Chris Blea | Discussion Combustion Podcast | #256

[00:00:00] We'll have this discussion. Discussion what discussion? This is a discussion.

[00:00:04] Coming to you from Denver, Colorado. This is Discussion Combustion Podcast with your hosts,

[00:00:13] Kevin Batstone and Arthur Rawe. And we're talking, I mean... Don't worry, we're reminiscing back to

[00:00:19] the beer days and I don't drink on the podcast anymore. Those days are gone. I've been enjoying

[00:00:23] that two weeks now. All my shows not doing, you know, drinking. Because I'd come in here and

[00:00:26] slam six, seven beers while we record. It's easy to. I'm like, man, we gotta, we gotta

[00:00:30] tell you. Cause you're sitting here having that conversation. So it's like while you're just in

[00:00:32] between conversations with the other person, you're just like having a nice sip. It was

[00:00:36] easy. It became part of the habit and the routine. So wouldn't be so easy for me. I

[00:00:40] babysit all my drinks. I'm not really a big drinker as it is. Yeah. Smoking is where

[00:00:44] it's at for me. Okay. You know, that's a better option for the body. Of course. Yeah.

[00:00:47] Not necessarily my lungs. Like those are kind of struggling a little bit right now. Cigarettes

[00:00:54] too or? No. Okay. I say that like it's like really bad to do cigarettes, but then here

[00:00:59] I am smoking nicotine. Like the little like electric car. Yeah, exactly. The babes.

[00:01:03] So I'm like, okay, I'm judging the cigarettes, but it's really not any different. And

[00:01:06] so all things that should not be in your lungs going in there. So at least it smells

[00:01:10] a little better that far. But I'm like, I'm obsessed. I love them. Really? Are

[00:01:15] they like super addictive? Oh yeah. The nicotine is like so bad. I was so bad

[00:01:20] on them, constantly hitting them. And then my car got stolen when I was living back

[00:01:24] in Santa Fe and they, we found my car. The person that stole my car did not take

[00:01:30] anything from my car except for my nicotine. And what? Yeah. Okay. Literally

[00:01:35] nothing. I had like a printer and all kinds of stuff in there and they didn't

[00:01:37] steal anything. My, I get in, I'm about to start driving. I'm like looking for

[00:01:41] my, my little vape and I'm like, damn it. They stole my vape. That's the one thing.

[00:01:46] And so ever since then I haven't bought one for myself, but going back to the

[00:01:50] whole mooching thing, like I'm definitely a nicotine moocher. Like if I

[00:01:54] see someone out when I'm dancing or working, I'm like, you're hitting it.

[00:01:58] Let me have some, you know? So it's more of like a community friendly

[00:02:02] thing. Yeah. Like I'm not at home hitting my vape. Definitely when I'm

[00:02:07] out, it's a social thing. I mean, alcohol is kind of the same way, right?

[00:02:10] I mean, that's normalized for people to be drinking and happy hours and all

[00:02:13] that kind of stuff. So of course they can't really smoke indoors, but some of

[00:02:16] those places you can get away with those vapes. I feel like it's a little more

[00:02:19] discreet, you know? You can go to the bathroom and hit it. Yeah. And it's like,

[00:02:22] if it's a smaller hit, yeah, you can get away with it, but look, it's still

[00:02:26] like, isn't it still like secondhand? Can't I get, it's not secondhand

[00:02:30] smoke, but it's like secondhand vape. Like, can't I still? I'm pretty sure.

[00:02:33] Like that's why they say you can't do it inside because of the fact that

[00:02:37] like other people don't want to be inhaling that stuff. Yeah. It's still

[00:02:41] going in the air. Yeah, it's inconsiderate to others. I feel like if you're at a

[00:02:44] concert, like yeah, people are smoking joints and stuff, but it's like,

[00:02:46] you don't want to be sitting there in this cloud. At least me, I don't.

[00:02:52] No, I agree with that, but it is interesting because it smells better.

[00:02:56] There's like, it's allowed in more areas because it's not as like

[00:03:00] disturbing. It doesn't disturb the place as much. They've made it too

[00:03:03] easy, I feel like with all these flavored alcoholic beverages, with all

[00:03:06] these flavored nicotines and you know, even in the marijuana world with

[00:03:09] gummies and the candy and the drinks. You just want to keep trying the next

[00:03:12] one. You're like, let me see what this flavor tastes like. Right. Whereas

[00:03:15] back in the day it was like you just, you drink, you know, Budweiser

[00:03:18] beer and smoke Marlboro Reds. Those were the options. I mean, honestly

[00:03:21] I used to smoke Marlboro Reds and then also I liked the camel Turkish

[00:03:25] back in the day. Oh yeah, I knew some camel smokers. Like the

[00:03:28] Turkish, the camel one. The blue. Yeah, they tasted like for some

[00:03:32] reason I was like, this has essence of graham cracker. Graham cracker?

[00:03:35] Yeah. So I was like, I was in this when I did smoke cigarettes, that

[00:03:38] was what feels like a lifetime ago. Yeah.

[00:03:42] I remember when you smoked prime times. I don't remember you being a

[00:03:44] cigarette. Yeah, prime time. Yeah, cigarettes were before I met you.

[00:03:47] Oh, okay. So yeah, we're talking a long time ago. Yeah, it's like

[00:03:49] over 15, over 15 years ago. I was smoking cigs all the time. No,

[00:03:53] I did that when I was like 19 to like 23 or something.

[00:03:58] Oh yeah. I chewed tobacco from like 19, 18 to 24 ish. So I

[00:04:04] was that guy who was spitting in like bottles and stuff. And then I

[00:04:07] drank one of my chew beers one time, you know, and I was like,

[00:04:09] I'm done with this. That's disgusting. That's the worst fear ever.

[00:04:13] That's the worst fear ever. It was horrible. Yeah. Horrible.

[00:04:16] That's disgusting. That seems pretty disgusting. But it can

[00:04:19] sneak up on you, right? Especially with how they're doing

[00:04:21] it now. Like look, I'm 37. So when I was younger and more

[00:04:26] impressionable, it was just the cigarettes. Like we didn't

[00:04:29] have all this vape technology and stuff. So I'm saying so

[00:04:32] like you think about how new all that is too. Like they're really

[00:04:35] same with like social media. I was literally just thinking

[00:04:38] that when you said what social media? Yeah, because when I was

[00:04:42] like thinking about like when e-cigs came into like fashion,

[00:04:45] it was when I was middle school, I would say. And

[00:04:48] that's when like, you know, Facebook was already a thing.

[00:04:50] My space were already a thing before I was in middle

[00:04:52] school. But Instagram was like the starting come up. Okay,

[00:04:56] when I was in middle school. And that was like the thing

[00:04:58] was, you know, internet and all that stuff is huge. So kids

[00:05:02] my age would go on the internet, steal their parents

[00:05:05] credit cards and go buy them those like big mods. Okay. And

[00:05:08] we would all be like hiding in eighth grade, like hitting

[00:05:11] the vapes and doing all that stuff. And it was like

[00:05:14] brand new. No one really knew much about it. And now

[00:05:17] we know a lot more but definitely was thinking the

[00:05:19] same thing about like with social media, it's a lot

[00:05:21] more accessible. And there's like, you know, it's trendy

[00:05:24] to do the things that people are seeing on social media. So

[00:05:27] that's one of the things for sure.

[00:05:28] We're all super impressionable, right? And then

[00:05:31] yeah, these things are somewhat new though, like

[00:05:34] there hasn't even been a lifetime or two generations of

[00:05:37] people that have been alive during, you know, using

[00:05:40] Wi Fi even and having Wi Fi in our pockets and all

[00:05:43] these cellular devices on us all the time. So it's

[00:05:46] like, you know, what are the long term effects of

[00:05:49] like vaping or even like when I was vaping weed,

[00:05:52] like some 420 friendly and I was vape I used to vape

[00:05:54] it because I was like, yeah, I was on the same

[00:05:56] trend. The vaping school, this and that. So I was

[00:05:58] vaping it. But I would find myself like smoking the

[00:06:01] equivalent of an eighth way quicker because it's more

[00:06:04] acceptable. And everybody's like, okay, and it's

[00:06:07] just right there. My lungs started to feel shallow

[00:06:10] when I was hitting it like that. That never

[00:06:12] happened with flour. Only the vape started to make

[00:06:15] my lungs feel shallow. So then I stopped. I had

[00:06:17] to stop.

[00:06:18] That's interesting because I was really only

[00:06:22] smoking carts and like vapes.

[00:06:25] What is a cart?

[00:06:26] That's the electronic like, okay, marijuana.

[00:06:29] Oh, yeah.

[00:06:29] So things like Escobars or whatever.

[00:06:31] I think so.

[00:06:32] Like I know there's a couple big brands, I

[00:06:34] think. Yeah. But like for marijuana, I was

[00:06:37] smoking flour and all that stuff. And like my

[00:06:39] lungs did not feel as bad. And then I'm gonna

[00:06:41] start hitting those like electric cartridges and

[00:06:43] 100% now that you say that long started to

[00:06:46] feel shallow. Yeah, I just bought some

[00:06:48] deep breath like you used to. Yes. And like

[00:06:50] it like when I hit it breathing like

[00:06:52] exhaling is like, kind of like labored a

[00:06:54] little like I'm like, Oh, that's kind of

[00:06:57] weird. But then I go back and hit it like

[00:06:58] five seconds later. So it is what it is.

[00:07:01] Yeah, that's the addiction part of it. I

[00:07:03] think.

[00:07:03] Yeah, I don't like hitting it like the

[00:07:05] action of like taking something like smoking

[00:07:08] on it. I don't know. It's just like a

[00:07:09] tick. Like, I don't know. Like I also

[00:07:11] like to like bite my necklaces, things

[00:07:13] like that. So I think it's just like a

[00:07:14] like, hand to mouth. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

[00:07:18] I mean, that's I went to toothpicks after

[00:07:19] I got off chew and that stuck with me

[00:07:20] forever. Yeah. Just having something in

[00:07:22] there to occupy and then hand to mouth

[00:07:23] drinking the seltzer is really help. So

[00:07:25] it's kind of replacing it with one thing

[00:07:27] for the other. I would say I've heard

[00:07:29] that every time you put in a toothpick

[00:07:31] and angel gets its way. Yeah, shout out

[00:07:34] to be nasty on that one. He came up

[00:07:36] with that. No, it's funny because

[00:07:37] we're making silly stories. Good old

[00:07:39] social media right before that we

[00:07:40] wouldn't have been social media.

[00:07:42] Yeah. So so tick tocker do you do

[00:07:43] the tick tock stuff? I don't really

[00:07:45] post tick tocks. I was during 2020

[00:07:48] when we were all in lockdown, just

[00:07:50] because like, I was online for school

[00:07:52] and then we would be done for the day

[00:07:54] and I'd be stuck at home. So I was

[00:07:56] filming and like doing those like

[00:07:57] little tick tock dances. But then I

[00:07:59] was like, once I got out of lockdown,

[00:08:01] I kind of gave up on that. I was

[00:08:02] really into it anymore. So yeah,

[00:08:04] don't really post much on tick tock,

[00:08:06] but love to watch them. I think

[00:08:08] it's a great way to like if you

[00:08:09] want to learn how to do anything,

[00:08:10] YouTube was the way to go. And now

[00:08:12] I feel like tick tock is coming on

[00:08:14] the come up with that. Like I'm

[00:08:16] looking up a lot of things like I

[00:08:17] started picking up sewing. So a lot

[00:08:20] of my like self teaching from sewing

[00:08:21] is coming from tick tock because

[00:08:23] it's just like quicker videos. And I

[00:08:25] think that that's something too,

[00:08:26] that like humanities kind of like,

[00:08:29] you know, adapting to is that we're

[00:08:31] not really taking in exactly it's

[00:08:34] the short form. So it's like the

[00:08:35] quicker that we can just find out

[00:08:38] what we want to find out the like

[00:08:40] better it is for us. I can see

[00:08:41] that. And I think that social

[00:08:42] media is adding to that because

[00:08:45] it's like causing like, I mean, a

[00:08:46] lot of people are having more like

[00:08:48] mental health problems because of all

[00:08:50] the comparisons and then you're

[00:08:52] having anxiety and all these things

[00:08:54] because you feel like you're not

[00:08:55] stacking up or you're constantly on

[00:08:56] your phone and not you know, you

[00:08:58] need that constant gratification

[00:09:00] from the notifications.

[00:09:01] It's like the wrong type of you're

[00:09:03] getting endorphins but it's the

[00:09:05] wrong type of endorphin. Like it's

[00:09:07] coming from the wrong energy.

[00:09:08] Yeah, it's called L-Dopa.

[00:09:10] L-Dopa?

[00:09:11] Yeah, that's the name of the

[00:09:12] chemical in the brain. L-Dopa is

[00:09:14] what we're all chasing whether it's

[00:09:15] alcohol, drugs, sex, social media.

[00:09:16] Dopamine?

[00:09:17] It's yeah, but the proper term for

[00:09:18] it is L-Dopa.

[00:09:20] Oh, okay. That sounds like a cartel

[00:09:22] gangster.

[00:09:23] It does kind of sound like a mob

[00:09:25] boss.

[00:09:26] Yeah, I mean it's definitely a tool

[00:09:27] and resource.

[00:09:28] The information we find because even

[00:09:29] I, you know, trying to fix something

[00:09:31] on my car, right? You pull up the

[00:09:32] video and then I'm scrolling

[00:09:34] through it trying to find the

[00:09:34] answer. I don't want to listen to

[00:09:35] the intro and shit.

[00:09:36] I need my answer quicker.

[00:09:38] So that's there's definitely a

[00:09:39] market for that. And I think the

[00:09:40] YouTube shorts are going to do

[00:09:41] that because it's gonna be

[00:09:42] interesting to see what happens

[00:09:43] with TikTok. And we say we're

[00:09:44] gonna do politics. But Joe Biden

[00:09:45] just signed a bill today banning

[00:09:46] TikTok in the USA.

[00:09:48] I did see that.

[00:09:49] I was like, is that real?

[00:09:50] It is.

[00:09:51] That is ridiculous.

[00:09:52] It's a contingency deal.

[00:09:54] So they have nine months from today

[00:09:55] for the parent company that owns

[00:09:56] TikTok, which I believe is called

[00:09:57] ByteDance to sell.

[00:09:59] They need to sell the TikTok

[00:10:02] under that umbrella in order

[00:10:04] for not to remain banned in the

[00:10:05] USA. So basically, early next

[00:10:07] year, if it's not done.

[00:10:08] And I'm curious to see what's

[00:10:09] going to happen if that goes

[00:10:10] through because people are gonna

[00:10:11] lose their day.

[00:10:11] People are gonna lose their mind.

[00:10:12] The whole young generation lives on

[00:10:14] there.

[00:10:14] Yes, it's definitely

[00:10:16] like a part of everyone's daily

[00:10:18] routine.

[00:10:19] I didn't realize that it was

[00:10:21] like a search engine.

[00:10:23] Like, I never because I'm

[00:10:25] I'm newer to it.

[00:10:26] So I know that YouTube is

[00:10:28] like one of the most roped

[00:10:29] most searched in search

[00:10:32] bars.

[00:10:32] Yeah, really over Google.

[00:10:33] Yes.

[00:10:34] It's like right there with the

[00:10:35] Google search.

[00:10:36] And they own each other.

[00:10:37] Yeah. So it's like it's like

[00:10:38] really close.

[00:10:39] But so I didn't know TikTok

[00:10:41] was really used for that.

[00:10:42] Yeah. I mean, I don't know if

[00:10:43] everyone does that.

[00:10:44] But my friend that I

[00:10:46] actually met last semester,

[00:10:48] she was we were talking about

[00:10:51] like a big project that we had to

[00:10:53] do and how to make the

[00:10:54] PowerPoint and the slides and

[00:10:55] all this stuff.

[00:10:56] And she was the one that was

[00:10:57] like, oh, I just do TikTok

[00:10:59] and I was like, really?

[00:11:01] I was like, I don't know how

[00:11:01] to do all these transitions.

[00:11:03] I don't really like using

[00:11:04] PowerPoint.

[00:11:04] It makes me lazy.

[00:11:05] All that stuff.

[00:11:06] And so, yeah, I went on

[00:11:07] TikTok that night.

[00:11:08] She was teaching me like like

[00:11:10] how to type it in because

[00:11:11] there's specific like ways to

[00:11:12] word it or whatever.

[00:11:14] Wow. So you're like making a

[00:11:15] PowerPoint.

[00:11:15] Yes. And then I made my final

[00:11:17] PowerPoint using the TikTok

[00:11:18] transitions. I kept finding more

[00:11:20] and I was like, this is a

[00:11:20] cool one. Let me go do that

[00:11:21] one on my PowerPoint.

[00:11:22] So I would like watch the

[00:11:23] TikTok and then put it on my

[00:11:25] PowerPoint.

[00:11:25] It's really cool.

[00:11:26] Yeah. Interesting.

[00:11:27] I don't know too much about

[00:11:28] politics, but I feel like

[00:11:30] if it was an American

[00:11:32] owned or like a

[00:11:34] northern American owned

[00:11:35] company like Metta would be

[00:11:36] fine. Like something like

[00:11:37] that. Yeah.

[00:11:38] Then there wouldn't be an

[00:11:39] issue. But because China

[00:11:41] is spying on us with all

[00:11:42] this and gathering all this

[00:11:44] American data and

[00:11:45] also China has control of

[00:11:47] what kind of algorithms are

[00:11:48] fed to people.

[00:11:49] So like, what are you

[00:11:50] seeing?

[00:11:52] Where is your head being

[00:11:53] where's your vision being

[00:11:54] focused? Right.

[00:11:55] Because people who

[00:11:56] control social media do

[00:11:58] control to a certain extent

[00:12:00] what we receive,

[00:12:01] what kind of news we see

[00:12:02] and all this other stuff.

[00:12:03] So that's true.

[00:12:04] All that stuff is true and

[00:12:06] it is a foreign power that

[00:12:07] does compete with America

[00:12:09] in other ways. So like I

[00:12:10] understand how there could be

[00:12:12] propaganda against

[00:12:14] different countries, even

[00:12:15] America using Facebook and

[00:12:16] stuff like we could be

[00:12:17] doing propaganda to other

[00:12:19] countries as well.

[00:12:20] Like we're not only the

[00:12:21] victim here.

[00:12:21] Like America is usually the

[00:12:23] baddies anyway.

[00:12:24] Right. I mean, that's the

[00:12:25] thing is like if you look

[00:12:25] at social media, like

[00:12:26] look at what we call people

[00:12:28] that are big on there, we

[00:12:29] call them influencers.

[00:12:29] So it's like, I mean,

[00:12:31] everyone that's an influencer

[00:12:33] is just influencing people to

[00:12:35] get their agenda, whatever

[00:12:36] that is. And so it's like

[00:12:37] social media knows what

[00:12:38] you're interested in.

[00:12:40] I was just doing it today

[00:12:41] like I looked something

[00:12:43] up. I think it was on

[00:12:45] TikTok and I go.

[00:12:49] Yeah, it was a type of

[00:12:49] dancing. I was like,

[00:12:51] I was like, let me look up

[00:12:52] how to it was a specific

[00:12:53] like movement for twerking.

[00:12:55] And so I was like, let me

[00:12:56] look that up.

[00:12:56] And so I looked it up on

[00:12:57] TikTok and then found a

[00:12:59] couple of videos.

[00:13:00] It was fine. Whatever.

[00:13:01] Get off of it.

[00:13:02] And I just went to YouTube

[00:13:03] just like scroll and on

[00:13:05] the shorts on YouTube right

[00:13:06] away there was a video

[00:13:07] talking about how to

[00:13:08] twerk. And I was like,

[00:13:09] I have not looked that

[00:13:10] up ever on YouTube.

[00:13:12] Yeah, I don't like it either.

[00:13:13] It makes me feel uncomfortable.

[00:13:14] Yeah, for sure.

[00:13:15] It happens to me all the

[00:13:15] time. Like we'll be talking

[00:13:16] about something and then

[00:13:17] the next time I open Facebook

[00:13:18] or whatever, I'm like,

[00:13:18] there it is.

[00:13:19] You know, it's like,

[00:13:20] is it a coincidence or

[00:13:21] is it listening?

[00:13:22] No, it's not.

[00:13:23] It's not a coincidence.

[00:13:24] There's too much AI involved.

[00:13:25] Yeah.

[00:13:26] Oh, I hate that Instagram

[00:13:27] just added an AI,

[00:13:28] the meta AI or something.

[00:13:30] It's like in the search

[00:13:31] bar.

[00:13:31] Yeah.

[00:13:32] I didn't hear about this.

[00:13:32] I've never used it,

[00:13:34] but there's two like

[00:13:37] AI searches that it says

[00:13:38] I've had, like because you

[00:13:39] know how it shows your recent

[00:13:40] searches on Instagram

[00:13:41] and I like delete them.

[00:13:43] And every single time

[00:13:44] I go into the Instagram,

[00:13:45] it's the same exact two.

[00:13:47] And they just like keep

[00:13:48] going to the top.

[00:13:49] And it's really frustrating

[00:13:50] because I hate AI

[00:13:51] and like on Snapchat,

[00:13:52] they forced you to have an AI.

[00:13:54] So now there's like your AI

[00:13:55] at the top.

[00:13:56] You can't get rid of it.

[00:13:57] Now, why do you dislike

[00:13:59] or hate AI?

[00:14:00] What is it?

[00:14:01] I don't know.

[00:14:01] It just makes me

[00:14:02] like uncomfortable.

[00:14:02] Like I want to just talk

[00:14:03] to like real people.

[00:14:04] And like I want to stay

[00:14:06] in the real world.

[00:14:07] And when I go on social media,

[00:14:08] it's just to connect

[00:14:09] to people that, you know,

[00:14:10] I don't see every day.

[00:14:12] Yeah, it actually exists.

[00:14:13] Being from Santa Fe,

[00:14:15] it's like I've been away

[00:14:16] from home now a little over a year.

[00:14:18] And so it's hard

[00:14:20] when you like have your old friends,

[00:14:22] your family.

[00:14:23] And that's who I want

[00:14:25] to talk to on social media.

[00:14:26] I always want to grow my platform.

[00:14:27] So it's like what is AI

[00:14:29] doing for me for that?

[00:14:30] Like they're not a real person.

[00:14:31] I don't want robots

[00:14:32] following me.

[00:14:33] Right.

[00:14:33] And it's just like

[00:14:34] there's no reason.

[00:14:34] Like, I don't know.

[00:14:36] If you're into AI, cool.

[00:14:37] Have it on your app.

[00:14:38] But I think that it's being

[00:14:39] forced on everybody.

[00:14:40] And it's like you don't really

[00:14:41] have the choice to like

[00:14:42] take it off of your Snapchat,

[00:14:43] take it off of your Insta,

[00:14:44] whatever it is.

[00:14:44] I don't like that.

[00:14:46] That's why I don't like it,

[00:14:47] because it's being forced.

[00:14:48] Yeah, I mean, it's

[00:14:49] good for it to exist.

[00:14:50] Like those AI videos

[00:14:51] which are probably there.

[00:14:52] There's enough of our voice

[00:14:53] on the airwaves

[00:14:54] that can probably translate that

[00:14:55] and make us say something

[00:14:56] we didn't say.

[00:14:57] That's where it gets concerning

[00:14:58] because it's like,

[00:14:58] how does that hold up in court?

[00:15:00] You know, if there's,

[00:15:00] you know, accusations,

[00:15:02] oh, we have this clip here

[00:15:03] of your voice saying it's like,

[00:15:04] well, that was AI.

[00:15:05] Yeah, there's going to be some

[00:15:06] major legal ramifications

[00:15:08] from all this.

[00:15:08] I mean, you're already seeing that

[00:15:09] because like AI was big when

[00:15:13] it was like a TikTok trend

[00:15:14] that they were doing using AI

[00:15:16] to make songs from artists

[00:15:19] that like the artists

[00:15:20] never put out or like

[00:15:22] have this artist do a cover

[00:15:24] of this artist song.

[00:15:25] And it sounds just like that person.

[00:15:27] But then artists were getting upset

[00:15:28] because they were like,

[00:15:29] it's not really

[00:15:29] not getting paid for any of this.

[00:15:31] Like, where's the royalties at?

[00:15:32] Exactly.

[00:15:33] You're using my image like

[00:15:34] my voice, everything.

[00:15:35] Yes.

[00:15:36] So there's all the legal stuff

[00:15:37] and then same with like the AI art

[00:15:39] because you could say

[00:15:40] draw something like this artist

[00:15:42] and then it will spit out

[00:15:44] something that looks like

[00:15:45] that artist drew it.

[00:15:47] So it's like all over the place.

[00:15:48] Voices, art,

[00:15:49] like all over the place.

[00:15:50] Well, it's really like

[00:15:51] kind of disrespectful to artists

[00:15:52] too that like do their own,

[00:15:55] you know, commissions off of

[00:15:57] or like they created that style.

[00:15:59] Yeah, exactly.

[00:16:00] And then it's like,

[00:16:01] I mean, I did it.

[00:16:02] It was a trend once again

[00:16:03] on social media

[00:16:04] where you were going on those apps

[00:16:05] and you were putting your pictures in

[00:16:06] and then it was creating

[00:16:07] like AI pics for you.

[00:16:09] I never did that.

[00:16:09] And I thought that was really fun and cool.

[00:16:11] And then an artist that I follow

[00:16:14] posted it and was like,

[00:16:15] if you're using this AI app

[00:16:17] to like post their images,

[00:16:19] like you had to pay for the app.

[00:16:21] You had to pay for the pictures.

[00:16:22] Like that money that you could have used

[00:16:23] on that app to pay the AI.

[00:16:25] You could actually have gotten

[00:16:26] to a real artist

[00:16:28] and paid them

[00:16:29] and they would have done the same thing.

[00:16:31] And got something authentic.

[00:16:32] Exactly.

[00:16:33] Not some like fake shit,

[00:16:35] some real shit.

[00:16:36] Yeah.

[00:16:37] You know, that's what it is.

[00:16:38] It's concerning and it's

[00:16:39] it'll be interesting to see where it goes.

[00:16:41] Like especially with musicians,

[00:16:42] they've already been dealing

[00:16:43] with this for years

[00:16:44] with people, you know,

[00:16:45] stealing their music.

[00:16:46] And a lot of this has already been done,

[00:16:47] like repetitive chord patterns

[00:16:49] and all that stuff.

[00:16:49] Now you throw AI in there.

[00:16:51] It's scary to see

[00:16:52] what's going to happen to musicians

[00:16:53] and artists too.

[00:16:54] Video games.

[00:16:55] I mean, these guys came up with all this,

[00:16:57] that style art,

[00:16:58] like you're saying, it's like

[00:16:59] what that guy's out of a job now

[00:17:00] because he's being replaced by computers.

[00:17:02] Is that where we're headed?

[00:17:04] I mean, potentially, right?

[00:17:05] Like his big corporations

[00:17:07] are always trying to maximize

[00:17:09] and like they're using AI

[00:17:11] and they don't care

[00:17:12] if people don't like it

[00:17:13] or like it's uncanny.

[00:17:14] I do feel like it does

[00:17:15] have certain applications

[00:17:16] like for mapping out

[00:17:18] like computer coding,

[00:17:20] maybe stuff like that,

[00:17:21] like it could be useful for.

[00:17:23] So I'm not going to sit here

[00:17:24] and or like how it like gets

[00:17:25] the voice to text,

[00:17:26] even though my phone

[00:17:28] can't do it worth the shit

[00:17:29] for some reason.

[00:17:30] I found something to fix that.

[00:17:31] Really?

[00:17:31] Yeah, we'll look at that.

[00:17:32] OK, I'm going to need that.

[00:17:33] I spent like a little bit on it.

[00:17:34] But yeah, yeah,

[00:17:35] because I just paid this phone off.

[00:17:36] So I'm trying to go

[00:17:36] a long way with this.

[00:17:37] Spell check.

[00:17:38] You know, when spell check came out,

[00:17:39] that's AI.

[00:17:40] That was huge.

[00:17:41] Right.

[00:17:41] Because you think about it,

[00:17:41] it's analyzing what you're writing

[00:17:42] and it knows,

[00:17:43] oh, that's spelled incorrectly.

[00:17:44] So that's like the early signs

[00:17:45] of when we integrated

[00:17:46] artificial intelligence

[00:17:47] into work and into school

[00:17:48] and things like that.

[00:17:50] Right.

[00:17:50] So I can't sit here.

[00:17:51] And but I will tell you

[00:17:53] I can't sit here

[00:17:54] and say I don't like all AI.

[00:17:55] But the AI art where it's like

[00:17:57] you making a picture of something

[00:17:59] like it's just so I don't like it.

[00:18:00] It's so uncanny.

[00:18:02] The one that they made of us.

[00:18:03] Yeah, it was alarming.

[00:18:04] Well, they got my boots in there.

[00:18:05] They did get your boots in there.

[00:18:06] But there's just weird things in it

[00:18:08] like where the mic cord

[00:18:10] goes somewhere that it wouldn't

[00:18:12] or like hands look weird

[00:18:14] or like there's like

[00:18:14] some kind of odd device or like.

[00:18:16] So it's just it's just not real.

[00:18:18] Yeah.

[00:18:19] And so like I like existing in reality

[00:18:21] like what you were saying as well.

[00:18:22] And going back to the dopamine

[00:18:25] that people receive when

[00:18:27] we're on seeing the likes

[00:18:28] of what you're saying

[00:18:29] and all this sort of stuff.

[00:18:30] And we're chasing social media

[00:18:32] and basically

[00:18:35] feedback on our stories

[00:18:37] and like we're looking for that.

[00:18:38] Like that instant gratification.

[00:18:41] Like that dopamine is not going to

[00:18:44] help release cortisol or stress

[00:18:46] and stuff like that in your body.

[00:18:47] Like going on a walk in nature

[00:18:50] and like removing yourself

[00:18:51] from the screens actually

[00:18:52] and actually moving your body

[00:18:55] and like breathing and being present.

[00:18:58] Because when technically

[00:18:59] when you're on social media

[00:18:59] like are you really present

[00:19:01] and like thinking about living

[00:19:03] and like existing

[00:19:04] like you're not really

[00:19:05] thinking about it.

[00:19:05] It's tuning out.

[00:19:06] It's like watching a program,

[00:19:07] you know.

[00:19:07] I would say you're more so

[00:19:08] like looking for

[00:19:10] I know me when I post on social media

[00:19:12] I can't lie.

[00:19:13] I'm looking for the attention.

[00:19:15] Yeah.

[00:19:15] So it's like I'm not looking for

[00:19:18] yeah that real like authentic

[00:19:20] like yeah real life stuff

[00:19:22] like I'm just posting

[00:19:23] and I'm like hopefully

[00:19:24] some people that I've never met before

[00:19:26] are going to like like it

[00:19:28] because gratification

[00:19:30] and that can create a movement too.

[00:19:31] Like that has a purpose

[00:19:34] and it can have a positive impact.

[00:19:35] We're on there every week.

[00:19:36] Yeah.

[00:19:36] So it's like everything

[00:19:37] that we're talking about

[00:19:38] like AI posting

[00:19:39] you know social media

[00:19:40] there's like all those are double

[00:19:41] sides double sided blades.

[00:19:43] Yeah.

[00:19:43] I mean that's with everything.

[00:19:45] I mean we were talking about alcohol

[00:19:46] and weed and all that stuff

[00:19:47] and it's like

[00:19:48] I mean some there are some health

[00:19:51] benefits of drinking a glass of wine

[00:19:53] like overindulging on that

[00:19:55] and it's there's the limit.

[00:19:56] So I think everything has those pros

[00:19:58] and cons no matter what we talk about

[00:20:00] and everyone just has their own opinions

[00:20:02] on whether they like it

[00:20:03] or they dislike something

[00:20:04] and that's where we all have

[00:20:05] like I think that's where we have a lot of

[00:20:09] arguments and disagreements

[00:20:11] because everyone thinks that

[00:20:12] like their opinion on something

[00:20:14] is the correct one.

[00:20:15] Of course.

[00:20:16] And it's like yeah there's facts

[00:20:17] and things that can be proven obviously

[00:20:19] so you can't argue

[00:20:22] with the facts.

[00:20:24] But I mean when it's something like this

[00:20:26] and we're talking about AI or alcohol

[00:20:28] or things like of that nature

[00:20:29] I think you know everyone does

[00:20:31] have their own opinion sometimes

[00:20:33] and just take it

[00:20:35] with a grain of salt.

[00:20:36] I don't know.

[00:20:37] Just allow people to feel what they feel.

[00:20:39] Yeah I agree with that

[00:20:40] because everyone's gonna have an opinion.

[00:20:41] Good advice.

[00:20:41] You know on the old saying

[00:20:42] this came up the other day

[00:20:43] opinions are like assholes.

[00:20:44] Everyone has one and they all stink.

[00:20:46] Right.

[00:20:46] So when you break that down

[00:20:48] it's like so ever you're gonna have

[00:20:49] your haters you're gonna have your lovers

[00:20:50] as part of it you know

[00:20:51] and like the dopamine release

[00:20:53] you know the guy who's drinking every night

[00:20:54] is judging the guy who's smoking weed

[00:20:55] and then he's judging the guy that's

[00:20:56] watching porn it's like

[00:20:58] you're all getting the same release

[00:20:59] from something.

[00:21:00] Yeah what's up with that.

[00:21:01] That's a good point.

[00:21:02] You know it's like no one's better

[00:21:03] than anyone.

[00:21:04] Or like they're eating sugar

[00:21:05] or something and then they're sitting

[00:21:06] over here judging somebody else.

[00:21:08] Stuffing in cheeseburgers.

[00:21:09] That's what I'm saying I feel bad

[00:21:10] that I was like I smoke

[00:21:12] electronic vapes but people that

[00:21:13] smoke cigarettes are gross.

[00:21:14] Like it's the same as nicotine

[00:21:16] but that's my opinion.

[00:21:17] But I'm like I shouldn't be judging them.

[00:21:19] But at the same time.

[00:21:19] Well I judge the hell out of them.

[00:21:20] I think cigarette smokers are gross.

[00:21:21] It is.

[00:21:22] I think they're inconsiderate.

[00:21:23] They're always blowing their smoke around.

[00:21:25] It's like.

[00:21:25] Boy one of our very best

[00:21:27] friends is an avid cigarette

[00:21:29] smoker.

[00:21:29] We're calling you out Schween.

[00:21:30] Yeah we're talking shit to him.

[00:21:31] And that's the thing is

[00:21:33] you can have different opinions than

[00:21:35] people and like still have respect

[00:21:37] for each other.

[00:21:37] Oh absolutely.

[00:21:38] But like we've had people on the

[00:21:39] couch that we don't agree with.

[00:21:40] Kevin and I don't always agree on

[00:21:42] everything.

[00:21:43] But it's like we just

[00:21:44] respect each other through it all

[00:21:45] and it's OK if if like we agree

[00:21:47] to disagree on a subject.

[00:21:49] Yeah.

[00:21:49] But there has to get that point

[00:21:51] where you have to just be like OK

[00:21:52] well like I'm not swaying.

[00:21:53] You're not swaying.

[00:21:54] So we're beating a dead horse like

[00:21:56] let's talk about something else.

[00:21:57] I love you.

[00:21:58] Or whatever.

[00:21:59] Most people aren't able to do

[00:22:00] that though.

[00:22:00] Like you look at the family

[00:22:01] Thanksgiving's where someone ends

[00:22:02] up throwing the turkey across

[00:22:03] the room and Thanksgiving's ruined.

[00:22:05] Like it's like come on guys.

[00:22:06] You know conflict resolution.

[00:22:08] It's like why.

[00:22:09] I feel like conflict resolution

[00:22:10] has gone down the tubes.

[00:22:13] I think it's also like after

[00:22:15] 2020 lockdown I think

[00:22:17] going back to those opinions

[00:22:19] everyone was wanting to post

[00:22:21] them on social media because

[00:22:23] everyone had so much time on

[00:22:24] their hands being at home that

[00:22:26] I feel like everyone just got

[00:22:28] so much more polarized.

[00:22:30] And after that about like

[00:22:32] everything like everyone's always

[00:22:33] wanting to fight now.

[00:22:34] Everyone is always trying to

[00:22:35] pick a fight about something

[00:22:37] like I mean I'm wearing my

[00:22:38] Beyonce shirt because I think

[00:22:40] she's the best artist of all

[00:22:41] time.

[00:22:42] And now after that it's like

[00:22:43] Taylor Swift and Beyonce fans

[00:22:45] are like always butting heads

[00:22:46] and like that's a stupid

[00:22:47] argument.

[00:22:48] But it's like it's just how it

[00:22:50] is now.

[00:22:50] Like everyone wants to argue

[00:22:52] and say this is better that's

[00:22:53] better.

[00:22:53] And it's like after 2020 I

[00:22:56] don't know I just feel like

[00:22:57] everyone is so argumentative

[00:23:00] for no reason.

[00:23:01] And I have met people that I

[00:23:03] disagree with that are more

[00:23:04] like you know my age that

[00:23:07] people say that young people

[00:23:07] are the problem and like all

[00:23:09] this stuff like the next

[00:23:09] generation whatever.

[00:23:10] I'm like I have talked to

[00:23:12] people about politics about

[00:23:13] things like you should know

[00:23:14] that are not table talk.

[00:23:16] And we've become friends

[00:23:17] because it's like well we are

[00:23:20] coming from two totally

[00:23:21] separate backgrounds and like

[00:23:23] I'm hearing out what you're

[00:23:24] saying.

[00:23:25] I don't agree with that.

[00:23:26] You're hearing out what I'm

[00:23:27] saying.

[00:23:27] You don't agree with it but

[00:23:28] like I still think you're a

[00:23:29] cool person and you still

[00:23:31] think I'm a cool person.

[00:23:32] So then what's the big deal.

[00:23:34] Like let's just not talk

[00:23:34] about that then like I know

[00:23:36] that we disagree.

[00:23:37] So then we just that's like

[00:23:38] a topic that's not for us to

[00:23:39] discuss.

[00:23:40] Yeah.

[00:23:40] And that's fine.

[00:23:41] More people should be able to

[00:23:41] do that I feel like.

[00:23:42] But they know and I'm

[00:23:43] assuming this individual it

[00:23:44] was in person that you have

[00:23:45] this kind of thing.

[00:23:46] That makes a big difference

[00:23:47] to us.

[00:23:47] I go into that a little bit

[00:23:49] like he was I met him you

[00:23:51] know moving to Denver.

[00:23:52] I didn't really know how

[00:23:53] people were here and he

[00:23:58] was a Trump supporter and as

[00:24:00] a gay Hispanic man I'm like

[00:24:03] no that's like not for me

[00:24:06] whatever.

[00:24:07] And me and him just started

[00:24:09] talking.

[00:24:09] He had like a American flag

[00:24:11] phone case.

[00:24:13] So once again gay man I'm

[00:24:15] like oh no that's a like

[00:24:18] toxic straight dude.

[00:24:20] Like I don't want to go

[00:24:20] anywhere near that.

[00:24:21] Like that's just not my

[00:24:22] type of person.

[00:24:23] And this is like your

[00:24:24] first impression.

[00:24:25] Yeah very judgmental very

[00:24:27] making assumptions and then

[00:24:29] me and him were put in

[00:24:31] the same group.

[00:24:32] We were in our anatomy

[00:24:33] class together we're put in

[00:24:34] the same group and then

[00:24:35] like we just started

[00:24:37] talking.

[00:24:37] He was really cool like I

[00:24:39] guess he thought the same

[00:24:40] of me because then one time

[00:24:42] after an exam we both went

[00:24:44] out and had some lunch and

[00:24:45] we started talking.

[00:24:46] He asked me questions about

[00:24:48] being gay and he really

[00:24:49] didn't understand it and

[00:24:50] I was just like telling

[00:24:51] him you know he was

[00:24:52] religious so I'm like

[00:24:54] I'm not religious.

[00:24:55] So we really were like on

[00:24:56] opposite sides.

[00:24:58] And then yeah we just

[00:24:59] started making it a thing

[00:25:00] where we hung out we

[00:25:02] would go have a drink we

[00:25:03] would go to a bar we

[00:25:03] would go to lunch and he

[00:25:07] didn't go back to school

[00:25:08] this past semester.

[00:25:08] I didn't go back to school

[00:25:09] this semester so we lost

[00:25:12] kind of that contact.

[00:25:13] And then what was it like

[00:25:15] two weeks ago I reached

[00:25:17] out and I was like hey

[00:25:18] like how are you doing

[00:25:19] because he's a firefighter

[00:25:20] so I'm like I know

[00:25:21] you're busy.

[00:25:22] We haven't talked and

[00:25:23] hung out since last

[00:25:24] semester because of how

[00:25:25] busy and like our lives

[00:25:26] have changed but we

[00:25:27] should try to hang out

[00:25:27] and we got up and a

[00:25:30] couple of weeks ago and

[00:25:30] it was so nice like it

[00:25:31] just like kind of like

[00:25:32] picks up right where we

[00:25:33] left off and I'm like

[00:25:34] see like someone that's

[00:25:35] so different from me

[00:25:36] that has so many

[00:25:37] different like core values

[00:25:39] than I do.

[00:25:40] We were able to like

[00:25:41] become friends and I

[00:25:42] genuinely think of him

[00:25:43] as like a friend now.

[00:25:44] So that's awesome.

[00:25:45] It's a great story.

[00:25:46] Thanks for sharing that.

[00:25:46] Yeah I like hearing

[00:25:47] stuff like that because

[00:25:48] it's like gives me

[00:25:49] optimism that there is

[00:25:50] still you know people

[00:25:51] out there that can get

[00:25:52] along with different

[00:25:53] opinions or whatever and

[00:25:54] more importantly is

[00:25:55] coming together and

[00:25:55] hanging out putting

[00:25:56] those differences aside

[00:25:57] having a drink enjoying

[00:25:58] the moment like we

[00:25:59] should be able to

[00:25:59] do that.

[00:26:00] That's true.

[00:26:00] Yeah it's it's like I'm

[00:26:03] learning more and more

[00:26:04] as I grow.

[00:26:06] I mean I'm 24 so I'm

[00:26:08] not really like I don't

[00:26:09] count myself as an

[00:26:11] adult still like I'm

[00:26:12] like yeah I am but

[00:26:13] I'm a baby adult like

[00:26:14] I'm still learning this

[00:26:15] crap and like I don't

[00:26:17] know just trying to

[00:26:20] mature.

[00:26:21] I'm learning that my

[00:26:24] opinions what I believe

[00:26:25] how I am and no

[00:26:26] matter like how that

[00:26:27] relates to others

[00:26:28] really doesn't affect

[00:26:29] them because at the

[00:26:31] end of the day I'm

[00:26:31] not paying their bills

[00:26:32] like I'm not doing

[00:26:33] all that for them.

[00:26:34] So what does it

[00:26:36] really matter why am

[00:26:36] I going to ruin my

[00:26:38] peace and let myself

[00:26:39] get upset just because

[00:26:41] they don't agree with

[00:26:41] me and vice versa.

[00:26:43] So that's why I'm like

[00:26:44] I just think we all

[00:26:46] need to just respect

[00:26:47] each other.

[00:26:47] It's not that hard

[00:26:49] and ultimately we're

[00:26:50] all going through this

[00:26:51] alone.

[00:26:52] So like really it

[00:26:54] doesn't matter why are

[00:26:55] you going to ruin your

[00:26:56] day or their day just

[00:26:57] to have an argument

[00:26:58] for the sake of it.

[00:26:58] You know.

[00:26:59] Yeah no absolutely.

[00:27:00] I mean I was that

[00:27:01] guy for a long time.

[00:27:02] I was I was very

[00:27:03] anti a lot of things

[00:27:05] when I moved.

[00:27:05] I moved from very

[00:27:06] small town Wolfboro

[00:27:06] New Hampshire.

[00:27:07] Shout out 603 and

[00:27:09] you know I grew up in

[00:27:10] Wolfboro New Hampshire.

[00:27:11] OK New Hampshire.

[00:27:12] Yeah he's like

[00:27:14] where's the 603

[00:27:16] 603 baby.

[00:27:17] It's like two hours

[00:27:17] north of Boston.

[00:27:18] OK.

[00:27:19] And when you get out of

[00:27:19] Boston up in the

[00:27:20] backwoods of New England

[00:27:22] people you know view

[00:27:23] New England is like

[00:27:23] this old village

[00:27:24] and it's pretty

[00:27:25] backwoods very

[00:27:26] conservative views.

[00:27:27] You know so I grew

[00:27:27] up around a lot of

[00:27:28] that just a white

[00:27:29] town small country

[00:27:30] town.

[00:27:31] So I come out here to

[00:27:31] Denver quite different

[00:27:33] right.

[00:27:33] That's around the time

[00:27:34] that these guys or

[00:27:35] him and our

[00:27:36] buddies and I just I

[00:27:38] had a tunnel vision

[00:27:39] mindset from how where

[00:27:40] I grew up wasn't used

[00:27:41] to the culture wasn't

[00:27:42] used to you know

[00:27:43] different sexual

[00:27:44] orientations things like

[00:27:45] that. So I was

[00:27:45] thrown into this thing

[00:27:46] and I'm like man

[00:27:46] that's just that's not

[00:27:48] I'm not used to that

[00:27:48] you can grow up

[00:27:49] around that that's

[00:27:49] that's bad.

[00:27:51] That's bad because

[00:27:51] they didn't know

[00:27:52] any better.

[00:27:52] And then it's like

[00:27:53] as the years clicked

[00:27:53] on and I started

[00:27:54] meeting new people

[00:27:55] having new experiences

[00:27:56] it's like oh wow

[00:27:57] we're all really

[00:27:57] just the same.

[00:27:58] I know that's what

[00:27:59] it is.

[00:27:59] It's like really we

[00:28:01] all grow up in such

[00:28:02] a small world that

[00:28:04] we think like that's

[00:28:06] everything and then

[00:28:07] you move and you

[00:28:08] don't understand what

[00:28:09] it's like until you

[00:28:11] from where you're

[00:28:12] so true like

[00:28:13] you move and you're

[00:28:14] like oh my God

[00:28:15] there's so much out

[00:28:15] there like living in

[00:28:16] Denver for the past

[00:28:17] year and you know

[00:28:18] couple of months.

[00:28:19] I'm like there's

[00:28:21] so much like I keep

[00:28:22] meeting new people

[00:28:23] and like just new

[00:28:24] experiences learning

[00:28:25] new things and I'm

[00:28:25] like people back

[00:28:27] home would never

[00:28:28] like we would never

[00:28:29] experience this.

[00:28:30] Like it's crazy.

[00:28:31] And then I lived in

[00:28:32] Phoenix for a while

[00:28:32] and that was so

[00:28:33] different than Denver.

[00:28:35] I hated it there by

[00:28:36] the way but like

[00:28:37] just so different.

[00:28:38] Was it too hot?

[00:28:38] Yeah the heat.

[00:28:39] Hot and the people

[00:28:40] there it was a lot of

[00:28:41] people from California.

[00:28:42] Yeah OK it's gotten

[00:28:43] worse and I don't

[00:28:45] like that kind of

[00:28:45] personality like

[00:28:47] what is the California

[00:28:48] what is I don't know.

[00:28:49] It just seems very

[00:28:50] self-centered.

[00:28:51] OK like they just

[00:28:52] say they're about them

[00:28:53] and fake like I

[00:28:54] couldn't make genuine

[00:28:55] friendships in Phoenix

[00:28:57] like like they act

[00:28:58] like different in front

[00:28:59] of different people

[00:29:00] or kind of their

[00:29:00] either using a millions.

[00:29:02] People are using it.

[00:29:04] It's like that's a good

[00:29:05] sly hand and so

[00:29:06] like I bet you that

[00:29:07] dude uses fucking AI.

[00:29:08] That's like the new insult.

[00:29:11] That's pretty funny.

[00:29:12] I know what you mean though.

[00:29:13] I mean yeah you know

[00:29:14] I'm sure not everybody

[00:29:15] from California is that way

[00:29:16] but I totally get it.

[00:29:16] I was in Phoenix

[00:29:17] I don't know a couple

[00:29:18] of weeks ago.

[00:29:19] I was down there for a race

[00:29:20] so you know it's

[00:29:21] it is kind of a different

[00:29:22] world for sure.

[00:29:22] It's very different than

[00:29:23] Denver.

[00:29:23] It's very different where

[00:29:24] I grew up

[00:29:25] but that's kind of

[00:29:25] what I appreciate

[00:29:26] when I travel around

[00:29:26] the country like we

[00:29:27] were just talking about

[00:29:27] San Diego.

[00:29:28] It's an awesome city.

[00:29:29] I love the beaches there

[00:29:31] but I would never live

[00:29:31] there like that's

[00:29:32] that's a place I go to

[00:29:33] vacay get a burrito

[00:29:34] and enjoy the beach.

[00:29:35] I wouldn't want to

[00:29:35] live there.

[00:29:36] I kind of narrowed it

[00:29:37] down but you said

[00:29:37] what Santa Fe you grew up.

[00:29:39] Yeah San Fe New Mexico.

[00:29:40] I've only ever driven

[00:29:41] through it.

[00:29:41] Me too.

[00:29:42] Yeah it's beautiful.

[00:29:43] I mean everyone that

[00:29:44] goes and visits there

[00:29:45] loves it like that's

[00:29:46] not from there.

[00:29:47] It's just a very

[00:29:48] old town so like

[00:29:51] there's not many young

[00:29:51] people there the average

[00:29:52] age is like in the

[00:29:53] 50s.

[00:29:54] So you know everyone

[00:29:56] it's a retired city

[00:29:57] and then with that

[00:29:57] there's a lot of people

[00:29:58] from California from Texas

[00:29:59] like moving there.

[00:30:01] And so the market

[00:30:03] right now to live there

[00:30:04] it's like so high

[00:30:05] to live there like you

[00:30:06] people my age just

[00:30:08] aren't able to live

[00:30:09] there because we're

[00:30:10] getting out of school

[00:30:11] and it's like we're not

[00:30:12] making six figures

[00:30:14] at school so it's like

[00:30:15] so it's more than Denver.

[00:30:17] I would say actually

[00:30:19] probably like it's

[00:30:21] like it's probably

[00:30:21] like a Cherry Creek.

[00:30:22] Wow.

[00:30:23] So like around that

[00:30:24] kind of a price range

[00:30:25] like I was looking

[00:30:26] at apartments just to

[00:30:27] look at like what

[00:30:29] the market's looking

[00:30:30] like right now because

[00:30:31] when we moved into

[00:30:32] our apartment complex

[00:30:33] it was a lot cheaper

[00:30:34] and I was just looking

[00:30:36] at the apartment

[00:30:36] just to see.

[00:30:38] And for a one bedroom

[00:30:39] it's what a little

[00:30:40] around what we're paying

[00:30:41] for our two bedroom

[00:30:42] and I'm like

[00:30:43] dang it's gotten

[00:30:44] so much more expensive

[00:30:45] and that's kind of

[00:30:46] where the market's

[00:30:46] at in Santa Fe.

[00:30:47] So I would say

[00:30:47] it's like around

[00:30:49] there for sure.

[00:30:50] I wouldn't guess that

[00:30:50] but I don't know

[00:30:51] much about New Mexico.

[00:30:52] Oh it's rich.

[00:30:53] Yeah.

[00:30:53] Yeah.

[00:30:53] Santa Fe is rich.

[00:30:54] Not everywhere.

[00:30:55] Like you definitely

[00:30:56] drive through Albuquerque.

[00:30:57] I would not recommend

[00:30:58] everyone anyone to go

[00:30:59] there living there myself.

[00:31:01] Albuquerque?

[00:31:01] Yeah it wasn't the best

[00:31:03] experience.

[00:31:03] A lot of crime?

[00:31:04] A lot of crime.

[00:31:05] Yeah I lived at these

[00:31:09] this like housing place

[00:31:10] called we called it

[00:31:11] the cottages.

[00:31:12] OK.

[00:31:13] Didn't don't really

[00:31:14] but it was actually

[00:31:15] it was a cottage

[00:31:16] but it wasn't quaint.

[00:31:17] No they were like

[00:31:19] but they were like town

[00:31:20] homes.

[00:31:21] I'm like they were

[00:31:21] like town homes

[00:31:22] but.

[00:31:24] Kind of turned me off

[00:31:25] because there was

[00:31:26] these guys that moved

[00:31:27] into my my home

[00:31:28] that I was living

[00:31:29] in for a year.

[00:31:30] My roommates moved out.

[00:31:31] They all moved

[00:31:31] into an apartment together.

[00:31:33] Except for one.

[00:31:34] And it was just me

[00:31:34] and him these guys move in

[00:31:36] and I just felt like

[00:31:37] weird energy.

[00:31:38] I'm very like

[00:31:39] you do you

[00:31:40] what you have to do

[00:31:41] with your life

[00:31:41] but also like

[00:31:42] if you're coming into my space

[00:31:43] respect my space too

[00:31:44] and I've already been living here

[00:31:46] and first day

[00:31:47] they asked me about

[00:31:48] like if they could have a gun

[00:31:49] and I was like

[00:31:51] I don't know these people.

[00:31:52] Yeah that's a little

[00:31:53] uncomfortable

[00:31:54] but I was like

[00:31:55] I mean you're paying rent here.

[00:31:56] This is your home like

[00:31:58] it's kind of like

[00:31:58] a weird question to ask.

[00:32:00] Yeah because as a gun owner

[00:32:01] right when you're moving in

[00:32:02] asking for permission.

[00:32:03] You know just hide it

[00:32:05] like don't make it a thing.

[00:32:06] Keep it like hidden

[00:32:07] you know.

[00:32:08] Yeah you don't really talk about it.

[00:32:09] Yeah and then that's what he said

[00:32:11] was like I'll leave it hidden

[00:32:12] and then

[00:32:14] literally like a week later

[00:32:15] find it.

[00:32:16] I come downstairs

[00:32:17] and it's on the kitchen counter

[00:32:19] just sitting there

[00:32:20] and I'm like

[00:32:20] oh that's a no for me.

[00:32:21] Like I just don't like that.

[00:32:23] I'm like I don't care what you do

[00:32:25] but yeah just

[00:32:26] it's my space too.

[00:32:26] Well it could be dangerous

[00:32:27] like

[00:32:28] you don't know who's going to be in.

[00:32:29] And that's a common area.

[00:32:30] Yeah it's a common area.

[00:32:30] That's dangerous.

[00:32:32] You can't do that.

[00:32:33] You don't want to leave.

[00:32:33] Oh but get this.

[00:32:34] It gets worse

[00:32:35] because then I end up

[00:32:36] moving out.

[00:32:37] I moved to another little unit

[00:32:38] that's in that same area

[00:32:41] and like

[00:32:42] no kidding like

[00:32:43] a few days after that

[00:32:45] I move out.

[00:32:45] There's a shooting.

[00:32:47] OK.

[00:32:48] In the apartment

[00:32:49] that I was in.

[00:32:49] Really?

[00:32:50] That I was in.

[00:32:50] Yeah.

[00:32:51] And it wasn't any of the guys

[00:32:52] that moved in.

[00:32:53] Yeah it was like this guy

[00:32:54] had like an automatic weapon

[00:32:56] and was just shooting people.

[00:32:57] There was blood all over the

[00:32:58] sidewalks.

[00:32:58] I don't know how many people got

[00:33:00] like shot.

[00:33:00] I don't think anyone died.

[00:33:02] But he ran into

[00:33:04] where I was living

[00:33:06] and that's where the cops went

[00:33:07] found him.

[00:33:09] He was trying to flush the

[00:33:09] bullets and stuff down the

[00:33:11] toilet.

[00:33:11] And so then everyone that was

[00:33:12] living there got questioned

[00:33:13] since he ran in there

[00:33:14] and they were his friends.

[00:33:16] So like I was like

[00:33:17] thank God I'm not living

[00:33:18] there.

[00:33:18] I don't have to been

[00:33:19] questioned by the cops

[00:33:19] and all this stuff.

[00:33:20] And that would just been so

[00:33:21] much extra like

[00:33:22] unnecessary drop.

[00:33:23] Stress.

[00:33:23] Yeah stress in my life.

[00:33:25] You know.

[00:33:25] So I don't know.

[00:33:27] Some people are just getting

[00:33:28] involved in the wrong things.

[00:33:29] Yeah that's no good.

[00:33:30] You know you're always going

[00:33:30] to have some sort of crime

[00:33:31] and filth and people

[00:33:33] just not having respect for the

[00:33:34] community and others.

[00:33:35] You know I don't know if we're

[00:33:36] ever going to get away from

[00:33:37] that. But yeah I mean what a

[00:33:38] roommate situation which I

[00:33:39] haven't done in a long long

[00:33:39] time.

[00:33:40] Yeah that would be kind of

[00:33:40] alarming.

[00:33:41] It definitely was and it's

[00:33:43] like Albuquerque is just

[00:33:44] known for like crime.

[00:33:46] I mean New Mexico is kind

[00:33:47] of like known for crime.

[00:33:48] If you look it up we're

[00:33:49] pretty much at the top

[00:33:51] per capita for

[00:33:53] crime.

[00:33:53] And I think we were number

[00:33:54] one for per capita of

[00:33:57] police calls this past year.

[00:33:58] That's interesting.

[00:33:59] I think the only thing I

[00:34:00] know about New Mexico is I

[00:34:01] love green chili.

[00:34:02] Oh yeah.

[00:34:02] We definitely have the best

[00:34:03] green chili.

[00:34:04] That is definitely something

[00:34:05] that we do have.

[00:34:05] It's so good.

[00:34:06] My co-host from Massagas is

[00:34:07] from Albuquerque.

[00:34:08] He was born there went to

[00:34:10] school and then moved to

[00:34:10] Denver and other places.

[00:34:11] But so like he got me into

[00:34:13] green chili big time.

[00:34:14] Your brother did too.

[00:34:15] I was like the first time I

[00:34:16] tasted it.

[00:34:17] And then like I've tasted

[00:34:18] not good green chili and

[00:34:19] I'm like no New Mexico has

[00:34:20] it dialed.

[00:34:21] Oh yeah.

[00:34:23] People say that Colorado

[00:34:23] green chili is better and

[00:34:24] I'm like.

[00:34:25] It's not.

[00:34:25] No it's not.

[00:34:26] See I've never eaten green

[00:34:27] chili in New Mexico though.

[00:34:28] Oh it's so good.

[00:34:28] Like in the state.

[00:34:30] Oh yeah.

[00:34:30] I have to do it.

[00:34:31] Oh OK.

[00:34:33] What's different about it.

[00:34:33] Like what's different.

[00:34:34] It's like fresh.

[00:34:35] It's they roast it and

[00:34:36] it's like you get that

[00:34:37] fresh roasted green chili.

[00:34:39] My grandma makes the best

[00:34:40] green chili.

[00:34:40] Now are you doing pork on

[00:34:42] a fork or are you more

[00:34:42] green chili sauce?

[00:34:43] Yes exactly.

[00:34:44] So like the way that they

[00:34:45] do it out here is not

[00:34:46] how we do it.

[00:34:47] It's like you know kind

[00:34:48] of like my grandma the

[00:34:49] way she does it is she

[00:34:50] cuts it up into like small

[00:34:52] like cubey pieces.

[00:34:54] And then there is like

[00:34:54] the liquid in there that

[00:34:55] she has and makes it

[00:34:56] kind of more like a stew.

[00:34:58] Yeah.

[00:34:58] So rather than with the

[00:35:00] pork in it and all that

[00:35:01] stuff.

[00:35:01] So good.

[00:35:02] So.

[00:35:02] Oh yeah.

[00:35:03] I can eat green chili

[00:35:04] once a week at least.

[00:35:05] Oh yeah.

[00:35:05] Just a big bowl of it

[00:35:06] with some shredded cheese

[00:35:06] and tortillas.

[00:35:07] Oh yeah.

[00:35:07] It's so good and

[00:35:09] they smother a

[00:35:09] burrito in it.

[00:35:10] Man oh yeah I got to

[00:35:11] tip my hat to New

[00:35:11] Mexico for that.

[00:35:12] Hatch Valley right?

[00:35:13] Yes Hatch.

[00:35:14] I would say that like

[00:35:15] a really good place here

[00:35:16] in Denver that has some

[00:35:17] really good green

[00:35:18] chili is Sam's number

[00:35:19] three.

[00:35:20] OK.

[00:35:20] Yeah that's what I get

[00:35:21] when I go there.

[00:35:22] I'm like I always get

[00:35:22] the burrito I get like

[00:35:23] a side of the green and

[00:35:24] I'm like just pretty good.

[00:35:26] It's pretty good.

[00:35:26] They use hatch green

[00:35:27] chili so I'm like

[00:35:28] that's my thing.

[00:35:29] It's not like home though

[00:35:30] like for me like

[00:35:30] New England clam chowder

[00:35:31] right because I grew up

[00:35:32] in New England.

[00:35:32] I've had good clam

[00:35:33] chowder out here but

[00:35:34] it's not New England

[00:35:34] clam chowder like

[00:35:35] in New England.

[00:35:36] You got to get a fresh

[00:35:37] bowl of the chowder.

[00:35:38] That's the good stuff.

[00:35:39] Yeah I mean when you're

[00:35:40] when you're on the

[00:35:40] coastline you got to

[00:35:42] like have the local food.

[00:35:44] Yeah get the local

[00:35:45] food where you're from.

[00:35:46] I mean that's like why

[00:35:47] it's like there's some

[00:35:48] good sushi in Denver.

[00:35:49] Like don't get me

[00:35:50] don't get me wrong but

[00:35:51] like we're so far

[00:35:53] away from the coast.

[00:35:54] But like air travel

[00:35:55] gets it here quick

[00:35:56] but you know

[00:35:57] it's not compared to

[00:35:58] sushi like in California

[00:36:00] like you know if

[00:36:01] you're actually in Japan.

[00:36:02] I was gonna say go

[00:36:02] to Tokyo.

[00:36:02] I would love to go

[00:36:03] I would love to go

[00:36:04] to Japan.

[00:36:04] That'd be really cool.

[00:36:05] You haven't?

[00:36:06] Have you ever

[00:36:07] international traveled?

[00:36:08] Yeah I actually saw

[00:36:09] Beyonce in Vancouver.

[00:36:11] So that was that

[00:36:11] and then I also

[00:36:12] have been to Cabo

[00:36:13] but I have not gone

[00:36:14] to like Europe

[00:36:15] or like across.

[00:36:16] Yeah I've been over

[00:36:17] there either.

[00:36:17] I'd like to get over

[00:36:18] there.

[00:36:18] Been to Mexico.

[00:36:20] I liked it down

[00:36:20] there had fun.

[00:36:21] Drank too much got

[00:36:21] super sun burnt.

[00:36:23] That's what you do in Mexico.

[00:36:24] Classic.

[00:36:25] Yeah for sure.

[00:36:25] Mexico is definitely

[00:36:26] a fun time.

[00:36:27] It is.

[00:36:28] So I'm actually gonna go

[00:36:28] to Vancouver

[00:36:29] beginning of next month

[00:36:30] for a work trip.

[00:36:31] So that's gonna be great.

[00:36:32] Never been there.

[00:36:32] You're gonna love it.

[00:36:33] It's so cool.

[00:36:34] It is so cool.

[00:36:35] I kind of like

[00:36:36] thought of it as

[00:36:38] outdoorsy New York.

[00:36:40] Outdoorsy New York.

[00:36:41] I've never been in New York.

[00:36:42] Okay.

[00:36:42] So there's like big

[00:36:43] buildings and the way

[00:36:44] that like the layout

[00:36:45] is is like

[00:36:46] you're walking

[00:36:47] and there's like

[00:36:47] a little side store

[00:36:48] and then there's a little

[00:36:49] like everything is like

[00:36:50] connected on the street

[00:36:51] you know.

[00:36:51] So you're just walking

[00:36:52] and you just like find

[00:36:53] like a cute little restaurant

[00:36:54] and then you walk in

[00:36:55] and there's like a big

[00:36:55] old restaurant in there

[00:36:56] and you're like

[00:36:57] this doesn't even look

[00:36:57] from outside like

[00:36:58] there would be anything

[00:36:59] in here.

[00:36:59] Really?

[00:37:00] Yeah and that's kind of

[00:37:00] like how I saw New York.

[00:37:01] Like there was like the

[00:37:02] pizza shops

[00:37:03] and all that stuff

[00:37:04] in Vancouver too.

[00:37:05] And so

[00:37:07] I didn't know it

[00:37:07] was like that.

[00:37:08] When I was going out

[00:37:08] there I thought it was

[00:37:09] gonna be very

[00:37:10] outdoorsy hiking vibes

[00:37:12] and then

[00:37:12] I went by myself

[00:37:13] so I was like walking

[00:37:14] and I'm like

[00:37:15] this is really cool.

[00:37:17] Like it's like a cool city.

[00:37:18] I want to go back

[00:37:19] because I only went

[00:37:20] for a couple nights

[00:37:20] to see Beyonce

[00:37:22] but I want to go back

[00:37:23] for like

[00:37:24] a longer period of time

[00:37:25] to actually enjoy it.

[00:37:26] For sure.

[00:37:27] How long are you going for?

[00:37:28] I'll be there for a week.

[00:37:29] So I'll be working

[00:37:30] during the day

[00:37:31] and then they encourage me

[00:37:32] to do an extra day

[00:37:33] which I'm definitely

[00:37:33] gonna do.

[00:37:34] Yeah.

[00:37:34] I just have to pay

[00:37:35] for the hotel

[00:37:36] that extra day.

[00:37:36] Yeah seafood.

[00:37:37] Definitely seafood.

[00:37:37] I mean I'm trying

[00:37:38] to think of food

[00:37:38] that would be known

[00:37:39] in Vancouver.

[00:37:40] I mean

[00:37:41] what they were all telling me

[00:37:43] was like try

[00:37:44] some American places too

[00:37:45] like a McDonald's

[00:37:46] or like a fast food place

[00:37:47] because you can see

[00:37:48] how much better quality

[00:37:49] theirs is.

[00:37:50] Interesting.

[00:37:51] I was like

[00:37:51] I don't think that's the thing

[00:37:52] but all of them

[00:37:53] swore about it.

[00:37:53] They were like no

[00:37:54] it's like we don't have

[00:37:55] all the additives

[00:37:56] and all the stuff

[00:37:56] that Americans put

[00:37:58] in their foods.

[00:37:58] So they're like

[00:37:59] it's better.

[00:38:00] I didn't try it

[00:38:01] so I can't speak on it

[00:38:02] and give my opinion.

[00:38:03] I've been on a McDonald's band

[00:38:04] for like

[00:38:05] over two years

[00:38:07] almost.

[00:38:07] Wow.

[00:38:07] Since it's been

[00:38:08] since I had McDonald's.

[00:38:09] It wrecks my stomach.

[00:38:10] Yeah.

[00:38:10] It does.

[00:38:11] Can't eat it.

[00:38:11] So like I'm curious

[00:38:12] because like you know

[00:38:14] I grew up on those

[00:38:15] those McDoubles

[00:38:16] and the spicy chicken.

[00:38:17] Before they started putting

[00:38:18] you know it's made

[00:38:19] with real cancer.

[00:38:20] Yeah.

[00:38:22] I mean there's something there.

[00:38:23] That's messed up.

[00:38:24] There's something in there

[00:38:25] and it's not good.

[00:38:25] People are like

[00:38:26] the line is backed up right now.

[00:38:28] Yeah.

[00:38:28] You know it's backed up.

[00:38:30] I mean

[00:38:31] hey if you want to eat it

[00:38:31] that's your choice

[00:38:32] but I just

[00:38:32] yeah there's

[00:38:33] something going on with that.

[00:38:34] Oh I still eat it.

[00:38:35] I'm like that's the only place

[00:38:36] that's open

[00:38:37] when I get off of my shifts.

[00:38:38] What are you gonna get?

[00:38:40] I'm probably gonna get.

[00:38:40] Nuggets.

[00:38:41] I'm gonna get

[00:38:42] some count of nuggets.

[00:38:43] I don't know if I'm gonna get

[00:38:44] the four or the six.

[00:38:45] Probably not a lot though

[00:38:46] because they get old fast.

[00:38:47] They get soggy.

[00:38:48] They're not good later.

[00:38:49] Their fries aren't good later either.

[00:38:50] Hot and crispy.

[00:38:51] God no.

[00:38:52] But I'm gonna get the nuggets

[00:38:53] the certain count.

[00:38:54] I don't know which one.

[00:38:55] And then

[00:38:56] I'll probably get a large fry

[00:38:57] because I love the fries.

[00:38:58] Yeah hot and salty.

[00:39:00] Maybe a blue powerade

[00:39:01] and like a couple hamburgers.

[00:39:02] Okay.

[00:39:03] But I'm picky.

[00:39:04] So I only eat hamburgers

[00:39:05] with the pickle.

[00:39:05] I love a very dry hamburger.

[00:39:07] Oh okay interesting.

[00:39:08] No mustard no mayo.

[00:39:09] No cheese.

[00:39:10] Just a burger

[00:39:11] pickle and bread.

[00:39:12] Yeah.

[00:39:12] Really?

[00:39:13] Really huh?

[00:39:13] Like I don't order

[00:39:14] the cheeseburger.

[00:39:15] I'm like can I just have like a

[00:39:16] regular hamburger

[00:39:17] pickles only.

[00:39:18] That's

[00:39:18] my go to.

[00:39:19] And it's so good.

[00:39:20] Interesting.

[00:39:21] I've never tried that.

[00:39:21] Now have you ever been to Bud's

[00:39:22] Bar in Sedalia?

[00:39:24] Okay.

[00:39:25] I still haven't either.

[00:39:25] I've been here 15 years.

[00:39:26] Oh my god.

[00:39:27] So I know I've talked about this

[00:39:28] on this show before.

[00:39:29] So all the

[00:39:30] long time listeners

[00:39:31] you know where I'm going with this.

[00:39:32] But this place has

[00:39:33] the best burgers.

[00:39:35] They're cash only.

[00:39:37] It's been around since like the 40s.

[00:39:38] It's been around forever.

[00:39:41] They only have

[00:39:42] a cheeseburger.

[00:39:43] No a hamburger.

[00:39:44] A double hamburger.

[00:39:46] Cheeseburger.

[00:39:46] Double cheeseburger.

[00:39:47] That's the entire menu.

[00:39:49] Keep it simple.

[00:39:49] You can get like a

[00:39:50] bag of chips with it.

[00:39:51] There's no fries.

[00:39:53] And they serve it with pickles

[00:39:54] and onions.

[00:39:55] And then they have mustard

[00:39:57] and ketchup on the side

[00:39:58] if you want to put it on.

[00:39:59] That's so it's super simple.

[00:40:02] And honestly like

[00:40:03] you have to eat it there though.

[00:40:04] Yeah.

[00:40:05] Like I've taken them

[00:40:06] so other people could try it

[00:40:07] like and it just wasn't as good

[00:40:09] after that 30 minute car ride.

[00:40:10] Yeah.

[00:40:11] So you go in there.

[00:40:12] Cash only.

[00:40:13] Cash only.

[00:40:14] Have some cash.

[00:40:16] Bud's Bar Sedalia.

[00:40:17] That's going to be one of the best

[00:40:19] burgers you get.

[00:40:19] You could like go on a hike somewhere.

[00:40:22] You know there's like a bunch

[00:40:23] of different areas that you could

[00:40:25] hike that are south.

[00:40:26] Yeah.

[00:40:26] And so you go on a hike.

[00:40:27] It's a cool little town.

[00:40:27] And then take an extra 20

[00:40:28] minutes to drive there.

[00:40:30] And then that's like your post

[00:40:31] hike meal.

[00:40:32] And it's so much fun.

[00:40:34] Yeah.

[00:40:34] And it's so good too.

[00:40:36] I'm hungry thinking about it.

[00:40:37] I got to get down there.

[00:40:37] Yeah. Bud's Bar.

[00:40:38] We need to do that this summer.

[00:40:39] They have a.

[00:40:40] We got to do that.

[00:40:40] Like one of those machines in there

[00:40:41] you know where you can get the teddy bear.

[00:40:42] Like when the burn goes down.

[00:40:44] So my dad who's retiring.

[00:40:45] The claw.

[00:40:47] My dad's a little part time.

[00:40:48] He's getting ready to full time retire.

[00:40:50] Dad's done.

[00:40:50] He's going to go fishing and do all that.

[00:40:51] But that's what he was doing.

[00:40:52] He was going around servicing those

[00:40:54] machines that like grab the candy

[00:40:55] and the and the teddy bears and stuff.

[00:40:57] And that was one of his stops.

[00:40:59] So when you're down there next time

[00:41:00] you see that my dad service did.

[00:41:01] OK.

[00:41:02] That's going to keep that in mind.

[00:41:03] When we're when we're down there.

[00:41:04] Oh yeah.

[00:41:05] You're going to I'm going to go with it.

[00:41:06] We're down there.

[00:41:07] I'm going to have to go.

[00:41:08] Yeah.

[00:41:08] Bud's Bar is so good.

[00:41:09] But yeah interesting the plane

[00:41:11] plane burger.

[00:41:12] Pickle only.

[00:41:13] Yeah.

[00:41:13] Pickle only.

[00:41:14] I don't think that's my gig.

[00:41:17] And it's like here's the burger.

[00:41:18] You make your own burger.

[00:41:20] Those kinds of places are my favorite

[00:41:21] because I'm like I don't have to be

[00:41:22] that annoying picky person.

[00:41:23] That's like OK please leave all

[00:41:26] that stuff off.

[00:41:26] But technically you're making it easier.

[00:41:29] I am kind of.

[00:41:30] There's less things for them to do.

[00:41:32] So it's like that's how I felt.

[00:41:33] You're making it easier.

[00:41:35] But I don't know.

[00:41:36] I don't like to be like I don't

[00:41:38] like going out to a restaurant

[00:41:40] and being harder for the server

[00:41:43] because I kind of feel bad for the service

[00:41:44] industry because I know all the things

[00:41:45] that they go through as

[00:41:46] have you been a server.

[00:41:47] OK yeah.

[00:41:48] Oh yeah.

[00:41:48] Everybody should work in the in the

[00:41:50] restaurant industry.

[00:41:51] I was in the grocery for the same thing.

[00:41:52] Yeah.

[00:41:52] You got it.

[00:41:53] You got to do that at least once in your life.

[00:41:54] You have to.

[00:41:55] It gives you that perspective.

[00:41:56] And like I don't know

[00:41:58] the whole past like I said living

[00:42:00] in Denver I've really been living off

[00:42:01] of tips.

[00:42:02] So it's like I know what they go

[00:42:04] through as like people that work

[00:42:05] in that kind of an industry.

[00:42:06] So it's like I don't know.

[00:42:09] I don't want to ask them for all

[00:42:10] the special favors but also like

[00:42:12] I leave a good tip.

[00:42:13] So can you please.

[00:42:15] Like I'm picky.

[00:42:16] I promise like I'm not like

[00:42:18] a problem customer.

[00:42:19] Yeah.

[00:42:19] At least you're a good tipper.

[00:42:20] I always try to do that too because

[00:42:21] these people are working hard and

[00:42:23] especially when the pandemic was

[00:42:24] going on I tip pretty good

[00:42:25] because there was hardly any

[00:42:26] businesses open that were able to

[00:42:27] serve anything.

[00:42:29] So now being a good tipper goes

[00:42:30] a long way.

[00:42:30] Oh it does.

[00:42:31] It always comes back to you.

[00:42:32] Back to the universe thing like

[00:42:34] when you put the money out

[00:42:36] there I have found that like it

[00:42:38] always comes back and like then

[00:42:39] so.

[00:42:40] Yeah.

[00:42:40] So then I'm like I made all that

[00:42:42] money back and in a way it's like

[00:42:45] you're kind of trading those dollar

[00:42:46] bills but at the same time it's

[00:42:48] like you might be but it's also

[00:42:50] like you're you're building that

[00:42:51] love.

[00:42:52] You're building that sense of

[00:42:53] like community type of thing.

[00:42:54] I guess I know.

[00:42:55] So that's kind of just how I see

[00:42:56] it and try to dish it so that

[00:42:58] I can also receive return on

[00:43:00] investment.

[00:43:00] Exactly.

[00:43:01] You said you live on tip so

[00:43:02] let's kind of dive into what you

[00:43:03] do.

[00:43:03] OK.

[00:43:04] Perfect.

[00:43:04] So I am a go go dancer.

[00:43:08] I have been working at Charlie's

[00:43:10] Denver.

[00:43:11] OK.

[00:43:12] Since I moved here I went out on

[00:43:14] New Year's Eve of 2022 going into

[00:43:17] 2023.

[00:43:19] I was here for two days exactly.

[00:43:21] I came on a Wednesday and it was

[00:43:23] a three maybe it was like that

[00:43:25] Saturday and

[00:43:28] I was going out alone.

[00:43:30] My roommate was a nurse.

[00:43:31] She had she is a nurse so she

[00:43:32] had to work that night and

[00:43:35] I got hammered before I went out

[00:43:38] like so drunk because I was so

[00:43:40] nervous.

[00:43:40] I'm like in a new city like I'm

[00:43:42] going out to a gay bar and I'm

[00:43:44] like oh my God what if like no

[00:43:45] one likes me.

[00:43:46] What if I don't make friends like

[00:43:47] it's New Year's Eve.

[00:43:48] What if I don't get a kiss

[00:43:49] whatever.

[00:43:49] Like I was just like in your

[00:43:50] head all in my head.

[00:43:51] So I'm like let's just keep

[00:43:52] taking shots at home.

[00:43:53] I'll get my Uber.

[00:43:54] I'll get there.

[00:43:55] I'll be good to go.

[00:43:56] So then do exactly that.

[00:43:58] I get there.

[00:43:58] I'm already drunk.

[00:44:00] I get to X bar.

[00:44:02] Love X bar.

[00:44:03] And it's right by Charlie's

[00:44:05] both on Colfax.

[00:44:07] OK.

[00:44:08] And so go there.

[00:44:10] Keep drinking.

[00:44:10] That's where I had my like New

[00:44:11] Year's Eve ticket for.

[00:44:13] OK.

[00:44:13] And then these this group of guys

[00:44:14] I met were like we're going to

[00:44:16] go to Charlie's.

[00:44:17] I'm like I don't know what that

[00:44:18] is but I'm drunk.

[00:44:19] I'm going to follow.

[00:44:20] So I just follow these guys.

[00:44:22] We go over there and then

[00:44:25] a dancer that just so happened

[00:44:27] to be from New Mexico was

[00:44:28] dancing and I was like

[00:44:30] I don't remember how it

[00:44:31] happened but he ended up

[00:44:32] pulling me up and I started

[00:44:34] dancing on the like little

[00:44:35] box.

[00:44:36] You were totally loose by the

[00:44:37] time you got here.

[00:44:38] Oh what a thousand percent.

[00:44:39] You went full coyote ugly.

[00:44:41] Exactly.

[00:44:42] I did.

[00:44:43] And I was living the fantasy

[00:44:44] and then I was like how do I

[00:44:45] get a job here?

[00:44:46] And he was like go talk to our

[00:44:47] manager.

[00:44:48] So I went up to him.

[00:44:50] Shout out.

[00:44:50] Yo Han.

[00:44:51] Love him.

[00:44:51] What's up Yo Han?

[00:44:52] Yes.

[00:44:53] And that night gave me his

[00:44:55] number.

[00:44:56] Texted him that Monday.

[00:44:57] They like to do Undie Mondays

[00:44:59] is what they call it.

[00:45:00] So if you come here

[00:45:01] underwear you can girl or guy

[00:45:03] whatever.

[00:45:05] This place sounds fun.

[00:45:05] Yeah it's really fun.

[00:45:06] I love it.

[00:45:07] Straight people go there all

[00:45:08] the time.

[00:45:08] It's just a great vibe.

[00:45:09] Good energy.

[00:45:11] Yeah so Monday Undies.

[00:45:13] Undie Mondays they want us to

[00:45:15] like that's the audition

[00:45:17] night because like if you

[00:45:18] look good in your underwear

[00:45:19] while there's other people

[00:45:20] in their underwear and you're

[00:45:21] like getting money then like

[00:45:22] they see it as like you're

[00:45:24] a performer like you're out

[00:45:25] there.

[00:45:26] You're going to make us some

[00:45:26] money.

[00:45:26] You're going to our job is

[00:45:28] really to keep the party

[00:45:29] going.

[00:45:29] So it's like we're kind of

[00:45:30] like the party I would say.

[00:45:32] I think we are.

[00:45:33] Yes.

[00:45:33] So yeah go on that Undie

[00:45:35] Monday got the job right

[00:45:36] then and there and I haven't

[00:45:38] looked back.

[00:45:39] I love it.

[00:45:39] It's like a release for me to

[00:45:41] get to go there and like just

[00:45:44] enjoy myself dance be free.

[00:45:45] I'm in my own space.

[00:45:46] Like I'm not really thinking

[00:45:47] about anything other than

[00:45:48] the music and it's like just

[00:45:50] so much fun.

[00:45:51] And then did that worked at

[00:45:53] Triangle.

[00:45:54] I don't know if you guys

[00:45:55] have ever heard of Triangle

[00:45:56] but that was another gay

[00:45:56] club.

[00:45:57] It did close down.

[00:45:58] So worked there for a

[00:45:59] little did some pride gigs

[00:46:01] last year for Pride.

[00:46:03] And then my friend his name

[00:46:06] is David.

[00:46:06] Shout out David again.

[00:46:08] He was the one that was

[00:46:09] helping me out with a lot of

[00:46:10] gigs and like putting my name

[00:46:11] out there when I moved here.

[00:46:12] I didn't really know anyone

[00:46:12] and knew a lot of people.

[00:46:14] So we'll forever be grateful

[00:46:16] for that.

[00:46:17] Well for Pride he asked me

[00:46:19] to like I was wanting to

[00:46:23] work at Hamburger Murray's

[00:46:24] where he works and the job

[00:46:25] description is a little

[00:46:26] different there.

[00:46:27] OK but they do brunches on

[00:46:28] Saturday Sundays voted the

[00:46:30] best drag show in Denver

[00:46:32] for the past couple years

[00:46:32] now.

[00:46:33] That's fine.

[00:46:33] That's my friend Jessica

[00:46:34] Lahore show.

[00:46:37] Anywho I was always going

[00:46:38] to watch him do the show

[00:46:39] and kind of sitting in

[00:46:40] the crowd.

[00:46:40] I was telling them I'm

[00:46:41] a go-go.

[00:46:41] I'm interested in kind of

[00:46:42] trying to get involved

[00:46:43] with brunch too.

[00:46:45] One of the go-gos I was

[00:46:46] working that brunch for

[00:46:47] Pride weekend walked out

[00:46:49] for the second brunch.

[00:46:50] I was sitting there.

[00:46:51] I luckily had some under

[00:46:52] some cute underwear on

[00:46:53] just in case they wanted

[00:46:55] to see what I could do.

[00:46:56] And the manager was there

[00:46:57] and they needed another

[00:46:58] shop boy.

[00:46:59] And so I said I'm sitting

[00:47:00] right here.

[00:47:01] I will work for tips.

[00:47:02] You don't need to give me

[00:47:03] the hourly just work for

[00:47:04] tips and did the brunch.

[00:47:07] It was so much fun.

[00:47:08] And yeah, once again like

[00:47:09] that, I work that brunch

[00:47:10] now at Hamburger Mary's

[00:47:12] every Saturday and have

[00:47:14] done that since July last

[00:47:16] year.

[00:47:16] So that's my Saturday

[00:47:18] gig.

[00:47:18] And that's probably like

[00:47:20] the best part of my week

[00:47:22] because Jessica Lahore

[00:47:24] is someone that I have

[00:47:26] ended up becoming a very

[00:47:27] good friend with.

[00:47:28] She's a drag queen,

[00:47:29] very prominent drag queen

[00:47:30] here in Denver.

[00:47:32] And she just like looks

[00:47:33] out for our community

[00:47:34] as a whole.

[00:47:35] Like she just wants to

[00:47:36] like uplift entertainers

[00:47:38] doesn't matter if you do

[00:47:38] drag or go go dancing,

[00:47:41] you sing whatever your

[00:47:41] talent is.

[00:47:42] She's if you're a part

[00:47:43] of our community,

[00:47:44] she's really trying

[00:47:44] to build it.

[00:47:45] You're an ally.

[00:47:46] She's trying to build

[00:47:46] you up to like very

[00:47:48] loving, very awesome

[00:47:49] person.

[00:47:49] So I've just like kind

[00:47:51] of looked forward to

[00:47:52] that every week.

[00:47:54] I don't know.

[00:47:54] It's like I get to go

[00:47:55] on Saturday and hang out

[00:47:57] with Jessica and have

[00:47:58] a really fun show

[00:47:59] and get to meet new

[00:48:00] people every week and

[00:48:02] hear their experiences

[00:48:03] too.

[00:48:04] It's I mean my networking

[00:48:05] has really gone

[00:48:07] through the jobs.

[00:48:08] And I love it.

[00:48:09] I love talking to people

[00:48:10] and meeting people.

[00:48:11] So that's awesome.

[00:48:11] No, that's a great

[00:48:12] breakdown on what you do.

[00:48:14] So out of all the

[00:48:15] questions that I have

[00:48:16] right now,

[00:48:17] the one I got to know

[00:48:18] the most is what

[00:48:20] brand of underwear?

[00:48:23] OK, so wait.

[00:48:25] And if they're fun

[00:48:26] underwear,

[00:48:27] then we call them

[00:48:28] Funderware.

[00:48:28] Funderware.

[00:48:29] So were you wearing

[00:48:29] some Funderware?

[00:48:30] I'm wearing some

[00:48:31] Funderware.

[00:48:32] Always wearing some

[00:48:33] Funderware.

[00:48:34] I only have underwear.

[00:48:35] A very good brand,

[00:48:37] I would say, is Candyman.

[00:48:39] That's one of my favorites.

[00:48:41] They have a few that are

[00:48:43] like on the roster

[00:48:44] pair of Funderware.

[00:48:45] So there's like pairs

[00:48:46] that help you

[00:48:48] like with the package

[00:48:49] and flattering it.

[00:48:50] Like the banana hammock?

[00:48:50] Right. OK.

[00:48:51] Yeah. Well, for me,

[00:48:53] I'm more

[00:48:54] I have a pretty nice

[00:48:56] butt, I would say.

[00:48:57] So I look for underwear

[00:48:59] that more so is going to

[00:48:59] accentuate that.

[00:49:01] OK.

[00:49:01] OK.

[00:49:02] Do you like the

[00:49:02] assless ones or is it?

[00:49:03] Oh yeah.

[00:49:04] But you have to always.

[00:49:05] So as go-go's,

[00:49:06] if you are

[00:49:07] if it's a club that is selling

[00:49:08] alcohol,

[00:49:09] you are not allowed

[00:49:10] to get nude.

[00:49:11] So things like

[00:49:13] booty hole,

[00:49:15] genitals,

[00:49:16] has to be covered,

[00:49:17] nipples for women,

[00:49:18] but not guys.

[00:49:19] Yeah, which is

[00:49:20] like what's

[00:49:20] like general?

[00:49:21] Like that's like

[00:49:22] kind of the thing.

[00:49:23] But I don't get that.

[00:49:24] It doesn't make sense

[00:49:24] because Europe doesn't

[00:49:25] do that, do they?

[00:49:26] I don't know.

[00:49:27] Europe, yeah.

[00:49:28] I don't think they do.

[00:49:29] They're like, whatever,

[00:49:29] we're taking the tops off.

[00:49:30] Yeah.

[00:49:30] Yeah.

[00:49:30] So there's like certain

[00:49:31] things that you can't

[00:49:32] show, but like

[00:49:34] that's like my thing

[00:49:35] is very much that.

[00:49:36] And then I also make my own

[00:49:37] underwear, costumes.

[00:49:39] Oh really?

[00:49:39] Yeah.

[00:49:39] That's OK.

[00:49:40] So it was candy wear?

[00:49:42] Candy Man.

[00:49:42] Candy Man.

[00:49:43] And there's like

[00:49:44] the main

[00:49:45] like gay brand.

[00:49:47] Like everyone has a pair

[00:49:49] of Andrew Christian

[00:49:50] underwear.

[00:49:50] Like that's like

[00:49:51] a really popular

[00:49:53] brand as well, for sure.

[00:49:54] Interesting.

[00:49:55] Learning all these things.

[00:49:55] How about like

[00:49:56] because I've been loving

[00:49:57] pair of thieves

[00:49:58] for a while now.

[00:49:58] You know, you just

[00:49:59] get them at Target,

[00:50:00] but I feel like

[00:50:01] they're so comfortable.

[00:50:02] They are so comfortable.

[00:50:02] And like since I've been

[00:50:03] trying other underwears,

[00:50:05] like they just don't

[00:50:06] have like the same

[00:50:08] comfort.

[00:50:08] I haven't tried the Duluth.

[00:50:09] No, I haven't tried the Duluth.

[00:50:10] I've been rocking Duluth,

[00:50:11] the buck naked ones.

[00:50:12] OK, that's what they call them.

[00:50:13] Feels like nothing's there.

[00:50:14] That's like their sales pitch.

[00:50:15] So free plug for Duluth.

[00:50:16] I'm wearing these undies.

[00:50:18] Now not the same undies.

[00:50:19] I do watch them

[00:50:20] and I have other pairs

[00:50:20] and other colors.

[00:50:21] But I've been like

[00:50:22] two, three years now.

[00:50:22] Won't go won't change it up.

[00:50:24] OK, you know,

[00:50:25] what cuts of underwear

[00:50:26] are we wearing?

[00:50:27] If you don't mind me asking.

[00:50:28] Yeah, it's like a breeze.

[00:50:29] Yeah.

[00:50:29] OK, yeah.

[00:50:30] It goes down probably,

[00:50:31] It's not like a boxer.

[00:50:33] No, no, no.

[00:50:34] Definitely like the tight.

[00:50:35] Yeah, the tight boxer briefs.

[00:50:36] Yeah, it's still kind of loose

[00:50:38] in the area,

[00:50:38] but like kind of tight

[00:50:39] on the legs.

[00:50:39] Yeah, that's the one.

[00:50:40] That's the one.

[00:50:41] And honestly,

[00:50:42] if you could get them

[00:50:42] a little longer to wear

[00:50:43] and like if I'm wearing

[00:50:44] shorts like this

[00:50:44] and like the underwear

[00:50:45] comes like that's a cool look.

[00:50:47] Yeah, yeah.

[00:50:48] Yeah, because

[00:50:48] you could kind of get some

[00:50:49] fun to wear going

[00:50:50] that like matches

[00:50:50] your kicks or something.

[00:50:52] And then like you're

[00:50:53] like really styling on it.

[00:50:54] You know, it's just

[00:50:55] when you sit down,

[00:50:56] it's like it's like a subtle,

[00:50:57] subtle thing.

[00:50:58] It's like the sock game,

[00:51:00] but underwear.

[00:51:01] Oh, yeah.

[00:51:01] Socks are crucial.

[00:51:02] I'm crew cut all day.

[00:51:04] You think with boots,

[00:51:05] I would wear like the big

[00:51:05] the ones that come

[00:51:06] way up around.

[00:51:06] Yeah, really?

[00:51:07] Like my legs get hot in those.

[00:51:09] I can see the legs

[00:51:09] getting hot in those.

[00:51:10] Yeah, like the boots

[00:51:11] rub against my legs though.

[00:51:13] They do.

[00:51:13] Yeah, I get like

[00:51:14] battle wounds on my legs

[00:51:15] when I break in a boot

[00:51:16] for the first month.

[00:51:17] And then once that's done,

[00:51:18] they're so comfortable.

[00:51:19] That's the thing

[00:51:19] with cowboy boots.

[00:51:20] People like, man,

[00:51:20] these things are

[00:51:20] so uncomfortable.

[00:51:21] You got to break them in.

[00:51:22] Yeah.

[00:51:23] And then it's like these things

[00:51:24] are molded to your foot.

[00:51:25] Yeah, it's like one week

[00:51:27] of being uncomfortable.

[00:51:28] Yeah, it's a little brutal.

[00:51:29] So after and I'm going to kind of go back here

[00:51:32] after getting started

[00:51:33] because you started off

[00:51:35] the wild night for New Year's

[00:51:37] and then that was like

[00:51:38] your first experience

[00:51:39] and then you start

[00:51:40] and then you got the job

[00:51:41] after coming in on the underwear gig

[00:51:44] on the Undie Monday, right?

[00:51:46] Yeah.

[00:51:46] And then like so

[00:51:47] how was it

[00:51:48] because you said that

[00:51:49] it feels free,

[00:51:50] but was there like a transition

[00:51:51] where like you had to get comfortable?

[00:51:53] Oh, yeah.

[00:51:53] Just dancing and listening

[00:51:54] to the music

[00:51:55] and kind of just letting loose

[00:51:56] because I could see how

[00:51:57] that would be like

[00:51:58] a nice therapeutic release.

[00:51:59] Like you're moving,

[00:52:00] you're exercising your body.

[00:52:01] You're feeling confident, right?

[00:52:03] Because like sometimes

[00:52:06] I mean, if people are paying and stuff

[00:52:07] like you got to be feeling

[00:52:08] you feel it.

[00:52:09] But honestly, as a go-go,

[00:52:12] I'm learning that like

[00:52:13] people really think

[00:52:15] that we're like cocky, stuck up

[00:52:16] and like for lack of a better word, sluts.

[00:52:19] But like, OK,

[00:52:20] honestly, the go-go's

[00:52:22] that I work with

[00:52:23] and the go-go's that I know

[00:52:24] I don't consider any of them sluts.

[00:52:26] I don't really consider myself a slut.

[00:52:27] Like we don't sleep around

[00:52:28] with people like that.

[00:52:30] And like honestly,

[00:52:32] we're pretty I'm not

[00:52:33] going to speak for them.

[00:52:33] I'm going to speak for myself.

[00:52:34] Yes, I'm pretty insecure.

[00:52:35] Like I'm going to be honest.

[00:52:37] I do it,

[00:52:39] like I say, for the attention.

[00:52:40] I wouldn't be up there

[00:52:41] if I wouldn't want some attention.

[00:52:42] So of course,

[00:52:43] like when you get a dollar,

[00:52:44] like a five or especially

[00:52:45] like that one time,

[00:52:46] like the couple times

[00:52:47] you get the 20 or whatever,

[00:52:48] like, oh, you love it.

[00:52:49] And it makes you feel like so hot.

[00:52:51] And then you walk,

[00:52:51] you go home,

[00:52:52] you count your money and it's like,

[00:52:53] oh, I killed it.

[00:52:54] Like, yeah, you do feel confident.

[00:52:55] But at the same time,

[00:52:57] while you're still getting those

[00:52:58] like tips,

[00:53:00] there's also like the people

[00:53:01] that you look at

[00:53:02] that look at you

[00:53:03] with like complete disgust.

[00:53:04] And they're like,

[00:53:05] so no matter what as a go-go,

[00:53:07] you're getting judged.

[00:53:07] It's either good judgment

[00:53:08] or bad judgment.

[00:53:09] So it's like,

[00:53:10] yeah, you feel confident.

[00:53:11] But sometimes if it's

[00:53:12] like an off night,

[00:53:13] you don't really feel it.

[00:53:14] So going back to your question,

[00:53:16] like there was a transitional period

[00:53:17] where like every night

[00:53:19] I would have like two shots of tequila.

[00:53:21] OK, slam those down.

[00:53:22] Get a little loose.

[00:53:23] Exactly.

[00:53:24] Get up on the stage.

[00:53:25] I'd start dancing.

[00:53:26] And then like

[00:53:27] if I started getting tired

[00:53:28] because at Charlie's

[00:53:29] we do four hours

[00:53:30] of dancing nonstop.

[00:53:32] We don't get a break there.

[00:53:33] That is a lot.

[00:53:35] You can take a break,

[00:53:36] go talk to people a little bit,

[00:53:37] but basically get back up

[00:53:39] on the box and start dancing.

[00:53:40] So, you know, it's kind of hard.

[00:53:42] So I was doing shots

[00:53:44] to like keep me going,

[00:53:45] especially that tequila.

[00:53:46] I love me some tequila.

[00:53:47] What kind?

[00:53:48] Is it the clear clear?

[00:53:49] OK, yeah.

[00:53:50] Oh, yeah.

[00:53:51] Plata.

[00:53:51] Mm hmm.

[00:53:52] But like I said,

[00:53:53] I'm not really drinking anymore.

[00:53:54] So like,

[00:53:54] congratulations.

[00:53:55] Thank you.

[00:53:56] Yeah, that's a good milestone.

[00:53:57] Like it feels good

[00:53:59] once you start getting

[00:53:59] through that milestone.

[00:54:00] Like it's exciting.

[00:54:02] Better for the body.

[00:54:03] Yeah, it's actually like

[00:54:04] so I was actually also waking and baking.

[00:54:06] So it was like wake up,

[00:54:07] smoke, like go through my day.

[00:54:08] And now I'm like,

[00:54:10] no, don't even do that.

[00:54:12] So I'm really trying to

[00:54:13] like cut back on everything.

[00:54:15] Sober life.

[00:54:15] Yeah, sober life

[00:54:16] kind of sounds great to me.

[00:54:17] Like I agree.

[00:54:18] I'm partying as my job,

[00:54:21] like going out and stuff

[00:54:23] and getting to have fun.

[00:54:24] So I'm like,

[00:54:25] I don't really think

[00:54:25] I need all that other stuff.

[00:54:26] And so I don't know.

[00:54:28] I'm just trying to cut back.

[00:54:29] No congratulations.

[00:54:31] I'm kind of doing some of the same.

[00:54:33] I'm going to put down smoking for a while.

[00:54:36] I've been kind of on and off

[00:54:37] with booze more off recently.

[00:54:39] So I'm just going to put that down

[00:54:40] as well right now

[00:54:41] because I'm like cool

[00:54:43] with or without it.

[00:54:44] So and and Kev's

[00:54:45] making some some moves too, man.

[00:54:47] Like you kind of mentioned

[00:54:48] at the beginning of this episode.

[00:54:49] We're doing it.

[00:54:50] Yeah, you haven't had a beverage,

[00:54:52] alcohol beverage.

[00:54:53] This is your second week.

[00:54:54] Yeah, we do.

[00:54:54] And he does three shows a week.

[00:54:56] So it's not just like

[00:54:56] like one show.

[00:54:57] Yeah, no, feel good.

[00:54:58] You know,

[00:54:59] it's actually enjoying

[00:55:00] the experience more.

[00:55:00] I feel a bit more here

[00:55:01] and then now taking it all in.

[00:55:03] And that leads me to my next question

[00:55:05] because I want to learn

[00:55:06] about the go-go world.

[00:55:07] So have you ever had

[00:55:08] like weird requests?

[00:55:09] Like have people come in

[00:55:09] and be like, hey,

[00:55:11] I want you to do some weird shit.

[00:55:12] Oh, yeah.

[00:55:13] I mean, I wouldn't say that like

[00:55:16] uh the weirdest one I've gotten was

[00:55:19] so at Mary's my job

[00:55:20] is more like a shop boy.

[00:55:22] So we have our trays

[00:55:24] of like jello shots

[00:55:25] and we sell our jello shots

[00:55:26] and then, you know,

[00:55:27] specific to the show,

[00:55:28] we have different tasks that we do.

[00:55:31] And so for jello shots,

[00:55:33] they're there,

[00:55:34] they're three dollars each.

[00:55:35] But if you would like

[00:55:36] to take one off my body,

[00:55:37] you can take a body shot

[00:55:39] and that's going to be a little extra.

[00:55:40] But one time a guy came up to me

[00:55:42] and was like,

[00:55:43] will you baby bird it into my mouth?

[00:55:45] And I was like baby birded, baby bird it.

[00:55:47] And I was like,

[00:55:48] yeah, baby bird it in your mouth,

[00:55:49] not my mouth, but yours for sure.

[00:55:51] So yeah, take the shot out,

[00:55:53] put it in my mouth

[00:55:53] and I spit it in his mouth.

[00:55:55] OK.

[00:55:55] Got a nice tip.

[00:55:56] So, you know,

[00:55:57] whatever you got to do for some money.

[00:55:58] But like,

[00:55:59] that was probably the weirdest thing.

[00:56:01] I don't really get like

[00:56:03] honestly, I don't really get

[00:56:04] many propositions about like

[00:56:05] going home after

[00:56:07] and people trying to tip me,

[00:56:08] which is so good

[00:56:09] because not going to happen.

[00:56:11] Yeah, I don't mix clientele

[00:56:13] work generally with my jobs.

[00:56:16] Sometimes it happens.

[00:56:17] Keep it separate.

[00:56:18] Yeah, that's good.

[00:56:19] I'm like try to.

[00:56:20] Sometimes that happens for sure.

[00:56:21] Yeah, not really weird requests.

[00:56:22] I like to.

[00:56:23] I mean, we're not supposed

[00:56:24] to really like dance on people and stuff.

[00:56:26] But if someone gives me a 10,

[00:56:28] I'm not going to give them

[00:56:29] the same treatment as someone

[00:56:30] that give me a one.

[00:56:30] So like I like to dance on people

[00:56:32] sometimes that kind of stuff,

[00:56:34] but like not really weird.

[00:56:35] I wouldn't say there's not

[00:56:36] I have myself have not gotten

[00:56:37] that many weird requests.

[00:56:39] Interesting.

[00:56:39] Yeah.

[00:56:40] It's been a while

[00:56:41] as I've been like in a strip club

[00:56:42] or anything.

[00:56:42] And even that world has changed a lot

[00:56:43] since when I first started going.

[00:56:45] The world's the like

[00:56:47] culture has changed around like dancers.

[00:56:50] Yeah, that's for sure.

[00:56:52] Yeah.

[00:56:52] You've been like Shotgun

[00:56:53] Willys or some of the I don't

[00:56:55] I live right by there.

[00:56:56] I want to go to Shotgun

[00:56:57] Willie's so bad one night

[00:56:58] when I was working at Charlie's,

[00:56:59] actually a group of the girls

[00:57:02] from Shotgun came over

[00:57:03] and they were celebrating

[00:57:04] one of the girls birthdays

[00:57:05] and they ended up doing

[00:57:06] like this like twerk off

[00:57:07] competition for all the girls.

[00:57:09] And like they like had the girls

[00:57:11] from Shotgun versus like

[00:57:13] gays of Charlie's, not the dancers,

[00:57:15] but like just people

[00:57:15] that like go there.

[00:57:17] That still sounds fun.

[00:57:17] It was so fun.

[00:57:19] That girl that was like

[00:57:20] the birthday girl devoured.

[00:57:22] She won.

[00:57:23] I was like, obviously she's going to win.

[00:57:25] She was insane, beautiful,

[00:57:26] gorgeous, amazing.

[00:57:27] So yeah, really fun.

[00:57:29] Have not been to Shotgun's though.

[00:57:30] But yeah.

[00:57:31] And there's that other place

[00:57:31] right there with the Scarlet.

[00:57:32] Yes, Scarlet's.

[00:57:33] I always want to call it

[00:57:34] serotonin stuff.

[00:57:35] Yeah, you do want to call it that.

[00:57:36] Scarlet's actually a pretty nice club.

[00:57:38] It's it doesn't like from the outside.

[00:57:39] It doesn't look like much

[00:57:40] and then you get in there.

[00:57:41] It's like massive.

[00:57:41] Yeah, that's also right by you guys.

[00:57:43] I forgot you live in his building.

[00:57:44] So there's some fun stuff down there.

[00:57:45] B.S. Trip clubs.

[00:57:46] And then there's a gay club right there, too.

[00:57:48] Oh, there is.

[00:57:48] On that same street.

[00:57:49] It's called El Potrero's.

[00:57:50] OK, is it decent?

[00:57:52] Yeah, it's really fun.

[00:57:53] If you like like reggaeton music,

[00:57:54] Spanish music, it's that's the theme.

[00:57:58] They're the one club that stays open

[00:58:00] to like most clubs close at two.

[00:58:02] OK, they're open to four.

[00:58:03] They're four.

[00:58:04] Nice.

[00:58:04] So when you're looking

[00:58:05] for that late night,

[00:58:06] that's the one.

[00:58:07] Thursdays are the best night

[00:58:08] to go to Potrero's in my opinion,

[00:58:10] because there's no cover.

[00:58:11] If you go there on like a Saturday or Friday,

[00:58:13] it's like you're going to be in line

[00:58:14] for a long time because people love

[00:58:16] to go there after all the other clubs close.

[00:58:18] And also, like.

[00:58:20] It's going to be a like

[00:58:21] Arm and a leg for your cover.

[00:58:24] Admission.

[00:58:25] Yeah.

[00:58:25] Oh, it's so much.

[00:58:26] How much? Like twenty five bucks.

[00:58:27] I think it's like fifty.

[00:58:28] Really?

[00:58:29] Mm hmm.

[00:58:29] On Friday and Saturdays.

[00:58:31] I'm pretty sure.

[00:58:31] Don't quote me on that.

[00:58:32] I might be wrong.

[00:58:33] That's still pretty heavy.

[00:58:34] I'm pretty sure because I've never

[00:58:35] wanted to go because of the cover charge.

[00:58:37] I'm like I go to Charlie's for free.

[00:58:39] You're like, you're like, I am talent.

[00:58:40] Like y'all should just be letting me in.

[00:58:43] That part.

[00:58:44] Exactly.

[00:58:45] Wow.

[00:58:45] What the heck's going on in there?

[00:58:46] Yeah, it's pretty fun though.

[00:58:48] But the drinks are also like up the ass.

[00:58:50] Like.

[00:58:50] Oh, I bet.

[00:58:51] Seventeen bucks for a cocktail.

[00:58:53] Oh gosh.

[00:58:54] Man.

[00:58:54] When I've gone to Potrero's though,

[00:58:55] it'll be like I get drunk or like whatever at the

[00:58:58] apartment and then just walk over.

[00:59:00] For the fun, yeah.

[00:59:01] And then just get one drink and maintain.

[00:59:03] That's a pro move right there.

[00:59:04] That's how you know you've been out a few times.

[00:59:06] Yeah.

[00:59:06] I've never been to a gay club though so.

[00:59:07] Oh, see you're missing out.

[00:59:08] Like never like a like.

[00:59:10] No, I don't think I have.

[00:59:10] Really?

[00:59:11] Nothing I can remember.

[00:59:11] Interesting.

[00:59:12] Definitely.

[00:59:12] I would go.

[00:59:13] Go check it out.

[00:59:14] I like the time.

[00:59:15] You would have so much fun.

[00:59:16] Like every single person that I have taken to a gay club

[00:59:20] that is straight has like basically said that it's

[00:59:23] the best experience they've had because like,

[00:59:26] I don't know.

[00:59:26] You guys tell me.

[00:59:27] But I feel like in this straight club scene,

[00:59:31] it's very like animal kingdom in my head.

[00:59:35] OK.

[00:59:35] It's like the girls are together.

[00:59:37] The guys are together.

[00:59:38] The guys are watching the girls.

[00:59:40] The guys are like competing to see who could get the girl

[00:59:43] first.

[00:59:44] The girls are kind of bugged because like this guy hit

[00:59:47] on this girl, but not me like type of thing.

[00:59:50] OK.

[00:59:50] I'm not saying that doesn't happen in the gay community.

[00:59:52] But like when you go out to like a gay club,

[00:59:55] the music is just better.

[00:59:56] OK.

[00:59:56] Sorry it just is.

[00:59:58] And like just the atmosphere and the vibe is like it's

[01:00:00] just like do what you want.

[01:00:02] Be you like gay straight bi, you know,

[01:00:06] pan whatever you are, whatever you identify as,

[01:00:09] gender wise, sexuality wise, whatever.

[01:00:12] I feel like the environment of a gay club is very much just

[01:00:16] come as you are type of thing.

[01:00:17] Very accepting.

[01:00:19] Dance, look a fool if you want to.

[01:00:21] People are going to be doing their own thing.

[01:00:23] They're probably on their own drugs by the way too.

[01:00:25] So they're on their own little world.

[01:00:28] They're minding their own business,

[01:00:29] not worried about what you're doing.

[01:00:30] It's pretty fun I think.

[01:00:31] Yeah.

[01:00:32] Sounds like a pretty free spirited night out for sure.

[01:00:34] It's pretty flattering.

[01:00:36] I have been.

[01:00:37] I have been.

[01:00:38] And Eric, my brother too has been.

[01:00:40] And it's flattering when you get hit on by dudes.

[01:00:43] Oh yeah.

[01:00:44] Like you're like, oh thank you.

[01:00:46] You know, you didn't realize and then they're like OK.

[01:00:48] And then you're like, well thank you so much.

[01:00:50] I like your outfit too but I just don't swing that way.

[01:00:53] But it's still, that's OK.

[01:00:55] Who knows?

[01:00:55] You might get a few in you and you're like, man,

[01:00:57] I haven't tried this yet.

[01:00:58] I mean, you know.

[01:00:59] It happens so often.

[01:01:00] Never completely counting things out because as long

[01:01:04] as everyone's having fun.

[01:01:06] I'm being safe.

[01:01:07] That's the main thing.

[01:01:08] Have fun, be safe, take care of each other.

[01:01:10] I'm very against labels.

[01:01:12] I've been reading a lot and trying

[01:01:15] to understand sexuality.

[01:01:18] Don't really know much about gender.

[01:01:20] That's a totally different thing.

[01:01:21] But for sexuality, especially for men,

[01:01:24] there's this book that I just am reading right now,

[01:01:27] almost finished with.

[01:01:28] It's called The Velvet Rage.

[01:01:31] It's for gay men specifically.

[01:01:33] But I do think if you're a man, you should read it.

[01:01:37] Because it's basically just talking about,

[01:01:40] people don't really want to think that men have a hard time

[01:01:43] in our society, but we do.

[01:01:46] Like, yeah, our system was created by white straight men.

[01:01:51] But it's like at the same time,

[01:01:55] men are looked at as like they're supposed

[01:01:57] to be masculine.

[01:01:59] They're supposed to be the providers.

[01:02:02] And you see that in so many cultures.

[01:02:04] In my culture, you hear machismo,

[01:02:06] which is like you got to be macho.

[01:02:09] The guy drives the car.

[01:02:10] The girl is in the passenger seat.

[01:02:12] Like, you know, just those gender roles are very like big.

[01:02:17] And then also like you can't really

[01:02:18] like show emotion as a man.

[01:02:20] Like you can, but you're seen as weak or like,

[01:02:24] you know, it's just like a judgmental thing.

[01:02:26] And so I feel very bad for, you know,

[01:02:28] men as a whole, straight men included in that.

[01:02:31] Because I feel like you look at women

[01:02:34] and they get to be so much more free.

[01:02:36] Like a woman goes to a gay club, they kiss a girl.

[01:02:39] It's like, whatever.

[01:02:41] Or either not at a gay club.

[01:02:42] A girl kisses a girl.

[01:02:43] Guys are gonna be like, that's hot.

[01:02:45] That's cool.

[01:02:47] Like whatever.

[01:02:48] And it's not gonna be like a big thing.

[01:02:49] It might be a big thing for a different reason.

[01:02:51] Like the guys might be into it.

[01:02:53] But now if you like are two guys

[01:02:56] and you kiss or show some sort of affection,

[01:02:57] you do get those looks sometimes.

[01:02:59] And it's like, but why?

[01:03:01] Like, why is it any different just because

[01:03:03] of the gender being different?

[01:03:05] Why can't men, like even if it's not sexual,

[01:03:07] why can't men hug?

[01:03:08] Why can't men be more intimate with each other?

[01:03:13] Even if it's not romantic or sexual,

[01:03:14] why can't men express themselves that way?

[01:03:17] And so that's kind of what the book is talking about.

[01:03:19] Specifically more so about, you know,

[01:03:21] the gay shame that we go through growing up

[01:03:22] because we are in a straight man's world.

[01:03:25] So we do have to hide ourselves for our youth.

[01:03:29] Well I mean yeah, because kids are vicious.

[01:03:31] That's what the book says.

[01:03:32] And when you're like growing up and you're,

[01:03:35] you know they're gonna get bullied and all this other shit.

[01:03:37] It says like the hardest thing for kids

[01:03:40] is that when kids notice that someone's different,

[01:03:43] doesn't matter why they're different,

[01:03:44] kids will notice it and they'll attack it.

[01:03:47] So it's like, you know, they'll start bullying.

[01:03:49] It starts as little as first grade kindergarten.

[01:03:52] Yeah, it's like kids are vicious.

[01:03:55] They're crazy scary.

[01:03:56] I'm like, I don't like kids

[01:03:57] because I'm like I don't need them telling me

[01:03:59] that my voice is weird or I sound like a girl.

[01:04:01] They love to make those little comments.

[01:04:03] I'm like, ugh.

[01:04:05] I just don't need to hear those comments from you,

[01:04:07] like your child's.

[01:04:09] But they're just vicious, they're unfiltered.

[01:04:10] So yeah, it's just, it's interesting

[01:04:13] and I feel like if you're a straight man,

[01:04:16] be a straight man.

[01:04:17] But if you're also a straight man

[01:04:19] that's more fluid and you do have some curiosities,

[01:04:23] like do it.

[01:04:25] But also it's not really anyone's business

[01:04:27] what you're doing behind a closed door.

[01:04:30] If you're making it people's business,

[01:04:32] that's your business once again.

[01:04:34] But like, I don't know, I just feel like sexuality

[01:04:38] is a lot more fluid than what our society makes it seem.

[01:04:42] And you can see that when you look at like ancient

[01:04:45] like religions. Ancient Rome is very much that.

[01:04:48] I've been thinking of Rome the whole time

[01:04:49] because it was normal in the culture.

[01:04:50] That was the other, out in the open even.

[01:04:52] Like we were saying with Europe,

[01:04:53] I mean they free the nip over there.

[01:04:55] Here women have to cover that up.

[01:04:57] Exactly and I actually found out,

[01:04:59] I don't wanna be spreading misinformation.

[01:05:02] So do your own research on this topic.

[01:05:04] But I did find out that the Celtic religion

[01:05:09] way ancient before Catholics came into Ireland

[01:05:13] and all that stuff.

[01:05:16] It was like very pro-gay in that ancient religion.

[01:05:19] It wasn't really an issue and then Catholicism came

[01:05:22] and that changed everything.

[01:05:23] So like in the Catholicism religion,

[01:05:25] which I was growing up,

[01:05:26] it's like a huge sin obviously.

[01:05:30] So it's like, that's kind of sucky

[01:05:32] that like religion I feel is what has changed.

[01:05:36] It's indoctrination.

[01:05:37] Yeah, it's indoctrination.

[01:05:39] Religion is what changed the perspective

[01:05:41] on sexuality in our society.

[01:05:43] And I think that like when you start pulling religion

[01:05:48] into why something's wrong in a society

[01:05:51] where we all have freedom of religion

[01:05:55] and freedom of choice, freedom of speech.

[01:05:57] It's like, why are you allowed?

[01:06:00] I mean, that's why it's our country

[01:06:02] but you shouldn't be allowed to come at me

[01:06:04] and tell me I'm wrong just because

[01:06:06] you belong to this religion.

[01:06:08] Like I don't belong to that religion.

[01:06:09] So therefore I'm not doing anything wrong

[01:06:12] because I'm not in that religion.

[01:06:13] It's because they think that that is the truth.

[01:06:16] Yeah.

[01:06:17] But it's a manmade truth.

[01:06:19] Like you think, like I believe in a higher energy.

[01:06:22] Yeah.

[01:06:23] I believe in that it doesn't exist in churches though.

[01:06:26] It exists everywhere within this conversation.

[01:06:29] Cause like, you know, being able to like as a straight male

[01:06:33] just going back to some of your points

[01:06:34] like I've mentioned it a lot on discussion combustion

[01:06:37] is the modern man movement and like it's okay to cry

[01:06:40] and it's okay to like show our emotions

[01:06:42] and you can like still be like in your masculine energy

[01:06:45] and show your emotions and not have to like hide it

[01:06:47] so much and we do that on here.

[01:06:50] Like we've had a lot of heartfelt conversations

[01:06:52] where it's a tearjerker and like I'm not gonna try

[01:06:55] to hold that back.

[01:06:56] You know, I'm gonna allow myself to have those emotions.

[01:06:58] There's a lot to hold back.

[01:07:00] But I've certainly felt that with society

[01:07:01] like hold it down, be a man, push it back,

[01:07:03] have answers, deny your feelings.

[01:07:05] We've been taught that.

[01:07:06] Yeah.

[01:07:07] You know, in society.

[01:07:08] So yeah, and then religion you bring that in

[01:07:10] and then like when you look at America

[01:07:11] this is supposed to be the land of the free.

[01:07:12] You know, politically I'm kind of libertarian

[01:07:15] so I believe in personal freedom.

[01:07:16] Yeah.

[01:07:17] You know, keep government out of it

[01:07:18] and let people make the best decisions

[01:07:20] that they feel is for themselves.

[01:07:21] Yeah.

[01:07:22] It's that simple.

[01:07:22] It's that simple.

[01:07:23] It really is.

[01:07:24] And that's the thing is like,

[01:07:26] I don't know where we went like so wrong.

[01:07:29] I do think it's like that religion

[01:07:30] but like once again you look at Europe.

[01:07:33] I had a friend who his own experience was

[01:07:37] he studied abroad, went to Norway

[01:07:42] and found that like men, women, everybody

[01:07:45] were like very sexually open.

[01:07:47] Yeah.

[01:07:48] And he was like, you would love it there.

[01:07:49] And I was like, why?

[01:07:51] Cause like straight guys probably would

[01:07:54] end up hooking up with you or whatever.

[01:07:55] And I was like, oh my God, I love that.

[01:07:57] Cause I was very fetishy of straight men.

[01:08:00] Really?

[01:08:01] Yeah.

[01:08:02] Cause I hooked up with straight men.

[01:08:03] So like since I've done it, it's like hot.

[01:08:06] Was it like your, so like what did you get out of it?

[01:08:10] Like trying to turn them gay or just show them as?

[01:08:13] I don't turn anyone gay.

[01:08:17] Never will make the first move.

[01:08:18] I'm not comfortable enough to do that

[01:08:20] with like a straight man.

[01:08:20] Like if you're straight and like we build a relationship

[01:08:23] I'm looking at it as friends.

[01:08:24] Now, if I think that you're hot

[01:08:26] you're gonna know that I think you're hot.

[01:08:27] I'm gonna tell you, but I also think that you're straight.

[01:08:30] So I don't think me telling you anything

[01:08:32] is gonna mean anything.

[01:08:33] Now, if you're crossing these lines

[01:08:36] which I had a friend, he was my best friend for years

[01:08:39] was in love with him.

[01:08:41] I told him, I am in love with you.

[01:08:44] I know you were a straight man.

[01:08:45] I'm in love with you.

[01:08:46] But you know, shirtless gym pictures were still coming.

[01:08:49] Flirting with me was still happening.

[01:08:52] There was just like things that were happening

[01:08:54] that like maybe to him was innocent.

[01:08:56] He had no idea that I was perceiving it that way.

[01:08:59] But I'm a gay man so I was like

[01:09:01] is he like flirting with me?

[01:09:02] And so he kept me on like this like little like chase

[01:09:05] and sometimes like for me I was like

[01:09:07] I'm gonna just like stick with it

[01:09:09] because I like him so much that like

[01:09:11] what happens if one day he does like hit on me.

[01:09:14] So then like the reason that our friendship ended

[01:09:17] was because I felt like it was an unfair dynamic

[01:09:19] where I was like my feelings aren't fair to you

[01:09:22] because you are not feeling the same way

[01:09:26] and I'm just like hoping for something different

[01:09:28] out of this relationship than you are.

[01:09:30] And I was like so that's not fair to you

[01:09:32] and it's also not fair to me

[01:09:33] because you're doing things that may be innocent to you

[01:09:38] but to me they're playing with my head

[01:09:39] and you're toying with me.

[01:09:41] And I'm like, so that's where it gets messy

[01:09:43] with these like straight situations.

[01:09:45] But when straight boys like hit on me

[01:09:47] and like I'm at the gym or something

[01:09:49] and a straight boy or like at Charlie's

[01:09:50] and they come up and they're like

[01:09:52] I'm straight but you have a fat ass or something.

[01:09:54] I'm like that was so hot.

[01:09:56] Like let me get your number

[01:09:57] and sometimes I do get the number.

[01:09:59] And like last week a guy went into Charlie's

[01:10:02] and he was with a girl on a date

[01:10:04] and I was just like making eyes at him

[01:10:05] and he was making eyes at me

[01:10:07] and then we went to the bar

[01:10:09] and like I say I'm not drinking

[01:10:10] but hot man I was like buy him a shot.

[01:10:12] I'm getting me a shot.

[01:10:13] So I got us a shot, we took it together.

[01:10:15] And then I got his number at the end of the night

[01:10:17] and he was like I'm straight but like flexible

[01:10:20] and I'm like.

[01:10:21] Flexible.

[01:10:22] Okay.

[01:10:22] And I was like cool I don't care what you are

[01:10:24] like I'm not gonna judge you

[01:10:26] if you wanna go marry a woman after this

[01:10:27] like that's your prerogative.

[01:10:28] I can't tell you what your sexuality is

[01:10:30] but if you're gonna also hook up with me

[01:10:32] while you're trying to like

[01:10:33] while you're doing your thing, cool.

[01:10:35] That's a win for me you know.

[01:10:37] So like that's just how I see sexuality

[01:10:39] and like I don't know I just think like

[01:10:42] there's nothing wrong with that.

[01:10:43] No I agree.

[01:10:44] There's nothing wrong with that at all.

[01:10:45] It comes down to my triple H policy.

[01:10:46] Hang out, have fun, hook up.

[01:10:47] Yeah.

[01:10:48] Exactly.

[01:10:49] If you just keep it to that

[01:10:50] who knows where it goes there.

[01:10:51] Even if you just have the first two

[01:10:51] hanging out and having fun.

[01:10:53] The hook up fuse are gonna come.

[01:10:54] You're still having fun.

[01:10:54] Yeah.

[01:10:55] It does kinda come.

[01:10:56] Yeah they hang out and have fun first

[01:10:57] and then you know you're probably gonna hook up.

[01:10:59] Yeah more than likely.

[01:11:00] More than likely yeah.

[01:11:02] Yeah what a fun world we live in.

[01:11:03] It is.

[01:11:04] Now this has been a great conversation.

[01:11:05] Yeah I definitely enjoyed it.

[01:11:07] That flew by.

[01:11:07] We do wanna ask you one question.

[01:11:09] Yes.

[01:11:10] Before and this is kind of a discussion

[01:11:12] combustion classic question.

[01:11:14] I don't think we asked Molly this last week.

[01:11:16] We haven't asked it in a couple weeks.

[01:11:17] We're bringing it back.

[01:11:18] Yeah we're bringing it back for Chris here.

[01:11:19] Kev you wanna hit him with it?

[01:11:20] Yeah so we like to ask everybody

[01:11:22] if you could offer one piece of advice

[01:11:24] that when everyone hears this tomorrow

[01:11:25] on the airways and on YouTube

[01:11:27] what better humanity,

[01:11:28] what would that piece of advice be?

[01:11:34] I would say if we wanna like make the world

[01:11:39] a better place some advice that I would have

[01:11:42] is just love one another.

[01:11:43] Like this isn't really something that I made up

[01:11:46] but at brunch Jessica says this

[01:11:48] at the end of every brunch.

[01:11:49] Okay.

[01:11:50] She says I want you guys to leave here

[01:11:51] smiling a little better,

[01:11:52] laughing a little bit harder

[01:11:53] and just like loving life a little bit more

[01:11:55] feeling better about yourself

[01:11:57] and like you know there's no necessary reason

[01:12:00] to spread anything other than love

[01:12:03] and like once you do that

[01:12:05] and you learn to like give yourself that love

[01:12:07] and you give other people just that genuine

[01:12:09] like love whether you agree with them,

[01:12:12] whether you think that they're a good person

[01:12:13] or a bad person.

[01:12:14] Just give them that love.

[01:12:16] I think the world would be so much better

[01:12:18] of a place for sure.

[01:12:19] Hashtag love.

[01:12:20] Hashtag love yes.

[01:12:22] Well I love it.

[01:12:23] Great way to end the app.

[01:12:25] Thanks for hanging out

[01:12:26] and sharing some stories with us

[01:12:27] and take us on an adventure.

[01:12:28] That was fun man.

[01:12:29] I loved it yeah it was so much fun.

[01:12:30] We'll get you back on.

[01:12:31] We're gonna have to maybe go to a gay bar one night

[01:12:32] and have a little fun.

[01:12:33] Come to Charlie's.

[01:12:34] See what that's all about.

[01:12:35] We'll come down for a visit.

[01:12:36] Charlie's and then brunch.

[01:12:37] Those are like if you wanna like

[01:12:38] if you have never been to like a drag experience.

[01:12:40] I've never done that.

[01:12:41] I've never done the drag.

[01:12:42] Drag, brunch.

[01:12:43] Saturdays is when I'm there.

[01:12:44] Y'all will love it.

[01:12:45] It's so much fun.

[01:12:46] Grab an mimosa and take a look huh?

[01:12:47] Endless bottomless mimosas as well.

[01:12:49] Okay.

[01:12:50] Might have to get down the calendar

[01:12:50] before I officially fully stop drinking.

[01:12:52] Exactly.

[01:12:54] That sounds like a good time.

[01:12:55] We're definitely gonna have you back

[01:12:58] and definitely wanna collaborate with your circle as well.

[01:13:00] Yeah for sure I'll talk to them.

[01:13:02] Because the message is great

[01:13:04] and thanks everybody for tuning in.

[01:13:05] This was a real fun episode.

[01:13:08] You know how we do it every single week

[01:13:09] and you know what we want you to do to yourself

[01:13:11] and that is be good to yourself.

[01:13:14] You deserve it.

[01:13:14] Yes, I love that.