Justin Duran | Discussion Combustion Podcast | #267

[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_02]: This is a discussion coming to you from Dambert Colorado. This is Discussion Combustion Podcast with your hosts, Kevin Batstone and Arthur Rawe

[00:00:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Rock and Roll, and we rocked it along. What happened? We got two, two, six, six, six, six, six, seven, I believe, two, six, six, seven, hold it up. That's a lot of episodes. That's a lot man. Yeah, it doesn't feel like that man, but it doesn't. You know, you Kevin claims he's a professional talker. I've never claimed that. I just talked professionally.

[00:00:41] [SPEAKER_05]: It's all about how you phrase it man, but how you word it, where are you framing? That's true. It's your story. You tell it.

[00:00:47] [SPEAKER_02]: My world and you all got to live in it. You're chicken, you fucking. I heard that one was pretty good.

[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_00]: That's probably going to be legal here in a couple years. Oh, shit. He's the only one going on the ballot. Oh, damn.

[00:01:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't know that for sure, but I could see it like in some areas. I wouldn't be surprised. I don't know. I think it can happen.

[00:01:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, look, people have been doing animal sex since what is the safe way to say it? Roll man's with an animal since like the 90s.

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_05]: We have some back there. Some cultures are like, we're goats and stuff, you know, but yeah, I don't know. Well, and then you wonder now, is it tied into, I said there's plenty of people that are furries, right?

[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's kind of, that's definitely one. Is that a little weird territory on some of that? Well, identify as a cat.

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_05]: That doesn't mean you can, or does it? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's where it gets dicey.

[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Right? And this is not in any way trying to go towards any sort of right wing whenever we're like, well, now because guys have rights that they were going to have sex with that.

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_05]: It's like, it's not to be anything like that. Yeah. Just making funny observations.

[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_02]: That is the goal. Yeah, things are going to get a little squirrely and there's not much we could do about it.

[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_05]: No, it's trying. That's kind of it. Who knows? Who knows anymore? It's wild.

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Different times. How we grew up. A very different.

[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_02]: It is. I think that's the hardest part is, you know, it's like a pretty conservative small town.

[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and moving out. I moved out to Denver, like, oh, seven. So Facebook wasn't real big yet. You know, like all that shit wasn't happening.

[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_02]: So I got out of high school and got out of all that before it became in our face all the time. This is society now.

[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_02]: And so it's like, you know, you kind of learn to, I don't want to say a doubt, a different personality or anything like that.

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_02]: But you just kind of, I don't know, I've kind of sold my foot in my mouth a few times from like old ways of thinking.

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_02]: So to speak, sure. You know, just how I grew up or whatever. Like, oh, you know, like we used to be like, oh, that's gay.

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Can't really do that anymore. Can you know? You people get upset. So he's just stuff like that. Just catching myself like, okay, things are changing a little bit.

[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know. I don't want to get canceled. And it's easy to do.

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_02]: It's very easily happened. These are to get canceled.

[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, and everybody just, you know, Kevin, I were kind of talking about the atmosphere prior to recording.

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And I just, I think it's weird how offended everybody is about everything.

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. Like, isn't it okay to be a little confused? Like if I'm confused about something, isn't that just okay for me to be a little confused?

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And if they don't understand my thought process, like, isn't that okay if they don't understand it?

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, I would think so. But everybody's got, since there's no consequences to say whatever you want on the internet.

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, people think they can say whatever they want on the internet. And you can really, but you get into real life and everybody is pretty cordial.

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, I've traveled around a lot with different bands and in this band and stayed with people that I know that I have a completely different viewpoint on.

[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_05]: And everybody's chill. Yeah.

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like a lot of what they show is just obviously sensationalist because that sells on the media stuff.

[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_05]: But everybody still gets along in America, at least. I feel like we're all pretty good. Everybody's still got a good head in their shoulders for the most part.

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Just don't bring up any stupid shit. Yeah.

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_05]: And just, and be cool. Just chill out.

[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Just because someone says something doesn't mean you need to get offended.

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_05]: We used to, we used to as punk rockers try to say things that offended people.

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Right. And now it's like, I see in some of the scenes where it's almost flipped where you can't do that now and it's just odd.

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Like I grew up in a group of punk scene young and now I'm in the punk scene again with this band and it's like,

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_05]: It's really different from how it was when I was coming up in different generations, I guess.

[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I'm getting up there anymore. That's how we know we're getting all right.

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not the same thing.

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_05]: These are the way they used to be.

[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_05]: It was better back.

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, just to cost our dollar a dollar.

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Make Donald's was better.

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Make Donald's was better.

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_01]: The big Mac was bigger.

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, punk rock kind of paved the way for like playful banter in the music and calling out certain

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_02]: They're kind of anti-like, you know, government a little bit like we're going to do our own way and, you know,

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_02]: like I don't really big in the 90s or I remember that's like it was kind of the punk movement.

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah.

[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Like everybody was accepted and I feel like, but it was definitely a group that was kind of the rebels kind of anarchists kind of.

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not the rules.

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_05]: And even, you know, like when I grew, it was like 90s, you know, so it's quote unquote punk rock.

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_05]: It wasn't really what it was originally how it started.

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_05]: There's a lot of pop punk that came in there and my love pop punk.

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_05]: I love all that stuff.

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_05]: It's all good.

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_05]: It's just interesting to see how things have changed.

[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_05]: I grew up in that music and I started doing other different kinds of music and somehow found my way back into it.

[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's really neat and just different.

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_05]: So, I'm doing it.

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I love what you guys do.

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we could take, we could talk about that other subject the whole time and like people getting offended.

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_00]: But the fric-ish, the fric-ish.

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_01]: The fric-ish.

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_01]: The fric-ish.

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_00]: The fric-ish.

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_00]: No, the fric-ish.

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_00]: And we got adjusted on couch right now.

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah.

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_00]: No, these guys are badass.

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_00]: We've been to some of your shows.

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, obviously, y'all composed and recorded the happy Friday theme song which we play every single week.

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you know, much appreciated.

[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_00]: But I love the song where it's like, listen, we have to overcome that video's badass too.

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_00]: The video turned a good vibe like that song.

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_00]: That one gets me pumped up sometimes.

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a good one.

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_00]: So there's a lot of good music.

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_05]: That's a hatey-hitty one to watch me die again.

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that's right.

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_05]: It's really wordy title.

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_05]: And just we like odd titles with the songs.

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_05]: I came over with that or we came up with that.

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_05]: It was really me and the drummer Sam and we're busy and I'm playing video games.

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_05]: And there's after practice or something.

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_05]: And constantly playing something stupid and dying all the time and just became a hatey-one.

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Watch me die again.

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Turned into a song title.

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Write that down.

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_05]: He's got a list of just things that come up and passing.

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, that might be a song name.

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Save that one.

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_05]: We used that later.

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_05]: We might want to the bands that that don't know.

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_05]: He just we've read a song and then come up with a song name afterwards.

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know how often that happens, but maybe it happens all the time.

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it's like that's the way to do it.

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Because then you let the song develop a character.

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Right. Now, you're like, okay, now we can name it.

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_05]: If you read a song of my I love my girlfriend, you're going to write it.

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_05]: You have to write a song like you love your girlfriend.

[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_05]: If you come with a song first and you can come over the title later.

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_05]: It really does almost take on its own sort of meaning.

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_05]: And you can play with what the song is written about compared to,

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_05]: they make a joke about it with the title.

[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_05]: It's become a funny other creative way that we've found with the band.

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Just to have fun with it on our own.

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Because we always joke about like nobody's listening.

[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Nobody cares really.

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_05]: They don't really.

[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_05]: It's just one of those things you have to get used to.

[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_05]: And once you get fine with that,

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like you can you release and be more creative.

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I spent so many years trying to we have to do this.

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_05]: We have to go with that way.

[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_05]: We have to hit the road.

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_05]: We have to make all of this and then the focus on it can stifle it.

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_05]: And with this band, we allow it to breathe and just because we're more experienced,

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_05]: probably and understand songwriting more and don't push it when you don't need to.

[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_05]: You feel like there's an urgency.

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_05]: We need to get this out.

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_05]: We need to get this done.

[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_05]: But then well why?

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Nobody cares.

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_00]: They're not going to listen.

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Like we're putting all this pressure on ourselves.

[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_05]: You get this done by this do date.

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Nobody's going to listen to it for the whole time.

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_05]: And then once you're fine with that and just put it out,

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_05]: it frees you and then people do start listening to it.

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_05]: It's a baffling thing.

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_05]: How that I heard on another one,

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_05]: that smart list podcast.

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Sexy and difference.

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_05]: If you kind of don't.

[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_05]: If you care too much, it pushes it farther away.

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_05]: You all and if you kind of know your good and you're confident in what you do,

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_05]: and you don't give as much focus on it.

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_05]: It seems to almost help.

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's just funny.

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_05]: It feels like that applies to a lot of different things in life

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_05]: in relationships with if you're trying to date somebody.

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_05]: I've definitely been that guy who's been well,

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_05]: you're great.

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_05]: I can't believe that you're talking to me and you just push that person far.

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_05]: And farther away.

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_05]: I say, nobody wants that.

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_05]: But you play a little bit of loof and it works in your favor sometimes.

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_00]: You kind of act like you don't care a little bit.

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_00]: You show that you care.

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_05]: You have to still really care.

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just talking dating.

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And music is similar.

[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel happy to show how you feel.

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_00]: You don't tell how you feel.

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_00]: You have to show it.

[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_05]: If you're too upfront with it,

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_05]: if it's too on the nose,

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_05]: people can sniff it out and has to be real.

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_05]: And you can't be doing.

[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_05]: I guess it doesn't necessarily have to be real.

[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_05]: You can have talent in both being a pickup artist

[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_05]: and being a musician artist.

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_05]: You can have a talent.

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_05]: You can kind of fake some of it.

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_05]: But the real stuff,

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_05]: the vulnerability is what everybody connects with.

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_05]: And just being real.

[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_05]: And then but not getting too aggressive in pushing too hard.

[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm talking circles here.

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_05]: It's not the right way.

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_05]: It is a balance for sure.

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_02]: It's tight rope and sonarism.

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_02]: And mystery is good too.

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like.

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Whether it's a band, relationships, work, whatever.

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Like a little bit of mystery, not always showing your hand.

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_02]: So people don't know.

[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_02]: So all we have there's new singles coming out.

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_02]: This is what we can expect.

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, you don't want to be predictable.

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Right?

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_02]: True.

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_02]: That's true.

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Definitely.

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_05]: But then you have to also be familiar enough

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_05]: to where you don't alienate sometimes too.

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm a firm believer.

[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_05]: I like weird everything.

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_05]: But I've been in bands where you play weird things at odd time signatures

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_05]: and parts don't repeat.

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_05]: And most everybody doesn't get it.

[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I've been in bands like that in musicians love it.

[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Musicians like you guys.

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_05]: We we we we holy crap.

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_05]: We can't believe you're doing this and then everybody else in the crowd was just like,

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know where it is that.

[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know where to bob my head to this.

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_05]: And then it changed to a different time.

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_05]: And then I don't know what to do with that.

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_05]: And it has to the same thing.

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_05]: It has to be familiar enough but but different enough and and a

[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_05]: alluf enough but focused enough.

[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_05]: What would an odd tight rope?

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_05]: To walk.

[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_00]: You know?

[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_00]: The tight ropes of life.

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like I feel like life is best lived in the gray area.

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's like you're walking this line between like going too far,

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_00]: not, you know, not going too far and like,

[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_00]: and it's like for every single subject like I don't care what subject you're talking about.

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_00]: There is a tight rope to walk on that on that subject.

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever you're trying to accomplish.

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's true.

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_00]: That's one weird thing about it.

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_05]: You can say whatever you want and you know, that's fine but there is a certain path that

[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_05]: that will get you some type of success maybe or some type of failure or

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_05]: some type of ostracized ostracization.

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Uh-huh.

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_05]: That's a word.

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_05]: ostracization.

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_05]: So that three times better.

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I create a list by didn't know I have trying to say.

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm also a face.

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_05]: The time to aaster.

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Was watching something the other day at Martin Short was like,

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_05]: why do you think they put an S in the word list at interest?

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_05]: It really fucked me.

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_05]: We left so hard to do that.

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he's funny.

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_03]: He's correct me.

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, I was just, you know, you're not there here or there.

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, that's good.

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Going back to that music video though every time I see what's a hate

[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_02]: that one wants me to die again.

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I always want to go to the mountains.

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm always like, I want to go to that spot.

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_02]: That place just looks bitching.

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_05]: That was really neat.

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Sam, our drummer works at four by four wild side up in Esdys Park.

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_05]: They're nice.

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_05]: He's a welder, so they weld roll cages on these huge vehicles.

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_05]: They've got a bunch of humbers and a couple Toyota mega cruisers, which is like only a handful

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_05]: in the US.

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Really?

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Like they turn front and then he's out with your hand.

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_05]: That's what we wrote up.

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, it's all like, what is that?

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I was not really right.

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_05]: It almost looks like a hummer but it's just a little different, you know,

[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_05]: and right hand drive and Sam's been on the trail forever because they own that trail

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_05]: with that company and they take people up just on all these four real vehicles

[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_05]: to go up on the mountain and Sam builds the roll cages and all the plexiglass.

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_05]: You can be in it with your family and look around and see beautiful nature.

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_05]: But they have that cool tower in the top.

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think Sam is family once somewhere helped rebuild that.

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we're all working for the company there because I've gotten real close to them

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_05]: and they're a very cool family.

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_05]: They all are willing to jump in and throw down.

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and then we got to play on top of the roof of the tower there.

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_05]: It was windy as hell.

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_00]: So what is that like a fire sighting tower?

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, essentially it's part of the park and that's some kind of fire sighting

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Ranger tower.

[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Quite the view up there.

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, it's really neat.

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_05]: You can see around it.

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_05]: It was cold that day.

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_05]: It was very windy and we had to jump.

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_05]: We were up there playing and we'd get a take and then run down into the actual cabin part

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_05]: and we'd get a walk up and take a shot and take a drink and go back out there

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_05]: and we had drones that were out at the same time.

[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's windy as hell.

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm surprised that they got such great shots with the drones too,

[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_05]: considering what they had to fight against.

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I know there's one scene where your hair just goes perfectly with like the,

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah, with the music.

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_00]: It just goes flying.

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's just like wow, this is an epic video.

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_05]: It's really cool stuff.

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_05]: It turned out really good, not necessarily an accident,

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_05]: but really anything.

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_05]: I remember all of our instruments at one point we were down warming up and we had our instruments up there.

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_05]: And the wind blew over Sam's drum kit into our guitars.

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah.

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_05]: We knocked everything onto the ground.

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_05]: It was wild.

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_05]: That was some crazy weather up there, but that was a really great video to make everybody was really cool.

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't know overcom.

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_05]: We had to overcome it.

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_05]: That's really good.

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_05]: It's a fucking perfect.

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_05]: It's a very, very, very.

[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_05]: We had such a blast though and just being up there and being in nature

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_05]: that I don't see as much.

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_02]: There's something about it, man.

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I had a good time.

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_02]: For sure.

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Nature's that it's been calling.

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I need to get up there.

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, I've been in the rain this for a while.

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I know and I just haven't done it.

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I haven't done it but I need to.

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Because every time you go, you know, like you're saying,

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_02]: it's different kind of like feeling refreshed recharge.

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_02]: It helps to really set.

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Especially playing in nature.

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's, you know, getting your instruments out.

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_02]: There's a little bit risky.

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess because you guys were hooking it up.

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_02]: These like steep past stairs.

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_02]: You got the wind whipping.

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I've got to work out that thousands of dollars equipment up there.

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think.

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_02]: No, sorry.

[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_02]: No big.

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_05]: And our equipment and then all the cameras,

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Jeremiah owns a bunch of that stuff because he does audio visual.

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_05]: For his job, you're going to go on a different setting of different

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_05]: conference areas and that's definitely helped with the band as well.

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_05]: It's been a fun trip with all of us.

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Everybody's got their own kind of strength.

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Everybody supports each other and that's what else so helps.

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_05]: It's in a band.

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_05]: It's not just music too and can you write together?

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Because play people we write together.

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Can you get along?

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_05]: And thrive that way and,

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_00]: And all arrive at the same place at the same time.

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_00]: We're, we're D practice.

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you don't have to tell us the exact address.

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_05]: In Denver.

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Please go black and bloom.

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_05]: We've recorded there too with the guys there.

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_05]: It's great.

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_05]: It's a great spot.

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_05]: We get to, we share a spot with three different,

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_05]: two other bands, the born ready and weather big storm.

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_05]: I think we're going to play a show with them.

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Come November, December.

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_05]: We've talked about it just because we've,

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_05]: We've done one before around the holidays with,

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_05]: With the bands from the, from the practice space.

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_05]: And we're kind of different genres but.

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Why not?

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Let's get, let's go and just have some fun and who cares what happens for.

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_05]: So there's so much focus on a lot of other shows.

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_05]: We need to sell tickets.

[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_05]: We need to get people out to this one.

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Uh-huh.

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Sometimes it's fun to just hang out with your bros.

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Just jam.

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Just jam.

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Get back to the original.

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Get some drinks.

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_02]: This is nice.

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Shoot the shit, you know.

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_05]: It's nice to play those shows that don't have any pressure.

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a different kind of energy.

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh.

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_02]: That makes sense, right?

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how many tickets do we sell.

[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_02]: We still have this to go.

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Did you put down social media all that?

[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying the last time.

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Aren't I sorry?

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it was at the summit.

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_02]: It sounds right.

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think we were both pretty intoxicated by Sean.

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_02]: You pulled us up on stage.

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I had a little too much whiskey.

[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I was hell in there with us.

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_00]: What I was going to say.

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And then I went up there and I just set a couple nice things about the band.

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_00]: They're awesome.

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_00]: And then I got off the stage and I was like,

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Whoo!

[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't make myself look like an idiot.

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_00]: It was close.

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_02]: That was a good show.

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Was that the show when the banner came crashing down?

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I believe that was, yeah.

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the fun.

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_00]: That's fun, rocker.

[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Didn't fall like another band.

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it fell on a den.

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_05]: He was sitting in the for a trumber.

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_05]: You sat in for counter punching.

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_05]: It was easy to play.

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_05]: You still playing.

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Anyway.

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_05]: You have to do it through.

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_01]: What is it true for?

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_01]: He's such a good drummer.

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_01]: We still joke about that one.

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_01]: So, he held it together.

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_02]: He did his thing like drooping over his head and he still looks like a hit.

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_00]: He was.

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_00]: He did a good job with that.

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_00]: He did a really good job with that.

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_05]: It was such a cool banner.

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_05]: But it's huge.

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_05]: And we tried to, we got some good gaff tape.

[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_05]: But we got warm in there and then we still doesn't stick.

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_05]: We did a different show here recently where we just had one of our,

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_05]: It was little like two by four sticker.

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm stuck on the back of the stage.

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_05]: And joked about it.

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_05]: We got the smallest banner ever.

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_05]: He can't read it.

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_00]: So, he's reading the guy in the banana suit.

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he's still showing up.

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, oh yeah.

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_05]: That's banana j.

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_05]: He's getting creative.

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he goes everywhere man.

[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_05]: He's getting pretty famous.

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_05]: He goes to all sorts of shows all around the US.

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_05]: He's just, he's turning into that guy.

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I've seen stuff of him online before and I'm like, I've seen that dude.

[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Uh-huh.

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_05]: He's a, we, we, we, we bottom of banana suit and put like our little logo.

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_05]: It almost looks like Chiquita banana because we got that blue light.

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's funny.

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_05]: He's such a, he's such a good dude man.

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_05]: He's been so supportive.

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Everybody in Denver is really supportive of the band.

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, it's been a good crew man.

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Denver is a real fun scene for music and.

[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_05]: That's all I agree with that.

[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and there's growing.

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_05]: There's so many good bands.

[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_05]: It's just everywhere in every genre.

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_05]: We played the UMS.

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Not last weekend, but the weekend before.

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_05]: I want to say underground music showcase on South Broadway.

[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, they have a bunch of different venues that just play.

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_05]: I want to show, uh, A-mo and the Snifers played and vacations and.

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, on the big stages and we were playing.

[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_05]: We played the Hornet and like the side stage.

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_05]: It was a part of a, they normally just do like acoustic stuff.

[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_05]: We played this little tiny room.

[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_05]: And I want to say like 80 people showed up.

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe it was packed in there.

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Uh-huh.

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, and just just super cool.

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_05]: People started moshing really hard and crowd surfing and just the energy of that room was was different

[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_05]: than a lot of other places.

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_05]: It's funny how just being in a smaller, smaller room can change the energy.

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_05]: It can change the energy and make sure really fun.

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_05]: People were falling onto the stage, under my pedal board, you know, over the monitors

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_05]: and we had to get people up front to kind of block for us.

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_05]: We played at midnight even so like all these people showed up when we played at midnight.

[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Wow.

[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Like wow, after the whole, after the show's been going on since 4 p.m.

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_05]: In the heat, you know, 100 degree weather in Denver a couple of, like,

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_05]: it has been a lot of weekends.

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_05]: It really has been, um, me now everybody showed up man.

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, it's, the Denver scene is awesome.

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_05]: And banana jay just, he goes to all sorts of shows.

[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_05]: He's such a good dude.

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Like he's so funny.

[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_00]: People aren't dancing, like he's going to get it started.

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to get started and he just does that like classic, like he like does this

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_00]: classic, like a walking around like that.

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_05]: You see him in the pit and you want to get involved.

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it's just, it's just something funny.

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_05]: You don't see very often.

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_05]: We played a show back in the day at the Oriental and, or the, oh, I think they call it now.

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, and as somebody else showed up in a, in a gorilla suit.

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And Jesus, there's banana like, oh man, what does this happen more often?

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_02]: That's like some pressed and lazy.

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_02]: We man skipped from jackass.

[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I can see him doing something like that.

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_02]: He's the gorilla and we man's the banana.

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I get, I get to see that.

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I love those guys.

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I always, your drummer looks like Chris Pontius.

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_02]: He does.

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I can't be the only one that I can do about it.

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_05]: He's part of boy back in the day ahead.

[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Some spike here, shorter hair.

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_05]: I got, um, some of, I was, you know, way better looking.

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_05]: It was like when I was 20, if you were like, oh, bam, Marjorie, I had people come up

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_05]: from across the parking lot.

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_05]: You look like, bam Marjorie.

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_05]: I think he got Chris and then he gets Chris Pontius.

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_05]: That's hilarious.

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, I don't look anything like, bam Marjorie.

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know how that every game.

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't see bam.

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, it's all, you know?

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_05]: But maybe maybe a different, in a different light than a different year of Justin.

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Could be, bam's not looking so good these days.

[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, I think I don't even look like, bam, he wore the shoes.

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_01]: He's just cut his heels.

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_02]: He's got that.

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_02]: He gave up alcohol.

[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's almost like a year.

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's go.

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_02]: It's good.

[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Because he was in rough shit.

[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I think Steve O'Kind of encouraged him a little bit.

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Good for him now and kind of took him under his wing a bit, but those guys man, they went hard.

[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, too hard.

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_02]: You, you, you two hard and to do with their job, what they were doing.

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_02]: You'd have to be fucked up.

[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's what's crazy about Steve O'Kind, 15 years sober and he still jumped out

[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_02]: airplanes and shit and doing wild stuff.

[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_05]: That guy was a maniac before, you know?

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_05]: He didn't, he didn't need any of that stuff.

[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Just amplified it.

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_02]: It just amplified it for sure.

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I met him back in 2017 at Comedy Works South.

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, cool.

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_02]: And he had just got done doing a skit where he did snow angels in rocket fuel.

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_02]: And he had third degree chemical burns on his arms.

[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_02]: He was completely banished up, like needed skin graft to stay in them for weeks to get this repaired.

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_02]: And he made sure to stay at that venue and take a picture with every single person that was there.

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Wow, I might do see those legendary.

[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's, yeah, taking 300 pictures takes a lot of time.

[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_05]: And he was in a lot of pain.

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_05]: It does.

[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_05]: And just shooting the shit with a lot of people, it takes a lot of of you, like mentally.

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_05]: You gotta be on your game, you know?

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm sure he's like, and then what do you remember?

[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, usually it's alcohol fueled.

[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, exactly.

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's worth stuff.

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_05]: And even without it, you meet so many people.

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_05]: It's hard to remember every other year.

[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's a lot.

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I think most people are really good at remembering faces.

[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And honestly how a conversation made them feel.

[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_00]: So they like, they like remember an emotional input with a visual recognition.

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And so like if I see somebody, I might recognize their face and then like I kind of remember the emotion that's attached that person.

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't really remember the conversation or their name.

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_00]: At least that's what I think.

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that, you know, time in a place.

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's funny how the brain works with that and like, and like, smells.

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Here's some, or you just smell some smells.

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_05]: And I never mind, you have this in a child.

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah.

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_05]: What a really crazy, crazy connection is the brain makes.

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_02]: The smell is definitely one of them.

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, like, my smells like grandma's weird chair that she had in the room.

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it'll happen to me.

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I ran him like I didn't smell that in 18 years.

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_05]: I do.

[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_05]: I love a musty basement.

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_05]: The smell of like just sucked into that and like grew up in that and musty basement.

[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, you kids get downstairs and play in the basement.

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Leave all the, all the grownups alone.

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_05]: And man, we had a blast on there.

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I'd like to remember that smell.

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_00]: It's very not with the magic.

[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_00]: It's nostalgic.

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_00]: It's nostalgic.

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_00]: It's nostalgic.

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_00]: One that gets me that brings me back is when like it's hot.

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like a really hot day and like you smell like the hot grass.

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Like like tall grass natural wild grass.

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And there's like that certain smell that comes with it.

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_00]: It brings me back to a lot of different fields that I was standing in or like,

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_00]: you know what I was a kid.

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Even like cut grass in the sunscreen.

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Like he used up.

[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_05]: He used up.

[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_05]: He used up.

[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_05]: He used up.

[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_05]: He used up.

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_05]: He used up.

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Man.

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Top three smells.

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_00]: That's top three smells.

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know.

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know.

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Top three smells.

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_02]: So number one for me is definitely Sonoko Race Fuel.

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I love smell of Race Fuel.

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_02]: It's hard to beat.

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_02]: That's not there.

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_02]: A smell of a woman is probably for the face.

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I was going to say that.

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And then probably a food I would think like maybe a steak on the grill or something.

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_02]: That's pretty good.

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, like a risk.

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_02]: It's good list.

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going Race Fuel women and meat.

[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_02]: That's good.

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_04]: That's real, real manly list.

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_00]: That's really manly list.

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to put marijuana on my list.

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_00]: That's just good smell.

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_00]: That's one of my favorite smells for sure.

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I love the smell of dogs feet.

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Dogs feet.

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_00]: You know?

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_00]: There's something about the smell of the dogs feet.

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that's in my top three.

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's a hard question to answer.

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like you took a couple of the top three.

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Right there.

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_05]: So we all like a top my top three would be similar probably.

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_05]: So say like because I had a 68-shavelle.

[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_05]: So that old muscle car smell from when we were like,

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_05]: We used to be in the engine.

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_05]: You started this up and I always loved that.

[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Obviously women obviously marijuana but other than that.

[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_05]: We do this plenty.

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Just like you said food.

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Garlic being cooked.

[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah.

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Garlic nuts or something.

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_05]: And you feel the smell that in the whole kitchen that's there's food is such a primal thing as well.

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Top of top least favorite smells.

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I got one that look as long as I get this one off my chest.

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I think you know where I'm going with this cab.

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_00]: It's disposal units that are not properly cleaned and not properly used.

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_00]: So people just throw everything into their sink disposal.

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And then it just sits there like that smell because I used to like flip apartments with my dad.

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And some people had rank sinks and I have a hairy guy.

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And I have a hairy nose.

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And like do the smell, the smell molecule cooled with like stick and cement onto my nose.

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_00]: So where I would completely clean everything and I'll still be smelling this.

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Like later I had to go like clean like trim my nose hairs.

[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_00]: You gotta like clean the smell out.

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Clean the run side of your nose.

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_05]: And I rotten food smell.

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah that's right.

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_05]: That's bad.

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_05]: It's funny if food could be so good it's so bad and so foul.

[00:27:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And a matter of hours.

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_05]: It doesn't take real long.

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_00]: One time Kevin was telling me about how like he thinks feet can smell good but it's like

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_00]: It's right on the edge of not smell.

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like one of those things that can't be right.

[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_00]: That's a risk of getting it.

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_00]: But didn't can't.

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like right there.

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that's true.

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that's true.

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I told me that.

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I was just planning.

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Well I mean up to think the world knows I have been a foot better.

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_02]: A little bit of experience with it.

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah you're right.

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_02]: You know if you want to go lap on them toes and you're, you know they smell like dirt from the

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_02]: fucking the walk home.

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Why do people have like a fetish for dirty feet?

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Well dirty feet on them out.

[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_00]: They're all like I want you to walk through the dirt.

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_00]: It's gross.

[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Take pictures of your dirty feet.

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_05]: I saw some article today about that that Hock 2 a girl and how they say that she's one of the

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_05]: girl.

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Like they're saying that she has some feet that everybody's wants to look at her and like

[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_05]: this is news now.

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Where would we be?

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Apparently she's got one of like the top three you're surched.

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Feet.

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Somewhere.

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe I read it wrong.

[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know we're going to get censored because of that.

[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah, yeah.

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_05]: It's a weird film.

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_05]: It's information.

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_05]: It's from Hock 2.

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_05]: I just saw it today on the internet.

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_05]: I was just screwing around at work and not.

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I said it about Hock 2.

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I got a trailer.

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_02]: What site was this for science?

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I just have to make sure we have the proper information.

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_00]: What is that from always sunny in Philadelphia?

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like that's disgusting.

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Where can I find it?

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_00]: That's gross.

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm young.

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_05]: I had this guy that worked with for a while and bigger dude was living in a trailer park

[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_05]: and then at one point I think the trailer they were living in froze and all the waterlines

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_05]: in the trailer froze and cracked and they didn't have a lot of money to fix it or know how

[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_05]: or want to do it necessarily.

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_04]: It's all the components.

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_05]: It's totally lazy.

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, man he started getting real bad there for a while and that is probably the worst smell

[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_05]: I think.

[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_05]: He was tanked.

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_05]: He was not showering.

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_05]: You come to work and it's somewhat physical.

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_05]: He gets sweaty there and then go home and probably not shower again.

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_05]: His diet was terrible.

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Dude was brutal.

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_05]: You know like the peanuts cartoons where what's the guy?

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_05]: He's a big pan where he comes around.

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_05]: He's dirty and you can see it.

[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_05]: You can see the cloud.

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_05]: You could almost see the cloud around this kid and it wasn't even just like just dirty

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_05]: was like almost a visual smell around him and then he would leave the room and it

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_05]: would linger for like five minutes.

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_05]: It was unreal man.

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_05]: I thought I thought it was like just like a cartoon and it's the joke but like that's

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_05]: possible.

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_05]: That's like extreme be.

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Man I tried to help him a lot and he just couldn't see it.

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Couldn't do it.

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_05]: He had no blind maybe.

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_05]: But man it's just I couldn't handle that.

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_05]: That was probably the worst smell.

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_05]: He's like you can do something about it.

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_05]: You know what I do.

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Go to the gym, go to the Y.

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Go to whatever.

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_05]: He's easy for me to shower.

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know his.

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_05]: He's struggling either.

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Sure.

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_05]: I shouldn't be making any.

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_05]: But I worked with the guy for a while so I feel like I kind of knew.

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Dude you could have done something about that.

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_00]: What about that?

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_00]: We're not trying to kick people on their down.

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_00]: No no no.

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just trying to help.

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_01]: We get your shit together.

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Trying to help.

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_01]: It would benefit all of us.

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_00]: You take care of yourself and everyone's like you have like a you put together like a power

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_00]: and a kind of presentation on how to use the other.

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I just want to sound like that.

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_05]: I was thinking about that this morning.

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_05]: But coincidence.

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_05]: How many times do you guys swipe with the other?

[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like I'm almost obsessive compulsive to where.

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Unintentionally, I will do it the same amount of times per pit.

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Same amount of times per pit.

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_00]: It also depends on the hair length because you know sometimes I got a trim it down.

[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And so it's not as long as your modern man.

[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Definitely my man gets you.

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_00]: This is some of those.

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Some modern man's escaping.

[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And I at least do four.

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like one two or is that one?

[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Is once there and back one up down maybe?

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Is that one?

[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I think I usually count one is just one swipe either way.

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's one two three four.

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I'll do six.

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I think four is usually the number.

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_02]: And I usually try to go like in one direction.

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Really?

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_05]: I think I'm comically over.

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Over deodorant.

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Over deodorant.

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Over deodorant.

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Over deodorant.

[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_05]: I know that makes sense because sometimes I'll have some shirts be like,

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Why don't you always wait?

[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_05]: It's like white deodorant stains almost on the shirts.

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_05]: I remember.

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Is this kind of odd you know?

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_05]: So maybe I have you guys do it four.

[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm doing like 16.

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_05]: No.

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Like too much.

[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_05]: It's too much.

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Are you in 16?

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_05]: I think it's at one two three four five six.

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah.

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_02]: That's too much.

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_02]: So well sometimes it's different.

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_00]: You're like going eight.

[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_01]: What is your right shirt?

[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_01]: It will go the timing.

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_01]: What's it?

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think if you want real hard on it either.

[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I think you are over applying.

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_03]: And they are over applying deodorant.

[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_03]: And look, hey, you got a good no.

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_05]: I just don't know.

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Do you smell all right?

[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_05]: But I learned something today on this podcast.

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Well one thing that I learned is that is that you don't want to use deodorant

[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_00]: that has like a deoluminum type.

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I've heard that.

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah because it's like literally medical particles that get into your skin.

[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And then you're going to block the sweat.

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's okay to sweat.

[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like but as long as you're not stinking.

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's the battle though, right?

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Because like the anti-press print, which is the one that leaves like the white

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_02]: flaky shit, I feel like that's what stops the sweat.

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_02]: But then you still kind of wreak, you know, because you're not getting the, you don't have that.

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_02]: It smells good.

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_02]: They're still sweat there.

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_05]: And I don't know.

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know man.

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, see the one that I'm, see I'll still sweat with mine.

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Excuse me.

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_00]: But I go with like the the dove, the dry.

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't like the slick wet deodorants.

[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Like if it feels like I'm just like getting slime in my armpit.

[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Slamin the pit?

[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like why am I slamin my pit?

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Is it like a clear deodorant or less for the slimes?

[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_05]: No one like kind of clear.

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, correct.

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, these ones more like a stick that's kind of white.

[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_05]: I do prefer that as well.

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_00]: So I do the dive.

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I do the dive.

[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_00]: It has all the right ingredients.

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And as long as I don't do 16 applications, then it doesn't seem to stain my shirts.

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_05]: It's just one up.

[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Just one up.

[00:33:42] [SPEAKER_05]: So if you count that as two, then yeah, it's only eight.

[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_05]: That's got to be successful.

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_01]: That seems a little too much.

[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_01]: All excessive.

[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to be thinking about this for a while.

[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's what I was thinking about this morning.

[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Am I doing, is that too much?

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Is that and I don't even think about it.

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like sometimes they'll do eight, sometimes they'll do 16.

[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_05]: But it has to be the same number.

[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_00]: 16 is a lot.

[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like you might have a thing like where you have extra nerve endings in your armpits.

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe.

[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And it feels good.

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_00]: It feels good and that's why you're in it so long.

[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't dislike it.

[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_05]: You might be right.

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Is it as a ragen of zone?

[00:34:23] [SPEAKER_05]: I guess it could be.

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_05]: You can't absorb the knee pits.

[00:34:25] [SPEAKER_05]: It can handle correctly.

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Neapits.

[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess I never smelled any knee pits wet.

[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if it wreaks as bad as the armpit.

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think so.

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Probably not.

[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think so.

[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Because I'm not just sucked down to your side, you know?

[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_05]: It's just areas of bacteria.

[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_05]: It's true.

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I have like a 48 hour time window.

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like close to 72 hours and I start stinking.

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_02]: That's about normal.

[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Is it because I'd like to shower daily normally once a day.

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Because otherwise I feel like I break out in different places.

[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Like over one day in that showering which is kind of like surprising.

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_05]: And I don't know if I'm an even like, I'm not necessarily even the cleanest person.

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_05]: But for some reason I got to have a bunch of deal with it.

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_05]: I'll actually put shampoo in my hair.

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_05]: I'll be like every other day.

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_05]: I'll actually put shampoo in my hair.

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_05]: I'll do the shampoo one day and then the next day just kind of rinse it.

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, a little bit.

[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_00]: So I hear that's good.

[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Did you hear that?

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not good to wash your hair with hot water.

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Really?

[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Because and here's why is because it opens up your pores and it increases.

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_00]: It's hair loss.

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And so like what I've been doing because I did get on him for a little bit.

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Because I was getting thin.

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like it helped.

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_00]: But I also, whenever I wash my head, I do like cold water.

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_00]: So I start with a cold shower in the very beginning.

[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I like wash my hair cold and then I switch to hot and I get the rest of the body.

[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Interesting.

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_00]: That's not it.

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_05]: I did that on the last couple of months.

[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_05]: I heard somebody say to splash hot water in your cold water in your face

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_05]: in the mornings is good for keeping your face less wrinkled.

[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_05]: And stuff that guys never talked about 20 years ago.

[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Here we are talking about, you know?

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Cold baths.

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_04]: That's how things have changed.

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_00]: The modern man movement.

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_00]: You can be masculine and metro.

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_02]: You got to take care of yourself.

[00:36:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's important right?

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Who pays a high gene.

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_02]: No, we must look like shit.

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_02]: No.

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_05]: We're that.

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Try to keep it together.

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, some people don't give a fuck but they're kind of far in between.

[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Most people I think care about high gene.

[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Where they smell.

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_05]: I spend a lot of years in the van.

[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Not giving a fuck.

[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe that's skewed a little bit of where I'm at now too.

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Van life.

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Van life.

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_05]: You start sitting in the van with a bunch of stinky dudes.

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_05]: You kind of get tired of that some overtime.

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_05]: And you guys feet stink, you know?

[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_04]: So maybe there's part of it.

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Old socks.

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe somebody can't on the road.

[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_05]: You spill like it.

[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_05]: So he spills a beer and then that beer smell starts to...

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah.

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_00]: That's one of my least careful smells, too.

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_05]: It's awful.

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_05]: It's horrible.

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_00]: But I think about lights like really stinky.

[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_00]: But when you go like when you go keystone,

[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_00]: or keysstone dried up, keysstone.

[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Or like somebody threw up the keystone and then they did.

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And then they didn't clean it up.

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the moment.

[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't clean it up.

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_02]: That's my time to re-were smell.

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_02]: That's the point.

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_02]: We missed that one.

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_05]: The keysstone vomit.

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_05]: We played punk rock bollian Vegas.

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_05]: I was drinking margaritas at the pool.

[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_05]: And I had some vans on.

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_05]: And I put them by the thing.

[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think I must have knocked that my cup over because I think that whole margaritas

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_05]: spilled on one of my shoes.

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_05]: And when I put them on, what was wet and it was the worst smell I had ever...

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_05]: It was like a touching mango margarita.

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_05]: And it just reaked after sitting in my shoe all night.

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Through those away.

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Gone.

[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_05]: It's no saving these.

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_05]: It's not worth it.

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_00]: How to give rid of the murder.

[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_00]: You just need to get that to go.

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Are they jail?

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_05]: I asked the shoe on that too.

[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_05]: It was just funny.

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_05]: How did I throw my shoes away?

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Somehow you lost one.

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_05]: How does this happen to guys?

[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_00]: They're coming threes.

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_05]: We're old enough to know better than this.

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_04]: But Vegas.

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Vegas too.

[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_00]: So you have never officially like, I've only driven through Vegas.

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I've never actually stopped.

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_00]: And like, I'm like, I'm not a party mode type of guy right now.

[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_00]: So I think I would want to go for like some of the entertainment.

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the shows.

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_00]: And like I'm not a big gambler either.

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_00]: But like, the food would probably be fun.

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_00]: The entertainment.

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_00]: You know?

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_05]: I usually go for drinking and...

[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Is it extended?

[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Are they to hotels expensive?

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_05]: No.

[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Not really.

[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think so.

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Everything is relatively...

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Relatively cheap, I suppose.

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Especially if you're just gambling a little bit to get free drinks, along as your patient.

[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_02]: That's going to be a patient.

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_02]: That's a number of like one to an hour.

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they'd have fleece.

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Spacing you out a bit.

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Probably three, please.

[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Yep.

[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_05]: You got a tip fat.

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Here's a couple extra bucks.

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Come around a little bit more.

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Uh-huh.

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Hopefully.

[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_00]: See my problem with gambling is I want to like get that big hit.

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And so, like I end up losing a shit ton of money really quickly.

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_00]: That's gambling.

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_00]: The only time that I've ever made money gambling was when I played a blackjack.

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_00]: It was playing 21.

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_00]: That was the only time I ever actually made money gambling.

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Every single other time I went and I've lost.

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I watched you in million horses.

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess that is gambling.

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_00]: That is.

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_00]: That was so much fun.

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Have you ever went horse betting?

[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Man, what do you think of it?

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a simple.

[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_05]: There is something fun about it.

[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's exciting as well.

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, you got your horses.

[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, alright, I got the, you know, exacto box bet.

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_02]: The Quenilla on the seven and the three horse and you're sitting a route

[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_02]: them on.

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_02]: They come to line and you lose.

[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah, definitely.

[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_05]: I've been with my uncles in California a few, maybe a year ago or something like that.

[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we were at, but we had a good time.

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Just drinking beers, hanging out with family to blast.

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_05]: We had a blast after the rate.

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, cheap bet, dude, is just something fun to do.

[00:39:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Something different.

[00:39:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, a blast.

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_00]: See, here's the thing with gamblers.

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_00]: That this is for you.

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Anyone that's listening?

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I believe that the second you put your money down to gamble it, you have to consider

[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_00]: it gone because some people are sitting here.

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_00]: They're like, oh, I lost, you know, 2k.

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I got to get my money back.

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like your money doesn't fucking exist anymore.

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_05]: It's not your money.

[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_05]: It's gone.

[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_00]: You're not getting your money back.

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you already gambled, your money is gone now.

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like there's that attachment to it where people don't want to let go of

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_00]: their money.

[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_00]: You even know they already did.

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Like so.

[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like that's one area for gamblers to really help themselves not continue

[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_00]: to gamble more.

[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_02]: You tell those gambling addicts that?

[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we've all been on a flight home from Vegas.

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_02]: There's quite sad faces on that plane.

[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, man, how am I going to make the mortgage this month?

[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_00]: That's roughly what you're doing stuff like that.

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_02]: That's where it gets really bad.

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_02]: And gambling is a big problem.

[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Now that sports gambling's legal here in Elis and Colorado, which I partaken on like

[00:40:54] [SPEAKER_02]: fan do, I don't use fan do, I'll use draft kings.

[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Super easy.

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, you just boom, 100 bucks in, gamble, gamble, gamble.

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_02]: And I support, I mean gambling should be legal.

[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think we should take it out of the hands of people, even though sports gambling

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_02]: is still illegal in certain states.

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Just weird.

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Like you can't use draft kings if you're in a certain zip code.

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_02]: And Texas and stuff like that.

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Texas is one.

[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I think Missouri was another one.

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_02]: It's called a state, so we're just on board with that yet.

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm all about the draft kings because then you're not getting a book he involved.

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_02]: You're not going and doing some underground shit.

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_02]: You're just, you know, you're square.

[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_02]: There you go.

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, that makes sense.

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, why would that be an issue?

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_05]: People can make their own decisions.

[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_05]: That's what freedom.

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_05]: America.

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_05]: You can make all the bad decisions you want.

[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_05]: That's a beauty.

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_05]: The story may go all the good decisions you want.

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's like live a good balanced life and do both.

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I really do moderation.

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I really do moderation.

[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I think a bunch of bad decisions, hopefully when you're younger.

[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And then when you start getting older, then you're like, okay, let's start

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_00]: and tighten the shit up.

[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_00]: But here's the thing is, like, you know, I'm 37 recovered,

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_00]: pain killer addict and all this other shit.

[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_00]: And I am enjoying my life more now than I did when I was all fucking doped up.

[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And like I had no priorities back then other than getting high,

[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_00]: like life is better now.

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I should still do a little weed and stuff, but sure.

[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_00]: But that's, you know, not necessarily.

[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_00]: We get to pass for cyber.

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone's like, yeah, we'd school.

[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_05]: It's, well, I saw a sticker once.

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_05]: There was like, uh, God created weed, man created beer.

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Who do you trust?

[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, okay.

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_05]: You mean, I think that's pretty good.

[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_05]: That's pretty good.

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_05]: That's pretty good.

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_05]: I was going to put on the guitar case.

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_05]: I was going to, I figured I was going to, I was going to say something else.

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_05]: It doesn't matter.

[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_05]: It doesn't even matter.

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, look, opioids are not good.

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Like all the oxy cotton shit is bullshit.

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And then you know,

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_00]: and honestly drinking is kind of fucking stupid too.

[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like it can be fun.

[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And I still have some wine every once in a while,

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_00]: but I don't really drink beer anymore or hard liquor because it just doesn't treat me well.

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_00]: It just really doesn't.

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And I honestly can't, congratulations on, on the progress you've made.

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I think you've done that journey through the man because he's rocking a roll on that.

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And Kevin's doing shit that people will go,

[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_00]: that doesn't make sense because he sells booze.

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I do with the day to.

[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_00]: For his day job.

[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Man, that's tough.

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Ken B.

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Can be for some people.

[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah.

[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm doing a little bit on characteristically.

[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I have a household of booze, you know,

[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_02]: working the wine spirits industry, which we sell the party,

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_02]: but I'm not partaking it.

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_02]: You know?

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_02]: So I guess for some people that the temptations are tougher than others.

[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_02]: And then doing this, like I was telling you off mic,

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_02]: you know, that's where I started.

[00:43:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Not drinking on the show before I quit completely.

[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Because this used to be a free fry commander just get fucking wrecked.

[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_00]: We used to, you know, the court has gotten wasted.

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Because there's just come on, bring a bottle of whiskey and get fucking hands.

[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_04]: And those were the fun times we had a lot of fun.

[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_04]: That was the last podcast I did.

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, trash.

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I could probably get time.

[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_05]: It was the worst.

[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_05]: I had a great time.

[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm having a great time now though.

[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Also by not sure, not drinking the entire time.

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just different.

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just a little different.

[00:43:57] [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, you don't need alcohol to have fun,

[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_02]: but alcohol can definitely add some fun.

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you're playing a show, whatever you got people bringing shots.

[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, you get in the zone.

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_02]: But you're not going to get so shnockered that you can't perform.

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and not, you know, I can, well, not drink more than.

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Not anymore.

[00:44:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Not anymore.

[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_05]: I learned that lesson a few years ago.

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_02]: So before the friction is you played in another rock band?

[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Was it rock ones?

[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_05]: It was more of like a pro rock.

[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Metal band almost me and the drummer Sam.

[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_05]: We have similar music tastes for a lot of weird stuff.

[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Weird is like the new catchy, you know, like it's weird at first everybody.

[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I don't even know if I like that.

[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_05]: And then you hear it enough times like, oh, wait, that's something different.

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_05]: It's really good.

[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's what I would him and not he and I strive to find for a lot of different music.

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_05]: We don't always listen to what we play necessarily.

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_05]: But we listen a lot of different stuff.

[00:44:49] [SPEAKER_05]: And that pulls in different inspiration creative ideas.

[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_05]: It was that band before that.

[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_05]: And I took some time off between bands in there too.

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_05]: I've been playing a band since I was like 15.

[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_00]: You 80s baby?

[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, 82.

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, nice.

[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_00]: You're like the same age as my brother.

[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_00]: That's nice.

[00:45:11] [SPEAKER_00]: It's good age.

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:45:15] [SPEAKER_05]: I'll be 41, which is wild.

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_05]: That is crazy.

[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_05]: How did that happen?

[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_00]: You survived.

[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_05]: I made it.

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_05]: You made it.

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_05]: I made it.

[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Because there's ones that didn't get it this far.

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Rest in peace.

[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_00]: It's true, man.

[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Getting older is not bad.

[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_05]: It's most a lot of people don't get too age to this age anyway.

[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's true.

[00:45:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's when you get older and you don't accept that life is full of cycles.

[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And then you're staying stuck in an old way of life that honestly, like you're in a different cycle in your life now.

[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And we can't control when cycles begin and end.

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_00]: They just happen.

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_00]: True.

[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like some people get stuck and then they want to be living in their 20s.

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_00]: But really they're in their 40s and then they're like miserable because they don't know why they can't find happiness now.

[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Because they're not living in the present.

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_05]: You got to grow, right?

[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_05]: You got to keep moving forward.

[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_05]: That's got to be the key to life, right?

[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Keep moving forward.

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Keep progressing.

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Uh-huh.

[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Anybody can stagnate and just do nothing.

[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's easy.

[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Right?

[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_02]: That's easy.

[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Just exist.

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_05]: And it gets awful that way.

[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_05]: You don't know what he wants to do that.

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_05]: But people do it.

[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_05]: It's true.

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm a five chronically lazy.

[00:46:25] [SPEAKER_05]: I've tried to beat it out of myself as much as I can, you know?

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_05]: And like, I still feel like I'm lazy but I've got to, you know, I'm banned and playing all the time.

[00:46:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I've put a lot of time into work.

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_05]: We're always practicing and doing and going to shows and promoting.

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm definitely not, not lazy.

[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_05]: But I'm always not doing anything.

[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_05]: You're not doing anything.

[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_05]: You've got to let a lot of stuff go on.

[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_05]: But I still feel like sometimes like, man, get up and what are you doing?

[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_05]: I can really just waste and sometimes.

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_05]: And a little bit more, it's more pronounced.

[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_05]: What are you doing?

[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Get up.

[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Go do something.

[00:46:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Go, go, go, go, rub elbows with somebody or, you know, just something.

[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_05]: We all crave it.

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Typically though, like when it ties to you're like your ban, that's something that you're excited about passion about.

[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_02]: You're like, we got, the friction is worked tonight.

[00:47:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm ready.

[00:47:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm there.

[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on time to do this.

[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Because that's, you know, it's fine in something you're extremely passionate about, right?

[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_02]: It gives you, like, you know, I think that's the big thing for some people.

[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_02]: So just worked on 95, go home.

[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Don't have a podcast, do you don't have a band plan?

[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_02]: That's where we can start for them.

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe they're raising the kids, you know, and then that's just life for them.

[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_02]: And then what's the kids doing?

[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, they're older.

[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_02]: They're looking at social media.

[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_02]: You're looking at social media.

[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Watching Fox News, you know, getting angry about the world, whatever, right?

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_02]: It's fine in that thing that gets you excited to wake up early and we'll be hunting on Sunday or whatever it is.

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_02]: It's true.

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_05]: It's true.

[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_05]: It's, you have to have a hobby of some sort.

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_05]: There's a lot, like I said, there's a lot of years there where I wasn't playing music.

[00:47:44] [SPEAKER_05]: I kind of burnt out and, and weird things happened in the industry for me that ran into.

[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_05]: And some of them are my own causing but just odd shit.

[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_05]: But it's been a lot of years they're not doing any music really and I drove myself crazy.

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_05]: I was drinking too much.

[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_05]: I was doing whatever drugs.

[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_05]: It was, it was just too wild.

[00:48:04] [SPEAKER_05]: I need to have some kind of outlet.

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_05]: And if I imagine most people are like that, they don't know how to maybe express that.

[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's painting.

[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe maybe it's like bird watching or something.

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Or like, like doing, it's just we have to do something beyond what we do to make money.

[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Because then if we're just living for that paycheck and that's all we're doing on a day,

[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I was productive.

[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I worked.

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Well you worked for the man.

[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_00]: You didn't work for yourself.

[00:48:33] [SPEAKER_00]: You didn't do anything for yourself.

[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_00]: And you have years of not doing anything for yourself.

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Then you end up, you end up, come miserable.

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_00]: That's true.

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_02]: That was like crisis has happened because then they realized, oh my days are limited.

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_02]: People start buying Corvettes.

[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_02]: People start divorcing.

[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Because you have, there's nothing else to talk about anymore.

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_05]: True.

[00:48:54] [SPEAKER_05]: And maybe that's why everybody's getting divorced.

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, like, they don't need to.

[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_05]: You need to have something.

[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Find something.

[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_00]: When they get into the space from your partner.

[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like a successful relationship.

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Kevin and I have been in a successful friendship relationship for 15 years or something.

[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_00]: And we don't always spend all the time together.

[00:49:13] [SPEAKER_00]: But same with like an romantic relationship, you can't just be dependent on being with that person all the time.

[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_05]: You can't smell that person.

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_05]: You can't depend on someone for your happiness.

[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_05]: That's great.

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_05]: It's got to have some of that in your own.

[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Because nobody's going to make you happy.

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Not 100%.

[00:49:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:49:32] [SPEAKER_05]: No.

[00:49:32] [SPEAKER_05]: And then you just in those things that just start driving you crazy.

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if it's, it's a weird world out there.

[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's got very strange in the last 50 years.

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sure I haven't been around that long.

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Just in my lifetime.

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, we're almost like changing technology.

[00:49:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Like because we saw it all the dark car bubble.

[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_05]: We go out on bikes when we were kids or just begun to drill that.

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_05]: It goes really fast.

[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_05]: No, it didn't work.

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_05]: We're even exist.

[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Be back later.

[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_05]: We'll see you know.

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_05]: And the weak kids got weeded out and taken into vans like the candy man.

[00:50:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_05]: The candy man.

[00:50:08] [SPEAKER_05]: He's stupid.

[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_05]: He didn't even care.

[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_01]: He never saw him again.

[00:50:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:50:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.

[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_01]: That's so.

[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the pork rocker.

[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_01]: That's terrible.

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_04]: The same thing.

[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_04]: It's a provocative.

[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:50:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Just like those jokes should exist.

[00:50:21] [SPEAKER_02]: They should exist and that's why comedy I love comedy because it's like.

[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_02]: We went through this weird period with comedy in the last 20 years where it went from

[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_02]: exactly what we just described to everything's offensive to now it's starting to come back.

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_02]: We're starting to normalize jokes again because they're just jokes.

[00:50:35] [SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like every comedian is like they're just jokes people.

[00:50:37] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, they always have to like preface it with that.

[00:50:39] [SPEAKER_02]: This isn't like a PSA.

[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not running for political office here.

[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_02]: We're just making jokes.

[00:50:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's get back to that.

[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think we need more comedy and laughter and it's okay to poke fun.

[00:50:48] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, there's a line where it becomes a little bit insulting or you know, hate speech, so to speak.

[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_02]: But everyone deserves a little bit of fun poke datum.

[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I think we've lost that.

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_02]: We've got a little sensitive.

[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_02]: And it makes people humble.

[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_05]: And talking about it, it makes makes me wonder like if the internet, what we were like to bring

[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_05]: back for what everybody can say whatever they want on the internet.

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_05]: And my generation, the generation forward didn't have it in that before.

[00:51:11] [SPEAKER_05]: So some things are getting said that are meant to be.

[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Pride.

[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, not necessarily Pride would like kind of a joke in a way that you say on the internet,

[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_05]: but they take it so seriously.

[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Because you don't realize it's a joke because you can't read sarcasm on a text and,

[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah, things can be taken so funny in different ways.

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_05]: And now, maybe because the newer generation has had the internet for so long and people are used to the

[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_05]: internet now that we are coming back to where oh yeah, jokes are okay again.

[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_05]: We can make jokes in the internet that are off-color and insensitive and not get completely offended and

[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_05]: rant for a paragraph on why you shouldn't have said that.

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Right man, like what a what a what a tiring existence that is too, where someone can say something

[00:51:52] [SPEAKER_05]: and ruin your whole day, that's mind control.

[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you're allowing people to control your mind through the sounds that come out of their word hole.

[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, that's like the people give so reactive on it like just slow down a minute.

[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Why are you giving this person so much credit to where they can they can ruin your day?

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, noticeably upset man, like that sounds awful.

[00:52:16] [SPEAKER_05]: That sounds like an awful way to take you to go around.

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think he's summed it up pretty well there.

[00:52:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Like looking at it from a bird's eye, like you're really going to let this nonsense.

[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_02]: That's always existed.

[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_02]: You're like just ruin your day.

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_02]: You don't want to go out.

[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_05]: You didn't see it and I've watched so much stuff on the internet.

[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_05]: What I think Ricky Javez said something like how how how how overinflated is your ego to where

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_05]: you think that you can go through life and not be offended.

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_05]: People can't say things that offend you because you think you shouldn't come on.

[00:52:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, who are you?

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a very selfish approach.

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you can't look outside yourself and see it's a joke and just get over it.

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_05]: It's so wild man, what a different time.

[00:52:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I think the internet really kind of corrupted that though for people.

[00:53:00] [SPEAKER_02]: They lost touch with that.

[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_02]: We were ready for it.

[00:53:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no.

[00:53:03] [SPEAKER_02]: It happened very fast.

[00:53:04] [SPEAKER_02]: It was not ready for what it is.

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_02]: No.

[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_02]: It's social media.

[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_02]: It happened so fast and everybody hasn't opinion everyone's being compared to celebrities

[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_02]: and comparing lives and they're not even real.

[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, real.

[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_02]: That's not really the influencers.

[00:53:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, all this is fake.

[00:53:18] [SPEAKER_05]: All the lighting, all the filters and stuff they can do now.

[00:53:23] [SPEAKER_05]: AI stuff too.

[00:53:24] [SPEAKER_00]: So one thing I like to do to get my point across when texting because yeah,

[00:53:29] [SPEAKER_00]: people will misread your texts.

[00:53:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I don't know.

[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you.

[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I come in with the emojis nowadays.

[00:53:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll come in and like lighten it up with the emoji.

[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like it adds that extra layer,

[00:53:44] [SPEAKER_00]: especially if you're talking to somebody who doesn't really know you.

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but like you're getting to know somebody or it's like,

[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_05]: say some snarky and then leave the little winky face.

[00:53:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like just like I'm playing around the asshole.

[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, you're an asshole.

[00:53:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm playing around.

[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's not right.

[00:54:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Correcting a man emoji.

[00:54:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Whatever.

[00:54:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Whatever.

[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_01]: That exists.

[00:54:06] [SPEAKER_01]: This is really good.

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I got to find that one.

[00:54:08] [SPEAKER_01]: That's on there.

[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:54:10] [SPEAKER_02]: To your point, it's kind of changed communication a little bit.

[00:54:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Gifts.

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I got used a lot of gifts.

[00:54:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I really like responding to people with gifts that aren't prepared for it.

[00:54:17] [SPEAKER_02]: True.

[00:54:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I even do it in some professional environments.

[00:54:20] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, there's a time to place for everything.

[00:54:21] [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't always have to be buttoned up this.

[00:54:22] [SPEAKER_02]: This is how we are.

[00:54:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we have a little fun.

[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we can have some fun.

[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, texting.

[00:54:26] [SPEAKER_02]: But see, then the acronyms, you know,

[00:54:28] [SPEAKER_02]: BRB, you know, go back to the AOL and some messenger days.

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_02]: LOL, BRB, over some of the OG acronyms.

[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Now, there's too many.

[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what any of the shit means.

[00:54:38] [SPEAKER_02]: WTF was an OG.

[00:54:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Now there's an acronym for everything.

[00:54:40] [SPEAKER_02]: And people will speak in acronyms and full sentences.

[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, all right.

[00:54:43] [SPEAKER_02]: That's too much.

[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, this is meant for texting.

[00:54:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:54:47] [SPEAKER_00]: For writing something out.

[00:54:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Too much.

[00:54:49] [SPEAKER_00]: It's too much.

[00:54:49] [SPEAKER_05]: But you're saving so much time by not saying words.

[00:54:52] [SPEAKER_05]: No, no, you're not really.

[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_02]: There was an episode of the office where Kevin Malone was trying to do that.

[00:54:57] [SPEAKER_02]: He was trying to save time.

[00:54:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Me hungry.

[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_02]: That's right.

[00:55:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Kind of a little bit.

[00:55:02] [SPEAKER_02]: That show.

[00:55:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Go back to Ricky Dervais.

[00:55:04] [SPEAKER_02]: But he kind of, one of the original writers of that program.

[00:55:08] [SPEAKER_02]: He read and he did the original office in the UK.

[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I never watched all that one.

[00:55:13] [SPEAKER_05]: I've seen a few of my hand watched all the other.

[00:55:15] [SPEAKER_05]: It's a funny.

[00:55:16] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just different kinds of it's UK humor compared to an I love British humor.

[00:55:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so dry cut to point.

[00:55:22] [SPEAKER_02]: And they don't get as offended.

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I would.

[00:55:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't hang out with Brits much but I would imagine.

[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_05]: It seems like some of the humor.

[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you can you can push some things a little differently there.

[00:55:31] [SPEAKER_02]: They call each other counts.

[00:55:32] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, when cares.

[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:55:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe that's cultural because we don't like that word.

[00:55:37] [SPEAKER_05]: That's true.

[00:55:38] [SPEAKER_05]: But they use it and every a lot of other people do.

[00:55:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know English is my girlfriend's second language.

[00:55:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And one time we were like watching a show and they said,

[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Come on. She's like, what's that word?

[00:55:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, that word is a no go.

[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Is it no go?

[00:55:51] [SPEAKER_00]: If you want to offend a woman, like you say that word.

[00:55:56] [SPEAKER_00]: It's worse than bitch is what I was like,

[00:55:58] [SPEAKER_00]: What I was telling her.

[00:55:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm really described as someone that doesn't know what it means.

[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. Yeah.

[00:56:01] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just wild.

[00:56:02] [SPEAKER_00]: No, but back to your point.

[00:56:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, first of all, I'm so happy that I grew up with limited technology

[00:56:09] [SPEAKER_00]: and screens in my face.

[00:56:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:56:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm so happy for that.

[00:56:12] [SPEAKER_00]: But then also like the fact that you're talking about people getting so offended

[00:56:18] [SPEAKER_00]: and like allowing one moment to ruin their whole day.

[00:56:22] [SPEAKER_00]: So and then they just live perpetually upset.

[00:56:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Like people who are going to get upset and like,

[00:56:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Look, somebody could say something that bothers me.

[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_00]: But like I'm going to move on.

[00:56:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to focus on this all day.

[00:56:34] [SPEAKER_00]: People who are getting upset about what other people say are just upset all day long about something.

[00:56:40] [SPEAKER_05]: About some random stranger in the same thing.

[00:56:43] [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, they're going to be great.

[00:56:44] [SPEAKER_05]: It's going to bleed over into the rest of life and yeah.

[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Man, that's just too short for that.

[00:56:50] [SPEAKER_05]: There's been a lot of years angry being a punk rock band.

[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_05]: I spend a lot of years angry.

[00:56:56] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's just like, I have man.

[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_05]: So glad I'm not in that state.

[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I can relate to that.

[00:57:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I spend a lot of my years angry and I don't even know what I was angry about.

[00:57:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Just finding shit to be pissed off about because that felt fucked up.

[00:57:07] [SPEAKER_02]: This is bullshit.

[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_05]: This is bullshit.

[00:57:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Everything you need in it is.

[00:57:11] [SPEAKER_00]: But like how long do we want to focus on that?

[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's at some point like then do something about it.

[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, it's like bitching.

[00:57:17] [SPEAKER_05]: You can't bitch about it.

[00:57:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Do something or shut the fuck up.

[00:57:24] [SPEAKER_05]: That's the promo clip.

[00:57:27] [SPEAKER_02]: It's true though.

[00:57:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah, you do something or shut the fuck up.

[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we can also hear in bits, moan and complain about what's going on.

[00:57:34] [SPEAKER_02]: And like in most of the shit that we're complaining about with no control over.

[00:57:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Whether it's political, whether it's what happening overseas.

[00:57:38] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I don't even have a opinion about that's fine but like,

[00:57:40] [SPEAKER_02]: you know, we don't need to shut down the happy hour for it.

[00:57:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Right now we're still here to have fun.

[00:57:44] [SPEAKER_05]: We're still yelling at each other in across the room over things and stuff that doesn't

[00:57:48] [SPEAKER_05]: change then.

[00:57:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Like right now in my job is we're talking about how it's a there's an election coming up.

[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_05]: So it's a weird slowdown because no one knows what's going to happen.

[00:57:57] [SPEAKER_05]: The economy could change and things could just like, sure.

[00:58:01] [SPEAKER_05]: But but you know, the president has a certain amount of power but nothing really changes when

[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_05]: when people swap the guard.

[00:58:08] [SPEAKER_05]: We don't stop manufacturing and we don't stop doing the jobs we do.

[00:58:14] [SPEAKER_05]: America's not built a stop.

[00:58:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Why are we way every four years do I got to go through this cycle to where?

[00:58:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, we don't know what's going to happen because the election.

[00:58:21] [SPEAKER_05]: I can tell it's going to happen.

[00:58:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Nothing's going to happen.

[00:58:23] [SPEAKER_05]: We're going to move on with our lives after everybody's in there.

[00:58:25] [SPEAKER_05]: They're going to get over it in a few months and what it's just crazy.

[00:58:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's predictable.

[00:58:30] [SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy.

[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_02]: People with bitch mode complain.

[00:58:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.

[00:58:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Then the dust will settle.

[00:58:33] [SPEAKER_02]: The smoke will clear everything's fine.

[00:58:35] [SPEAKER_02]: And the stock up.

[00:58:35] [SPEAKER_02]: And you all know it.

[00:58:36] [SPEAKER_05]: But somehow we all play into the into the same thing.

[00:58:41] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.

[00:58:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:58:42] [SPEAKER_00]: It's perpetuating drama.

[00:58:44] [SPEAKER_00]: So in this book, the four agreements they talk about the agreements that you want to make is being

[00:58:49] [SPEAKER_00]: impeccable with your word.

[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's the only one I'm going to focus on right now.

[00:58:52] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the very first one.

[00:58:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And what they talk about that is like, what are you saying?

[00:58:57] [SPEAKER_00]: What does your saying have?

[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_00]: What are you trying to make happen with your words?

[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_00]: We get to choose whatever you want.

[00:59:04] [SPEAKER_00]: But what you say out loud is different.

[00:59:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And so being impeccable with your word is like removing talking about drama or like,

[00:59:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:59:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, did you see that person's outfit?

[00:59:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, that type of surface level shit is so stupid.

[00:59:19] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's one of the most common ways that humans relate with the one another and like,

[00:59:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And like bond is through talking shit about stuff.

[00:59:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And so, so we love company.

[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_00]: So back to the political shit, like they want to have this division and like create all

[00:59:34] [SPEAKER_00]: this extra shit because someone's making money off of it somewhere.

[00:59:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:59:38] [SPEAKER_00]: At the end of the day.

[00:59:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:59:39] [SPEAKER_05]: That's what it always is, right?

[00:59:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Why is this thing the way it is money?

[00:59:43] [SPEAKER_05]: It's always the answer money.

[00:59:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Power.

[00:59:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Power.

[00:59:46] [SPEAKER_05]: What's the equals money?

[00:59:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:59:48] [SPEAKER_05]: It's always the same.

[00:59:50] [SPEAKER_02]: It's unfortunate.

[00:59:51] [SPEAKER_02]: And I try to think like, I was actually about this really today when we look at like American politics, for example.

[00:59:56] [SPEAKER_02]: When it was the last time we were truly, like we felt united or everyone was like,

[01:00:00] [SPEAKER_02]: My fellow American, my neighbor, like we're getting along.

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Come on for a barbecue.

[01:00:04] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I mean, that still happens a lot.

[01:00:05] [SPEAKER_02]: That's saying that's gone.

[01:00:06] [SPEAKER_00]: The English and go-clad.

[01:00:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking like 9-11.

[01:00:09] [SPEAKER_02]: 9-11.

[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone kind of came together.

[01:00:11] [SPEAKER_02]: There was American flags on every street.

[01:00:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:00:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And then like since then, we talked about social media all that now it's just like, oh no,

[01:00:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't talk to Robert anymore because he believes it would I don't believe.

[01:00:21] [SPEAKER_02]: So what do you mean, you don't talk?

[01:00:22] [SPEAKER_00]: You put up one post and now he does.

[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_00]: That was a friend for 20 years.

[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_02]: No, they're not talking because they have different political views.

[01:00:28] [SPEAKER_00]: That's also this set.

[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what's also shitty about the internet is like then people cut each other off but like

[01:00:33] [SPEAKER_00]: if they had these conversations in person, they'd probably find common ground.

[01:00:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[01:00:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And maybe actually learn a couple things by because when you sit and have a conversation with

[01:00:43] [SPEAKER_00]: somebody with something that you disagree with them about and you talk to them respectfully,

[01:00:48] [SPEAKER_00]: then you actually like your perspective changes on that subject a little bit.

[01:00:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And you kind of learn some things.

[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_00]: You might not fully get swayed but you might have a different understanding like okay, I could kind of see

[01:00:58] [SPEAKER_00]: that.

[01:00:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's okay to disagree.

[01:01:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Like a green to disagree is something that we don't do anymore as a society because you have

[01:01:04] [SPEAKER_02]: a keyboard word words that's like I'm done with you blocked or whatever.

[01:01:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Like there's no real okay, you know we're not going to agree on this.

[01:01:10] [SPEAKER_02]: You know think about sports rivalries right?

[01:01:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I grew up in the New England area so red socks Yankees big deal with team you know sports

[01:01:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Riley still to this day kind of have that it's like you can root for different teams

[01:01:20] [SPEAKER_02]: but we're all still going to have a hot dog and a beer.

[01:01:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I just want to get back to that agreed.

[01:01:25] [SPEAKER_05]: It's was a I don't know and maybe I didn't notice as much of them younger.

[01:01:30] [SPEAKER_05]: You know it felt like it was like we were better when we were younger.

[01:01:34] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sure we all felt that way right now.

[01:01:36] [SPEAKER_05]: No, so we're all united as a country but it's it's just so many layers of weird stuff over time is to get older.

[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_05]: It's true you know.

[01:01:44] [SPEAKER_02]: That's why we have things like music, you know.

[01:01:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like music is the soundtrack life.

[01:01:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I go with David that listen into music.

[01:01:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I really don't think I have.

[01:01:51] [SPEAKER_00]: My day is not as good when I don't.

[01:01:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I've noticed this the days that I am playing music out of the speaker,

[01:01:57] [SPEAKER_00]: while I'm doing whatever that day is generally much better than the days when I don't have any music on it all.

[01:02:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I've noticed that recently.

[01:02:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's crucial.

[01:02:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Man's primal too.

[01:02:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Breeze people together go back to the old camp fire days of dance around beaten on rocks and shit.

[01:02:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's it.

[01:02:12] [SPEAKER_05]: It's something about it that is amazing how it can you know sync up with the heartbeat and some people can just naturally create it.

[01:02:21] [SPEAKER_05]: You do off of anything you know like you said hitting rocks together or some people can sing really well

[01:02:26] [SPEAKER_05]: even animals can do it you know birds can sing and and when what is it for you know why how do we figure that we can do this and why do we do it because it feels good and

[01:02:37] [SPEAKER_05]: That's just a you know how did we how did we get to that who figured that one out and why do we have it and why can it be even like we said across

[01:02:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Animals and if you know whales singing in the ocean shit.

[01:02:51] [SPEAKER_05]: It's it's a crazy force that I don't feel like we fully understand that's true.

[01:02:55] [SPEAKER_05]: You know it's it's almost it's like magic sometimes it can feel like magic when you're at the show and things just line up perfect and you're seeing your your favorite band played goosebumps happen.

[01:03:06] [SPEAKER_05]: What a what an amazing incredible magic trick.

[01:03:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, really is it's a word for that too like when you get goosebumps from music they call that something.

[01:03:16] [SPEAKER_02]: It's an actual physical thing that is happening.

[01:03:19] [SPEAKER_05]: That's such a it's such a cool thing man.

[01:03:21] [SPEAKER_00]: The way you described that almost gave me goosebumps.

[01:03:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I was feeling that and Ferguson has got some some shows coming up.

[01:03:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, well we're playing the 17th it's a autism benefit nice at because everybody who plays a band in practice space.

[01:03:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Not not in our space but another space as to play his daughters got autism.

[01:03:41] [SPEAKER_05]: So it's close to his heart.

[01:03:42] [SPEAKER_05]: It's going to be a great show there's a lot of really great bands that are playing it's good cause.

[01:03:47] [SPEAKER_05]: That was at ratio overland down kind of south.

[01:03:50] [SPEAKER_00]: That's a cool venue.

[01:03:52] [SPEAKER_05]: It's really neat it's really really red spot and everybody there's super cool.

[01:03:56] [SPEAKER_05]: We've played a couple different shows there and had had a blast and every single one.

[01:04:01] [SPEAKER_05]: So looking forward to that one.

[01:04:04] [SPEAKER_05]: We got some other shows in the road we've been just kind of doing little one offs here there.

[01:04:07] [SPEAKER_05]: We've played Florida a few times we're playing Des Moines again in September 29th.

[01:04:12] [SPEAKER_05]: It's day before my birthday.

[01:04:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[01:04:34] [SPEAKER_05]: We've been playing the song for the first time.

[01:04:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's been a long run in joke and it's kind of turned into a thing with the bands too.

[01:04:43] [SPEAKER_05]: The frackishiner's.

[01:04:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah we tried to say for anyone who has a band that's been playing it.

[01:04:45] [SPEAKER_05]: I think someone came with the Fedachini's lately.

[01:04:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Fedachini's really.

[01:04:51] [SPEAKER_00]: See that's not overthinking it and not taking it too seriously.

[01:04:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah people are having fun with it man.

[01:04:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Nobody says our name writer spells it right anyway.

[01:04:59] [SPEAKER_05]: So let's make a joke.

[01:05:01] [SPEAKER_00]: That's hilarious, I love that.

[01:05:02] [SPEAKER_00]: That is.

[01:05:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Well definitely a great live show.

[01:05:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Kevin I have both seen frackishiner's for Chinese.

[01:05:08] [SPEAKER_00]: A couple times.

[01:05:09] [SPEAKER_05]: You guys have been huge supporters of the band.

[01:05:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you very much.

[01:05:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:05:12] [SPEAKER_02]: It's very cool.

[01:05:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely love it.

[01:05:13] [SPEAKER_02]: You guys are doing love the local music scene and happy Friday, fantastic week.

[01:05:17] [SPEAKER_02]: You know we open and close the show with you guys every week.

[01:05:19] [SPEAKER_02]: We listen to the song before we go on like it's part of the show.

[01:05:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Nice.

[01:05:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah I do appreciate it.

[01:05:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Like they're all front and wakes up in things that song to me on frackish.

[01:05:28] [SPEAKER_01]: He's like happy frackish.

[01:05:30] [SPEAKER_01]: My mom hated it at the beginning.

[01:05:31] [SPEAKER_01]: He's punk rock.

[01:05:32] [SPEAKER_02]: She sings all the time now.

[01:05:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.

[01:05:33] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like it's like it's a bit.

[01:05:34] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a pride.

[01:05:36] [SPEAKER_02]: It's super catchy.

[01:05:37] [SPEAKER_02]: It's so simple.

[01:05:38] [SPEAKER_05]: We play it on Fridays when we have shows on frackish.

[01:05:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[01:05:41] [SPEAKER_05]: We don't play it any other days.

[01:05:42] [SPEAKER_00]: That makes sense though.

[01:05:44] [SPEAKER_00]: It makes sense.

[01:05:44] [SPEAKER_05]: It's fun dude.

[01:05:45] [SPEAKER_05]: You'll probably love it.

[01:05:46] [SPEAKER_05]: People do love it.

[01:05:47] [SPEAKER_05]: It's a short little rock and roll song and it happened with the last show we played at the

[01:05:51] [SPEAKER_05]: marquee a couple weeks back.

[01:05:55] [SPEAKER_05]: We played it in the middle of the set and then we called our own on-corer and played that song again.

[01:06:02] [SPEAKER_05]: We got to kick out of here's played happy Friday twice.

[01:06:06] [SPEAKER_05]: And you know what you even asked for the on-cours like we're going to do it

[01:06:09] [SPEAKER_05]: with the other one.

[01:06:11] [SPEAKER_05]: It's it we're cracking up about that.

[01:06:13] [SPEAKER_05]: We've done that a couple times now and that's fun.

[01:06:15] [SPEAKER_05]: You can get a chance to call for it.

[01:06:16] [SPEAKER_05]: We'll call our own on-corer.

[01:06:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I want to say I'm a music video for happy Friday.

[01:06:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, that's my app to have a little piano appearance in that live video.

[01:06:25] [SPEAKER_05]: It'd be a short short but sweet.

[01:06:26] [SPEAKER_05]: You could do so much in that time.

[01:06:28] [SPEAKER_05]: That's a good idea.

[01:06:29] [SPEAKER_05]: We've got one an idea down the pipe.

[01:06:33] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just people like fucking get out of the house.

[01:06:36] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a good time.

[01:06:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Come on, I want to go fucking raise.

[01:06:39] [SPEAKER_05]: It's like ripen his tie off and she's like fuck this time.

[01:06:42] [SPEAKER_05]: That would be a good one like not have the band in.

[01:06:44] [SPEAKER_05]: And just yeah.

[01:06:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Kind of like some of my into the outro.

[01:06:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Other people who haven't had the music.

[01:06:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah.

[01:06:48] [SPEAKER_05]: That could be something pretty cool.

[01:06:50] [SPEAKER_05]: I like it.

[01:06:50] [SPEAKER_05]: We haven't done much of that but usually us in the video.

[01:06:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Well you definitely are more than just a pretty voice.

[01:06:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Well thanks for the.

[01:06:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Appreciate it.

[01:06:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you very much.

[01:06:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Hell yeah.

[01:06:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Man thanks coming to hang out with us for a bit.

[01:07:01] [SPEAKER_02]: It's went by quick.

[01:07:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[01:07:02] [SPEAKER_05]: This is this is a blast dude.

[01:07:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I had a fun time with you guys.

[01:07:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you so much for inviting me out.

[01:07:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[01:07:08] [SPEAKER_05]: For sure.

[01:07:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Like I said, you've been a huge supporter of us.

[01:07:10] [SPEAKER_05]: It's much appreciated.

[01:07:11] [SPEAKER_00]: It's good to get to know you better man definitely.

[01:07:14] [SPEAKER_00]: You know we know we know and we each other but this is like the first time we've actually got to bring it down because you've always been playing a show every single time.

[01:07:21] [SPEAKER_05]: And I got to go and talk to people.

[01:07:23] [SPEAKER_05]: You know it's part of it too.

[01:07:25] [SPEAKER_02]: We got to mix it up.

[01:07:26] [SPEAKER_02]: You're the front man.

[01:07:28] [SPEAKER_02]: With great front man comes great front man responsibilities.

[01:07:31] [SPEAKER_05]: But it's true like getting be able to sit down and actually have a conversation.

[01:07:36] [SPEAKER_05]: It's fun.

[01:07:37] [SPEAKER_05]: It's better way.

[01:07:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I like the closed beard.

[01:07:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I think last time I was seeing you it was like super long.

[01:07:42] [SPEAKER_00]: That was that was a good too but it was like pretty bushy.

[01:07:44] [SPEAKER_00]: It's looking good man.

[01:07:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Look at good.

[01:07:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for your season coming up here.

[01:07:48] [SPEAKER_02]: It's got cool.

[01:07:48] [SPEAKER_05]: It's been too hot.

[01:07:50] [SPEAKER_05]: I've been rocking.

[01:07:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Take tops and no beard.

[01:07:53] [SPEAKER_05]: As the hair is too much as it is.

[01:07:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god.

[01:07:55] [SPEAKER_05]: I can't imagine the hair.

[01:07:56] [SPEAKER_05]: I can't imagine how that smells.

[01:08:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Like brownies.

[01:08:05] [SPEAKER_05]: It's a good or bad.

[01:08:07] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.

[01:08:08] [SPEAKER_05]: That's what it smells.

[01:08:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Like brownies.

[01:08:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Not hating it.

[01:08:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh shit.

[01:08:14] [SPEAKER_02]: All right we're going to get out of here.

[01:08:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody already knows the scroll down.

[01:08:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Show notes below getting touch the friction is good stuff.

[01:08:20] [SPEAKER_02]: And of course if you join us in happy Friday tomorrow,

[01:08:22] [SPEAKER_02]: you're going to hear them.

[01:08:23] [SPEAKER_02]: They open the show every week so just on the bat ass.

[01:08:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for being here brother.

[01:08:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:08:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for everything.

[01:08:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone be good yourselves.

[01:08:29] [SPEAKER_02]: You deserve it.

[01:08:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Hell yeah.