn't say that because I'm not, I'm not necessarily business oriented. I have worked in nonprofit all of my life. And before then I only worked for the public education system.

[00:37:19] So I have held like state and government level jobs. Like when it comes to running like a hardcore, like business, like let's monetize and, you know, survey results and stuff like that. Like I can nerd out and get into that, but I'm still learning a lot. Sure. Um, and it's great to just, again, tap into my network. And I do have those friends that are entrepreneurs and I guess I am an entrepreneur too. It's kind of weird to say that, but yeah. And it's coming into that like mindset and it's like, wow, like I didn't know that I was

[00:37:48] going to get here and it's a really cool moment. Right. So, um, I'm still learning those as business aspects, but it's, um, it's one of those things where I'm just like, I think that's naturally going to come. Yeah. I think I reversed it. Right. Like I went ahead and stuck to the intention and the mission and the values, like the core, like the heart space of my, um, business came out to me first and the logistics and all of the other things have just come along the way.

[00:38:17] And I really like how that, um, played out. Cause I've seen people do it the other way, right? They just want something like, oh, I need to figure out a way to make money. I'm like, no, I want to figure out a way to connect people. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Cause you have to have a product that, that is monetized. That's a word able to be monetized. Right. And so going back to the slow and low approach, uh, you know, building it, letting it grow, not trying to rush it, not hitting the easy button. You know, that's, I want to get rich overnight approach. That's what everybody's living in now, the TikTok world, stuff like that. So yeah, I think you just keep building on it. Right.

[00:38:46] I mean, you said just over a year in, you know, you got some events coming up, a couple of tidbits that you've given us. So yeah. Yeah. Ride the wave. Yeah. Yeah. And how I look at ROI return of investment is. Thanks for breaking that acronym down. Yeah. Thank you. Cause I was like, what? Yeah. What? I just learned it recently. So I'm in stock. So I'm learning a lot too. I like that. Um, but what I'm thinking about here is how do you define success?

[00:39:15] How do you define like, you know, your rate, your return of investment? So for something like we still have our day jobs, we make money podcasting, but we still work our day jobs. Yeah. And so what keeps me coming back is actually we're helping people by having open upfront conversations. And, and it turns out that that means something to me.

[00:39:40] And for me, I get that return of investment every single time that we have a great person like you sit on the couch and we share a conversation. And if you enjoyed your time and you had fun here and like, you felt like you got to help the people by having a platform to speak like specifically for this podcast, for me, I get my return of investment every single time I show up and have a conversation.

[00:40:05] But if I was so focused on the money, then I would, I wouldn't be able to see that I'm actually really enjoying my time. And, you know, time is something that we never get back. So the more time I can enjoy, then the more happy of a life that I lived. So like, I try to look at things like that too, because yeah, money's important. We need to make money. There's bills to pay. Yeah. We got vacations to take, you know? So like we have, we have to do that.

[00:40:35] But at the same time, like how we are accomplishing that also matters because you might have somebody that's just, I've had friends that are just chasing money and then they're like, I'm not happy at all. And then like some things happen in life. And then all of a sudden, like, you know, then you don't have the money either. And then you don't have, and then, so that's interesting. And then talking about the social media and being authentic on there, maybe you can remind me who I got this quote from. It was one of our guests.

[00:41:02] Um, but they said, people don't relate with your message. They relate with your messes. So you share your messes with people and then all of a sudden, like they start to understand you. I forget who told us that. Yeah. I can picture his face. We've had him on zoom. Yeah. That, that, that quote has always stuck with me. People don't relate with the message. No, they don't relate with the message. They relate with your message. It's true. And that was, that was like mind changing to me.

[00:41:30] Cause I'm like, shit, I should start sharing, you know, the overcoming opiates and like how like today wasn't a good day. Or like, I guess I could say it here. Like the last week, like I've just been kind of like, meh, like I'm having good days and like, I'm eating good food and I have a meaningful relationship and good hobbies. But for some reason, like, it's just like, okay. And that's all right. Like, it doesn't always have to be the very best. Like what you were talking about earlier, you know, we, we go through our ups and downs and

[00:41:59] that's normal. That toxic positivity thing, right? Like the same thing with body positivity. It's like, we don't have to love and, you know, sunshine out our ass every single day. There's going to be those waves. And yeah, I really like that. And I think that's like really inspiring me to share the message a little bit more. Um, another aspect of why embodiment even started again, like I said, is cause I've always like not always, but you know, most of my life I've had my own body image struggles.

[00:42:29] Um, and a lot of that came from what I consumed in the media, like what certain people in my close family were telling me. And I think that like Matt, um, came into, you know, having to navigate like eating disorders too. And it's, I don't think people really know that because they see me as like, oh my gosh, you're super confident. It's like, it took a long time to get here.

[00:42:56] And I think about like younger me, I've been doing a lot of like inner child work lately. And I think about her a lot and just kind of like, what is it that she needed growing up? And that's what I want to create. That's why embodiment is here now too. Cause it's like, dang, if she had that, she would have been unstoppable. She is unstoppable. Don't get me wrong, but it just took her a while to get here and that's okay. And I think that should be highlighted, but that's super inspiring. Thanks for sharing that. Yeah. That's good stuff. 100%.

[00:43:26] Yeah. Yeah. And like, you know, I'm coming up on 38 now and like, I totally like fucked off for over a decade, like wrong priorities. I had some fun there, but it's, it's just, it's interesting going through these different phases of life and you start to appreciate things differently. And like when I removed opiates, stopped drinking to escape boredom. Cause after I stopped doing pills, like there was a while there where I like was drinking more.

[00:43:55] And it was during COVID times. Yep. And everyone was drinking. Yeah. And then like, you realize that you're like drinking out of boredom and like, you almost have to be raw with yourself and like have those tough conversations. Like even thinking about your own inner child and like, what was she missing to have to do this? And like, are people actually having these kinds of inner dialogues with themselves and then, and then finding like appreciation and what, cause what I realized is everything that

[00:44:25] I could have ever wanted. And all my happiness was there the whole time. It was always there, but like I was focused on something else. And, and that, that's crazy to me that it was there the whole time. And I feel, I feel like it's like that for everyone. Yeah. Like your personal happiness already exists. It's got to peel back some layers. You know, like you said, with confidence, everyone has it, you know, and the inner child work, I think is very important.

[00:44:53] I mean, I learned that therapy going through anger management, alcoholism and all that. You had to peel the layers back. Where'd this come from? Started from something. And then you can address that and kind of, okay, well how we saw, we saw where we were. We know where we're at. Where are we going? Kind of thing. And drawing the roadmap from there. You got to have the tools and knowledge to do that, I think. And it's important to look to how we got to where we're at. Yeah. Agreed. Agreed. It's getting deep guys. It's getting deep. I know. I'm like, dang, I gotta go journal after this. You're gonna have to do some journaling. Gotta go release some stuff. Yeah. No, it's good conversation though.

[00:45:21] I, um, it's just, yeah. I mean, also we got to hold space to just like, we really proud of ourselves right now. Like, can we just talk about the three of us? Cause it's like, I'm so proud of you, both of you and how far you've come. And I just met you today. I can only imagine like the journey and how long it's been and how many times you're probably just like, yeah, I'm like, whatever. Like, I'm not going to do this shit anymore. And I'm just like, yeah, I think it's great to finally like, you know, grow into ourselves

[00:45:48] continuously because if you're not, if you're not growing, it's just like, it's stagnant, right? Like the, what'd you call it? A place in Boulevard. A place in Boulevard. Yep. There's a street in every town named that. Yeah. But I think it's important to highlight that too. Um, I haven't taken a moment to kind of just like look back at embodiment and be like, oh my gosh, like actually did it. Right. And it's going to keep growing. And I think it's really exciting. So. That's exciting. Yeah. That's exciting. And congratulations to you too. Right. Thank you. You know, and like with the, okay.

[00:46:26] Addictive drugs and it's in everything. It's in bread. So it's in everything. This whole challenge thing that I've been doing, one of the, so the 75 hard thing, right? Um, I wanted to do it in my own way because I think 75 hard was created by some guy who had a lot of time on his hands and probably was connected to the resources to have a very successful 75 hard. Right. I'm like, I can't do no two workouts a day. Cause I have a full-time job on top of this. It's pretty out there. Like it's a pretty long commute for me.

[00:46:54] So I'm just like, okay, I had to like, in a way, like rewrite the rules for myself, like figuratively and literally, um, from just doing like one, one hour workout a day. And there is some sort of like diet that you have to figure out and follow. And this is something that I was super mindful about because as I previously mentioned, like the eating disorders, like I can get very, it can get a little weird for me sometimes when it's like controlled eating or like restrictive eating.

[00:47:23] But I knew that I had to do something because I'm like, okay, the sugar thing, you know, eating all of this process crap was really slowing me down. And I saw it in like my mental, like the brain fog, right. Super low energy levels. And even like, I was still working out before starting this challenge, but it was like, I wasn't hitting like PR is like, I felt like I was staying stagnant. So something that I've been learning throughout this challenge is, is that right? Like the sugar thing.

[00:47:53] I was pissed off for like a good month into this because of the lack of sugar I was having. Did it make you feel ill? Like, like sugar withdrawal? I mean, yeah. Like I was like, word online, cussing people out. Like your patience was gone. Yeah. It is that, it's that powerful. It's like nicotine. And it's like, we think about like, I mean, I think about you, um, you and your, um, your perspective on big pharma. I'm just kind of like, there's just like so many extra things that they're putting in our food too. It's, it's insane.

[00:48:22] So it's addicting. Yeah. We don't really talk about like how much like I just crave. Well, I've talked about it on the podcast, but like a McDonald's burger. Like, like, Oh, I'm craving that right now. Yeah. I can't wait. I'm so excited. Yeah. It was forever since I ate one and I'm like thinking about them all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, there, there's, there's some changes coming, I think in the health world. Uh, we already saw like Shake Shack and a couple of these other guys off the top of my head. I think Smash Burger is one of them are no longer using seed oils.

[00:48:52] Good for them. They're going to use beef tallow or their grease. Great. Beef tallow. So a natural thing, these seed oils we've learned, we talked about with Rob Torin a few weeks ago on, or Rob Horne, I believe his name was on the program about how these seed oils are in everything. And that's just one example of something, right? We see the red dye 40, whatever it was, was just banned. We're going to see a lot of this coming with, with, I think, uh, some changes that are coming in the health and human services. Yeah. Which is something to be optimistic about. I think so too. I mean, we got to get the poison out of the food. Yeah. I mean, I like hot Cheetos though. Who doesn't love hot Cheetos?

[00:49:22] Like you can get rid of red 40, but I'm going to eat my hot Cheetos. I was going to ask. I just salivated. You sang. I know. My stomach just went. I was going to ask you. So like, you know, outside of the work and once the day's done, go to snack and like the unwind thing. Like what, what's, what are you doing on, on your off day? Yeah. Oh my gosh. That's such a great question. Lately. I mean, this, this whole challenge thing has been taking my life. Right. And I think that's like a problem too. And later on, I'll go ahead and do a little reel and kind of be like, this is what my experience was.

[00:49:52] But, um, what's my day? Like a weekend? Like what's like the breakdown of my weekend? Yeah. Like if you have like an off day where you're like, you know what? I want to do something fun. That's just for me today. Like I like reading, reading, I really like reading. Um, this is going to sound really funny, but I know that I'm going through it mentally or that I need to disassociate when I pick up like a YA novel, like a young adult novel. Okay. Like a couple of weeks ago, I like reread the Twilight series. Okay. What's wrong with that? It's like watching an old childhood movie or something.

[00:50:21] Um, I love movies. I'm a big, I don't need, um, the term film buff. Like I really do love film and the intention behind a good curated movie, like with a good message and something that makes you think. Yeah. Um, one of my favorite shows right now is severance on Apple TV. I haven't seen a really good show. Oh my gosh. It talks about like your nine to five work life and they're literally trapped at their job. It's just like a little thriller. It's good. You should check it out. Severance. Severance. Okay. I'm doing that.

[00:50:50] Um, I'm going to sound like such a gym, bro, but I really do like the gym. I enjoy the gym. And I think, um, I've made some friends at the gym and have like some sort of community there. So it's been great. Um, I enjoy cooking as well. And I think, um, I'm just, I'm just pretty like a low key girl. Like it's just whatever comes up in the day. And I think, um, Denver specifically, they do such a great job on putting so many community events where you can go network and like meet people.

[00:51:20] And, um, I really keep my eye out for that too. How do you, cause that's always something that like, I, I'm like, it's my days off. Like I should not do anything. Yeah. But then I know if I went to a networking event, then I might, it's going to change the whole trajectory of my life. Yeah. I know. It's great. So like, so where are you seeing these networking events? Like what, what, what is that? It's word of mouth really.

[00:51:48] So whatever my friends go to, I'm just kind of like, Hey, do you want to go to this? Or we'll send each other stuff. Um, but I see them a lot on social media. Um, through my job, I think again, we're super connected to community. So when I talk about like going to events, I'm there when it comes to like community events. Like if there's something that's like Latino centered, I'm there. If there is something else that's like more like art centered, I'm there. Or like music or food. Um, I think it's been really dead this winter, which is why I'm like, dang, what have I been doing?

[00:52:17] But I think once, um, it starts warming up, I'm going to be out there a little bit more. But I've, um, I just thought about like, you know, when they say like, Oh, you should go, you never know what's going to happen. Even though if you don't go and you go to something and you're just like, Oh my gosh, it's a good thing I showed up because I wasn't about to come. Um, I really liked those kinds of experiences and I feel like they happen pretty often for me. Um, so yeah, but that's just kind of what I do. Yeah. I, that's a great question.

[00:52:46] I'm like, wow, what is it that I do? Well, I mean, cause we're always grinding, we're always hustling. I mean, Art and I are busy guys. And then, you know, for me, I, I'm, I do NASCAR. So that's my, that's my downtime, you know? And then I do a podcast for that. So I'm very forward. It's still work, but it's still like my, my hangout time, you know? So everyone's got to have something, right? Something to get their mind off the typical stuff where that's video games, reading. Yeah. NASCAR, like you like watching. Like sports, like start car racing and such. Yes. Okay. Auto racing is my, it's in my blood. That's cool. Love racing. I love that. Yeah.

[00:53:16] Um, fun fact, a couple of years ago when I was like in my early twenties, um, I got like a WRX car, like stick shift and I would just like drag race and. Oh, nice. Yeah. I never got into NASCAR. I'm just doing it for like, it looks fun. Hey, motorsports are fun. They are. They're cool. What'd you think of that WRX ripping the six feet? Oh my gosh. It was amazing. But I blew it out. You know? You blew it? Yeah, I blew it. I blew it. You, you, you mashed the gas too hard. You pushed it to the limit. It was the car that I learned how to drive stick shift then. So I don't know what I did.

[00:53:44] I just got really excited and had a couple of extra features on it. I couldn't tell you technically what the car had. I just knew it was fast and it was loud. No, those WRXs, they give me a move. I, uh, I know someone with one of those. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's fun though. Yeah. That's fun. Yeah. I just like, you know, cause it's always the hustle and bustle, right? Yeah. We have to talk about what we're doing, why we're doing it. And I like, no, people like to do on their unwind time. Yeah. That's important. Yeah. And it's so screwed saying work, like people are like, you know, I got to work.

[00:54:13] I got to go to work today. Yeah. And I want to eliminate that social norm. I'd be like, oh, the nine to five, you know, because we can actually have a lot of value in our jobs. Right. But we have to create that. And so like one thing I've done is change my mentality on it and it's more being productive. And so I like being productive every single day and maybe my productive day is productively

[00:54:41] having R and R time, which is rat, uh, rat relaxation, rest and relaxation or resetting whatever your R and R is. Yeah. But like, that's being productive to me is like, I'm productively taking a day off. And so like, like, it's kind of a way to like recharge batteries. There's all these different ways to look like how, like what lens? Are you looking through? Like, that's, what's cool about being a human.

[00:55:06] Like, and you said something that really, uh, echoed with me and like, that echoes in my own mind is like, life is crazy. There's all this stuff happening. Like I want to try to have fun with it because like within the mayhem, you can have fun within the chaos, but it's a choice. It's like, we have to choose how we want to interact with the mayhem around us because

[00:55:32] we can't choose what happens to us, but we can choose how we react to it or how we let it affect us. And that's a piece of power that I believe most people don't realize that they have. And everybody has that power of choice of like where your thoughts are, regardless, uh, outside circumstances. It's like, we have, we have this. And so, and so one thing I've been doing to ignore the noise and check out a reality is

[00:55:59] I've been, I've been gaming hard, like playing a lot of video games in the last, I don't know, couple months. Yeah. Like I've, I've like really brought it home and just been playing games a lot. That's fun. Yeah. It's good to unwind. What kind of video games do you like to play? There's like some, uh, MMO games. New world is one of them. It's like a multi, a massive multiplayer online game. And then I'm also playing like this, uh, fun game called no man's sky, which is a free room. Yes.

[00:56:28] Space exploration, like discovery of planets. It's like really fun, easy, non-stressful video games. Okay. I'm sure you could guess what I play. I can't. Um, hold on. Let me guess now. I mean, do you play like the grand theft auto? Cause you like NASCAR. I do play that Gran Turismo. Okay. There you go. Love racing. You know, that's my, get me on the track. Yeah. I want to go fast. There you go. And honestly, this dude, he's so good at racing games.

[00:56:58] Like I don't even want to try. I grew up around, you know, so I played. That's fun though. That's fine. I'm glad you've been having some R and R. That makes me happy. It is, but I'm going through a weird cycle. Like I was talking about like where I know things are good, but I'm just like, kind of like, or like, I'm like a little grumpy for like, what reason? Yeah. You know? And so that's okay. It's okay. It's okay. Yeah. Cause it's temporary, right? It's like, this is just a temporary feeling. It's okay to sit with this for a little bit and yeah. Let it marinate. Yeah.

[00:57:29] Yeah. I relate to that in a way. Cause it's just like, I mean, yeah, I've just kind of been trying to get through this like challenge thing just for the purposes of science. I guess that's a hobby too. I like doing stuff to like bullshit and people and like prove them wrong and be like, I did this by the way. But yeah, no, that's a great, that's a good, it's a good mindset. Yeah. I think it is. I think it is. There's some powerful minds in this room. Yeah. I agree. Great conversation. I've enjoyed this one.

[00:57:58] I think, I think what you're doing is helping people and, and you are, you are creating a space that is safe for people to be vulnerable and that's important. You know, like the whole getting your money's worth, like what about your emotional tank worth? And so I feel like you're already accomplishing that. Thank you. And I'm just really happy that you're able to share some time with us and come record some DCPC.

[00:58:26] So before we get out of here, where can everybody get in touch with you? How can people get involved? Yes. Honestly, the best way possible is through social media or my website. So my website is info. I'm sorry. Info. No, it's not. That's my email. So your email. My email is info at embodiment.com. And my website is embodiment.com. Okay. Of course, social media, Steph Monge underscore or at embodiment.

[00:58:55] Connect with me there. I have a lot of exciting events coming up and I just like really enjoy just connecting with people and talking about this and, you know, rewriting those narratives. So, yeah. Good stuff. We'll include that down in the show notes down below. So our viewers and listeners can, we'll make it really easy for them to get in touch with you. Thanks again for joining us. It's great. You're in the wheelhouse now. So. I love it. I'll have you back for a follow up visit. Yes. You know, see how the challenge went, see where the business is at, you know, the next year or so. I would love that. Yes. And, you know, maybe we can connect at a networking event or something this spring and summer. Yeah. That sounds great. Yeah.

[00:59:25] Let's get together. When you go to one, you should hit us up. Be like, oh, I'll get the podcast. We'll come down. Let's do it. Let's do it. We'll get the podcast guys over there. Let's full send it. Okay. Let's do it. I'm down. Thank you. Going all the way. Yes. Yes. Perfect. Good stuff. Well, cheers. Thank you. Thank you for joining us. Let's cheers these. Cheers. Cheers. That's okay. Clank it. Everyone. Thanks. Thank you so much for tuning in. We'll see you on happy Friday tomorrow. Coming your way. All the great content right here on the discussion combustion YouTube channel.

[00:59:54] I didn't want to steal it from you. I was about to steal it. Hey man. You know what? Let me hit it. Be good to yourselves. You deserve it. And we'll just cut it. That's great.