Cristian Aaron | Discussion Combustion Podcast | #271

[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_00]: This is a discussion coming to you from Dambert, Colorado. This is Discussion Combustion Podcast with your hosts, Kevin Batstone and Arthur Rawe

[00:00:16] [SPEAKER_02]: This time, Denver's kind of not starting to feel like home anymore. Okay. Just kind of ready to venture out and find something new

[00:00:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. What do you think's been the biggest change in Denver in the last few years?

[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I'd say the community. I feel like it's gotten a lot more variety to it, but at the same time

[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot more aggression here than there used to be Colorado these to be very quiet, very chill, down low

[00:00:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And now it's not, it's like a very rowdy city. Interesting. Okay. Like, like, rowdy like party-wise or like people are just like really aggressive

[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, in all types of ways. Yeah. Like road rage or like, yep, road rage. I mean, yeah, like even because I felt like because like you know

[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_02]: The Denver, the Broncos ones Super Bowl things like that. Like as soon as we started to get a bigger name, yeah

[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was in Denver. Mayor Juan was legalized. That kind of changed the Denver market quite a bit. Almost 10 years ago

[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_04]: It's been a little bit but fortunately it did get legalized in a bunch of other states.

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_04]: So now everyone's not just going, what was it organ and Colorado where the first Washington?

[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Right. Yeah. Well, I mean California always had a medical but yeah, Colorado kind of paved the way for wreck

[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And then everyone wanted to move here because it was a huge business opportunity. Everything was booming.

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You gun culture wanted to come here. Cannabis culture took over and now 10 years later you write has changed people are leaving

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Businesses are leaving. People are trying to relocate. I talked to more people that are like man, I want to move

[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_01]: That I do people are like, I want to move to Denver now. It's crazy how 10 years ago

[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, it's just like I feel like there's not as much room for growth here for me. It was far as in what I want to do and things like that

[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I have a lot of big ideas that just I feel like aren't able to grow as well here in Denver as well as they would other places

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_04]: And that is like specifically in hair styling or like hair styling. I'm also starting on my job at

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_02]: For the homeless. Oh, okay

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_02]: So I originally came up with it when I was in high school, but I'd never got to do it because of COVID

[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I wanted to start doing Denver Day at the park gets wanted by Walmart to give out clothes and food

[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_02]: And then find resources for homeless people to find their ideas, social security numbers all that kind of stuff

[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_01]: That's all right. Yeah, it's a great program. I mean Denver would be a good to kick it off

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that there's some restrictions here

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and just and I mean at least that here

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I could probably be a good starting place, but I just feel like there's a lot of other places that could use it as well

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I really want Denver to be the base for it, maybe

[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe find a place where the weather's a little better like San Diego

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know get that nice beach weather year round

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I do love San Diego

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_01]: The weather's perfect out there

[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't really love the politics California, but I do love the weather

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I will say though like I

[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_04]: For unfortunately it like we were kind of saying with the traveling and stuff, but like

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, to like you think about somebody that's in that situation where they don't have anything

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_04]: They don't even know

[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_04]: They don't have or even know anyone that has their birth certificate or social to even go get it

[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And like you know, so it's like where do you begin?

[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_04]: And I guess that is the beginning right is gathering the information to actually be able to submit a job application

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Right, but you can't do that without a social

[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like it's yeah a lot of perceived judgment in the beginning

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_02]: From you know people who have it all you know

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_02]: It's of course it's easy for you to go get a job

[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not as easy when you're recently coming off drugs or like I feel like

[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_02]: You know the homeless and never they always get that

[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I get there are some you know that maybe art just using your money for

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Booze and drugs and stuff like that but at the same time

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_02]: How many of those people on the opposite end of this fact should have know could you be helping?

[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's true. It kind of becomes a huge stereotype

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Like we won guy that wants the booze money when somebody actually doesn't need to help

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_01]: You know it's kind of sometimes it becomes hard

[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I mean you know I'm out about all the time in the market and get a pro-chake and he helped me here

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_01]: You know give me money there

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And I try to when I can you know five a couple bucks I will

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_01]: But I mean who's kiddo? I always think in the back of my mind like you're not gonna buy booze with it

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, like no, I just need to eat and either catch the bus whatever try to help wherever you can

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah

[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean you know

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like okay like back in the day out like yeah, you know go ahead and buy a beer with it like whatever

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_04]: But I was seeing this one quick short video where it was this guy talking about hey

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_04]: If you're in a bad situation and you know how can you get by with the bare minimum

[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_04]: The things that he did was he got a gym membership so then he could shower

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, so then at least your clean and then

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_04]: The second thing that that he did and recommended is that you just go to your local library

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_04]: And you know become a member and then that way you have access to the internet

[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_04]: That way you could print off applications

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Your resume, you know you can print off your resume if you need to hand it in hard copy

[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_04]: So a gym membership is like 40 bucks a month. A lot of places in the library

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_04]: A lot of libraries are free to join as a member

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_04]: So that's also kind of like a good starting point is what I would say

[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_01]: L'Abebe Lotheka

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_04]: L'Abebe Lotheka

[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Lotheka

[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Did that happen?

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Did that happen?

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_01]: It's been a whole for a sea for library sea

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean those have become an obsolete too that I feel like we were talking about that with I think it was Lori

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_01]: About libraries become a little bit more obsolete

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I'm still around I feel like but you know we're obviously a little bit older and you know libraries

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_01]: When we were growing up we're more you know that's where you go. You get two to you go to take an encyclopedia

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Feel like a lot of the information that was in our fingertips

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, which is also a negative thing

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean I know I'm young and all but I mean I still cherish things like that

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Like going to the library there's like I feel like there's just a different kind of vibe that goes with it

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Everything's a little slower

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Right, you know

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_02]: And it makes more sense I just feel like kind of having everything at your fingertips is a little too easy

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_01]: That's a blessing in a curse

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think more of a curse, you know having all this information all the time

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_01]: As I like to joke I said I can just go to i'mright.com or trust me bro.org

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And all of a sudden you know the whole pitch of the room changes

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_01]: It's interesting

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a you know like I said a blessing in a curse

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of good that comes out of it but recently I haven't seen a whole lot of good coming out of it art

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_04]: You know I haven't done this yet but one of my friends was saying that I need to go to the library and become a member

[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Because they have like programs where you could like join a digital book reading thing for free

[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_04]: So then you get like one free audio book a month or like two free a month

[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_04]: It's something like that

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_04]: But in that way you could actually like increase how much you're learning

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Because if you're listening to audio books like I don't read all the time

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_04]: I think I'll say in this the other week that like I could step up my reading

[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_04]: But like listening to audio books and there's like systems where they haven't seen you get free audio books through a library

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_04]: So there's definitely some benefits to going in there

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_04]: And then yeah it is a vibe

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_04]: You know when you're in the library

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_04]: It's kind of like okay let's respect quite you know let's respect the space here

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Right

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_04]: You know let's you know if we're just in here and then other people are learning they're like curious

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_04]: And then so then you're around that energy

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Like that curious energy other people have it

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Right

[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like you compare it to like an amusement park and being on a VR system

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_02]: The VR is cool and all but you'll never be able to experience the excitement of going on a roller coaster unless you're at the amusement park

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_04]: It's good way to word it

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_04]: See me

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I have a hard time finding groceries at a grocery store

[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_04]: So like if I'm looking for the correct book in a library like I would be going through like I can't find this

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'll be losing my patience and you can't get upset in a library

[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_04]: No you know to say play

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_04]: You get like you know stopping your feet in the library

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah that's not a good luck

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Well I mean you know in the groceries is probably not much better

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_01]: But what's going on in there?

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Why can't you find the potatoes and the peanut butter

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_04]: You know the thing is that

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_04]: I just I sometimes it's not linear

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_04]: The way the way that I search the shelf is not an linear fashion

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm kind of like jumping around and skipping sections

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_04]: It's very chaotic

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I get that

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_04]: So that's like that's a weakness that I know about

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Like if it was my killies heal

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Like I would just try my best to always read in a linear fashion

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Or look for things in a linear fashion

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Because I've looked by things a lot

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Same with the books like you're like trying to find the book

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_04]: And like I know it's in this aisle somewhere

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I've been that satisfaction

[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I guess that's the point I was trying to make

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_04]: There's like a major satisfaction

[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_04]: You finally put your hand on the sacred text that you were searching for

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_04]: It's still very asking for help, you know?

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, instead of asking for help, yeah, you do it alone

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Right, right, you climb that hill

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_04]: And then you flip the pages and you smell the aura of the book page

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Like in your end zone

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I haven't done that a really long time

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I was going to say

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I was going to say I was picturing that when you're talking about the energy of libraries

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I know

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_01]: If we were going to start this one off on libraries

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_01]: But never know which way this thing is going to go

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_04]: What's your favorite library in the Denver area

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Have you been to a lot of libraries?

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember which one it is

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_02]: But I know it's over there on federal

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_02]: But I have I feel like that is more nostalgic to me

[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_02]: That's because my when I was younger

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_02]: My grandma she's take me all the time

[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And I would do the summer reading competition read as many books

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_02]: You get like passes to Ela Ches or something

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Like headphones, cool stuff

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, that's more like just nostalgic to me

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_02]: But I wouldn't say there's like a specific favorite like right now

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Did you have to do a report on those summer reading books

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Like to prove that you hit X amount

[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Nope

[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_02]: You just had to have somebody sign off and you do my grandma

[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Because I was with their 20% and so

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Way to go, Graham

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_04]: She knew

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_04]: She knew

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe she added one or two extra

[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe, you know, possibly

[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_04]: But you didn't know about it

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_01]: The world I never know

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Just trying to do the summer program

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_04]: The world I never know

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_04]: So one library that I always thought looked cool from the outside

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_04]: But I never wouldn't inside of it is like the Denver public one

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Or it's like off a link in her Broadway

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, those two streets right there

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Like the whole facts

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I've never been in there

[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_04]: But it's like five stories

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Or something

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Have you been in there?

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_02]: No, I haven't

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_02]: We were going to go the other day

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I would be a fun one to go in and just go check out

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_04]: That's actually like a good, that's like a good date

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Idea

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Go to the mega library

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Like once your pass is shooting there

[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it would be cool

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Where is it up Lincoln?

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's like right there

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Near like

[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_04]: The capital

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like so far that

[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was picturing it for yourself

[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but that would be a good like once your pass

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Like because okay when you're dating

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I believe that it's more appropriate

[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_04]: The first couple dates should be like dinner dates

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, you know, like a dinner date type of thing

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Like that's a little more romantic

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_04]: So like once your pass the dinner date phase

[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_04]: The library would be a great date idea

[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_04]: So what I'm thinking right after the one

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like that could also be a good first day idea

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_02]: You're going for it

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah

[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I would you know how different it would be for somebody to ask you to book so as you get asked to dinner

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Twenty four seven

[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_02]: That's true

[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_02]: That's true

[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_02]: That's the lunch twenty two seven

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_02]: You get asked to drinks

[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Right, yeah, it's like somebody that makes you think intellectually about what

[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_02]: What that person's got going on

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like we're kind of like

[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_02]: You're different right

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, it's going to switch it up

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_01]: You're like how about no happier

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Meet me at the library

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Ah

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_01]: That's interesting

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_01]: See what they're really made of

[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I like that

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of like the same thing with music

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like you tell a lot of bioperson

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_02]: With the kind of music

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_02]: They're the biggest

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I guess that is kind of true

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't know if I've ever done a concert as a first date

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think I have

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if that's the best first date

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean it's like one of the movies

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Loud you can go to talk

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean the vibes good

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_01]: You can dance

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_01]: You can kind of have fun that way

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And then talk afterwards

[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Or before

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, maybe meet up for an appetizer

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't see concert being alright

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_04]: But then you're kind of taking a risk

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Like what if they don't like that music

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Right

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_04]: What if something like that

[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_04]: I guess they should say no to the date then

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but we know that goes in the beginning

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I'll just say yes

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, maybe you're trying to keep the mystery live

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_04]: You don't tell, you know

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey meet me here this time

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm going to come pick you up

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I feel like it all depends on what kind of romance you believe in

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_04]: That's true

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_04]: So how many types of like romances are there

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_04]: So there's definitely like the like authentic love one

[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, there's definitely like the lustful one

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_04]: What is there?

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_04]: There's like the like the protector like where like or like the insecure one

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Where you're trying to fill full from somebody else

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Making you feel fulfilled

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think that falls on a romance though?

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's even type of romance

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh no, I feel like romance is kind of a bad idea

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I'd say those are more I'd consider those roles

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, okay

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Like you're having having somebody fill a role

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_02]: For something that you need

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't consider that romance

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I would say if we were talking about romance

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_02]: There's like the regular old kind of love

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_02]: And then there's like hopeless romance that you see in the movies

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, yeah

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_02]: You know things like that

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_01]: The hopeless romance

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_01]: That's definitely contaminated some of the dating scene in modern society

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_01]: We've seen it

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you look at some of these you know these rom-coms and these Hollywood movies

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_01]: They've kind of like unrealistic things

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_01]: That I think people have then put expectations on themselves and others

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_01]: That is good

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, right

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean that's been my observation

[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm not saying it can't happen

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_01]: That you can't open up the door

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And there's rows and balloons flying around

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_01]: But the reality is people don't really want that

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm green

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean you got people breaking up

[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Weddings in these movies

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_04]: That's what I'm saying

[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_04]: You know that is not cool etiquette

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Like put it on the line

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Chase on the plane down the runway

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I do it

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_01]: It depends on the person

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Put it on the line before the wedding

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Unless you know that I don't know

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_01]: That that's going to seal the deal

[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean it's probably happened before

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_01]: But how many successful weddings do you think have been interrupted

[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And then the bride left the man behind

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Right, I mean it can't be that high-end

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I know it's not

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think that many

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think it's movies

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Right

[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_04]: But where is the shot?

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I guess sorry

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_01]: We are dropping the end of the movie

[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Movies and TV and music

[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And all that kind of stuff

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_01]: That's where it's kind of fun

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_01]: To find a little slice of originality

[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Taking a day to a library

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Which might be the answer

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_04]: You know a little coffee

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_04]: A little looking at some books

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm different

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that would be fun

[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think my girlfriend listens to this podcast

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm going to say this

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think she does.

[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_04]: And, uh...

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_04]: About the fine out of she does.

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Well no, so I just scheduled a date and like, you know,

[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I try to keep it mysterious in my cake.

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I got a date planned for us.

[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't really tell her what we're doing,

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_04]: but you let them know what's where.

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_04]: And I learned this with Kevin.

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, you're like, hey, we're doing this.

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_04]: But like, so there's someone prepared you like,

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_04]: tell them what they should wear.

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like this type of, this type of, you know,

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_04]: the tire as you would say.

[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_04]: But I got broke in on like a Facebook ad or something like that.

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_04]: And it was like the candle light concerts.

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Right? So you got all these candle light concerts and they got a classic rock candle light concert coming up this Saturday.

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm going to that.

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Is that coming up?

[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_02]: That's actually exciting, no.

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_04]: That's why you're not coming to my place for the race.

[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_04]: That's why I'm not coming.

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_04]: That's why I'm not coming out.

[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_04]: I always see what's going on.

[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_04]: I want to do it in the candle light concert 830 pm.

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's like, it's gonna be fun.

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so she doesn't know about yeah.

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_01]: That's why you're saying you hope she'll listen to this.

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think she does.

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, she'd have to watch.

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_01]: She's gonna listen this one time.

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I see my.

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_01]: She's gonna listen to it.

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_02]: She's gonna see my face and watch it.

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_02]: It just happened.

[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_04]: We got Denver's playboy in the building.

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_04]: We do got Denver's playboy now.

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Is that?

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Is that self-coin?

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_04]: That self-coin?

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Did somebody give you that?

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_02]: So actually, no, it's not self-coin.

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_04]: No.

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_04]: See, that's respect then.

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you don't have to get too much in.

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I think just, so I didn't start going out to the gate clubs in Denver until I was,

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it was either 19 or 20.

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_02]: And once I went, I just, I fell in love with it because it was just, it was so different

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_02]: for what I was used to.

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Because looking for rock, you know, I loved like the straight clubs and stuff.

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm a hip hop lover at the end of the day.

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_02]: So I love nice.

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Like straight clubs for that type of thing, like for hip hop.

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_02]: But like the energy and the way that I felt like, you know, I could be myself in a

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_02]: way club was unmasked.

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_02]: So I had like, I was going every week.

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I was meeting new people.

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm a social butterfly.

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Put me in a room with a van de random.

[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I will tell you all their names by the end of it.

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_04]: You remember names, too then?

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Depends.

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_04]: It depends on the night.

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Usually, I think most people can remember faces.

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_04]: But like, you really have to like do a little bit more extra brain work

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_04]: to put the name yet to, to remember.

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_04]: But I'll always remember the infamous Denver State where play

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_04]: was a boy.

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_04]: So how did that come about?

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_04]: How did this come about?

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_02]: So I just became a hot commodity, everybody.

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_02]: And then I ended up meeting one of my best friends there.

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_02]: And he originally had a crush on me and that's how.

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_02]: So he was like, you know, you're the finest guy I've ever seen.

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, oh, thanks, cool whatever.

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_02]: But I didn't seem like that.

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_02]: So he was like, oh, well, you're a player who is like, you just, you know,

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_02]: you just want attention.

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_02]: That's all you want.

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, that's not true.

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, I talked to everybody.

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not everyone.

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's just like either I, you know, I vibe with you in that way or

[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't.

[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_02]: And so that was just my thing is that he was like, oh, well, I'm going to call you playboy.

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_02]: And ever since then, it just stuck.

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And there was even people that I wouldn't know who would come up to me.

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_02]: He would hurt about me.

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how.

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And there would just be like, you're playboy, right?

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_02]: It was like, yeah.

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_04]: And you got, you got like the playboy you're in going on.

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no.

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I see.

[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I see.

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I like the whole right year how that's completely done to that fresh.

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you, thank you.

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I got just the one cardalitch, just the one cardalact.

[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I had this one I was like 17.

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Did yours bleed a lot?

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_04]: A little bit.

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_04]: And then I didn't wear it for like, I don't know.

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Like a good seven years or something.

[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_04]: And then I got out of my toxic relationships.

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I got out of my drug abuse and then I was like, dude, I got to get my flavor back.

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_04]: And so I put it back in.

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_04]: And then it did bleed when I was like sleeping in it because it had been so long since

[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, I'm right in that open round.

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_04]: So I'd let for a little bit right there but I will always remember that once I saw that on your profile,

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Denver's favorite playboy.

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, oh, we got to get different favorite playboy out of here.

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Or tell me, he's coming on a couple weeks.

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I was excited.

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I was getting excited for it.

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's good.

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like I said, I don't know.

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just a hot commodity.

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, well now you're on DC PC discussion combustion and you are also having

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_04]: a bunch of panorow mindset, right?

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_04]: So you're doing a couple things.

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Why don't you tell us about some of your business ventures like I know you're talking about the

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_04]: nonprofit earlier but you got other things in the works.

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_02]: So I am in school because I'm tall a G.

[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Currently finishing that off here soon.

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_02]: The end goal is to open my own salon.

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if that will be in Denver by the time I do it or if that will be somewhere

[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_02]: else but that is the main goal.

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Because eventually I wanted travel and do celebrity hair stuff like that.

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I had met, I don't know if you guys have ever watched the show Batties.

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_02]: If not, it's a very trending show.

[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_02]: It's on an app called Zeus Network.

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no things.

[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Have you guys ever heard of bad girls club?

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_04]: I've probably heard about it.

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I hosted a bad girl's club one time.

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Really?

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm fucking around.

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I was going to say, I'm crazy.

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Crazy.

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_02]: You're still here.

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Basically, reality TV.

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, cool.

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I met one of the girls from there at the overall mall actually.

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_02]: And she had told me that how did I just tag myself in her post?

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I could have done her hair that day for that meeting.

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_02]: So that just kind of like put a spark in me.

[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like I just need to put myself out there more.

[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_02]: And in January, I will be on one of the three main stages at a hair show in my

[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_02]: family.

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_02]: So, well, hair convention show for Latin hair stylist.

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_04]: That's awesome.

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_04]: What's your Latin heritage?

[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I'd just say more Hispanic, honestly.

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because my dad's head of the family is a smart guy.

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I'd say more Spanish than like not Mexican, not from Mexico, more Spanish.

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Because it's like even in America, like with all the different type of cultures that are

[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_04]: with in America, just alone.

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_04]: And North America, and the USA, I should say.

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_04]: But like, you know, because you have to Southern cultures, the north, there's all

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_04]: different type of cultures.

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_04]: And I've recently learned more about his Spanish cultures.

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_04]: And even how like Spanish, I spent all this spoken differently depending on which country

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_04]: speaks it.

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_04]: And so there's like all these different things.

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_04]: So that's why I asked it.

[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Because I was just kind of curious.

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_04]: I've been learning more about that.

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's crazy.

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_02]: It's all different kinds.

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_02]: And the crazy thing about me is I'm the oddball.

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't speak a lick of Spanish.

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, really?

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_02]: My grandma does, but she never decided to teach us so.

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so yeah, no oblast, but you know what, huh?

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I've only been learning for a little bit.

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_04]: You've been doing pretty good, I think.

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, almost a year I've been studying.

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_04]: One thing that I will say with like learning a language, at least for me, is like what

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_04]: helped is just trying to consider it.

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Like I know a bunch of slang terms for stuff.

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_04]: So it's like I'm just learning new slang for stuff I already know and that happens to be

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Espanol.

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_04]: So like that's one way looking at it.

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_04]: And then also it's a lot easier to like listen.

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_04]: And I like to like pick out words and then understand it.

[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_04]: But it's hard to like formulate and put this sentence together.

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so yeah.

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_04]: So when you're earlier for me, it leaves like I can understand more of it, but it's still

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_04]: harder for me to express it and ask me all.

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Because when it's coming out, you fast.

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes, when I know.

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_01]: When I went down to progress with Mexico, I thought I could hang with the locals.

[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, at least he's trying and you know, I gave him a best.

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, same with my girl because English is her second language.

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_04]: And so I would always speak like on our first dates, we're like using translator apps

[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_04]: and stuff and like so we've come a long way.

[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_04]: But if I speak too too fast, she'll be all like,

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_04]: shall we just shiver your shiver?

[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_04]: She'll be like, says that back to me like, I don't understand anything.

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_04]: You fucking say, talk of way too fast.

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I know she's getting pretty good though, I think.

[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah, hanging around us.

[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah, I would say for sure, would it help?

[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_01]: That's cool.

[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_04]: It's exhausting trying to translate them.

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Like you're like trying to translate into, you know, Spanish English and I don't know.

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_04]: It's opened up my mind though because once you start learning a new language,

[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_04]: he realized that there's like a lot of other languages and it's like a base language.

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_04]: So then there's like, oh, this actually similar between like Spanish and like French and Italian,

[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_04]: and they're all very similar.

[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of root words that are kind of based off with the same thing.

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's more the dialect, right?

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_01]: We have like learning English, they say so tough because we, I mean, the way we spell words,

[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_01]: we pronounce them, there's a dialects around the country, you know,

[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_01]: you get like a caging guy in the room, a New Yorker and like a cowboy, right?

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_01]: They all speak the same but there's all this little dialect that people have to learn.

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's right.

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And the same, go on the other way.

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_04]: I think you know, there's people that speak English, I don't understand what they're saying.

[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, there are those out there.

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_04]: This is beautiful.

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_01]: You get some buddies down there in the swamps that people will try to understand.

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, caging poke.

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_04]: It happens.

[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_04]: But so, so you said you give a clean fade.

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I do.

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_04]: A clean fade.

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Like a nice zero high and tight like, yes, all the different fades.

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm actually self taught with that.

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_02]: So because like I said, I'm doing cosmology, so they, so you're considered barber trained,

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_02]: not barber licensed.

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_02]: So they teach you the basics, how to give a regular fade, whatever, how to use use your scissors more than use clippers.

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I taught myself based off videos like YouTube videos.

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_02]: How to do a fade and I don't know, I just picked up really easy.

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_02]: But I say I'm better at women's hair.

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_02]: That's my thing.

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_02]: That's where I tap into my creativity.

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I can respect that.

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Like you're like, you know, I know a little bit about that but that's not where I want to focus my energy.

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I respect that.

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of my bar of rubbing going her for eight years and she only does men's hair.

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_01]: She knows how to do women's hair but kind of like your say she's like, I just kind of want to work on the guys here.

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's finally that niche I guess within the cosmotology world.

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And so it's just I also women is where the money is at.

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_02]: In that industry, you know?

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_04]: It is.

[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Women pay more for like soap.

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_04]: They like, and it's like usually less.

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Like there's like, okay, there's a lot of stuff that I consider satire.

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_04]: On the internet and in the world.

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I just don't believe it to be true, but there is like kind of this like woman tax, right?

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Like where they're, their razors are almost more expensive, but then they're not as good as like the Gillette.

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_04]: And then the girl like goes and just gets Gillette anyway.

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Like the men like the men's razor, you know?

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_04]: And like men's deodorant and all this stuff like I've seen women do this.

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I have to.

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm too.

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, yeah, like comparing prices to this stuff like.

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a huge market.

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, health and beauty commodities huge.

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone's coming out with a new product.

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_01]: It's free of this.

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_01]: There's no allergens in that like the system market for it.

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And we're constantly being sold.

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like on social media.

[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, definitely.

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_01]: The fact that we're talking about it now when I go scroll later, it's going to be all like, you know,

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_01]: man-scape products and mando and all that pop up.

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that I feel like that's probably where social media is kind of the best.

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_02]: It's the best marketing place.

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_02]: And when you're marketing yourself, it's the best tool.

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Do you feel like it's been good for you to, oh, definitely.

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, definitely.

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_02]: More than anything else.

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I've gotten so many clients just from Instagram.

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I have Brandon people who would just hit me up.

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how they found me at all.

[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't, you know, boost my poster anything and they just, the hook me up like, hey,

[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_02]: wanted to know if you could do this in this and I'm like, yeah, of course.

[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Nice.

[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_01]: That's interesting.

[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Without any soul promotion.

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_02]: They come to you.

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know for a while, while I was in COVID.

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I was in my influencer era trying to be, you know,

[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_02]: influencer slash hair stylist.

[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_02]: So I feel like it just kind of works for me.

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Now I have my main page that's very, you know,

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_02]: center towards me and being a public figure in my city type thing.

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_02]: And then my hair page, which I just, you know, feed off of that.

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_04]: So now when when you're an influencer,

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_04]: do you share the bad times too?

[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Like is it, is that part of it or is that like, is that like not good to do?

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like, I feel like it is because it makes you more relatable.

[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's one thing I always say about myself.

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I can come sensitive, comment whatever you want to call it.

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm very tapped in with my emotions.

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I've been through a lot in my life the way I grew up things that I've been through like trauma.

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I've done my work in therapy.

[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_02]: So I think sharing the bad things is what helps you relate to people.

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_04]: I grew with that but then I've heard like that some people,

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_04]: but like, yeah, like if you have a product like a deal,

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_04]: then they don't want that type of, they want to button down.

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_04]: They want a certain image out of that, like sponsorship.

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is unfortunate.

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that.

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_01]: John Bates said the best, right?

[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_01]: People relate more to your message than they will your milestones.

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_01]: No, you're message.

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_01]: You're message.

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_04]: They relate with your message more than your message.

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Then you're message.

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_04]: So it's true.

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_04]: It is good to talk about, you know, because it's not easy for everyone.

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_04]: And like we all, everyone stumbles and like it's in a scrapes along the way.

[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You should be able to mention that.

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a good point when it comes to the optimizers because we really only see the good times.

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_01]: For the most part, you know, when we consider these huge millions of followers and influencers.

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_01]: They're not really on their time by, hey, you know,

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Card at stolen or I'm feeling down there if you want to drink whatever.

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't see a ton of that.

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like if we saw more of that, I feel like, you know,

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_01]: people would be a little bit more apt and not constantly feel like they have to put their best

[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_01]: foot forward on social media all the time.

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's mostly being judged.

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_01]: It's okay to slip, you know, that kind of stuff.

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Normalizing that is what I'd like to see more of.

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Same here.

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's why I feel like, you know, if you don't, I mean, what are you really using your platform for?

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_02]: If you're willing to sign yourself out for a brand deal that wants you to hide those kind of things.

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, what is it all really worth it for?

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_02]: At least that's how I see it.

[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be like the likes and money, you know.

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And then you just get caught up in that lifestyle.

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_01]: You basically plan a character at that point.

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And that even ties in with like how I do her.

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_02]: People always ask me, like, are you in there for them?

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like the money's cool.

[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Don't get me wrong.

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Of course.

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Like who doesn't want money?

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_02]: But at the same time it's an necessity.

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_02]: But at the same time, I've always told this people from day one that the reason I want to do

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_02]: her is because I want people to see that as well as I'm doing your outer beauty and helping

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_02]: you fix that there's also something in you that, you know, is beautiful too.

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_02]: You didn't come in here to get beautiful.

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_02]: You were beautiful before we're just enhancing your looks.

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_04]: And like to get paid to do something that you love, that's a dream.

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, another thing to do something that you love, you still got to do things

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_04]: that you don't want to do.

[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's just part of it.

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_04]: That's just how life makes it.

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Like we love this part recording and this and that.

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_04]: But like everything else like putting it together, making sure that it hits right, you know,

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_04]: overcoming this obstacle doing that.

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Like there's a lot that goes behind any project with whether if it's like, you know, for beauty or

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_04]: for like this type of production that we're doing here.

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Like there's always a lot behind the scenes that people don't see with the finish product.

[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like that just comes down to like how bad do you really want something?

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_01]: That's true and just sticking with it and not letting out.

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's always going to be noise people are going to hate your haters.

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_01]: There was going to be lined up.

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Someone's going to have something negative to say, but you know, you're going to let that

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_01]: get you off the mission.

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's the biggest thing.

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of people struggle with that, you know, reading comments getting negative feedback.

[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Things like that can really derail someone's motivation.

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And right.

[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_01]: See a ton of sure.

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, so ignore the noise.

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess it's time for a to say and just go out and get it done.

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_02]: These are and them done.

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_02]: And the better you fill honestly.

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just like you said there's always going to be somebody who has something negative to say.

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_02]: It's always going to be tip for tower who's doing this.

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_02]: They're always somebody to be out there who you believe is better than you.

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_02]: But doesn't mean that you can't reach both potential.

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_02]: You have to work hard enough at it.

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Yep.

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_04]: It's true.

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's like, you know, everyone has their own route.

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_04]: So I guess that's one of the important things that will help you free yourself is like

[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_04]: you stop comparing your life to others and like it's cool to have like a milestone.

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Like what you're kind of talking about.

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Have somebody to look up to.

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Somebody that like motivates you.

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_04]: That's okay.

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_04]: But like to be like comparing, oh, they got this and I don't like.

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's such a fine line for me being motivated by someone's actions to being like,

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_04]: oh man they got things that I don't got.

[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't have that.

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, like that's so easy to like get it twisted.

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_04]: So you really got to be careful when you're like, you know, working on yourself,

[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_04]: which we all need to do like honestly either you're working on yourself and doing something

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_04]: or you're like basically fucking off and like letting life happen.

[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Like it's one of the other kind of chicken the box.

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_02]: And even I would even say that maybe my goal isn't my inspiration.

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I'd say my inspiration is based off of the people that came before me.

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_02]: First much as I've been through, my family is my everything.

[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_02]: My mom has worked so hard to, you know, be the strong and poor woman that she is.

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_02]: And you know, I couldn't thank her enough.

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_02]: She's taught many things that nobody else could in the same goes for my dad.

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I want to be able to give him a lifestyle that he's never got because of things that

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_02]: was the same thing with my mom.

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Things that made her feel like she wasn't where she needed to be.

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Things like that.

[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want the people around me to feel like that.

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I want everybody around me and my circle to move up.

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Like things can get better.

[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I love that.

[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_01]: You feel like you're kind of carrying a torch now like it's on you carry this load and drive it home for the family.

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't call it a load, but yeah definitely.

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_01]: For her.

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm excited.

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_04]: That's good.

[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_04]: That's good.

[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you know, that kind of,

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_04]: it's important to like recognize it.

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_04]: And then sometimes when you're like in the mix making shit happen,

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_04]: like that becomes the norm and through a bit you do things habitually.

[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, you know, it kind of can lose its,

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Magnificence in a certain sense because you become so used to it.

[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_04]: So like it's like, it's good to remind yourself.

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Like sometimes all thing about like if I'm, if I feel dull where I'm at now,

[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just like do look remember how dull you were like five years ago when you were on mixed up cars,

[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_04]: re-boat and all that bad stuff.

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Actually today's pretty good day, you know,

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_04]: and I'm just not, I'm not appreciative for some reason right now.

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like that comes from expectations everybody expects good days to be great days.

[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_02]: You can't have great days every day.

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_02]: That's just unrealistic.

[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_02]: That is true.

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_02]: But every step forward is growth.

[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_02]: And if you can acknowledge that, I mean no matter how far you go,

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_02]: you're going to, your bound to go back into the past and be like,

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_02]: why I'm not where I thought I would want it be.

[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_02]: But are you where you were?

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I grew up that, yeah, it's a powerful mindset.

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you feel like people come to you for like positive advice?

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you have like that toxic positivity?

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Were we talking about last week?

[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, definitely.

[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I do.

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a blessing in a curse because,

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, with the way I grew up, I was kind of given the Golden Child type of role in my family.

[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_02]: So everything was on me.

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I'm the middle child.

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I have a younger brother and an older brother.

[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, as of what that, having that golden child,

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I was always expected to do right, you know?

[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Not because it was the right thing, almost.

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_02]: It was more just like, we need you to be the one that, you know, changes things.

[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_02]: And so, whereas I appreciated that, also didn't feel good.

[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I felt like for a while there I did,

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_02]: based a circle of my friends where people who were kind of emotional vampires

[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_02]: who needed someone to feed off of and that person would be me.

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I let it go on for so long because I used to be a people pleaser

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_02]: and I was, yes, man, to everything I never said no, I never helped my boundaries.

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_04]: So I feel good to give a risk, like you're not being disrespectful.

[00:34:23] [SPEAKER_04]: But you just give like a good firm power of no.

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no.

[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Surprisingly, I've only been doing that for about a year.

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm very proud of how far I've came.

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Feels good, don't it?

[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I've got rid of so many people.

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I've been telling everybody that I talk to recently.

[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I'm kind of in my soft boy era.

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_04]: I just want to be in soft boy era.

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, just, you know,

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_02]: just kind of out the mix for a little bit.

[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm just in my grind, not focused on anything.

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, even the party life, but that's not me anymore.

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_02]: That's all I just don't.

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Right?

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I told them.

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I just feel things changing for me.

[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like weird because I'm so used to one thing.

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_02]: But now it's like I feel like I'm entering a new place.

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, it's like, the cycle's ending.

[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_04]: And so like, I know you know this kind of because I've beat you to death with this

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_04]: and he read the book too, but the power of now it explains that, you know, as a human,

[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_04]: we have our conscious and then with that comes like an ego.

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_04]: And like our ego, we got to look at like it's like a third party in our head.

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Right?

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_04]: And our ego wants to identify as something.

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, who are we?

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_04]: What are we?

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_04]: What's my ego?

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Why?

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_04]: And so when cycles end and there's always all these different cycles,

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_04]: even like, you know, with the seasons and stuff, there's always different cycles.

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Your ego gets attached to a certain cycle and identifies yourself with that cycle.

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_04]: And sometimes when people are depressed, it's because a cycle has ended.

[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Their ego still identifies with that old cycle, which no longer exists.

[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_04]: And then now they feel out of place because they haven't been able to like redefine who they're becoming.

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_04]: And one thing that's inherent is like changes inevitable.

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's for us too, like people are always growing in developing and becoming a different person.

[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_04]: So like, that's the whole, that's like my little thing on ego.

[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Like a little tidbit of information I learned in a book that was really useful because then, you know,

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_04]: if I feel stuck on something, I'm like, you know, what am I feeling attached to that like is no longer around.

[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Like maybe it's an ex, maybe it's like an old hobby, you know, something.

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_01]: For me to be drinking, giving a whos, that was such a part of my life for so long.

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Like a part of my character, you know, kind of redneck cowboy,

[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_01]: NASCAR guy drinking beer, which just became who I was for so long.

[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_01]: That had to break those ties and do it for reasons, right?

[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Now live up to that. Well where's the beer at? Where's the beer drink guy getting out of that cycle?

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm still in it. I'm still trying to get out of that cycle.

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Right, yeah, I feel like for me honestly, I'm considering it like an ego death, honestly.

[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Because I feel like far a while, I became a mean kind of person, not intentionally.

[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think out of trying to prove myself to other people for so long because I didn't believe that you know,

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I could be capable of good things that I became this person who was trying so hard to prove

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_02]: To be something that I truly wasn't and I've never been that kind of person that I would like,

[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I can admit that like, you know, I put people down in order to feel better about myself.

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's why I think this whole new season has just been me kind of into kind of realize like that's not who we are.

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_02]: And it made me feel like, yeah. Like it's such because like it made me feel like so ashamed.

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Because again, I've never intentionally been that person. It was never that I thought less of anybody.

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_02]: It was just that I couldn't get a control on how I felt about myself.

[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_01]: So you kind of put some walls up maybe? Yeah.

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's like an unnatural defensive thing that we do though.

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Human psychology were like, okay, you know, I got back away from this, got to tighten up.

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to allow any of this negativity around me anymore. Just whatever it is. I mean, just the power of no I think it could be a blessing in a curse as well, right?

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Because maybe you're saying no to an opportunity or you're saying no to something that truly is going to bring negativity to you.

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, that's a tough balance there. I think everyone's going to go through at different times.

[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but it has been like a cool experience. I've just been noticing little things change.

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I just don't want to be a person that carries hate around in my heart anymore.

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_02]: That's good.

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_02]: There's no need for that. I want to be a leader and want anybody who's around me who can talk to me, see that you have potential too.

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_02]: There's so many great things about yourself that you don't even realize.

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_02]: And that comes from something that my dad has always told me. He was like, you know, you were a sperm.

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_02]: And you know how many others sperm cells? You be in that race to get the egg.

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_02]: We're meant to be here. You have a purpose. You matter and like that's another thing suicide awareness. That's another big thing for me.

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I have this tattoo on my arm. It says victory and it has.

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Hold that up a little bit more. Oh yeah.

[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_04]: There it is.

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and me and my dad both got it because we both suffered with self harm and things like that.

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_02]: And I got it right there where I used to do it because I just wanted to claim that over my life that I, you know,

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't going to fall short to that anymore. That's again, not who I am.

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I overcame that, that is something that I won. I battled and I won the fight.

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and it's one of those things too, like regardless of what kind of self harm you're doing to yourself.

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_04]: It could be eating bad, you know, not having a good health, like getting in toxic relationships, substance abuse, the list goes on.

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_04]: But like to actually overcome some of that stuff, it's like you really got a like what you're talking about.

[00:39:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Slow it down a little bit. Like, you know, take some time yourself.

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Like start to eliminate the noise around you. Like where your influence is coming from.

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_04]: What am I feeding my brain? What's perpetuating the negative shit that I want out and by recognizing that you can see potential good things to let in.

[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Right. You know, and then it's interesting because like if you're used to going out and parting or something and you're always out and there's like that thrill.

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Like what are we doing this weekend? And then all of a sudden you're just chilling for like three months.

[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Dude, I'm not doing anything on these weekends.

[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Right. Like kind of going to this like recluse mood.

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_04]: But I guess it's hard to like encapsulate in one statement as far as like why that's important.

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Because you need to like get in your own headspace and be able to be in your own thoughts without needing to like have the external input.

[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_04]: So once you can actually just sit with your own thoughts and like really start to love who you are,

[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_04]: love how you think, love how you try to help people, love how you get through struggles.

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_04]: And you have that self love like that's when the healing started for me.

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Like once I really started appreciating myself for who I was and who I was becoming, you know.

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_04]: And then kind of like how you're saying how you've had that responsibility a little bit.

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Like you know then you start carrying the torch not only for yourself but like when your light is shining bright like you lead the way for other people in the darkness.

[00:41:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Right. You know and that's almost just something that happens without intent.

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Like that's just something that happens when you're doing that self work.

[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Right it's just natural.

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And some people don't get there, you know I mean it I would say until my late 20s or late 30s before I want to start tighten up you know and taking a look at what I was doing.

[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Self destructing you know I was full hate just angry a lot of the time you know it but for me it was later in life you know.

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's always a fresh into here is some of these younger folks that come in and share like hey you know I want to do better.

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to be tightened up a bit I'm not going to do the part in and put a lot of that you know down.

[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_01]: That's that's refreshing to hear because there's a lot of it out there and it's easy to get caught it's easier to go that route.

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Put it that way it's easier to just turn your hands up and say I'm just going to get hammered I'm just going to check the boxes this is good enough.

[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_01]: You know this is good enough I mean that's where a lot of people end up falling unfortunately.

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's good for you you know great but you know we got to have some leaders out there.

[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah definitely.

[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I have some of that you know that health energy is a leader mentality.

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah sure.

[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_04]: You got to lead the pack by just doing it and like not talking about shit too much.

[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I just do it.

[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_04]: That's one thing too that like I've kind of learned because I always used to be like oh I'm doing this I'm doing that and I got all these goals and like you know.

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Flashing the pan none of that shit happened what's that make me look like somebody who can't commit you know someone someone who just talks big doesn't do shit.

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_04]: You know so like when you really kind of get dialed in into the into like your your focus mode it's almost like you don't need to tell anybody because first of all you're good and you're on thoughts like you appreciate yourself.

[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_04]: You got that self love.

[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_04]: You're not pretty.

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah you don't need the compliments right and then you just get after it.

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_02]: And even I mean I think back like back to what you said how most younger people just throw in the towel and they're like oh yeah.

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like a lot of that comes from a victim mentality you know like whereas I do like I said I am a sensitive person I could tap into my emotions.

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't believe that everything should be a reason why you can't do something because just as much as there's a reason why you can't there is a reason on why you should.

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Like for every.

[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Every season there should be a reason I feel like yeah.

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_01]: That's good that's a solution based mindset rather than excuse right because there's always excuses everything is an excuse all the more in days.

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Lost my job bad relationship is always excuses right and the easiest thing to do is just throw in the towel I've been there.

[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_01]: It's easy poor me poor my stuff for me, you know I'm just gonna get drunk tonight and just feel sorry for myself and be mad at the world.

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Been there I see it a lot of people are stuck there and it's unfortunate because everyone has so many great potentials and they're just not unlocking their potential.

[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully we can get out of slice of that here at this spot gets one of our missions is just to normalize it.

[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_01]: You know bring some attention to it and have people share experiences as to why it's benefited their life and lifted them up into a positive light.

[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I need more of it.

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I agree.

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a part of it.

[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Like you said with the leader I feel like that's even more of a reason because you've been through something.

[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_02]: There is a reason for you to like you said be a leader help somebody else out give out the helping hand.

[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_02]: You know exactly what it feels like to go through that so then why would you stay stuck in that same hole instead of trying to do what you can even if it's something minimal.

[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_02]: To help somebody else maybe in a future generation get out of that.

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_04]: That's true and being and bringing being brutally honest with myself and others has also been like a key that unlocked a door that is like a beautiful existence.

[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Because like first of all I don't have to remember many things that I say because like it's all the same shit I'm being honest and then also you know I've been open like with the opiate stuff for like you know honestly I was thinking about it and I was like I was afraid of responsibility when I was doing drugs.

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Like I was afraid of responsibility.

[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah I was trying to just I ignored bills and like tank my credit like I was didn't want to be responsible for some reason.

[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_04]: And because being responsible and handling business like you know like if I fucking let my license plate expire then you know it's going to be a lot longer of a process for me to get it reinstated and more money with the fees than if I just did it on time.

[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_04]: And even though I knew it was coming due like I would still like push it off.

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_04]: So it's living like there's no tomorrow being stupid.

[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_04]: And like I was like that for a long time you know and so being honest about that that I was stupid like that that's like a power to me now because it's like yeah no I was stupid or yeah I did start taking you know the hymns anti hormone blocker because I was losing my hair.

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_04]: And I didn't want to own it yet so then I got on the hormone blocker so then hopefully I wouldn't lose myself because I'm insecure about it and just saying something like that just putting it out there and being truthful.

[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Like it's almost like you like break the weight and chains of right like I'm just I'm just saying how I feel exactly how my emotions are I'm not hiding nothing.

[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_04]: And I then like I care what my peers think I obviously respect people's opinions but like deep down it's like I don't really care what people think you know but that's a fine line too.

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Because you still want to care you still want to show empathy but at the same time like you know I'm not going to let this person's opinion like change my energy.

[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Right yeah yeah.

[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Like constantly getting thrown that I think there's a week three now I'm going to coin hashtag confident vulnerability right because that's really what it's turned into is being able to own these kind of things and have those kind of like.

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Most people don't it's uncomfortable for a lot of people to talk about things that maybe they struggle with or whatever normalizing that I think is strength.

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Right and I can power others like you were saying to my help generation down the road or whoever might help someone that just needs to tune in here but confident vulnerability we need more of it.

[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Right and like that when I feel like if you're vulnerable about the things that you've been there also helps you for a late to you.

[00:47:10] [SPEAKER_02]: You know uptight and no have to be a man boys don't cry being like that it's not going to get you anywhere.

[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah they made that may get you some kudos at the jam or you know nice truck my guy but when you're getting to know something like if you're getting married what woman is going to want somebody who can't have a man who's going to open up to her.

[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Like everybody needs a little bit of something it doesn't all need to be one strict way and that's what I feel like like in today's society with everything in the LGBTQ community.

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_02]: You know man and women there's too many stipulations on what everybody should be doing instead of just understanding that we're all broken people just trying to find our way.

[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah I could agree with that. That's pretty well said and there's one thing you know I think that pretty much everyone can agree in like relationship wise and it is like in sexual polarity and things like that is a masculine and feminine energy.

[00:48:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And there's so many men and women per se but like that kind of balance of feminine and masculine energy I feel like kind of has to exist to have that polarity in that sexual attraction would you agree with that?

[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah definitely.

[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's where a lot of people get stuck up with you know aren't they get hung up on you know a gender role per se like you got to be the tough guy all the time that's masculine that's helpful that's not necessarily true.

[00:48:23] [SPEAKER_01]: But there still is that counter balancing feminine and masculinity right across no matter what trans gay straight you name it like I feel like you have to have that kind of polarity for it to work for balance the.

[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah yeah.

[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah if you get to people that you know can't make any decisions together like because because you know like what are we going to go eat I don't know if I'm going to go eat how many people how many relationships has that frustrated and there's a right now it's happening right now and it's just somebody just needs to make that decision.

[00:48:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And I don't know I feel like that's kind of like a guy's like role like the mass of the role is going to take the decision like hey I'm going to be the leader but you know.

[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Going to what you're saying like everyone's going through some bullshit and like there's all these perceptions on how people should be and I think that's all just like.

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Like society like it's kind of it's kind of BS and like I've said this before in the past but like and I've unlocked this myself through trial and error, but I make up my own rules to like what I feel is the right stuff to be and to be a good human.

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Like of course I have a lot of great influences I've learned things like by reading like I didn't come up with this by myself but like we can all make up our own rules to like what is the norm.

[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Like you know the whole getting married going to college like that whole lifestyle and that path so many people think that that's like the way to live and then when you do differently yeah and it's like oh, you know so it's like well who's who's telling us.

[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_01]: That this is the way to live who's the designer like why where's this coming from and you know it comes from media comes from always different areas assimilation yeah we've been kind of programmed socially conditioned.

[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Between the movies like we talked about earlier to the propaganda we see on the news every day people are held to a standard that they're not even you know they're going off with someone else's standard is and identify what their own is I feel like.

[00:50:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I think I think I play guitar in piano and I write music.

[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_02]: That was the big thing for me when I was younger I mean it still is here and there I still play guitar I still could play piano if I had a new keyboard but I haven't went to go get one.

[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah music was a big thing for me when I was growing up I did musical theater all four years of high school.

[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_02]: That was kind of my thing choir just I performed talent shows whenever I could whenever I had the chance okay and so you just go belt it out like you got a pretty good big voice.

[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah I'd like to think so.

[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. I did have to turn down the EQ and volume on this mic so you know I can agree with that.

[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty funny now did you learn keys before guitar or guitar first keys okay I wish I would down that way.

[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm guitar player and then now I'm trying I'm not actively trying to learn keys but I want to because I feel like that's the best way to write music.

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah that's how you make music.

[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_04]: You need to play the piano then you could get a synthesizer or everything from there.

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_01]: You went keys and then guitar so it probably made more sense to other keys.

[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah and it was easier oh geez.

[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_02]: It was easier for me when you have to learn how to use your fingers on a guitar whereas you already kind of know how to do it when you're using both hands.

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah you're kind of limber on the piano or keyboard.

[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_04]: So you have some music out somewhere?

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_02]: It's all hidden at the moment.

[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_04]: It's all like I'm the same.

[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm the same.

[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_04]: I have a bunch of tracks and I've been thinking about starting a Spotify and throwing up all the old shit.

[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_04]: It's probably been five years since I've recorded anything but there's still a bunch of stuff out there that is not well stuff that is not out there.

[00:52:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I should say so.

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah it's recorded.

[00:52:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know my whole purpose.

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know my whole purpose.

[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I should just put it out to give it to the world already.

[00:52:22] [SPEAKER_04]: I think so.

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I should just say it but I just haven't got there yet.

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean you've got to be organized like people think oh it's easy.

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I go to Spotify and find this music but like really you've got to have all your ducks in a row and when you're putting it out there and making sure that it sounds good.

[00:52:37] [SPEAKER_04]: It is leveled out with the other stuff out there.

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Do I have copyrights?

[00:52:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Is this song something that I sampled that I shouldn't have a profit?

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_04]: There's a lot that goes in the graphic for the song.

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_04]: And then you're out there promoting it.

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_04]: It takes time.

[00:52:53] [SPEAKER_04]: That's why.

[00:52:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because just getting it out there's one thing and now people have to find it.

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I mean there's what?

[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Billions of songs on Spotify.

[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah 10.

[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, same with the podcast.

[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Like it's such a saturated market.

[00:53:02] [SPEAKER_01]: We've been in at five and a half years now and it's still a battle to find new listeners.

[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Just because we've been around and we have X amount of episodes.

[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean people are just going to go oh yeah.

[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_02]: That is one thing I will say.

[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I've seen so many people who have come up with their music and gotten huge.

[00:53:18] [SPEAKER_02]: It may not be huge as like whatever everybody normalizes.

[00:53:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Like you know, Cardi B Drake all that.

[00:53:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Not as big as that but they've gained a lot of streamers and fans from just things like TikTok.

[00:53:30] [SPEAKER_02]: True.

[00:53:31] [SPEAKER_02]: You never know who's listening.

[00:53:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like that's probably the best thing about the search.

[00:53:36] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the best approach for sure.

[00:53:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't matter one person or millions listening.

[00:53:40] [SPEAKER_01]: One person can change the game for sure.

[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:53:42] [SPEAKER_01]: How do you feel about TikTok?

[00:53:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think it's uh...

[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I have mixed feelings about TikTok.

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not on it so I have no assumption with it.

[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like it's a good...

[00:53:52] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a good marketing app.

[00:53:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I will say that like I said because you got to think you're flooded with videos.

[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_02]: People are just scrolling every two seconds.

[00:54:01] [SPEAKER_02]: As long as your stuff is good enough,

[00:54:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean as long as I'd say at least five people watch it,

[00:54:06] [SPEAKER_02]: you're bound to get some attention.

[00:54:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm curious to see what they're going to happen with this band because it looks like it's going to go through.

[00:54:11] [SPEAKER_01]: So the conditions were that they had to sell it.

[00:54:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I think bit might or something as the company that owns it.

[00:54:16] [SPEAKER_01]: They had to sell it by the end of this year.

[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_01]: By 1231, so they still have time.

[00:54:20] [SPEAKER_01]: If they don't, it's band in America come January.

[00:54:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just curious to see what that's going to do to people.

[00:54:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Right? Because of me in TikTok is just a part of everything.

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_01]: People are sending me videos all the time.

[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_01]: People are constantly scrolling at the elevator.

[00:54:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Like what's going to happen if that goes away?

[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I think people are going to go crazy on this thing.

[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I'm saying.

[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_02]: It's become such a big thing.

[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_02]: You take that way, even.

[00:54:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Like Instagram because I mean Instagram face book,

[00:54:43] [SPEAKER_02]: they have brills and stuff.

[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_02]: But it will never just get as much time as it makes a button.

[00:54:46] [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I've learned.

[00:54:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

[00:54:48] [SPEAKER_01]: The money comes from TikTok.

[00:54:49] [SPEAKER_01]: That's where those guys are making.

[00:54:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Instagram Reels.

[00:54:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's 3,000,000 followers.

[00:54:52] [SPEAKER_01]: They're only making pennies on the dollar.

[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_04]: We've had people with legit that we talk to about, like, you know,

[00:54:58] [SPEAKER_04]: because we're creators.

[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_04]: We talk to creators.

[00:55:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, we brainstorm on this.

[00:55:02] [SPEAKER_04]: And so like, and also beyond that,

[00:55:04] [SPEAKER_04]: like, I feel like the Reels and the shit that comes up in my Facebook feed.

[00:55:09] [SPEAKER_04]: It's trash.

[00:55:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:55:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Way worse than the TikTok stuff.

[00:55:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Interesting.

[00:55:13] [SPEAKER_04]: And look, I get it.

[00:55:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, it's all propaganda.

[00:55:16] [SPEAKER_04]: And like Facebook, Instagram, that's United States,

[00:55:19] [SPEAKER_04]: propaganda everywhere else in the world.

[00:55:21] [SPEAKER_04]: And we just happen to be getting some Chinese propaganda.

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_04]: And they're all upset about it.

[00:55:25] [SPEAKER_04]: But like, the thing about it is like,

[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like the propaganda that I'm getting from the TikTok

[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Chinese app is not as bad as what I'm seeing on Facebook

[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_04]: or like, it's not as meaningless.

[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_04]: But I'm also trying to intentionally like,

[00:55:38] [SPEAKER_04]: input into that algorithm.

[00:55:40] [SPEAKER_04]: And I do want Facebook though, too.

[00:55:42] [SPEAKER_04]: But that's been one thing that I was kind of thinking about over the last week

[00:55:45] [SPEAKER_04]: because it's just like, why are the United States apps

[00:55:49] [SPEAKER_04]: sending me stupider more stuff that really is meaningless

[00:55:54] [SPEAKER_04]: compared to like the TikTok.

[00:55:56] [SPEAKER_04]: It's giving me more substance.

[00:55:58] [SPEAKER_04]: So that was a little like, I'm like, what's going on with that?

[00:56:01] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, here's food for thought.

[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Have you ever thought about the school system?

[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Have you ever noticed that the school system

[00:56:09] [SPEAKER_02]: is the same as the jail system?

[00:56:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_02]: You got a class when there's a bell.

[00:56:15] [SPEAKER_02]: You stay in there, you're not allowed to leave.

[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_02]: You eat when we tell you you're going to eat.

[00:56:18] [SPEAKER_02]: You go back.

[00:56:20] [SPEAKER_02]: You go, you know, you finish all the way through.

[00:56:23] [SPEAKER_02]: You get your time.

[00:56:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Right, yeah.

[00:56:26] [SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy how conditioned we are to certain things.

[00:56:29] [SPEAKER_01]: That is a good point.

[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And the food is probably when monks of the same system

[00:56:32] [SPEAKER_01]: as well.

[00:56:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just kidding who's cool food is so good.

[00:56:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was a one I win.

[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think it ever has been, yeah.

[00:56:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[00:56:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I never had city food.

[00:56:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I was going to come small town boy.

[00:56:41] [SPEAKER_01]: So we get like, you know, occasional peach collar and stuff like that.

[00:56:44] [SPEAKER_01]: But it was still school food.

[00:56:45] [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't that good.

[00:56:47] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, the bag milk.

[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Remember the bag milk?

[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh-huh.

[00:56:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Stick it in there.

[00:56:51] [SPEAKER_04]: So, why do you bring up that dissimilarity for that?

[00:56:55] [SPEAKER_04]: What's what we're doing with that?

[00:56:56] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just, like when you talk about why is TikTok becomes such a big thing.

[00:57:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like that's probably why.

[00:57:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Because Instagram, Facebook, more Americanized companies.

[00:57:09] [SPEAKER_02]: It's very one-chrik pony, you know?

[00:57:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Or I'd say two-chrik pony actually.

[00:57:15] [SPEAKER_02]: You're either on this side or this side.

[00:57:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Whereas TikTok, you don't really got too much of that.

[00:57:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, unless people are intentionally, you know, putting their opinions on certain things

[00:57:23] [SPEAKER_02]: and making certain videos.

[00:57:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh.

[00:57:25] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, at least TikTok, you have a certain type of people,

[00:57:29] [SPEAKER_02]: especially the newer generation.

[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_02]: They're all over TikTok.

[00:57:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Where I feel like in that sense, they allow people's opinion more.

[00:57:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Whereas older generations who use Instagram and Facebook.

[00:57:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Things like that are very more one-sided.

[00:57:44] [SPEAKER_04]: That's so interesting, like the older generations are using Facebook.

[00:57:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I remember when Facebook was brand new in 2008.

[00:57:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Like when it became maybe that's why.

[00:57:51] [SPEAKER_04]: And then, like, my space, like just my space.

[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, work really for myself a bit.

[00:57:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, hi to my space.

[00:57:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's okay.

[00:57:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we made it.

[00:57:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought I was cool when I had my space.

[00:57:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I thought it was cool too.

[00:58:00] [SPEAKER_04]: You had your entry in the book?

[00:58:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you had a profile song?

[00:58:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I think mine was like, I don't remember, finger 11 maybe.

[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_04]: But like, look, you know, here's the thing.

[00:58:10] [SPEAKER_04]: And like why people get upset that China's spying on us.

[00:58:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, they already get balloons flying out over here and stuff.

[00:58:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, you know, and then, but we're spying everywhere else.

[00:58:21] [SPEAKER_04]: We don't like Facebook and Starlink.

[00:58:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, we're not spying on the other whole world.

[00:58:25] [SPEAKER_01]: They might try to jump off that way, but the reality is they're...

[00:58:28] [SPEAKER_01]: People are making a lot of money on TikTok.

[00:58:30] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what we've been saying.

[00:58:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, guys are making two, three grand a week just by making cooking videos and simple things.

[00:58:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of this, you know, is just pocket money.

[00:58:37] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, government wants a piece of it.

[00:58:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's ultimately what's the...

[00:58:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:58:40] [SPEAKER_01]: It's the taxing of it.

[00:58:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And there's really no way to do it because it's a free market, so it's a unique.

[00:58:44] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a Chinese company.

[00:58:45] [SPEAKER_01]: So America can't get their hands on any sort of tax revenue from it.

[00:58:49] [SPEAKER_01]: That would be the motivation.

[00:58:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I think about that.

[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I have even seen the craziness that there's people who just do AI lives.

[00:58:56] [SPEAKER_02]: They pretend they're AI characters and you get gifted.

[00:59:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, like, there's a girl.

[00:59:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Really?

[00:59:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they make these...

[00:59:05] [SPEAKER_02]: That's really in there.

[00:59:06] [SPEAKER_04]: It's good to hear you out there.

[00:59:08] [SPEAKER_04]: And when you're selecting your character, they're like,

[00:59:11] [SPEAKER_04]: they're like, kind of just doing this one motion.

[00:59:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Just look at it and see, like, this is like, they're still a motion.

[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's a lot of...

[00:59:18] [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of amazing things on Twitter.

[00:59:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll take talk lives.

[00:59:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, AI has created a lot of...

[00:59:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Apparently, it's created a market for people who pretend they are AI.

[00:59:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like, where's this thing end?

[00:59:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:59:28] [SPEAKER_01]: It's here.

[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_04]: AI is here.

[00:59:31] [SPEAKER_01]: SkyNet is active.

[00:59:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Cyberdiene systems.

[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_04]: It's happening.

[00:59:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, look, when I was growing up,

[00:59:36] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm living in the future now.

[00:59:38] [SPEAKER_04]: The only thing that isn't around is the flying cars.

[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_04]: They're coming.

[00:59:43] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you know, the Elon Musk is working on it.

[00:59:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, do you can't regulate the traffic and stuff?

[00:59:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Like how they're going to do that?

[00:59:48] [SPEAKER_04]: They almost have to control the AI,

[00:59:50] [SPEAKER_04]: like the flying cars with AI so that they only can fly on certain flight paths

[00:59:54] [SPEAKER_04]: or heights and stuff to make it so people aren't crashing.

[00:59:58] [SPEAKER_01]: It's scary.

[00:59:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you know, we'll just go on a rant here.

[01:00:03] [SPEAKER_04]: But where are all the places that people can check you out?

[01:00:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Check out your hair styling, support you.

[01:00:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Where can they find you?

[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_02]: You can find me on my main page.

[01:00:13] [SPEAKER_02]: For anything, you know, that's more fashion, influence face

[01:00:17] [SPEAKER_02]: on Instagram.

[01:00:18] [SPEAKER_02]: It's the Christian Air and for my hair page.

[01:00:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Anything regarding, like, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my,

[01:00:22] [SPEAKER_02]: the Christian Air and things like that coming up.

[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_02]: It's in Instagram.

[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's the Christian styles, just plain in simple.

[01:00:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Christian with no h.

[01:00:29] [SPEAKER_02]: OK.

[01:00:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Fri, man.

[01:00:31] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll include that in the show now.

[01:00:32] [SPEAKER_01]: It's down below for the viewers and listeners screw down.

[01:00:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Getting touch.

[01:00:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Make it really easy, of course.

[01:00:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Sounds cool with me.

[01:00:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And before we get you out here,

[01:00:38] [SPEAKER_01]: we gotta ask the golden questions.

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_01]: The question we ask every guest that comes

[01:00:41] [SPEAKER_01]: on the program, 271 episodes strong.

[01:00:43] [SPEAKER_01]: If you could offer one piece of advice

[01:00:45] [SPEAKER_01]: that when humanity hears this tomorrow morning,

[01:00:47] [SPEAKER_01]: they'll be better off hearing this slice of advice.

[01:00:49] [SPEAKER_01]: What would that be?

[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_04]: keep going the best is yet to come yeah like it that's so true it's good yeah

[01:01:00] [SPEAKER_04]: like yeah cuz you want to quit right right but you just gotta you gotta keep

[01:01:04] [SPEAKER_02]: going keep going get hard you never know what opportunities are in store I

[01:01:09] [SPEAKER_02]: never thought this would be an opportunity and look what happened let's go keep

[01:01:12] [SPEAKER_04]: going because you nice nice little boost off this I do like that because yeah

[01:01:16] [SPEAKER_04]: it's not easy and so it's a like keep going and then you also proved

[01:01:20] [SPEAKER_04]: yourself like that you didn't quit when it got hard and like that there's

[01:01:23] [SPEAKER_04]: where you find your inner warrior I rely on that I rely on that dude but

[01:01:28] [SPEAKER_04]: such a pleasure having you in here thank you for having me guys excellent

[01:01:31] [SPEAKER_04]: conversation with love your energy love what you're doing your transparency absolute

[01:01:36] [SPEAKER_01]: pleasure yeah great thank you appreciate it thanks for being open and sharing some

[01:01:39] [SPEAKER_01]: stories with us we just kind of scrape the surface so we love having repeat

[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_01]: guess well let's get you on maybe the next year definitely I'm excited check back

[01:01:44] [SPEAKER_01]: in and sounds good thanks for being here man thank you absolutely everyone out there

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