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[00:00:40] Right, so who we joined by who am I joined by today?
[00:00:43] It's a girl SS in the buildings, sneakerspace OG is the full name, but I love going by SS
[00:00:50] I'm not gonna say my government because you know
[00:00:55] Call me SS if you see me in the street. I want answer. I love this amazing
[00:01:00] Okay, so I have to talk about something real quick. We just said we always just
[00:01:04] Diabrated and thanks
[00:01:05] Let's go. I'm gonna talk about the first time that I saw you on the impression you made on me
[00:01:08] You don't even know this story, so you ready because we go
[00:01:12] So I was invited to a cultural runway event
[00:01:16] Last year and your fits, but your essence honey like yes, there was designers
[00:01:24] But in the modeling realm or the representation realm you were fire you always are
[00:01:30] Beautiful representation, but the fire of that moment
[00:01:33] You had your hair in this dope ass way the strut the street roll it was
[00:01:39] So good I think you walked for like adult entertainment maybe okay
[00:01:44] affiliation it was so dope to see that that was the first fashion show I had ever been to
[00:01:50] Oh, like at that status and then the next year
[00:01:54] I was actually I've walked a couple times for them now. So I got I'm like
[00:02:00] Just had to talk about that from that moment. I was like I like I'm kind of one of those people
[00:02:05] I fancy myself a collector of humans because I like to collect and connect
[00:02:09] And I was like I'm gonna know that person one day, you know
[00:02:12] I was sent my home in Cocoa law who is artists with the rare birds super dope human
[00:02:18] I'm an introduce y'all cuz you've had but anyway
[00:02:21] It was just like the most ethereal moment
[00:02:23] I didn't I never tell anybody was my birthday was my birthday and it was like the best birthday that I ever had
[00:02:29] Seeing all those beautiful representation within the city like cultural runway was the best experience just to witness
[00:02:36] I'm shouting them all out, you know, and a rob come on
[00:02:40] But that was like one of the coolest experiences and just to see how connected the community was in that moment
[00:02:48] So to speak to connection
[00:02:50] Talk to me about what it is that has you staying in connection with yourself via your community
[00:02:57] I think I'm nothing without my community and that's what you know what I'm saying like
[00:03:03] I mess them dope people in Denver like
[00:03:07] Denver's environment despite what everybody says like oh we can't dress or we don't have a nightlife or
[00:03:14] We don't have any culture here
[00:03:18] You haven't lived here right you haven't lived here long enough or you haven't met the right people or you haven't gone into a little bit of history with some of the
[00:03:26] Actual people in this things because change facts cuz I've been here from born to now
[00:03:36] And I've seen we haven't in and out
[00:03:40] We didn't have the things that we didn't have a Gucci store
[00:03:44] We didn't have a Louis Vuitton store and probably till 10 years ago
[00:03:48] Okay, well, I mean I'm hoping you've been our spot. Okay, so if you're really connected into like
[00:03:54] fashion and and the industry you'll see how I
[00:03:59] Was one of the first purchases for the Louis Vuitton store. I sure that's right about a little bracelet
[00:04:07] At that time I was probably like 20
[00:04:10] You know, just like oh my god
[00:04:11] We got a Louis Vuitton store
[00:04:12] What like you know everyone's considered you know all year from Colorado you ride horses
[00:04:18] Oh, you snowboard you ski right there is so many different things that we could get involved in in Denver
[00:04:26] And so that's been like my narrative like making sure that like when I meet a person and they're not from here understanding like
[00:04:35] You know you have you have a creativity side to you right a lot of people don't know first Fridays come on
[00:04:42] Right and I'm talking about even in high school when I was at high school. I went to East
[00:04:47] Hey, low, hey, low, low, hey, no, I'm saying I got a shadow might eat dangerous
[00:04:52] I went to Metro for college like I have not moved out of the state and so when people
[00:04:59] I read these narratives online and I'm seeing her like
[00:05:02] Colorado is like the white Atlanta, but if you're
[00:05:06] Oh
[00:05:09] You know where to find your commute. Yeah absolutely anyone could fit in that space
[00:05:14] And don't matter what your demographic background is you know
[00:05:17] I'm saying because
[00:05:19] Everybody evolves everybody is continually evolving from the time nine went to Metro to now
[00:05:25] I've witnessed
[00:05:27] Three to four different black clubs shut down right, okay?
[00:05:31] Like if you want to talk about co-crush you can talk about the name if you want to talk about doorchester
[00:05:36] If you want to talk about on it and the city is against black people
[00:05:43] Connecting and minorities connect. Yes
[00:05:47] We are definitely wrong about you know we are we already know about that so for when people say like
[00:05:54] It why I'm staying here why I'm so
[00:05:58] Into my community is because I love because I've seen the different evolutions
[00:06:03] I've seen the different evolvements through multiple different industries through the weed industry
[00:06:09] Through the mushroom industry right like psychedelics
[00:06:13] I shouldn't say mushrooms psychedelics
[00:06:15] I apologize all right, cuz we got lions main to know that
[00:06:21] Good
[00:06:23] I'm seeing all these industries evolve
[00:06:29] I'm seeing Squizzy Taylor I was on
[00:06:31] I was gonna say that like be
[00:06:33] See the squizzy go from co-crush come on to DJ
[00:06:39] To having his own spot and shout out to everyone who's on the panel at we him and opening that's why too
[00:06:45] Because there's multiple entities around that
[00:06:47] But mostly I'm proud of my mayor
[00:06:50] Right yeah, I'm proud of everyone else of course
[00:06:55] But to see the in witnessed evolution that could happen he has a left right of course
[00:07:01] So go visit other states right of course
[00:07:04] So go do things in other communities because these are community individuals
[00:07:08] But you don't leave you roots, you know, right last while I'm not leaving
[00:07:12] I love this
[00:07:14] I love it a couple entities mine not leaving, you know well the speaks all this growth and just you witnessing all that growth
[00:07:22] I always like to ask this question
[00:07:24] Is what is it?
[00:07:26] What would your young version and you can choose any age?
[00:07:30] Any age what would your younger version say to you right now?
[00:07:34] Oh my my younger version use the date later
[00:07:39] No, I'm player
[00:07:45] I'm not joking when I was talking to my younger self. I would say you know settle down and find a woman
[00:07:53] Love it to my younger self don't lose sight of your talents
[00:07:58] I feel like a lot of people hit that 25 mark and get burnt out with the challenge
[00:08:05] Like they give up they go to corporate America
[00:08:09] They they release that gift that God gave them
[00:08:14] And then they let it at their discretion like a whole touch base was it?
[00:08:18] It's a muscle and you shouldn't you know let that muscle go stagnant because then it's it's not gonna be strong
[00:08:26] It's not gonna be adaptable. It's not gonna be able to be moldable
[00:08:31] It's just a loose limb and so I
[00:08:35] Let that happen
[00:08:37] I'll say I do graffiti in the city. I used to do oil paints acrylic
[00:08:44] I used to do wheat pacing wheat pacing
[00:08:48] Go up on the wall you put a little poster oh
[00:08:52] I might be a little toxicated
[00:08:55] I don't know
[00:08:57] My head okay slide dyslexia. Let's be fair
[00:09:01] I love this so my partner does too, so we get we fully get dyslexia's my highest
[00:09:08] Neurological concern okay under ADHD
[00:09:12] And then under PTSD but that's a whole nother thing, but yeah
[00:09:16] I eat oh yeah
[00:09:20] Oh
[00:09:22] You got this stuff lady
[00:09:27] That's what you went
[00:09:30] Trying to figure that out. But yeah, it was it was so challenging
[00:09:36] It was so challenging to
[00:09:38] Step like you get show use to a 95 paycheck right
[00:09:43] There's so tendency that we built oh, oh, it just happened
[00:09:47] So I started in healthcare when I was 16 dang yes, I was always male practice
[00:09:53] Mop
[00:09:54] We were a male practicing male practice. I'm
[00:09:57] Offer lady now
[00:09:59] I know
[00:10:09] I joined a male practice law firm when I was 16 okay
[00:10:13] I was right across the street from east
[00:10:14] Okay, and I was scan their legal documents into their interface
[00:10:19] So I would leave school go over there
[00:10:21] Scan documents from like I was say from 330 to 6 p.m. every day
[00:10:28] And I'll be my shoe money like I'm like my steas got to come for somewhere
[00:10:33] Mama you know my mama but yeah, mama. Bye
[00:10:38] You know your mom ain't gonna buy that every air Jordan one that come out
[00:10:42] Or every air Jordan 11 that come out you know I'm saying so the ones where I'm like
[00:10:47] You know, I can I can miss this
[00:10:49] Like I got my own money mom just drive me to the room all or drive me to Nike town when it was on 16th street
[00:10:55] I'm still pissed about that. I want disclaimer
[00:10:58] the whoever runs
[00:11:00] 16 streets malls
[00:11:02] marketing and in in in in real estate
[00:11:07] Rentals in leases
[00:11:09] You're trash
[00:11:11] I
[00:11:13] You got rid of uniclo
[00:11:15] You ragdee
[00:11:17] In meffers I was gonna call you all mother fuckers
[00:11:20] I
[00:11:22] Like I'm well still put here
[00:11:26] But you know when I saw Nike town leave
[00:11:30] I'm going on rents. Let me smell. No, I love it. This is what we do here. Okay, we can have 15 conversations with him one Nike town leave in Colorado
[00:11:38] I think I was I might have been in college
[00:11:42] Maybe fresh in your college at left and then they put unicorn glow down there. Mm-hmm. Oh my god
[00:11:47] Love the little unicorn glow white tea in the cause collapse. I got cause you know
[00:11:53] I'm here on me
[00:11:54] I don't know
[00:11:55] Cause is a Jewish designer
[00:11:57] Okay, York or no he might be familiar Jersey anyway
[00:12:01] He used to steal street signs of fashion houses in New York and put his art in there
[00:12:07] Like he used to break into them bitches so you know how you have bad? Yeah like on the on the
[00:12:12] Metros or whatever he would break into them put cause dolls
[00:12:16] Do a spin off of them and like this is how I want to add the lip so he'll steal it. He'll work on it overnight
[00:12:22] Mm-hmm, and then the next morning he'll go back break into the spot
[00:12:27] And put it back okay, and that's how you got it's made mm-hmm and now caused dogs
[00:12:32] Going for like 20,000 dollars cheese. Yeah. He did action figurines
[00:12:37] He was one of the first parties that I bought action figurines from
[00:12:41] This I see look at all I'm learning right now
[00:12:44] Random facts about me. No, I love this. I love this. So I got it tatted probably when I was
[00:12:50] 22
[00:12:52] Because I think I got my first cause the when I'm 20 is the companion
[00:12:57] From the and I sold this oh when I tell you
[00:13:01] Let's really talk about how you lose investments mm-hmm. Let's talk about it. I
[00:13:07] I went to the MTV awards crazy
[00:13:12] Back in the day okay because my mom was heavy in some music she had a few industry friends
[00:13:19] And got a baby miniaturized action figure of the cause companion
[00:13:26] MTV movies awards like the astronaut oh yeah, yeah
[00:13:30] It was it was gold. It wasn't Sonic oh like I got a MTV but you know it was given to me
[00:13:36] By one of my mom's friends mm-hmm and so I think I was 22 how did it in the crib
[00:13:42] One of my homeboys came to the crib. This was when I was sharing this place with one of my girls
[00:13:47] That was the back
[00:13:50] And bought it off me for like two minutes
[00:13:53] That shit goes for a hundred thousand dollars right now
[00:13:58] How does one of these one of my biggest sales? Oh one of my biggest sales there's not a lot of else that I've taken
[00:14:03] Without always I feel that I don't think I have anything a value to that capacity you know
[00:14:09] I think I I spend my entire
[00:14:16] It would get it back
[00:14:22] For how many months of
[00:14:26] So I be just like to hear like
[00:14:29] You know how you've seen the city change you've obviously seen a lot of gentrification
[00:14:34] We were speaking like in the you know like moving out certain things where it well is
[00:14:40] Putting us in a position of not being seen as fashionable right like okay
[00:14:44] We're gonna remove this because Denver just can't keep up
[00:14:47] And I think the really cool thing about again why I was very drawn to you is it's not just like your style that oozes
[00:14:53] It's your essence about how you are in your style
[00:14:56] And so just seeing you know within the evolution of how Denver five points right now all of that has transition
[00:15:03] You know Santa Santa Fe art district and everything
[00:15:07] And just seeing how you are so intertwined with the community and everything that you wear has a story
[00:15:13] Everything's a conversation piece, you know, so let's talk about that hat
[00:15:17] He was he was giving me the deal and then I was like, you know well we're gonna save this for the cast
[00:15:21] This is gonna be
[00:15:23] This is gonna be a bit emotional. Oh say and if you don't know no, no, I'm beautiful open book
[00:15:32] Neighborhood focused at Lea was a
[00:15:34] Anzacite under adult entertainment so that's my brother pines his brand
[00:15:42] Ever since he's released this been gone probably six years now. Okay
[00:15:46] I'm in a silenced support
[00:15:49] So for the first two or three years. I was like, yeah, this is crazy
[00:15:54] Like we finally got some you know like out of Denver like
[00:15:59] Like oh, I could wear it like really just it just it exoob
[00:16:04] Confidence right and you know like if you know pines
[00:16:08] But I know the brand he is
[00:16:13] The male version okay and I shouldn't say
[00:16:15] The male version of me. Yeah, no, I'm saying like hand in hand the confidence level that we both have
[00:16:22] In our drive for things and our dedication for things is the same
[00:16:27] You know and shout out to Johnny one of the
[00:16:30] Graphic designers and another curator of the brand that's
[00:16:35] In partnership with pines
[00:16:38] They they made she's shake when everyone's hold on no
[00:16:42] Like a lot of people don't know that like
[00:16:45] And I'm a drop name fuck it the Eden's there Denver Central Market five points
[00:16:52] Well quote unquote right now and not say five points right now our district
[00:16:57] They have a lot of properties over there
[00:17:00] They have a ton of properties over there incubator spaces and so there's there's brands like falsico
[00:17:06] There's brands like yeah person over there that are in incubator spaces
[00:17:12] Those incubator spaces
[00:17:15] Not permanent right to us right
[00:17:19] Maybe to other have been very curious about maybe to others and I'm gonna say that maybe to others
[00:17:26] Correct they are not
[00:17:30] Tinted tips they are permanent
[00:17:34] With the sales that adult entertainment was making in 2022
[00:17:40] Could run circles around
[00:17:43] Certain entities
[00:17:44] I'm not gonna call out names or you know compare price points or anything like that
[00:17:49] But the sales that we're going on we're not at the same operating hours as others and that's
[00:17:56] caused skepticism between the management organization and
[00:18:01] This type of stuff
[00:18:03] People really don't talk about
[00:18:06] Because it's like oh, it's frowned upon or
[00:18:09] Oh, we're not gonna be transparent or it's not good business practices and nothing against eating
[00:18:14] But it was a blind side
[00:18:16] It was a hundred percent blind side of it. It hurt my heart
[00:18:20] It hurt the community's heart because that alley
[00:18:23] That alley has never been as lit. I went to the farewell party of a dull of entertainment leaving so so sad
[00:18:31] Yeah, so I know it's not like us
[00:18:34] I shouldn't say us them like I'm a part of it, but I'm not like
[00:18:40] Whatever they need I'm there but isn't community being apart. Exactly
[00:18:44] I know but I also want to give credit with credit
[00:18:47] No, like I put in hours, but I have not put it out
[00:18:52] Clearly as much as these individuals so it's pines and Johnny's baby and
[00:18:59] There is there is just so much hurt in pain
[00:19:04] Behind that kick out because it was a kick out. Yeah, it was I don't care with no way if I could say I'm
[00:19:11] I'm gonna say what I want to say
[00:19:13] If you want to email me
[00:19:18] More than happy to answer those emails back with constructive criticism because
[00:19:23] Managing is space with creatives you have to be flexible with creatives absolutely and they were not no
[00:19:30] No, and so they managed
[00:19:33] Since you've been in that realm. I see that you're taking on other projects and now I'm kind of seeing the root of like okay
[00:19:38] You want to have like a little bit more of like a not maybe a hand in it, but just like more awareness around what's always happening
[00:19:44] So you can make your community aware and I love that so
[00:19:48] What is like moving into like something I've seen you
[00:19:53] Starting to do I would love for you to talk about but I don't want to be talk I don't want to say it
[00:19:57] I want you to say so tell me
[00:19:59] So I did start a magazine and another self publication
[00:20:04] As of the end of last year so the fourth quarter of last year. I released a magazine called
[00:20:10] Solomon status and it's an e-magazine so it's digital and hard copy
[00:20:17] So S
[00:20:19] Is a letter and I guess this is part of my ADHD a letter that I just of since I was a kid
[00:20:26] You know like drawing it like you know the S is that used to draw with like the
[00:20:33] smile when I tell you the tension desk I would draw that
[00:20:38] Throughout like a whole class period ago and like my whole textbook would be full with S's
[00:20:44] And I was like why the fuck do I want? Why do I resonate with this so much?
[00:20:49] So my space came around
[00:20:52] There was a sneaker. I know this is a way back back
[00:20:56] When my space came around the galaxy phones came out
[00:21:01] I did remember the galaxy so I did get them at a young very age. I was one camping out for them
[00:21:09] My mom at the time can't
[00:21:12] Not my mom at the time my mom now
[00:21:16] But my mom at that time was camping out with me heavy like we went we would go to nighty town
[00:21:22] We'd go to a rummaw we would go to the mall where there's a fountain in it
[00:21:27] Cod it closed down and said it's like oh, mom. It's just so bad
[00:21:32] Old old mom I don't know if it's a west or northbound
[00:21:37] But they had all the Nike releases like way more than a rummaw way more than Nike town
[00:21:44] Like me and my mom was like I already let's take this 30 minute drive
[00:21:47] I guess we're gonna get you shoes
[00:21:49] So I got them I got them with the pool tag and everything
[00:21:52] There's no oh I was this static
[00:21:55] So then that same week I was like shit. I got to make a my space
[00:22:01] Oh, I got a play for me to know
[00:22:05] I am the one
[00:22:07] I'm the true king. I'm not bad this
[00:22:11] I do
[00:22:13] Okay, um and so I got a my space age and I was like fuck what incorporate these galaxy homes
[00:22:21] But also incorporates my my my my passion
[00:22:25] Sounds like sneakerspace yeah, I was like yeah, there's the space. There's a galaxy
[00:22:30] You know it's vast
[00:22:32] Sounds like but there's only one sneaker space so sneakerspace. I'll g
[00:22:37] So I put the little g behind it. I was probably like what 14
[00:22:45] Like when we brainstorming
[00:22:46] I had a notebook and I this notebook I'm a writer I've been a writer probably
[00:22:53] Since I was 10 I love to write like honestly since I could actually
[00:22:57] Figure out a sentence
[00:22:59] So maybe even back through their third grade second grade
[00:23:04] I had no books. I have literally a ton of notebooks at my grandma's crib and my mom's crib like they're spread out
[00:23:11] Because like you know like when you live my grandma my mom and me all used to live together
[00:23:15] So there's pile there from that to the yeah me and my mom and my stepdad living together
[00:23:20] There's a pile from that generation and then me living all the versions of your becoming
[00:23:26] Yeah, so
[00:23:28] I kept these notebooks and I was like oh, yes just resonates
[00:23:33] So I did a lot of research and college
[00:23:37] about the significance of symbology and symbolism within within
[00:23:44] Media within
[00:23:46] Um editing within distribution of publications and I studied Nike
[00:23:53] I studied Amazon I said and this is all through college and so I was like
[00:23:58] Damn I really hit something on the head with this so SS
[00:24:04] Symbolism in Hebrew
[00:24:07] Because you know, of course I'm a messianic Jew
[00:24:10] So if you know this I believe in Jesus but I also practice Judaism
[00:24:16] Okay, I hold the Sabbath
[00:24:19] I hold
[00:24:21] Of course
[00:24:23] Fridays and Saturdays you know my day of rest and I got Hebrew everywhere
[00:24:28] Love this so much so King of Kings Lord of Lords okay, I just like you know
[00:24:32] Religion and spirituality is important
[00:24:36] So when I started researching yes, oh my goodness the symbolism between S and spirituality
[00:24:46] Your spirituality starts with S yeah and how the double on charger from the start of creation to
[00:24:53] Adam and Eve the eating of the apple the S symbolizes that tranquility the three pillars
[00:25:01] The Holy Ghost you know, yeah everybody knows three pillars
[00:25:04] I go on to the all that because I drank and I want to talk about it
[00:25:08] It's like about the Lord one it talks Kate
[00:25:11] I know it turned modern to you drunk and spirit that's okay. You drunk in a spirit
[00:25:19] Spirit
[00:25:20] So when I found out that the the S is the 12th letter in Hebrew
[00:25:28] There's so many like 12 divided by what you say
[00:25:31] Let me go in and tell you a story
[00:25:33] Apostle Charles yes all the things so you know if you have a letter there resonates with you research
[00:25:40] Absolutely important it's so important
[00:25:44] To determine like what's what's no one's really researching the meaning behind the stuff that they
[00:25:51] Well, that's because we get detoured from it and in our language it's spell binding because we have to spell it
[00:25:58] And that's what I love that you bring up, you know like
[00:26:02] What is your interest and what is your practice?
[00:26:05] Because I grew up in a cult but I used to study the Greek and Hebrew meanings behind how the King James version and just
[00:26:13] Language in general. I wanted to know any origin of it. Why have tried?
[00:26:20] This is fascinating
[00:26:22] So and then you're even speaking about S isn't I'm like no, that's what I love about
[00:26:27] Listen, you know I'll turn the camera view
[00:26:30] Stand up she made these pants. Yeah, she made these pants for two S's
[00:26:36] Like what how can I not say something about that?
[00:26:39] It's all symbolism is so
[00:26:42] So do you know the
[00:26:45] Mendole effect
[00:26:46] Absolutely I
[00:26:48] Had a lot of that the latest one was like the whole fruit of the moon thing. Yeah, and I was like come now
[00:26:53] Okay, but there's so many in there's I also feel like
[00:26:58] Just in our own lives like did that happen did that really happen because we have to second guess our own like
[00:27:03] You know for instance i2 have been diagnosed with PTSD and so a lot of times I'm like did these things happen
[00:27:11] And
[00:27:12] Yes, they did because I'm actually having a response to this and so just to kind of be in that
[00:27:19] I have my own little effects you know, but in the world as well as culturally as well as like as things change in versions of ourselves
[00:27:29] Exist or don't exist anymore we all kind of have that in an essence but
[00:27:34] Just to just to give some honor where it's due to you you're like one of these community members that are
[00:27:40] It's like a gift of being a reminder to people's power
[00:27:44] You know like I'm gonna remind you of where you came from where you're at and where you are going simply by you showing up
[00:27:51] Standing in the line waiting for their drops standing in line to
[00:27:56] Bring about the right representation to bring about the right
[00:28:03] Awareness is to your community, you know, so
[00:28:06] I'm sorry. I just had no step in and say that because as you
[00:28:10] As you were as I was seeing your your
[00:28:13] Denver's
[00:28:14] Starting to make its rounds, you know, and I was like, oh, I got to see you were putting up some of my favorite artists that like even in this community
[00:28:22] I fan human so many people here. I'm like Denver has some of the dough-bist
[00:28:27] Fucking people here the most brilliant artists
[00:28:31] But the beautiful thing about them is they're not boastful and they're also it's
[00:28:36] I don't want to say they're obtainable, but it's obtainable to visit with them or to sit in space with them
[00:28:42] You know, but you have made such an impression on me making
[00:28:47] Allowing me to see from your vernacular the things that are important to you and a community that I just want to honor as well
[00:28:55] Like how can I show up because of the essence in which you bring that like not just an awareness, but also like
[00:29:01] Exposing its greatness in a very
[00:29:04] Brilliant way
[00:29:05] Appreciate that oh you doing it. That's that's how I wanted like I'm humbly mean
[00:29:10] I'll say a lot of Denver people are humbly mean like they're humble, but like don't approach me unless like
[00:29:17] Because I was like my mother yeah and I feel like a lot the narrative with dimper like creatives is is is that
[00:29:25] True for like I'm humbly mean
[00:29:28] Don't waste my time like it's all it's not as bad as New York
[00:29:32] I'll say that I have never been no, but I've dealt with some some New Yorkers that are like
[00:29:38] Yeah, if I don't know you're if I don't know your credentials or have like a CV resume on you
[00:29:43] Like we're I could verify in fact check what you want like I'm not right with you
[00:29:49] And I'm the same it's probably worse in California also too
[00:29:54] Chicago's not you know everybody help everybody
[00:29:57] And I think that's also like maybe like slightly a down south narrative, you know
[00:30:02] I'm saying not Chicago, but I think they take some of that narrative like Mississippi. Oh, yeah
[00:30:08] I'll help you with your name, Memphis. Oh, yeah, what's up? What do you do?
[00:30:12] Like and I've traveled a lot so it's like and I have a lot of collect connections everywhere and the humbleness from certain individuals
[00:30:20] So like connect and not even fucking order you about like what your what your connections are past their connection
[00:30:28] Right and just honored is always down south mentality
[00:30:32] But Denver's humbly mean where it's like I got to know you in order to like understand you and accept you
[00:30:39] And I think I have a part of that when I'm also just like humble and ready to like do whatever
[00:30:45] You know like open arms open door, but then there's the aspect where like oh and then one money's involved
[00:30:52] Then it's the crowd barrel
[00:30:53] Yeah, sure here is the crowd barrel will like oh they're doing it well
[00:30:58] The artist's economy is a struggle here struggle
[00:31:02] You know and I see what you're doing
[00:31:04] Right, there's no like I don't want to make money off my community. I want to make money with you
[00:31:10] Yes, and there's so much money here when I tell you there
[00:31:14] There is billions of dollars
[00:31:17] Trillions if they really accounted the economy though the mayor want to industry the shroom industry
[00:31:24] Us an organ trillion dollar
[00:31:26] The common and yet there should have pot holes
[00:31:29] Oh, that's greater city in our government
[00:31:32] I just have to get mad at that almost but that's a whole different concept here
[00:31:38] We put money in but where is it going?
[00:31:40] Absolutely now we got to talk about who's voting who's contributing right pushing voting because you have all these community members and leaders
[00:31:49] And they're not talking about voting their districts in
[00:31:52] They're not talking about legislation moves
[00:31:55] Like the hair act. Oh, I was heavy on that. Oh changing the metabolic
[00:31:59] whole panel for minorities against male white men from the 1920s
[00:32:06] I don't want to talk about what no, I love it
[00:32:08] But see this is another thing too. He said educational purposes and awareness is
[00:32:15] like
[00:32:16] It's not something like from for myself
[00:32:19] I need to know more within my community. I vote with like in my city
[00:32:23] I'm try to be very aware and I'm learning a lot constantly
[00:32:27] So I've gone to some like city council meetings and stuff just to like start fine tuning like what is out there
[00:32:34] But it's like
[00:32:36] For what you're doing on top of like let's create an artist economy
[00:32:40] But also this is other reasons why we need awareness as to where our votes are money and our time and our interests are going and that's what I
[00:32:49] To get back to yes
[00:32:50] I would say no
[00:32:54] But no, it does take in the cow because say you are entrepreneur in your tire pops
[00:32:59] Where's that money come from that unexpected expense?
[00:33:03] This sets you back three months
[00:33:05] Literally in that position right now, but not a tire situation
[00:33:08] But you know I get it like he's unexpected
[00:33:11] Exmancies that could have been preventable so I'm proactive instead of reactive and so on wait can you say about one more
[00:33:19] And right into that kingdom
[00:33:20] I am proactive instead of reacting
[00:33:23] I
[00:33:24] I will make like in this the quality background in me
[00:33:28] So my education is healthcare management healthcare quality
[00:33:33] And there's a lot of things from my educational background that I bring in into my personal life
[00:33:39] So there's this book called the checklist by
[00:33:43] Oh, I don't want to be
[00:33:46] prejudiced but he's
[00:33:48] Indian individual I want to say
[00:33:51] I want to say it starts with the M or B
[00:33:53] But it's the checklist mentality and narrative
[00:33:57] Leave your life by checklist
[00:33:59] If you could do it in five minutes you could do it
[00:34:02] So put it on the checklist. Okay, let's make sure that we get to that angle and be proactive to prevent
[00:34:12] Kind of static action right and so when I learned that in college I was like
[00:34:17] Oh, I gotta take this everywhere with mm-hmm like this is a crazy he had a checklist for his wife
[00:34:24] Yeah checklist for his kids
[00:34:26] his weekends and also his job and each day
[00:34:32] Checking those off and it feels like oh I'm accomplishing something like right in gold
[00:34:37] So when I started living my life like that I was like okay
[00:34:41] What around me needs to change right what am I seeing that is happening why am I seeing
[00:34:49] Diagnosis is delayed three months
[00:34:53] Why am I seeing that preventative care is not occurring in minorities
[00:34:59] At the same rate as our counterparts in our majories and
[00:35:05] When I did the research in the data for it, it was alarming and I realized that the data was from 1929
[00:35:14] From a white physician
[00:35:17] That you know wrote the book on it wrote the book on metabolic propannels
[00:35:21] And so metabolic hotels tests for diabetes heart failure all of these
[00:35:27] Diseases that are deadly that that cut your life in half
[00:35:35] Cancer's you're not checking cancer fast enough because you're not running it as the BMI
[00:35:42] Um of a black person correct to compare to our majority counterpart so
[00:35:49] I was like oh this is some really working against us
[00:35:53] And how do we how do we how do we change that how do we how do we how do we
[00:35:58] We have the health care providers with the majority of our counterparts
[00:36:03] You know
[00:36:05] How do we change that narrative how do we make sure that quality is occurring for any individual
[00:36:11] And it's not in America's not happening
[00:36:16] And in in Japan they have urinals
[00:36:20] That test
[00:36:22] You're urine are you serious
[00:36:25] Their health care system is so evolved. It's crazy. So you urinate you could that be diagnosed with test
[00:36:32] Ticcuro cancer
[00:36:34] Right there right there and be like you need to go see a doctor based off of your new urine analysis
[00:36:40] Wow, and you know
[00:36:42] Colorado very advanced in our health care. We have great facilities we have great workers
[00:36:48] But a lot of people don't understand
[00:36:50] COVID made a lot of second victims and second victims are us in health care
[00:36:55] Second victims are nurses are physicians
[00:36:59] The mistakes that are made
[00:37:01] Should not be punitive
[00:37:03] Your human human or occurs
[00:37:06] You didn't make the you're not you're not you're not the machine you're not the computer right now
[00:37:12] The computer makes the error that's a system error
[00:37:14] But your human error is much more understanding
[00:37:17] than a system error
[00:37:19] System errors. All right, we adapt we evolve let's figure out what they are
[00:37:24] Human error how do you explain that right
[00:37:29] A physician that isn't diagnosed with zxx
[00:37:31] Could comploss we have a dyslex moment correct right and and two medications could look the same
[00:37:40] That's so wild
[00:37:42] Again bringing all of this awareness and that's how I'm saying how connected you are to the community. Oh, yeah
[00:37:48] It's just really brilliant again just bringing in that knowledge just bringing in that knowledge and if
[00:37:54] Because there's one thing like for myself. I
[00:37:58] I have like a roll-a-dex of information and so sometimes I don't have or I'll get like I like to question everything multiple times multiple times
[00:38:06] And just being in a community that
[00:38:09] Advocates to maintain awareness and grow in that awareness is so important for like neuro folks like me
[00:38:16] Because that consistency is key it helps me to continue showing up
[00:38:20] You know hitting the checklist on our humanity. What are we doing for a community? What am I doing for myself?
[00:38:25] I make myself stronger for this community with this community and so that's really
[00:38:30] Just brilliant so as you're sitting here with all of this
[00:38:33] Amazing
[00:38:34] Conversation that you've given me
[00:38:37] Is there anything that we could like is there anything within Colorado that we could do as a community that could further support you or
[00:38:46] Support is there
[00:38:48] Support that we can bring in to kind of highlight and continue building awareness around is there ways we can do that?
[00:38:55] I mean awareness around I have really
[00:38:57] Developed the pathway for my health literacy
[00:39:02] portion that I have that I'm passionate about because I mean my nine to five is that right you know
[00:39:08] I think more or less supporting me as it individual okay by sovereign service
[00:39:12] Tell me if I'm a trash writer, okay. I'll figure that okay
[00:39:17] Give critique my layouts
[00:39:20] Because I think of sovereign status as an RAPs like a media multi media art piece okay
[00:39:25] That you could have in your home that could be presented on your coffee table that could be presented in a frame like I want
[00:39:33] I want people to take passion in the magazine as like oh, let me this is something that I could obtain
[00:39:40] So like self publication this is a whole nothing narrative the reason why I got into
[00:39:46] Sombra status and self publication is because of the black Panther experts
[00:39:50] That were happening my great great grandfather was a part of black Panther party here okay and
[00:39:58] My grandma she was soldier too
[00:40:02] Right we had a chapter now mind you this is the cool-clutch clan capital of the United States
[00:40:07] Colorado Springs
[00:40:09] They went through extreme challenges
[00:40:12] my grandmother still has no books
[00:40:15] Still has
[00:40:17] Passages and so as a kid she shared those with me like she had this trunk there's old as big-ass military trunk
[00:40:25] So my great my great grandfather wasn't Vietnam okay. He's a soldier and one of the first black firefighters here
[00:40:34] So my lineage
[00:40:36] Close back I would say age generations here okay we came from Virginia on a wagon
[00:40:41] So our the slave master slave master in Virginia gave my great great great great great great great great great great great great
[00:40:48] grandmother her freedom papers and
[00:40:52] Gave her horseback horse in a horseback wagon as she came here with her and her daughter
[00:40:58] She came here she wanted to settle because it was unsettled land and
[00:41:04] built the house
[00:41:06] in Parkill
[00:41:08] Bear hands
[00:41:10] He's talking ground. I know great grandpa great grandma great great great great great like seven times
[00:41:17] And so if you know the resonian and
[00:41:20] Five points okay, so you know have you been to coffee at the point? I have yeah, so literally that building that shape like a point yeah
[00:41:29] Yeah
[00:41:31] So then across the street is deep walk water okay the ex servicemen's club was there
[00:41:37] And that was my great great great uncle Benny Huper okay, so if you know there's a
[00:41:44] Residency on five point called the hooker okay and it's an apartment company
[00:41:50] And if you go in there my great great great uncles pictures in there and on deep rock waters side
[00:41:59] There's those like pasted up
[00:42:01] Pictures from like back in the day five point images. There's probably graffiti on some of them now
[00:42:07] But my great aunt and my great uncle
[00:42:10] All right one of those pictures, mm-hmm. So the ex servicemen's club was for black individuals
[00:42:17] Black servicemen okay time to that we're traveling here
[00:42:22] On the way to and from one of their bases because they there gamble
[00:42:26] Drink it was the first black hotel in Colorado
[00:42:30] Yes, so I still have hit my grandma still has his card the ex servicemen's club
[00:42:35] There's a copy of it at the hooker on well too. So if you ever drive it down well and you see the hooker
[00:42:41] I'm gonna have to go that's that's our spot so
[00:42:45] My
[00:42:46] Ex stepfather was a part of designing that hotel and
[00:42:51] Making sure that our family's name
[00:42:54] kept the legacy and that's one of the things that I could thank him for
[00:42:59] Making sure that he was invested in my mom and making sure he was vested in our lineage and and keeping that input in five points is amazing
[00:43:07] There's a couple people that were part of that organization too, you know that I would think
[00:43:12] But the resonian and that side of
[00:43:15] Well, um, it's all all them okay. I shouldn't say yes now
[00:43:19] I should say my mom and all that
[00:43:22] I don't have any ownership stake in it but um
[00:43:26] Yeah, like that's that's my lineage. That's my history my great great
[00:43:30] Third or fourth
[00:43:32] Great was the first black girl at East
[00:43:36] Went to school with Pam Greer
[00:43:38] Yeah, a lot of people don't know Pam Greer
[00:43:41] Oh, I do know Pam okay come on
[00:43:44] See brown
[00:43:45] So my lineage
[00:43:47] That's where that's where my passion comes from okay because my lineage runs super deep here
[00:43:53] They was they was all the major players and
[00:43:56] Par layers I'd like to say that it back in the day like hmm you know Billy holiday was coming to the resonian
[00:44:04] You had you had the great
[00:44:06] God James Baldwin came to the resonian like there there is
[00:44:10] So many people yeah, there's so many pictures that was like the jack it's the Harlem of the West
[00:44:17] And so I know all about that
[00:44:19] That's so wild
[00:44:21] We're gonna have to do a whole other episode about this. I know that's crazy
[00:44:27] No, that's not a side track. This is your essence
[00:44:29] No, and so
[00:44:31] Like my steas comes from like my confidence comes from is because like
[00:44:36] I
[00:44:38] Know where I'm from and and I know where I'm going and I know where we've been
[00:44:46] I know what we could do
[00:44:48] What we've been offered so like the X service misclubs and pictures of that like my grandma working in there as a kid
[00:44:54] Yeah, like giving folks like you know little
[00:44:58] What's the biggest the little chips hmm. Hey, let's use him out chips
[00:45:02] It's so wild and so speaking about your grandmother as the young person now we have to go to this
[00:45:10] Now that you've said all these beautiful things not even recognizing the honor
[00:45:14] You're giving yourself for your lineage what is something that you would say
[00:45:20] To your younger version now after this whole conversation
[00:45:25] I'll say be proud
[00:45:27] Yeah, I would say be proud of where you've come from
[00:45:31] And also don't push yourself so hard like you know like with the lini is
[00:45:37] I feel like you have to live up to an expectation right and if you don't you feel like you've let
[00:45:42] Everyone down or you or if you've let yourself down and like my mom is super accomplished my sister
[00:45:49] Is way more accomplished than me
[00:45:51] But we don't want to give I know that's what I'm saying
[00:45:55] It's starting yeah, I can't sure to yourself right
[00:45:59] Let it out don don don don don't don't
[00:46:03] Well the slow down you have plenty of time you could be Oprah you know you guys are
[00:46:08] Aquarius is to get you be in a aquarium
[00:46:13] That's why you call the millionaire my sister
[00:46:17] I get it and you all have the best sense of
[00:46:20] Like you have the best sense of humor, but it's uniquely yours. Yeah, and I thought I fucking love it. It's brilliant
[00:46:25] We're aliens
[00:46:28] Say we're aliens
[00:46:29] This is amazing so to your younger self just slow up a little bit
[00:46:33] People around be proud you have plenty of times with accomplishment everything that you want to call
[00:46:38] I know that's right so where can we?
[00:46:41] Like what is something that you are looking forward to or an event that you have coming up that we could show support or just a awareness around
[00:46:49] Where we can find you so I will be a vibes in the park. Oh, I love vibes
[00:46:56] That's my shit. Yeah, okay. I will be at the first vibes in the park. Okay, I'm distributing the harcopy other magazine
[00:47:02] Okay, and what date is that gonna be? That's gonna be the 26th the 20th month of the same
[00:47:07] 26 so okay, you want a harcopy
[00:47:10] Can I get a sign? Oh, of course. Okay, what I'm gonna come in there
[00:47:14] I need that marker calendar's all and can you tell us where vibes in the park is actually at
[00:47:19] part of that's right
[00:47:22] It's not around the lake though. No, that's so that's another park portion
[00:47:28] We are going to vibes in the park
[00:47:30] vibes in the park is kind of where the ML if you go to the street where the MLK
[00:47:36] Statue is but if you veer off towards York
[00:47:40] Yeah, it's like York in 20 seconds
[00:47:43] Your 21st so if you go in that entrance or by the tennis courts
[00:47:48] Okay, I'll definitely see you by the tennis courts. You'll see you the line of parking
[00:47:53] I use a park in the neighborhood
[00:47:56] And while yeah, it's gone. Yeah, it's gone if you're there late. It's gone
[00:48:00] But get your picnics and fits together as I like to say you know get your shark kudaries together
[00:48:06] They're in the line for a little Sunday vibe vibes and what time does that run?
[00:48:11] Okay, now you it's like I think it's like two to seven or something like that
[00:48:15] No, I want to say it's not that early of it's two to seven. We'll maybe four set four
[00:48:20] Okay, then we also have good
[00:48:22] I should not rooftop
[00:48:24] Try to hit all the spots
[00:48:28] Remember because
[00:48:31] Oh three to seven. Okay, good
[00:48:34] Okay, we can say three to seven. Yeah, okay, so we gonna get signed copies on the 26th
[00:48:40] And same was I've no shame about it
[00:48:44] So I will be there amazing and who is um are you looking for
[00:48:49] Anybody like are you even any help with that? I need writers. Okay, I need writers
[00:48:57] Out the galore. Okay, you're passionate about fashion and
[00:49:01] And you don't even have to have like
[00:49:06] History I don't need to know your CV if you like writing him me up. Okay, cuz I love doing passages
[00:49:15] I'll curate it all make sure the layouts perfect. You don't have to worry about that
[00:49:20] But if you're writer
[00:49:22] Hit me up because we want to get to a hundred pages right now
[00:49:27] 40 pages okay
[00:49:29] 42 pages and so for in that's gonna also is that gonna be the same what is online and in print okay?
[00:49:37] Perfect. Yeah, so the digital copies are more or less for like my hearing impaired individuals
[00:49:44] I love that okay, and it's a verbal
[00:49:47] audio
[00:49:48] Okay, so it'll be a voiceover of me and of course, you know hearing impaired hearing impaired capabilities
[00:49:56] And the hard copies more or less for the collectors
[00:50:00] So if you have all four if you have all four the end of this year
[00:50:04] I will be handing out a cause dog
[00:50:07] Yeah, okay
[00:50:09] That's not that's a little that's a little tidbit. Okay. I'm loving this
[00:50:14] If you could prove that you have all four copies by the end of the year
[00:50:17] I will be sending cause dolls to those individuals
[00:50:21] Okay
[00:50:25] I barely know anything about the cause doll, but it's gonna have an effect on me
[00:50:28] Yeah, I got issues you
[00:50:31] Fine
[00:50:32] It's more or less our piece, you know, yeah
[00:50:34] It is more piece. You don't have to know much about cause to know that you like your steas
[00:50:40] You know
[00:50:40] I'm gonna come through you already
[00:50:42] Because vives is definitely vives in the park is definitely one of the most
[00:50:51] Electric feelings that you'll gather all week like people look forward to like Fridays. I'm like Sundays
[00:50:56] Yeah, that's like it's everything seeing everybody in there their essence their style
[00:51:02] I just like observing the space. It's so beautiful
[00:51:05] 100% bias like when I tell you vives in the park is my favorite
[00:51:10] Oh
[00:51:12] Sick they hit the go would be
[00:51:15] I'll tell you. Oh go win they did now
[00:51:18] Okay, I'll clear Monday. Yeah, it's virtual
[00:51:21] One day's virtual for me just so everybody knows
[00:51:24] Because I'm maybe outside film probably cynical
[00:51:27] Okay, I know I don't want to go home
[00:51:29] I feel that I love and it's just a
[00:51:32] Quite honestly it's like the most beautiful representation of community that you will ever witness in this city
[00:51:38] Bottom line. That's just how I feel about it just seeing everybody but nobody it's like not like a work time
[00:51:44] You know, it's like come together. We're all here to celebrate one another and each other and ourselves
[00:51:49] So let's do it we're kicking it. We're dancing and we're enjoying
[00:51:54] Just outside
[00:51:56] Yeah, just being outside in the fresh air. Oh, I can't wait
[00:51:58] Okay, I'm not fit together
[00:52:00] We already did that pre-meditation pod milk
[00:52:05] All right, so if anybody wants to submit some writing
[00:52:09] Where can they find that or where can they reach out to you?
[00:52:11] Psalmern status LLC at gmail.com
[00:52:15] You heard it here or stop us at it on in superown perfect and they do respond come on
[00:52:21] That's I did think I get their attention here. We are okay
[00:52:26] All right, so thank you so much for tuning in yeah we got to
[00:52:31] Just share a beautiful space a little bit of neuro brain activity
[00:52:35] It was a wonderful and I got to hear so much more of your story
[00:52:38] Which is just like I'm a little bit like fan humaning and then all right now
[00:52:42] I'm sweating a little bit, but you know, that's just how it goes
[00:52:46] So thank you so much for sitting here again. I just I always like to re-eaterate that I'm not here in the purpose of like
[00:52:52] I want to encourage people and I want to do that again if the story resonates or this is positive
[00:53:00] Representation that works for you tune in if it isn't then move along
[00:53:04] We're not here to yuck anyone's young
[00:53:07] And with that being said just remember to continue creating earnestly and love we'll talk soon
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