This week, we get back to the basics of where this show started, with Kev and Art having a conversation.
Its nice to get a solo episode, so we can open up and talk about more personal subjects. From maintaining creativity and muse, to our journeys overcoming our demons, this episode is packed with meaningful subjects.
Wishing everyone a Happy Thanksgiving and love in your hearts!
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[00:00:00] We will have this discussion. Discussion? What discussion? This is a discussion... Combustion! Coming to you from Denver, Colorado, this is Discussion Combustion Podcast. Here we are, we're good now, David Batstone, and Arthur Rawe We're just gonna bring it in like this. It's been a while since we've done one of these. It's the holidays, so we usually have Jamie Rorick on around the holidays. Right? He is in Kansas right now, so he couldn't be here on our Thanksgiving special.
[00:00:28] We've been doing some recording.
[00:00:29] It's been a busy couple weeks.
[00:00:31] Just wanted to check in and go old school.
[00:00:32] We're doing an old school solo 276?
[00:00:38] Yeah, 275 was Cody last week.
[00:00:39] This is 276.
[00:00:41] 276 of these fucking things.
[00:00:42] That's crazy, man.
[00:00:44] Mr. Badstone is joining me on this discussion bushing in the guest seat.
[00:00:48] Yeah, I like sitting over here.
[00:00:49] Different perspective.
[00:00:50] So technically, I'm hosting this bad boy.
[00:00:52] Yeah, you kind of are.
[00:00:53] I'm kind of hosting the Thanksgiving special.
[00:00:56] Anytime I sit over here, it does feel that way.
[00:00:58] But it makes more sense than me sitting over there.
[00:01:00] Yeah, because then we're like, then I got you on this camera.
[00:01:03] Yeah, you have cameras for on.
[00:01:03] And I'm all cranked over here looking at you.
[00:01:05] You got four on?
[00:01:06] I do.
[00:01:07] Yeah, so if I'm sitting there, yeah, you and I are having to do neck breakers.
[00:01:10] He's right here.
[00:01:11] He's right here.
[00:01:11] I did cut to that camera where you were not right now.
[00:01:13] Yeah, it's usually where I sit.
[00:01:15] Over here, it's a different experience because I can usually see what's going on over there
[00:01:18] with the monitors that we have.
[00:01:19] I can see the levels.
[00:01:20] So I'm getting the guest experience of DCPC.
[00:01:23] It's good.
[00:01:23] We don't distract our guests with all the camera cuts and screens.
[00:01:26] You can't see any of that from the guest seat.
[00:01:29] It's very important.
[00:01:31] Well, it's just, yeah, you want to make them as comfortable as possible.
[00:01:34] Yeah.
[00:01:35] You don't want distractions, I guess is a better way to describe it.
[00:01:38] But we're here.
[00:01:39] It's another holiday coming up.
[00:01:41] I know another holiday season.
[00:01:43] What is this?
[00:01:44] Is this our fifth or sixth Thanksgiving special?
[00:01:47] This would be our...
[00:01:48] Because we did 2019.
[00:01:49] This would be our sixth.
[00:01:51] 2021.
[00:01:51] Two, three.
[00:01:52] Yeah, this is our sixth Thanksgiving podcast episode, which is incredible.
[00:01:56] It is.
[00:01:57] You know?
[00:01:57] And happy Thanksgiving to everybody.
[00:02:00] So I thought it'd be fun just to do a quick solo get-together.
[00:02:04] Yeah.
[00:02:05] Good old Arthur Kev talking.
[00:02:07] Yeah.
[00:02:07] And it's been a busy year.
[00:02:08] Like, look, we're already on December.
[00:02:10] So like the year...
[00:02:11] 2024 is already almost over.
[00:02:13] This year just flew by.
[00:02:14] I was recapping this year when I was in the pool today.
[00:02:17] And I was just kind of thinking back.
[00:02:19] And it has honestly been one of my favorite years of my entire life.
[00:02:26] It's been a good year.
[00:02:27] As far as travel, as far as opportunities, overcoming challenges.
[00:02:33] Yeah.
[00:02:33] Like alcohol.
[00:02:35] Even though I've been having a couple of the last couple episodes.
[00:02:38] Yeah, you're having some again tonight.
[00:02:39] I'm having just a couple right now.
[00:02:41] I got the Patagonian non-alcs.
[00:02:42] And I support your movement.
[00:02:44] But a lot of growth for both of us on our relationship with alcohol.
[00:02:48] Huge.
[00:02:49] 2024 year has been a breakout year.
[00:02:51] Yeah.
[00:02:51] And a lot of people are doing the sobriety movement.
[00:02:53] My brother, he's still going strong.
[00:02:54] I'm really proud of him.
[00:02:55] I know I've said that on almost every show.
[00:02:57] But him and I both got the bug of alcoholism.
[00:03:00] And so, you know, have been through the ringer.
[00:03:02] We've had tough times, man.
[00:03:04] Tough times.
[00:03:04] And that's usually when people collapse on alcohol.
[00:03:06] So just getting a grip on it.
[00:03:08] And for you too, changing the way you drank.
[00:03:10] I mean, people know.
[00:03:11] You go back and watch us in 22, 23.
[00:03:13] We were pretty much wasted on every episode.
[00:03:15] Yeah.
[00:03:15] We held it together.
[00:03:16] I mean, functional alcoholics.
[00:03:18] Or at least I was.
[00:03:19] I can't speak for you.
[00:03:20] But it seemed like we pulled it off.
[00:03:21] I mean, I was functioning.
[00:03:22] But it was deteriorating a lot of different aspects of my well-being.
[00:03:25] I've been enjoying sober podcasting.
[00:03:27] I really have.
[00:03:28] It's fun.
[00:03:29] And we recorded Happy Friday right before this.
[00:03:32] Yeah, we already got that knocked out.
[00:03:33] And one thing that I have realized, you know, is like if I eat too many edibles, smoke too
[00:03:38] much, or drink too much, and going to record a show like Happy Friday where you got to be
[00:03:42] buttoned up, you got to be reading this stuff, I don't perform as well.
[00:03:47] So that's one thing I've noticed after I critique myself watching back.
[00:03:52] So I chose to wait until I did this little Thanksgiving special.
[00:03:57] Yeah.
[00:03:57] No, I think that's fair.
[00:03:58] I mean, we're just going to kind of goof around a bit, talk about some things.
[00:04:01] I mean, for folks that tuned in the last week's episode, I kind of made the public announcement
[00:04:07] that I was done with this show and Happy Friday.
[00:04:09] That you were considering.
[00:04:11] Yeah.
[00:04:11] I was highly concerned.
[00:04:12] I was there.
[00:04:12] I was mentally done with the programs.
[00:04:15] It's just been a lot, you know, a lot in my personal life, you know, the struggles
[00:04:19] with YouTube.
[00:04:20] And then it's just like everybody always says, right?
[00:04:22] When you think about giving up is when the energy shift happened.
[00:04:25] I mean, we've had a monumentumous, monumentumous?
[00:04:28] A monumental.
[00:04:29] Monumental.
[00:04:30] Couple last two weeks.
[00:04:32] Monumental energy shift.
[00:04:33] Yeah.
[00:04:33] Really with everything around this program and the direction of it for the future.
[00:04:39] Well, it's NTG too.
[00:04:40] Mash the Gas.
[00:04:40] I feel like Mash the Gas brought a lot of momentum into the other programs.
[00:04:44] Yeah.
[00:04:44] I mean, it all falls under the same umbrella.
[00:04:46] So good things on that forefront.
[00:04:48] I'm fortunate for that.
[00:04:49] You know, been some big changes in my personal life that I'm working through.
[00:04:53] Right.
[00:04:54] And so, yeah, I'm recommitted.
[00:04:56] I mean, I'm ready to go.
[00:04:57] So what would be like if you were to take like the two or three biggest things that you're
[00:05:03] most grateful for in 24?
[00:05:05] I know we still got a whole month left, but like it's Thanksgiving.
[00:05:08] It's that time of the year.
[00:05:10] What am I thankful for?
[00:05:11] Well, I mean, a lot of it stays pretty consistent.
[00:05:13] I'm number one, very thankful for family.
[00:05:16] You know, that I have my parents that will pretty much answer my call anytime I call them.
[00:05:21] You know, I get to play video games with my dad and my brother and, you know, family first.
[00:05:25] Right?
[00:05:26] That's the most important thing.
[00:05:28] Second, that would be friends, which kind of falls under that family bracket.
[00:05:31] Right?
[00:05:31] I've got great friends that, you know, will come hang out.
[00:05:35] I'll go hang with them.
[00:05:36] We talk.
[00:05:37] We can communicate.
[00:05:38] That's important.
[00:05:38] It is.
[00:05:39] Having that family and friend group.
[00:05:41] So I would say I would start there.
[00:05:43] And then I think the list goes on.
[00:05:45] I'm very fortunate to, you know, have a career.
[00:05:48] You know?
[00:05:49] That's always a good thing.
[00:05:50] That's more than a lot of folks can say.
[00:05:52] And I'm also thankful for, what else am I thankful for?
[00:05:57] A lot of things, really.
[00:05:58] It's hard to put it into three.
[00:05:59] I mean, you know, overcoming.
[00:06:01] We talked about the relationship with alcohol.
[00:06:04] Yeah.
[00:06:04] You've inspired people with that.
[00:06:06] Yeah.
[00:06:07] Survived the chopping block and a couple different scenarios.
[00:06:11] A couple different scenarios throughout the year.
[00:06:15] Yeah.
[00:06:15] Which we don't need to disclose all those.
[00:06:17] But, yeah, dodge some bullets.
[00:06:19] Yeah, man.
[00:06:20] You know?
[00:06:21] Life gets hard sometimes, you know?
[00:06:22] And it's going to take grit.
[00:06:24] True grit.
[00:06:25] You know?
[00:06:25] And that never give up mentality.
[00:06:27] It's so easy to want to throw in the towel.
[00:06:29] You know?
[00:06:30] On anything in life.
[00:06:31] Yeah.
[00:06:31] Right?
[00:06:32] But then what comes of that?
[00:06:33] No, nothing.
[00:06:34] Then what do you do?
[00:06:36] Yeah, that's the thing.
[00:06:37] Then what are you doing?
[00:06:38] I would, you know, I don't know what I would have done.
[00:06:40] I mean, obviously, mash the gas.
[00:06:41] We know that's going to be a big.
[00:06:42] It's going to take more of my time in 2025.
[00:06:44] You know?
[00:06:45] So I think mentally I was thinking, well, I got that program.
[00:06:47] You know, I'll be okay to step away from these.
[00:06:50] But that's just, it's not the right way to think.
[00:06:51] I committed to this show a long time ago, and I love this program.
[00:06:55] This is where it all started.
[00:06:56] This is why I had the opportunities I've had.
[00:06:57] This is why I've met the people I've met.
[00:06:59] Created the networking circles that we have now.
[00:07:02] And have had all these great moments, memories, and experiences that are cataloged.
[00:07:05] I mean, I get texts and messages all the time from people like, we love watching your show.
[00:07:09] You know?
[00:07:10] And so it's just been a weird energy shift with it.
[00:07:13] You know?
[00:07:13] When I was completely checked out, wasn't seeing any of that.
[00:07:16] Yeah.
[00:07:16] Right?
[00:07:16] And look, we're putting a refocused focus, if you will, a restructured focus on where we're going with this program.
[00:07:23] And it really isn't that different than what we've been doing.
[00:07:26] Consistent quality content.
[00:07:27] A little bit more on the social media side.
[00:07:30] And I think it's all going to pay dividends and keep getting great.
[00:07:33] We have a fantastic guest lineup coming.
[00:07:35] I just looked at our calendar.
[00:07:36] I mean, we got some bangers coming.
[00:07:38] It's happening.
[00:07:39] Yeah.
[00:07:39] It's happening.
[00:07:40] No, the discussion combustion, having organic conversations, getting to know people, meeting all the artists, all the chefs, all the entrepreneurs, musicians, all the people.
[00:07:53] Like, we're fortunate that people get excited to come and talk to us.
[00:07:59] Like, we're just blessed for that.
[00:08:01] Right.
[00:08:01] But we also stuck to this.
[00:08:02] Like, we're coming up on six years.
[00:08:04] It's amazing.
[00:08:05] Six years recording discussion combustion.
[00:08:06] I know my life's completely changed since we started this podcast.
[00:08:10] I was still on pills when I started.
[00:08:12] Yeah.
[00:08:13] When we started this podcast.
[00:08:14] Yeah.
[00:08:15] I'm about to celebrate four years off of that.
[00:08:17] It's incredible.
[00:08:18] So the majority of doing the podcast now, I've been off of that stuff.
[00:08:21] Your sobriety is graduating high school for four years.
[00:08:23] It is.
[00:08:23] It is.
[00:08:24] So many exciting things, man.
[00:08:25] 2024, I got to give it up because I have never traveled so much in one year.
[00:08:31] I went on a lot of personal trips, and then I went on some business trips as well, utilized by my day job and my company.
[00:08:38] And also, 2024, man, the healthiest romantic relationship I've ever been in.
[00:08:46] That's terrific.
[00:08:46] And so it's been a breakout year.
[00:08:49] Romance is a big thing.
[00:08:51] A lot of people are looking for love, right?
[00:08:53] So I'm just going to touch on this really quickly and as compact as I can.
[00:08:57] It's going to be a raw rant?
[00:08:58] Yes.
[00:08:58] I just had a key back rant.
[00:08:59] A little raw talk here.
[00:09:01] And really, relationships, romantic relationships and friendships, really you should be happy alone first.
[00:09:12] Yeah.
[00:09:12] I agree with that.
[00:09:13] You should have some sort of sustainable happiness with your individualism by yourself,
[00:09:21] and you should really start to figure out your purpose in life, pursue that purpose,
[00:09:26] and relentlessly go after what's most important to you regardless of who the fuck can keep up or not.
[00:09:36] Yep.
[00:09:36] Very well said.
[00:09:37] By doing that, eventually, and like Richard Reed and his wife.
[00:09:42] Anna.
[00:09:43] Anna.
[00:09:43] Anna and Richard.
[00:09:44] Great, great couple.
[00:09:45] That was awesome.
[00:09:46] I found someone that was running in my same direction.
[00:09:48] Yeah.
[00:09:48] Maybe not completely as far as being an entertainer and all this other stuff, but as far as energy-wise.
[00:09:54] I found somebody that had my same energy.
[00:09:58] And that's a lot of energy, folks.
[00:09:59] I work next to this man a lot.
[00:10:01] It's a lot of energy, and this girl is a major manifester.
[00:10:06] Yeah, she's great.
[00:10:06] So she actually told me that she manifested me into her life.
[00:10:10] That's terrific.
[00:10:10] Somebody with all my qualities.
[00:10:12] It was one of the best compliments I've ever received.
[00:10:14] You never told me that.
[00:10:15] Yeah.
[00:10:15] She like, it was 11-11.
[00:10:18] No, it was 8-8 of 23.
[00:10:21] 23.
[00:10:22] No, wait.
[00:10:23] Is that right?
[00:10:24] What are you asking me?
[00:10:26] Wait, no, 24.
[00:10:26] Yeah, it was 8-8 of 23.
[00:10:28] Is when?
[00:10:30] That's when she wrote this manifestation down, because that's like a portal day.
[00:10:34] The things open up, and she manifested.
[00:10:37] I never asked her what was on that list.
[00:10:40] I'm just happy that we linked up.
[00:10:44] The universe works in mysterious ways.
[00:10:46] It does.
[00:10:46] It does.
[00:10:47] But the main thing about this whole relationship thing is I wasn't looking for a relationship.
[00:10:51] I was having fun in the dating world, but when you're dating, you get reps.
[00:10:59] You start realizing what you like, what you don't like.
[00:11:03] And so through doing that and having fun, you start attracting people of like energy.
[00:11:09] And then also, you recognize the really, really good ones once they come across your path because you have experience.
[00:11:18] You've been meeting people.
[00:11:20] Well, yeah.
[00:11:21] You're not in a โ a lot of people end up in a fight or flight scenario.
[00:11:24] Like, I have to find somebody.
[00:11:26] Running out of time.
[00:11:27] I need it for financial support.
[00:11:28] I need a stepdad for my kids.
[00:11:30] That's not helpful.
[00:11:30] And that's going into it for the wrong reasons.
[00:11:33] It just is.
[00:11:34] You know, I think if you're โ and a lot of people end up in that position.
[00:11:37] And hey, you know, more power to you.
[00:11:39] But I think, you know, codependency is kind of a problem, right?
[00:11:44] You're leaning on โ and I'm more talking about like the financial side of it.
[00:11:49] And, you know, if you absolutely are looking for love for that reason, I think you're going into it for the wrong reasons, right?
[00:11:55] Yeah.
[00:11:56] You want to be able to be sustained.
[00:11:57] You want to love your life and the people around you as it is before you can share that, right?
[00:12:02] Rather than just lean on someone else's accomplishments or financial gain, something along those lines.
[00:12:08] Yeah.
[00:12:08] No, it's so true.
[00:12:10] And so finding your own individualism and being reliable to yourself for sustainable happiness, those are things that I started to really โ like the ball was already rolling.
[00:12:27] But those are all things that really continued to roll into 2024.
[00:12:31] All these trips, going to Vancouver was so fun for me.
[00:12:34] How many miles do you think you covered this year?
[00:12:36] I don't even know.
[00:12:37] I mean, going to Sweden was a lot.
[00:12:39] Is that like 9,000 miles?
[00:12:40] It's a lot of miles.
[00:12:42] I covered a lot of miles this year, and I'm so fortunate for that.
[00:12:45] Yeah.
[00:12:45] And I'm able to help people with my day job and also through this podcasting.
[00:12:50] I did Raw Talk, which was a quick like 10.5 episode.
[00:12:55] I don't think that's done.
[00:12:56] I don't think it's done either, but I'm going to start promoting what already exists because that show took a lot out of me.
[00:13:02] It did.
[00:13:02] I know you put a lot into it.
[00:13:03] I had no involvement in that.
[00:13:05] Yeah.
[00:13:05] That was not my thing.
[00:13:06] No, it was โ Raw Talk was really shit I had to get off my chest.
[00:13:11] Yeah.
[00:13:12] And it was well done.
[00:13:12] Things that were really important to me, and that's why I couldn't just keep pushing it if I wasn't feeling that tenacity.
[00:13:19] I can't fake that.
[00:13:20] That was like season one.
[00:13:21] Yeah, that was season one.
[00:13:22] Quick 10-up.
[00:13:23] Yeah, you do a little promotion on it.
[00:13:24] You get people excited for season two or whatever you want to do with it.
[00:13:27] That's the freedom of doing these kind of shows.
[00:13:29] There's no right or wrong way to go about it, I don't think.
[00:13:32] But number one, do it because you still love it, right?
[00:13:34] We've got to get the back-to-basics approach.
[00:13:36] Yeah.
[00:13:36] Do it because you love it.
[00:13:37] You show up because you have a good time, and then the rest should follow.
[00:13:39] Yeah, if you're not having fun, then what are you doing?
[00:13:40] What are you doing?
[00:13:41] What are you doing?
[00:13:42] You know, so 2024 was really just a great year.
[00:13:46] It was a year of change for me, for sure.
[00:13:48] Big year of change.
[00:13:49] I mean, you were talking about when you turned 35 and taking this break from alcohol.
[00:13:54] Yeah.
[00:13:55] Which, I'm just going to say it here.
[00:13:58] Your original goal was to drink, not drink, for 12 months and fundamentally change your relationship with alcohol.
[00:14:09] And so originally you were kind of putting like this year timeline on that, right?
[00:14:13] Yeah, and I think once it got closer to that June 7th mark, you know, as I was closing in, I just โ I think it was like let's just see what happens kind of approach.
[00:14:20] Yeah.
[00:14:20] And for folks that tuned in, like in April, I stopped drinking on the podcast.
[00:14:24] So I did it in those waves, you know, removed it from the pod, stopped doing it on school nights or whatever, just eased into it.
[00:14:31] And then now it's just kind of just riding the wave, right?
[00:14:34] Riding the wave.
[00:14:35] Drinking some non-alcoholic beers is definitely โ I've pumped these big time for a lot of people.
[00:14:39] Seltzers.
[00:14:40] Yeah.
[00:14:40] You've got to have something to replace that liquid to lips.
[00:14:42] So for me, what does it look like going forward?
[00:14:44] It's really just about not letting alcohol control my life.
[00:14:48] That's the goal.
[00:14:49] That's the bigger goal of anything.
[00:14:51] The timeline, the days, the weeks, the months, those will come.
[00:14:55] The bigger mission here is not letting alcohol control my life.
[00:14:59] Yeah.
[00:14:59] I am in control of alcohol.
[00:15:00] So to me, that's the goal.
[00:15:02] We're doing it.
[00:15:03] And I've seen that change.
[00:15:04] And we're crushing it.
[00:15:05] I've seen that change, man.
[00:15:07] I know I'm cheers โ I'm cheers with this, but โ
[00:15:09] But we're on two different journeys with it a little bit.
[00:15:12] Cheers to that.
[00:15:12] Yeah.
[00:15:13] And I will never fucking ever touch pills again.
[00:15:18] Like, that's done.
[00:15:19] Yeah.
[00:15:19] That part of your life is over.
[00:15:20] That's done.
[00:15:20] That's in the past.
[00:15:21] And that's what you should focus on.
[00:15:24] These are the milestones of life that are great things.
[00:15:26] Getting a clear mind.
[00:15:27] Getting refocused on that mission to drive purpose.
[00:15:29] Because when you got off those pills and this podcast started, that's when your life fundamentally began to change.
[00:15:33] Oh, yeah.
[00:15:33] Weight loss.
[00:15:34] Right.
[00:15:35] Prioritizing yourself.
[00:15:36] Yep.
[00:15:36] Good mental health.
[00:15:37] Right.
[00:15:38] All those things came after that.
[00:15:40] Yeah.
[00:15:40] And I was in my worst shape and worst position coming off of pills.
[00:15:45] And you can go back and see those episodes.
[00:15:47] Yeah.
[00:15:47] You looked pretty rough back then.
[00:15:49] I mean, I was big boy.
[00:15:50] You know?
[00:15:50] You could just tell you were going through some shit.
[00:15:52] Yeah.
[00:15:53] In some episodes, like, if you go way back, you could, like, hear how much deeper my voice is.
[00:15:58] Like, your boy's high on opiates.
[00:16:00] Yeah.
[00:16:00] I mean, this would be, like, for anyone that's curious about this and wants to thumb back prior to episode 70, I would say.
[00:16:07] Yep.
[00:16:07] Yep.
[00:16:07] That's a safe bet.
[00:16:09] Anything under 70.
[00:16:10] Yeah.
[00:16:10] There's a chance Art could have been on pills still.
[00:16:12] For sure.
[00:16:12] Because it was February 21.
[00:16:15] Yeah.
[00:16:15] So we were, like, close to the 100 at that point.
[00:16:17] So, yeah.
[00:16:18] We were, like, close to episode the first year and somewhere in there.
[00:16:23] Either way.
[00:16:23] That was crucial.
[00:16:24] And, you know, you keep track of that date.
[00:16:26] That means a lot.
[00:16:26] You know you're not going to touch that substance again.
[00:16:28] Yeah.
[00:16:28] You know, you let it go.
[00:16:30] I mean, there's been times where, like, I've romanced, like, oh, how fun was that to get snuggy with my blankie?
[00:16:38] Because that's, like, what doing drugs is like.
[00:16:41] That type of drug.
[00:16:42] Yeah.
[00:16:43] You, like, get into, like, even booze.
[00:16:45] Like, oh, yeah, let me get warm and enjoy this and just relax and listen to music.
[00:16:50] A little sloppy.
[00:16:51] A little sloppy.
[00:16:52] You know?
[00:16:53] And, like, I'm doing that to a small extent right now.
[00:16:56] Doesn't matter how they're having a couple beers.
[00:16:57] But I'm going to keep it responsible.
[00:16:59] Yeah.
[00:17:00] But still, it's just like, it's like one of those things where the more that you face it and the more that you are acknowledging what's really happening in your life, the hard truths.
[00:17:12] Mm-hmm.
[00:17:13] The stuff where you're, like, looking at it like, actually, I'm being weak.
[00:17:16] To admit your own weakness and fault.
[00:17:20] Yeah.
[00:17:20] Really, that is a powerful moment.
[00:17:24] It is.
[00:17:25] Because once you do that, once you admit and you're acknowledging your own faults.
[00:17:29] That's step one.
[00:17:30] Only then can you really start looking at it and figuring out, you know, what is my actual good life?
[00:17:38] What's my happy existence look like?
[00:17:40] You know?
[00:17:41] And not dependent on anybody fucking else.
[00:17:44] What's my own happy existence look like that I can create?
[00:17:48] And honestly, when you start doing that, it gets really exciting because we're all capable of so much.
[00:17:57] Of so much.
[00:17:58] It's true.
[00:17:59] Yeah, it's true.
[00:18:00] And that might look different for a lot of people.
[00:18:01] I know a lot of people that have never drank, have never done drugs before.
[00:18:04] Yeah, like, what's going on with it?
[00:18:05] Like, my girl's like that.
[00:18:07] I've looked up to her for that.
[00:18:08] A lot of people just don't do drugs and alcohol.
[00:18:10] You know?
[00:18:11] But then there's other addictions.
[00:18:12] I've talked about this.
[00:18:13] I had a documentary idea over the summer that I still think would be a great film.
[00:18:16] Dopamine Nation.
[00:18:17] Dopamine.
[00:18:17] Name it would be Addicted.
[00:18:19] Dopamine Nation.
[00:18:20] Because, and we've talked about this, with L-Dopa, the chemical that's releasing the brain,
[00:18:24] whether it's from working out, doing sex, eating sugar, eating shitty food, McDonald's,
[00:18:29] you know, watching Netflix.
[00:18:31] Buying stuff on Amazon.
[00:18:32] Buying stuff on Amazon.
[00:18:33] All of it releases that same chemical that we get addicted to.
[00:18:35] That's why people end up hoarding, shopping obsessions, all that stuff.
[00:18:39] It's the same chemical.
[00:18:40] Everybody's addicted to it.
[00:18:41] It just pulls you in.
[00:18:43] Something is pulling at everybody.
[00:18:45] And, you know, identifying where we can improve in those areas is not the easiest thing for
[00:18:49] folks to do because a lot of people are addicted to working out or the health stuff, you know,
[00:18:55] which arguably, yeah, that's better than being addicted to cocaine.
[00:18:58] I'm not saying that.
[00:18:59] But you're still getting that addictive chemical release from over there.
[00:19:02] So here's, here's like my quick thought on that is you got to, you got to spread this
[00:19:07] thing out.
[00:19:08] Like you have to spread your dopamine out because we're all addicted to receiving dopamine and
[00:19:13] like feeling fulfilled.
[00:19:15] So you have to like really find passion projects, things that you like.
[00:19:20] I mean, if I were, if we were to, I would have had to, I would have picked up raw talk immediately
[00:19:25] if you were to quit the other podcast.
[00:19:26] Cause I'm like, dude, there's no way I can stop creating something.
[00:19:30] No, I know.
[00:19:31] Like I have to keep creating.
[00:19:32] That is a dopamine that I chase, you know, staying healthy, letting go.
[00:19:36] So, well, yeah, you'd be an MTG of course and all this, but you got to spread it out.
[00:19:42] It can't just, you can't just be like one thing is giving you dopamine, like your romantic
[00:19:48] partner.
[00:19:49] Like you can't rely on them for all your dopamine.
[00:19:52] Like you have to create some of your own and it can't be like off alcohol all the time.
[00:19:56] Sure.
[00:19:57] You can have, you can have a couple responsibly every once in a while.
[00:20:00] It's a tightrope.
[00:20:00] You got to set realistic expectations for yourself because people that usually go through
[00:20:04] drastic changes, get, they get excited because it is an exciting time to make, get off alcohol,
[00:20:09] get off drugs, whatever.
[00:20:10] But then they swing pretty far the other way.
[00:20:12] Right.
[00:20:13] And they get addicted to oftentimes caffeine, sugar, you know, uh, eating shitty food.
[00:20:18] A lot of people put on a lot of weight, you know?
[00:20:20] So it's like there's this shift that happens and I think finding the healthy path to do that,
[00:20:24] it's going to look different for everybody.
[00:20:26] You know, it just is.
[00:20:27] But like you said, going back to number one, identifying it, right.
[00:20:29] Right.
[00:20:29] Circling out.
[00:20:30] What do I, what, what do I want to look different in my life?
[00:20:33] Because we're a creator of our life.
[00:20:35] We're not a manager of it.
[00:20:36] Right.
[00:20:36] So we have to create these opportunities.
[00:20:38] The older I get, the more I realize nobody fucking cares, Art.
[00:20:41] Yeah.
[00:20:42] My parents care.
[00:20:42] You care.
[00:20:43] I'm very fortunate to have that.
[00:20:45] Yeah.
[00:20:45] But outside of that, nobody fucking cares.
[00:20:47] The shit that I'm going through.
[00:20:48] Nobody cares.
[00:20:49] Even if I care, you're still alone.
[00:20:51] You're still alone.
[00:20:52] Like you can, you can hit me up and I'll talk to you and stuff, but like when it comes down
[00:20:56] to it, like no one's going to save you, bro.
[00:20:58] It's up to me.
[00:20:59] You're the only person that could do it.
[00:21:02] And I think that's why people kick this can of self-improvement down the hallway so long,
[00:21:08] making all this noise of like, yeah, you know, I want my life to be this way.
[00:21:12] Or like, they're like never fully committed to actually changing is because you're doing
[00:21:19] it alone.
[00:21:20] And like, you have to get into this, this like warrior mode.
[00:21:24] Yeah.
[00:21:24] Like where you're just like, you're just ready to stop being like weak.
[00:21:30] Pretty much.
[00:21:31] Like you have to like look at yourself and be like, nah, you're doing this because you're
[00:21:36] a beast.
[00:21:37] Yeah.
[00:21:38] You got to go.
[00:21:38] You got to go own it.
[00:21:39] You got to full send it.
[00:21:40] And you got to, you got to be really committed to whatever it is you're going to do.
[00:21:43] If you're going to do it, you go all the way.
[00:21:44] Right.
[00:21:45] Otherwise don't even start.
[00:21:46] And look, that is a tall glass to drink.
[00:21:51] It certainly is.
[00:21:52] It's not for everyone.
[00:21:52] Look, you might get waterboarded trying to drink that glass.
[00:21:56] Yeah.
[00:21:57] It's, uh, it's not, look, this life's not easy.
[00:22:00] All right.
[00:22:00] Hard times are going to happen.
[00:22:01] Hard times don't last.
[00:22:03] Tough people do.
[00:22:04] And so it's time to deep, dig down deep and find that grit, that grit.
[00:22:08] It's going to take grit art to persevere in this life.
[00:22:12] It just is, you know, you're going to have encouragers.
[00:22:14] We've got cheerleaders.
[00:22:15] I'm so fortunate I have great friends, but I got to go do it.
[00:22:17] I got to make it happen every single day.
[00:22:19] Every single day.
[00:22:20] It's up to me.
[00:22:20] It's not up to Arthur to make sure I'm here on time.
[00:22:22] It's up to me.
[00:22:23] Yep.
[00:22:24] And that whole stuff about like, it doesn't matter what anybody else thinks.
[00:22:28] Like when you can have a sustained happiness without caring about anybody's opinion, like
[00:22:35] that is true freedom.
[00:22:37] And being completely honest, I used to be the most manipulative liar when the circumstances
[00:22:45] presented itself for me to try to benefit myself in a selfish way with drug use.
[00:22:50] Right?
[00:22:51] That's most drug and alcohol use.
[00:22:52] So still, I was lying and I knew I was.
[00:22:55] Most.
[00:22:55] But like once you break that and you get into like this honesty mode.
[00:23:00] Yeah.
[00:23:01] And I've talked to you about this a lot in our personal conversations.
[00:23:04] Yeah.
[00:23:04] We have a lot of podcasts not on air.
[00:23:06] Yeah.
[00:23:06] If you will.
[00:23:06] Yeah.
[00:23:06] This is, we're, we're still keeping it somewhat PC here.
[00:23:10] Oh yeah.
[00:23:11] But yeah, Kevin and I talk all the time.
[00:23:12] This is why we do this.
[00:23:13] Exactly.
[00:23:14] But like when you can fucking truly own your shit and take responsibility and you're not
[00:23:22] looking for happiness from other people and you're not looking for other people's opinions
[00:23:27] to what built, build up your motive and you're setting goals and you're not telling anybody
[00:23:34] and you're, and you're just handling it.
[00:23:37] That's it.
[00:23:38] That right there and being honest and, and like letting people accept you or not.
[00:23:44] Yeah.
[00:23:44] That's the greatest feeling.
[00:23:45] And walking away from it and being like, and being like crushing your goals.
[00:23:48] Cause here's the thing is, is when you're super fucking honest, you're putting, you're
[00:23:52] putting it all on the, on the line and you're living that real raw life and you're starting
[00:23:58] to enjoy your existence.
[00:23:59] People are going to be haters.
[00:24:01] Always.
[00:24:02] People will start hating on your shit.
[00:24:03] They already have.
[00:24:04] And it's like, it's just noise.
[00:24:06] It doesn't matter what anybody thinks.
[00:24:08] It's just noise.
[00:24:09] And cause here's the thing is actions speak louder than words.
[00:24:12] Yes.
[00:24:13] And that's just, that's a fact of life.
[00:24:14] That goes back eons.
[00:24:16] You know, actions do speak louder than words and people are keyboard warriors.
[00:24:19] People say things behind your back, whatever.
[00:24:22] There's a lot of jealousy.
[00:24:23] There's this, there's that.
[00:24:24] That's always going to exist.
[00:24:25] I mean, that's just never going to go away.
[00:24:27] That's human nature.
[00:24:29] Haters.
[00:24:29] You're going to have that negative and you're going to have that positive to balance the scale.
[00:24:33] Right.
[00:24:33] Right.
[00:24:34] It's up to us to choose which side of that scale we're going to stand on.
[00:24:36] Are you going to get pulled into that negative?
[00:24:37] Are you going to let that shit run your day?
[00:24:39] Change your opinion on something?
[00:24:40] Cause someone says, oh, I don't like the way you do something or I want you to do it this way.
[00:24:43] No, I'm doing it my way.
[00:24:45] You're going to stand your ground on that.
[00:24:46] Right.
[00:24:46] Well, and maybe your way is flawed and it's always good to like kind of approach things from a neutral perspective.
[00:24:53] And we've heard so much great advice from people on advice for humanity.
[00:24:57] Tons.
[00:24:57] And to like any, even, even Vince was saying it tonight.
[00:25:01] He's like, you know, sometimes people are going through things and generally as an individual, we assume that it's about us, even though it isn't.
[00:25:09] And sometimes people just need space.
[00:25:12] It's true.
[00:25:12] You know, so there's all these different aspects to it.
[00:25:15] And this is a deep conversation we could get into.
[00:25:19] However, we're talking 2024.
[00:25:21] What an amazing year it was.
[00:25:23] A lot of mental growth.
[00:25:26] What do you want to accomplish in 25?
[00:25:29] Yeah, that's a good question.
[00:25:31] Well, I think we're kind of already started the energy train here with what's to come.
[00:25:37] Obviously.
[00:25:37] So in my professional life, you know, keep crushing it there.
[00:25:40] Doing what I need to do to pay the bills.
[00:25:42] Most important first, right?
[00:25:43] Got to have health coverage.
[00:25:44] Got to have retirement.
[00:25:45] So I give my company everything I can.
[00:25:48] Yeah.
[00:25:48] You know, so keep working hard.
[00:25:50] That doesn't change.
[00:25:51] That's, yeah, that's priority one.
[00:25:53] Yep.
[00:25:53] So that's there.
[00:25:55] And then, you know, really re-engaging on all my shows.
[00:25:58] Right?
[00:25:58] I'm going to have a lot coming February when Mash the Gas is cranking up.
[00:26:02] I mean, it's busy.
[00:26:03] It's busy even just doing two shows.
[00:26:04] Yeah, it is.
[00:26:05] When I was doing the Raw Talk on top, like, the week evaporated.
[00:26:09] It just evaporated.
[00:26:09] It pulls a lot out of me.
[00:26:10] So for folks that try to reach out, I'm not the best at responding to text to some people.
[00:26:14] I'm usually pretty checked out come the weekend.
[00:26:16] And I like to just kind of shut the engines down.
[00:26:18] So the goal for 2025 is to make the dream come alive.
[00:26:23] Right?
[00:26:23] Make the passion project come alive.
[00:26:25] And so for me, that's just going to take hard work.
[00:26:27] It's going to take grit.
[00:26:28] It's going to take never giving up.
[00:26:30] And focusing on myself.
[00:26:31] Truly, truly finding happiness in life.
[00:26:34] Right?
[00:26:34] Because I put a lot of, I try to find that through this.
[00:26:36] I try to find it through work.
[00:26:38] But I need to find it on my own, too.
[00:26:40] Yeah.
[00:26:40] Of course.
[00:26:41] You know?
[00:26:41] And so not many changes there.
[00:26:43] Just kind of reiterating some of my previous goals.
[00:26:45] Still going to surround myself with the greatest friends and family anyone can ask for.
[00:26:48] Still going to cook delicious meals.
[00:26:50] I'd like to learn some more culinary in 25.
[00:26:52] You know?
[00:26:52] And really dive into maybe some more cooking with Kev.
[00:26:55] So a lot of content.
[00:26:55] Those are fun videos.
[00:26:56] Yeah.
[00:26:57] A lot of content creation is going to be coming out of 25.
[00:26:59] And I think there's going to be tremendous opportunities that come our way.
[00:27:02] I really do.
[00:27:04] And you know, here's the thing.
[00:27:07] With all these projects, regardless of fiscal shit or all this other stuff, man, I still enjoy doing it.
[00:27:16] I do, too.
[00:27:16] You know?
[00:27:17] I still have fun doing it.
[00:27:19] It was more of the background stuff.
[00:27:20] Just to set the record straight.
[00:27:23] This is the best part.
[00:27:24] To quote John Ekstrom.
[00:27:26] Yep.
[00:27:26] You know?
[00:27:26] Said it a long time ago.
[00:27:27] Super solid life.
[00:27:28] This is the best part.
[00:27:29] When we interact, when we're recording the show, this is the fun part.
[00:27:32] The stuff that we deal with when you shut us off or turn it off on your earbuds, that's the stuff where it started to pull on me.
[00:27:40] The battles we've been having with YouTube, the copyright stuff, the demonetization, the fact that I can't say certain things.
[00:27:46] That, to me, was like, why am I doing it then?
[00:27:49] It just really opened.
[00:27:50] And all of the hurdles that we have had really opened up my mind to how played out all of this shit is.
[00:27:59] It's just amazing.
[00:28:00] It's so played out.
[00:28:01] And so that can wear on you.
[00:28:03] It can.
[00:28:03] And it started to with me.
[00:28:04] Because you can't even be real and successful.
[00:28:07] Exactly.
[00:28:07] Like, almost.
[00:28:08] Like, they don't want new people in the club, empowering people.
[00:28:12] That's what I'm going to continue to do that in 25.
[00:28:14] Empower people?
[00:28:15] Is empower people.
[00:28:16] That's part of your mission, drive, and purpose, for sure.
[00:28:18] Continue to empower myself, man.
[00:28:22] You know, I've been saying this a lot to you, but I'm slowing it down in 25.
[00:28:27] I think that's good.
[00:28:28] I'm getting ready to ramp it up.
[00:28:29] I'm going to start saving.
[00:28:30] I'm slowing it down in different ways.
[00:28:32] And then I'm obviously going to continue.
[00:28:34] You're talking more about leisure activities.
[00:28:36] Yeah, like going out, like, you know, needing to go to these events.
[00:28:41] I was a yes man for so many years.
[00:28:44] And I would just always say yes.
[00:28:46] I'm still going to say yes to a lot of things.
[00:28:48] To a lot of things.
[00:28:49] And look, I'm easily sold.
[00:28:51] That's for sure.
[00:28:52] Because I appreciate a good salesperson.
[00:28:55] I've been in sales a long time.
[00:28:56] I've sold you on a lot of stuff.
[00:28:57] You're a good sales guy.
[00:28:58] Thank you.
[00:28:58] And so, you know, you can sell me a little bit.
[00:29:01] Yeah.
[00:29:01] It's like I do that for a living or something.
[00:29:02] You know?
[00:29:03] It's just talking to people, though.
[00:29:05] That's all it is.
[00:29:05] That's the secret.
[00:29:06] It's the same thing I do here.
[00:29:07] Like, there's no...
[00:29:09] Selling stuff is not that crazy.
[00:29:11] It really is.
[00:29:11] It's not that hard to do.
[00:29:12] Depending on what you're selling.
[00:29:13] You just got to be able to talk.
[00:29:14] You got to be able to talk.
[00:29:15] You got to be able to build rapport.
[00:29:16] Yeah.
[00:29:16] That's what we do here.
[00:29:17] Yes.
[00:29:17] You know, we're not selling anything.
[00:29:18] We're just being ourselves.
[00:29:20] Right?
[00:29:20] We're selling a friendship and a bond that is over 15 years old.
[00:29:26] Isn't that crazy?
[00:29:26] It's been that long?
[00:29:27] It is crazy.
[00:29:28] Yeah.
[00:29:29] We've done a lot of shit in those 15 years, including this being six of them.
[00:29:32] Yep.
[00:29:33] Fortunate.
[00:29:33] We're fortunate for the friendships.
[00:29:35] Yeah.
[00:29:35] Very fortunate.
[00:29:36] Like I said, that's what I'm most thankful for.
[00:29:37] Mm-hmm.
[00:29:38] Right?
[00:29:38] Because without...
[00:29:39] I wrote a song about it in the Ridge Runners.
[00:29:40] Family and friends make you the richest man.
[00:29:42] Mm-hmm.
[00:29:42] You know, great friends and family is all the love this boy needs.
[00:29:45] You know, it's good to go.
[00:29:47] Dialed in.
[00:29:48] That's really what we need.
[00:29:49] Keep ignoring the noise.
[00:29:50] I don't lean into a lot of societal norms.
[00:29:52] You know, people know my positions on certain things.
[00:29:55] And I just do me.
[00:29:56] I try to do what's best.
[00:29:57] I try to show up and be as honest.
[00:29:58] I try to not mislead people and still have a good time.
[00:30:02] You know, still have fun along the way.
[00:30:04] And just be the best we can.
[00:30:05] Control what we can control always.
[00:30:07] Yep.
[00:30:07] That's true.
[00:30:08] That is true.
[00:30:09] So, how I will say this is we got Thanksgiving coming in tomorrow.
[00:30:14] Hell yeah, baby.
[00:30:15] Let's go.
[00:30:15] Turkey time.
[00:30:16] Hope everybody has some great meals.
[00:30:18] Great times.
[00:30:20] If we need to disagree with people or express, like, a hot take opinion,
[00:30:27] there's ways to do it where we can still respect everybody in the room.
[00:30:32] We can disagree with people while still respecting them.
[00:30:36] And I really think it comes down to your demeanor, your tone of voice.
[00:30:41] You know, let's keep our calm demeanor, calm voices.
[00:30:47] Silky smooth, baby.
[00:30:48] Keep it silky smooth.
[00:30:50] Let's stay rooted into, like, who we are.
[00:30:54] And, like, if you're still figuring that out,
[00:30:56] then I encourage you to keep fighting that battle
[00:31:00] and keep figuring out who you are.
[00:31:03] And, like, why show up to work?
[00:31:06] Why exist?
[00:31:07] Yeah.
[00:31:08] You know?
[00:31:08] I mean, that's pretty deep, of course.
[00:31:10] But it's the truth.
[00:31:12] Deep is reality.
[00:31:13] And some people want to run from reality.
[00:31:14] And they want to play characters.
[00:31:15] And they don't want to be in reality.
[00:31:17] And that's just not realistic.
[00:31:19] You've got to be in reality.
[00:31:20] You've got to take responsibility for this life.
[00:31:21] No one's going to do it for you.
[00:31:22] No one's going to hold your hand.
[00:31:23] You know?
[00:31:24] So, great advice there.
[00:31:25] You know, Thanksgiving.
[00:31:26] Looking forward to it.
[00:31:27] Mom and Dad are coming over.
[00:31:28] Spatchcocking that turkey.
[00:31:29] Going to smoke it.
[00:31:29] It's going to be great.
[00:31:31] Mom won't have to worry about cleaning up.
[00:31:32] I'll take care of all of it.
[00:31:33] Because, you know, Mom's put a lot of pressure on herself for years to do this shit.
[00:31:36] I'm taking it.
[00:31:37] Pass the baton.
[00:31:38] I'm taking it.
[00:31:39] I'm going to cook for my family.
[00:31:40] I'm looking forward to that.
[00:31:41] We're not going to talk politics.
[00:31:43] Because my parents and I don't agree on that.
[00:31:44] A little polarized there.
[00:31:45] They know where I stand.
[00:31:46] I know where they stand.
[00:31:47] That's it.
[00:31:47] Let's leave it there.
[00:31:48] Why make a big issue out of it?
[00:31:50] That's not what Thanksgiving is all about.
[00:31:51] It's not a big deal.
[00:31:51] You're entitled to your opinions, of course.
[00:31:53] But let's not start calling names.
[00:31:54] And this, that, and the other.
[00:31:55] Because it can get out of hand real quick.
[00:31:57] Especially with alcohol involved.
[00:31:59] Yeah.
[00:31:59] We know how this thing can go.
[00:32:01] Yeah, you get all emotional.
[00:32:02] And here's the thing.
[00:32:03] Is like, if you can perfect walking away from a conversation that isn't going to benefit you.
[00:32:11] Took me years.
[00:32:12] Then like, you're going to be whistling while you walk.
[00:32:16] I promise you that.
[00:32:18] Yeah, I mean.
[00:32:19] We don't have to give anything effort if it doesn't benefit us.
[00:32:21] And like, you know, I've said this a bunch of times on this program.
[00:32:24] But like, the chopping block is on the table.
[00:32:28] That knife's getting sharpened, baby.
[00:32:30] It's, it's, it's sharp already.
[00:32:32] She's ready to drop.
[00:32:33] You know, so.
[00:32:35] I'll talk about this one more time in case you're a new viewer or a listener to this program.
[00:32:39] Yeah.
[00:32:40] But like, have, it's, it's okay to cut people off in your life.
[00:32:44] You know, have respect for people.
[00:32:45] Do it respectfully.
[00:32:47] But if somebody is always negative Nancy and they're always raining on your parade and side-eyeing you and wishing for your failure.
[00:32:58] There's a lot of that out there.
[00:32:59] It's not going anywhere.
[00:33:00] You know, all you got to do is just walk away from those people.
[00:33:03] You know, you don't have to make, you don't have to be bitter about it.
[00:33:07] You don't have to be like upset with them for not believing in you.
[00:33:12] It, it's just one of those things, even where it's like, you might be making it a bigger deal.
[00:33:17] They might not even been thinking about you at all.
[00:33:19] And you're thinking that they're making it this whole thing.
[00:33:21] So there's all these layers to it.
[00:33:23] There's a lot of layers to it for sure.
[00:33:24] Well, and you know, what you resist will persist.
[00:33:26] What we look at will disappear.
[00:33:28] So what does that mean exactly?
[00:33:29] That's kind of facing, figuring out a calculated risk of what we can control.
[00:33:33] Is this worth my time to get into a conversation that's going to go nowhere and get people upset?
[00:33:37] Right.
[00:33:38] Or do I just take the high road?
[00:33:40] And by doing that, you're not necessarily admitting defeat.
[00:33:42] You're just saying, hey, let's just agree to disagree on this.
[00:33:44] And here I want you to try some green meat casserole.
[00:33:47] Yeah.
[00:33:47] Just tactfully move on.
[00:33:48] Yeah.
[00:33:49] You don't have to make a big deal about it and make it all weird and awkward and have things getting thrown around the house.
[00:33:53] And it's not what it's about.
[00:33:54] Yeah.
[00:33:55] Back to basics approach.
[00:33:56] You're there for family.
[00:33:57] I agree.
[00:33:58] I agree.
[00:33:59] Let's go.
[00:33:59] Let's roll.
[00:34:00] I'm ready for some turkey, baby.
[00:34:00] Let's make it a fantastic Thanksgiving.
[00:34:02] All my honey ham lovers out there.
[00:34:05] I respect that.
[00:34:07] Spatchcock turkey smoked off the Traeger.
[00:34:09] I'll try to post some stuff, clips of it on social media.
[00:34:12] Try to be a little more active over there.
[00:34:13] Set up that camera.
[00:34:13] Get a cooking with Kev.
[00:34:14] Yeah.
[00:34:15] Well, yeah.
[00:34:15] For the holiday.
[00:34:16] My dad used to be a photographer.
[00:34:17] I'll have him run the camera.
[00:34:18] Oh.
[00:34:19] That'd be fun.
[00:34:19] We'll get pops behind the scenes running the camera.
[00:34:21] That'd be fun.
[00:34:22] Yeah.
[00:34:22] That'd be really fun.
[00:34:23] Let's do it.
[00:34:24] 276 in the books, baby.
[00:34:26] 276 in the books.
[00:34:28] Everybody that's tuning into this, that's been with us since day one, we appreciate your support.
[00:34:32] Yeah.
[00:34:32] We're going to keep it coming.
[00:34:34] If you are chasing something big in your life, you need to at least question your ability
[00:34:40] to do it once.
[00:34:41] We shouldn't be setting all these mediocre goals.
[00:34:44] We should be chasing things that actually challenge us, that we get a little questionable if we
[00:34:50] want to continue to do it or not.
[00:34:51] Is it still worth it?
[00:34:53] Is it still worth the effort?
[00:34:54] Is it still worth the money?
[00:34:55] You know, we should be questioning shit.
[00:34:57] That's how you know.
[00:34:58] That's how you know you're on the right path, right?
[00:35:00] When you feel like giving up is when, and that's exactly what happened.
[00:35:02] I was done and then everything changed like overnight.
[00:35:05] My whole life got flipped upside down over the last 30 days.
[00:35:08] I'm not going to go into a lot of that personal detail, but it's been wild.
[00:35:11] And you know what?
[00:35:12] It's time.
[00:35:12] Time to put my work boots on, get out there, get after it, stay consistent.
[00:35:17] I got to hold myself accountable before I can hold anyone else accountable.
[00:35:19] That's true.
[00:35:20] And I can control what I control.
[00:35:21] So I love doing this show with you, brother.
[00:35:22] I love you to death.
[00:35:23] Love you too, man.
[00:35:24] I'm so fortunate to have you in my life.
[00:35:25] Love you too, bro.
[00:35:26] And I love all the listeners and viewers.
[00:35:28] Thank you.
[00:35:28] You know, you guys are awesome.
[00:35:31] Hitting that subscribe button, dropping comments, likes over on social.
[00:35:33] I mean, it's just cool that we get to do this.
[00:35:36] It is.
[00:35:36] So I'm fortunate.
[00:35:37] We get to meet awesome people.
[00:35:40] Peepers?
[00:35:41] Great people out there.
[00:35:42] And that's the other thing too.
[00:35:43] I mean, there's a lot of bad people out there, but there's a lot of great people.
[00:35:46] There is.
[00:35:46] Just tremendous people out there.
[00:35:47] So let's do this thing.
[00:35:49] Let's go have some turkey.
[00:35:50] Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.
[00:35:51] Be good to yourselves.
[00:35:52] You deserve it.
[00:35:53] And next time I talk to Kevin on the podcast, the triple N will be over for you.
[00:35:59] And I just really respect you for handling that challenge.
[00:36:02] It's an incredible challenge.
[00:36:03] I respect you for handling that challenge.
[00:36:05] Yep.
[00:36:06] So on that note, be good to yourselves.

