Have you ever went to a Smash Brothers Ultimate competition event and met an awesome guy? Well that's what Art did, and we are honored to host Jake Mr. Pickles Please on this episode!
Not only is this solid lad a top tier smash player, he is also an intelligent thinker, and we get into all types of conversations. Food safety, gaming, insects and creating new trees, are some of many subjects that we covered.
Always great to get to know someone new and thats why it's important to get out and enjoy life.
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[00:00:04] coming to you from danver colorado this is discussion combustion podcast with your hosts kevin batstone and arthur raw
[00:00:15] all right well we're green here and uh we got jake across the table everyone yep welcome in man it's so
[00:00:26] thanks for being in short notice we met less than a week ago in person at the arcadian smash bros tourney
[00:00:34] yeah it was last saturday it was super cool i'm really excited to be here um i'll just talk about
[00:00:41] whatever it'll be super fun um but yeah really really excited to be here yeah we're excited to
[00:00:48] have you 273 273 273 you guys met at the tourney i wish i could have been there but i want to hear
[00:00:54] about some of the highlights and the takeaways from it yeah i mean you've been doing it for a minute
[00:00:59] right yeah um i mean i i've kind of been playing smash casually probably since i was like about 10
[00:01:06] i started with brawl that was the one in the wii got super addicted back then i i used to roll with
[00:01:12] ness because i thought he was the only character in the game with the shield and and really quick just
[00:01:16] in case anybody doesn't know that's listening um first shame on you for not knowing what smash bros
[00:01:22] is but it's it's a video game that nintendo exclusively makes that has like super mario brothers
[00:01:30] in it you have like pokemon characters link zelda like a lot of these nintendo characters you also have
[00:01:36] some final fantasy characters and stuff like that and street fighter characters that you can fight
[00:01:40] as so it's a fighting game and uh it's highly competitive and it takes a lot of skill so just
[00:01:45] in case if anyone didn't know what's what smash we're talking about yeah like they're thinking
[00:01:49] about the horizontal mumbo or whatever yeah instead i mean i don't know what they're thinking there
[00:01:54] gonna be a lot of things but i remember going back to the n64 days yes you know which nice nice job
[00:01:59] with the shirt there tonight yeah yeah i had the rock i had the rock that was the first time i ever saw
[00:02:04] it and then i kind of lost touch with a bit and once you guys started playing it a lot and just being
[00:02:08] around it you know like on sundays i have nascar going on one tv and then those guys will be
[00:02:12] playing smash on another so i was like okay what's going on with this smash stuff and then
[00:02:15] i stepped in the ring with them realized complete domination i got a lot of work to do if i'm ever
[00:02:19] going to come to one of those events yeah it's serious it's hard so you've been playing since
[00:02:23] brawl on the wii yeah yeah picked it up around 10. it's been um it's definitely been the game that's
[00:02:31] stuck with me the most i was like always into like mario games mario galaxy a lot as the as a kid
[00:02:37] from there you know you see mario on the on the cover of smash bros i'll give that one a shot another
[00:02:42] um but yeah i just i just fell in love with it um i want to get more into fighting games too like
[00:02:50] they're i'm doing the new street fighter 6 they just added my smash main terry it's a street fighter as
[00:02:56] well so i should give that a shot but alas i don't have any consoles that can run it so i'm stuck on
[00:03:02] smash for now but it's still a pretty fun game um i've been playing competitively for about five or
[00:03:09] four years something around there um but it's been really fun gone through many characters since
[00:03:16] then still i'm a little bit a little terry's your main and then richter yeah terry but then i also
[00:03:22] played the piranha plant okay that was kind of a sleeper like people yeah don't really use that one
[00:03:28] but it could be pretty deadly yeah he's um he's like considered really bad like bottom 10 out of a
[00:03:34] game with like 80 plus characters um but because he's so like overlooked then it's really easy for
[00:03:40] me to like matchup check people with him so i'll just bring him out use some of his like really stupid
[00:03:45] tools like he does have a few really strong tools like his neutral b is up bear is up till um just
[00:03:51] catch people off guard with that and it can really just leave people bewildered but i only use that if i
[00:03:57] really have to so are these tournaments usually like they have to be characters that are within the game or
[00:04:02] can you bring custom guys to to the attorneys we were allowed to play as the me's you were yeah but
[00:04:08] that it's not allowed like on the highest caliber i don't i don't think you could play as me's you
[00:04:14] can play as me but you have to like so i had to have a rule where i was like okay i'm playing as a me
[00:04:18] gunner do you want to see my move set because you could customize the move set okay so like it was
[00:04:23] like a common courtesy to at least ask if they wanted to see what your lineup was and some people
[00:04:29] wanted to see it some people didn't um but this event was really fun it was at a library an old
[00:04:35] library it used to be a library in lone tree and um i'm pretty sure it used to be it's called the
[00:04:40] hub and we there was like several hundred screens set up monitors a bunch of people were in there there
[00:04:47] was a hundred competitors pretty intense i thought i was going to be one of the best smash bow players
[00:04:52] in the entire state like i thought i was the shit i was chatting with you about two hours before you
[00:04:56] got there you know just pumping them up basically man i'm going in i'm ready yeah i'm going in i was
[00:05:01] like i'm leaving with money tonight and uh and no i got absolute i got humbled and it was it like
[00:05:07] changed my perspective on the game because uh there's a lot to it even if you've been playing for a long
[00:05:12] time like there's always more to learn and i guess that's just a lesson in life well and you're going up
[00:05:17] against someone competitively in a bracket that's you know you maybe not familiar with like you and josh
[00:05:20] smash all the time so it's a little bit predictable you get up with some of these new opponents it's
[00:05:24] like i don't know what to expect i don't know what their timing is you know that's that's what
[00:05:28] makes the the competition piece so fun yeah i definitely agree with that um too and i will
[00:05:33] say one more thing about um about the tournaments is smash it came out um at least the one we were playing
[00:05:40] smash ultimate came out in like end of 2018 so the game's been out for a long time which is kind
[00:05:46] of unfortunate like i really got into it competitively when dlc was still coming out or even before it came out
[00:05:52] really um but it kind of stinks because the game's at like the end of its lifespan so every little like
[00:05:57] hop is being optimized and it just gets crazy so it really is kind of like deterring a lot of people
[00:06:03] from getting into the game this late but i'm really excited to always see new faces so it's really awesome
[00:06:10] yeah so much fun and um it's just good to get out and do some events they like i was nervous about doing
[00:06:18] it i was on the fence if i was gonna do this or not like i was like oh i had a different halloween
[00:06:23] party i could have went to and this and that then i started thinking about my priorities i was like i
[00:06:28] could either go to this halloween party not drink hang out do some dancing whatever or i could go
[00:06:35] see what i'm actually made of what was the tipping point it was uh
[00:06:40] i just listened to my like i i already knew that that's what i wanted to do i like it and so i was like
[00:06:45] that's what i need to do i like it you know i'm gonna come experience it like once a quarter once a
[00:06:49] month so the um the one we met at is uh arcadian so that only happens like every other month okay so
[00:06:57] that just means that like the the super good players like top 10 in the state weren't allowed to enter
[00:07:02] but the um the smash tournament that series that's a weekly so every friday i think doors open at six
[00:07:09] or seven but i'll send you guys the exact information for that once it gets released
[00:07:13] but yeah it happens every week um and then every like quarter i think there's one on saturday too
[00:07:19] don't quote me on that last part that might be a little bit outdated but yeah there's um there's
[00:07:25] weeklies that happen all over the state because it's so big um like we have some up in fort
[00:07:29] collins that happens every thursday but the one here esf this happens every friday so yeah yeah i might
[00:07:37] have to jump in i might have to go again this friday you might have to be a regular down there huh
[00:07:40] i might have to go in there that'd be sick and kev you were saying uh you were saying that if you
[00:07:46] could find one for uh gran turismo yeah that would be more you would hop into that that's more my world
[00:07:52] of video game i love racing i talked to you a little bit off mic i do nascar uh when i'm not doing this
[00:07:57] so i love racing and gran turismo is tremendous and i've wanted to get into it just see where i stack
[00:08:01] up because i mean amongst our friend group i'll romp through them on yeah he's the best i'll take them
[00:08:05] all on racing but then i i see stuff like this and it's like i got completely dominated so sometimes
[00:08:09] that humble pie is pretty good have you ever heard of something like that like a gran turismo
[00:08:13] tournament or race sim tournaments that happen around you know i haven't but look at it if it's
[00:08:18] a game with um like good wi-fi and you can play like online i'm sure it has a scene it's got to
[00:08:24] i'm gonna look into that yeah just go on like youtube i'm sure you can find a whole bunch of stuff on it
[00:08:29] we'll just start traveling on i'll follow you to smash you can follow me to the race dude i'll
[00:08:32] go that'd be so soon we'll do it at dcp if you guys go gaming okay i'm down i'm down so much fun
[00:08:38] so much fun yeah and and like great group of people man everybody that i met there was super nice
[00:08:44] just having a good time uh in this competitive game so that's what it's all about is like
[00:08:51] experiencing life doing some things that you can learn some lessons in and you know i i felt like
[00:08:57] i was like i was saying i felt like i was kind of top tier type of shit and then i stepped into the
[00:09:02] ring and wrecked and i got i got humbled you got wrecked and now now there's this whole new frontier
[00:09:07] in front of me it's interesting how that works that's going to keep you coming back right that's
[00:09:11] the competition piece right and then you don't know maybe you start making friends that's the fun part
[00:09:15] is you're surrounded people that have the same passion as you know everyone's getting competitive
[00:09:18] that's got to be just good energy it is it's super fun and and so you go by pickles please
[00:09:24] yeah so multiple pickles not just one multiple please multiple for at least however many fit in
[00:09:32] uh in a barrel yeah it was a really silly tag how that came up with okay all right yeah i'm curious
[00:09:38] how did we get to that but i love pickles but yeah so it's not a crazy story but um i really love
[00:09:45] alliteration so when i have a tag i always try to put it in so like that pp and then because at the
[00:09:52] time i was only playing plant so then it was like pickles please piranha plant and it was just like a
[00:09:57] tongue twister and it was just super hard for anyone to take it seriously and also because plants kind
[00:10:02] of like a troll character i kind of wanted like a troll name okay so it was pretty funny so it didn't
[00:10:07] really have anything to do with pickles at the time um since after i made the tag i actually did start
[00:10:14] making and selling dill pickles for a little bit oh really okay yeah okay pretty funny you're still
[00:10:21] selling those i haven't for like two years okay i've been meaning to get into it i have i just got
[00:10:27] this um this jar off the amazon i should have brought it to show you guys but it has like a little strainer
[00:10:31] inside so you put all that like apple cider vinegar and all the dill and whatnot in and then you can just
[00:10:37] like take the pickles out without it being in the in the jar so it's pretty sweet trying to get into
[00:10:44] that i do want to start selling them again but it wasn't a super super profitable thing for me tough
[00:10:51] market to break into when you're going up against the krogers and the colossans of the world yeah
[00:10:54] exactly but if you could put like your you know you got like your gamer touch to it or something
[00:10:58] there might be like a niche market you can start slinging pickles out front of these events
[00:11:01] exactly exactly no i've like brought jars to venues before and i've been like yeah everyone
[00:11:09] and they were like a huge hit but i just i just didn't have the time to keep making them well and
[00:11:13] it probably it stinks up the kitchen quite a bit yeah burning up all that i'd like to think about
[00:11:18] that there's a big movement happening pickles right now pickle juice shots in the alcohol world
[00:11:22] pickle flavored beverages and all these things you know it's a good commodity though if you like that
[00:11:26] flavor now were you doing like the chips or are you doing the mega spears or both i didn't
[00:11:31] both but i usually try to stick with the spears because it's just a lot easier i like the spears to
[00:11:35] make those yeah just easier to snack on right if you're going would you rather if you're going spears
[00:11:40] or chips i mean i think i think we're all going to go unanimous on this although i know you like
[00:11:45] your pickle chips the chips it's hard oh yeah so would you rather you could only eat pickles
[00:11:51] chips for the rest of your life you said spears okay so if it's one for the whole life so like if
[00:11:58] you're if you have a burger you got to put a pickle spear on your burger all right when you word it
[00:12:04] that way now it's getting difficult okay i mean that's part of it like that's part of it i'm not
[00:12:08] wrong i was about to say with like sandwiches and whatnot you could make it work for like a hot dog
[00:12:12] though because yeah chicago style yeah it'd be perfect for the hot dog yeah love chicago dogs
[00:12:16] um i'm taking the spears all the way spears really i didn't expect you because when it's fried you
[00:12:20] ever seen my fridge yeah but fried pickles fried pickles you gotta go chips you can do fried dill pickle
[00:12:25] spears so but you gotta go chips if they're fried i love a pickle spear with a sub this is why i'm a
[00:12:31] little shocked that i'm there yeah okay just when you thought you had my pickle plan figured out
[00:12:37] it's quite preposterous it's a pickles it got me into a predicament yeah a peculiar predict
[00:12:44] yeah pickle predicament
[00:12:50] so see what you did with your username so you're going you're going the spears
[00:12:57] i okay i'm i'm on the fence now though okay all right it is a tough one i know my choice do we roll
[00:13:03] this into happy friday tomorrow for the for the week i don't know to see i don't know i don't know
[00:13:08] see that's just a tough one i'm going chips i'm going pickled chips i think you know you could you
[00:13:13] could do that on a hot dog too it's fine you know i'm going with the chips you can do it on a hot dog
[00:13:19] yeah i think i gotta go chips too just for the sandwich aspect of it too i've been surviving off
[00:13:25] of subway you know college student so yeah it does well yeah and same with if you're doing like adult
[00:13:31] lunchables and you get like a box of uh crackers and then like your own cheese and then pickles with
[00:13:36] the ham like oh yeah and you just do like a pickle chip on top of that super cheap goes a long way
[00:13:42] super good yeah it's pickle-licious i'm glad i got a big old jar at the house i'm gonna have to eat
[00:13:47] one when i get home yeah yeah i'm definitely into the pickles so one thing that i found out recently
[00:13:54] because i have i like owning i have plants in my house and i've been getting these
[00:13:58] fucking fruit flies flying around my house and i'm not even over watering my plants like i have no idea
[00:14:05] what they're holding on do you have any produce out no interesting but they've just been around
[00:14:10] and so i've been like searching ways to kill fruit flies what'd you find and so i found that you could
[00:14:17] do like apple cider vinegar and look like you puncture some holes in top so make it so it's hard to get in
[00:14:23] and i've had them out there for like a week i had three different cups set up and i only caught
[00:14:28] one fruit fly and so i'm like i i don't think that works i don't think it works
[00:14:33] cider vinegar was no good yeah i only caught one and they're still just flying around interesting
[00:14:38] so if anybody out there knows of any remedy great ways to capture fruit flies you know there's
[00:14:47] gotta be something i do know for bees and a lot of insects um what you do is you get soapy water
[00:14:53] and that what wipes off some sort of chemical on their cuticle the exoskeleton and makes it so they
[00:15:00] can't breathe well so if you put like soapy water in a spray bottle that'd be really good for something
[00:15:05] bigger but the fruit flies are so small to the point that that wouldn't be like super great
[00:15:10] i'm just curious because the fruit flies i think they go after like fermentation
[00:15:16] like i i feel like if you over water your plant then you get fruit flies i've done that from
[00:15:21] experience yeah you will get them i said they really fruit fries or they're like little gnats like gnats
[00:15:26] yeah like they're more like that's where i was getting confused with the fruit piece yeah yeah yeah so
[00:15:30] so there's these little gnats flying around good net i um yeah i saw this and this is kind of related
[00:15:37] but i saw like this one dude he was so sick of flies flying around in his apartment so he created like a
[00:15:46] an anti-aircraft no an aa salt shooting i've seen it wrote yeah that fucking it's like a robotic
[00:15:54] fucking laser and that's so cool salt and it like nails these flies and he just has it posted up like
[00:16:01] on a table and it's just taking out flies better than the zapper you know that would be something
[00:16:05] cool yeah i would do something like that because i grew up in the days of the bug zapper outside
[00:16:08] or you know you'd even have it on your patio if it was enclosed and you'd just be hearing that thing
[00:16:12] all night the big one would get in there like the extra june bugs yeah
[00:16:18] destroyed
[00:16:21] yeah so that's that's been one little minor inconvenience but i'm new to the tablet game
[00:16:27] okay so i ended up buying three tablets in one week because i was being a little bit impulsive
[00:16:33] three's a lot three's a lot so so i bought like an off off brand one i think i'm going to return
[00:16:38] that i got a samsung one and then i found out that i have a discount on samsung then so then i bought
[00:16:43] the better samsung one and i'm waiting for the better one to arrive before i return the lesser
[00:16:49] of that and then i still have to return the original off brand one i know it's a lot but i'm basically
[00:16:54] getting into the tablets and like playing on tablets and the best game i found um was actually
[00:17:01] if you're subscribed to netflix then you can actually check there's like a bunch of games on
[00:17:08] on like tablets and smartphones that you get for free if you subscribe to netflix so you know this
[00:17:15] no i've seen like um i've seen like ads for games on netflix i didn't know that that's what it was
[00:17:21] though yeah yeah you log you log into netflix and then and then you could just go to this like gamer
[00:17:27] thing and i found this like indie studio like turn-based mech versus bugs game and it's called in
[00:17:34] into the breach and that game has me hooked right now like i i've played at least five hours of it
[00:17:42] in the last 24 hours so how does that so netflix has an exclusive game market is what you're telling
[00:17:47] me so netflix has basically like permissions to like where if you bought the game subscription okay
[00:17:56] right so like roller coaster tycoon is what brought me on to the next flicks gaming that is a good
[00:18:00] because i was like okay i wanted oh is that on netflix so yeah so if you go into the netflix app
[00:18:05] from your phone from your phone then you can download go to the game section and then find
[00:18:11] roller coaster tycoon and then they have like a netflix branded version of it to where you're not paying
[00:18:16] there's no ads there's no like uh there might be some micro i don't even think there's microtransactions
[00:18:23] in these that's so cool so so that's that's one like mobile tablet gaming secret i recently learned if
[00:18:30] you are a netflix subscriber well that was quite a sales pitch for that yeah it was good i mean it's
[00:18:35] working for me no that's that's really cool because honestly like most of the phone game industry it's
[00:18:41] like pretty bad right now because you have all these um like when i was getting into it you had
[00:18:45] like clash of clans and like all that kind of stuff where it's just like the gameplay is just like waiting
[00:18:50] for like five hours but that the fact that there's like actually like games on there like and like
[00:18:56] probably most people already like have netflix so it's like yeah might as well just go smart for
[00:19:02] those guys to get into double dip into the commodity of gaming as well yeah yeah especially because like
[00:19:07] disney plus and all the other streaming services are coming up so they're like losing a whole bunch
[00:19:11] of their stuff so that's pretty smart of them to yeah then get into like gaming and whatnot now i'll
[00:19:16] have to poke around with that and see what's on i wonder prime will try to follow i mean some of
[00:19:19] the competition is going to have to follow i mean amazon probably already has like a gaming section like
[00:19:24] if you're paying for prime because if you pay for prime you get the free shipping you get the
[00:19:28] discounts when buying yeah you get the streaming service true so you like get all these different
[00:19:33] things obviously and prime also owns whole foods so like if they don't have like mobile app like
[00:19:41] prepaid games that you don't have to see i'd be very surprised if amazon didn't have it
[00:19:46] yeah it just seems like it's kind of new i mean i haven't heard much about netflix gaming so i
[00:19:49] just wonder if some of these other guys who lose of the world or you know are they is there a
[00:19:54] market there for video game developers it has to be yeah no there definitely is um we could talk games
[00:20:00] all evening oh we could for sure um but you drove from foco all the way from up north thank you for
[00:20:07] taking a long trip down here well yeah it's fine no i appreciate that but you're going to school up
[00:20:11] there that's right and and you mentioned that you're studying like uh it's like insect biology like
[00:20:16] can you get into that a little bit yeah yeah so i'm finishing up my my senior year i study
[00:20:22] entomology which is the study of insects so that's why i kind of had an idea on the fruit flight thing
[00:20:27] but i'll have to i'll have to get a better a better um than soapy water yeah see if i can get something
[00:20:35] more scientific for that but yeah right now i'm just doing a little bit of research for my senior
[00:20:40] project on the the bark beetle i don't know if you guys have heard it's the ponderosa pine and the
[00:20:45] mountain pine beetle they're just um due to like climate change and whatnot it's all heating up so the um
[00:20:51] their environment for the native beetle has just become like so much larger um altitude wise because
[00:20:58] they don't need to get by the mountain or the trees that are super low in altitude so they're just eating
[00:21:03] everything up i'm trying to figure out like the japanese beetles like didn't there's those they had
[00:21:07] like an issue right yeah it's yeah it's an ongoing issue those guys came from uh from wood these guys
[00:21:13] are actually native okay but the thing that's kind of ruining us or ruining yeah i guess ruining us
[00:21:21] it's causing all the all the beetles they're becoming so much more like they have more active
[00:21:26] days where they don't need to like hibernate essentially so they're all um they're all just
[00:21:31] a lot more active at the current time and just eating up all our trees so i'm gonna try to find a
[00:21:37] way to figure out if i can if i can help that and i think i have a few ideas for what i can do it's
[00:21:44] i've really the um so the sap i just learned this a few days ago the sap in the trees is like the
[00:21:50] defense mechanism to um to kill the beetles so i'm wondering have you guys heard of like the
[00:21:55] crisper and all the gene editing stuff and all that okay it's all about um yeah i don't know a
[00:22:02] lot myself but basically you're just taking like a genome from like one organism and you use some sort
[00:22:07] of protein to stitch it into like another organism and it's a really cool way that they do it so i'm
[00:22:13] thinking if i could find some sort of like gene in another species of tree that codes for like
[00:22:18] higher productions of sap maybe i could create like a novel species of tree and then integrate
[00:22:26] that into the into the forests so then they could selectively breed with the trees we already have
[00:22:32] eventually creating a whole bunch more trees that can produce more sap that can protect them from
[00:22:36] the beetles it's a it's a lot to think about and there's a lot to unpack yeah hey yeah so where do you
[00:22:42] begin with that like obviously you're in the research process like do you have like a kind of route to
[00:22:46] market plan or how does it all come together yeah i am that's a really good question and i'm not 100
[00:22:51] sure i just found out in my genetics class um just like a week ago apparently you can get like gene
[00:22:57] modification kits like it's really um it's not quite the same thing but essentially what that's like a
[00:23:04] pre-made experiment where you um do you get like yeast or some sort of like really easy to reproduce
[00:23:10] like bacteria or something and then you can make that like bioluminesse in some way wow super weird
[00:23:17] so that's how that kit that's what that kit does i'm thinking though if i could talk to some people
[00:23:22] at my school i could maybe put this into into the works in some way i don't really know if it's actually
[00:23:29] possible if it's just a thought experiment i feel like in theory it's definitely possible but i'd have to
[00:23:36] sequence the genome of the whole tree which sucks i'd have to look at the whole like the coding of
[00:23:42] all it so i'd just be like a g c t a like it'd just be repeating for like 20 000 times oh wow i have to
[00:23:50] find what specific sequence is what encodes for like the bark or the the sap in the bark and then find
[00:23:57] another tree figure out again where that goes and then ideally so the technology that they're using
[00:24:03] right now it's called the gene gun it's it sounds really scientific it's not it's essentially you
[00:24:08] just get a whole bunch of like the organism that you want like a whole condensed part of the genome
[00:24:14] all the plasmids and then you just kind of shoot that into like the genome of whatever you want
[00:24:19] and hopefully um one of the like particles of the genome like um through the collision it'll just
[00:24:26] splatch onto where it needs to go but it's so big that it has a very effective
[00:24:32] chance of working it's so it's a lot of word vomit but that's that's pretty interesting so
[00:24:38] like kind of creating a new species of tree exactly but then what does that do to all the native the
[00:24:44] current trees isn't that just like an equivalent issue because then you might have this new tree
[00:24:50] over sapping that's a good point the the nature because there's oh there's always like
[00:24:56] this has the cause and effect like there's always a chain of events you know yeah and that's
[00:25:01] definitely true so i need to do the research onto that to see if i can if i'm getting into a little
[00:25:06] bit more than my what i'm like a little bit over my head but ideally i'm thinking i could maybe make
[00:25:13] that like a um have you guys heard of like the rainbow papaya by any chance rainbow papaya yeah
[00:25:20] i don't think so okay um this happened in hawaii like 50 or 60 years ago but there was a species of
[00:25:27] hawaii or papaya that was dying i think it was ring spot virus it was getting it so they went in and
[00:25:34] they altered its genome from some other plant to make it have immunization yeah that word to the to
[00:25:41] the ring spot virus so i'm thinking if i can do something similar to that with the tree it wouldn't
[00:25:47] necessarily be like a competition thing but more so just be giving it a novel trait that could help it
[00:25:53] survive so what what eats the beetles like let's say let's say that we tackle this beetle issue yeah
[00:25:58] and we like kind of eliminate these beetles then what what other like part of the ecosystem and chain
[00:26:07] is going to suffer from that or is there like an overpopulation of these beetles right now
[00:26:11] or are there is it just a problem because there's more warmer days and and our bugs cold-blooded and
[00:26:17] they need the sun to like operate they um it's really weird how they work so they have an open
[00:26:23] um circulatory system so they'll just pump stuff throughout and they do have what's called a book
[00:26:29] lung that does kind of pump that okay um as for if they're like they're cold-blooded they don't produce
[00:26:35] their own heat your own body heat per se but it's a little bit different from being cold-blooded because
[00:26:42] they don't technically have blood it's hemolymph okay it's a little bit different but roughly you
[00:26:48] could say that they're cold-blooded and that kind of like that's but that makes sense oxygen run the
[00:26:55] hemolymph though like it's still like an oxygen based anatomy so it's weird um they're um the hemolymph
[00:27:05] it doesn't carry any oxygen we have iron in our blood which is why it's red they have copper which
[00:27:12] makes a kind of green color and that doesn't really carry oxygen as much as it does carry like
[00:27:19] a lot of like nutrition and a lot of that stuff so it's really weird and just keeps circulating that
[00:27:25] through the bodies um but it's super cool um back to the question a lot of um a lot of things that do eat
[00:27:33] these beetles are like woodpeckers and whatnot so i would need to look and see how that would affect
[00:27:39] like the woodpecker population because currently there is an overpopulation of them but if we did
[00:27:45] make a like if in theory this worked and like too well and it completely eradicated the beetle and now
[00:27:52] we have an excuse me extinct species that would probably change the effect of like the woodpeckers
[00:28:00] and probably they would suffer from that and you know everybody loves woodpeckers
[00:28:04] until they're until they're knocking on your house yeah yeah or at your neighbor's house you're
[00:28:08] like yeah exactly is that is that hill well a lot of this is obviously pretty regional right i mean
[00:28:15] where these beetles there's got to be more and less in some parts what is your research shown as
[00:28:18] far as like where they're really overrun currently it's um it's all really just kind of like the rocky
[00:28:23] mountain area and all the western united states um which is too bad it goes all the way from like
[00:28:29] all the way from colorado where we're at all the way up to like canada so it's super crazy i need to
[00:28:36] look specifically where in colorado that would work or where they would um what it is exactly they'd live
[00:28:43] but mostly like um kind of deeper in the mountains but at lower elevations within those like mountain ranges
[00:28:49] that's super straight yeah definitely seeing myself up there camping and kicking some dirt up
[00:28:53] yeah exactly and you could just see all these like dead trees too like you could just see like because
[00:28:59] uh exactly i'll go to lake dylan often and i think this was the japanese beetles but they like
[00:29:05] absolutely wrecked all the woods that you can see from the lake like and and it's been recovering
[00:29:11] but there was a couple years there where it was just like brown and then obviously that creates a
[00:29:16] major fire hazard right yeah so there's just all this other stuff that that comes from that you
[00:29:20] just have all this dead wood out there but with the japanese beetles we had we had a guest one time
[00:29:24] that said he gave a piece of advice that don't put the traps up interesting because he's basically like
[00:29:28] if you do that you're just going to keep them coming into your yard and i guess that's more if
[00:29:32] you're just trying to preserve your you know surrounding land but i don't know what do you think
[00:29:36] about that i mean are the traps pro or con or you know that's an excellent question i think um
[00:29:41] i'm definitely pro for the traps i think definitely reducing their numbers as much as we can is vital
[00:29:49] because eventually they're just going to keep growing up and keep going i really don't think
[00:29:53] it's a sustainable solution though um to them unfortunately because you know there can only be
[00:29:59] so many traps but there's so much food for them to eat we have um they're shredding up all my parents ivy
[00:30:04] and whatnot at our house and it's just like there's so much food for them that there's no way that like
[00:30:10] a single trap it could maybe take out like 32 but these guys produce that happen to be walking by
[00:30:15] really yeah exactly these guys reproduce like at the thousands so i would say um i definitely do more
[00:30:22] research into the japanese beetle but they're um they're getting a lot better a lot of agriculturists
[00:30:28] are getting a lot better at implementing ipm which is integrated pest management techniques and what
[00:30:34] that might do is that might like um maybe they like introduce a predator of these beetles from their
[00:30:42] native land which is somewhere in asia japan maybe probably based off the name but if you could find
[00:30:50] some sort of predator for those guys that'd be ideal and then theoretically you wouldn't have to worry
[00:30:57] about these guys like um becoming a new problem because then it's like if you're introducing a new
[00:31:02] problem then these guys would overrun it but if these guys only eat the japanese beetles
[00:31:08] then in theory it would work however what will probably happen is they won't just eat the japanese
[00:31:13] beetles they'll eat a lot of native like flies and whatnot too once that happens and then the problem really
[00:31:19] goes so it's a really complicated situation it is because everything everything is connected yeah and so
[00:31:26] i feel like because of the size of insects they're often overlooked as and as far as their importance
[00:31:33] and stuff as well yeah and and really like if it wasn't for insects we wouldn't be what we are right
[00:31:41] because everything that eats insects we end up eating yeah you know and so if insects populate if
[00:31:48] insect populations plummeted world round then potentially there could be famines like insects
[00:31:57] are super important right did they talk about any of that stuff like in your college or like the the
[00:32:03] current situation with insects globally like if we're in a good standing or definitely so yeah we're having
[00:32:09] um the big problem with us and insects right now is our native pollinators because a lot of the honeybees
[00:32:16] that we have over here they're all brought over from like england and whatnot and a lot of our native
[00:32:20] pollinators like the bumblebees not just aren't doing super good so that's like really a huge problem
[00:32:27] with us in that industry right now is because if we ran out of pollinators like that reduces the amount
[00:32:32] of like all of our plants basically require like pollen and whatnot to actually reproduce and keep growing
[00:32:40] or elsewhere like we're stuck with like monocultures which is i don't know if you guys heard but um
[00:32:45] there's a banana type the cavendish banana what happened with that is we were planning the same
[00:32:50] one that was a banana species that we've been eating for like good 50 or 60 years and apparently
[00:32:57] i don't know if this part is true but that banana is what apparently the like banana flavor like laffy
[00:33:04] taffy is supposed to taste like okay banana flavored candy i don't know 100 sure if this is true but this
[00:33:10] what i was told um so now we don't use cavendish bananas anymore because they um there was a huge
[00:33:18] monoculture of them and then there was some sort of disease because we kept cloning our bananas
[00:33:24] it's a really long story there used to be like a bunch of seeds in bananas and they were like exactly
[00:33:29] yeah and then we kept selectively breeding them to have all these big fruit but now they don't have any
[00:33:34] seeds anymore so now we need to clone them to reproduce more bananas and then some sort of
[00:33:40] wait so sorry i'm just like i'm getting on a side point um and then i've seen these like tiktok videos
[00:33:46] of like people be like the the fruit is fake and they're like trying to like break the banana and it's
[00:33:52] like super bendy or they're like or they're like trying to eat the the watermelon and it's like rubbery
[00:33:59] wait i haven't seen that have you seen any of that i don't know if that's propaganda or not because i
[00:34:04] honestly think everything online is satire but like to some extent but if we're like cloning stuff and
[00:34:09] and like i i brought up this question a while back but like have we have you eaten cloned animal meat
[00:34:16] like how would you know like we had to probably have i mean with the way the cattle since the 90s
[00:34:21] yeah yeah well i mean just food in general has been tinkered with and mass production of it you know
[00:34:26] we see it in the sweet potato was like one of the first gmos right when you really think about it
[00:34:30] as a i think your mom taught me this it was you know started as a russet or whatever and they crossed
[00:34:34] it and they ended up with sweet potato so in theory that is a gmo but that term gets a really bad rep
[00:34:38] i don't know enough about it to say either way it's true yeah it's um it's a huge battle because a lot
[00:34:45] of the um the scientists and whatnot they're um they're super like for gmos but it is like a slippery
[00:34:52] slope and a lot of people that aren't for it are like like they're doing the right thing they're
[00:34:57] like i don't want to feed my kids like junk what yeah what could potentially be unsafe and i think
[00:35:04] that's completely fair to be honest um me personally i always um the science so far a lot of the scholarly
[00:35:12] articles don't support super strongly that um genetically modified organisms do would create like cancer or
[00:35:20] whatnot i need to do more research on that myself and i'm obviously i'm only a college student so i'm
[00:35:25] just learning just like everyone so taking this from a from like a real scientist with the degree would
[00:35:31] would mean a lot more but um from the research that i've been told um i've i haven't heard anything
[00:35:38] bad about like gmos effects on health but you know that's that's the only thing that i've been told
[00:35:45] um correlation wise there's not crazy amount of information to back it up um on either sides really
[00:35:52] because you do have like autism and birth defects rates going up but the amount of like genetically
[00:35:58] modified food is also going up and then the amount of like organic food is also going up too so it's
[00:36:04] like there could be another another indicator of this so it's probably best everyone just kind of takes
[00:36:09] their own research on it and exactly makes the best decision for them and their family yeah i think um
[00:36:14] i think that's always the best you think about like these impossible meats yeah so i actually
[00:36:19] think about that i was a pescatarian for a long time what is a pescatarian it's like only fish yeah
[00:36:26] exactly okay so i was surviving off of a lot of those and i will say um like food quality wise
[00:36:34] you do kind of like a lot of stuff you can't really tell if it tastes better or not but a lot of stuff
[00:36:41] you can like add these meatballs that was like impossible meat and some of them are really good
[00:36:46] but these ones were just like awful it had like a minty taste to it which is not what you want in
[00:36:51] your meatballs yeah um so yeah you just have to cover that in marinara i think um the reason i kind
[00:36:58] of switched is because i was trying to gain a lot of weight and switching over and really just the
[00:37:03] convenience and price aspect of just eating real meat so much easier like so many more fast food options
[00:37:11] like pop up for me as like something that i could do like i can't really i could really eat at wendy's
[00:37:16] mcdonald's anywhere really except for like taco bell have like a weirdly really good um menu for all
[00:37:23] that stuff because i guess they just put like beans and all of that in there as for impossible meat
[00:37:29] though i'm starting to realize the um so a lot of problems that people have with the meat industry
[00:37:36] comes from like the farming practices and all the methane gas the cows are releasing
[00:37:40] and that's not really the fault of the cattle it's really more so the fault of like the cattle's diet
[00:37:47] it's so um it's so easy and all the resources we're putting into that so i feel like um just over
[00:37:54] the summer like i was just catching my own crabs and like eating real meat and it's so much better
[00:38:00] for your body and it is so so good like taste wise and where are you where are you catching crabs at
[00:38:06] like so crawfish no this was um when i was living in alaska oh okay um put in like a big trap and i
[00:38:13] caught these two dungeness crabs which were like oh huge probably yeah they were enormous pulled those
[00:38:18] things out and ate them and it's like it's some of the best food you can ever have yeah don't even need
[00:38:22] to season it or anything so i feel like if you're just um if you're doing your part to just like make
[00:38:27] sure that you're really respecting the animal that you're eating and like i think eating meat is on any
[00:38:34] level i think it's really good for both your body the environment um but just like big meat corporations
[00:38:41] and whatnot i think the um the agricultural industry really needs to step up their game in terms of
[00:38:47] releasing all the carbon emissions and whatnot and there really are so many good like
[00:38:52] sustainable farming practices that we can do like all the carbon that the cows are losing into the
[00:38:57] atmosphere if you just plant a whole bunch of things then all that carbon will go back into the soil
[00:39:01] be able to be used by all that so it can really just you can create a whole bunch of cycles just keep
[00:39:07] it going and then all those plants can get eaten by the cows and just it keeps going it keeps going but
[00:39:13] i know that's kind of a a long answer but i feel like um like the pollinators are hurting as as
[00:39:19] basically exactly exactly exactly yeah like to your point everything's kind of connected and
[00:39:25] we got to eat they got to eat we got to pollinate you know everything's got to keep rotating but the
[00:39:29] meat industry yeah i mean that's look mcdonald's we just so we saw what happened this week with
[00:39:33] mcdonald's right yeah what happened not good oh was that real the ebola i think yes no it's a coli
[00:39:39] oh i thought i thought that was like oh i thought that was ai news no no honestly i thought it was so
[00:39:44] hard to tell i thought it was fake and that's concerning in itself the ai news but my understanding is
[00:39:48] it happened here in colorado people got sick they traced it back to mcdonald's and now mcdonald's
[00:39:52] according to this morning has completely pulled a quarter pounder until until further notice
[00:39:56] how is it a different meat than in the well it was like contamination right so wherever this meat
[00:40:03] was being packaged and shipped out into into the market for distribution that's where the
[00:40:06] contamination came in i see as far as i know i mean there's one person died so far a lot of people
[00:40:13] were sick that they were able to trace it back to and they traced it to a mcdonald's location
[00:40:17] but as a precautionary measure you know the way that these guys order and the way that food
[00:40:20] distribution works they got to pull the whole line yeah that makes sense thank goodness they do
[00:40:26] how smart people just keep eating bad meat and whatnot yeah so you said it was e coli i believe
[00:40:32] it was coli coli yeah e coli yeah that's yucky i bet um what happened there yeah those cows probably are
[00:40:39] like probably just eating like really bad food and probably their waste is what camp contaminated it and a
[00:40:46] lot of them sense yeah what happened a few years ago um everyone like you know those pre-packaged
[00:40:52] salad things and those are all got listeria yeah all of that it's because um over like the farming
[00:40:58] companies what's going on is they're um they're using the water to water those plants are coming
[00:41:04] from like the cow farms and whatnot so it's all like poopy gross water and that's what that's what gives
[00:41:11] all the plants all those pathogens interesting which sucks that's actually a good breakdown i was wondering
[00:41:15] how yeah the listeria breakout would happen because i remember that i was in the grocery business for a
[00:41:19] long long time so i would see a lot of these safety recalls come in and it's like we got to pull the
[00:41:22] whole line you know we got to take precautionary measures here uh but that makes sense that it's
[00:41:27] kind of all you know linked back to that it's interesting yeah it's just these farming practices
[00:41:32] are just so bad well it's not well regulated right i mean that's the other you got the fda doing
[00:41:36] what they do the usda i mean everyone's got different agendas going on you know not to get
[00:41:41] too political but it's like it's just not regulated enough you know how much is too much and how much
[00:41:45] is not enough well i'll tell you what is because i'm a conspiracy type of guy okay this is where it
[00:41:50] gets fun like i agree i agree that they exist and like honestly like they okay so i know i've said this
[00:41:58] on the pod before but i believe that the medical industry is in cahoots with the food
[00:42:06] industry and the food industry is like putting out stuff that over time in excess will make us super
[00:42:16] unhealthy and like create like cancer and shit like that and like so then you can get into the medical
[00:42:23] system and spend all of your retirement trying to fight cancer and that way they completely suck you dry
[00:42:29] and keep you like addicted your whole life and so like i believe that there probably are really
[00:42:36] good farmers out there and great people that actually want to help feed a nation healthy food
[00:42:43] but then they're just underneath these regulations to where it's like oh well if you do all of this type of
[00:42:51] crop then we're going to give you these tax breaks and if you don't then like you're going to you know
[00:42:56] you could grow whatever you want but then you're not getting these tax breaks so then they like
[00:43:00] push and like persuade through money and financial and like all this stuff from the bottom level up
[00:43:07] and like i feel like everyone's being affected by this stuff always going to have corruption i mean
[00:43:11] there's always going to be that gray area unfortunately it's just how do you regulate it i think that's
[00:43:15] the hard part i mean people have ideas and then there's just always that new loophole that opens up
[00:43:19] but we're messing with people's food so it is it's a serious topic i mean not everybody can just sustainably
[00:43:23] farm themselves a lot of people have goats chickens cattle that they raise but not everyone can do that so we do rely on the
[00:43:29] local farmers and the grocers yeah i i really like that theory i think that's super interesting
[00:43:34] and i will say to my knowledge like the american diet is like so different from a lot of other
[00:43:40] countries like we eat a lot more like dairy and red meats and whatnot and a lot of that stuff yeah it can
[00:43:46] cause a lot of like bad health decisions like raise your cholesterol whatnot dairy's not like it's super
[00:43:53] processed so it can cause a whole bunch of bad like hormonal changes for the human body and yeah
[00:44:00] to an extent that'll cause like a lot of super bad like health conditions so there's like there is
[00:44:06] definitely like a lot of that is not even like theory it's just like we do just kind of eat garbage i
[00:44:12] mean like mcdonald's like it's so good and like i eat taco bell like at least three times a week
[00:44:16] mcdonald's is good because it's full of drugs exactly it's legal drugs i swear and apparently
[00:44:22] ecoli bacteria yeah you gotta be careful there buddy good god it's it is delicious but it's like
[00:44:29] legal drugs man this was this is not good for mcdonald's as a marketing perspective though i mean
[00:44:34] they've had they've had an interesting week well i'll say that and it'll be interesting how they
[00:44:37] recover i mean just a bad look you know for for the american burger maker like the guy that gets the big
[00:44:42] mac every day uh-huh we've covered he's eating like 30 something thousand or whatever for x amount
[00:44:46] it's like the 70s every single day he eats one yeah he was on the podcast no no oh we wish that
[00:44:52] would have been cool we would love to talk about minnesota but he holds the record congruently for
[00:44:56] the most days eating a big mac and it's like been since 1971 and he just has one like every day for
[00:45:02] lunch that's and so everyone's like hey man how do you stay so thin he's like i don't eat the fries
[00:45:07] no way yeah it's that easy yeah the fries actually when i went on my recent when i went on my recent
[00:45:14] mcdonald's itch fucking uh the fries were the greasiest part they're the nastyest part super
[00:45:19] salty yeah and and they're never good leftover oh so so there's that not much okay so we're talking
[00:45:25] about corruption of the food industry right and we're kind of talking about this but let's talk
[00:45:30] about the the most blatantly obvious thing that causes issues creates health issues
[00:45:37] psychological issues and within the family that is often celebrated in sports events and happy hours
[00:45:45] for work and everywhere it's alcohol okay alcohol is the most celebrated destructive thing i i think
[00:45:55] like what else is celebrated that is that destructive what else is celebrated on that level yeah i mean
[00:46:02] that's a good when you put it side by side comparison it'd be tough to say i mean there's other drugs
[00:46:05] there's other things people do but not on the scale that alcohol is there's no question yeah it's like
[00:46:09] you know you're watching the football game and then like your favorite sports player is like yeah when
[00:46:13] i want to relax miller time like you know he's not actually having a miller maybe he is well we saw
[00:46:18] it in the 70s and 60s with the cigarette movement you'd see like maryland monroe smoking and other other
[00:46:23] celebrities and people like oh that's cool it's trendy have a stogie i was telling you know before we
[00:46:27] jumped on you i think we're kind of seeing that happen in the alcohol market now we saw with the
[00:46:31] cigarette market a little bit and that it's not that it's not cool anymore but it's it's shifting the way that
[00:46:35] consumers get their alcohol the way they want it just like this the cigarette industry is now becoming
[00:46:39] the zen market and some of the evades right it's kind of going through a change i feel like
[00:46:44] exactly yeah i think um they're really it's weird because the hard thing about alcohol is it has such
[00:46:50] like a traditional and like social aspect of it like a lot of it it's not just like you're just
[00:46:57] drinking a bottle it's like you're going to a bar or whatever and then there's that social aspect of it
[00:47:02] and like you know it like fun things happen but like so many horrible things happen on alcohol too
[00:47:08] like you hear at like frats all the time all this hazing and people are like roofing people it's no
[00:47:14] good like yeah it's all just it's all just awful and like a lot of people it's like it's like you
[00:47:20] want something to drink and it's like no i'll have something non-alcoholic like like you know it it
[00:47:25] it feels bad sometimes but but yeah it took me a while to get over that right it gets pressure
[00:47:31] being younger like yeah it's more susceptible um you know i'm at that age now 37 where i'm just like
[00:47:39] you know liquids liquid baby i'll cheers you whatever yeah and and one thing like i'm not
[00:47:45] going to sit here and say that i didn't have a blast drinking in my life like i've had so many fun times
[00:47:51] drinking and and getting down on like painkillers and shit like i had a lot of fun in my drug and
[00:47:57] drinking days me too but like thinking about it now and like how it makes me feel now is just like
[00:48:05] you know that fun social arthur he exists without alcohol yeah you know he's there like i i wasn't
[00:48:13] drinking at that uh smash tourney and i was having the best time just chatting with people like i don't
[00:48:18] think anyone was really getting down there like other than i do believe that like the whole crowd
[00:48:23] with how fast everyone's fingers were moving i do believe everyone was on adderall and i was not on
[00:48:30] that so that was a major disadvantage for me yes believe me i yeah it is it is an unfair a dlc mechanic
[00:48:38] yeah yes i was getting screwed over there i was taking weedables and like edibles and
[00:48:43] this slows me down and stuff but interesting i wonder uh i wonder how that would it would change
[00:48:49] or or kept the competition the same if you were also an adderall if i was i don't know dude i don't know
[00:48:55] i mean do you think it would yeah it's going to your point it would amp me up a little bit i think so
[00:48:59] yes so i might have to get back into my uh street hustle mode and try to find me a new adderall hook
[00:49:05] i don't know if i like that yeah no like i stopped doing adderall because honestly when i would take it
[00:49:11] i would be uncontrollably horny and like i would stay up late like you know working on that and
[00:49:19] and then i i just would go too hard on it and so like i ended up having to put it down because i was
[00:49:24] all like every time i do it like i want to do it the next day and then i jerk off ferociously and
[00:49:29] it's just like a very unhealthy cycle yeah it was it was unhealthy interesting so i i had to kind of
[00:49:35] put a kibosh on it yeah anything can get out of hand though you know anything in moderation
[00:49:39] some people can just have a cup a few take an adderall for a smash event and then get right
[00:49:43] back to that does sound fun i don't know that kind of sounds fun everyone's just yeah just to go crazy
[00:49:48] like you know i if i may ask like what did it like feel like to do adderall so it's cleaner than
[00:49:55] cocaine i will i will say that it lasts longer though so like if you take too much like you're on
[00:50:02] for that ride like you can't just like get out of it yeah um i would be less hungry so it kind of
[00:50:10] appetite suppressant yeah it suppressed my appetite a little bit i would have a hard time falling asleep
[00:50:15] and like i i would always take more than the dose recommended too so i i will also say that like i was
[00:50:22] abusing it when i was using it um but i did feel pretty focused um i don't know i don't know
[00:50:31] i had like i said i had some good times like i'm doing sober october right now i'll probably still
[00:50:37] enjoy some alcohol at some point in the future but it's just it's not a priority anymore yeah and
[00:50:42] like it's funny how like like all of these like we're advertised like to drink coca-cola which is
[00:50:49] full of fake sugar we're advertised to drink alcohol which like fucks your liver up yeah you know and then
[00:50:56] like so we're constantly getting hit with like oh eat this take that you know this and that and it's
[00:51:02] like candy none of this shit is good for us yeah well yeah yeah you know that's the crazy part because
[00:51:07] we're talking about food and stuff earlier food yeah all of it but it all comes back to that personal
[00:51:10] control like all of it can get out of hand at any moment you know now we're seeing this ozempic thing
[00:51:14] right which i'm just now kind of getting caught up to speed on yeah i haven't really heard about that
[00:51:19] yeah so i guess it was originally uh prescribed for a1c diabetes type 2 diabetes that's kind of where that
[00:51:26] started now you have celebrities and you have you know everyday individuals taking it as a weight loss
[00:51:32] alternative because it's supposed to suppress it there's a there's a chemical blocker in it
[00:51:36] suppresses your appetite and so it's kind of like a cheat code to lose weight to people from
[00:51:41] understanding i don't like the sounds of it yeah no now that you mentioned that i think i have heard
[00:51:47] of a little bit about that didn't like jonah hill or something i believe he was one i believe there's
[00:51:51] others that are coming out and saying they've done it yeah i think yeah they should definitely
[00:51:56] research a lot into that but that's so interesting to realize because in my head i feel like
[00:52:02] like it must not be a an over-the-counter then if people without diabetes are able to get it right
[00:52:08] that was that was my follow-up question i was talking your brother about it yeah yeah because
[00:52:12] you figure if you're going in for a diabetic situation that's how you get on ozempic i don't
[00:52:15] understand how these other folks are now and now that we're talking about you guys are going to see
[00:52:18] in your feeds it's going to be everywhere like it's a big thing right now huh i haven't even heard
[00:52:22] about this yeah that was interesting i definitely yeah now that you mentioned that i have heard a
[00:52:27] little bit about that it's still pretty new i think you know but again i think the biggest takeaway is
[00:52:32] everyone needs to do their own research right to see what's going on there's so much information
[00:52:35] coming at us at all times we're being pulled in so many different directions it's so tough to take
[00:52:39] you know what's real anymore what's fake what what is it yeah exactly and we're in the
[00:52:44] generation of ai right now too scary yeah so hard yes you can't trust yeah you really can't like i
[00:52:50] don't really trust things until like i've met jake pickles please in person i would i wouldn't have
[00:52:55] believed you existed before i don't blame you until i met you in person i wouldn't have believed that
[00:53:00] i existed either i don't blame you it's like i didn't see you in person bro you don't fucking exist
[00:53:05] but i just want to put a cap on on this type of conversation that i was kind of bringing up here
[00:53:09] like if you want to enjoy yourself and let loose then do that like we only have one life
[00:53:18] and it's not meant to be so it is a serious existence like the grim reaper is always around
[00:53:24] the corner like there's so many different ways that we could lose our lives so it's serious but at the
[00:53:29] same time there's a lot of beauty and fun to be had in this existence so i i even though i'm like
[00:53:34] being diligent with myself i do encourage everybody to enjoy their time as responsibly as you can like
[00:53:42] if you want to have a couple drinks like if you want to you know do an adderall or whatever i'm
[00:53:47] not going to say do cocaine because that shit is tainted now like it was probably good back in the day
[00:53:52] but not anymore that's just no good anymore no and um you can't even do cocaine anymore yeah so
[00:53:57] that's kind of just like my quick psa on that like i know i'm kind of harping on substance abuse but i
[00:54:03] have done it myself and it can be fun when done responsibly not when like people are getting roofied
[00:54:08] and stuff yeah so there's like this fine line right no i i totally like that makes perfect sense
[00:54:14] and i think that's a really good way because i'm in that same aspect where it's like yeah everyone
[00:54:19] should like be safe but you know i mean it's important and like honestly i i've experimented a
[00:54:26] lot with like a lot of psychedelics in my past and i like i think just experimenting with it
[00:54:31] just to like learn more about myself has helped me a lot i can get behind that yeah right it's more
[00:54:37] of a natural approach there's still so much to learn about mushrooms and i think there's a lot more
[00:54:41] that's going to come with some of the you know legislation and some of the measures that we have
[00:54:44] yeah there's no question we've seen correlations with ptsd and anxiety and different things people can
[00:54:48] get healed from from it but again i think it's like a moderation thing i was doing microdosing for a
[00:54:52] bit and i did notice some benefits from it so but for me i don't want to like dive fully into something
[00:54:57] before i know enough about it exactly you know yeah because then they could just do way more
[00:55:01] way more harm than good but i've heard that you know things like peyote ayahuasca people are doing
[00:55:05] this kind of stuff and they're learning incredible things about themselves yeah and i think like that
[00:55:10] definitely it should just be researched more a lot which that's like i guess that's my point it's just i
[00:55:16] i just think everything everyone should do their own research everything should um make sure it makes
[00:55:22] sense before you just dive into it because i've always been the person that kind of i i might not
[00:55:27] present myself that way but i definitely do leap before i look a lot and i feel like i need to do
[00:55:32] a little bit better job myself of just kind of looking and realizing a little bit more before i just
[00:55:38] it's hard you said the leap look before you leap or you leap before you look yeah it reminded me of
[00:55:44] this amazon delivery package video that i saw this guy like was having the day of his life he was
[00:55:49] having so much fun he like drops off the package he's like yeah and then he like turns around and
[00:55:54] jumps off the porch stoop and there was like a lay a low hanging fascia from like a roof and he like
[00:56:00] absolutely knocks his fucking head while he's jumping off and then the dude's unconscious he's laying
[00:56:06] there oh shit like on the sidewalk to this house i gotta have to see this for a good amount of time and
[00:56:11] then in the comments someone's like yep there's a saying you gotta look before you leave and i
[00:56:16] fucking lost it i lost it you just reminded me of it's just well he was having such a good day
[00:56:21] dude it sounds like yeah and he knocked himself out knocked him out conscious huh i'm gonna look at
[00:56:25] that when we're done yeah poor bastard poor bastard yeah time lapse and you see like the
[00:56:30] sun going down in the background yeah it's no good it's no good can somebody come get this package
[00:56:34] help this man i'm assuming it was on like a ring camera yeah yeah exactly the ring cameras have
[00:56:39] changed the game with some of the funny content that we have yeah it's crazy yep they have man
[00:56:45] what a great conversation awesome we're already like teetering on the hour mark so you guys aren't
[00:56:50] kidding yeah i told you go it flies by man we we got into some smash bros i just scraped the surface
[00:56:56] there i could we could do a whole pod on just video gaming we're getting jake back on yeah jake
[00:57:00] yeah no you're you're a great conversationalist i love the you're trying you want okay wait so
[00:57:07] if yeah if you did create this hybrid tree yeah then technically you created like a new plant what
[00:57:15] what would you name it honestly so i could just name it like the jake tree or something pickle please
[00:57:21] tree but yeah i could do something like that but i think as like a um just to kind of show like to
[00:57:27] get more people interested in like science and to kind of lower that i'd want to name it like you guys
[00:57:32] seen like rig and morty where he names the all his stuff like poop aids fart or something like that okay
[00:57:37] i would name it the stupidest thing i would be allowed to get away with okay like i caught like a
[00:57:42] stinky fart taco bell diarrhea tree or something like like horrible something so bad so people are
[00:57:49] like the dumbass that invented that saved the planet yeah so i can i could do something else like i i just
[00:57:58] want to be like anyone could do something like that or just like ask that question so that's what i would
[00:58:03] name it something so dumb and force people like everyone at my college would then have to learn about
[00:58:08] like the stinky diarrhea tree and they'd have to have that memorized and just like to like kind of
[00:58:15] like ruin and inspire that for so many people i think would be so cool okay so that's what i'd name it
[00:58:21] i like that that's some incredible mission driving purpose right there i can get behind that yeah
[00:58:26] it sounds really dumb but i promise there's there's a little bit of thought behind it oh yeah
[00:58:30] and we probably just scraped the surface on all that i mean you were throwing out stuff i'm gonna
[00:58:33] have to watch this back and figure out what he was all even saying yeah i mean i need to figure out
[00:58:38] what it is i can like i'll if i can come back on this podcast i'll have to come back to you guys and be
[00:58:43] like yeah i talked to my genetics professor and she said it was like not doable yet but with like some
[00:58:50] caveats because i yeah man i really wanted not only is like would it be really cool but like
[00:58:56] if i could you know like sell a plant patent to the government or something like that could be a
[00:59:00] really good really good money game changer for yeah exactly sitting on a beach somewhere yeah good
[00:59:05] stuff man exactly i i like it well like i figured out at the smash competition you're a great
[00:59:12] conversationalist you got great great energy a lot of fun to talk to i think you got a lot of great
[00:59:17] things going on man so how we do it here is whenever we have a great conversation we get you into the
[00:59:24] discussion combustion network so consider yourself part a network partner with that with us here at
[00:59:31] the podcast that's so awesome i really appreciate it yeah and we're gonna get you back on like another
[00:59:35] year like we usually do annual uh repeats annual visits yeah okay probably see us at some smash
[00:59:42] tourneys in between i would imagine oh yeah i gotta i gotta get into that that would be so sick
[00:59:45] i gotta get into that pc pc goes game we are running tight on time here but of course we've got to get
[00:59:50] the question in the the classic question of discussion combustion podcast that we ask every guest if you
[00:59:55] could offer a slice of advice for humanity that if everybody heard this tomorrow we'd be better off
[00:59:59] what would that be oh well i gotta i gotta go back to just do your research i mean honestly just um
[01:00:06] i guess if you really wanted to narrow it down into one slice you know look before you leap really
[01:00:14] especially if you're an amazon delivery driver especially but really just um just we have we're in the
[01:00:22] age where you can just google and like ai will generate a perfect response for you but even if you don't
[01:00:28] want to use ai there's hundreds of subreddits and whatnot of real people that have asked the same exact
[01:00:33] question we're in an era where like you can find basically anything you want for free just really take
[01:00:40] advantage of that because it's so cool and like so many people could just like do amazing great things
[01:00:47] just um just research the opportunities you have i need to do better at that myself but it's really how
[01:00:53] crazy like it's really awesome how cool it is that we live in the modern era where like i can just cool
[01:01:00] yeah i can just drive for like two hours talk with you guys and like research stuff for
[01:01:04] biogenetics exam and like have all this information for like very little like it didn't cost like college
[01:01:12] isn't cheap but like a lot of the stuff isn't through college it's just through like online you can figure
[01:01:17] out whatever you want on youtube and i just really wish more people could really like utilize that or i
[01:01:23] could see that more i'm sure it is being utilized a lot more than i'm than i can see but i don't know man
[01:01:29] you're a top tier smash bros player and so like i think your level of quality just in life is higher
[01:01:37] than people who are not top tier smash bros players i don't know about that it's a big statement hey
[01:01:44] yeah i don't know about that i'm pretty good at pressing the a and the b button but
[01:01:49] we'll we'll work on it i'm trying to i'm trying to get in the top of my game but
[01:01:53] i know a lot of people can too and a lot of people are like people that i'm trying to catch up to so
[01:01:59] it's all like it's just humbling yeah but it's a really it's a cycle it is ride the wave
[01:02:05] enjoy it it's like a great answer though man because i like that not a lot of people say like
[01:02:10] it is fucking cool to be alive right now like touch screens like when i when i was a kid like
[01:02:15] star trek like that was some future shit like we're living in the future like we have all this stuff in
[01:02:20] our palms of our hands and like it's going down and like yes if people just took more time
[01:02:26] to research like what could they find out about themselves man yeah about themselves about like
[01:02:33] what works because like i'm sure there are so many like easy ways that you could research like
[01:02:37] like really efficient food like meal prepping and stuff and then like everyone knows how to cook
[01:02:42] basically like everyone can make like really cheap food and whatnot and like yeah if you're learning all
[01:02:48] these stuff then yeah you're going to learn a lot about yourself too so it just goes full circle
[01:02:53] yeah and you're always going to have some of the you know negativity with it of course there's
[01:02:56] always going to be that that balance that yin and yang but like cooking for sure has hugely benefited me
[01:03:01] with the technology now recipe ideas all these things it's amazing what we've unlocked with that
[01:03:06] yeah like there's a website i don't have know exactly what it's called but apparently if you just
[01:03:11] tell it like what it is that you have in your cabinet it'll like spit out recipes for you for
[01:03:17] you that's cool like you yeah in your cabinet yeah oh like you just i think you have to manually type
[01:03:22] it in i'm not 100 okay i'm gonna need to get on that yeah yeah i don't remember what what it's called
[01:03:27] but i'm sure if you just do like two minutes of poking around you'll find it that's but it's like so
[01:03:31] cool yeah just like that we have that resource and then like grocery shopping becomes so much
[01:03:36] more like easy for everyone and like it's just so cool i love it man good stuff great answer great
[01:03:43] answer to humanity get like jake create things that will help humanity and aka the insects like
[01:03:52] i don't know trying to create trees we've never had anybody in here like i'm about to create a
[01:03:56] new species yeah like well i don't know if i'm gonna actually do it but that's cool it's ambitious i
[01:04:02] love it um i don't know man do you did you put together like a closing statement for this
[01:04:08] oh where can people follow you that's what it is oh you know so i'm not really a big uh
[01:04:13] big social media guy but that's so refreshing you have yeah yeah i don't know i just very often
[01:04:20] just don't that's really good to hear so all i really have is um all i have is an instagram
[01:04:27] um pickles please seven all right i i don't know if i can like link it we'll post it no put it okay
[01:04:33] put it sweet i'll do the research check out jake uh pickles please he's the man but yeah great energy
[01:04:41] that's all i really got um social media wise but yeah um stay tuned if i invent a tree i'll let you
[01:04:50] guys know hell yeah hell yeah they've heard it first right here on discussion combustion podcast
[01:04:53] yeah so 273 with jake get ready for that diarrhea tree it's coming baby yeah get ready guys hold your
[01:05:00] bells all right hell yeah well we're gonna keep talking a little bit after this show ends and you're
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[01:05:19] america tomorrow you deserve it we'll cut it right there that's perfect yeah