Erin Pettigrew 2 | Discussion Combustion Podcast | #258

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[00:00:16] That was a good flick though. Adam Sandler's done a lot of good stuff and I heard he's got

[00:00:20] What's that golf one happy Gilmore? There's a second one in there. Are they coming out with a new one? Stop that. It's been confirmed by Adam Sandler. Oh my

[00:00:27] see

[00:00:29] I'm worried about sequels. I'm worried about the number twos and especially with a happy Gilmore

[00:00:34] I know it's the bar is gonna top that first one. The bar is set too high

[00:00:38] I like the whole tent the whole tent thing that he had going on in that movie

[00:00:41] Remember he had like this massive tent in the backyard now. That was Billy Madison. Oh, okay

[00:00:46] See I'm getting them confused now, but also a great movie

[00:00:49] But happy Gilmore, you know he has to play golf to save his mom as grandma as a state

[00:00:52] Okay

[00:00:53] So my guess is like the plot with this is he probably inherited the estate and now he's gonna have to the golf for it again

[00:00:58] Or something see I'm thinking it's gonna go like kid wise. I think that we're gonna have he's gonna have like second gen like

[00:01:05] He's croaking out on us or something happened to him and now we got to save it for him

[00:01:09] That might be but shooter McGavin has been confirmed. He's he's gonna be in it

[00:01:14] Obviously chubs the real chubs died. Oh

[00:01:16] He was kind of dead in the movie too, so I'm not sure how that's gonna work

[00:01:19] He was kind of dead in the movie and then I'm predicting like Drew Carey's gonna step in because Bob Barker is now dead

[00:01:23] The price is right. So those are my early predictions for happy Gilmore

[00:01:27] I feel like everybody has been taken from us and I didn't know about Bob Barker until and I'm

[00:01:33] A little upset about he was like 99

[00:01:36] When I found out Jerry Springer died, I block it out every time and then I get so upset every time

[00:01:41] My god Jerry Springer used to watch Springer

[00:01:45] That's classic American trash TV. Oh, of course. That's like where it came from. Yeah

[00:01:50] He was like pioneer in it like Ted. He was able to like

[00:01:53] Test all the the networks and like and all of their kind of rules and regulations that they had he like

[00:02:00] He probably created a lot of rules and regulations based upon things that that would happen on the show

[00:02:05] Well, and I think I also come from more of well

[00:02:10] No, I'd love to age the both of you. I'm so sorry

[00:02:13] I love I love Jersey Shore and

[00:02:17] The real world and all of that and the both of you aren't that old so you guys should both at least

[00:02:23] And what is it Jim tan laundry? Oh, yeah, okay, listen. Yeah, that's that's what like the boys slogan

[00:02:30] for the boys. Yeah for polyvinian

[00:02:33] situation

[00:02:35] I wasn't I wasn't my gym. I was already at a high school when that was out. I was watching

[00:02:40] What the hell was I watch? I think the last trash I watched on MTV was like Tila tequila last

[00:02:44] Remember her that was trash happen to her. Oh

[00:02:47] Look her up on tic-tac. Is she a mess? I bet she's a mess

[00:02:52] But bad girls club y'all know anything about bad girls club see

[00:02:56] I'm telling you that what is that what is bad girls club?

[00:03:00] Are we talking here because we're old no, but you're not that old and see

[00:03:04] We're closer to 40 than 30. Well, I'm actually I'm 35 so I'm closer to both 30 and 40

[00:03:10] Yeah, you're in the merry middle right there. Oh, and you're not the same age now. He's older than me 37

[00:03:14] I'll hold two years. Okay a lot can happen in

[00:03:18] 24 months

[00:03:21] Good point you can lose a lot of weight you could overcome addiction

[00:03:23] Like I'm okay

[00:03:24] I mean

[00:03:25] But I mean serious but then also what happens in 24 months is all sorts of reality trash

[00:03:30] And so I just feel like no bad girls club is just them

[00:03:36] It's a show of a bunch of

[00:03:39] beautiful ratchet women that go on there and fight and twerk and party and

[00:03:46] Fight it's oh, it's drama TV. Oh, of course and it's the but it shaped my entire generation

[00:03:54] I have a dear dear friend

[00:03:57] So though like would you what are some like the key points of how it shaped? Oh that like fuck around and find out

[00:04:03] Okay came from

[00:04:04] No, but I think that's where the attitude came from I'm sure fuck around and find out came from more y'all than it came from us

[00:04:11] That's I think that our generation doesn't want to admit it, but we're just revamping

[00:04:16] Now are you Gen Z? I think technically I was born in 1999

[00:04:21] But I like to identify as a millennial. Yes. Yes

[00:04:26] Because I grew up with more that age group and I didn't like I didn't ever I wasn't watching stuff that like my age of

[00:04:33] Kids were watching

[00:04:35] Like I was pretty like young for Jersey Shore and I can quote the entire thing

[00:04:40] I'm really young for my space and I had a my space

[00:04:44] So, I mean yeah the custom music. Oh, I used to get out on a custom music page

[00:04:50] You log on like your music's playing like I'm changing my music. I'm changing my mood

[00:04:57] No to have to switch up your entire my space like Facebook could never like I really think we need to bring my space back

[00:05:04] Because Facebook could never

[00:05:08] Yeah, just for my space Tom was like

[00:05:12] Remember his last name but his profile pic like him like right now like a white boy. He's all excited

[00:05:16] Yeah, and you get a message from him sometimes. He'd be like, oh, it's the guy see that's exactly what this isn't what we need social media has

[00:05:23] Turned into a mess such a negative space. And so why aren't we going back to the vine?

[00:05:30] Being addicted to drama TV yeah, that's not a negative space, of course it is

[00:05:37] Okay, so I'm guilty of this too right so I've been watching some of the like 90 days or like

[00:05:44] Yeah, but to be fair that's with your girlfriend

[00:05:46] It's with my girlfriend. So there's there is that I'm watching on your own

[00:05:48] And and so I'm gonna I'm gonna hit both sides of this a little bit so the advocates

[00:05:53] Okay, so it has the good things is it's brought up a couple questions

[00:05:58] Since I'm walking watching with my girlfriend that we then got to ask each other because the show is like presenting

[00:06:03] Oh, yeah, and some of those actually did open up a good conversation. We learned something about each other

[00:06:07] That's fun. Okay, so there's that it is also

[00:06:10] entertaining of course everybody like the poison of the mind is drama and gossip we all know this and

[00:06:15] It's it's it's addicting to all of us

[00:06:17] So it does have a place for entertainment value and then on the negative side though

[00:06:22] What I will mention is that I've noticed if I watch it too much like I'm watching it too frequently

[00:06:30] Like I feel like anything more than in one hour in a day of drama TV

[00:06:34] I feel like that's my personal limit. I can't watch more than an hour of it

[00:06:39] One day if if I watch it more than an hour in one day

[00:06:44] Then I be start to like think about the drama

[00:06:49] Constantly in your own head. It's in your own day

[00:06:52] Yeah, and then you're like thinking about oh, isn't that stupid how yeah, and then I'm sitting over here

[00:06:56] Concerned about some relationship that was filmed five years ago. Yeah, like what is that?

[00:07:01] So can I let me I want to ask this before I answer that

[00:07:07] Do you think that's like the difference between the male and female?

[00:07:10] Brain because I think that I hear that kind of opinion from males more than us females

[00:07:18] I mean, that's an interesting question and I believe that it's universal

[00:07:24] Beyond gender or like whatever because I believe in that this stuff is

[00:07:30] perpetuating negativity

[00:07:31] Regardless right and it's just how much of that do you want to allow into your life?

[00:07:36] So are you able to think about it as like separation between

[00:07:42] TV and

[00:07:46] Bringing that negative negativity into your own like I think that I can sit there and binge an entire season of

[00:07:53] Batgirls Club Jersey Shore real housewives whatever and then walk away and then realize that I have real life drama

[00:08:00] And so I can you know, I separate that and all or I'll go hide in

[00:08:05] Their rich people drama while I'm dealing with real world drama

[00:08:09] You know, so I'll say one more thing here and hand it off to kev because I'm sure you have some input here as well

[00:08:15] but um, but I think that

[00:08:18] everybody's subconscious echo chamber works the same

[00:08:23] And if our subconsciouses are truly recording everything that happens in our life

[00:08:28] And it's bouncing around in our heads

[00:08:30] Then the more we absorb anything then the more likelihood it is to bounce around in our head

[00:08:35] That's that's how like my pc answer

[00:08:39] I don't like pc answers. No, that's fair. I mean like I've told you when I've watched these pranos, you know a whole season in a row

[00:08:45] All right, something about me starts to change

[00:08:48] I'm like I want to smoke a cigar and you know start talking like tony and fucking gaba ghoul

[00:08:52] You do want to start talking like it it starts to almost rub off a little bit when I get really really sucked into it

[00:08:57] But then there's other programs like my car shows like the grand tour on on amazon love it clarkson's farm

[00:09:02] I feel like i'm learning things that's not really drama tv. That's more like

[00:09:05] You know docu series, you know following some stuff around but they try to sell this these drama stuff as like a docu series

[00:09:11] When a lot of it is kind of choreographed. Yeah to to it instead. Oh, yeah, absolutely

[00:09:14] They put the alcohol there. They want people getting fucked up. They want content. Oh for sure

[00:09:18] One but I feel like that's you know the true difference between you know reality television and

[00:09:27] Like um, that's kind of how I feel about uh, what was that show? Uh

[00:09:31] Storage wars or whatever really big on gas stage right? Ah, it's so stage

[00:09:37] White swap so stage, you know and so at that point like make it a fictional show

[00:09:43] I'm really bad about that like with your uh example of this print. I was like, I'm really bad about that like yellow stone

[00:09:49] I was

[00:09:50] Excuse me. I was a huge sons of anarchy. Oh, that was a great show

[00:09:53] Yeah, and so that was one of the best shows we can can we just say sons of anarchy also ended

[00:09:58] Really good

[00:10:01] I did not watch the last season. I did not watch the last oh, I like the end

[00:10:06] I couldn't I couldn't handle how we started the last season and you know the tragedies that were unfolding

[00:10:13] I I couldn't handle that and I have I want to try to I'm trying to get my girlfriend into it

[00:10:17] So I can rewatch it and then watch the last season. Oh, yeah, that's the way

[00:10:21] But I know so many bikers and like

[00:10:24] Club bikers 1% bikers where I'm just like that's not right like that's not what's going on

[00:10:31] So I think that was a missed representation. Yeah, and by the end of it that was starting to get on my nerves

[00:10:38] Um, but I want to try again so much and charlie hunham hunham whatever jacks teller. Whoo. Oh, yeah

[00:10:44] He's handsome lad. Whoo got a special place in my heart. He was just at the Met Gala

[00:10:49] Whoo, he stepped out for the Met Gala. He looked

[00:10:52] Beautiful top shelf 10 out of 10. Wow. Wow. Wow. Yeah all day long. Yeah

[00:10:57] Was he rocking a beer like what?

[00:10:59] Oh, yeah, no, he looked exactly like jacks teller

[00:11:01] But he was in this all-black suit and he had this like

[00:11:05] rhinestone

[00:11:06] Like bow tie situation and these pearls and stuff

[00:11:09] He just looked very like sleek and dapper and I'm like, but sir take that off and put your cut back on like

[00:11:16] You know, but those type of shows I think I'm way more likely to sit there and in my day like on my drive

[00:11:22] Be like, oh wow. Why did jacks do that? Like what happened tarot? What's happening where?

[00:11:29] Uh, like jersey shore or like those actual

[00:11:31] Yeah, turn it off. Yeah, because I think I to your point. It's so scripted

[00:11:36] There is no way that none of that actually happened like get out of my face

[00:11:40] I mean, there might be some real stuff in between. I think emotions are real

[00:11:44] I think that's real. I just don't think that much of what is physically done yet

[00:11:50] We're gonna go in this room. We're gonna have this scenario unfold

[00:11:53] We're gonna have you two kind of talking about this and then whatever happens happens

[00:11:56] It's like that's what I think it's kind of a layup a little bit

[00:11:59] And then to see what happens like, you know, they're

[00:12:01] Test mice or whatever. But yeah programs yellowstone is fantastic

[00:12:04] We've been waiting for two and a half years for for part two of season whatever we're in five

[00:12:08] I just don't think it's gonna happen

[00:12:10] I mean the writers block or the writer strike pretty much put an end to that

[00:12:14] I feel like and then Kevin Costner is just done. That's where my thing

[00:12:18] I was like, how are you gonna have yellowstone without Kevin Costner?

[00:12:21] And they're gonna do a spin-off, you know, with the Sixes Ranch

[00:12:24] Yeah

[00:12:24] Time to Texas

[00:12:25] Oh, I would like that is Taylor Sheridan going to be a part of it

[00:12:28] Taylor Sheridan's gonna yeah, he's gonna be writing it

[00:12:30] Okay, cool

[00:12:30] What an amazing writer he is

[00:12:32] Thank you. I was like, I'll take Taylor Sheridan on that all day long

[00:12:35] His movies are really good too. Have you ever seen come Heller High Water?

[00:12:37] I don't know

[00:12:38] That's a Taylor Sheridan movie

[00:12:40] It's with Jeff Bridges and these two decent looking lads. They're like bank robbers

[00:12:47] Local banks though

[00:12:48] That one's good

[00:12:49] That's a good movie

[00:12:49] Is that the one with the backhoe where they try to like bury some stuff?

[00:12:52] Yeah

[00:12:53] Oh yeah, okay

[00:12:54] I'm gonna have to look into this

[00:12:57] Jeff Bridges

[00:12:57] Solid performance

[00:12:58] Okay

[00:12:58] Yeah, that's a good one

[00:12:59] Yeah, I like that

[00:13:00] You're feeling their situation, you understand their motivation

[00:13:03] Okay

[00:13:04] Yeah

[00:13:04] Okay

[00:13:04] Really good

[00:13:05] I'm very interested in Taylor Sheridan. I've liked a lot of his things. I think that what was it uh

[00:13:11] 1823?

[00:13:13] Well, so yeah, he did you know 1886

[00:13:15] He did

[00:13:16] Oh see all and oh 1923 that's what I was like

[00:13:19] I loved both of those and I have

[00:13:21] Tim McGraw

[00:13:21] Yeah, and I think that they were so much better than Yellowstone

[00:13:24] These other are better

[00:13:25] Yeah

[00:13:25] I had a hard time thinking center

[00:13:27] They were good

[00:13:27] Oh my goodness

[00:13:29] But do you think that if you would have had them first

[00:13:32] That you would feel the same way

[00:13:34] I don't know that's that's hard to say because like going back to the Sopranos for example

[00:13:37] They released a movie called the many saints of Newark which you need to watch after

[00:13:40] Yeah

[00:13:41] And I was like it was really cool

[00:13:42] But if I had seen that before this prounos

[00:13:44] I don't know if it would have been as fun to lead up to it

[00:13:46] It is a prequel

[00:13:47] Oh yeah

[00:13:48] It tells the old Sopranos story. I don't know. I'm not sure

[00:13:50] See and I think like

[00:13:51] I think that people didn't give those two enough chance because they had watched Yellowstone before

[00:13:57] I think that if it would have came out how it was supposed to

[00:14:00] I think that that would have been one of the most successful things like law and order

[00:14:04] Criminal minds you know all of those things are you know have a billion seasons

[00:14:08] You know general hospital like I think that they had

[00:14:10] Grazinatomy

[00:14:11] Yeah

[00:14:12] Yeah

[00:14:13] That don't get me started on that one

[00:14:17] But yeah I think they had a lot of potential

[00:14:19] No they need to quit

[00:14:20] They need to quit

[00:14:22] Yes y'all

[00:14:23] Okay

[00:14:23] How many scrubs was good though

[00:14:25] Was it like season 20?

[00:14:25] Oh scrubs is really good

[00:14:27] Yeah

[00:14:28] I mean how many seasons of Grazinatomy has there been

[00:14:30] Yeah I couldn't don't quote me but it has to be at least 20 or over yet

[00:14:35] That's crazy. I mean the only shows that that's acceptable for is like South Park which during like season 26

[00:14:40] The Simpsons

[00:14:41] They're on like 33 34

[00:14:44] Because I think they came out 89 which is when I was born it's coming up on 35

[00:14:46] I would love to see Futurama come back

[00:14:49] Oh we love Futurama

[00:14:51] That's a huge staple in our household

[00:14:53] Oh that's good

[00:14:54] I'm happy for your household

[00:14:55] Yes

[00:14:56] Because that's a good staple to have

[00:14:58] I wasn't a Futurama girl until my girlfriend so shout out to my girlfriend because now

[00:15:02] So who's your favorite character?

[00:15:03] Bender?

[00:15:03] Oh come on

[00:15:04] No

[00:15:04] Why not

[00:15:05] No I think that I'd have to go

[00:15:07] That was a hard no

[00:15:08] I'd have to go with probably Nibbler

[00:15:12] Okay

[00:15:12] Or

[00:15:14] No

[00:15:16] What's the um what's the professor's name?

[00:15:18] I'm missing it

[00:15:19] Professor

[00:15:19] Oh that's it?

[00:15:20] Yeah

[00:15:21] He doesn't have a

[00:15:22] He's a professor

[00:15:23] Oh okay well then he apparently I'm very much like him

[00:15:27] And you know the whole like I need my nap damn it like that's me and so I think I'd probably be professor or Nibbler

[00:15:34] Because Nibbler is adorable and then once he starts talking it's over

[00:15:37] Yeah we didn't even know Nibbler was like this uh mega smart

[00:15:41] Have you seen all the Futurama stuff?

[00:15:42] No I haven't seen it all

[00:15:43] Okay

[00:15:43] No I've seen some of them not all of it

[00:15:45] Yeah no it's good but Nibbler is like actually this really smart

[00:15:49] I watch Old Man TV

[00:15:51] Like what?

[00:15:51] Like you know Clarkson's farm that's kind of Old Man TV

[00:15:54] See and I don't even know what that is

[00:15:55] That's like brand new see I think Old Man TV is like the stuff that you'd find on like

[00:16:00] Sea span?

[00:16:01] Yeah it's like on TBS

[00:16:03] Oh I love PBS

[00:16:04] What is it uh Tcm?

[00:16:06] Tcm

[00:16:07] Turner classic movies

[00:16:08] Yeah that's Old Man TV

[00:16:09] Well yeah and then they got like uh you know the uh the gung-ho stuff or like you know all the uh western stuff

[00:16:16] Like the older black and white

[00:16:18] Yeah that's good shit though

[00:16:19] So I feel like that's Old Man

[00:16:21] My little brother is 16 years old and his favorite movie is Smoky and the Bandit

[00:16:25] It's a great movie

[00:16:26] Okay

[00:16:27] I've never seen it

[00:16:28] Yeah that's a good one

[00:16:28] There's some classics out there

[00:16:29] Dukes of Hazard is amazing

[00:16:31] Days and Confused

[00:16:33] Oh Days and Confused

[00:16:34] That's where Matthew McConaughey's All Rat, All Rat, All Rat came from

[00:16:38] Oh yes it is

[00:16:39] We're all pulling into the diner a little driving

[00:16:41] Listen in that man

[00:16:44] Stands time

[00:16:45] He's a Texas boy

[00:16:46] He loves him

[00:16:48] Love him

[00:16:48] Yeah he's a great actor too

[00:16:50] I mean he's a really wonderful person and does a lot and uh and those are the kind of celebrities all support

[00:16:56] If you don't do anything with your fame and your money

[00:16:58] I don't I don't want nothing to do with you

[00:17:00] But if you're a pillar in your community

[00:17:02] Please keep doing what you're doing

[00:17:04] Let's build a community

[00:17:04] Well how about our boy Tom Brady?

[00:17:06] You seen the roast yet?

[00:17:07] Oh yeah

[00:17:07] Of course I did

[00:17:08] What'd you think?

[00:17:09] Nikki Glaser killed

[00:17:10] Okay so truthfully I loved every minute of it

[00:17:13] But here's the thing

[00:17:14] And my dad knows this

[00:17:15] So this is not a secret

[00:17:16] I am not hurting any of my Patriot family members

[00:17:19] I am not a Tom Brady fan and I never have been

[00:17:21] Okay

[00:17:22] So you told me this before that breaks my heart

[00:17:23] Oh I know I was like I think you know that

[00:17:25] I don't like that

[00:17:26] I can respect what he does on the football field

[00:17:29] I can respect you know that he was an amazing football player

[00:17:32] Mm-hmm

[00:17:33] He's a goat Erin

[00:17:34] Yes but I just don't I don't like how he acts off the field

[00:17:37] Is he too feminine for you?

[00:17:39] It's not that I it's I he's too cocky for me

[00:17:42] He's too arrogant for me

[00:17:43] Really?

[00:17:44] Yeah I uh there's a

[00:17:46] There's a lot of tick-tockers who try to you know

[00:17:50] Bring that kind of thing in there

[00:17:51] And there's this one barber that we love

[00:17:53] Shout out Vic Barbers, okay

[00:17:56] But he had his dad meet him

[00:17:59] And he was just very like

[00:18:01] Oh yeah it's me yeah shake my hand

[00:18:03] Because I'm Tom Brady usually and I'm like

[00:18:07] Okay you haven't played

[00:18:08] Cuz look he's been how long has he been off the field?

[00:18:11] This will be a second year off the field

[00:18:12] Oh wow it's only been two years

[00:18:13] He went to Tampa for a while

[00:18:14] Well no I knew about I guess I thought he had left Tampa longer than that

[00:18:17] But then he then he won one with Tampa

[00:18:20] Yeah the first year

[00:18:20] That was nuts

[00:18:21] I mean it's not nuts because it's Tom Brady

[00:18:24] That man carries

[00:18:25] That's what I'm talking about

[00:18:26] Well that's what I'm saying on the field

[00:18:28] He's a god I don't disagree with that off the field

[00:18:31] Get off my face

[00:18:32] Or get off my face get out of my face

[00:18:34] Get off my face

[00:18:36] The roast was great though

[00:18:37] Um yeah and he deserved every ounce of it

[00:18:40] And I just wish it was like actually like targeted there

[00:18:44] I've heard that like they've removed stuff since

[00:18:47] They edited the Kim Kardashian pooing

[00:18:49] Which was one of my favorite parts of the whole show

[00:18:50] And why?

[00:18:51] Oh because you know

[00:18:53] No come on

[00:18:54] Did they remove stuff?

[00:18:55] That's what I had

[00:18:56] I haven't had a chance to watch it yet

[00:18:58] I watched it live

[00:18:59] I did too

[00:19:00] Yes yes yes yes they did

[00:19:02] And the Kim Kardashian thing

[00:19:04] I think is what I'm kind of

[00:19:06] I don't want to say the most upset about

[00:19:07] But I'm kind of the most upset about because

[00:19:10] I'm sure you guys didn't watch Keeping Up with Kardashians

[00:19:13] But like they have showed their ass several times

[00:19:16] On national television

[00:19:16] I just think she's kind of a trash person

[00:19:18] Amen

[00:19:19] That's just my opinion

[00:19:20] I'm not a huge car-gener person

[00:19:22] I love Khloe Kardashian

[00:19:24] That's probably about it

[00:19:26] Can't really get behind him

[00:19:27] So I don't really have a huge educated opinion

[00:19:30] I just know I don't get good vibes from her

[00:19:31] For whatever reason

[00:19:32] I'm like why is she here?

[00:19:34] Because she's pretty

[00:19:35] And has had a lot of work done

[00:19:36] I guess

[00:19:38] Because her parents were uber successful

[00:19:40] And she was riding the coattail

[00:19:43] And her stepdad was a foreign Olympian

[00:19:45] Is that what happened?

[00:19:46] I don't know

[00:19:47] I'm speaking out of line with that

[00:19:48] No no no

[00:19:49] I don't think that you're speaking out of line

[00:19:51] By any means

[00:19:52] So I have no idea

[00:19:52] I will have your back 100% on what you said

[00:19:56] But I also think that

[00:19:58] It started off like that

[00:19:59] But I think that the rest of them

[00:20:01] Really have made their own name

[00:20:03] In their own way in life

[00:20:04] Whether it's good or bad

[00:20:06] They have done it on their own now

[00:20:08] But you're right that it started

[00:20:12] Like that

[00:20:12] But I don't think that anybody really thinks of

[00:20:15] Katelyn Jenner or Chris Jenner

[00:20:16] When it comes to any of their kids anymore

[00:20:18] See that's respectable

[00:20:19] Because like you can

[00:20:21] I think there's a coattail pass

[00:20:25] It's okay to ride a coattail

[00:20:27] To a certain extent

[00:20:29] Yeah but eventually

[00:20:30] You're riding this coattail

[00:20:32] It starts wearing the coat down

[00:20:33] Yeah

[00:20:34] Of course

[00:20:34] You know what I'm saying

[00:20:35] So you have to hop off the coattail

[00:20:37] Before you wear the coat down

[00:20:39] Well but I think

[00:20:40] But I think both Chris Jenner and Katelyn Jenner

[00:20:43] Then just turn to their kids

[00:20:44] And started riding on their kids' coattails

[00:20:47] Coattails is how it happened

[00:20:48] Yeah

[00:20:48] And why wouldn't they at this point

[00:20:50] They're like

[00:20:50] Like we talk about social media and TikTok

[00:20:52] And now they're doing all that stuff

[00:20:53] And getting views and likes and whatnot

[00:20:54] They're like yeah we'll just kick back

[00:20:55] And bring in a percentage

[00:20:57] Well and what a great topic

[00:20:59] That I have been wanting to talk about

[00:21:00] With the two of you

[00:21:01] Excellent

[00:21:02] What's going on?

[00:21:02] TikTok

[00:21:02] How do you guys feel about TikTok?

[00:21:04] I support the ban

[00:21:07] Okay

[00:21:08] 100

[00:21:08] Like actually are you being a smart ass?

[00:21:10] No I support the ban

[00:21:11] I've never been on TikTok

[00:21:13] I don't like social media

[00:21:15] So that's the main reason why I support it

[00:21:17] And you know

[00:21:19] If everything goes through

[00:21:20] With this you know

[00:21:21] By and already signed it

[00:21:22] So by you know

[00:21:23] January 1

[00:21:24] If it's not sold it's gone

[00:21:26] And I'm just curious to see

[00:21:27] I almost want it to be like a sigh up

[00:21:29] I want to see how people react

[00:21:30] To not having TikTok

[00:21:32] What are people going to do?

[00:21:33] So for me it's more of a curiosity thing

[00:21:35] It makes no never mind to me

[00:21:36] I've never been on it

[00:21:38] I don't plan on being on it

[00:21:39] So for me I just want to watch from the sidelines

[00:21:41] How do you feel being someone who's on TikTok?

[00:21:44] I'm new to TikTok

[00:21:46] I would not be on social media at all

[00:21:48] If it wasn't for what we do at Discussion

[00:21:51] Bustion

[00:21:51] Happy Friday America

[00:21:53] Raw Talk

[00:21:54] And also a big supporter of MTG of course

[00:21:57] But if it wasn't for all that kind of stuff

[00:21:58] I really would have removed myself

[00:22:01] From social media

[00:22:02] So that's my like foundation thought process

[00:22:05] And I know that I get trapped into

[00:22:08] The dopamine releases and the algorithm stuff

[00:22:10] And it catches me

[00:22:11] And I've wasted a lot of time on social media

[00:22:14] So I'm also going to agree with that fact

[00:22:17] And I believe that all social media is a platform

[00:22:21] In which bigger entities, corporations

[00:22:24] And however that information is funneled

[00:22:27] But they're all propaganda devices

[00:22:29] In my mind

[00:22:31] So it's like they're gathering my personal information

[00:22:35] Like I could care less about that at that point

[00:22:37] All of them are doing that to me

[00:22:39] The big issue with TikTok is that it's owned by

[00:22:44] Another power, China

[00:22:46] Bits them

[00:22:46] Yeah so then now we're receiving China's propaganda

[00:22:50] Against Americans

[00:22:52] And that's why I believe America wants to ban it

[00:22:55] That makes sense to me

[00:22:56] That can make sense

[00:22:58] I personally, like I'm on either side

[00:23:02] It's whatever

[00:23:03] I'm kind of neutral in it

[00:23:06] If I was making money off TikTok or something

[00:23:08] Like my opinion would be different

[00:23:09] Because I'd be like they're actually paying

[00:23:11] They're paying on the social media or whatever

[00:23:13] So I'm kind of on the fence about it

[00:23:16] It has its place

[00:23:17] I've noticed TikTok is a little bit more addicting than other social media

[00:23:23] And this is how they do it

[00:23:24] There's one special trick

[00:23:27] Do you know it?

[00:23:28] What I'm going to say

[00:23:29] What the special trick is from TikTok

[00:23:31] To keep people on there and scrolling

[00:23:34] No I don't think so

[00:23:35] Because I think my gut answer would be

[00:23:37] Just your super personalized algorithm

[00:23:39] Because man that FBI agent in my phone

[00:23:41] Be working on my TikTok man

[00:23:43] Okay

[00:23:44] So no what is it?

[00:23:45] No that's no

[00:23:47] The algorithm does work

[00:23:48] But the one thing that I notice

[00:23:50] That's different on TikTok than other social media

[00:23:53] Is when I hit the back button to exit

[00:23:56] TikTok plays one more video

[00:24:00] You have to hit the back button twice

[00:24:03] To be able to get out

[00:24:05] Or you have to quit that

[00:24:07] No it does kind of yeah

[00:24:08] It does kind of glitch a little bit

[00:24:10] Nah yeah

[00:24:10] It's like what you want to leave?

[00:24:11] Wait check this out

[00:24:12] And it does and it does

[00:24:13] And I don't think that's talked about enough

[00:24:15] So what a hot take

[00:24:17] No for sure

[00:24:19] That's definitely good

[00:24:20] Now that's almost like

[00:24:20] Are you sure you want to exit?

[00:24:21] Yes are you sure you want to exit

[00:24:23] Yes

[00:24:23] But instead of hitting you with that

[00:24:25] Are you sure you want to exit thing?

[00:24:26] It's like here's

[00:24:27] Let's try you with one more dopamine receptor

[00:24:29] And then it's like

[00:24:31] And is that one like the mega video?

[00:24:32] It's like wow like where is this the all night

[00:24:34] Is that how they do it?

[00:24:35] Maybe sometimes yeah

[00:24:36] And then I'll end up staying on there though

[00:24:37] Like because when you're aware of stuff

[00:24:40] And trying to change your life

[00:24:41] You start seeing more

[00:24:42] And so like I would just be lying

[00:24:44] If I sat here and said that

[00:24:45] I don't see social media abuse on my end

[00:24:48] Like I do it

[00:24:49] Right and I'm trying to work on it

[00:24:51] That's the thing

[00:24:52] You know and so I think it's one of the

[00:24:53] Most addictive ones

[00:24:55] Like because the algorithm is good

[00:24:56] Or FBI agent whoever's running that thing

[00:24:58] Yeah Mr. FBI

[00:24:59] Yeah but whether if it gets banned or not

[00:25:01] Like it's whatever

[00:25:03] They're all just propaganda machines and like

[00:25:06] My instinct tells me it's not going to be banned

[00:25:08] I think something's going to happen between now and then

[00:25:09] But what do you think about TikTok?

[00:25:10] So I don't think it should be banned

[00:25:13] I think that of course as we were talking about earlier

[00:25:17] That negative or social media, reality, TV, blah blah

[00:25:20] Create so much negativity

[00:25:22] So I could give you a thousand cons on TikTok

[00:25:25] But I think that the immense amount of jobs

[00:25:28] That it made during COVID

[00:25:30] And a lot of things for Americans

[00:25:32] Specifically we don't even have to talk about

[00:25:34] The rest of the world

[00:25:35] Like the content creation part of it

[00:25:37] Because I've been really proud as being like an adult

[00:25:40] With this app

[00:25:41] Because I think if I was like in high school

[00:25:43] Or something I'd have some pretty raunchy

[00:25:45] For you pages

[00:25:46] But I have really wholesome

[00:25:48] And just really cool for you pages

[00:25:50] And then like it gives a lot of voices to a lot of people

[00:25:54] Like we were talking about earlier

[00:25:56] I would know nothing about Jelly Roll

[00:25:58] Or his life without TikTok

[00:25:59] What?

[00:26:00] Nothing

[00:26:01] And now him and his wife are some of my biggest inspirations in life

[00:26:05] Like genuinely

[00:26:07] And so I think that it's

[00:26:10] I think it was a really beautiful place

[00:26:12] To be brought

[00:26:13] I think that there is improvements that should be made

[00:26:16] So should there be improvements instead of a ban

[00:26:20] Yes absolutely

[00:26:21] But I don't think it should be taken away

[00:26:23] And I think

[00:26:24] It's a

[00:26:24] I think it's a really cool app

[00:26:25] And if you had to tell me as a 25 year old person

[00:26:29] To get rid of all my social media and pick one

[00:26:32] Well now that I say that out loud

[00:26:34] You're picking TikTok

[00:26:35] Well I'd have a really hard one between Snapchat and TikTok

[00:26:39] Yeah for sure

[00:26:39] I still don't understand Snapchat after 10 years being on it

[00:26:42] Oh you

[00:26:42] Oh I was about to be like you have a Snapchat

[00:26:44] Of course I have you on Snapchat

[00:26:46] I don't know why I said that

[00:26:47] That's all predictable shit

[00:26:48] That's all me doing this or whatever

[00:26:50] When you go to the races

[00:26:52] It just makes me so jealous

[00:26:53] Why do you not understand Snapchat?

[00:26:56] Well I think I mean I know how to post on there obviously

[00:26:58] And communicate with people

[00:26:59] But like there's so many layers to it

[00:27:00] That I just always feel like someone's showing me something I never knew about

[00:27:03] Well I think that that also cut

[00:27:05] So I've had Snapchat for

[00:27:09] Since I was in like eighth grade

[00:27:12] So that is you know quite a long time

[00:27:15] And I'm glad that I'm old enough now to say that

[00:27:17] You know it's been quite a long time

[00:27:19] But it wasn't what it used to be

[00:27:21] You know like when I first had Snapchat

[00:27:22] It really was like that

[00:27:24] Take a picture

[00:27:25] It's you know gone in 10 seconds

[00:27:27] And that's how you talk to people

[00:27:29] I can kind of understand how you feel about it now

[00:27:31] Because it is kind of so complex for

[00:27:35] You know what it started out as

[00:27:37] But

[00:27:38] What is complex?

[00:27:39] What is complex about it?

[00:27:40] You know because I think that like

[00:27:41] Why do you have to have like

[00:27:44] A like a little bit moji that you have to dress up

[00:27:46] Why do you have to have wallpapers

[00:27:48] Attached to people's things

[00:27:50] I don't know it's all these things that I'm sure

[00:27:52] You guys

[00:27:53] Setting up a profile

[00:27:54] Yeah kind of

[00:27:55] Like it's like

[00:27:55] That's like a profile stuff

[00:27:56] Yeah no yeah kind of

[00:27:58] Yeah yeah

[00:27:58] And then people get really into it

[00:27:59] Like they'll like show them driving a car

[00:28:01] Something if they're

[00:28:02] Oh yeah no my uh

[00:28:03] My bit moji is I'm in an alien ship

[00:28:07] And I have like a cow

[00:28:08] Because cows are my favorite animal

[00:28:09] So I have like a cow getting abducted from my

[00:28:12] My spaceship

[00:28:13] Oh yeah no it's a big deal

[00:28:14] That's what I mean

[00:28:15] There's like a lot of layers to it

[00:28:16] And then like just you know fundamental uses

[00:28:18] Like replaying something

[00:28:20] It's like hold here and replay

[00:28:21] Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't work

[00:28:23] You know

[00:28:24] Oh one of the layers that I learned was

[00:28:26] Like if you swipe to the left

[00:28:29] Then it locks it when you're recording

[00:28:31] Oh yeah you're talking about

[00:28:32] And then that and if you like go up

[00:28:34] It'll like zoom in

[00:28:35] Yeah

[00:28:36] I didn't I didn't know that until

[00:28:37] You zoom out

[00:28:38] Yeah that stuff's helpful

[00:28:39] It is

[00:28:40] It's like a thing that you learn

[00:28:41] It's like a fine wine

[00:28:41] It gets better with time

[00:28:42] Oh absolutely

[00:28:43] But I think that you know that's

[00:28:46] Part of social media in general

[00:28:49] I think if you let it be

[00:28:51] Stagnant

[00:28:52] Or just you know what you want it to be

[00:28:55] I think that after middle school and high school

[00:28:58] I got really good at being careful

[00:29:00] About A what I post on social media

[00:29:02] B how I feel about what people say on social media

[00:29:05] Because why do I care

[00:29:06] You know and I think

[00:29:07] But I think that's why I support TikTok so much

[00:29:09] Is I think I'm more on there to

[00:29:12] Watch other people of the LGBTQ plus community

[00:29:15] You know talk about their stories and

[00:29:16] With pride coming up

[00:29:18] I see a lot of parents you know with their signs

[00:29:21] Being like if you weren't accepted

[00:29:23] I'm your mom now come give me a hug

[00:29:25] So my mom is my mom really likes TikTok too

[00:29:28] So I'll send her that TikTok and be like

[00:29:29] Please do this at Pride and you know

[00:29:31] It's just it's probably

[00:29:32] Probably get a bunch of hugs that way

[00:29:33] Oh and she uh loved my mom and I said this

[00:29:36] When I was here a year ago

[00:29:38] But she was like oh yeah

[00:29:39] I'll get a whole shirt made

[00:29:40] I'll have a huge sign

[00:29:41] Like that's the first thing that I'll go to do

[00:29:44] And I feel like I don't see that on

[00:29:46] Snapchat and you know Facebook Instagram

[00:29:48] But that also has to do with

[00:29:51] You don't see the whole world on those other platforms

[00:29:54] Where you get TikTok

[00:29:56] More isolated algorithms I guess

[00:29:57] I don't know enough about TikTok

[00:29:58] Like there's gotta be haters over there too

[00:30:00] Is there not

[00:30:00] Oh of course

[00:30:01] Like is there room for comments or is it not like

[00:30:03] Oh yeah yeah but you cannot

[00:30:04] So when you post a TikTok

[00:30:06] You can either turn your comments off

[00:30:08] Or turn them

[00:30:08] Or keep them on

[00:30:09] I hope my comments are on

[00:30:10] I have I don't even know

[00:30:11] We fought with YouTube for four years

[00:30:12] To have our comments back on

[00:30:14] Four years we had our shut down by YouTube

[00:30:16] Oh YouTube shut your comments off

[00:30:18] For a warning

[00:30:20] So thank you YouTube

[00:30:21] You really test our patience there

[00:30:22] We love you

[00:30:23] We love working with you

[00:30:23] Please don't do that again

[00:30:26] I was like I couldn't even

[00:30:27] Begin to see why that would happen

[00:30:29] For you guys

[00:30:29] I I understand why that happens on TikTok

[00:30:33] I couldn't even begin to understand that

[00:30:36] We were talking adult content

[00:30:37] And forgot to click the 18

[00:30:40] Plus button

[00:30:40] And there's a marijuana smoking happening

[00:30:42] On that episode

[00:30:43] Oh copy

[00:30:43] Copy

[00:30:44] I mean you're like

[00:30:45] I mean we made a mistake there

[00:30:46] We did

[00:30:47] That we fucked up

[00:30:48] And that's where again

[00:30:49] And that's a con

[00:30:50] We learned from it

[00:30:50] And that's a con about TikToks

[00:30:52] That I think is I don't think that they

[00:30:54] Regulate enough

[00:30:55] And I think that that's where

[00:30:58] Congress was trying to go with that

[00:31:01] But to the algorithm part

[00:31:02] Congress if your entire FYP page

[00:31:05] Is a bunch of shady shit

[00:31:07] What you looking at

[00:31:08] You know

[00:31:09] Because that's not what my FYP page is

[00:31:11] My FYP page is a bunch of old people

[00:31:13] Getting walked across the street by a six year old

[00:31:15] You know like why wouldn't you want to see that

[00:31:17] Right

[00:31:17] So I don't I don't understand that argument

[00:31:20] That's happening

[00:31:21] But truth be told

[00:31:23] I don't I don't know enough about the algorithm thing

[00:31:25] Truth be told

[00:31:26] And I don't want

[00:31:26] I don't think anybody does

[00:31:27] I don't want to know

[00:31:28] And they keep that secret

[00:31:30] And they're always changing

[00:31:31] Yeah and that's

[00:31:31] They're gonna continue to do that for sure

[00:31:33] And then like when it came to the bill

[00:31:34] In Congress

[00:31:35] They kind of snuck it in their back door

[00:31:37] Into the Ukraine spending bill

[00:31:38] So in order for that to pass

[00:31:39] The TikTok ban had to pass with it

[00:31:41] So it was one of those you know

[00:31:42] Kind of earmarked pork barrel

[00:31:43] It just sticked out right in this bill

[00:31:47] That's shady

[00:31:47] That's what happens in American politics

[00:31:48] Do you guys think that social media

[00:31:51] Like if you took away all social media

[00:31:53] Do you really think that there would be like

[00:31:56] Some significant positive change

[00:31:59] In the world

[00:31:59] I think it would it would be

[00:32:00] You do

[00:32:00] I think it would be a slow process

[00:32:01] I think at first people would

[00:32:02] Extreme boredom would kick in

[00:32:04] Okay

[00:32:04] Which would then drive people to try to

[00:32:06] Create something new around social media

[00:32:08] Or something something new

[00:32:09] Some sort of social engagement

[00:32:10] I think would would be

[00:32:11] You know a competition for to innovate on

[00:32:14] But then hopefully

[00:32:15] I think what we're both hoping for

[00:32:16] And that's an area which will never happen

[00:32:17] Social media is not going anywhere

[00:32:18] Who's kidding dude

[00:32:19] That's not

[00:32:20] But if it did

[00:32:21] It would maybe force people to be creative again

[00:32:23] In other ways like old school art

[00:32:24] Oh for sure

[00:32:25] Social groups and gatherings

[00:32:27] Stapling things to telephone poles

[00:32:29] Like we used to

[00:32:30] Yeah

[00:32:31] Okay

[00:32:31] All right

[00:32:32] That's dating myself

[00:32:32] Yeah

[00:32:33] No

[00:32:33] I mean honestly yeah

[00:32:35] It all worked before

[00:32:37] And there's a lot of benefits

[00:32:38] To social media

[00:32:40] Honestly and we walk this line all the time

[00:32:42] Of where it's like it's beneficial

[00:32:44] But if you're using it right

[00:32:45] Yeah

[00:32:46] And all these otherwise

[00:32:47] Because it's easy to unintentionally

[00:32:51] Fill your thread with absolute garbage

[00:32:54] Absolutely

[00:32:54] Like it's easy to unintentionally do that

[00:32:56] And I was doing it for the longest time too

[00:32:59] Until I realized like okay

[00:33:01] Intentionally like some other ones

[00:33:02] Intentionally unfollow things

[00:33:03] That I don't like to see

[00:33:04] And then now I get more like cat and puppy videos

[00:33:07] And I don't see anything wrong with that

[00:33:09] Those are fun

[00:33:09] If I'm just dealing with that for a moment

[00:33:11] Right

[00:33:12] But it is a distraction

[00:33:13] So if social media left

[00:33:14] Then people would be more apt to living now

[00:33:21] And instead of living through this like

[00:33:22] Social media outlet and window

[00:33:25] I wonder if that is a generational difference

[00:33:28] Because my biggest part of social media

[00:33:30] Is thinking about it's such a

[00:33:33] Connectional outlet

[00:33:34] Like the like we were talking about

[00:33:36] The fact that you guys have international

[00:33:38] Followers like oh my goodness

[00:33:40] That's amazing the fact that

[00:33:42] You know we're learning

[00:33:43] I think I learn a lot about different cultures

[00:33:46] And stuff that I would have never have known

[00:33:48] Otherwise being a Colorado native

[00:33:50] In downtown Denver you know

[00:33:52] And so it's like where

[00:33:54] Where do I find that then as easy

[00:33:57] Like of course do I you know

[00:33:58] Can I go and venture out

[00:34:00] And can I I can give you those answers too

[00:34:02] But where do I find that at

[00:34:04] Like magazines and the newspaper

[00:34:07] But isn't but doesn't that go to your propaganda thing

[00:34:10] Because isn't that

[00:34:11] Everything it's always going to be there

[00:34:12] Yeah okay yeah

[00:34:13] It's just more media

[00:34:14] It's more in our face all the time

[00:34:16] With social media

[00:34:16] It's a blessing and a curse

[00:34:17] And it could be more tailored on social media

[00:34:19] Because it's your own personal

[00:34:20] Agro rhythm opposed to like in a magazine

[00:34:22] It's like released to a public

[00:34:24] Yeah you know it's not tailored

[00:34:26] I think it's a double edged sort

[00:34:27] I think there's a lot of good

[00:34:28] That came out of social media

[00:34:29] And still continues to come out of social media

[00:34:31] Obviously it helps us drive traffic

[00:34:33] To these episodes and stuff

[00:34:34] So it's like there is good

[00:34:35] It comes out of connecting family members

[00:34:37] Sharing pictures

[00:34:37] Watching people grow up from the coast to coast

[00:34:39] There's a lot of great things that come out of it

[00:34:41] But you know of course we're looking at

[00:34:43] The negativity part of it

[00:34:44] And how that's kind of over shadowing

[00:34:47] You know it's almost like a mental health experiment

[00:34:49] Because we really don't know

[00:34:50] What the long term effects of this are yet

[00:34:52] Well in the mental health part of that

[00:34:53] I can give you that all day long

[00:34:55] I mean I think that

[00:34:57] That is a super huge con

[00:35:00] In any part of social media

[00:35:01] And I think generationally

[00:35:04] It gets worse too I think that

[00:35:06] The more that kids grow up with

[00:35:08] Social media the worse that gets I

[00:35:10] Yeah

[00:35:10] I mean one of you know

[00:35:12] I think my generation is one of like

[00:35:14] The starting really like rough ones

[00:35:16] When you had it when you were a kid

[00:35:18] When it was available

[00:35:19] Yeah because you had

[00:35:20] Because there was a lot

[00:35:21] I think one of the biggest things

[00:35:22] That I endured during high school

[00:35:24] Not me personally but you know

[00:35:25] People around me was the nudes thing

[00:35:28] In that getting sent around

[00:35:29] And I remember going

[00:35:30] I want to like send nudes please

[00:35:32] Or whatever

[00:35:33] Send nudes

[00:35:34] Yeah no or

[00:35:35] Because that was like a whole mean

[00:35:36] Or nudes

[00:35:37] Or nudes getting leaked

[00:35:38] Okay

[00:35:39] From like celebrities

[00:35:40] No no no

[00:35:41] Like normal people

[00:35:42] Yeah yeah no you would be in your high school

[00:35:45] And like this girl sent whatever to

[00:35:47] Who she thought

[00:35:48] She seemed real old for that

[00:35:50] Yeah and then now all of a sudden

[00:35:52] You have four high schools that have your nudes

[00:35:54] Like would you

[00:35:55] In that that's something that

[00:35:58] Please God I wish that

[00:36:00] That never happened

[00:36:00] Or kids didn't grow up with

[00:36:02] And that's hard because

[00:36:03] I'm getting ready to

[00:36:06] Be a teacher

[00:36:06] I'm getting ready to you know

[00:36:08] Hopefully shape young minds

[00:36:11] And all of that

[00:36:12] And that's the first thing

[00:36:13] That I'm going to tell all of my kids

[00:36:14] Is like yeah do not get on that

[00:36:16] Until you are like 16, 17

[00:36:19] Like you're feeling

[00:36:20] You're feeling good about yourself

[00:36:21] Which at 25

[00:36:22] I rarely feel good about myself

[00:36:24] So I mean come on

[00:36:25] That's hard to say

[00:36:26] But you know you have to have

[00:36:27] A little bit more of some

[00:36:29] Some grounding in yourself

[00:36:30] Before you can watch that

[00:36:31] Because that can tear you apart

[00:36:33] I

[00:36:35] There's a

[00:36:37] Emily Osment movie that

[00:36:38] I'm

[00:36:40] I believe it's called Cyberbully

[00:36:41] But I'm missing

[00:36:43] If I'm

[00:36:44] Incorrect or not

[00:36:46] But that yeah

[00:36:47] That's a that's a beautiful

[00:36:48] Movie on the perfect way

[00:36:51] To go about how kids

[00:36:53] Get affected by that

[00:36:54] And it's hard

[00:36:55] Three adults having a conversation

[00:36:57] About social media right

[00:36:58] If you had a

[00:37:00] 10 to 17 year old

[00:37:03] In here talking about social media

[00:37:04] That's a completely different story

[00:37:06] And those kids get broken

[00:37:09] And they get you know

[00:37:10] Dischanged and I can't

[00:37:13] Imagine a world where

[00:37:15] I want a child that I know

[00:37:17] To feel like that because of that

[00:37:18] So I would rather

[00:37:19] Us just teach people about it correctly

[00:37:22] I'd rather me have my own kid

[00:37:24] And be like hey babe

[00:37:25] You can have all the social media

[00:37:26] You want but let me show you

[00:37:28] What to do when you see this

[00:37:30] Come to me and we're done

[00:37:32] You know

[00:37:33] Yeah I think that it's all about education of course

[00:37:35] You know the Phil's gonna be out there

[00:37:37] The dark arts they're lingering

[00:37:38] They're gonna get you you know

[00:37:39] So it's I guess like you said

[00:37:41] Learning how to compartmentalize that

[00:37:42] Learning how to navigate that a bit

[00:37:43] But I also wonder too like

[00:37:44] You mentioned 10 to 17 year old

[00:37:46] Do you think that

[00:37:47] Everything being on social media

[00:37:49] And them learning and interacting through it

[00:37:51] Do you feel like that affects or helps

[00:37:53] Their ability to sit down and have a conversation

[00:37:55] Like this

[00:37:56] I think that depends on the child

[00:37:58] And I think that depends on their home life

[00:38:01] With it I think that me and all of my siblings

[00:38:04] We had all the access to social

[00:38:07] Well once they all the access we would

[00:38:09] You know our parents were good at

[00:38:11] Making sure things weren't happening

[00:38:13] But you know we had enough access to that

[00:38:15] Where I don't think that stunted any of us

[00:38:18] But I think that

[00:38:21] Like my little brother

[00:38:22] You know he's 16

[00:38:24] I do think that that is a little hard

[00:38:26] But I think that comes more from

[00:38:28] Not knowing how to separate from your phone

[00:38:30] Right

[00:38:30] Having to have that right there

[00:38:31] The binky

[00:38:32] Yeah and yeah that's exactly what it is

[00:38:34] But I think that then each generation has that

[00:38:37] I mean we were seeing kids flip out

[00:38:40] When Xbox one was around

[00:38:42] And like the dad like there was like this video

[00:38:46] The dad like got all of his Xbox games

[00:38:48] And then like put it in the yard

[00:38:50] And he had to try he had to try to get on more

[00:38:53] And the kid all came out

[00:38:54] Wait what are you doing

[00:38:55] What are you doing

[00:38:56] No dad don't do this

[00:38:57] He's like freaking out

[00:38:58] And the dad drives over all the stuff

[00:39:00] With the driving arm mark

[00:39:02] And the kids freaking out like losing his mind

[00:39:05] Like I feel like it's kind of similar to that

[00:39:07] Like just like anything that you spend too much time doing

[00:39:11] Like that becomes like your routine

[00:39:14] And honestly

[00:39:16] It kind of becomes who you are

[00:39:18] Like we are what we do and consume all the time

[00:39:21] Right

[00:39:22] So if you're just constantly on it

[00:39:23] Like do you even know yourself

[00:39:24] If you're always looking at other people's lives

[00:39:26] Right

[00:39:27] And like so

[00:39:28] Or do you even know yourself

[00:39:30] If you're looking at yourself through

[00:39:32] Other people's eyes

[00:39:33] Or Snapchat or

[00:39:34] The filters

[00:39:35] Yeah exactly the filters

[00:39:37] That's a good point

[00:39:38] The angles the certain ways

[00:39:41] And I think that that hits a certain age range

[00:39:48] It does

[00:39:48] Than it does other people

[00:39:50] I think as younger people have a harder time with that

[00:39:53] Because we want that acceptance

[00:39:55] We want that like we're perfect

[00:39:57] A little bit of validation

[00:39:58] Yeah absolutely

[00:39:59] Because validation goes so far

[00:40:02] If it's authentic validation

[00:40:03] Right

[00:40:03] Like so not just saying it to say it

[00:40:05] Right

[00:40:05] Like a lot of folks say hey how are you good

[00:40:07] How are you just out of habit

[00:40:08] Right

[00:40:08] But are they actually good

[00:40:10] Is it authentic

[00:40:11] Yeah but I think that's also hard to

[00:40:13] Like define between the two

[00:40:16] You know and like or decipher

[00:40:18] There it is decipher between the two

[00:40:20] And figure out you know if it really is genuine

[00:40:22] Or if you really care

[00:40:24] Because there's a lot of times I think that I've also been in retail

[00:40:27] And stuff so long too

[00:40:28] That I'm so good at just having mindless conversation

[00:40:31] That I don't care

[00:40:33] Like you know like good you're good too cool

[00:40:35] You know me too brother

[00:40:36] You know the way you just move on

[00:40:38] You know yeah I just I don't care

[00:40:41] But I also feel like I get that way the older I get to

[00:40:44] I don't think I

[00:40:45] If you were having a conversation with 20 or 21 year old

[00:40:48] Me I don't think I would feel the same way

[00:40:50] Now as 25 year old me so

[00:40:53] We continue to grow yeah I can say this

[00:40:54] I mean I was an asshole when I was 21

[00:40:56] I just was like always trying to argue with people

[00:40:59] Everything was an argument

[00:41:00] I was a cocky little fuck

[00:41:01] And I was looking for it though

[00:41:02] Like you don't believe what I believe let's go

[00:41:05] It's like well what good is that

[00:41:06] Yeah

[00:41:07] Well it's you because I think it's you arguing with yourself

[00:41:11] You're like oh

[00:41:12] It's exactly what it is

[00:41:12] Yeah because you oh you don't believe me

[00:41:14] So maybe I shouldn't believe me

[00:41:15] Yeah let me put on this front and stand behind this thing

[00:41:17] I don't even know if I understand completely

[00:41:19] And argue about it for no reason

[00:41:21] That's basically what it was

[00:41:22] Yeah it's like it's like being too proud

[00:41:23] Well and I really don't like the filters

[00:41:26] Can I just kind of express

[00:41:27] Yeah let's talk about the filters

[00:41:28] How much I don't like filters

[00:41:30] And I honestly think that like Snapchat or Instagram

[00:41:34] Like they got like a default filter

[00:41:37] That they act like there's no filter

[00:41:39] But there's literally a filter

[00:41:40] And like mess with the eyes

[00:41:41] On their default

[00:41:42] Like it's so subtle that like you don't really see it

[00:41:46] You're smiling like you know exactly what you were talking about

[00:41:47] Well no I'm smiling because I'm over here

[00:41:50] Like I'm so pro filters

[00:41:51] Like every Snapchat that I sent before this podcast

[00:41:55] There was a filter on there

[00:41:56] And I have I've got make a bond

[00:41:58] I look great

[00:41:59] I don't need a filter on but

[00:42:01] There's just I don't know

[00:42:02] There's something about it

[00:42:03] That when you're doing that kind of

[00:42:06] Pictorial of what I think social media is

[00:42:10] You want to look perfect

[00:42:11] Like I don't care that

[00:42:13] Like you guys see me without a filter

[00:42:16] And you guys know that I like

[00:42:17] You know that I like just the same with the filter

[00:42:19] Like I don't care about that

[00:42:20] I care about that my Snapchat

[00:42:22] Or my whatever has that perfect look

[00:42:24] And that it's it's done right

[00:42:26] Like you were talking about my have a suit trip

[00:42:28] All of those have a suit trips all have filters on them

[00:42:31] And we and we all look the same

[00:42:32] Without the filters on them

[00:42:34] So why even do the filter in the first place

[00:42:36] That's a good question

[00:42:37] Because it does it enhances that little bit

[00:42:39] Where both of you

[00:42:41] You both have beautiful blue eyes

[00:42:43] Okay

[00:42:44] I have this one Snapchat filter that I use constantly all the time

[00:42:48] And it's literally just like that slightest enhancement

[00:42:51] Where in especially like you with your shirt and stuff right now

[00:42:54] It would just bring out that blue in your shirt

[00:42:56] To bring out that blue in your eyes

[00:42:58] So it's just that little enhancement, you know

[00:43:00] In a photo

[00:43:01] That I think that

[00:43:03] I'm real big on that like twinkle in your eye

[00:43:05] In person kind of thing

[00:43:06] Where you can see that when you're talking to me

[00:43:08] But you're not you're not talking to me

[00:43:10] When I'm Snapchatting you

[00:43:11] So I want you to feel that

[00:43:13] When I'm sending you that

[00:43:14] What about videos

[00:43:15] I mean you're on video right now without a filter

[00:43:17] So I guess that answers that but

[00:43:18] Yeah, but I think that's why I also spent two hours on my makeup

[00:43:21] Before I came here too

[00:43:22] So I think it's that built in filter too

[00:43:24] I don't I

[00:43:25] You know too I don't know

[00:43:27] I think that

[00:43:28] I know you were talking about that

[00:43:30] You feel that things are neutral and not gender and all of that

[00:43:33] I do think that that's different for

[00:43:35] Maybe I'll just speak on me as a woman

[00:43:38] I I couldn't

[00:43:40] Even as comfortable as I am with the two of you

[00:43:43] I could not show up here without

[00:43:45] Make a bond of

[00:43:46] Two-hour long outfit setup

[00:43:48] Like I I couldn't do that

[00:43:49] Well, that's just you like you know

[00:43:51] That's how you present yourself to the world

[00:43:52] You take care yourself

[00:43:53] If you want to go out and look your best

[00:43:54] There's nothing wrong with that

[00:43:55] Well, I think I think that's how I was raised too

[00:43:58] That you don't go anywhere

[00:43:59] Without a looking a certain type of way which

[00:44:02] She's gonna love that I talk about

[00:44:04] Because she watches your guys' podcast

[00:44:05] And she loves the two of you

[00:44:06] But my mom hates that I go out in public

[00:44:10] In sweatpants and stuff like that

[00:44:12] Because I don't care

[00:44:13] But at the same time when I'm in sweatpants and stuff

[00:44:15] I'm still matching

[00:44:16] Or I'm still like kind of coordinated in a way

[00:44:19] And I think both of my parents kind of

[00:44:21] Got that into me

[00:44:22] Where you do have to look a certain way in public

[00:44:24] Where I think with my kids

[00:44:26] I don't think I'm gonna do that

[00:44:27] I think that puts a lot of pressure on you

[00:44:29] To look a certain way

[00:44:30] Yeah, please be

[00:44:32] Please brush your hair

[00:44:33] Please be clean

[00:44:34] Be just the basic hygienics of yourself

[00:44:38] But don't feel like you have to put on

[00:44:42] Jeans and a t-shirt or something

[00:44:44] To go to the grocery store

[00:44:46] If you want to go to the grocery store

[00:44:47] In your sweats and a hoodie

[00:44:49] That's okay

[00:44:50] But yeah, please brush your hair

[00:44:52] You know all that things

[00:44:53] But I think that that just creates so much pressure

[00:44:57] But it goes back to everything that we just

[00:44:58] Got done talking about

[00:44:59] With social media and everything

[00:45:01] It's pressure to be one type of way

[00:45:04] Where's that pressure coming from?

[00:45:06] And is it truly a you thing

[00:45:08] Or is it an expectation that society has?

[00:45:11] Absolutely

[00:45:12] Yeah, because are you doing it for yourself

[00:45:13] Or your viewers, followers, your parents or whatever

[00:45:16] And oftentimes like we just alluded to

[00:45:18] Especially with social media

[00:45:19] Folks do it for the attention

[00:45:21] For the likes, for the clicks, for whatever

[00:45:23] And so are they doing it for themselves

[00:45:25] Kind of the same argument was happened

[00:45:26] About me at 21 arguing with people

[00:45:28] Was I doing it for like

[00:45:29] Did I believe what I was even arguing about?

[00:45:30] Was I conditioned into that?

[00:45:31] I don't know

[00:45:32] Yeah

[00:45:33] But okay so back to the filters

[00:45:36] If you're using filters

[00:45:37] Yeah

[00:45:38] Okay

[00:45:38] And then you look at yourself in the mirror

[00:45:41] And I'm not necessarily asking you

[00:45:43] It's like an in general question

[00:45:45] No, I know where you're going

[00:45:45] But like, you know, then does it

[00:45:49] Subconsciously like you feel like you don't look good enough

[00:45:52] When you look at yourself in the mirror

[00:45:53] Because you're looking at yourself through the filters all the time

[00:45:56] But like is that not an effect?

[00:45:58] I'm sure that that just depends on who you are

[00:46:01] As a person, I feel like that has to do with

[00:46:04] Insecurity levels

[00:46:05] I feel like

[00:46:07] I have said or I've had enough things said about me

[00:46:11] Where you can't really say anything more mean to me

[00:46:13] So if you want to say something

[00:46:15] When I don't have a filter on

[00:46:16] Like good for you

[00:46:17] Like I don't care

[00:46:19] Wait until you hear what I say about myself

[00:46:22] Myself?

[00:46:22] Yeah

[00:46:22] Well, you know wait until you hear what my siblings have said to me

[00:46:26] Or like, you know like

[00:46:27] You can't hurt me anymore than my siblings have

[00:46:29] Okay, that's the sibling love

[00:46:31] You can't do that

[00:46:32] See, that's the right mindset though

[00:46:34] Amen

[00:46:34] But I think

[00:46:35] That's Tom Brady Rose type of shit

[00:46:37] I just think

[00:46:38] I think that that's dependent on the person

[00:46:40] And how you feel about yourself

[00:46:41] I think that if you're already

[00:46:43] Not feeling good about yourself

[00:46:45] And then you choose to, you know, do that

[00:46:47] Then yeah, that's a harmful thing

[00:46:49] Because the filters make me feel extremely uncomfortable

[00:46:52] Yeah, the only time I've ever been on a filter is like

[00:46:54] When I'm in a picture with a female or whatever

[00:46:55] She's like, oh the filter's on

[00:46:56] Or they're like doing a video or something

[00:46:57] Well, they affect people differently

[00:46:59] And this is where I will go to be like

[00:47:01] I'm the first one to think that everybody is the same

[00:47:04] Because you strip all of us down

[00:47:06] We all look the same

[00:47:07] Okay, I think all of us are the same

[00:47:09] But there's a huge but there's so women-wise

[00:47:14] So snapchat is a great example

[00:47:16] Where those filters will hit men differently

[00:47:19] Then they will hit women

[00:47:20] That's interesting

[00:47:21] And it's a huge fact

[00:47:22] And I can all pull out my phone

[00:47:23] I can prove it right now, you know

[00:47:25] And so that that's where I feel like that can be hard

[00:47:28] I think that that also hits age different

[00:47:30] Again, my mom is a great example

[00:47:32] I take all of my photos with her on snapchat with filters

[00:47:36] And she does not look the same in those filters that I do

[00:47:40] And that, that sucks

[00:47:42] Because I'm like, I'm looking great

[00:47:43] But you look really weird

[00:47:45] And so that's where I'll go on

[00:47:46] Does she agree with you on that?

[00:47:47] Like is she like, oh I don't like the way I look in this

[00:47:49] Oh yeah, she, all the time is like

[00:47:51] Can you just take that off?

[00:47:52] Be good, but my mom is also a very secure person

[00:47:56] My mom knows that she's a beautiful human being

[00:47:58] My mom knows that she has a lot to offer

[00:48:00] My mom knows that she doesn't need a filter

[00:48:02] Because at 45, she looks 25

[00:48:05] Like my mom knows that

[00:48:07] And so that just, that goes to that

[00:48:10] And I think what I also know from knowing the two of you

[00:48:14] Is you should especially feel like that

[00:48:17] Because you're like, have social media anyway

[00:48:19] Get out of my face

[00:48:20] You're a handsome man

[00:48:21] You don't need a filter anyway, you know

[00:48:24] And so that

[00:48:25] Thanks, mama

[00:48:26] Gotcha, because you know he

[00:48:28] Y'all take care of yourselves

[00:48:30] And you do what you can

[00:48:31] To present yourself the way that you want to

[00:48:34] I feel like filters help you

[00:48:37] To present the way that you want to

[00:48:39] When you don't have to do that yourself

[00:48:41] And then that's an unfair game to play

[00:48:43] Because that's where it goes on in the mirror

[00:48:45] Oh, I'm not, I can put my

[00:48:48] Like I see that I have that

[00:48:49] And I can do it

[00:48:50] But why am I not putting that effort in?

[00:48:52] So then you go all, oh I'm not doing that for myself

[00:48:55] Well that's dumb

[00:48:56] Like that's not fair

[00:48:59] Yeah, it's all interesting isn't it?

[00:49:01] Kind of reminds me of like why

[00:49:02] Like sending our bloopers

[00:49:03] Or like when we fuck up on Happy Friday or something

[00:49:05] Or just being dumbasses

[00:49:07] Like when we're recording ourselves

[00:49:08] On the weekends or whatever

[00:49:09] And showing like real stuff

[00:49:10] Yeah

[00:49:10] I like that aspect of it

[00:49:11] I try to be just speaking for me personally

[00:49:14] As authentic and raw as I can

[00:49:15] On the show, off the show

[00:49:17] This is it

[00:49:17] Yeah

[00:49:18] Well shout out to Raw Talk though

[00:49:20] Because that's the coolest part about what you do

[00:49:24] Is that you are genuinely just sitting there like

[00:49:28] Hey this is what's up

[00:49:30] This is what's happening

[00:49:31] But that's where I was talking to you guys

[00:49:33] About the TikTokers that I've been following

[00:49:35] In their podcast that they're doing

[00:49:36] That's all they're doing

[00:49:38] They're just sitting down and being like

[00:49:39] Hey I'm done making this TikTok skit

[00:49:42] Can we just talk about what happened

[00:49:44] In the grocery store for a second

[00:49:47] That is so, like that's what I want to see

[00:49:50] Like because that's real

[00:49:52] That's honest

[00:49:53] Like unlike a year ago

[00:49:55] Where we had kind of more of a topic

[00:49:57] I was going on

[00:49:58] You know this is very like

[00:50:00] Hey it's three people that know each other

[00:50:02] And we're just Wednesday night

[00:50:04] Meeting up, having a good time

[00:50:06] You know I feel like that's

[00:50:08] That's the conversations that should be happening

[00:50:10] And that's the kind of way

[00:50:11] That people should be presenting it

[00:50:12] Well it's fun to talk about like layers of things

[00:50:15] Because then you can like

[00:50:17] Really get these different perspectives on it

[00:50:19] And it's and that's the thing

[00:50:20] About these type of conversations

[00:50:22] In the same room is

[00:50:23] It's okay for us to have different perspectives

[00:50:25] And none of us are like

[00:50:27] Really disliking each other over it

[00:50:29] Like it's more

[00:50:29] You almost can gain more respect

[00:50:31] When you open up your mind to

[00:50:33] Hearing what other people have to say

[00:50:35] Yeah

[00:50:36] Because you can be like

[00:50:37] Oh I didn't think about it like that

[00:50:39] I am a huge person

[00:50:41] For devil's advocacy for that

[00:50:43] Yeah perspective

[00:50:44] Because yeah

[00:50:45] Perspective is huge in my life

[00:50:47] But and I think I do it

[00:50:48] A lot more when I'm fighting with people

[00:50:51] My girlfriend is a great example

[00:50:52] Her and I will be in an argument

[00:50:54] And as much as I think I'm right

[00:50:56] Or I like you know feel valid in myself

[00:50:58] I'm over here like okay wait

[00:51:00] How was she thinking about that

[00:51:01] How does she feel

[00:51:02] Oh that's probably how she took that

[00:51:04] Okay let's take a step back

[00:51:06] And let's re-navigate

[00:51:07] Is that in the moment or is that like after?

[00:51:09] I both

[00:51:10] I'm really good at doing that

[00:51:12] In the moment

[00:51:14] But I think a lot of it comes more after

[00:51:16] And I think that's also with everybody too

[00:51:18] I'm really good at

[00:51:19] Still being able to be like

[00:51:20] Hey I see what you're doing

[00:51:23] But it's that but

[00:51:24] But is such a dangerous word

[00:51:27] When you're talking about feelings and stuff

[00:51:29] I know exactly what you mean

[00:51:30] Yeah because you could be like

[00:51:31] Hey Erin I don't like the way you came at me earlier

[00:51:33] And I could be like oh my gosh Kevin

[00:51:34] I'm so sorry that I did that to you

[00:51:36] But this is why I did that

[00:51:38] It doesn't matter the but why I did that

[00:51:41] Yeah no yeah absolutely

[00:51:42] It matters that I made you feel some type of way

[00:51:44] And I think that that's not something

[00:51:47] That's practiced enough

[00:51:49] I think all of us know that

[00:51:50] I just don't think it's actually practiced enough

[00:51:52] That's a good point yeah

[00:51:53] Because I think everybody always wants to

[00:51:54] Naturally defend their position on whatever it is

[00:51:57] Whether you're in the wrong or not

[00:51:58] And someone calls you out on it

[00:51:59] It's like yeah I fucked up there

[00:52:00] But you know I felt like this at the time

[00:52:03] There's always that justification for why it happened

[00:52:06] I was guilty for that today

[00:52:07] I've done it, make time

[00:52:08] I was trying to throw some butts out there

[00:52:09] For some work stuff

[00:52:10] Where honestly like I

[00:52:13] Less could have been more in what I said

[00:52:14] And I probably said too much in a chat

[00:52:17] And then I was like but

[00:52:18] But that's just an excuse

[00:52:20] And honestly I just need to tighten up and do it better

[00:52:23] Well, and excuses are they're just

[00:52:24] They're so dangerous

[00:52:25] They hurt you

[00:52:26] They and I feel like also this day and age

[00:52:31] Is so scared to be honest

[00:52:32] So I had said to you earlier

[00:52:34] I don't want your PC answers

[00:52:36] I don't want PC

[00:52:37] I want honesty

[00:52:38] I'm so sorry if our honesty hurts you

[00:52:41] Because it's not PC

[00:52:42] But that's not what honesty is

[00:52:44] And I'm not that you know

[00:52:47] Red blooded American

[00:52:48] But you know that was I feel like the point of America

[00:52:53] Was that you could go in and say what you mean

[00:52:56] And live by that

[00:52:58] And that is not a thing anymore

[00:53:00] You have to be so careful

[00:53:02] And I'm in an interracial relationship

[00:53:04] I'm gay

[00:53:05] Like I'm all of the topics of why people think

[00:53:08] They have to be PC

[00:53:09] And I'm like stop

[00:53:11] Ew no

[00:53:12] Like it's okay

[00:53:13] Like you don't

[00:53:15] That's refreshing

[00:53:15] We need more of it

[00:53:16] Yeah

[00:53:17] But and I feel like again age

[00:53:20] My age group

[00:53:20] How many people of my age do I feel like

[00:53:23] I know that you know don't care about the PC thing

[00:53:25] I feel like nobody

[00:53:27] Other than my friend group thankfully

[00:53:29] Because that's all why we're all friends

[00:53:30] But why

[00:53:32] Everybody is going to get their feelings hurt

[00:53:34] No matter what

[00:53:35] You hurt your own feelings

[00:53:36] You hurt somebody else's feelings

[00:53:37] Like it doesn't

[00:53:38] It's not that it doesn't matter

[00:53:40] But why are you

[00:53:42] Why are you making that your whole life

[00:53:44] Well being offended is subjective too

[00:53:46] Right

[00:53:46] Yeah

[00:53:46] Because like what offends you might not offend me

[00:53:48] And vice versa or whatever

[00:53:49] Absolutely

[00:53:50] And people like try to throw a blanket over all of it

[00:53:52] Like this is all offensive over here

[00:53:54] Get rid of it

[00:53:54] Throw it behind the barn barrier

[00:53:56] It's like well no not necessarily

[00:53:58] Like you're picking and choosing

[00:53:59] And kind of cherry picking through what

[00:54:01] You can and can't say

[00:54:02] And what's offensive of what isn't

[00:54:04] What's a joke and what's real

[00:54:05] Like everything everything is taken exactly at face value

[00:54:07] Like the Google voice is reading it

[00:54:09] With no with no context

[00:54:10] With no voice inflections

[00:54:11] It's just black and white

[00:54:13] And it was and you know I'm very young

[00:54:15] And I'll own that

[00:54:16] But I feel like I'm even old enough to recognize

[00:54:19] That it didn't used to be like that

[00:54:20] I feel like you could say things

[00:54:23] And there were things that could get away

[00:54:25] But to play devil's advocacy

[00:54:28] There's a lot of older movies that I super love

[00:54:30] That I watch nowadays

[00:54:31] That I'm like oh

[00:54:33] That wouldn't be around now

[00:54:34] I might say a little sorry

[00:54:35] Well and there's a part of me that feels like

[00:54:37] It shouldn't have been

[00:54:38] Like there's I can play that like

[00:54:40] Ooh maybe we shouldn't have

[00:54:41] That one went too far

[00:54:42] Yeah and then

[00:54:43] And society had its eras though too

[00:54:46] Like absolutely

[00:54:47] You know and like different rights

[00:54:49] And there's places in the world where

[00:54:51] You know there's still not the amount of rights

[00:54:53] That we have in the United States

[00:54:55] And the thing okay so this is the not PC part

[00:54:58] Is like people getting all offended about opinions

[00:55:01] In my opinion is weak

[00:55:03] Like if you're upset that somebody else

[00:55:05] Has a different opinion

[00:55:07] And then you're gonna sit here

[00:55:08] And focus your energy and time

[00:55:09] Being upset doing research to why this upset

[00:55:12] You and then you keep watching stuff that's

[00:55:14] Like you're perpetuating like this drama

[00:55:16] And people do it for a bunch of different reasons

[00:55:19] You know so it's not one particular crowd

[00:55:22] But like you should be definitive enough

[00:55:26] As an individual and confident enough

[00:55:28] As an individual where you could put down

[00:55:31] Social media for a month and feel fine

[00:55:34] You could sit in a room quietly

[00:55:36] For five minutes without music or anything

[00:55:38] And be happy with who you are with your thoughts

[00:55:42] And so it's just where is the focus going

[00:55:44] And I believe that there is

[00:55:50] Like I talk about propaganda and the fear mongering

[00:55:52] And all this type of stuff all the time

[00:55:53] But I do believe that it makes our nation weaker

[00:55:58] America weaker as a nation

[00:56:00] When we are divided over these civil issues

[00:56:03] That really are who's pushing these issues

[00:56:06] Is it really our trans people

[00:56:08] Really pushing all the trans issues

[00:56:09] When there's like a small percentage of people

[00:56:11] Or is it like these other areas that are trying to push this

[00:56:14] And make it look like there's this division

[00:56:16] When really that division doesn't exist

[00:56:18] It might in some people but not in the big way

[00:56:21] That they make it appear to be

[00:56:23] So I know I'm kind of going down a rabbit hole rant there

[00:56:26] No but that's-

[00:56:26] But there's like layers to like how I think about

[00:56:29] Like-

[00:56:29] That's exactly how I feel is that

[00:56:32] Other people that want to push their own agenda

[00:56:35] Making their opinion that that's wrong

[00:56:38] They're gonna push and be like

[00:56:40] Oh well those people are doing A, B, C and D

[00:56:42] When those people did

[00:56:42] So I love that you said that

[00:56:45] Because I have never heard anybody else say that

[00:56:48] So I'm so glad that you said that

[00:56:49] Because I agree with that fullheartedly

[00:56:51] That it's made up

[00:56:54] It's you're doing it on purpose

[00:56:56] It's-

[00:56:57] And what happened to-

[00:57:00] What happened to when all of that was happening

[00:57:02] And it wasn't like that

[00:57:03] And we were all doing just fine

[00:57:04] Yeah that's exactly it

[00:57:05] Because now it's almost like almost

[00:57:07] Cultish or pick a side

[00:57:08] And you have to stick behind it

[00:57:09] You can't veer from it

[00:57:10] If you don't believe exactly this

[00:57:12] Then you're not a part of this side anymore

[00:57:13] It's too dividing

[00:57:14] It's too polarizing

[00:57:16] There's too much anger

[00:57:17] There's not enough conversations

[00:57:18] Well then you get looped into all these other things like

[00:57:21] You know personal and I won't like name names here

[00:57:24] But I didn't want to take any more COVID-19 vaccinations

[00:57:28] Because I feel like it was a waste of time

[00:57:29] It was fear mongered

[00:57:30] And like they were just profiting off these fucking swabs and shit

[00:57:34] And like you could never get the same result

[00:57:36] Like you had to do it multiple times to like

[00:57:38] So like why am I-

[00:57:39] They're so expensive

[00:57:40] But I'm like I don't want to do that

[00:57:41] And then I don't like Trump as a person

[00:57:43] And this and that

[00:57:44] But then I get looped in

[00:57:45] Though you must be a Trump supporter

[00:57:46] Then if you don't want to do that kind of stuff

[00:57:48] It's like wait

[00:57:49] Because I have an opinion about something else

[00:57:51] Then all of a sudden

[00:57:51] You're grouping me in

[00:57:53] Yeah even though that's nowhere close to where I stand

[00:57:56] And so it's funny how people like

[00:57:58] Try to segregate like

[00:58:00] How they think people's opinions are

[00:58:03] Based off of one opinion

[00:58:04] If you have one opinion

[00:58:06] Then you must have these other aligning opinions

[00:58:08] And like that's not always true

[00:58:09] Yeah

[00:58:10] No I-

[00:58:11] I'm in that box all the time

[00:58:12] People just look at me as a NASCAR fan

[00:58:13] Cowie Blue

[00:58:14] It's like oh this guy must think this way

[00:58:15] And act that way

[00:58:16] Oh goodness no

[00:58:18] That's that way for a long time

[00:58:19] Being the-

[00:58:20] Being a proud member of all of the things

[00:58:23] That people probably look at you and think you stand against

[00:58:26] No sir

[00:58:27] One of the biggest supporters I have in my entire life

[00:58:30] No no no

[00:58:32] No no no

[00:58:32] Cool as being in the burrito

[00:58:34] That's for sure for you sir

[00:58:36] Cool as being the previous

[00:58:37] I've heard of them before

[00:58:38] Shout out to my sister Chris for that one

[00:58:40] That's it I might have to use that one

[00:58:42] Oh please do I use it all the time

[00:58:44] No yeah no you are

[00:58:45] And I think but that's also outward opinion

[00:58:48] Or like outward appearance

[00:58:49] Sorry you know and

[00:58:50] Ugh I hate that I hate that

[00:58:52] I just wish people could be who they were

[00:58:54] People minded their business

[00:58:56] And it was just that

[00:58:58] But that's never gonna be the case

[00:59:00] But I'm so happy that this is what this podcast

[00:59:03] Is turning into because I wanted this

[00:59:04] For my second time around

[00:59:06] It was just like a hot take thing

[00:59:07] No great it's all great content

[00:59:09] And it's all about important things that affect everybody

[00:59:13] Daily

[00:59:14] This is the conversation

[00:59:15] I mean that's what it is

[00:59:16] And like you alluded to the

[00:59:18] It's almost nostalgic to listen to real conversations

[00:59:21] Because everything's so scripted fake

[00:59:22] Planned

[00:59:23] Like you guys seen these reels and these videos that come up

[00:59:25] They're like 18 minutes long

[00:59:27] And they're designed to make you watch them for 18 minutes

[00:59:29] And it's something like as simple as somebody jumping off a roof

[00:59:31] Into a pool or something

[00:59:32] Yeah

[00:59:32] And like it's you can tell it's staged

[00:59:34] It's all acting

[00:59:35] It's horrible

[00:59:35] It's so much lead up

[00:59:36] And I'll just roll to the end and be like that was a

[00:59:38] Anyone that sat through that one place

[00:59:39] A royal waste of time

[00:59:40] It's incredible

[00:59:41] And I guess you can call that clickbait

[00:59:43] But you know they're trying to push these videos off

[00:59:46] And they just they make me cringe almost like AI does for you

[00:59:48] Yeah

[00:59:48] Yeah

[00:59:49] One that one that

[00:59:50] We haven't gotten into that yet

[00:59:51] Yeah I mean

[00:59:52] Like you're not a fan of the AI

[00:59:54] I mean look we could

[00:59:55] But there is the one video that

[00:59:57] That was like that where they had all these matches

[00:59:59] That they were gonna light

[01:00:00] I've seen that one

[01:00:01] And then they just like didn't light it

[01:00:03] For like they like kept relighting matches

[01:00:06] To make it look like they were about to light the

[01:00:08] And they never do

[01:00:08] Thing of match

[01:00:10] And it's just like y'all are

[01:00:11] Fucking wasting my time

[01:00:12] See in TikTok is really the only platform

[01:00:15] That I'll sit there and like scroll through content

[01:00:17] Like that

[01:00:17] And I'm the first one that I'm reporting your

[01:00:20] Video for being uneducational on anything

[01:00:24] Because why

[01:00:25] Because also what I'm not gonna do

[01:00:27] Is being the first one to support that

[01:00:29] TikTok has created a lot of

[01:00:33] You know financial support for a lot of different people and jobs

[01:00:36] And blah blah blah blah blah

[01:00:37] Okay

[01:00:38] If you're doing stuff like that

[01:00:40] I'm not gonna give you that creator content

[01:00:42] That we are creator fun that we were talking about

[01:00:44] You know I'm not gonna give you that

[01:00:46] And so that's not fair

[01:00:48] So I'm the first one to do that

[01:00:49] And you know whether right or wrong

[01:00:51] No

[01:00:52] Get out

[01:00:52] No no no no no no

[01:00:53] And why are you using that

[01:00:55] When I could be having teachers

[01:00:57] Telling me beautiful facts that I need to know about my career later on

[01:01:01] So you basically report it as like this is useless

[01:01:04] For us

[01:01:05] Yeah because yeah what's the point and you're not

[01:01:07] And then what happens though

[01:01:08] Well I

[01:01:08] Truth be told I have no idea

[01:01:10] Because once you hit that report

[01:01:12] And you give your thing you have no idea

[01:01:14] Okay

[01:01:14] I'm just curious what happens next

[01:01:15] Oh yeah no have no idea

[01:01:16] You probably don't see it anymore on your feed

[01:01:18] Yeah I'm yeah

[01:01:19] And I mean there has been a couple ones

[01:01:21] Like there is a um

[01:01:22] There's a certain very famous person

[01:01:25] That I feel like no matter how much

[01:01:27] I say not interested or a poor or whatever

[01:01:30] Oh my god

[01:01:31] Deal with that all the time

[01:01:32] Yeah

[01:01:32] I've seen it on Instagram too

[01:01:33] Like have you ever tried to unfollow

[01:01:35] Because we got like all these bots on there at one point

[01:01:37] And we were trying to go through and clean that up

[01:01:39] And like eventually it got to the point where it was like

[01:01:41] You've reached the limit for who you can unfollow for the day

[01:01:44] Like it

[01:01:44] I forgot about that

[01:01:45] They were micromanaging how we controlled who was following us

[01:01:49] And then you still had to go through the rigmarole of when you did hit on file

[01:01:52] It's like well why

[01:01:53] You know content's irrelevant

[01:01:54] Don't want to see it anymore

[01:01:55] I just don't like it

[01:01:56] I'm not

[01:01:56] Yeah so

[01:01:57] It's a medicine

[01:01:57] So sorry that you guys went through that

[01:01:59] It's awful

[01:02:00] It was ridiculous

[01:02:02] Because it was really quick and easy to unfollow somebody

[01:02:06] Hit the button

[01:02:06] It was like a two click unfollow

[01:02:08] And then I did this for like hours for like a week

[01:02:11] And then they changed it to like a two to three step verification

[01:02:15] That I wanted to unfollow

[01:02:16] So then they made it more difficult to unfollow

[01:02:18] I forgot that even happened

[01:02:19] Oh yeah I remember that

[01:02:20] Why are they always trying to suck away all of our time and shit

[01:02:23] Yeah because you know

[01:02:24] They like they like trying to take it

[01:02:26] I think that they're hoping that maybe if we just spend all the time on the internet

[01:02:30] That we stop hating each other

[01:02:31] And then I just feel like all the time we spend on the internet makes us hate each other more

[01:02:35] So I'm gonna help transition off of the internet topic

[01:02:39] I came here for another thing

[01:02:41] What did you guys want to be when you grow up

[01:02:44] Because I am getting ready to fulfill my childhood dream

[01:02:47] And I just really want to know what you guys wanted to be when you grow up

[01:02:50] A lot of people already know this about me

[01:02:52] I wanted to be a meteorologist

[01:02:53] Really?

[01:02:54] I loved when kids were watching Nickelodeon

[01:02:56] I was watching the weather channel

[01:02:57] Okay

[01:02:57] And I wanted to be that guy at Point at Things

[01:02:59] I was the high school meteorologist

[01:03:01] Shout out Kingswood Regional

[01:03:02] Y'all remember you got the report from me

[01:03:05] Who got the weather report

[01:03:06] And I still do it

[01:03:06] I'm the you know happy Friday

[01:03:08] Chief meteorologist over there

[01:03:10] And I ended up being on TV

[01:03:11] So it ended up working out

[01:03:12] Cool

[01:03:14] Yeah

[01:03:14] I mean the youngest

[01:03:17] I'm gonna just say I wanted to be a rapper

[01:03:19] Oh I pegged that from you man

[01:03:21] I wanted to rap

[01:03:22] And like I feel like I do have lyrical talent

[01:03:26] I would agree with that

[01:03:27] But I don't exploit it right now

[01:03:29] And the podcasting does kind of scratch that same itch

[01:03:32] Of being able to deliver a message

[01:03:36] To help people

[01:03:36] That's like why I wanted to make music when I was a kid

[01:03:39] But Tupac was a huge inspiration

[01:03:41] I have this storytelling

[01:03:43] Storytelling that he was able to do

[01:03:45] So that's really what I wanted to do

[01:03:48] And I've kind of fulfilled my dream a little bit

[01:03:51] Because you know when you're talking

[01:03:52] You're like hey yeah it's a rap about it

[01:03:54] And so that's like we're kind of rapping about stuff right now

[01:03:57] Oh I loved that

[01:03:58] That's what I wanted to be

[01:03:59] So as a teacher for you then

[01:04:01] Yeah just working with kids in general

[01:04:03] Before I get into that

[01:04:04] I think it's so cool to be sitting before two people

[01:04:08] That basically got to do that

[01:04:09] So congratulations to both of you

[01:04:11] I think that's so neat

[01:04:13] No so working with kids is basically

[01:04:15] So no all right let's be honest here

[01:04:17] Because I have a lot of people

[01:04:19] That I make sure follow the both of you

[01:04:21] So they will be seeing this

[01:04:23] So no my first two goals were to be a marine biologist

[01:04:27] And a tattoo artist

[01:04:28] I think I have fulfilled the tattoo artist part

[01:04:31] By at least getting tatted a bunch

[01:04:33] And I have a couple of like my own art on me

[01:04:36] So like you know that's fine

[01:04:39] But I think the kid thing happened

[01:04:42] When I started going through my own trauma

[01:04:44] As a kid and I realized that my siblings

[01:04:49] Were kind of the only reason

[01:04:51] I got through a lot of things

[01:04:52] So I wanted to be that person for kids

[01:04:56] I wanted to be what my siblings were

[01:04:59] For me growing up

[01:05:01] And so now I'm getting to

[01:05:04] I was working at a daycare

[01:05:07] For 10 years on and off

[01:05:08] Like I would go do other things

[01:05:10] But I would immediately go back

[01:05:12] And then I would be there for a couple years

[01:05:13] And I just recently ended that

[01:05:16] And now I'm continuing my journey

[01:05:18] On going to school and being a nanny

[01:05:19] So I'm kind of just like keeping that going

[01:05:21] But my ultimate goal is to own a full compound

[01:05:26] Where I have like a school

[01:05:28] And I have like a live in boarding center

[01:05:30] And like a farm and a garden and stuff

[01:05:33] But I want those families to be specifically at risk

[01:05:37] I want homeless families

[01:05:38] I want families of addiction and abuse

[01:05:41] And I want families that they can't get child care

[01:05:45] They can't get that support

[01:05:46] Where they feel like they have to give up their child

[01:05:49] To foster care

[01:05:50] I want them to be able to sign over guardianship to me

[01:05:54] Until me and the appropriate lawmakers

[01:05:57] Or however that's supposed to work appropriately

[01:06:00] Can get your child back

[01:06:01] Instead of going through really the law about it

[01:06:04] Because that's so hard

[01:06:05] I feel like parents that end up losing their child

[01:06:09] Because of addiction

[01:06:10] Once they've gotten clean

[01:06:12] And put in so much work to get clean

[01:06:15] They can't get their kids back

[01:06:17] And that's all their kids want

[01:06:19] I am a child of addiction

[01:06:20] And all I want is that parent to be out of addiction

[01:06:25] And you know, that's what that kid wants

[01:06:28] So why would you take that away from them?

[01:06:29] And that's I want to create more of a safe space

[01:06:32] I also want a space where kids can openly talk about that

[01:06:36] Come into school that day and be like

[01:06:37] Hey, this is what happened at my house last night

[01:06:40] And then that specific teacher is like

[01:06:42] Oh my gosh, you know when I was eight

[01:06:44] This happened to me

[01:06:45] Let me help you

[01:06:46] You want to go color in the corner with me

[01:06:48] And then we can start on our reading

[01:06:50] You know that is

[01:06:52] It's huge for me

[01:06:53] And I have an aunt who had a monastery school for

[01:06:58] 40 years

[01:06:59] Something like that in Texas

[01:07:01] And so she's a huge person in child care

[01:07:04] And so I had a whole like two hour meeting with her

[01:07:06] Like hey, this is my vision board

[01:07:09] This is what I think would be really cool

[01:07:10] And she's like oh, that's a stellar idea

[01:07:12] Like you're on it, kid

[01:07:14] Like I'm so proud of you

[01:07:15] Like keep going

[01:07:17] And I think that the more and more that I get older

[01:07:19] And the more and more that I get that opportunity

[01:07:22] To be around kids and around families

[01:07:23] That are in certain situations like that

[01:07:26] I'm like here, you have support

[01:07:28] You have love

[01:07:30] It's not the end of the road

[01:07:31] It's gonna get better

[01:07:32] And that's not only important for the child to know

[01:07:35] But I think that's important for the family

[01:07:37] And the parent to know

[01:07:39] That you being a parent with an addiction

[01:07:44] Does not make you less of a parent

[01:07:46] You are still an amazing mom

[01:07:49] You are still an amazing dad

[01:07:50] No matter if you have an addiction

[01:07:52] Because I know truly in the bottom of your heart

[01:07:55] That you put your kids first and you try your hardest

[01:07:58] And I think that that's not said enough

[01:07:59] To parents with addiction

[01:08:01] And I would love, love, love to be

[01:08:04] That space that not only gave your kid

[01:08:06] The validation of feeling like you

[01:08:09] Did something in the house

[01:08:10] That made them feel some kind of way with your addiction

[01:08:12] But then coming to you and being like, hey

[01:08:15] I get it man

[01:08:16] That's hard

[01:08:18] I'm so sorry that happened to you as well

[01:08:20] I think it's important to have a safe space for both people

[01:08:23] That's a perspective I haven't heard too often

[01:08:26] From the child with an addicted parent

[01:08:29] And how that is

[01:08:31] And so definitely an important mission

[01:08:34] All these kind of goals

[01:08:36] Like there's always little steps

[01:08:37] What are you working on right now to kind of move toward that?

[01:08:41] So I think basically it mainly is my educational standpoint

[01:08:45] I'm in college right now to get my early childhood education degree

[01:08:50] And all of that just to kind of be able to actually like legally

[01:08:54] Be able to you know run a center or anything like that

[01:08:57] Like counseling you have to get into I'm sure first and like

[01:09:00] Yeah

[01:09:00] Because you can't just jump all the way in

[01:09:03] Like there has to be layers to getting involved

[01:09:05] Yeah so a lot of it really does come from just like basic education

[01:09:09] Unfortunately which I kind of hate truthfully

[01:09:13] That you can have somebody that just does basic education

[01:09:17] And then goes into at-risk populations like that

[01:09:20] I don't particularly love that that's what you can do

[01:09:23] But that really is what you can do

[01:09:26] I think that people like me who grew up like that

[01:09:30] Create a greater value in that kind of field

[01:09:34] Because we can come in and do the same thing that those teachers are doing

[01:09:38] But actually create a perspective that those other teachers didn't have

[01:09:43] But I think that's that's also the difference between people that are going into straight like education

[01:09:48] So like K through 12 compared to people who

[01:09:52] Like me want to create a center or something like that

[01:09:54] Like that's completely different

[01:09:57] And so for me personally it's just furthering my education

[01:10:00] Because I am still so young and that's just can just requirements you have to have

[01:10:05] And then just like continuous just being honest about my own personal experience

[01:10:12] I think I think I was so scared to tell people that this is what happened to me as a kid because of addiction or

[01:10:20] This is what me and my siblings had to go through

[01:10:23] Or this is the way that I look at things now because of what I saw

[01:10:26] Like I think I was so scared to be honest about that

[01:10:29] And I'm like why?

[01:10:30] Because I wouldn't be the person that I am without all of that and not to toot my own horn

[01:10:35] But I am extremely proud of the person that you guys have sitting in front of you right now

[01:10:40] Because thank you because there's no there's no way that I would be that person without all that trauma

[01:10:46] I hate that I went through all that but

[01:10:49] I wouldn't be who I am and

[01:10:51] I have a lot of families that come to me and be like you you helped my kid in a way that

[01:10:55] I didn't think that I could touch my kid in I'll sit here and cry on your podcast

[01:11:00] So I won't go too far there, but yeah, it's cool. That's incredible. Thanks for sharing that

[01:11:05] You're kind of you know now going through all that and becoming the person you are now we are now fulfilling your purpose

[01:11:10] But going towards this compound. I like this idea the compound with the garden and maybe some farming and some education

[01:11:15] And a safe place. That's not really something I've ever heard of and I think that's going to be tremendously successful

[01:11:20] Yeah, I think it's I think it's fun to think about somewhere where

[01:11:25] Everybody knows that they're safe and everybody knows that it doesn't matter if it's just for the day for a school program

[01:11:32] Like, you know regular school or it's hey my like this kid needs somewhere to go like I think that

[01:11:38] Why like why wouldn't you think about an all-around place like that?

[01:11:42] I think we have so many like resorts

[01:11:44] You have so many places that you I'm you're telling me that I can go skydive in the middle of my hotel

[01:11:49] but

[01:11:50] There's not a childcare center that a kid can go get safe education then go to a safe bed at night

[01:11:56] That's crazy to me. You know that is it's a good mission. I support it. Thank you

[01:12:00] Yeah, and uh awesome

[01:12:02] With the because this is a public platform

[01:12:05] And when you say things on the pod like you're held accountable like there's like the sense of accountability

[01:12:10] And and some of that saved me being accountable on the pot

[01:12:13] Oh, it's a it takes courage to come on and say

[01:12:16] Like the things that you're the most insecure about and then you put it out there

[01:12:20] And honestly like it's good to normalize it because

[01:12:23] Everybody is living like a fucked up life to a certain extent like this is not an easy breezy

[01:12:29] Existence and and the more that we can you know face that and like recognize that it's not always good

[01:12:35] Then the more that we can recognize the parts that are good, you know, so

[01:12:39] I I like agree as far as my trauma like coming out of like the uh,

[01:12:44] You know addiction stuff like I feel like that made me a better person

[01:12:47] Who I am today, you know, and so it's like I would never take that back

[01:12:51] Or I'd never regret it because you know

[01:12:53] It's part of who I am and we have to acknowledge that type of stuff and own it

[01:12:56] And I give you props for coming on here and owning it and acknowledging that stuff and putting it out there

[01:13:02] I use your guys's podcast as a safe space. I learned last year that I got to get a law off of my chest

[01:13:08] Nice

[01:13:08] And I got to and it is it's that public part of it on being loud and proud about

[01:13:14] I don't this is what I have to say you really if you want to disagree with me, please all beans, but

[01:13:19] I don't care

[01:13:21] And I think that that's such an important space to have and

[01:13:24] You can be insecure and you're allowed to be upset and you're allowed to be all these things, but

[01:13:29] You know

[01:13:30] Be be you in it and I think that you to create such a good space for people to do that and to be able to

[01:13:36] To just share who they are here and so it's easy to do on this couch to sit here in this blanket and be like, okay

[01:13:42] So i'm just going to talk about my problems and I've been waiting a year

[01:13:46] It's exactly like therapy. That's how I treated it for the last five years for me

[01:13:50] Yeah, no and it's it's it's beautiful to be able to do that

[01:13:53] But it's also beautiful to live in an age of day because this wasn't like that

[01:13:58] I mean even five years ago even 10 years ago

[01:14:00] That wasn't a thing where you could honestly just sit there and be like, hey

[01:14:04] This is who we are, you know, this is just what it is and we're going to do it and that that's really cool and really important and it's very

[01:14:12] healing to

[01:14:14] Have somebody like me who has so much

[01:14:17] Heavy things going on but to be able to come here and talk to two people that I love dearly just about

[01:14:23] Silly things like social media and stuff like that like that's such a cool thing to be able to do

[01:14:28] Yeah, I think it's serious at times, you know, it's all about not taking life too seriously

[01:14:32] But be serious when we need to

[01:14:34] No, it's fun and it's awesome that I've seen how you how you grew. You're looking great

[01:14:38] Thank you, you know and we're excited for all your momentum

[01:14:42] And you're a great conversationalist as well

[01:14:44] Makes our job easy. You might just and I'm not going to spill any beans

[01:14:47] We're talking a lot about beans on this episode, but you have the coolest bean in the burrito

[01:14:50] I think I think you are the coolest bean in the burrito. Thank you

[01:14:54] You have a creator gene and you I could sense it. Oh, yeah, you got that in there

[01:14:58] no, it's like it's a goal man and I mean like um

[01:15:00] I'm I'll spill it right now. I'm trying to work more with these men

[01:15:04] Um, no, I mean what you guys do and I mean truthfully like even the creator part of what I want to do

[01:15:11] I would just love to do more things with you too

[01:15:13] I mean the perspective that you to bring to my life personally is so helpful as men as older than me

[01:15:21] As different walks of life of me

[01:15:23] It helps me so much to go through things and especially having such a family bond with one person

[01:15:30] And just like a starting bond with one person, you know, it's it's so helpful

[01:15:35] So I greatly value my time here because you two are very

[01:15:40] Very monumental people and I hope that the rest of people that listen to your podcast feel like that

[01:15:45] Thank you. That's a pretty powerful words right there much appreciated everyone could be monumental though

[01:15:50] That's right. That's the thing if they choose to be yeah, you have to like and honestly

[01:15:55] I'm a heterosexual man, but it feels good sometimes just to be fucking fabulous

[01:16:00] I know that you know and I tell you what the definition of fucking fabulous is the two of you

[01:16:06] So that's uh, that's full sand right there

[01:16:09] Well, and it's the cowboy boots the backwards hat and the race gear for me and then just the absolute

[01:16:15] Fucking blue-eyed fucking businessman casual fail

[01:16:20] I had to go into the office there is something and I tried to go opposite of last year

[01:16:25] I tried to go light and everything because I was more like biker last year

[01:16:29] So i'm like no, i'm loving this like not only appearance wise are we all perfect?

[01:16:34] The conversational eyes were all perfect and I just i'm not going over today. Y'all should be proud of me

[01:16:40] Not going over today

[01:16:42] But no, no last time we went over a bunch of epic

[01:16:46] Conversations, but I also talked to you guys for like an hour and a half

[01:16:50] Last time well, we're pretty much there again. There's there's technically no over on the show

[01:16:54] I mean we we try to shoot for like an hour

[01:16:57] Around there that way everyone doesn't feel like oh why'd that person get longer time than me?

[01:17:00] Well and all the juice is at the end always like it's always like you know the beginning it like starts going and then

[01:17:07] It's true by the end it's like starts getting really juicy because people get comfortable at that point

[01:17:11] At the I mean you were ready to go from day one, of course

[01:17:14] You're charming the baby like i'm ready to get back on the pod

[01:17:16] Give me a second we had an opening

[01:17:17] I was like we gotta get her gotta get Erin back on and it almost came right on the one year anniversary

[01:17:21] Almost and and i'm proud of that too, man. I'm over here like listen guys

[01:17:25] You're gonna have to see me every may for until this podcast is done because now I feel like it's a tradition

[01:17:31] Yes, definitely on discussion but you're gonna be seeing us well before then we have things to discuss

[01:17:36] Good, I love that

[01:17:37] Yeah, we're gonna have this discussion

[01:17:39] Well, I just thank everybody for listening to me for a second time because it's not like I have anything important to say

[01:17:45] So the fact that y'all are listening is just a good it's relevant and we're gonna share all the social media down below

[01:17:52] Yep

[01:17:52] Anything that is new from last year or are we good with the same?

[01:17:56] No, so I guess the only thing that's different is i'm I don't do only fans anymore which all out like a 30

[01:18:03] Second thing on that is I have so much respect for people that can hold on that

[01:18:08] That was the hardest thing i've ever done really

[01:18:10] I I made a good little amount of money like i'm proud of myself

[01:18:15] The hardest thing i've ever done. I will not I want to do it again someday

[01:18:19] But it's gonna have to be where I've got free time like that. That is

[01:18:23] A big commitment, that's what I heard

[01:18:24] Yeah, but other than that no

[01:18:26] I'm like that's the only thing that's really kind of new on my social media wise, but yeah

[01:18:32] We'll keep it simple. We'll put those down in the show notes and we'll see you soon

[01:18:35] But on dcpc next may 2025 that's our team if it went as quick as it did this time

[01:18:40] It's going to go even quicker next so looking forward to see you guys next May

[01:18:44] Much love. Thank you so much for being an epic person awesome guest and open

[01:18:49] To talking about your emotions and vulnerability everybody tuning in definitely check out

[01:18:54] Everything we got going on and everything erin has going on as well. You know the motto over here

[01:18:59] We'll see you on happy friday tomorrow folks and be good to yourselves be the coolest bean in the burrito

[01:19:04] Always you deserve it