I$REALTHEVISIONARY | Discussion Combustion Podcast | #314
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I$REALTHEVISIONARY | Discussion Combustion Podcast | #314

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After a two-year hiatus, I$SREAL is BACK on the Discussion Combustion Podcast — and this episode goes ALL OVER the map in the best possible way. Kevin, Art, and I$real sit down for a real, raw, and hilarious conversation packed with inspiration, deep thoughts, wild theories, and nonstop energy. 🚀🔥

The crew chops it up about I$real performing at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre 🎶, stepping into the world of media production 🎥, and connecting with an incredible Texas barbecue company 🍖🤠 while continuing to build his vision and brand.

But this wouldn’t be Discussion Combustion without diving DEEP into the rabbit holes 🕳️👀. From conspiracy theories and hidden truths, to faith ✝️, religion, spirituality 🧠✨, manifestation, life experiences, and the state of the world — this episode delivers the kind of authentic conversation that keeps listeners locked in from beginning to end.

Most importantly, this episode is just good vibes with good people 🤝. Genuine laughs 😂, powerful perspectives, motivational moments, and the type of chemistry you can’t fake. Whether you’re here for the deep discussions, creative inspiration, or just want to kick back and vibe with the crew, this is one you don’t want to miss. 🎧💨

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[00:00:00] We'll have this discussion. Discussion? What discussion? This is a discussion. Combustion. Coming to you from Denver, Colorado, this is Discussion Combustion Podcast with your hosts Kevin Batstone and Arthur Rawe. I'm like maybe slow down talk about going on podcast see how it goes with my folks again and stuff so. It's a great thing about what we do here for sure and thanks for supporting us all these years. Oh yeah. I can't believe it's been two years since you've been on. I know. I thought it was sooner but as I started to pull up to the building

[00:00:30] even like y'all saying 708 because I was like I know where it's at but it's been so long where you're kind of like is it this one? And I was like oh yeah it's right here and I start walking up and I hear y'all voices over here. I was like okay yeah. Okay they're in here. The look and just even the look of everything I'm like oh yeah I'm in the right place and stuff. Nice man. Well this is your third appearance. We got it going now. We're recording. Hey! Yeah we were having a great pre-game conversation. Energy is good but that's why it's great to you know have repeating guests.

[00:00:59] And you get to know people and you become friends and familiar and yeah the world is a small place. Like Fresh Sam we didn't know you knew her. Oh yeah great creative and stuff. Hey man third time's a charm though. Third time's a charm. We back man. And I'm glad to see y'all faces. Glad y'all doing good. Y'all looking healthy. Y'all looking great and stuff. Thanks man. You're looking good too. Looking good. And I'm digging the hoodie. Yeah I like it. I like the black. Being blessed. So an affirmation I tell myself before we jumped on the mic.

[00:01:27] And I was thinking about this while I was using the john and I was like dude I gotta talk about this. And that was you were mentioning how like you might be working really hard and like but you don't give yourself credit. Right? And so every morning I'm always saying to myself like I'm blessed. I'm fortunate. But I get used to it still. And so like that whole thing about like giving yourself credit and maybe you are doing better than you think you're doing.

[00:01:53] Like I thought that had a lot of like positive energy behind it because that's something I struggle with is you know feeling like I'm doing enough. Right? Yeah. Even though you could be doing a lot but like I don't know if I feel like there's a conversation there. I think there is. I mean when you do a lot because we're all busy right? Yeah. You've got a lot of new things that you're going to tell us about here. When we're just constantly in that mix the second I know for me when I have like a little bit of downtime I'm always like I feel anxious that I'm not doing something.

[00:02:20] You're always trying to fill that that time and sometimes you got to take time for yourself. Or I feel like even when like you are doing something you're putting like so much pressure of like I want to do it right. I want to do it better that you're right. You're not slowing down to be like I appreciate that I have this opportunity.

[00:02:37] I appreciate that I get to do this and like I feel like you only get to that point of that understanding when you're like oh when it was like taken away because like it easily can be taken away. So it's like why feel down about yourself like that's like how you're saying lately like even with music it's like I used to be like oh I want to be the dopest artist. It's like now I know I'm the dopest.

[00:03:00] I touch a pen I go in the booth I'll write anything I'll snap on anything and that's not being being like cocky it's just more of like now I have that much belief for the times when I didn't believe in myself. Like obviously if that wasn't true why would why would I be on the podcast with you guys. Why would I perform at Red Rocks. Like you know me why why would I be able to go to the booth and have engineers that I never thought that I would meet and go to New York and do music out there.

[00:03:26] And it's like little wins still mattered just because you don't have the big wins you had in your head I feel like. Absolutely. I mean you just mentioned some bangers there Red Rocks. Yeah. Yeah. For real. That was everybody I mean I played in a band for five years and that was our dream to play Red Rocks and we never quite got there. You know that that's the place that's like the place to play right. Yeah. That's where everybody wants to be. And the crazy thing even about that when I perform at Red Rocks I wasn't in a good headspace to appreciate it. I ain't gonna lie.

[00:03:53] I was I it was almost like it happened and it went like you know and I almost said no to the opportunity because I was in such a bad headspace that. Yeah. Where it's like and that's been my dream as a kid. I used to be I'm gonna do Red Rocks I'm gonna do Red Rocks. But when that moment finally came like I was acting like a brat like nah I don't want to do it or not like and it's like bro like you should appreciate it. And I did great on stage like mind you I did an amazing like sold out show.

[00:04:20] But like looking back at it I still have that little regret of like I wish I would have appreciated a little bit more. I would have been in the moment. I was so stuck in my head had that anxiety. Was being like I missed my brother. That's the year he passed away you know. So it's like oh no I don't I don't deserve this almost. Like but it was the lies I was feeding myself instead of being like bro calm down. You're at Red Rocks dog. Like yeah and stuff so. No that's like exactly what I'm talking about.

[00:04:46] And then you're almost missing out on the present because you're too like in your head about am I doing enough or you know. And that's the thing like I feel like that's a high performing kind of mentality though right. Like people who are high performers are performing at a high level and thinking that they're not doing enough. Yeah. And then other people are watching and they're like why are you doing all that.

[00:05:11] You know so it's just kind of interesting and you have been high performing on multiple things. Like the music I've seen you've been dropping some stuff recently. You were talking about barbecuing. You're doing other creation helping other artists. So let's get into it. Yeah so me and my boys have a business called Backyard Barbecue. We cook Texas style barbecue which I know y'all enjoy. I still need to bring y'all a plate. I'm sorry I didn't show up with a plate. I was like they're going to tell me to leave. I ain't got no brisket.

[00:05:41] I'm like boy showing up late. That's my jam. I love brisket. No actually June 6th we're going to be cooking up with the center dispensary. It's going to be a lowrider show so if y'all around man make sure to get y'all fat plate. Oh for sure. That's my birthday weekend. Hey happy birthday. Let's go. We're still like a little bit out. We're celebrating life now. Yeah. You said June 6th. The day before my birthday. No I'm just teasing. I'm teasing. Some barbecue. Dude I'll come to that. That sounds fun. Where is it?

[00:06:11] The center dispensary 600 South Broadway. Okay. Broadway. Yeah. Damn. That's a Saturday I believe. It's the 6th. Yeah. Yep. Yep. And yeah those like exactly like all the cool things you're doing like those are cool friends. I've done a couple like commercials for them like. Nice. On Instagram promoting their products and stuff. They've also helped us out like letting us sell barbecue in front of there. I've done some photography work for them for the Ying Yang twins. Oh nice. They had a concert. Are they still whispering? They were definitely whispering.

[00:06:42] I was like what? Do you want me to snap the picture now or is that? I'm all close in my head. That's hilarious. But that's good though man that you're staying busy and doing multiple things because you know there's so much opportunity and convenience. There's so much opportunity to have convenience and not challenge yourself and like the environment that we're living in and just the modern world.

[00:07:11] It's easy to talk yourself out of opportunities. I do it all the time. You know. I don't want to. It's too late. It's been too long of a week. Right. It's cold outside. You know. I already did it. I don't want to do it. When you get in that headspace man everything is a no at that point. It's like bucket. I'm not doing it. Art tries so hard to get me to come up. I'm like nah. I'm not doing it. I haven't been trying hard. He's been trying pretty hard. He has to be almost every day. Yeah. No. I'll almost ask him every day but that's not hard for me to be like hey you coming up tonight. Because he knows I'm going to say no. Like that's not hard for me to do. He said the hard part is if I show up outside your door.

[00:07:41] I'm like driving through like you're coming in my car. You have no choice. I'll be there this weekend. You will be. You will be. But yeah. The fact remains it's easy to get in that. The power of no. There is a time and a place for it right. Because you can't say yes to everything. You can't be everywhere all at once. Yeah. But like you said like Red Rocks. I mean that was an awesome opportunity. But the headspace that you were in. You just weren't able to absorb it and take it in at that time. Yeah. Sure you could say you did it now. Which is awesome. It doesn't take away from the fact that you played out for a sold out crew. Yeah. The whole thing was packed. Yeah.

[00:08:10] So it was for the film on the rocks. It was when I was working with Youth on Record. And they were looking. They knew the person to call. An artist like backed out of it. And they're like who's the person that would. Because I only had two weeks to prep on top of that mind you. Okay. And so it's like the pressure was already on. And when they first called me I said no. But my other brother done called me. He was like what do you think Joe would want bro? He's going to want you to say no. Or he's going to want you to go up on that stage. And I was like oh dang you right.

[00:08:40] I called him back right away. I was like ain't my bad actually. I'll be at rehearsal tomorrow. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Take the opportunities. And that's one thing that I keep discovering. And I've heard a lot. But I've discovered it through my own personal growth. Is when you don't want to do it. And you know you should. That's when it's time to stop being a bitch. And fucking handle the business. Lean in. And get it done. You know because like.

[00:09:09] Like if you didn't do that show. Like you'd be like fuck. I had an opportunity to do Red Rocks. And I did it. And I didn't. And I didn't. So but you. That's not this timeline though. You win. I did that. Yeah. You did it. Yeah dude. So congratulations. Thank you. On that man. That's a big milestone for sure. And no then the coolest part was being able to write my name in the back. Where all the artists write their name. You know what I mean. And be like. Yeah. I wrote my name. And I got to perform there. And actually the day I performed. They said. I believe it was.

[00:09:39] Jimi Hendrix performed there. The same day. The first time in America. Years ago. Or something like that. It was like an anniversary date. Yeah. And I was like yo this is my favorite artist. So them just telling me that. Already hit a special. Because that's when I was like early at freestyling. And always throwing a bar of like. I'm Jimi Hendrix of rap. I'm done. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like. You know what I mean. So it's like. Now I can kind of say that day I was. That's pretty cool. That's an epic hallway too. We've walked in. Art and I have been kicked out of Red Rocks by the way. We got 86ed one time after Dierks Bentley show. But that's a story for another time. Oh man.

[00:10:09] Yeah. But. Just make sure your media credentials are up to date. Yeah. If you're trying to go in the back. That's the best way to describe it. Oh man. Yeah. I mean we got back there. And then they're like. No you're not supposed to be here. It's like. This is last week's pass. It's like. Oh shit. Sorry. Grabbed the wrong one. Oops. No. They definitely are strict on tight. Because even though I was there with the crew. They're like. Make sure we weren't wandering around. You know what I mean. Oh yeah. It's like. I was like. Dang. I got an artist pass bro. I'm performing. They're like. You guys are with this group of the artists. And like. You know.

[00:10:38] The way they set it up and stuff. So. Yeah. With the green rooms. Yeah. And honestly. I feel like that's the reason I can't quit music though. Because you're right. The fact that I took that opportunity. I feel like it sparked something. Like yes. I loved music before. But now I got to step on the stage of some of like. My favorite and best creators. And where I wanted to. And not only that too. When I'm out of that headspace. And I get.

[00:11:07] I feel like I earned it. And got to where I wanted to be. I want to be able to headline Red Rocks. I want to put on a whole show. I want to be able to put a set. A set list. And like. You know. Put a fire performance. Something that. And you guys have been to Red Rocks. There's a certain feeling there. When an artist performs like. Energy. And like. One of like their albums. Like. When J. Cole did Forest Hill Drive there. It was a classic moment for like. Everybody. Like you really felt his passion. Or when Deadmau5 was there. Like coming out for a show. You could feel like.

[00:11:36] The live performances is different. Like you could. Yeah. It's in your headphones. But when you feel that. This is like. Reminds you like. You're human a little bit. And like. Why you love music so much. It's definitely. The Venue of Venues. I was there for Cody Jink's album release party last year. Sold out. Because I love country music. Cody Jink's is the man. And just being there for that. I mean. I had a couple buddies with me. That were not fans of the music. And they left fans of the music. Because you're just. You're encapsulated with this epic moment. Yeah. It's so cool. I mean. Music is. It's a language. You know. Okay. So.

[00:12:06] What about this shit? All right. So. Hip hop. And look. I got a mic on my chest. I can spit bars. Like I love rap. I love it. But. That's what you're doing when I met you. But hip hop is like this CIA frequency. Of low frequency vibrations. Within the music to like. Cap. Populous. Like whoever listens to it. Have you heard about like that whole.

[00:12:35] I haven't. Like I guess like. Not even just like heard it. I feel like I believe it though. I grew up and I grew up in the hood. So it's like. First thing I heard was. West side. Hey yo. Run this up. You know what I mean? So like. Like as a kid. It's like. That. It makes sense why I made so many bad decisions. What the things I was putting in my head. The things I was believing. I was trying to be like. You know. The biggest this. The biggest that. But it's like. In reality. It's like. Like all I really was. Needed to accept. Was myself. But I see how like.

[00:13:04] A lot of my friends. Fell victim to that though too. Because I have friends that. They still be like. Oh look at the whole. Gucci man. He's a snitch. And like. Oh. Instead of seeing for the business side of it. Where it's like. Or did he just play the business side of it. And didn't involve himself back in the streets. And end up in jail for the rest of the life. By attacking Pushaiste. Because they're dealing with a whole case right now. And stuff. And but that's what makes me think. It's like. But it's all a facade though. It's like. They want us beefing with each other. Honestly I've been listening to more. Christian music. I ain't even gonna lie.

[00:13:34] I've been. There's some good Christian rap too. Yeah there really is. All Christian. Like they got a lot of good stuff. They get good rock and roll. Good country. Okay. You don't have to send me something. I ain't gonna lie. I haven't dabbled as much on the. Christian rock and roll. But I like. I've been liking music that like. Fulfills my soul lately. Or sounds like. A little more like. You know not everything has to be like. I'm going outside doing this. There's a time and place for that. But like. Even with that. It gets to a point where. You're. Why do you think you have so much anxiety? You listening to. I'm lonely every day.

[00:14:04] See I'm sad every day. Bro you living in pain. It's an affirmation. Yeah. You know all the lyrics to that track. And they're just like singing it. Yeah. You know. There's good music. Of every genre I feel. Yeah. I literally. If you go through my playlist. It. Every genre is in there. Represented. From. Hardcore hip hop. To hardcore metal. To bluegrass. To EDM. I love all of it. And I think for me. Part of getting older. Was like just adding some more things to the portfolio. And trying different music. Because it's. You know. I didn't want to just listen to country. Or just heavy metal.

[00:14:34] There's good in all of it. So when I go to concerts. I try. I'm like. An artist I've never heard of. Okay. I'll go check it out. You know. That's how I find new music. Usually I find bands that I like. Because they're like opening. For the headliner. I've never heard of them before. And I rock their tunes for the next year. I love it. So I think it's good to keep it mixed up. I feel like that's how I felt. When I discovered. Morgan Wallen. Okay. I was listening to his album. With the last one he dropped recently. He blew up. And well. His songwriting is very genius. He's good. It's like.

[00:15:05] Especially if like. You ever been through heartbreak and stuff. You're like. Oh man. I feel like. I'm dealing with this right now. Bro. Like. Yeah. And even you. You're not even dealing with like that right now. But. It's like. Like he touches such a strong place. Same with Jelly Roll. I was just going to say. Jelly Roll. Jelly Roll's another one. Huge inspiration too right. I love the fact that he still goes back to where he was incarcerated. And plays for the inmates. And he's like. I was here. And now I'm here. And like. He's just always. He never forgot what he's been through. And I like that. I think Jelly Roll is one of the most authentic. Currently. Coming out of the Nashville scene.

[00:15:35] Okay. I don't think he's like playing a character. I think he's truly like. This is me. I've been through some shit. I was incarcerated. And now I'm on the top of the world. Dang. That makes me think of. I've seen this podcast this morning. It's like. When you've been through so much pain. People that have been through so much pain. Are a lot of people that show the most love. Because you don't want someone else to feel that same pain. And that's how you're saying. I feel like the reason he's so genuine is. Everything he's been through to get him to that point. Why wouldn't you appreciate it? Why wouldn't you push forward? Kind of like what I was saying with the Red Rocks things.

[00:16:04] Was once I do get to that level. Where I'm able to do the same thing. I want to come back and. Like come talk to the kids again. And be like. Yo you could do this. Believe me yourself. And like you're what you're feeding is a lie. Don't listen to the CIA music that they feeding. Like Ice Cube told us. Ice Cube is one of the smartest ones. He's a real one. He stayed ahead of it. Ice Cube is a real one. He always. He always was like. No fuck that. Don't trust him. They're trying to play games. Yeah. And he never bought into it.

[00:16:33] He didn't do the 2020 stuff. He stayed away from it. And then everyone shunned him out of. You know. L.A. And he just stuck to his roots. Yeah. And you know. He's not on the list. No he's not on the list. Ice Cube is not on the list. And I'm just going to take this opportunity to say. That anyone who's on that list. The baby eaters that are running our government. Not good. Yeah. Y'all need to get removed. And I'm going to just. I like to bring it up. Or else I'm accepting it. Yeah. So. I actually talk to strangers about this sometimes too. They get really uncomfortable. I love elevator talk.

[00:17:02] Like I used to live in a very tall building. And so like I was. People were forced to be in an elevator with me all the time. And they don't want to talk. And I like to like get into it. I like to guess coffees and stuff. Like what's in your coffee cup? Is that chai tea? You know. You like asking questions. Yeah. And then so like. I would be bringing up the list. And being like. How are you feeling about this? Like. You know. How are people feeling about this in the streets? Because I've seen the internet's opinion. Right. And so I kind of try to bring it up. Because no one's went to jail yet.

[00:17:32] And it's pretty frustrating. So all these constructs. And you go. No. I guess it just made me think of something as you said that. I feel like what's messed up is. Why do you think that they're adding so much like extra stuff? That's something that happens. Like oh they just got the Venezuelan president. We're going to war with Iran. All at the same time the NBA just got raided. And then it's like the baby thing. It's like they're trying to like push away from that conversation not happening. Because it's like. Finding that out should be the biggest story.

[00:18:02] Like they're doing what to babies? Drop everything else. I don't care if the NBA doing what. What. Bro those are children right there bro. And they should be at the forefront. But it's like that's right. They're trying to keep us distracted. Like oh no. Look at this is what is happening. Look at what's happening with this. And it's like. It's not good. It's not good. It's really. And it's getting quickly out of hand. Right now Ebola. That's being pitched this week. The aliens. The aliens. They tried that. It was some of the worst footage I've seen. Just all these distractions.

[00:18:32] And I mean I used to be pretty heavily involved in American politics. Like in the sense where I would vote. I would be. I would pay attention. I would watch the debates. It pulled me in. To the point where like. Fucked with my emotions at times. Yeah. And now I'm at a point where I don't think any of it fucking matters. That's my personal opinion. I think that this. It's all game. There's globalists out there that are calling the shots. And then it's just a trickle down effect. Our president is a puppet who works for possibly Israel. Right? Yeah. Possibly. I didn't hire him. I didn't hire that fool. Yeah.

[00:19:01] Yeah. This would be a good PSA. With Israel being on the show. Has no affiliation. Yes. To Israel. Yeah. Clear your name right here. Clear it. Any Uber driver. If you ever pick this dude up. Do not ask him these basic questions. Yeah. I just had to bring it up a little bit. Yeah. Because all these conspiracies are pretty interesting. And I went through like a two week period where I was like fully entrenched. And I was like. A radical. Upset. Like I was pissed off. And I was like why in the fuck am I showing up to my day job?

[00:19:31] And then like I got the St. Miguel pendant. And I feel like that helped my peace and like my spirit. As far as like okay I'm protected. Like how can I stay protected? And it was really to like you know not make my life about this. Because just because the fire exists doesn't mean we got to dive in it. You know. So knowing that it's there and it's hot. And you can't trust that. Is also important. So I just really hope that a lot of people are awake to it.

[00:19:58] But I don't think anyone's going to go to jail in the United States. Absolutely not. Like over this list that keeps getting redacted. Amongst every other corrupt thing. They're going to magically disappear. Oh yeah. Or pass away or fell off a boat. Yeah. Into the ocean. You're right. I mean that's where they're at at this point. You know. Oh so and so. We haven't seen them. Don't know what happened. Yeah. And it was all these like nuclear scientists. Yeah. The scientists disappearing. What's going on? Or like the NASA scientists and stuff. Like I don't know.

[00:20:28] I don't even know if like we've been to them. My lack of trust is the highest it's ever been. Those videos are not it. I agree. Those videos are not it dog. No. 1969. I'm like we got iPhones that shoot better than what y'all shooting up there dog. Like y'all couldn't just drop an iPhone up there. Like come on. Well then you know the thing about conspiracies is people always go well why would they do that? Why? Why? They wouldn't do that. Why would they want your. No they don't. They want the control. They want the.

[00:20:57] They want people questioning everything. Look at what's going on with AI. People. You go in the comments of a video now. People go that's AI. No it isn't. Nobody knows what's real anymore. Yeah. Now they got that to lean on. That's the scapegoat to everything. Oh you got me in this video. That's just AI. That's AI. Yeah. Well even now I don't know if y'all know the whole thing going on with the Denver artist that's blowing up out of Denver. That she goes by Denver. Okay. That song's AI. But everybody's running it up like oh he's so talented so this. And I'm not hating. Congratulations to all your success.

[00:21:27] But I'm going to tell you though you didn't write that. You didn't perform that. So it's not you bro. Like. It's true. And but the city's like well he was at Rolling Loud recently which is a big stage. Like you know. He just went on a couple different big platforms and it's like yeah. That's cool for the city. It's a win. But it's like what about all the great artists who really were sitting there writing their bars performing. Practicing these small venues and doing that. It's almost like you know. It's hitting on their whole head. Like correct. It's hitting the easy button.

[00:21:55] So is this artist performing what was written by AI or is AI performing it. So he reached when he did perform it. He was kind of like lip singing. Not really like singing to it. And while the reason people know it's AI you could run it through an AI generator and find out. And a lot of producers that are out here are the ones who actually. Because it's not my theory. I heard it from other producers and they ran it through it. And they a lot of people have broke it down like hey he actually didn't write this. And when you listen to it you could tell it's like the voice how he speaks. How it is.

[00:22:25] It's two different places. Like it sounds like Bryson Taylor dog. Like come on. Well I'm at a crossroads with it because I need to use it daily for my professional and kind of personal life. I would consider this personal and professional. Yeah. But so there's a lot of great applications in which AI is amazing. But when you can't even like write your own sentence to a group of people.

[00:22:51] Like you have to use AI in order to send a communication or to brainstorm or to do research. Like or you get like your news from AI. It's just it's removing the capacity for people to think. And that's the long game. That's the long game. They want people to be stupid. To rely on whatever propaganda Google has. Or you know chat GPT.

[00:23:17] Because you know all the AI companies like they're all in the pocket too. And like what it says back to people have like they control it. They control the narrative. They feed it what the narrative is. Right. Because the algorithm picks up on it. Now you scroll in that. He sees that. But I feel like that's why honestly lately I've been trying to read the Bible more man. I've been trying to get closer to God. I've had a couple encounters with God of you know him.

[00:23:44] And I can't deny that Jesus is real when I see it's like all this evil going on. But when I pray I feel better. When I lean on God I see him trying to help me and guide me. And I'm a person where I'm not going to say I'm a Christian. Maybe a dirty Christian because I'm still not there. But I know that that God is working on my heart. And he is trying to like lead me to something. Because if it wasn't like there's many times I could have died. Would have not have been here. Would have gave up already.

[00:24:11] And like I could hear God like don't give up. Or I still got you. Or he's put people in my life. Like the first time I ever did believe in God was through my brother who passed away. And even that I kind of lost my faith once he passed away. But you know. So it was more of a pride thing of why I walked away. But as I get older and like start to heal a little more. It's like it's okay to forgive God. It's not God's fault. Like maybe it was my brother's time and he's in a better place. And also too I can't be selfish. Like who knows if he was out here dealing with pain.

[00:24:41] Or would I want that for him. He's in a better place now. You know. So even with that it's like. If it doesn't come from God. Like I don't want it. Like AI. They even talk about that. The mark and the beast. They don't put the chip on your phone. Like. And it's like. We're there. Yeah we're there. We're living in some scary times. And it's. I feel very spiritual. Like. The whole airline thing. Where it's like people saying they're seeing demons faces and stuff. That's not. That you. I'll send you guys that. Because that one looks crazy. Like the right. Like vision right. Like a. Yeah. Like a syndrome.

[00:25:11] That they're trying to call it like a disease. That you could see someone as a demon. Which I'm like. I think that's just people spiritually waking up. And being like. There's something beyond our like. Because why are they eating babies? Right. Why are they making those sacrifices? That is not from this world. Like. Yeah. There's definitely different frequencies happening. Yeah. And I think those are starting to conflict. And I think we're starting to see it cross over into current timelines. And you know. It starts to sound really bizarre when you dig into it. But that's kind of. That's what it's got to be. Right. You got people that are on this frequency.

[00:25:41] You got people on this frequency. The NPCs as we call them. Which is kind of a funny way. They're just walking around. You know. Yeah. Aimlessly. They're at a lower frequency. And they're more susceptible to the garbage. Right. Man. You got people that are locked in. They're tapped in. Religious folks. Usually. You know. Can pick up. Good and evil. Just people that can think for themselves. Right. Yeah. We're really losing touch with that as a society. Right. Hitting that easy button. Yeah. I mean. Look. I believe in a higher power. I think. Every religion.

[00:26:10] Has layers of corruption. So. So. I believe. I believe in that 100%. And. You know. A very religious country. Which you might share the name of. Is. Is like. They are not funding this. I promise. Yeah. They're using. They're using the United States. And like. So. So. There's all this religious stuff. And. I believe. That it is. There. If you want to be truly aligned. You must have some centered spirituality within you.

[00:26:40] It's necessary. And alcohol dilutes that. Marijuana dilutes that. High fructose corn syrup dilutes that. And. Sex. Cornography. Yeah. Like lust and all this stuff. Like. So. It's. It's like really important. Because it's like. These evil powers truly do exist. And. If you're like me. Or you are religious. Then you got to be a warrior of the light. And like. And like. Be stronger than any negativity.

[00:27:10] And. I've been feeling that recently. And it scares the fuck out of them. Like. Yeah. That's more powerful than. Than they are. Sure. But one thing. I'm going to loop it back into like. Kind of this like. Cannibalism type of conversation. Is. Like. The things about McDonald's. And it not being real meat. And then. Potentially. Like having. Human meat. Human remains in the meat. Like. If they're doing that. Then on a spiritual level. If you've eaten McDonald's. Then you've eaten like. Human meat.

[00:27:40] Then that does something to your spiritual level. Yeah. Right. Like I've heard. I've heard that. Maybe I feel like. Hopefully God. If I'm right. There should be some grace. If you don't know. Which you know. Yes. That's weird that they're doing that in the first place. But like. I feel that like. I can't even eat McDonald's no more. I try to eat one of their burgers. I was like. I'd rather cook something at home though. Yes. Yeah. It's like. Because when I did try it. I literally physically felt sick. Like my stomach hurt. I felt like throwing them. I'm like. And I'm like. And not only that. It's super expensive.

[00:28:10] Like. I'm paying like. Almost like. Ten dollars for one burger now. Like. And it's not even going to hit the right spot. And it's. I mean. Campbell's came out straight saying they're a 3D printing chicken. Their chicken noodle soup. The CEO of Campbell's came out and said it's not even fucking edible. That's crazy. We're eating plastic and shit. Yeah. I mean. That's the crazy part too. Is it. Like. There has been soft releases. Like. This information is out there. Yeah. But it's easier to ignore it. Because folks will do more to avoid pain than they will to gain pleasure. So it's easier to be like. Eh. I don't want to think about that. I know. Give me my drugs.

[00:28:39] Give me my McDonald's and my Netflix. Yeah. Let me stay in my little comfy place here. Let me doom scroll. Doom scroll. I always get depressed when I doom scroll. I do. I don't have time to go to. If I scroll for like an hour. I'm getting depressed. I just don't have that kind of time. You know. It's funny. It's like. We used to laugh at those type of memes. Back in the day. Of like. Oh. Look at that. The world's going to be like this one day. Here we are. We really like that. And I was on the. I took the train. I was downtown. To get to another side of downtown. Because it was just more convenient. Where everybody was. Nobody talks. Nobody talking. I'm looking out. I was the only one.

[00:29:09] Because I was like. I was like. I didn't want to be that. I was all trying. Hey. How y'all doing? Like. Looking at me like. I'm crazy. I would talk to you in public. Hey. What's up? You see. That's why you're my brother. Like. If I ran into you. And like. We started a small talk. I'd be like. Yeah. That could do is chill. And like. Because there are some warriors out there. There's people out there that. Are not. They're disconnected from. The programming. For sure. It's programming for sure. Social engineering. So what do we do. To stay happy. And enjoy our lives.

[00:29:39] And. And I think it's getting back to the basics. Let's stop using AI as much. Let's go get real connections. Real conversations. Like discussion combustion here. Absolutely. And whatever. Whatever your podcast name is going to be. Oh yeah. It's on the way. Is that coming this year? 2026? I'm hoping to get it started. That's part of that love. Pushing yourself back. And pushing yourself opportunity. There was a multiple times where I had. Able to start it. And you know. I would line something up. And then not follow through with it.

[00:30:09] And stuff. I was working at a media company. So I learned a lot about. The behind the scenes. Nice. Working with the board. So I know how hard y'all work now too. A lot. Was editing those videos. A easy. And you know what I mean. And just chopping everything up. Or just see. We're doing live edits right here. Yeah. Art's the best button pusher. Yeah. I'm just hitting the buttons. And this is the final product. You see. And I didn't get that far. Advanced with it. Because there's different people doing it different ways. Like Pac said. There's more than one way to skin a cat.

[00:30:38] There's more than one way to shoot a gat. There's more than one way to die. Is what Pac says. Yep. He got taken out too early. Yeah. Because he was speaking the truth. Speaking of Diddy. He was trying to like empower people. I'm going to call him out. Dude. That's ridiculous. That was 100%. Diddy. He saw the competition coming in. He's like fuck that. Get rid of Biggie. Get rid of Pac. I'm the shit. Yeah. What is he even. Didn't Jay-Z leave the country too? Did Jay-Z's like I'm out. Later. Did he leave the country? I don't. That's crazy. I don't even know. That dude's like a ghost nowadays. It's like is he here? Is he not?

[00:31:08] He's dropping an album. He's a ghost. You know what I mean? He's guilty. Yeah. And I don't. Eminem. I'm not sure. You know. Like look. Some of these people might be on the list. And they were just around. Sure. Like they maybe didn't participate in his hands act. They didn't R&T children. Yeah. But they were in the presence of people who were. Yeah. And like you know. And if not calling that out. It's not good either. You're not even going to call that out. But then that's the end of your life. You kind of are blackmailed and extorted. That's like the end of your life. Look at Jesus. Well.

[00:31:39] You know. He stood up again. I'm just saying like. Sometimes you got to. If you really don't sacrifice for the greater good. It's like. That's a good point. Are you willing to go to the other side? And like. I guess. I was thinking about this. What made me more like. Honestly for me. Because I was kind of like you are. Was I. I was more spiritual. And not religious. Especially because I grew up in the hood. My family wasn't really like. Go to church. Go pray. Like. You got to go to church every weekend. So even when I started to get religious. I'm like. I don't believe. Or I'm not. That's not me.

[00:32:09] But I had this one experience where. I was doing something wrong. And I knew I was doing it wrong. And I didn't want to read the Bible. But I was like. You know what? Something close. I opened the Bible to a random page. And literally the thing that I was messing up on. God gave me a message. Of how to fix it. Why I'm doing it wrong. And if I keep continuing to do it wrong. Why I'm feeding into the flesh. Instead of doing it like for God's purpose. And it just kind of blew my mind. And little experiences like that.

[00:32:39] Or earlier this year. I started going to church. And there was a men's conference. And I was being stubborn. When they asked everybody to come up and pray. Because I was like. Those people don't look like me. Or they didn't grow up how I did. I was trying to judge the crowd. And then right when I said that. Some dude from LA. That was a Christian. Was all like. God told me I need to pray for you. And mind you. I'm in my head. Like thinking. I don't want to go up there. And pray in front of everybody. He grabbed my shoulder. And he's like. Do you give your life to Jesus? And I don't know. When he said that at that moment.

[00:33:09] I ain't gonna lie. I busted down crying. And I just felt like this love from God. Like. Man. I want to be better. And little moments like that. Made me believe. Like it's. That's how we fight back. Against that evil. It's like. I be praying for people now. I be like. Even I didn't see y'all for a minute. I throw you guys in my prayers. Sometimes like. Hey. I'm a discussion combustion. Doing good. Like. Love them guys. Even if I don't see them again. Like I pray for my brothers. Like. Friends I don't see for a while. It's like. I've tried to feed that light. Because. I ain't gonna lie. I struggle too. I have my dark days. Where I gotta.

[00:33:39] Pray for myself. Or go to war. I feel like the devil's attacking me extra. And especially as I get closer to God. I feel that more too. Where it's like. The devil will be like. Throw a woman like the baddest one. But you know she's not good for you. Yeah. And you're like. What the heck. And you're like. Why is this happening. Or put you in situations like. Oh you could go make money like that. But it's like. You know you shouldn't do that. And stuff. And throws all these opportunities. When it's like. No my son. Quit trying to. Like how you said earlier. Quit trying to take the easy route. Yeah. Like you know. Just because it's easy. Like with AI.

[00:34:08] Just because it seems faster and easy. Doesn't mean it's good for you. Yeah. It's true. And every day there's something coming at us. You know it's a test. It's a constant test. However you view it religiously. Yeah. From the universe. Spiritually. Everyone's being tested. And so. We'll see who's going to pass the test I guess. Damn I never passed those growing up. You're going to pass them now. But. No. We're more powerful than they led us to believe. Yeah. And that's why alcohol is on every fucking corner. Um. So.

[00:34:38] We're telepathic. Like it's the. It's the voice of God. Our intuition. We're telepathic. Like humans have. Like this energy field. And that's why when you know something isn't good for you. Or like. We know the truth already. Like we. Like. When I was. You know. Fucking up doing pills. And not paying bills. And being a dumbass. Like I knew deep down. That it was not good for me. And I was running from accountability. I was running from being responsible.

[00:35:08] And it's like. When. When it's good for everybody. Then it's good for you. And for you to be good for everybody. You got to take care of you. You got to fill your cup up before you fill somebody else's. Exactly. Exactly man. So. So that's kind of like. Like where I. I. There's something bigger at play here. I can't. I can't dedicate myself to one religion. Because I believe they're all praying to the same energy. Like I believe in there is one.

[00:35:36] As long as you're praying and like believe in something bigger than I'm just a human on this spinning rock. Even if none of it is true. The imagination is great. And our perception is what we believe and see. So you can create like a beautiful life for yourself. Where it's full of magical and wonder. Or you can like put yourself in a box and close it off. No light. And I feel that though. Because I guess especially me. Like as an artist. It's easy to be like. Well I create everything. Like you know. Because you're an artist.

[00:36:06] Like you. You're so quick that I created this album. I created this opportunity. And that's like what I love about God though. Sometimes he humbles you. Where it's like. Well look how many times you might have failed in that. Or you didn't have enough strength to do that. Or you felt that anxiety. And now that I'm taking time to slow down and trying to pray. It's like. I'm feeling it a little less. Like yes there's those moments around my days. Like I said this morning. Not a good morning. But you know I went. I read my bible. Got a haircut. Felt better. I was like you know. I'm gonna go see my boys. And have a good conversation.

[00:36:36] Like what am I stressing about. Like be grateful you live in another day. Like you know. It's easy to get caught up in that voice. That's telling you. You're gonna lose. Yeah. Shut the fuck up. It's there. It's there. I'll straight up. Sorry to interrupt. No you're good. You're good. I'll tell myself. I'm like Arthur. You're doing enough. You are good enough. Like I'll have like three minutes sometimes. Like a couple times a week. Like where I'm just trying to like be my own cheerleader. You have to. You know.

[00:37:05] You have to. You gotta cheer for yourself. You know. He's like give me an A. What does that spell? Arthur. Yeah. I need that. I needed that for me. I'm happy I did that for me. You gotta be good to yourself. You know. And especially like how you spoke earlier. Where you kind of coming from that pain. It's easy to like. You can't do that. Or listen to that voice of negativity. Of like. You know. Oh you're not doing good. Or how we spoke about other folks earlier. It's like.

[00:37:33] Some people aren't ready to hear that at that time. Like even for yourself. You might not be ready to hear that. Because in one year you have the cheerleader. The other year you got this little woman like. Ha. You're gonna look at that cheerleader. You're gonna fall. Like you know. And you're like. Find this war in your head. Yep. The devil and the angel on the shoulder. I've grabbed for both their hands. Now it makes sense why they had those in all the movies. There was definitely some foreshadowing. For sure. With a lot of things. No. All the movies.

[00:38:01] They're just going off real life stories. Yeah. But there was so much foreshadowing in the 80s. You know. With like the Terminator. And just a lot of this shit that's starting to happen now. Yeah. You know. There was foreshadowing. For sure. Hey. Like y'all were talking about the baby eating. The whole Disney conspiracy. Oh yeah. You know what I mean. Of how they snuck that or Nickelodeon and stuff. All the weird stuff with that. And then that cruise ship that got busted. And it's like dang. I used to love those shows as a kid. And it's like now it ruins it for you. They were programming us. Yeah. Once you see it. And it's like that's crazy. Like Brennan Stimpy for kids. Super inappropriate. Yeah.

[00:38:30] I mean it's hilarious. But it's super inappropriate. Looking back at it and stuff. You're like oh I was watching that. And at the same time. Like they're like banning a kite runner. Or like all these different books in school. Right. That like talk about humanity. Yep. And. Ban them. You know. So. We only have so much time for this episode. That's true. But. This could be a Rogan right now. But one thing I want you to check out. Since I know you are into the truth. And like all the conspiracies came true basically. Yeah.

[00:39:00] Aliens exist. I was talking about that like a year ago. Yeah. I believe in aliens my whole life. Yeah. They've always been around. But Tartaria is like near Mongol. To World War. In a Russia area. And the two world wars were to destroy all the infrastructure. And erase their civilization from history. If you look at old world maps. You can find Tartaria. And then you start looking into all the buildings. Like the state capital buildings. And all these massive stone structures.

[00:39:29] That they did with like donkey and horse and chisel and stuff. Allegedly. That they say. Those are all apparently Tartarian buildings. And the way that they built them. We know with Nikola Tesla. That he found free energy through the hemisphere. And you can do it with like copper. And like a couple devices in your own backyard. And these buildings powered the earth for free energy. And so like this whole Tartarian civilization. It's wild. That's a very interesting one. And. I don't know.

[00:39:59] That's the juice I got. Even that's like crazy though. It's like if you could power it. Like for everybody. That just shows that they want to keep us control and working. For sure. And like keep us in this box. Because it's like if you. The only reason they don't do that. Is because they're living a certain means. They're living high. The one. Why do you think they call it the one percent. It's like you're telling me. This who has billions and billions of dollars. But then you go walk down Colfax. And there's a bunch of homeless people. That can't afford nothing. That are dying and overdosing every day.

[00:40:27] And they know that they could do something about it. But they rather not. What's going to affect my 10 year generations. My five years generations. It's like at that point you're putting your prosperity of your genes over the whole like civilization. That's kind of scary dog. It is. And that's just another reason not to trust the political system. Right. These people campaign. We're going to clean up the streets. We're going to give money back to these guys. Meanwhile we're shipping billions of dollars over to Israel. Just to fund war. They're war fighters. That's what it is. And that's even.

[00:40:56] Even that like why do we got to fight third war when it's like the moment. If anything like pray to God nothing happens in America. But if it ever did who's going to help us. We hear all the time people hate us. We hear all the time that people like that we need a debate. But we easy to send money. We're trillions of dollars in debt. What are we sending? Right. Who are we paying? Who are we paying? That's like that one homie that keeps borrowing when you know he broke. Yeah. He's like oh yeah I'll get you back. Yeah. Okay. Like damn it Billy.

[00:41:25] I won't hear from you again until you need more money. So yeah. Sorry man. America's come on we're cool. Yeah it's ridiculous. I don't know that. So like this is a thought process that I do to keep myself safe and my loved ones blessed. And that is like I picture a tight rope that isn't a straight line but it's like you have to have a balance. And there's mayhem, chaos, death, fucking corruption, everything all around. But I'm on this path of prosperity. To tone through it.

[00:41:54] And like I believe in anyone that's in my circle. You included. Anyone who I've ever spoke to and like you know wanted them to succeed. Like all I pray that all everyone is protected. And on that path through the chaos. Through the chaos. Because it's pulling at you. Yeah. It's all around me. That's why they call it a roller coaster. That's what makes me almost think of too. Like that rope is like you go into this roller coaster and some days you up. Some days you down. But in that noise it's like there's fireworks over here. Bangs over here. And it's like you're right. You just got to keep praying and pushing.

[00:42:25] Damn. They ain't took us yet brothers. Yeah. For sure. It's going to keep getting rocky. You know this thing. We're just trains just leaving the station I think with the chaos. Like you said the Ebola thing coming up. Yeah man. It's like if the pandemic shut down the world. What is this going to do? Well we got tested with that once. And we'll see if it happens again. Because it's easy to weaponize viruses. They tried it with Huntavirus last week. The debt didn't land. But Ebola is scary because it's a real thing. Right. It's existed in Africa for a long time. Weaponize existing viruses. It's coming. Ticks.

[00:42:55] Keep an eye out for ticks. Ticks. Yep. I think they're going to try to push Lyme disease. I think you're going to be hearing upticks on that. No pun intended. So you know. And I hate to be this weird conspiracy guy now. But that's where I've landed because I don't trust any of it anymore. Yeah. I think we've been lied to our entire lives. No. Sure. Even the guy who just ran up in the White House and stuff. Oh yeah. The correspondence shooting. Yeah. Yeah. It just seems like every week. It's smoking ears. That was staged. It's smoking ears bro. Everything. They're paid actors. It almost makes me think of. There's this show on Netflix.

[00:43:24] I think it's like the Americans or something like that. And it's just like. It shows all like. It's about America and all the little tricks they do to keep it afloat. And like the. They had fake presidents and stuff. And there's different timelines in it. But I'm like. Why do I feel like they're showing us where we're living right now dog? Because it's probably accurate. It's probably accurate. Yeah. They. All we can do. Is walk the tightrope. That's all we can control. Yes. Control the controllables. Right. Because it's crazy right now. It's just.

[00:43:53] It's getting out of hand. So yeah. Everyone listening. Definitely support your local communities. Yes. And that means musicians. That means cooks. That means farms. That means getting as local as you can. Your neighbors. You know. Help out your neighbors. Yeah. Try to be nice. I think that's what we need more of. We need more of people coming together than being pulled apart. Because this world is so divided at this point. But you still. You still can't trust anyone. No. I'm not saying trust them. But just be there. You can't fully trust. It's good to help out. Right. It is good. What's that rule?

[00:44:23] Like when someone sees someone struggling. Then everybody else starts running in. Oh yeah. When one person goes to help. Right. Be that person. Yeah. The first one to start. To the best that we can. Help the old lady cross the street, dog. Yeah. Help them out, man. You know. But no. Everyone just wants to pull their phone and start recording it instead. Oh, look at the chaos. And that's crazy. I saw Tyler Crater has this album called Don't Tap the Glass. And the reason he created that album was it's sad as a civilization that you can't go to the club and start dancing.

[00:44:52] Or everyone looks at you weird because everybody wants bottle service or look cool or stand like that. And he's like, what happened with just enjoying yourself? And it's like, don't tap the glasses. Like you can't tap outside of that frame of the phone because it's like people, like you said, people want to quit to record you instead of just enjoy the moment and stuff. And that's kind of a scary place to be. We almost like robots without the super intelligence. That's what they want. It's easier to assimilate a society that's already programmed. Yeah.

[00:45:19] So I'm optimistic for this younger generation that they're going to swing the pendulum back the other way and go old school and support local musicians and all the great things. Local barbecue. Man, I've got to try some of that. And you said June 6th? Yeah, June 6th. I'll send you all guys after the flyer with everything to double confirm, yes, June 6th for the audience listening. Tomorrow we're going to do a rave pop-up with River Bar. So Thursday?

[00:45:46] So that's just more of a passion project, though, that I'm doing with a couple DJ friends helping them out. What date? Is that Thursday or Friday night? Yeah, Thursday night. So tomorrow. Okay, so when this drops, it'll be tonight. It'll be tonight. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So that's kind of what I got going on. Like I said, I kind of have my hands in a lot of things right now. Yeah, you're busy, man. So it's like from the music to, I guess you would say, promoting and learning the media stuff. But I guess if I close the podcast, one thing on my end is I want to pray for everybody.

[00:46:16] Hope y'all safe. I hope y'all are carried in love and guidance. And the Lord looks over y'all. Y'all tooken care of. I want to pray for my brothers in this room. Pray that they're tooken care of, that they walk that tightrope with love, peace, and that this podcast prospers. And that you just look over as God. In Jesus' name, amen. And I thank y'all for having me on. Bless. Amen, brother. Thanks for closing us out with a prayer. Thanks so much. Israel is real. He's a real one, folks, for sure. Thanks for supporting us all these years, man.

[00:46:45] Let's not make it two years again. Nah, even if it's like a good friend, like two, three years, I'd always still support. Because it's like that genuine love of like, I want to see y'all win as much as I want to win for myself. It's like, I'll still be rooting. Like, yeah, give me an A, bro. I'm going to be shouting from the corner, bro. Hey, well, I do got to say that your energy was always good. But I could tell that you've been through some growth and some change since in the last two years.

[00:47:13] And like, there's something a little bit more definitive about your energy, man. So I got to say, like, if no one's told you, I can sense the growth in you. I can tell. I can tell, man. And back at you as far as like all the love and to families and success with their journeys. And anyone who's driving out there listening to this, you're going to get home safe. Absolutely. Absolutely. That's a great way to end it. Thanks again, brother. We'll keep in touch. Let's sell you some barbecue. Let us know when your podcast's out.

[00:47:42] We're going to be a guest on there. Definitely. And then we'll get you back on here to promote that when that drops. For sure. So let's rock and roll, baby. Be good to yourselves. You deserve it. Love you. Love you.

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